00:17:46.520It was very heavily encouraged and pushed.
00:17:50.160I did take it before the mandate occurred because I had a lot of contact with a lot
00:17:54.740of people during the course of my work.
00:17:57.960After I took it, I started to experience like whirling issues on my lower legs, which then
00:18:05.060progress to tingling issues on my hands and feet, which then progress to by about two to three
00:18:14.040weeks in hearing damage, like I can hear background sounds like whirling and all kinds of problematic
00:18:21.620sounds in my hearing. So it's very difficult for me to concentrate on things. It's very difficult
00:18:27.740for me to focus on different things. I have stiffness in my hands. So I have issues like
00:18:34.540even in terms of like trying to comb my hair personal grooming issues um even standing like
00:18:40.920I cannot stand uh if I'm trying to talk to someone and you end up just you know well you know you end
00:18:46.740up seeing someone in your standing you have to go sit down because you have extensive pain like
00:18:51.880from the soles of the feet into the palms of the hands and stiffness in terms of doing any kind of
00:18:57.840um like um you know issues that require like your fingers and so on so forth at one point um shortly
00:19:05.600after the one vaccine that I did have I couldn't even basically get off the couch I basically was
00:19:11.500close to I I did think I as many of the other people have shared I was just didn't even know
00:19:16.980if you you could make it it was that bad um so anyway there was all big kerfuffle in terms of
00:19:22.760work because um as you shared this with people they their basic uh hope was for you to get the
00:19:28.960second vaccine at that time like it was just like it was completely blocked out what you were
00:19:33.040experiencing and the physical symptoms you were experiencing you just had kind of this wave of
00:19:38.240just push that aside and just take this even from the work site from various sources they just
00:19:43.900wanted you to take another vaccine sort of thing so so you just have this really skewed distorted
00:19:49.940sense of kind of what's going on here natalie what kind of pressure were you put under because
00:19:55.280you mentioned that you worked for a provincial government like what sort of pressure was there
00:19:59.740not just from management but from your co-workers also yeah from co-workers we had zoom meetings
00:20:05.940such as we're having right here and people would be encouraged to to share what their status was
00:20:11.380and then they had accolades like if they had the second one or you know where they were at with
00:20:16.320that it was like it was really what do you mean like you'd get a gold star or something yes that's
00:20:20.300100 absolutely 100 yeah and it did come down from like a supervisory level manager managerial level
00:20:27.500union level from many different various avenues um even from the people that you were serving
00:20:33.440they reciprocated that they wanted you to be vaccinated before you had um interaction with
00:20:39.580them as well. So it came from many different avenues. So yeah, yeah. So basically here in
00:20:46.060Canada, like I haven't gone and traveled to the United States, I'm unable to work, I did try to
00:20:52.060go back to work, I had muscle twitching, I had my hands and my feet were tingling, I had hearing
00:20:57.580issues and extreme fatigue, like you basically can't even function, the fatigue is so severe.
00:21:02.960and um so from that point on like you you then enter into like this acrimonious situation like
00:21:10.780what do you do now because you've been stable and you've been a a person that's working all these
00:21:16.080you know years and through no fault of your own then you're thrust into this position where you
00:21:21.660have to then um be in this position to uh advocate for yourself which i never i never thought i
00:21:28.560should, you know, be need to be in this position. And that's kind of where it's been. So I've been
00:21:33.840actually I counted it up before the show, I've been to 24 doctors in Canada. And I have not been
00:21:39.860to the United States, I haven't had, I don't know if it's worth financially going to the United
00:21:45.420States. But what the some of the feedback I've had from emergency doctors, neurologists, I've
00:21:51.100been to a rheumatologist, I've been to internal medical specialists, basically, they I have had
00:21:57.200a quote-unquote a vaccine would not do that those kinds of symptoms it wouldn't cause that type of
00:22:04.080a symptom you know you mean like not an experimental never before tried yeah formula
00:22:10.060yeah yeah anxiety with them yeah yeah and you know they do want you to really uh look and i've
00:22:17.500never had mental health issues i'm i'm right now i'm i am 55 years old i have no mental health
00:22:24.000history however they do want to refer you and they have referred me to three psychiatrists which
00:22:29.460i've met with and there are no mental health issues i i keep um just what kinds of questions
00:22:36.300would this i'm sorry to interrupt you what kinds of questions would a psychiatrist ask you in
00:22:41.600regards to what you're going through physically right now like something about your mother
00:22:46.080your father actually yeah this they have asked me about my family history and i was raised by a
00:22:52.760single mother but that has no implications at all and of course not temporary and the temporal
00:22:59.040connection to when i was vaccinated to when i had tingling in my hands and my feet and hearing
00:23:05.260damage is is unmistakable there's there's no question it's a hundred percent unmistakable
00:23:11.220and and like i've had how many times you've heard the expression that correlation does not equal
00:23:16.440causation yeah well right and and i'm not sitting here telling you that yeah i'm saying i'm asking
00:23:23.380how many times have you heard that because i mean like you know what a coincidence yeah
00:23:28.520far too many to count shadow and so so this is from a person that worked eight hours in a high
00:23:35.980energy job and i would be able to in recreationally i could bike two hours in the river valley and walk
00:23:43.780and hike from two to four hours and I was a very active person and I really enjoyed nature
00:23:48.940and all of that and I can't I'm unable to do those things I can't grasp a handlebar on a bike
00:23:54.740like I could I can't ride the bike I can't walk I can't stand I'm always looking for a place where
00:24:01.260I can sit down if I try to hike or if I go to a grocery store even if I go grocery shopping I'm
00:24:07.700scoping out where the next place is where I can sit down so this is the implications to my life
00:24:13.540And it's very devastating. I can't even impress upon the devastation that this has caused.
