The Shadoe Davis Show - July 9th⧸2024- Attorney Catherine Christensen, Trudeau at NATO, more embarrassment for Biden

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00:04:30.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to Shadow at Night.

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00:04:59.820 there there i am welcome to shadow at night tuesday july the 9th 2024 and on the show tonight

00:05:07.100 attorney katherine christensen who is with valor law in edmonton she is the woman she is the turn

00:05:13.660 the attorney behind suing the canadian armed forces and the federal government of canada

00:05:19.820 regarding those unlawful maybe covid 19 vaccine requirements for military members it's a big

00:05:32.200 lawsuit with over 300 plaintiffs and it's worth millions and millions of dollars and it's been

00:05:39.860 ongoing for quite some time now so we're going to get to the bottom of that with katherine

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00:08:54.400 threw it up as the lead story last night i'm throwing it up again and the reason for that

00:08:57.720 is because i'm going to ask katherine about it we heard last week that dr charles hopp has partially

00:09:03.640 defeated the british columbia royal college of physicians and surgeons on judicial notice which

00:09:09.720 is something that the courts have been taking in regards to the efficacy and safety of these

00:09:14.440 covet 19 vaccines for the last couple of years now so they did do some partial retraction of the

00:09:23.160 judicial notice here however as you can see from this story which you can find on children's

00:09:29.240 health defense.ca this is not a court of law this is a disciplinary proceeding through the college

00:09:36.200 of physicians and surgeons so let's bring catherine on right now hello catherine thank

00:09:40.120 you for coming on tonight really appreciate your time um before we get to what you're doing

00:09:47.080 i i wanted to put this on first because i was likely to forget if i if i didn't put it on first

00:09:52.760 what is your take on this uh lifting a partial lifting anyway of the judicial notice in this

00:09:57.240 disciplinary hearing dealing with this because judicial notice is something that should not be

00:10:06.920 used lightly and i was really struggling with our court saying well we're going to take judicial

00:10:13.240 notice because the government said it was true no no that's not what judicial notice is about

00:10:20.680 judicial notice is an undisputed fact such as the sky is blue today right right and

00:10:27.240 for them to say, oh, it's safe and effective because Health Canada says so.

00:10:31.660 Nope.

00:10:32.400 And this tribunal has just said exactly that.

00:10:36.120 You have the Health Canada or the College of Physicians is going to have to prove that it was safe and effective.

00:10:44.780 Well, I would like to see it go further into an actual court because then it would set precedent in the legal world.

00:10:50.060 But it's also very useful for me because I'm dealing with an administrative law angle by dealing with military.

00:11:00.260 So if I've got a whole bunch of grievances sitting on the chief defense staff desk, and if they don't accept the military external review committee's findings,

00:11:13.220 that there was a breach of the charter rights which makes it an unlawful mandate an unlawful

00:11:18.900 order um i can carry this well you can't take judicial notice of safe and effective anymore

00:11:25.000 so do you do you actually think that this will translate into court cases like your own

00:11:30.520 i'm certainly going to use it yes well you're going to try to use it i mean the judge has got

00:11:36.000 to say right and so uh if i i probably would be easier for me to use in what's called a judicial

00:11:42.160 review right so when there's a tribunal decision and you don't agree with it you could ask the

00:11:47.920 court to review that decision and that's where i think it can be made into law is there any

00:11:54.320 mechanism i've asked other lawyers this question and i've gotten this blank stare so i'll ask you

00:12:00.560 when a court when a judge decides he or she is going to take judicial notice and again as you

00:12:05.200 pointed out the grass is green the sky is blue it's just acknowledged as fact and in this case

00:12:09.840 they're acknowledging the fact that the covet 19 vaccines were safe and effective according to

00:12:15.280 health canada and that's good enough for them is there a way once that is implemented in the case

00:12:20.960 to have that looked at and overturned or do you have to start a whole new trial for that

00:12:26.640 i i would suspect you could probably challenge it on appeal here's the problem the decisions

00:12:32.880 that we've had that have now gone up to the appeal courts have been about mootness there's never

00:12:38.800 actually been a case carried forward based on the merits of the case right so we're still in the

00:12:46.340 early early stages of legal action regarding covid mandates and the whole thing uh we're still really

00:12:53.900 new at it we're new at it here so i can see it coming so catherine i mean if they decide because

00:13:00.400 there's this and there's something i talked about the other night and last night on the show as well

00:13:04.000 there's this summit there's a bird flu summit coming up in washington in early october and it

00:13:10.520 sounds strangely like event 201 because that was held in new york city in october of 2019 and then

00:13:16.800 poof six months later we had a worldwide pandemic declared so you know i i don't mean to alarm

00:13:21.420 anybody when i say that and some people out there watching this right now are going to say shadow

00:13:25.320 you're absolutely crazy but i mean the fact that they're even taking the time to have a seminar

00:13:32.940 like this, and it's a three or four day gathering. It's no small thing. And a lot of experts are 0.91

00:13:38.440 going to be talking at this gathering. So let's just say that the bird flu, the avion flu, H5N2,

00:13:44.720 or whatever new concoction they come up with, actually does become a pandemic, a worldwide

00:13:50.800 declared pandemic again, because of all of the mootness rulings we've had in Canada.

00:13:56.680 And that means that they haven't rescinded any of these regulations. Am I correct in saying that,

00:14:01.880 or any of these laws or any of these mandates.

00:14:04.060 They've just kind of gone away for now.

00:14:06.980 Right, so they've put them on hold.

00:14:09.080 The difference being the Canadian Armed Forces still have a mandate in place.

00:14:14.040 Right, so we're going to get to your...

00:14:16.160 We'll get to your, because your case is very fascinating

00:14:19.320 and I've been wanting to have you on for a while

00:14:20.960 and it was such a pleasure to meet you in Boziger a couple of weekends ago.

00:14:23.900 But these mandates that were just kind of placed on hold,

00:14:28.200 Does this mean that they can bring them back at any time they want to based upon the fact that the courts have not had a ruling?

00:14:34.840 And is that possibly why the Crown is fighting so hard in these cases?

00:14:39.200 I think so. Yeah. And they can bring it back really fast.

00:14:42.680 The difference this time and what I'm hoping will happen is that lawyers will act more quickly

00:14:48.640 and get their butts into court and go for injunctions and bring suits

00:14:53.940 before they can justify withdrawing it suddenly in order to get that mootness ruling.

