The Shadoe Davis Show - May 8th⧸2025- Guest： Nadine Ness....Could Saskatchewan Separate Even Before Alberta？

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00:03:00.000 hello everybody welcome to shadow at night this is thursday may the 8th 2025 and on the show

00:03:19.340 tonight our good friend nadine ness from unified grassroots in saskatchewan she's been making the

00:03:25.120 rounds on social media the last week or so because the government of saskatchewan is afraid of her

00:03:31.940 and her organization and we're going to talk about we've been talking a lot about alberta

00:03:37.540 independence for the past week or so the past ever since the election ended for that matter

00:03:41.840 people seem to be really steamed up in alberta and everybody i've spoken to says yeah man it's

00:03:47.760 everywhere you can't go to a coffee shop you sit down somebody in the booth behind you is talking 0.62

00:03:53.120 about we got to get out of here that's enough of this crap already well i'm wondering if the

00:03:57.760 sentiment is the same in saskatchewan the last poll we saw showed that saskatchewan actually

00:04:02.860 favored sovereignty more than alberta did but those numbers were kind of low 25 for alberta

00:04:10.080 and about 30 for saskatchewan but again who believes the polls that emanate from eastern

00:04:16.980 canada because you know that everybody in the east and all of the opposition in the west all

00:04:22.460 of the lefties in the West are going to be coming after anybody who believes that Alberta and or

00:04:28.980 Saskatchewan should be sovereign countries under themselves. So we're going to talk all about this

00:04:33.460 tonight with Nadine. And the last time she was on the show, I think was like six months ago. So we've

00:04:38.940 got a lot of catching up to do. And I know you guys love her. That's why we bring her on every

00:04:43.440 so often. And she's a great person too. So Nadine Ness coming up in just a second. Shadow at Night

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00:07:04.740 on tonight you guys don't forget it helps a lot to grow the show when you like and share get it

00:07:10.900 out there to as many people as you possibly can nadine ness of unified grassroots talking about

00:07:18.120 independence in saskatchewan coming right up in 30 seconds

00:07:22.460 Thank you.

00:07:52.460 hi hi okay sorry i forgot to put myself on the screen you were there all by yourself for a

00:08:03.920 couple of seconds it was and the funny thing is i wasn't even paying attention i was trying to

00:08:07.760 share the show on twitter oh well you're you're sharing it on it only shares on two of your

00:08:13.540 platforms so you've got it on facebook and youtube that's cool the bigger the audience the better and

00:08:17.860 again guys don't forget to like and share how you doing nadine it's been too long good good yeah i

00:08:22.820 was gonna share it on like just quote tweet it um i'm just gonna do that quick so you can get more

00:08:28.360 views come join me would you like to sing while you're doing that because i know it takes

00:08:34.700 concentration guys i've had careless whisper by wham in my head all day i have no idea where it

00:08:41.100 came from and it's driving me crazy and worse still nadine heard me singing it she said hey

00:08:48.300 you're good and you know what that's only going to encourage me to keep singing this song i need

00:08:54.420 i need something else in there you've been making the rounds on social media lately hey

00:09:01.040 yeah yeah more than social media it's all over mainstream media we no no we don't call it

00:09:08.340 mainstream you know that what do we call it a left-wing corporate media okay left-wing

00:09:14.880 corporate media that is key so anyway you've been everywhere but we we've we've done something

00:09:21.920 different this time we got ahead of the narrative and we started publishing press release so the

00:09:30.240 media is kind of forced to share our side this time oh and they can't look at this speaking about

00:09:35.760 the press release here it is right here you said this to me just the other day we've done two so

00:09:41.220 that was the last one okay so this is let me just center this unified grassroots condemns ndp's

00:09:48.060 attempt to smear citizen-led movement unified grassroots strongly condemns the inflammatory

00:09:53.880 and misleading statements made by the saskatchewan ndp ahead of their scheduled press conference

00:09:58.580 this morning you did get ahead of it congratulations that's great which attempt to portray our

00:10:03.500 organization as far right while they do that all the time and left-wing corporate media as well

00:10:08.620 right and suggest hidden ties to political parties this is a desperate political tactic

00:10:14.600 meant to discredit a democratic citizen-led movement that's grown in strength because

00:10:19.140 the people of saskatchewan are tired of being ignored what exactly did the end i mean the

00:10:25.720 ndp was talking about you personally in the legislature weren't they yeah for like 30 minutes

00:10:32.080 It's so much so that the Speaker of the House had to stop them and said, we ask that people don't defame or talk negatively about people outside of this house who aren't here to be able to defend themselves.

00:10:47.200 So he actually warned ahead of time because he kind of knew, I think, that that was going to be coming because they had already done the presser.

00:10:54.520 And I was made aware of what the presser was going to be.