00:24:20.640Michelle, you were saying before we went on, this is the first time that all three of you have actually been together outside of regular meetings.
00:24:31.080Yeah. So Julie and I met. Incidentally, her and I both visited the same facility in Utah and we didn't know.
00:24:39.240And so I was there in August and Julie was there in October, I believe.
00:24:44.860And so we were connected through Brianne Dressen.
00:24:47.400So Brianne Dressen is a co-founder for React 19.
00:24:49.820And Julie actually has been their support group facilitator for React 19 for two years now.
00:24:55.340We didn't have an organization in Canada that mirrored what React 19 has offered.
00:25:00.580And so Julie and I got talking and CanRise 19 came to fruition.
00:25:05.080And so Julie and I have started formal support groups and our first intake was in February and we ran two days a week in February for 10 weeks.
00:25:14.420And we just started our second intake of another 10 week session.
00:25:22.080But this is the first time that the three of us have been together outside of our emotional support groups, which are confidential, you know, individuals that contribute signed confidentiality agreements.
00:25:33.940We're not here to offer medical advice, but we are here to share our stories.
00:25:38.340And, you know, we're developing a patient resource list, a provider list.
00:25:44.180And we are currently in the nonprofit registration phase where we will be building a medical care fund similar to that of REACT-19.
00:25:52.320So where Canada is missing the mark and people like myself are mortgaging their houses or selling their businesses to pay for medical care,
00:26:02.960Julie and I are hoping that we can kind of ease that burden for vaccine injured.
00:26:07.380So we're pretty close to being registered as a nonprofit.
00:26:11.080You know, we had Anita Krishna on the show last night.
00:26:14.060She's a former director with Global News in Vancouver.
00:26:16.600She was with them, I'm going to say, overall, probably about 20 years.
00:26:20.200And she was talking about the vaccine injury special series that they put together last week.
00:26:26.800And while she was saying that's great, finally, the left wing corporate media is actually willing to discuss this.
00:26:32.060You know, she said, I still brush up against the narrative, two narratives, small group of people and rare.
00:26:41.620Well, this is a rare occurrence. This doesn't happen at all.
00:26:46.960There's literature that it's I think it's Frazen is the peer reviewed paper that was published and it's referencing one in 800 people are vaccine injured.
00:26:57.580So that translates to was it 22 million people, Julie? Is that what it translates to globally? One in 800. So what they consider is rare or few. And that is, I was interviewed for that global three part series. None of my conversations with Carolyn were part of the article or whatnot.
00:27:18.340but this comment that they keep repeating on rare and few is really bothersome because they are
00:27:25.460entirely diminishing the impact that this has had on individuals and what I would speak to even more
00:27:31.780for Natalie and Julie and myself is we don't look sick we're sick so that's incredibly deceiving
00:27:39.940you can't see all neurological conditions you can't see that I can't see properly that I have
00:27:46.58040% peripheral vision loss in both my eyes that I can't feel my hands and feet anymore um I'd make
00:27:52.280a lousy hygienist right now let me tell you lousy feel your hands I feel my hands I can't see
00:27:57.700properly um you can't see immune conditions you can't see pots you know we wear these smiles on
00:28:03.120our faces because we have to choose to face every day as best we can and let me back you up for a
00:28:08.080second um pots i i'm unfamiliar with that condition it's so it's um posterior orthostatic
00:28:17.320tachycardia syndrome so essentially when you change positions from laying to sitting sitting
00:28:23.120to standing your heart rate your blood pressure your respiration doesn't register that you've
00:28:29.080changed positions and so it's a dysregulation of all autonomic regulatory systems in your body
00:28:36.620And so for Julie, for example, like Julie and I, we attended the Follow the Silence documentary in Texas together.
00:29:02.800I mean, there's digestive issues, there's heart-related issues, there's breathing, there's cardiac, anything that the vagus nerve innervates, which is the largest nerve that runs through our system, it's entirely dysregulating.
00:29:17.380And so any function that you considered seamless, these things that our bodies do on a day-to-day basis, it's entirely disruptive and it's debilitating.
00:37:11.460But I've had conversations, Shadow, like I was in the emergency room Christmas Eve and we actually had a resident here.
00:37:19.040And the one doctor that he was practicing under, they both openly talked to me about vaccine injuries, but they both openly told me that they could never say that in public.