00:15:00.840 Yeah, so, you know, when we talk about acting more quickly as far as lawyers are concerned,

00:15:06.000 I'm sure there's still a large faction of legal minds in this country

00:15:10.860 who wouldn't want to touch a case like this

00:15:12.700 because they don't want to upset their standing in the law community.

00:15:15.860 but let's just say we add another hundred or so lawyers who are willing to take some of these

00:15:21.140 cases on um do you think with everything that's happened in the past three or four years that

00:15:27.780 they'd be able to come up with a more cogent strategy to fight back against these regulations

00:15:33.140 i would hope so so would i but you think they could

00:15:39.060 here's the problem is that canadian lawyers are about 200 years behind our american counterparts

00:15:45.300 on holding our government to account so my tactics and strategy come from american lawyers

00:15:51.220 i hooked up with american lawyers doing uh what i do and a handful of lawyers in canada are doing

00:15:57.720 and i'm using american style tactics our laws might be different or that's what but the tactics

00:16:04.900 are the same because we're all based on the british law system so uh the crown doesn't

00:16:10.720 quite know what to do with me because i'm i'm not fighting fair no actually you are they haven't

00:16:17.920 been fighting fair for a long time so i'm glad to see i'm glad to see that we've got a lawyer in 0.98

00:16:23.620 this country who's willing to roll up her sleeves and get down and dirty with these clowns your 0.85

00:16:28.080 lawsuit is against uh the military well i guess certain members you've named certain members 0.94

00:16:33.940 of the military uh chief of staff former chief of staff wayne air you've named uh defense

00:16:40.460 minister at the time anita and i'd you've got over 300 plaintiffs involved in this case so far

00:16:45.900 i mean when this came to you because you operate a boutique law firm in edmonton katherine let's be

00:16:51.420 honest here you're not exactly a massive operation here i mean did you go yeah i could take this on

00:16:58.300 but this is running a really big risk here because how are you ever going to have another case how

00:17:03.420 are you going to keep this reminds me of uh what's that movie with with uh julia roberts

00:17:09.500 oh aaron aaron brokovich that's what this reminds me i have watched some of those clips to remind

00:17:15.020 me of what i have taken on yeah i mean it's a lot i mean do you have any help in this or are you all

00:17:21.420 on your own here so i'm the only lawyer however here's my advantage there's two mass torts they're

00:17:28.460 pretty much the same we filed one in june then i had a bunch of people come forward and the only

00:17:32.940 people who could beat the statute of limitations date which was in october of uh 23 i got 128 more

00:17:40.860 so we have 458 members of the military or veterans who have come forward to bring this mass tort for

00:17:48.540 abuse of power wow here's my magic formula i have 458 of some of the best canada has to offer they're

00:17:57.580 smart they know what they're doing they're motivated i you know give them their orders and

00:18:03.640 they they carry them out so i have a big green battalion behind me helping me do this and they

00:18:12.100 know the system better than the department of justice who is representing the canadian armed

00:18:17.360 forces and the government of canada i'll give you an example i was not related to this case but i

00:18:22.520 was in a courtroom with the Department of Justice lawyer, and I used the acronym of DOAD, which is

00:18:30.100 basically the acronym for the policies of the Canadian Art Forces. Now, the justice on the

00:18:37.280 bench asked me, what do you mean by DOAD? And I wasn't too surprised about that. But I was very

00:18:43.340 surprised when the Crown lawyer said to me, yeah, what's a DOAD? And I'm thinking, you don't even

00:18:50.880 know the acronym for policy for the canadian of course that's when i realized that the department

00:18:56.160 of justice lawyers don't know their own clients wow i have 458 experts behind me they're there

00:19:03.200 that's how we've dug up almost half a million pages of evidence have you they were there they

00:19:08.960 know their own conversations have you sat down with each one of these members or former members

00:19:16.320 and listen to their stories yes i have and what are the ones that stand out to you the most

00:19:23.760 so you can take your take your time with this because we've got lots of time here yeah so the

00:19:29.440 one that uh the the first group of people i asked them when i go on these interviews what's the one

00:19:36.160 story for sure that you always want me to talk about and this is a young soldier was in uh

00:19:43.520 saint jean quebec uh it was january and february of 22 which you remember is right around the

00:19:51.440 trekker convoy era yeah yeah it was better yeah it was bitter it was cold it was a typical quebec

00:19:59.920 winter his uh female commanding officer major hardy ordered him to stand outside in the cold

00:20:09.440 for six weeks he lasted every day in the cold he lost 30 pounds of muscle mass

00:20:17.920 until he finally couldn't do it anymore how we're talking that's physical torture

00:20:25.120 that is and how long per day like we're talking about an eight hour 12 hour uh

00:20:30.720 his whole day he was ordered to to be there before the rest of uh the group would be there

00:20:37.880 for their regular day so that he would have to stand outside the building and everyone would

00:20:42.580 walk past him and taunt him. They'd taunt him through the windows. They'd tell him how stupid

00:20:47.900 he was. They'd post pictures of him on Facebook and make fun of him there. If this CO did this 1.00

00:20:58.420 to a prisoner of war, she'd be in the Hague for a war crime. And she did this to her own

00:21:03.640 true 0.99

00:21:04.740 so she'll do it to her own people 0.97

00:21:07.560 what will she do to preserve war

00:21:09.220 let me ask you that's obviously 0.95

00:21:11.700 an unlawful order

00:21:12.960 and I'm wondering if that's a

00:21:15.680 separate case that you can launch

00:21:17.540 as well against this one particular

00:21:19.340 commanding officer

00:21:20.540 they're pretty protected

00:21:23.600 by the liability

00:21:25.560 crown liability laws

00:21:26.940 but it is

00:21:28.600 serves as a very good example of

00:21:30.840 abuse of power because I knew I couldn't

00:21:33.340 bring a covid lawsuit back in october of 21 when the military mandate came in i knew i wasn't going

00:21:41.340 to even get in a courtroom with covid so it was like okay everybody's telling me these stories

00:21:47.120 and there's just one after another and i'm thinking i have to do something about this

00:21:50.960 i can't i can't live with myself if i tell them to go away and can't do anything

00:21:55.840 so then i thought well i've been watching the forces i've been watching them for years and

00:22:01.420 All of the sexual misconduct stuff, all the racial stuff, that is all abuse of power.

00:22:09.040 It all boils down to people feeling comfortable with abusing the power they hold over those in the ranks below.

00:22:15.980 So everybody comes to me with, like, there were thousands of stories, and it boiled down to hundreds willing to put their name on the paper.