00:10:58.620 I have some friends in media. So I already knew it was coming. That's why we released this

00:11:04.780 just before I worked on it just before that morning. And they had used some wordings like

00:11:09.560 far right fringe extremists, all of that. And I wanted to nip it in the bud. Because if we don't

00:11:16.560 if we don't share our side, or basically show the public who we actually are, the the left

00:11:24.580 leaning corporate media will do it for us. And they will do it with their own narrative. So

00:11:30.480 they'll use quotes from NDP, and that'll be plastered far right organization leading

00:11:35.220 position, things like that. So we wanted to get ahead of it. And we issued a press release. And

00:11:40.620 what that does, it forces them to do balanced reporting when when us conservatives usually

00:11:46.060 don't talk to them or don't do interviews or don't get ahead of the narrative. They they report what

00:11:52.680 they want but when we do do that they're forced to share the quotes from our press release to

00:11:58.200 to talk about the press release because if they don't then they're liable for not reporting

00:12:03.800 fairly and we can actually file a complaint and it will go somewhere so this time we kind of

00:12:08.780 we kind of played played the the the hand that the conservatives don't usually do and i think

00:12:15.180 they should and it's actually something i learned from americans so how did you learn it like this

00:12:20.560 watching fox news or what no no you had that big seminar last year that you went to right well there

00:12:27.520 was that but we actually you actually did it in saskatchewan yes we did one in saskatchewan yeah

00:12:32.240 and some came and i've also been taking some training from some of the the organizations

00:12:38.120 down there just on on how to run an activist organization because obviously there's a lot

00:12:43.560 more in the u.s that are conservative so we can learn a thing or two from them and uh yeah it's

00:12:49.660 one of the things that they taught us don't don't wait till they define you define yourself first

00:12:54.200 and that's what we've been doing and that's what we're going to keep doing why is the NDP

00:12:59.440 so terrified of you at unified grassroots I think it's an obsession uh that's the only thing I can

00:13:07.960 think of because like that you don't see them attack other citizens the way they attack me

00:13:12.520 but every time they've attacked me it's it's actually turned around and worked against them

00:13:18.620 and i don't think this one's going to be any different so um i don't know maybe because they

00:13:25.780 see that they try to demonize me but it doesn't really work because i'm not i don't i'm not mean

00:13:32.840 back i i am very calculated i'm very graceful i will offer them grace i'm i'm very compassionate

00:13:40.820 in my approach and i i think that that and i'm a former lefty i know how they think and i think

00:13:48.600 because i used to be one of them you know it's funny i i've every time that you've been on the

00:13:56.280 show in the past i always say nadine you've got to get more teeth in your statements right

00:14:01.680 and and and no that's what i've said and you've always maintained this this decorum and this

00:14:09.740 fairness about you and i think that's working in your favor right now because you know as much as

00:14:15.720 the NDP yell and scream about how you know fringe and and right wing like knuckle dragging that you

00:14:22.420 and your organization are supposed to be that's you're not I mean look at you for goodness sakes

00:14:27.120 and that's that's the thing right and I think that's why they're so afraid because conservatives

00:14:32.760 there's several things conservatives will tend to go um more more that well the ones that usually

00:14:41.920 rise, it will tend to go more aggressive. Like if you look at the U S and I'm not saying that

00:14:46.460 that's not needed. It is also needed in Canada because it does move the needle, but where there

00:14:52.020 was always a hole is like the, the people were trying to stay somewhat in the middle to try to

00:14:57.260 bring the middle ground people a little bit more to the right, which is what my goal is. I'm not

00:15:02.480 for the, the people who are fully aware of everything that's happening that there's other

00:15:07.920 people for that i'm for the ones who are still brainwashed like i used to be and trying to get

00:15:13.020 them out of that kind of that that never-ending head in the sand yeah they're definitely i mean

00:15:23.100 the whole elbows up thing i want to talk to you about that because you've been studying

00:15:26.680 all of this you just reminded me of it and i think that you'll probably have some pretty good

00:15:30.940 insights on this how many people are now involved with unified grassroots in terms of membership

00:15:37.060 not necessarily active members but people who are on your mailing list uh well mailing we've

00:15:42.920 never done a mail out um email list then email list uh we probably have like 6 000 i would say

00:15:50.720 email that we but but we haven't we haven't been um super well we did one last week but we hadn't

00:15:59.400 been doing it just because the cost of the website was so expensive and we we didn't really have the

00:16:05.840 funds but we weren't really asking for the funds either we to be honest that the fight constantly

00:16:12.080 constantly constantly and I'm going to be completely blunt with you up until last week

00:16:18.140 like people had become so complacent so we we did a training thing and we had great attendance and

00:16:24.940 we're like we want to do another one in Saskatoon we'd like some donations to be able to to get it

00:16:30.140 going. And we got nothing. So I'm like, okay, well, maybe you guys aren't that motivated for

00:16:36.960 change. Maybe, maybe this things need to get worse before people are actually willing to put

00:16:42.540 efforts towards that. So, and then we kind of decided, well, if we're not going to reach the

00:16:47.500 people in that way, or train the people to be able to fight, maybe we need to change our avenue.