00:37:31.000well like like dr hoff right like charles hoff's thing like i mean i forget he's been vindicated
00:37:36.300by the way which is great he came on the show a couple of months ago and we talked about that
00:37:40.340which was fantastic your your license is threatened your livelihood is threatened
00:37:44.360um and i mean i know i i'm walking away from a 20-year career and it's it's it's difficult but
00:37:52.180can you sleep at night i could never sleep at night i couldn't even say it if i didn't say it
00:37:57.200now natalie what about you you took the the one jab yeah and you were you forced were you being
00:38:04.840forced into taking another even though you had symptoms already after just the one you were still
00:38:10.460yeah no i actually what happened was it was so bad i i'll be honest with you i was i was if i
00:38:18.040had the means it was so bad i was considering suicide and like i say i have no history of this
00:38:24.140at all like zero and I knew that uh there was no way I could I actually thought I could die if I
00:38:31.360took another one so I knew that I couldn't take another one and um I just had to deal with whatever
00:38:38.380the consequences were of not taking another one and um like I was getting from our province I was
00:38:44.720getting text messages to to sign up to the second one so I was phoning into our provincial health
00:38:50.660lines reporting to them trying to find a doctor um reporting to what my symptoms were to the
00:38:56.960provincial health lines that are supposed to help you and they were texting back to me and they
00:39:01.940actually sent a letter to me to to get the second one and they were offering i think it was a hundred
00:39:07.180dollars to people to like incentives to um get groceries or something i don't know what it was
00:39:13.220but people had incentives to get it but but i knew at that point that it was so insane and fanatical
00:39:19.100like my life at that point uh at the height of this that that uh like I I feel like I've lost
00:39:25.840two or three years of my life like this has been so insane and fanatical that I my thinking isn't
00:39:32.360even in the the same like it's so bad so like I guess at that time I knew like everything in my
00:39:38.760life crumbled like my work my family relationships like everything that was solid just crumbled and
00:39:45.540Did it crumble because people didn't believe you or?
00:39:49.220Yeah, it's still like it's still even to this point, like people don't believe that that, you know, this could happen like they and it's really what really gets me at the crux is that some people still believe it was worth it.
00:40:05.880even though they are relatively aware of injuries they still believe on the pendulum that it was
00:40:13.040worth it for everybody to get vaccinated and if somebody got hurt or was paralyzed or was blinded
00:40:19.920it was still worth it if like a million people were saved from dying from covid
00:40:24.980they still what's interesting about this whole thing i'm sorry to interrupt you but what's
00:40:29.040interesting about this whole thing is is they have no way to prove a negative right how can
00:40:35.220they sit there and say this formula saved millions of lives how can you say that yeah you can't well
00:40:43.280models show what models but when all of the other science comes out they deny it and they call it
00:40:50.660crazy and they call it conspiratorial julie you took three of these yeah did you believe at the
00:40:57.140time that they were actually helping or was that pressure no julie it's okay you know what
00:41:05.040there's we're not judging here because you guys are speaking out and that's something that we
00:41:08.800absolutely appreciate and encourage yeah so for me i thought that i was protecting people that
00:41:19.700i cared about and whom i thought at the time cared about me um i have since learned in some cases
00:41:29.000that was not necessarily the truth um and so in my case after i reacted to the second dose
00:41:38.880i was told that i needed to take a third dose in order to be able to
00:41:47.720see people that i cared about who told you that
00:41:53.080um an individual that i was friends with and their family so they were putting conditions
00:42:00.180on your friendship at that point they were saying well you have to take the third shot
00:42:03.200you're not going to be able to come over for christmas or whatever yeah and so for me i wanted
00:42:11.620to have my life go back to normal and i wanted to graduate with my peers those were the two things
00:42:20.860that i wanted most when covid was over and so i thought that continuing to take the vaccines would
00:42:32.700allow me to return to that normal life and unfortunately that's not what happens
00:42:41.980and my life will never be the same again i'm so sorry i'm so sorry that you were deceived that way
00:42:50.860by society, by government, by medical professionals, by media.
00:43:01.320Just, it makes me sad that this has happened.
00:43:05.940And yet you've managed now to not only continue on with this new life of yours,
00:43:12.860but you're working towards helping others as well with your group, CanRise19.
00:43:17.540I think that's absolutely incredible and commendable.
00:43:20.860No, thank you for that. I definitely appreciate it. And I mean, I definitely I try to focus on the good things that came out of this. And, you know, meeting Michelle, who has turned into one of my best friends and meeting the people from React 19 who have truly become a family to me in all of this.
00:43:46.140and that's what I told my doctor from Utah when we had a conversation about how my life was never
00:43:55.140going to be the same that's how I flipped it I said you're absolutely right my life is never
00:43:59.080going to be the same because now I may have lost a couple people that I thought were my friends but
00:44:05.640I've gained so many more that are truly my friends and I can pick up the phone and I can
00:44:14.680text or I can call them or I can jump on a plane at any point in time. And those are the people
00:44:21.560that are going to be there for me no matter what. Isn't that amazing? You know, we've all been down
00:44:27.420that same kind of journey. It doesn't necessarily have to do with vaccine injury. You know, I've
00:44:33.540lost people along the way these past five years, but I've gained so much more in my life. And as
00:44:40.000you're right, you know, Julie, when you said, I thought were my friends, people I thought were
00:44:43.880my friends they're they never were if they were going to turn their back on you based upon
00:44:48.340some experimental formula conditions right you know um natalie what's your situation like now
00:44:57.620with visp visp uh well just let me i i didn't say i'm sorry yeah you're you know what you got
00:45:03.980to finish what you were talking about before yeah i'll let you know the vis i i was finally
00:45:09.600there was a doctor that did an MRI here in Canada, and I had been diagnosed with 21
00:45:17.220lesions of my brain, and it was caused by microclotting in my brain, and the doctor has
00:45:26.800said that there could be other organs that have been affected by microclotting as well.
00:45:31.460Was that probably the spike protein crossing the blood-brain barrier?