00:22:25.660 But I thought, wait a minute, General Eyre just handed me an abuse of power lawsuit on a silver platter.

00:22:34.880 Because this isn't one or two people, a disgruntled veteran or a bad apple.

00:22:39.380 This is hundreds of people who were abused by their commanding officers and the chain of command.

00:22:47.220 You can't just count that many people.

00:22:49.360 And we're talking people with not a single blemish on their records.

00:22:53.460 There was one woman, she was only a few months away from a full retirement after 36 years of service.

00:23:00.920 She had deployed, left her family behind.

00:23:04.160 Her husband was terminally ill with cancer in the private married quarters on Wainwright where she was posted.

00:23:12.840 And they gave her a 5F release.

00:23:16.600 She should have been a medical release for injuries, but came after her pension.

00:23:23.460 her husband died a few months later

00:23:26.320 so then because she's being released

00:23:28.400 she can't stay in military

00:23:30.460 housing so she's trying to find 0.99

00:23:32.400 somewhere to live with no income

00:23:34.260 and a husband dying of cancer

00:23:35.660 and her commanding officer had no compassion

00:23:40.560 for it at all

00:23:41.940 are there

00:23:44.280 other stories like that? I mean the more

00:23:46.340 stories that you can get out

00:23:47.800 the better off we're going to be

00:23:49.340 people who are watching this right now

00:23:51.700 will be watching this in the next week or so they're going to be aghast at hearing the examples

00:23:57.700 that you're about to lay out and when you do present this case are you going to have to lay

00:24:02.540 out all 458 different examples or are you just going to you've got to do wow it's going to be a

00:24:08.740 long one then i guess huh yeah we ever go to trial we're looking at months months okay so what is the

00:24:15.620 status then of your case right now i mean has the government come to you and said all right look

00:24:21.520 Catherine, maybe you'd consider something other than going to trial.

00:24:27.520 No?

00:24:28.520 No, no.

00:24:30.800 The senior counsel for the government is quite upset with me.

00:24:36.760 For one thing, he doesn't understand what the lawsuit's about.

00:24:39.720 He thinks it should all go to the grievance system,

00:24:42.840 even though the grievance system has said,

00:24:46.040 no, there's claims here that can't be handled by the grievance system.

00:24:49.080 It has to go to civil court.

00:24:51.520 So, that'll be interesting.

00:24:54.760 So right from the moment I filed, I got a letter that said, there's nothing here.

00:25:01.140 I'm bringing a motion to dismiss your case.

00:25:05.280 This is going to go away, and it's going to cost your clients, unfortunately.

00:25:10.560 And I ignored him.

00:25:12.600 So then we filed the second one.

00:25:15.280 That made him even crankier.

00:25:17.200 So then he kept threatening with motion to dismiss.

00:25:20.060 I just kept going. I followed the rules of court. He eventually filed a defense. I filed a reply.

00:25:28.520 Then I started sending an affidavit of documents, which is a list of our evidence. He didn't send

00:25:35.640 me his. I said, well, where is it? He ignored me. I brought a motion in the court because I can do

00:25:41.160 that to force him to give it to me. We ended up in case management. I thought, well, this is

00:25:46.600 good because case management justice can give us decisions faster and it's always the same one so

00:25:52.360 they get to know the file really well uh so away we go into case management and uh he starts off

00:25:59.840 with uh well the crown is bringing a motion to dismiss we this needs to happen and i said my

00:26:06.000 reaction was great he keeps threatening me with it if he wants to do it let's get it over with

00:26:10.680 let's do it and the justice said to her reaction was fantastic she looked and said i agree let's

00:26:18.260 get this done uh and then the crown lawyer said well we need you know the courts are closed for

00:26:23.940 july and august we're going to be going into the fall so we should set this for next year

00:26:29.060 and the sometimes you don't get in the way when your enemies make a mistake so right the uh judge

00:26:38.840 She just lifts her head on the screen and goes, we aren't closed in July and August.

00:26:44.340 There's a couple of weeks where it's the judges take off so that we get some time off.

00:26:50.560 But we're not closed for the summer.

00:26:53.340 I have August 20th open on my calendar, counsel.

00:26:56.520 How's that work for you?

00:26:58.920 To which I said, works fine for me.

00:27:01.760 And he kind of stumbled around a little bit.

00:27:03.860 So August 20th, we're going in for the hearing.

00:27:07.540 His brief is due this Friday, July the 12th.

00:27:12.720 And then my reply is due August 9th.

00:27:16.860 So this hearing, it's not to decide the entire case.

00:27:21.580 It's just to decide whether it goes ahead or not, correct?

00:27:24.340 Exactly.

00:27:25.140 So my clients have 31 claims.

00:27:27.440 I only need one to survive to keep going.

00:27:31.400 Do you live next to a drag race track, by the way?

00:27:34.400 No.

00:27:34.920 but there's it's alberta shadow right right a lot of big f-350s yeah and motorcycles right right

00:27:45.300 so so go ahead please yep so we only need one claim uh i already have he's bringing it that

00:27:52.360 we're we're too early we should go through the grievance system i already have it from the

00:27:58.360 committee that says charter breaches can't be done dealt with in the grievance system so i already

00:28:05.300 know i've got that much to keep going so so is it different with a military case as opposed to just

00:28:13.180 a regular everyday canadian citizen case when it comes to charter breaches or is it much the same

00:28:18.420 for charter breaches is exactly the same just because they wear a uniform doesn't mean they

00:28:23.060 gave up their charter rights yeah because that that's something that people have actually asked

00:28:27.880 me about and i've never really looked into is when you are a member of the canadian armed forces

00:28:34.000 i think somebody told me a couple of years ago you waive your rights because there are in fact

00:28:39.020 mandatory vaccine regulations for members who are deployed overseas into certain countries am i

00:28:44.780 correct ah no there's where you're getting into something that i really enjoy explaining to people

00:28:50.160 okay section 126 of the national defense act a chief defense staff can order mandatory

00:28:57.300 vaccination and if you don't want to take the vaccination you are allowed a court-martial

00:29:04.500 you're charged by a formal charge you go to court-martial and if you have a reasonable excuse

00:29:09.780 for not taking it you are acquitted this happened in the kipling case with the anthrax vaccine

00:29:17.140 for a rack at the end of the 90s but here's the catch the mandate did not use section 126

00:29:24.420 of the national defense act i think because they knew they couldn't survive a challenge

00:29:29.300 a religious exemption etc they would never survive that challenge and then you set up a precedent

00:29:34.400 you've got 3 000 people winning against your mandate um so and and the let's face it the jag

00:29:43.380 office is too small to do 3 000 courts martial right so they did it as an administrative measure

00:29:50.540 and they just screwed it up royally uh they ended up with three different directives uh or four

00:29:58.420 different directives in the end uh because every time they issue a new one i'd have a zoom meeting

00:30:04.360 and then they'd realize what mistakes they'd made and they try to fix it but they messed up badly

00:30:10.440 so they can't they can't use the well i have the authority to order it no no you don't and

00:30:17.900 And the other issue is there's policy that says you cannot vaccinate a pregnant woman in the military with anything.