00:16:52.820 And that's where we decided, okay, let's do a show. Because a lot of the problems we have

00:16:57.000 are happening at the federal level but we're locally we're super successful school board

00:17:03.260 we're super successful we we ran 30 and i say we as in it's not ug that ran them we just encouraged

00:17:09.820 and had 30 run and then we sent them a bunch of volunteers to help out no financial donations this

00:17:16.560 is another thing they're insinuating that we gave the money we don't have money to give anyone and

00:17:22.720 we encouraged a lot of people to run a nomination to go vote nomination that was what our whole

00:17:27.260 drive was with the town halls and we got 25 out of 30 school board trustees elected which is a

00:17:34.300 huge number and but we never congratulations that's great that's great because we know what

00:17:39.900 was happening at that level right yeah yeah and the thing is we we focus on the most activist

00:17:45.540 problematic school board trustees as well so so a lot of them got booted out which is which is

00:17:52.140 great but again we we we encourage people to run for city council so we have tons of people all

00:18:00.640 over the province that got elected to city council whether it's reeve or mayor or or things like that

00:18:06.400 and when i say our people i mean like freedom-minded people people who are aware to where 0.92

00:18:11.900 this country is going so when i it's funny because they were they were attacking one of the mlas

00:18:19.300 because i said in a podcast he's one of us and uh he's he's a freedom loving guy and who who would

00:18:26.420 have think that's like a negative thing but that's right you know it's crazy how that narrative has

00:18:32.640 shifted you know and the same thing with elbows up you know that everybody was so proud to be a

00:18:37.220 canadian for a couple of months during the election campaign but you know three years ago in ottawa you

00:18:42.820 couldn't fly the american or the canadian flag because it was a symbol of hate like come on

00:18:48.360 already right and even elbows up is so insane that's something you don't want done in hockey

00:18:53.800 that's actually a negative thing that you would never cheer for yeah and not just that it's super

00:18:59.800 dangerous like yeah um but but it just goes to show it doesn't matter right they'll follow that

00:19:06.040 brainwashed narrative but yeah so we we kind of went a bit dormant and then the election happened

00:19:12.860 I guess we we didn't I didn't I still was doing a show I was doing a show every day and child care

00:19:19.220 issues kind of arose so it slowed down a bit it's twice a week now but that was growing like we're

00:19:25.860 getting 10 to 15,000 views per episode so for Saskatchewan that's pretty pretty decent and

00:19:33.360 And then the election happened, and I got really, really discouraged, not with the Conservative Party or anything the Conservative did.

00:19:45.800 I got really discouraged with the Canadian voter.

00:19:49.300 After 10 years of what we've had, and Carney's no different than Trudeau, I realized, okay, we're going downhill, and we're going downhill fast.

00:20:00.500 what's the best way to protect my family from this and that's kind of my husband's like we

00:20:06.100 need to either move or or work towards getting saskatchewan out of canada so before we go to

00:20:13.340 of moving we're like okay let's fight let's fight for a province and we pulled we pulled the

00:20:22.220 membership and the numbers were shocking the membership of like unified grassroots 66%

00:20:30.420 wanted to separate and join the US which is way higher than I thought 24% wanted to

00:20:37.460 to separate and form its own country and then 8% wanted to stay and I know there's a 2% missing in

00:20:44.700 there is because people kept adding options and we just wanted to know of those three what is it

00:20:50.320 so we kept deleting them but and then we realized okay if 90 want to separate then maybe we need to

00:20:58.720 move this move on this as an organization so and alberta was moving on it and i wasn't seeing much

00:21:05.500 from saskatchewan and really there's other than other political parties like the buffalo or maybe

00:21:11.260 sask united if they had moved on this it would have just caused more splitting the vote and when

00:21:16.520 in reality we just need this movement to be non-partisan let's work with what we've got

00:21:22.080 and and go in that direction so so yeah we we decided to go ahead with it and i say in that

00:21:32.540 in that way because i'm just realizing you and your husband just sitting there going we got it

00:21:36.860 you got to do something and then you you just made that decision right there at the spur of

00:21:40.240 the moment like what a week and a half ago he he was saying it and then i went to my board and i

00:21:46.760 said where are you guys at on this and every single board member is like is what we need to do

00:21:52.160 so so it wasn't even like a question with there wasn't even one board member that was like oh

00:21:58.000 maybe so so then we're like okay well it's going to be a lot of work are you guys willing to put

00:22:03.540 in more work like we're going to need to restructure the way we've been doing because i

00:22:07.900 can't do it all so so we had a big meeting when doing that so we're delegating a lot of stuff

00:22:15.660 we're gonna try to get a lot of volunteers to help this time like actually organize volunteers to

00:22:20.960 help and we um I reached out to a few people before I went ahead like some of the people

00:22:26.980 that have been talking about separation Alberta Prosperity Project as well because I wanted to

00:22:32.580 know has anyone been in touch with them before we move ahead we didn't want to step on anyone's

00:22:37.200 toes and so far they said they had heard nothing from Saskatchewan when I explained who we were

00:22:41.480 they're like oh you're perfect to do this you already have the structure of the people

00:22:45.300 and and then I reached out to Preston Manning so I had a chat with him this was before we decided

00:22:52.060 to go ahead with it and and a few key people that I know that who've been in politics that I