00:45:35.340well i don't think anybody wants to expound on it from my what i they just tell you that but they
00:45:43.060don't really make any connections it's just kind of in isolation so they they did tell me that that
00:45:48.360came up on the mri right um so the the visp um so what happened was i i would like to say that
00:45:55.240in the process of even coming to the um beginning stages of this you would have to have a medical
00:46:03.900professional that's open to even um like listening or being aware or wanting to to kind of go into
00:46:13.360this with you and that's not an easy um situation here in Canada is my opinion because I don't
00:46:21.140believe that there's hardly any that that would um that's my opinion but um I did find someone
00:46:29.040that would that was interested and did want to um and the other piece to this in canada and it's
00:46:36.000not it's not about the money or whatever but all of the reports or anything that you want to have
00:46:41.500when you want to advocate or explain the situation you if you have a medical doctor you're going to
00:46:49.640be paying out of pocket so you're already not able to work and then second to that is that you're
00:46:55.740going to be paying out of pocket to any of the medical professionals for any of the reports that
00:47:00.520they will be writing on your behalf how much do these reports cost uh somewhere it's a in my
00:47:07.780experience it was because the the person i found is a beautiful person she's a lovely individual
00:47:13.040she reduced her um what would necessarily be the fee because she has a heart and she's an
00:47:20.560empathic individual but hers was 60 and it could be up to 200 but it might i don't know might be
00:47:27.340more but that's what my experience was up to so it would be up to 200 for a report so if put that
00:47:33.960into play of you losing your job you've lost your health care your blue cross benefits all of those
00:47:40.700kinds of things that you're having to pay that out of pocket for in canada plus paying for advocacy
00:47:46.260for any medical reports that you are required for the VIS program or anything else so let's just put
00:47:54.020that into the backdrop of the whole discussion as well so in my experience what had happened was I
00:48:00.580was very fortunate and blessed that I did find somebody that was willing to write a the the
00:48:07.620other piece the doctor the doctor piece I wrote my piece of the report she wrote her piece and I
00:48:13.840submitted this in June 6th of 2024 to the federal government and I received a response from them
00:48:24.220and they responded back to me thank you very much for submitting your application
00:48:29.520to the VIS program we've received the application once a case manager has been assigned they'll
00:48:36.140review the eligibility of your claim for your reference here's a link for frequently asked
00:48:41.860questions uh we're currently processing a high volume of claims but once your application has
00:48:48.500been assigned a case manager will contact you we appreciate your patience so that was the
00:48:54.340email i received june 6th so i i submitted it june 6 2024 so this is over a year now
00:49:00.100yeah so from that point on i haven't heard back from them you know one good thing this global
00:49:08.320series exposed was that this vis program is a joke and the people who were working there were
00:49:14.620talking about drinking days and ping pong tournaments and you know nobody gets called
00:49:19.760back they send out form emails and it they're hoping for people to go away they make it as
00:49:27.420difficult as possible so you stop applying and you stop contributing where are you at with this
00:49:32.780michelle uh so i had my claim submitted and the same as natalie i was very fortunate i have a
00:49:39.460physician private physician in alberta who um i realized when the first doctor i saw here asked
00:49:45.820if i was in menopause as a result of my neurological symptoms i was in trouble in british
00:49:50.080clumbia so i was very grateful that a friend connected me with a physician in alberta and he
00:49:55.620signed my claim form in April of 2023. And by the time my claim was going through the medical panel
00:50:03.240review, so there's five to six stages of the program. And so we had reached the medical
00:50:08.680panel review and they had over 5,000 documents that they had to redact beforehand. And this is
00:50:14.700from similar to Natalie, a substantial amount of rejection letters and whatnot. I was rejected
00:50:22.000in October of 2024. So 18 months rejected, four case managers. So you're trying to reiterate
00:50:28.160yourself and your story. I had two exceptional case managers at the very end. And my second
00:50:33.340last case manager actually allowed me to write a letter that she was going to read on my behalf
00:50:38.880to the medical panel. Whether that happened, I don't know. So I was rejected in October of 2024
00:50:45.320and two of the three medical panel experts, which I really had asked Carolyn this,
00:50:51.060how did they vet these medical panel experts? Because the same three they had were the same
00:50:56.240three I had and my three confirmed vaccine injury, causal, temporal. Their two, three medical panel,
00:51:04.040two of three said that there was a clear temporal relationship, but they didn't feel like my
00:51:08.880conditions were from the vaccine. Are these people, these case managers, are they medical
00:51:13.320professionals or just? No, they're not. Who are they? Do we know? I mean, from the sounds of the
00:51:19.200global um news uh expose they're not high qualified um do they understand the the literature
00:51:27.300the terminology um do they even think that we're human it sounds like not you know they see our
00:51:34.100names and they don't they don't see us they don't put a face to our cases um and they don't understand
00:51:41.300the the emotion and the and the devastation behind our experiences they just don't let me ask you
00:51:47.940speaking about understanding the experiences when you spoke with carolyn from global did she seem
00:51:53.780empathetic to you she did she did she was very determined to uncover the vis program so i am
00:52:01.640very appreciative of that see the reason i asked that is because i mean these guys sat on this
00:52:06.340story for for four years they did nothing that's my concern remember our our conversation last time
00:52:12.980i said have you reached out to the media you said yes they they hung up on you they never got back
00:52:17.380to you and i've had every single global news ctv cbc vancouver sun you name it i got a hold of
00:52:26.580everybody in 2023 nobody would talk to me except cjdc tv news in fort st john and they and i said
00:52:35.180to them i'm not talking to you if you're not going to talk about vaccine injury because that's what
00:52:38.240this is about and she nailed it there's a small local news broadcaster here outside of that so
00:52:44.660you're right. Like, do I appreciate that they're talking about it? Of course I do.