00:30:28.120 There's also policy from the Kipling case that says you can't use military members for experimental drugs.

00:30:37.820 Okay, so this is where you're going to have to try and get around that judicial notice by saying,

00:30:44.860 no no this is experimental because if you don't you're never going to be able to use experimental

00:30:49.500 drugs in court proceedings judicial notice would just stop all over you right right yeah so this

00:30:56.000 is where this uh hoff decision where this tribunal said well no we can't say judicial notice of safe

00:31:03.960 and effective because health canada says it's safe and effective right we can say they approved it

00:31:10.340 but that doesn't mean it's safe and effective yeah they've also approved all kinds of junk food

00:31:15.420 you can buy in stores that have all kinds of cancer causing agents in them so i mean health

00:31:20.100 canada's approval means nothing yeah they approved thalidomide too right right we know what

00:31:26.080 thalidomide was all about back in the 50s in the early 1960s so this is a charter case then you're

00:31:32.640 not necessarily making this about covid19 or the vaccine am i right no the covid uh the covid

00:31:39.080 mandate is an example of an abuse of power because i to bring an abuse of power lawsuit against the

00:31:44.920 forces i could have rounded up people and had 1999 they did this 2003 they did this 2011 this

00:31:54.120 happened instead of having to do that and pull all these things in i've got october 8 2021

00:32:01.160 the chief of defense staff issues this mandate. And then from there, all of his commanding

00:32:09.240 officers did all of these things that abused their power from that moment on. So it nicely

00:32:17.440 bundles. So when I walk into a courtroom with half a million pages of documents, I'm talking

00:32:22.700 about one instance as an example of the abuse of power within the military. So that makes

00:32:30.500 it much easier for me to explain to the person on the bench why my clients should get what

00:32:38.380 they're asking for.

00:32:39.820 Which charter sections of the charter are you focusing on?

00:32:45.560 So section 7, section 15, section 2A with the religious exemptions.

00:32:57.460 Yeah.

00:32:58.380 So there's a few.

00:32:59.120 there's more section eight we have quite a few are you concerned that they're going to throw

00:33:05.600 section one in your face and that's going to be the end of that uh they are going to i can guarantee

00:33:11.760 that they will uh but um i'm not too worried about it because uh there's lots of there's lots of

00:33:20.400 things backing me up and when we received um the notice from the judicial from the military review

00:33:27.840 committee saying that there were definitely charter breaches that just made my made it much

00:33:34.480 stronger how would you respond you can still hear me yeah because something because something has

00:33:41.980 happened have we said hello to the canadian forces national investigation service yet

00:33:48.380 hey hey canadian forces national investigation service you're gonna lose bad um so where where

00:33:56.320 was i here so are you prepared do you have an argument prepared when they throw section one up

00:34:01.280 at you oh yes yep it wasn't they're not uh the infringements are not justified at all at all

00:34:09.680 and i mean i have their own committee telling telling in writing saying that the infringement

00:34:17.360 was not justified okay so so you're you figure that you're going to be able to carry on uh

00:34:24.000 How long does it take for a ruling if the Crown says, well, Section 1, Your Honor, or Your Worship, or however you refer to this particular judge, and the judge says, sidebar, and you go and have this discussion about Section 1, is it like a 15-minute discussion, or is it something that would take the judge a couple of weeks to rule on?

00:34:42.440 uh so if they're going to bring the section one argument where that's going to be at a trial

00:34:47.800 which will take a long time because of how many people there are uh and then it could take months

00:34:54.620 to get a decision out of the federal court so so this is a federal this is a federal court case

00:35:03.340 you're going right to the federal court wow because it's the canadian military right uh

00:35:09.980 they fall under the federal court because we're suing the government i suppose so so obviously

00:35:15.500 katherine this is going to be a long drawn out process we're talking about what happens when

00:35:21.980 they don't get their case dismissed well no this is what i mean right like they're not going to get

00:35:26.780 their case dismissed obviously i believe that you've got enough to convince the judge that

00:35:31.940 this should go to trial so you go to federal court and let's just say you win in federal court you

00:35:38.220 know that the crown is going to appeal you know that's going to happen so then you got to go to

00:35:43.580 appeals court this quite probably could wind up in the hands of the supreme court of of canada

00:35:48.520 right yes yeah that's a good possibility and we're talking about a process that is years long

00:35:55.820 this could be up to five years are you prepared for this i mean this is i am i mean i've been

00:36:01.320 And I've been representing these people since October of 2021.

00:36:06.580 We tried for an injunction in December of 21 to stop the mandate.

00:36:11.220 I didn't expect success.

00:36:13.900 Injunctions in Canada are extremely hard to get.

00:36:16.900 But what it did is it revealed the other side's argument.

00:36:20.440 Right.

00:36:21.440 So the same argument he's going to bring against me in August, they brought in December

00:36:26.240 of 21.

00:36:27.240 So I already have their argument.