00:22:57.380 trust their judgment and after doing that praying about it we decided okay yeah it's it's going to

00:23:04.420 be tough it's going to be hard but someone's got to do it and that's why i might sound like a bit

00:23:10.140 discouraged no you don't sound that way at all you sound like you're you're in the mode maybe

00:23:16.500 a little trepidatious because this is a big job and you've got a lot of people to reach coming 1.00

00:23:23.620 soon and you're also i mean i know that you've been a target in the past mostly from ndp types

00:23:30.580 and and lefty types just like all of us independent media have but you know i had keith wilson on the

00:23:37.500 other night from i think i told you this from uh from alberta from edmonton and he's he's right in

00:23:44.900 the the middle of all of the alberta sovereignty stuff and you know he we had this discussion about

00:23:51.660 how hard they are going to come after people like you and the alberta prosperity project

00:23:58.620 and the Republican Party of Alberta,

00:24:01.400 which is merged now with the Independence Party of Alberta.

00:24:05.140 There's a lot of just regular people, you know,

00:24:10.940 like people who go to work every day,

00:24:12.700 people who pay a mortgage, just regular, your neighbor,

00:24:15.140 a lot of people.

00:24:16.360 And in Alberta, I'm not so sure about Saskatchewan,

00:24:18.580 I'll talk to you about this,

00:24:19.740 but there's a lot of money behind this movement too.

00:24:22.380 People who are absolutely fed up

00:24:25.020 with the way things are going with the federal government.

00:24:27.800 Danielle Smith says she doesn't want Alberta to separate.

00:24:32.220 She wants a sovereign Alberta within a united Canada, whatever that means.

00:24:36.420 And I know in your case, Scott Moe has said, no, anybody on this side of the benches here, we're all in favor of staying in Canada.

00:24:43.900 So what is the mechanism?

00:24:46.060 First of all, are you prepared for that kind of firestorm?

00:24:49.740 Because it's going to come.

00:24:51.520 They're going to be relevant.

00:24:52.380 Yeah, it's already happening in the spiritual sense.

00:24:57.140 like I can see and this it's some people will say that she's what she's talking about is kind

00:25:03.900 of cuckoo but I can sense when I'm under spiritual attack witchcraft attack whatever you want to call

00:25:08.620 it that's already happening and I've already got now 40 people working kind of praying for

00:25:16.420 our organization praying for myself my family for direction but I did see what Keith was saying I

00:25:22.840 saw a clip as well on Ezra where he says they're going to send everything they've got right yeah

00:25:28.420 especially and we're not just up against like the NDP we're up against the global elites in the

00:25:37.520 world that doesn't want anyone to stand on their own they want to centralize everything not

00:25:43.140 decentralized which is essentially what we're trying to do right yeah so so I do expect that

00:25:50.120 to happen it was a discussion actually we had last night during our board meeting where I said

00:25:56.720 are any of you willing to put your name on it too so I'm not the only target because it's easy to

00:26:02.840 take one down it's harder to take more than one down and I don't want to sound like that that

00:26:08.500 extreme but at the same time like if we're going to be putting in messages it unfortunately it's

00:26:15.320 almost like a negative that our organization is so tied to my name and my face so whatever the

00:26:21.080 organization does it's a reflection on me but if they can take a person down whatever ways but

00:26:30.380 that's the other thing i don't have like skeleton in my closet so they're not going to get you i

00:26:35.880 mean look you're a happily married mother of four who's a christian and it's just going to hurt 0.75

00:26:44.320 their cause they're going to see oh she's like a former lefty that used to hate trudeau that used 0.98

00:26:49.080 to vote for trudeau and hate trump like if they dig far back they'll see that i dislike harper

00:26:53.520 like it's it's not going to help their case but um what i mean by that it wouldn't shock me if

00:26:59.800 there was attempts to try to get to me like through my husband like filing bogus complaints

00:27:04.980 with the college of physicians on my husband we saw that happen during covid it wouldn't shock me

00:27:10.500 if someone was to come out and do like a false allegation against my husband or anything like

00:27:17.380 that. We are prepared to push back if that happens. Like we've kind of talked about it

00:27:25.080 and talked about how that could potentially be something that would occur. So we are ready for

00:27:30.620 it. I just, I don't like hold them to the same standard as I would myself because the people

00:27:36.480 who will be fighting back or pushing back are not people who have,

00:27:40.500 moral character that you and i have yep there's nothing that's off the table like for them so

00:27:47.600 and you're seeing that even in the attacks and some of the stuff it's so disingenuous and but

00:27:54.540 we're going to keep pushing back now the question is what is the public going to do are they going

00:28:00.620 to listen to this and listen to the fear and go right along with the fear because that's what

00:28:05.040 they're going to push right they're going to push fear oh the sky is falling if you go this way or

00:28:10.180 that way? Or are they going to remember the last several decades and what the current status quo

00:28:18.860 has led to? Or are they going to say enough's enough? And I think it's going to be really

00:28:23.200 important to have like leaders all throughout Alberta and Saskatchewan to kind of bring those

00:28:29.940 people back to reality when they start pushing fear. And if there's anything that I'm good at

00:28:35.340 is doing that that's what I did during COVID and and just bring it back okay let's talk back to

00:28:40.840 reality not what they're saying what not what they're pushing and doing it in a calm really

00:28:46.680 compassionate understanding way I think then we might be able to to go in that the right direction

00:28:53.280 but this is a lot more work than the other stuff that we've done I think and we're up against a

00:29:01.920 lot more. And that's just the reality of it. We're going to need more funds. So I think we've had

00:29:08.980 like $1,800 come in, but our website cost has just gone up by three, $400 a month.