00:52:48.520Should they have actually listened to us four years ago? Absolutely. And Julie is fully,
00:52:53.180fully aware. I mean, Brianne, close friend of ours, she was in the AstraZeneca clinical trial.
00:53:00.420There were like vital thing was a clinical trial. Well, there were vital safety signals shadow
00:53:07.200that were very obvious with all four vaccine manufacturers in the spring of 2021. These
00:53:13.500participants were reporting it to Peter Marks, FDA, CDC, they knew that they were causing severe
00:53:20.520neurological conditions. They did not report that to the public. We did not have informed consent.
00:53:26.780There was no informed consent. We did not have bodily autonomy with these mandates.
00:53:30.820So we fast forward to Canada at the tail end of 2021, and Trudeau decides that he's going to push
00:53:38.220even farther for these vaccine mandates when all along there were significant information,
00:53:45.220clinical trial data withheld from the public. So yes, global news, CBC, CTV, they should have
00:53:53.180been covering this four years ago. They should have been curious. I mean, this is what Anita
00:53:57.860and I talked about last night. Generally speaking, like she spent years in newsrooms, so did I.
00:54:02.920And that's generally the mood in any newsroom. It's curiosity. How did that happen?
00:54:08.220you're telling me what and but in this case oh no no they could not see it you can't say anything
00:54:14.940so i'm in the appeals process now um so october i had a um someone that was overseeing my case
00:54:22.700and i finally got an appeals case manager uh it took six months to get an appeals case manager
00:54:29.180so i'm in the appeals process they just emailed me now i need to update my providers and go through
00:54:34.940the exact same thing that natalie was talking about um just the hours that i have spent
00:54:41.800submitting documents i you can't submit them yourself i wasn't i wasn't allowed to so i
00:54:47.760couldn't submit anything myself i have all my medical records i have binders and binders like
00:54:52.700i'm talking foreign binders of research peer-reviewed papers all my medical records it's
00:54:57.560disgusting when i look at how skinny my medical chart was before this why don't they allow you
00:55:02.440do it yourself? They want it to come from the doctor's office. So I have to fill out a provider
00:55:06.940list. I have to update my new providers. I send it to them. They send that to the respective
00:55:11.220provider. The provider then has to submit the forms to your case manager. So imagine for Julie
00:55:17.220and I having to get that done with the US, like the amount of effort. And so when you say it's
00:55:23.940a broken system, it's not timely, it's not effective. Well, wait a minute, wait a minute,
00:55:28.240hold on when you say broken system i say interesting because do any of you get the
00:55:32.800feeling that maybe just maybe this system was set up to fail yes but i just hope i have hope for
00:55:41.200humanity i mean i know so do i but i mean you're not wrong i don't disagree with what you said i
00:55:47.240don't i don't i mean with that with the they're talking 50.6 million dollars xero received 16
00:55:53.960million was received by vaccine injured. The rest are administration. So I just ran the statistics.
00:55:58.700So I think you said nine people. Just give me one second. I ran the stats. And so based on their
00:56:04.120article, it says VISP has approved 219 cases. And as of their article, they've received 3,073 claims.
00:56:14.680I ran the math. It's a 92.9% rejection rate. 92.9% rejection rate with that program.
00:56:27.300And you know what's interesting about that is like, how many claims did you say?
00:56:30.940It was 3,000 approved 219 cases, 3,073 claims to date, 1,700 applicants still waiting for their
00:56:42.940cases to be reviewed and decided upon which probably includes my appeals case as well and
00:56:48.540how many people i wonder just heard about this and go i'm not even going to bother with this
00:56:53.540maybe their injuries until it was too late yeah that's true in time julia have you been through
00:57:00.300the same kind of thing share your story um yeah so mine is a little bit different um ultimately i
00:57:10.780was rejected as well. However, it was for a different reason. So in Canada, you have up to
00:57:21.440three years from the date of the vaccine to file for the vaccine injury support program. And so
00:57:31.100in my case, I put it off as long as I could, because I got better the first time in four
00:57:38.840months. And so I had hoped that I was going to get better again. And I didn't realize until I
00:57:49.440talked to my Utah doctor after they had ran all of the medical testing and I had my follow-up
00:57:59.260appointment. And the follow up appointment was on December 11th of 2024. And so at this point,
00:58:09.400I had 10 days to get an application in. And so as I mentioned before, during that appointment with
00:58:18.040my Utah doctor, he told me point blank that my life was never going to be the same as before I
00:58:24.160took the vaccines. And like I said, of course, I told him like, yeah, you're right, because I have
00:58:28.940some pretty cool friends now that I didn't have before. And then I talked to one of those friends
00:58:35.860and that friend made it very clear to me that the reason that he was telling me that was that I
00:58:47.000needed to know that I qualified for compensation and I needed to get on that because they both
00:58:53.720knew that I only had 10 more days to get an application in. So after I had that conversation
00:59:01.660with both of them, and I realized that they were right, and I wasn't going to get better this time,
00:59:11.520I'm not going to get better. These conditions are permanent. And the definition of the vaccine
00:59:18.720Injury Support Program is that your condition has to be permanent. It has to be severe and your
00:59:26.240injury has to be life-altering or resulted in death. So once I knew that I met those three
00:59:35.220criteria, I filled out the rest of the application form and I overnight shipped it. And when I got
00:59:46.680a response back in february of this year so 2025 i was told that the reason they are rejecting my
00:59:58.400application is that it should have been based off of the date of my second dose so they are trying
01:00:06.860to claim that i am past the three-year deadline um they're they're bullshitting you julie they're
01:00:15.280doing everything they they're lying they're using yeah so they are trying to say that my application
01:00:22.980did not get there within three years i have proof that it did um because i knew that we were probably
01:00:29.460going to have an issue with it being so close and so not only did i overnight ship it but i shipped
01:00:35.420it with proof of signature required and so i have a signature from their staff that says that they
01:00:43.160received my application on December 20th, 2021. And so based off of the date of December 21st,
01:00:52.300which is when I received the third dose, I am within that three-year window. And so I have
01:00:59.340written a letter explaining that and appealing because the only reason that we included the date
01:01:05.320of my second dose in the application is because that that demonstrates a cause and effect in my
01:01:11.360case because i reacted the same way twice not just once and so because i reacted the same way twice
01:01:19.040we chose to include the date of my second dose to demonstrate that cause and effect
01:01:24.400however the vaccine injury support program is trying to use that against me
01:01:32.080tell us about can rise 19 please which one of you guys wants to talk about that go for it julie
01:01:37.280Yeah, absolutely. So CanRex19 is the Canadian affiliate of React 19. And so what we are doing is we are providing physical, emotional, and in the future, we hope to be providing financial support to Canadians who were injured by the COVID-19 vaccines.