00:36:28.700 already have all we need to defeat it but what it did was uh they said so the judge justice in the

00:36:36.940 injunction hearing said oh no you need to use the grievance system first uh so i met with my clients

00:36:43.420 i said okay they want us to use the grievance system because they're all in at this point

00:36:48.380 i said i want every single one of you while you're still serving to file a grievance over every

00:36:54.380 single little thing you could grieve and don't put it into a bundle of grief my grievance with

00:37:01.420 a bunch of stuff i want every single grievance every single issue to be a grievance in six

00:37:07.020 months we filed 10 000 grievances it was already bad but we broke the system

00:37:15.980 absolutely broke it so that when i stand up in august i can say they tried to use it

00:37:21.500 it they tried to use it because it's broken have you can't use it have you experienced an array

00:37:29.900 of emotions with the members who were involved in this case i mean certainly with 458 members

00:37:35.180 and i know how loyal that these members are to their service brothers and sisters and the

00:37:44.660 organization in general they want to serve their country did they feel as though by being a part

00:37:50.540 this case at least some of them i'm not going to say all but are there some that feel as though

00:37:55.340 they're actually betraying the armed forces and the country no quite the opposite in fact

00:38:04.220 they see themselves as the tip of the spear to bring about change in the canadian armed forces

00:38:10.620 so that no one else has to go through what they went through because they these people with

00:38:16.300 absolutely exemplary careers from the rank of private to lieutenant colonel and the navy 0.55

00:38:21.900 equivalent got tossed aside like they were garbage and they were the best canada has to offer

00:38:30.060 the absolute best and the one even the ones on our part of this lawsuit

00:38:35.500 a big part of the loss of people in the canadian armed forces and the reason we can't recruit

00:38:40.620 is this mandate because it showed that there was no loyalty the the key to military

00:38:49.340 command structure is that the people who serve under the commanding officer have to trust

00:38:55.740 absolutely trust that whatever order they're given is there's a reason for it if they're told

00:39:02.780 to take that hill and they're probably going to die when they do it they have to believe that

00:39:07.420 that there's a reason for it, and they're willing to do it.

00:39:11.280 What happened was they felt absolutely betrayed by the chain of command.

00:39:16.940 The trust in the chain of command is gone in the Canadian armed forces.

00:39:21.580 The people in the lower ranks don't trust the higher ranks,

00:39:24.260 and when that happens, you don't have a military anymore.

00:39:27.420 Because they can't trust them that they're actually looking out for their best interests.

00:39:31.380 you know so what's happening now because they can't do effective recruitment with canadian

00:39:38.380 citizens they're actually going to be accepting foreign nationals we understand people who are

00:39:44.420 not even citizens of this country so i guess they're going to have to amend the rules for

00:39:49.180 qualifying to be a member of the canadian armed forces in the next couple of years

00:39:53.600 just to keep their quotas up i mean right now i've heard where they're down around 15 000

00:39:59.700 full-time members when they're supposed to be at 80 am i correct i ideally our military would be

00:40:05.640 98 000 but they hovered around 68 000 before this

00:40:10.620 constantly around 68 so they were already down numbers and then they lost thousands to the mandate

00:40:18.840 and what they didn't lose to the mandate they lost to dei uh woke agendas right and of course

00:40:27.340 they've just announced that the queen of dei is now going to be chief of defense staff

00:40:33.420 yeah yeah i heard the boys on uh uh the v4f talking about that and they say i was right i

00:40:39.460 think it was jeff who was saying jeff evely i was right about this i was right the whole time

00:40:43.440 i think drew said the same thing uh mcgillivary so you said that some of these 458 are still

00:40:51.760 serving correct yes they are okay and these mandates these vaccine mandates are still in

00:40:58.880 place right yes so how how is it that they're still serving are they are they have they been

00:41:05.760 relegated to lower duty or something well some of them were given uh what in the military they call

00:41:12.800 ship postings or punishment postings uh so some of them were that some were moved around to uh try

00:41:20.400 like some of the pilots were taken given positions where they never wouldn't touch an airplane again

00:41:27.360 um so but let's see this is just only helps my lawsuit because some of them are deploying

00:41:39.120 with no vaccine because they're so short of people they're deploying them

00:41:46.240 wow all of a sudden the mandate doesn't isn't quite so enforceable

00:41:53.200 is there is there any is is there any hope i mean this is a question that's a little bit off topic

00:42:00.880 regarding the lawsuit catherine but i know that you've spent a lot of time with these folks

00:42:05.600 and the military the canadian military has obviously been completely depleted and morally

00:42:12.800 bankrupt now at this point is there any hope of rebuilding it to where it once was i mean i i

00:42:19.840 remember living in kingston ontario i don't know 20 years ago or so and that's where they've got

00:42:25.440 you know the that's where royal military college is for goodness sakes that's where cfb kingston

00:42:29.840 is these bump into military people all the time and i was always very happy and excited even

00:42:34.880 to talk to a member of the military and proudly and nowadays it's like i'm i'm not sure if i

00:42:40.400 should approach them because of everything that's gone on you know you like you don't know what to

00:42:45.040 say you might say the wrong thing and who knows right is there any chance of rebuilding what used

00:42:52.080 to be uh they need to complete the destruction it's pretty close to being completely destroyed

00:43:00.640 they need to let it fail to the point of ashes and then rebuild from the ashes maybe that's what

00:43:05.440 they're doing uh well i you know i i will be honest with your listeners um i am suspecting

00:43:12.960 they might be gonna kim campbell uh general kerrigan could you say again repeat i think

00:43:20.240 they're gonna kim campbell uh general kerrigan so you think that general kerrigan is just kind

00:43:26.560 of a stopgap measure until they can actually bring in somebody who can forcefully command

00:43:32.480 the canadian armed forces and bring back that integrity it looks like it or are they dedicated

00:43:38.080 to this she won't survive a conservative government for sure right right wow you know

00:43:46.000 it it's amazing to me that people don't seem to understand and this is kind of a sad commentary

00:43:52.240 on our country because all of our institutions have been compromised and these institutions

00:43:57.280 Catherine we're talking about the RCMP and the judicial system and the medical system and all

00:44:02.240 of that they are not supposed to be compromised by government at all I mean these are institutions

00:44:10.600 that are supposed to be independent of government interference right yes so well especially our

00:44:16.640 military and our judicial system we don't swear an oath to the government we don't swear an oath

00:44:22.140 to the people of canada we swear no to the crown to the king of canada right now is who i owe my

00:44:28.680 loyalty to yeah but the king of canada yeah but the king of canada is big into dei as well so i

00:44:35.620 think that's the solution i'm just saying but there's an actual purpose to it and that's going

00:44:42.080 all the way back to the english civil war cromwell uh when they were bringing charles ii back in as

00:44:48.620 king of england the deal was that he kept control of the court and he kept control of the military

00:44:55.020 and the reason for that was if the parliament ever turned on the people again the king could turn the

00:45:02.140 military and the courts on the parliament and this is why i'm really disappointed in warriors in

00:45:08.220 canada through this whole mandates lockdowns the travel the whole thing the emergencies act

00:45:17.420 where were my colleagues? Our job is to hold the government to account. That's a lawyer's

00:45:23.980 job to step up and say, no, you're not allowed to do this. Here's the line and you're not allowed

00:45:31.500 to cross it. And so many lawyers just rolled over. And that I was really disgusted. Like

00:45:38.860 my clients, when they reached out to a couple of other lawyers who had been

00:45:42.540 jag officers that are now in private practice they were told you were given an order follow it

00:45:48.540 not one of those lawyers stepped back and thought wait a minute was this a lawful order

00:45:56.220 not right it took a civilian lawyer with a lot of practice with military people to step back

00:46:02.700 and say wait a minute you can't order people to do what you're ordering them to do and in fact

00:46:08.460 the jag corps i've got the briefing notes i've got the evidence to show us they told general

00:46:16.360 air he could not do this they told him and he did it anyway if you if you've got those notes i mean

00:46:24.220 you your case is already won as far as i'm concerned it's just a matter of riding the

00:46:28.840 rapids at this point i think you're asking for over a million dollars per plaintiff am i right

00:46:35.360 Yes, so we're talking about 1.5 with all the claims.