00:29:15.460 Yeah. I know that feeling. Yeah. So yeah. What's the website again? Unified grassroots.

00:29:21.900 Unifiedgrassroots.com. Dot com. All right. So if you go look at the signatures, I think it said

00:29:27.900 3,200, but that's not the accurate number of how many people have signed it because some people

00:29:33.400 have just signed up to our website, which doesn't show up in the signature. So they've just subscribed

00:29:38.360 and signed up under our website, which technically is the same thing because everyone's telling them

00:29:42.760 go to Unified Grassroots. So we're probably close to 500, 5,000 signatures and signups.

00:29:49.580 So in Alberta, Keith was telling us the other night that there are 13 different groups who

00:29:55.180 were all working towards Alberta sovereignty which is the first step you know if you know

00:30:00.380 when you were talking about the poll that you did amongst the members of Unified Grassroots

00:30:04.700 just a few moments ago and 66 was it 66 percent of people wanted to leave Canada and join the

00:30:09.720 United States and that's not the sentiment of the the province though I think that would be much

00:30:16.420 lower I talked to APP and theirs was more like 12 percent but I think that that percentage we

00:30:23.000 were founded during covid that facebook group is the following for that is mostly kind of around

00:30:27.720 covid and a lot of people saw the constitution of the americans and see that as way more safe

00:30:34.520 than what we have the canadian charter of rights and freedom here so i think that's why people are

00:30:39.440 kind of leaning more in that direction but i don't know if i'm personally leaning more in that

00:30:45.400 direction i i don't want to go from the controls of ottawa to the controls of dc and while it might

00:30:51.540 be good for us now we don't know in three four years from now what it's going to look like right

00:30:56.320 i would like to see something where we're our own country but maybe we have the currency of the u.s

00:31:02.300 maybe there's more like trade um easier trade between canada and u.s but but yeah i don't know

00:31:09.960 i don't know what the the general public would for sure want but i think it's leaning more

00:31:15.800 independence own country own structures maybe a republic a western republic i think that's

00:31:21.440 what I'm hearing more from the people and then, but just better relationship in with the U S

00:31:26.980 you know, what's interesting is, uh, Keith and I went through the process at least it was a two

00:31:32.860 hour show. And there's a lot of information to take in. People are messaging me the last few

00:31:37.380 days saying, shadow, I watched that show three times already. And I still didn't get everything

00:31:41.200 because he is, he's such a, you know, a smart guy and experienced guy. He's a constitutional

00:31:46.800 lawyer as well so he knows you know all the little ins and outs plus the negotiation part of it as

00:31:52.460 well but what what it boiled down to was simply okay so each province in canada is in fact a

00:32:01.580 a sovereign territory and they the pro the government of the province at any given time

00:32:08.200 can decide what it is they want to do moving forward you know and and there are mechanisms

00:32:13.540 through the Clarity Act that allow each province, not just Alberta, Quebec, or Saskatchewan,

00:32:19.140 to gain independence if they want it. That would be the first step, right? So gaining your

00:32:25.040 independence from Confederation would be step number one. And then after that, it would be,

00:32:32.040 okay, so what do we want to do now? Because we're a sovereign territory, right? So what's next? Do

00:32:38.460 we want to have negotiations with the united states and become a protectorate um do we want

00:32:44.300 to become our own republic right and so this is the these are the discussions these 13 groups are

00:32:49.520 going to be having in alberta and i think that maybe you're a little bit behind them but in

00:32:55.260 terms of all of that but are there other groups in saskatchewan that are i know that there's people

00:33:03.040 in saskatchewan who feel this way and i know that there's some with very large voices on social

00:33:07.440 media as well have you managed to uh have conversations with any of them yeah so so

00:33:13.660 there's a guy who started a change.org petition so we've had conversation with him he's actually

00:33:19.860 shared the data with us we haven't entered it or anything he just kind of was trying to give us a

00:33:25.180 glimpse of who was signing his petition i think that one's up to 6 000 so people could have signed

00:33:30.840 both or it could be complete people doing two different and then we'll eventually merge it

00:33:36.060 together as for uh working with other groups we we have like assigned someone our vp to go direct

00:33:44.020 one-on-one have build relationship with some of the other kind of freedom groups throughout

00:33:48.700 saskatchewan which we've worked with them in the past so there's some throughout the whole province

00:33:53.260 the only ones that we didn't even during the freedom movement is anyone who would push like

00:33:57.840 a political party because we are a non-partisan organization if it was a political party group

00:34:03.380 we we kind of stayed away from from working with them because we didn't want to become partisan