01:02:06.020And so, as we kind of touched on earlier, we have launched with our support groups.
01:02:14.660So, we are offering weekly support group meetings for individuals who are impacted by the vaccines.
01:02:22.960But in the long run, we really hope to mirror React 19 in the States, here in Canada.
01:02:32.940i'm sorry to interrupt you are you getting a lot of assistance from the react 19 people
01:02:36.280significant absolutely they have been a huge support
01:02:42.020they've been absolutely exceptional exceptional yeah and so for me react 19 was the first
01:02:51.740time that i realized i wasn't alone and that i wasn't the only person out there like me so i was
01:03:02.280able to participate in their pilot emotional support group, which is how I met these friends
01:03:08.240that I talk about. And so through that group, I met an amazing group of individuals that I
01:03:17.220call my best friends, period. Like they're not just my injured best friends anymore.
01:03:21.620They are my best friends, period. And through that, I was able to become their support group
01:03:30.220coordinator and then like michelle said when her and i connected in late 2024 um we expressed to
01:03:38.120them like hey we want to do something in canada and they were super supportive of that so are you
01:03:45.640getting a lot of traction is there yeah absolutely things are really starting to pick up and it was
01:03:53.640and we're really it was important for us to shadow like for it to come from a scientific
01:03:58.940evidence-based perspective. So it's peer-reviewed literature. We aren't, Julie and I are and will
01:04:05.640be working towards our own peer-reviewed paper. Right now we're not doing that, but it is like
01:04:11.400sourced and, you know, reacting, we lean heavily on. The other important thing for CanRise 19 is
01:04:17.540CVIA. So that's COVID Vaccine Injury Alliance is a global organization and Canada or CanRise 19 is
01:04:25.120a Canadian partner in that organization. And so I've sat on calls with UK, Germany, Japan,
01:04:32.360Argentina, Australia, and all of us are, you know, this is happening globally. And we're sharing our
01:04:38.440experiences, we're sharing literature. Julie and I in Texas, we went down for the follow the silence
01:04:44.580documentary. And we contributed to a new study. So we had blood draws and that went to Germany.
01:04:50.300And so we're now getting results back. So we are actually contributing to science, unbiased science. And so we're looking at antibodies, we're looking at immune response, we're looking at immune profiles, we're trying to figure out a true solution. And Julie and I know that there are solutions in the US. Canadians needed earlier intervention, it doesn't mean it's impossible, but we need research.
01:05:13.520and so it was really important that can rise 19 was based in research um but react 19 has been
01:05:19.320absolutely extraordinary so yeah we have nothing but absolute praise for how they've helped us
01:05:24.640i'm hoping that more and more that anyone else was out there shadow i mean i've had a handful
01:05:29.140of conversations with people but until i met brie which just happened to be i was seeing
01:05:34.500i think i saw the same immunologist as her um i i was alone and it was really hard like
01:05:43.460I've been ostracized and when you talk about who's left like there's not a lot of people left
01:05:48.540and that's really difficult when you are like immersed in the community like I was
01:05:53.100the friends I have are extraordinary and I'm so grateful for who's here and who's come but I
01:06:00.020didn't I didn't have anyone and I thought I was alone and when I met Julie I was like oh my gosh
01:06:05.480I'm not alone in Canada and I messaged Brie and I was like do we have this type of organization
01:06:10.800in Canada, where we can offer a medical care fund and whatnot. And so our website's launched
01:06:16.700canrise19.com. There's a donate button. There's a clear disclaimer that says that we are not a
01:06:22.900nonprofit organization right now. You're welcome to donate if you'd like to. We will be hopefully
01:06:28.200registered as a nonprofit by mid-August. At that time, you can get tax receipts and 100% of the
01:06:34.240money goes to the injured. Julie and I are volunteers. We have another volunteer. We are
01:06:38.860accepting volunteers we do not get paid this is our time and we're happy to do it i'm happy to
01:06:45.440have all three of you on tonight and i know that there's a few more who would like to come on and
01:06:50.180tell their stories and i'm happy to have them on we can do a part two of this next week if if you
01:06:55.420like um i'm just wanting to get this news out to people in the hope that you know there are people
01:07:02.140out there who are just like you were michelle and julie and natalie months ago or a couple of years
01:07:09.120ago where you thought you were alone and you didn't have anybody that you could talk to you
01:07:12.800could lean on and i'm sure there are people all across the country who were waiting for something
01:07:18.200like this or didn't know something like this existed so that's part of what i'm supposed to
01:07:22.760be doing is getting the word out for you and i'm happy to do that thank you guys for for joining
01:07:27.040the show tonight canrise19.com am i correct in saying that that's right okay thank you guys
01:07:33.980for coming on tonight it's been a pleasure and we'll uh we'll see you again thanks shadow
01:07:38.020thank you thank you thank you natalie we'll talk to you again we're coming back in 30 seconds guys
01:11:18.560Here he is again, last week at the Calgary Stampede.