00:46:40.500 So we're talking in the area of roughly $650 million if you win this thing.

00:46:46.160 Yes.

00:46:46.960 I mean, that could break the Canadian Armed Forces right there and then.

00:46:53.580 Well, they're not spending their money on bullets or equipment.

00:46:57.580 Sure they are. They're just giving them to Ukraine.

00:47:00.260 Well, some of my clients are joking that they could meet their NATO requirement 0.58

00:47:05.220 if they pay out our lawsuit, then they could add that to the defense budget

00:47:10.340 and say, look, we spent 2%.

00:47:12.440 Right.

00:47:14.100 I think we're one of only two nations that isn't now when it comes to NATO.

00:47:18.920 23 of the 25 are, and two aren't, and we're one of them.

00:47:22.900 Thanks, Justin Trudeau.

00:47:24.380 Are there any of the plaintiffs who are thinking, you know what,

00:47:28.580 i i can't do this anymore and they're going to drop out or are they all resolute uh they're all

00:47:36.040 resolute to go through with this because they're they're still angry three years later they're

00:47:41.240 still they're livid they're furious that the military they devoted their lives to

00:47:46.540 would do such a thing are you gaining members now i mean like you started off with 300 and now

00:47:53.920 you're 458 or is there a chance of any more signing on i get calls every week wanting to

00:47:59.800 join the problem is the statute of limitations uh timed out in october of 23 rats well the you know

00:48:09.380 maybe it's not completely dead you know the crowd might want to keep it in mind that if i win the

00:48:13.920 mass tort maybe there'll be a class action that follows right so a whole new process

00:48:21.620 and this time you got a thousand of them wow that would be something that would be something

00:48:27.980 kathy look i go ahead jtf2 we got special forces soldiers who have been severely injured

00:48:35.900 from the vaccines they were given we've i've got healthy young men between the

00:48:43.100 biggest group is between 35 and 40 falling in dropping dead in their sleep

00:48:49.640 because they they took the vaccine they followed the followed the order to keep their job

00:48:57.920 is that absolutely proven that these deaths are due to the jab uh well it is by time etc

00:49:08.460 symptoms here's the catch the department of national defense is fighting me hard on giving

00:49:13.640 meet their medical records once you bears is denying vaccine injury claims they're saying yes

00:49:22.840 some of them are going yes you were injured by the vaccine but that's not service related so

00:49:27.420 we're not going to cover you these are people having to release from the military because

00:49:33.560 they're so badly injured and they're being left with nothing nothing no benefits nothing so this

00:49:40.920 takes me back to the other topic that we were discussing that it seems as though the military

00:49:46.380 the crown they are absolutely adamant that they're not going to give any ground on this and the only

00:49:51.760 reason that i can see for this is that they plan on doing it again yes yeah they considered

00:49:59.120 themselves that it was successful enough to do it again and then to do it again they're gonna

00:50:06.100 They have to have the right people in the military's case, the right person in the chief of defense staff's chair.

00:50:12.780 Because they got rid of a lot of generals who said no.

00:50:16.600 Yeah, I heard you talking about that in Boziger a couple of weekends ago.

00:50:20.840 I was very surprised to hear.

00:50:22.780 And each one of these generals that came along wound up with some kind of a sexual complaint against them or something like that.

00:50:30.540 Can you give us a little bit more on that?

00:50:32.740 I sure can.

00:50:33.360 So Chief of Defense Staff, when vaccines first started to become a real thing, was Jonathan Vance.

00:50:42.220 He had been having an affair for years with one of his members that was a junior in ranked him.

00:50:50.840 And he'd even had children with the woman.

00:50:54.040 And he gets a visit from Jody Thomas, who was Deputy Minister of Defense at the time.

00:51:00.120 And she tells him, you're going to give it 100% vaccination rate to set an example for the Canadian people.

00:51:07.200 First of all, that's not our military's job.

00:51:09.840 He said, no, I can't do that.

00:51:13.500 He knew the law.

00:51:15.140 And he said, what if there's something wrong with this vaccine?

00:51:18.740 You're going to wipe out my entire military.

00:51:21.420 And, you know, you're not using my people as guinea pigs.

00:51:25.260 Because everyone in the military pretty much got Majora.

00:51:30.120 Even at a time where Moderna was already being withdrawn in other countries, our military was still getting it.

00:51:36.280 Right.

00:51:36.600 So lo and behold, all of a sudden he's got a sexual misconduct delegation and he's booted.

00:51:42.200 Along comes Admiral McDonald.

00:51:44.640 He's not in there for more than a couple of weeks.

00:51:46.900 I have the briefing note where it says you cannot do this.

00:51:51.260 This is not going to fly.

00:51:52.820 You can't do it.

00:51:54.400 He says, no, I won't do it.

00:51:56.960 Sexual misconduct allegations.