00:34:09.300 so it doesn't mean we're not going to be going towards the same goal it's just we won't be

00:34:16.260 pushing for a new political party or another political party to be the answer if we want to

00:34:21.680 influence change our greatest chance is at getting more involved in the current party whether it's

00:34:27.960 the NDP side or I know it's kind of funny because I think that this is why they're afraid and they're

00:34:35.700 they're freaking out because when we do our presentation we tell people get a political

00:34:41.020 party membership we could literally outnumber the NDP at their next convention and take over

00:34:47.260 the entire party we have the numbers and that's just how democracy works and I'm not saying that

00:34:53.500 that's what we're going to do but that's just that that's how democracy works and when we teach

00:35:00.000 people how to get democratically involved it influences huge amounts of change like let's say

00:35:07.340 at the the sass party convention had 650 people if we got even a small percentage of ug to get a

00:35:15.480 political party membership we could literally like get rid of scott mo and put a independent

00:35:20.300 type leader in there. Like we have the numbers to do that. It would be so easy. I'm not saying

00:35:27.060 that's what we're going to do. But the SAS party knows this. And Daniel Smith said this

00:35:32.100 in an interview with Vassie. She says, if we don't move on this, there's going to be a new

00:35:39.540 party form that will split the vote. And it will get in a worse situation. So they have no choice

00:35:45.880 to listen to the people because now like Albertans and Saskatchewan people are getting informed

00:35:50.820 exactly how you influence the change and before they just kind of figured they would never know

00:35:57.400 right you know what you know what's interesting I mean what you just said there like I did see

00:36:01.820 and I've got a clip of that interview that you were talking about Danielle Smith and Vashi

00:36:05.640 Capellos it's five minutes long I don't want to play it right now but she she doesn't say exactly

00:36:09.500 that um and you know she wouldn't answer like vashi kept asking her so why don't you just

00:36:17.380 quash it what if there is an independence movement there why don't you just quash it why don't you

00:36:22.100 just not allow it why don't you just say it's not on the table because that's not democracy that's

00:36:28.540 not representing the people in your writings even though danielle didn't actually say those words 0.97

00:36:34.200 She kind of, you know, wormed her way around it.

00:36:37.480 Now, what we've got in Saskatchewan is Scott Moe, the Saskatchewan party, and pretty much

00:36:42.540 all of his cabinet saying, no, no, we're not going to be at all interested in independence

00:36:47.280 or separating.

00:36:48.480 And of course, we know where the NDP stands.

00:36:50.560 But as you say, you can influence them.

00:36:53.420 You've done it before.

00:36:55.320 So so not me, but the people can.

00:36:58.140 Yeah, right.

00:36:58.800 Well, I mean, you and the organization and the people.

00:37:01.460 And so, you know, you got to get in their heads and say to them, look, if you guys don't at least start to listen and possibly come up with some solutions for this, then you're going to be in a world of hurt when the next election will turn.

00:37:17.620 I don't need to say it. They already know.

00:37:19.900 Okay, that's a good thing.

00:37:21.840 So what is the mechanism?

00:37:22.840 Because Smith just made it easier in Alberta for a citizen-led.

00:37:26.520 What is the mechanism?

00:37:27.500 okay the easiest mechanism is every single person who follows unified grassroots get a

00:37:33.860 political party membership show up at that convention get on boards right now mlas throughout

00:37:41.560 all of saskatchewan the ones that are sitting and the ones that didn't get elected their boards are

00:37:46.540 currently having election to elect their board and usually there's only 10 people who show up

00:37:51.840 at those election so you literally could take over every mla's board in the province in the

00:37:58.360 next like several months and i'm just saying this because this is how democracy works and once you

00:38:04.160 have majority of the boards you can call an emergency agm and either boot scott mo and i'm

00:38:10.740 not saying do this i'm just saying this is how the system is you could literally boot him or say if

00:38:16.960 you don't move on this separatism we're we're gonna find someone who will but they can do this

00:38:22.340 with the NDP too actually it would probably be easier to do this with the MDP the only difference

00:38:28.200 is when you get a membership you have to sign that you agree to their party priority and maybe

00:38:33.760 people would have a hard time doing that but I'm just saying this is how the system is when people

00:38:38.260 say the people's voice the people don't have a voice they do they just don't know where to have

00:38:43.980 that voice. Yeah, that's true. I'm going to throw up the results of the last election here. This is

00:38:49.460 from last year's Saskatchewan election. The Saskatchewan party, 471,087 total votes in the

00:38:56.620 entire province, of which the Saskatchewan party, that is low, considering I think there's probably

00:39:01.820 300,000 more eligible voters in the province than everybody else is under 18. But the Saskatchewan

00:39:07.960 Party gets 52 percent of the vote. The NDP gets under 40 percent. And then the rest goes to Sask

00:39:14.580 United, the Greens. I think the Buffalo Party was in there as well. So that Saskatchewan Party vote

00:39:23.500 is over 50 percent of the voting public in the province. And you would probably need all of them

00:39:31.440 to say we want out of Canada if the situation remains the same. So when we get back to the