01:11:21.640We will put Canada first in everything that we do, and that includes immigration.
01:11:26.540Look, we're a welcoming country, but the latest news that the Liberals allowed 17,500 foreign criminals to enter our country by sponging their prior criminal records is just the latest example in the radical liberal failed experiment with open borders.
01:11:46.160And Mark Carney refuses to deport any of these individuals, nor has he changed any of the radical immigration targets that Justin Trudeau left behind.
01:11:59.600Our house, our housing, our health care, our jobs are overwhelmed, our young people are cast aside while low-paid, temporary foreign workers take their jobs.
01:12:09.700We must end the abuse in the temporary foreign worker program, the international student program, the refugee system, and we must restore an immigration system that puts our country and its people first.
01:12:26.380We reject the radical century initiative, which liberals have endorsed, saying that they want to bring our population to 100 million people over this century.
01:12:36.660Look, we don't blame people for wanting to come here.
01:12:40.560Almost all of us trace our lineage back to immigrants, other than our first peoples.
01:12:45.060But that immigration must be controlled.
01:12:47.760It must be in numbers that we can absorb.
01:12:49.980It must be the right people at the right pace that will allow us to succeed as Canadians
01:12:55.340and integrate and be one united country.
01:12:57.760see it sounds like he's trying to get rid of the multicultural
01:13:07.980best facets of canada as mark carney says canada is not a melting pot uh it's a mosaic
01:13:16.740so that means you get black here and you get yellow there and you get red here and you get
01:13:24.320brown there and pink there none of them really ever get together they're just allowed to live
01:13:31.960in their own little silos speak their own languages
01:13:38.820exercise their own cultures which is absolutely fine as long as they do it at home
01:13:44.980because some of these cultures involve big knives
01:13:50.960very very big knives dangerous knives and some of these cultures also involve some
01:13:59.400pretty horrible behavior we've heard stories about that here's a random dude with more on
01:14:08.580the 80 sorry 817,000 immigrants story your country going through an economic crisis a housing crisis
01:14:16.320a drug crisis a crime crisis and so much more and your government decides let's take in 817,000 new
01:14:24.000immigrants in the first four months of the year that is 2.4 million new immigrants if it stays at
01:14:30.360that pace over the span of the entire year while the country is already overpopulated for what we
01:14:36.080can actually handle, while people can't afford food, they can't afford to live, they can't buy
01:14:41.000a home, and all of these different issues, in the midst of all of that, the government says,
01:14:45.820let's take in all of these new people. Surely that'll be the solution. It's not like every
01:14:50.440single person in this country is already complaining about the immigration crisis,
01:14:54.260about how many immigrants are in the country. Let's take in even more. And you can't say
01:14:58.680anything about it because if you do, of course, you're racist and you're bigoted and all of these
01:15:02.040things of course they know exactly what they're doing they're replacing every single person of
01:15:07.260this country they know what they're doing they're happy to do it they'll do it with a smile and they
01:15:11.800know that this benefits the government this benefits corporations this benefits every single
01:15:16.680person but the actual average population that's who it doesn't benefit and that's what they're
01:15:21.920trying to do they're actively trying to ruin the lives of the native population of this country
01:15:26.860and they're expecting to do it without anybody saying anything because they're too afraid to
01:15:31.140this is ridiculous and if people don't speak about it more this country will be lost as if
01:15:35.980it's not already but it will be further lost it will be lost to a point that people cannot even
01:15:40.560comprehend let me ask you a question i want you guys to write this down in the comments
01:15:45.380i do look at the comments you know some of you think i don't but i do
01:18:17.100This came out just a little over a day ago.
01:18:21.100Joint memo from the U.S. Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
01:18:25.300This is the thing that everybody is up in arms about today.
01:18:28.600As part of our commitment to transparency, the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation have conducted an exhaustive review of investigative holdings relating to Jeffrey Epstein.
01:18:41.480To ensure the review was thorough, the FBI conducted digital searches of its databases, hard drives, network drives, as well as physical searches of squad areas, locked cabinets, desks, closets, and other areas where responsive material may have been stored.
01:18:57.200These searches uncovered a significant amount of material, including more than 300 gigabytes of data and physical evidence.