00:52:00.120 so then in comes acting chief of defense staff wayner general danny fortan was uh in charge of

00:52:09.360 the public rollout of vaccines and he said no i'm not going to mandate it sexual misconduct

00:52:15.640 delegations so that's three that's three and then wayner comes in and he goes ahead and and does it

00:52:22.360 right well hold on so wayner is acting chief of defense staff he gets a memo he gets a briefing

00:52:26.880 note that says you can't do this. No way. Written by Trevor Cadu. Trevor Cadu, sexual misconduct

00:52:34.500 allegations. General Whalen says, look, I'm head of HR for the military. What you're doing between

00:52:43.840 the mandates and the DEI stuff, you're killing the military. You can't recruit sexual misconduct

00:52:51.260 allegations and just in case you think it's only in canada last as soon as the labor government

00:52:59.600 was elected one of their former military commanders as who was very outspoken about everything has

00:53:06.640 just been charged with sexual misconduct yeah it's interesting that it's happening in france

00:53:11.660 right now as well marine le pan who just recently lost the elections in france is now going to be

00:53:16.960 tried on some sort of uh campaign funding corruption charges like these these people

00:53:23.920 they want to just destroy the other side right and they're going to use any kind of legal means

00:53:30.440 or lawfare that they can think of it's absolute lawfare now keep in mind all of these gentlemen

00:53:35.420 have been cleared uh interesting for me on general whalen uh is that during his court

00:53:41.860 marshal when it came time for his defense to present their case they called general air to

00:53:48.420 the stand and the charges were withdrawn immediately they didn't want air to testify

00:53:55.840 do you have go ahead and the crown is working really really hard to keep me from deposing

00:54:03.440 general air but i'm not going to start with wayne air i'm going to start with

00:54:08.620 Trevor Cadu, Danny Fortan, Stephen Whelan.

00:54:13.100 Yeah.

00:54:13.940 Are you going to be able to bring in these guys as witnesses?

00:54:20.440 Yes.

00:54:21.120 Oh, this is going to be.

00:54:23.680 So there's a saying, Shadow.

00:54:25.820 Be careful who you step on on your way up because you're going to meet them on your way down.

00:54:29.840 And none of those five gentlemen will have any loyalty to Wayne Ayer.

00:54:36.220 Wow.

00:54:36.740 And I named Dwayne Eyre personally, so his retiring is not going to get him out of this.

00:54:42.660 Well, I don't see how these guys, you know what?

00:54:49.700 Do you think that Dwayne Eyre would still have the juice to be able to go to the crowd and say,

00:54:54.860 look it, man, I really don't want to go through this, and she's going to make me go through this.

00:55:00.380 She's going to haul my ass up there, and she is going to go up one side of me and down the other. 0.87

00:55:04.860 that's going to absolutely destroy what's left of his reputation do you think that somebody like 0.98

00:55:09.560 him would be able to convince the crowd to just say all right let's make a deal or are they going

00:55:14.760 all the way on this well it's hard to say i that they're protecting him a lot the other person that

00:55:20.080 needs to worry is nita annette with an election coming yeah well and so is jody thomas so well

00:55:28.940 look these these liberals they they don't have a chance of winning the next election no matter

00:55:33.420 when it is. But you mentioned earlier in our discussion that none of these people are going

00:55:39.200 to be able to survive a conservative government. And it's interesting because people never

00:55:45.500 think about this, right? Like Pierre Polyev over the weekend, he had these fantastic speeches

00:55:49.680 at the Calgary Stampede and thousands of people yelling and cheering acts, the tax and whatnot.

00:55:56.360 So let's say that the conservatives win a super majority. They've still got a liberal Senate. I

00:56:01.200 I mean, 85 of the 105 positions in the Senate right now have been appointed by Justin Trudeau,

00:56:07.720 whether they're independent senators or whether they're liberal senators.

00:56:11.260 It doesn't matter.

00:56:12.100 So the conservatives are not going to be able to get past the Senate

00:56:16.460 if the Senate decides to stand up and say no to the conservative government.

00:56:20.940 They're not going to be able to pass a law.

00:56:23.120 Yeah, you mean if our Senate actually does what it's supposed to do?

00:56:26.060 Well, what I'm saying is, no.

00:56:28.760 No, no, in this situation, right, but in this situation, because they've all been appointed by Trudeau, Trudeau, I think, feels protected that the conservatives are not going to be able to get anything passed because of this liberal Senate.

00:56:43.100 It creates a constitutional crisis. Do you foresee something in the next three years where they have to reopen the Constitution and rework it to get rid of the Senate in some way?

00:56:52.920 they may have to or they may have to go to an elected senate yeah the other challenge we've

00:56:58.820 got is it's a liberal supreme court of canada yeah so our chief here's here's how corrupt our

00:57:06.080 court supreme court of canada and i didn't get in trouble as a lawyer saying that out loud but

00:57:09.800 here i i screamed about this when it happened and nobody paid any attention

00:57:15.420 when they removed the previous governor general from her office they put in a temporary

00:57:22.600 governor general.

00:57:24.820 That temporary governor general

00:57:26.540 was Richard Wagner.

00:57:28.440 He held the role of governor general

00:57:30.540 and chief of the Supreme Court

00:57:32.680 of Canada at the same

00:57:34.460 time.

00:57:36.820 So he is signing laws

00:57:39.000 to make them laws by

00:57:40.580 moral assent that he may

00:57:42.660 have to rule on later

00:57:44.040 as chief justice. Huge conflict.

00:57:47.520 Huge conflict.

00:57:48.120 Division of powers, right?

00:57:50.060 Legislative branch, judicial branch.

00:57:52.220 Also, I mean, Wagner is, I believe he was tweeting as the chief of the Supreme Court of Canada.

00:58:01.780 He was tweeting all about the safety and efficacy of the vaccines and how the mandates were absolutely helping people to stay alive.

00:58:10.020 So how on earth can he remain in that position if a COVID case comes to him?

00:58:15.400 Well, he definitely would have to be, he would have to recuse himself.

00:58:18.340 he won't

00:58:19.980 but he would have to recuse himself 0.94

00:58:22.660 so we've got a corrupt Supreme Court 0.99

00:58:25.020 well

00:58:26.420 here's a story about the Supreme Court

00:58:29.060 of Canada

00:58:29.600 there was a justice on the bench

00:58:32.300 by the name of Russell Brown

00:58:34.140 and he

00:58:37.060 full disclosure he was my

00:58:38.740 torts professor in law school

00:58:40.940 I also did independent legal research

00:58:43.220 with him

00:58:44.140 as part of my law degree

00:58:47.620 which means I worked closely with him for an entire term.

00:58:51.140 Ironically, the subject shadow was informed consent.

00:58:57.780 So I knew very well his legal opinion on informed consent,

00:59:02.980 because I wrote a paper for him that my grades depended on.

00:59:07.380 So he was sitting on the Supreme Court, and I knew he was just waiting for a COVID case to

00:59:13.620 make it that high, because I knew what his position was going to be on this, and he was

00:59:19.080 pretty much the only conservative justice we had on the bench.

00:59:22.240 He was appointed by Harper.

00:59:24.300 Yeah.

00:59:25.300 Right.

00:59:26.300 Our Supreme Court justices are always escorted by security detail here in Canada.