00:39:37.060 mechanism and you say yeah it's obviously the people but is there something that can be done

00:39:40.840 in saskatchewan is is there room in government right now for a binding petition if you get a

00:39:47.140 certain amount of signatures you probably look into that yeah so so in saskatchewan there it's

00:39:52.600 a little bit different than alberta alberta i think they need 170 000 signatures to do a referendum

00:39:59.040 vote in saskatchewan we don't have a referendum vote option that's done by the the general public

00:40:06.600 we can't do a petition and get a referendum there's no option what we can do is do a petition

00:40:12.360 and if we get 15 which is about 122 000 give or take a little bit and then you can do a vote to

00:40:22.600 the public however that vote is non-binding so a plebiscite is non-binding the government doesn't

00:40:29.620 need to do anything about it even if they vote but it's not they don't you don't need to have

00:40:34.580 52% or 50, over 50% of the province, what you need is a certain percentage of the public to

00:40:43.220 actually go vote in the, in the plebiscite vote. And out of those, you need a majority vote.

00:40:50.640 So let's say only 51% go and vote and you need half of that. You might only need 25%

00:40:59.480 of the province to to affect the change technically but if it's non-binding the government could say

00:41:07.380 no no no we so this is the thing you know like when are canadian politicians and we had this

00:41:12.520 discussion last night on the show when are these canadian politicians going to understand

00:41:18.060 that what's happening right in front of their faces is there are grassroots movements all over

00:41:25.360 the country and they're happening on independent media so shows like yours mine frank vaughn i saw

00:41:30.800 that you you guys were doing a show together the other night of course you've got rebel and and

00:41:35.180 western standard and you've got juno news you got clyde do something all those youtubers jasmine lane

00:41:41.480 you know we're the ones who are pretty much now guiding the people and giving them the information

00:41:48.860 that they need it's it's not that we're trying to guide them in a certain direction we're just

00:41:52.540 showing them, look, this is what you're not going to see on social media or sorry, on the on the

00:41:57.500 left wing corporate media. But when are the politicians going to wake up to this is my

00:42:01.420 question. I mean, it seemed to me that Pierre Polyev, even though he's pretty good on social

00:42:06.300 media in terms of leaving little videos and showing videos of his rallies and all of that,

00:42:12.340 just refused to engage any interviewers who were willing to sit down and just talk to him about

00:42:18.180 whatever why are they scared of that because the the old school politicians are telling them to be

00:42:25.060 scared of it and they they they really suck at defining themselves before they're being defined

00:42:30.960 so they're so afraid of the media attacking them and labeling them and because it's been effective

00:42:38.620 when the media does that it's been effective and they they have failed at defining themselves ahead

00:42:44.300 of that if and i tweeted about this um i weighed in on the whole joe rogan and pierre not i saw

00:42:53.380 that on there i said the best thing that pierre could have done and this is if i was his advisor

00:42:58.520 this is what i would have advised him i would have said you should go for for several reasons but the

00:43:04.600 biggest reason there's going to be millions of clips they're going to get shared with canadians

00:43:09.680 and and Canadians who don't necessarily watch Joe Rogan but they might watch you or someone else

00:43:16.400 and you'll share a clip that was really awesome or good where it showed the human the human side

00:43:22.000 and the non-politician side of Pierre and that alone will reach a lot of voter base but you

00:43:28.340 don't just go and show up and do it and then let the media spin it whatever you want what he should

00:43:33.360 done is announce ahead of time and stated why he's going. Stated even if he had some concerns about

00:43:41.400 how the perception of what some Canadians would be, this is why I'm going on this podcast. I want

00:43:47.400 to increase better relationship with the Americans because right now we need more people convincing

00:43:52.660 Trump not to do the tariffs. So do all of these things the same way Danielle did this before she

00:43:57.820 went to the states she defined herself ahead of time and media had no choice to report on that

00:44:03.960 because they put out the statements ahead of time do you believe do you do you believe that

00:44:09.440 that the media in canada is still obligated to telling the truth just because unified grassroots

00:44:15.560 or whoever puts out a press release i i think they're going to try to not to but then we have

00:44:22.040 to hold them accountable when they don't but if you look at any report in the last week on what's

00:44:27.980 happening with the between the NDP and our organization it's completely different reporting

00:44:33.380 than before so yeah yeah I've read them and I haven't like left completely angry I'm like oh

00:44:41.340 they actually reported fairly on our organization they used my quotes oh great so so I think but

00:44:48.740 But how many politicians have you seen done that, do that?

00:44:53.160 In Canada?

00:44:54.840 They don't.

00:44:55.660 In the States, they do.

00:44:57.340 Yeah.

00:44:58.120 You know, Trump went on Joe Rogan, and he went on all the other big podcasts as well.

00:45:03.220 And I think that's probably what got him the presidency, to be completely honest.

00:45:09.560 You know, now, you know, we're in the middle of a trade war, so they say, with the Americans about these tariffs and whatnot.

00:45:17.500 So it could have been seen.

00:45:18.600 And the way they try to paint Danielle Smith is, well, she went to the United States.