01:19:04.420the files relating to epstein include a large volume of images of epstein images and videos
01:19:10.280of victims who are either minors or appear to be minors and over 10 000 downloaded videos
01:19:16.300and images of illegal child sex abuse material and other pornography teams of agents analysis
01:19:23.560analysts attorneys and privacy and civil liberties experts comb through the digital
01:19:28.580and documentary evidence with the aim of providing as much information as possible to the public while
01:19:33.920simultaneously protecting victims. Much of the material is subject to court-ordered sealing.
01:19:39.820Only a fraction of this material would have been aired publicly had Epstein gone to trial,
01:19:44.920as the seal served only to protect victims and did not expose any additional third parties to
01:19:50.600allegations of illegal wrongdoing. Through this review, we found no basis to revisit the disclosure
01:19:56.500of those materials and will not permit the release of child pornography. The systematic
01:20:02.840review revealed no incriminating client list.
01:20:10.620There was also no credible evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals
01:20:15.340as part of his actions. We did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation
01:20:20.520against uncharged third parties. Consistent with prior disclosures, this review confirmed
01:20:28.880that Epstein harmed over 1,000 victims, each suffered unique trauma. Sensitive information
01:20:37.340relating to these victims is intertwined throughout the materials. This includes specific
01:20:41.660details, such as names, victim names, and likenesses, physical descriptions, places of
01:20:46.880birth, associates, and employment history. One of our highest priorities is combating child
01:20:52.400exploitation and bringing justice to victims. Perpetuating unfounded theories about Epstein
01:20:57.260serves neither of those ends. To that end, while we have labored to provide the public with maximum
01:21:03.480information regarding Epstein and ensured examination of any evidence in the government's
01:21:08.360possession, it is the determination of the Department of Justice and the FBI that no
01:21:14.540further disclosure would be appropriate or warranted. After a thorough investigation,
01:21:21.080FBI investigators concluded that Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide in his cell
01:21:25.460at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York, August 10, 2019.
01:21:31.980This conclusion is consistent with previous findings, including the August 19, 2019 autopsy
01:21:38.080finding in the New York City Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, the November 2019 position of
01:21:44.180the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York, in connection with the
01:21:48.500investigation of federal correctional officers responsible for guarding Epstein, and the June
01:21:53.8402023 conclusion of the DOJ's office of the inspector general. Hang on, I've got some
01:22:01.300video I want to throw up right after this. The conclusion that Epstein died by suicide is
01:22:08.920further supported by video footage from the common area of the special housing unit, which is
01:22:13.760missing a minute, where Epstein was housed at the time of his death. As DOJ's inspector general
01:22:22.760explained in 2023 anyone entering or attempting to enter the tier where epstein cell was located
01:22:28.000from the shu common area would have been captured by this footage except for that missing minute
01:22:32.720the fbi's independent review of this footage confirmed that from the time epstein was locked
01:22:39.140in his cell around 10 40 p.m august 9th 2019 until around 6 30 a.m the next morning nobody
01:27:39.220So the only other explanation that I can think of, again,
01:27:41.180maybe you've got another, is that Intel services
01:27:43.460are at the very center of this story us and israeli and they're being protected i think
01:27:50.320that seems like that's the most obvious i have a history of this there have been multiple
01:27:54.220documented cases of pedophilia inside of the cia perpetrated by cia officers documented that in
01:28:01.060many of those i believe over a dozen cases this was a buzzfeed news piece years back where the
01:28:05.720cia specifically did not want to prosecute those individuals in federal court for fear that they
01:28:10.720would reveal sources and methods if they were pulled into open court and they basically just
01:28:15.420made it go away the only time they actually prosecuted somebody um for child pornography
01:28:19.960was whenever he's already being prosecuted for mishandling classified information well when
01:28:25.360they want to crush you they put kiddie porn on your computers why don't have a computer
01:28:28.360don't own one if you're an important person you should be careful no computer in my house this
01:28:33.320is an important thing though is that we already have documented cases of them covering this up
01:28:39.060I believe the CIA inspector general, I forget the exact quote, but he said something along the lines of you wouldn't even believe the amount of child porn, you know, that I've seen while I'm on this job.
01:28:50.340OK, so Tucker Carlson and his name is Sager and Jetty, Sager and Jetty used to be on a show called Rising.
01:28:58.040They both believe that the DOJ and the FBI, Trump, the White House, they're all covering it up.
01:32:37.180Because Alex Jones is running cover for the DOJ, for the FBI.
01:32:43.440and for donald trump and by the way there's some bad language in this 90 second clip
01:32:48.620how fucking stupid our mega i just heard alex jones right now alex jones a man i used to
01:32:55.880respect since i was 14 years old and recently actually not that recently for a few years i
01:33:02.400was questioning his authenticity but today he just lost me forever and i'm gonna call
01:33:07.980alex jones as a lying cock sucking piece of shit right now he literally just made a video where
01:33:14.800they are now saying this is the new mega coping mechanism that trump is not releasing the epstein
01:33:23.340files because he's using it to control the deep state and reverse blackmail them totally totally
01:33:34.240That's why he's Israel's bitch completely and doing everything that they want because he's secretly now blackmailing the deep state with the Epstein files.
01:33:45.340That's going to be the new Trump narrative for them to trust the plan that Trump is now playing 75 D chess with the Mossad and Trump all by himself is really pulling the strings against the Mossad and everybody else.
01:34:02.980Alex Jones, you're so fucking full of shit, and I'm sorry that I ever went on your show
01:34:09.300and gave you, everybody, the appearance of your legitimacy.