00:59:31.920 They have drivers in security detail.

00:59:35.040 He went to Arizona, no security detail, to present an award to Luis Alvarez, one of our

00:59:41.760 former chief justices was getting an award down in Arizona and he went to do

00:59:45.980 the speech. So he's down there by himself.

00:59:49.340 All of a sudden we hear this story about a young Marine with his girlfriend in

00:59:54.720 the bar and that the justice Brown had been inappropriate with them and that

01:00:00.280 this young Marine had hit him and,

01:00:02.920 and there was police and all the rest of it.

01:00:05.640 Not one picture of justice Brown with a black eye or whatever.

01:00:09.880 I mean, a 30-something-year-old Marine against a Chief Justice in his 50s,

01:00:14.280 there's going to be some physical damage that somebody would see somewhere.

01:00:17.400 Anyway, so there was these very vague allegations that perhaps he'd been inappropriate,

01:00:24.280 and he was forced to resign from the Supreme Court of Canada.

01:00:28.920 In his place has been appointed another Alberta Justice. She was our Chief Justice here.

01:00:34.560 She sanctioned her own husband, who is a lawyer, a criminal defense lawyer. 0.66

01:00:40.580 He refused to wear a mask in court, and she sanctioned it in court.

01:00:48.580 I don't even know what to say to that, man.

01:00:50.640 These people, they're indoctrinated so hard that they're going to give up their own spouse

01:00:56.420 and sanction their own spouse rather than lose this crazy dogma.

01:01:02.320 It's amazing to me.

01:01:03.640 and it still permeates in in all of our institutions so polyev is going to have a

01:01:08.600 lot of work to do if he if he is the man we think he is uh catherine i wish you all the best in this

01:01:14.820 and uh all of the members all 458 uh the best in this as well and i certainly hope that you'll pop

01:01:21.420 on with updates every now and again to let us know how things are going notably next month you've got

01:01:26.520 uh this hearing coming up and i definitely love to hear uh what happens there that would be great

01:01:31.660 yeah absolutely we can if uh feel free to get in touch with me we can book it so i can

01:01:36.860 talk to me soon after okay great thank you catherine i appreciate it uh thanks very much

01:01:42.140 i will talk to you again soon thanks all right uh there is catherine christensen she is with valor

01:01:48.140 law in edmonton and she is taking the government and the military to court in case you have missed

01:01:56.380 the entire interview please go ahead and watch it one more time right from the beginning here on

01:02:02.860 facebook or on youtube or on twitch if you're watching on x if you're watching on rumble or

01:02:08.540 telegram or on shadow davis.com which is where we're just about to head to in just a couple of

01:02:14.620 minutes for the extension tonight on the extension what have we got here oh yeah the big nato summit

01:02:21.180 started today in washington and justin trudeau was there so we're going to start on the extension

01:02:28.420 tonight with video and photos of justin trudeau boarding his plane and heading down to washington

01:02:37.060 or new york wherever this thing is and waving to a crowd

01:02:42.080 then we have video of his speech to all of the nato representatives and you'll be amazed at

01:02:51.300 what he talks about amazed another biden gaffe what else and it's not just a gaffe this time

01:02:59.600 for joe biden it's it's something a little bit worse because you know dei and intersectionality

01:03:05.600 and and critical race theory is big in his party down in the united states well he said something

01:03:11.840 uh today in front of all of these delegates at the at nato that could be unforgivable unless it

01:03:21.020 was just simply a gaffe so we're going to play that video for you uh we we also have video of

01:03:29.480 the liberal party of canada trying to link pierre polyev with donald trump because of course donald 0.84

01:03:39.540 Trump is terrible. Even with his more favorable response from Canadians, according to a poll

01:03:45.840 last week, Canadians tend to like him more now than they did a couple of years ago. They still

01:03:50.540 don't like him very much, the majority of Canadians. So, of course, the Liberal Party

01:03:53.980 seizes on that, and they go, huh, how can we tie Trump and Polly have together? So they use a

01:04:00.120 phrase, a phrase, to tie the two of them together, I will play, and actually, whoever is tweeting

01:04:08.860 or operating the Liberal Party social media apparatus

01:04:12.320 is either a trained monkey and not very well trained at that,

01:04:15.920 or some student who's working on a summer internship

01:04:19.720 because they have absolutely no idea what they're doing.

01:04:22.800 This video would actually be a better commercial for conservatives

01:04:26.640 and for Republicans in the United States

01:04:29.020 than it is for the liberals in their DEI agenda.

01:04:32.600 So we're going to get to that in just a couple of minutes as well.

01:04:35.100 on the extension for all access members at shadowdavis.com.

01:04:39.860 So if you're a member, I'll see you there in a couple of minutes.

01:04:42.340 If not, why don't you become one?

01:04:44.300 Go, it's cheap.

01:04:45.720 And I'm going to be giving away Shadow at Night coffee mugs

01:04:48.200 in the next month or so for all access members.

01:04:51.320 Not all of you guys are going to get them

01:04:53.160 because I can't afford to give you all coffee mugs,

01:04:56.100 but I'm definitely going to be doing draws.

01:04:57.660 And real ones, not like the kind they do on radio stations

01:05:00.680 where they actually pick the winner of their $1,000 contest

01:05:03.660 tests as long as that person fits their demographic their chosen demographic 35 to 54 we need somebody

01:05:10.480 and we're going for males here so we need somebody who's 46 years old and a man and they will go into

01:05:15.420 their little draw box or their database and they will pick that person to win it's not random not

01:05:21.300 at all i don't care what they say i worked in radio for years and i know how it works me conversely

01:05:27.620 I'll do it randomly.

01:05:28.680 I don't care.

01:05:30.000 Because I haven't got a set demographic.

01:05:32.760 Everybody is welcome here.

01:05:35.660 Everybody.

01:05:38.440 Everybody.

01:05:40.920 So I'll see you for the extension on shadowdavis.com

01:05:44.000 in just a couple of minutes.

01:05:45.080 If not, I will catch you tomorrow night

01:05:47.000 at 8 o'clock central

01:05:48.600 for another Shadow at Night livestream.

01:05:50.840 I love you all and I appreciate you all

01:05:53.460 and I will talk to you soon.

01:05:54.740 Bye for now.

01:05:57.420 We'll be right back.

01:06:27.420 We'll be right back.

The Shadoe Davis Show - July 10, 2024

July 9th⧸2024- Attorney Catherine Christensen, Trudeau at NATO, more embarrassment for Biden

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