00:45:22.060 She's Trump's best buddy. 1.00

00:45:24.000 She's a traitor. 1.00

00:45:25.080 That's actually what the NDP throws out there in the corporate media. 0.98

00:45:28.680 The general public sees that and they're like, she's fighting for us.

00:45:32.200 She's going to the trenches and fighting for us.

00:45:35.140 So only the far left that you'll never get vote for you or support you anyways,

00:45:40.180 will see it as a traitor type thing.

00:45:43.200 Like if you look at the voices, the reasonable people are not writing that.

00:45:46.820 it's the crazy the the loud crazies right that will never vote for daniel smith so let me ask 0.83

00:45:52.840 you then how did carney win this freaking election i mean here he they pulled the same thing they did 0.77

00:45:59.900 during covid they made all every canadian afraid that trump's going to come and take over canada

00:46:06.600 and and if carney's not the one to stand up to trump then it's going to be a conservative who's

00:46:14.420 just going to fold because he's just like Trump like that's the narrative that they pushed and

00:46:18.740 like even I have families still back home they were like hoodwinkled by this too they hated

00:46:26.500 Trudeau and they're like oh Carney's so great but they don't realize how extreme he is we're

00:46:34.420 gonna start seeing that as the Paul did you see his policy where he says I'll give you a classic

00:46:40.320 example and talked about this on on with Mark Mitchell on Rasmussen reports today he he puts

00:46:48.640 an announcement we're we're gonna go hard on immigration we're gonna cap immigration at five

00:46:53.320 percent so we're gonna like work on this problem of too much immigration we're gonna do you a favor

00:46:58.980 five percent is to over two million people a year it's more than what Trudeau was actually doing

00:47:05.140 But Canadians are so hoodwinkled, they don't even recognize what 5% means.

00:47:11.680 You want to see an average Kearney voter? 0.98

00:47:13.860 Here, look at this.

00:47:15.100 Yeah.

00:47:18.440 Kearney won, so.

00:47:20.700 Is that a good thing?

00:47:21.560 Yeah, yeah, it's a good thing.

00:47:23.360 Why did you vote for Kearney?

00:47:25.680 Because he makes most sense out of people, so.

00:47:30.100 What makes the most sense to you from his policies?

00:47:35.140 i don't know is there one specific policy that you were really uh interested in of his um

00:47:43.560 no okay thanks for your time all right bye-bye they didn't look at the policy they voted for

00:47:54.180 him because they were afraid of the alternative look at the ndp all going liberal we talked about

00:47:59.540 that yeah you see the polling it all went liberal because because it's not like jagmeet singh could

00:48:05.360 be a contender to dealing with trump he's so unserious so they know but the conservatives

00:48:10.720 did get a good deal not as much as the liberals but they did get a good deal of the ndp vote and

00:48:16.160 we saw that the young yeah oh yeah the the young people the young people who are working in the uh

00:48:21.500 in the industry's trades they were definitely on polyev side i saw myself in the lineups at uh at

00:48:27.720 some of the rallies. Not enough, obviously. I mean, the conservatives did better in this election

00:48:33.100 than they have in any other election before. Over 8 million votes. But the problem is, as you say,

00:48:38.000 the NDP collapsed. But those people out there, you know, should there be some kind of, this is a

00:48:44.920 conversation I had with Rob Boudelier the other night, the patriotic dad out of Alberta, who used

00:48:50.720 to be a member of APP. He works with the Alberta Prosperity Project. We were talking about Alberta

00:48:55.320 sovereignty and he said shouldn't there be some kind of regulations for who can vote right i mean

00:49:01.620 just because you're canadian like the left here well no no i mean think about this because if

00:49:06.480 you're canadian and you're 18 and over that's pretty much the only condition you need shouldn't

00:49:11.380 should you now rob goes a little bit more extreme than i do i mean he says well maybe you should

00:49:16.940 have to show that you're a net you know you're not a net taker from the government in other words

00:49:21.440 you're not on welfare or any sort of government social assistance and you're not paying back into

00:49:25.660 the system so you're obviously going to vote for the same government that's giving you all of that

00:49:29.760 money but if you're actually contributing more to the system than you're taking out of it then maybe

00:49:34.280 that's what he said what i think is a very simple test and that is name four candidates who are

00:49:41.700 running in your riding and the parties that they're with that would be it for me right because

00:49:48.700 that guy that clip that i just showed shows me that there's so many people in this country

00:49:55.340 and and you're right about the fear i agree with you about that but there's so many people

00:49:59.920 who absolutely have no idea what they're doing and they're the ones nadine i mean they've got

00:50:08.280 a big voice in deciding who's going to lead this country they're the ones who decide the election

00:50:13.500 actually if you look the left will have their clear people who are always going to be left

00:50:18.440 leaning left voting that who are very informed on the left and then you'll have those people on the

00:50:23.420 right who show up to political events political parties and stuff but it's the middle people that

00:50:28.600 decide the election now knowing this the the politicians should figure out how to reach those

00:50:37.360 people and usually they do that door knocking that like that's one of the best ways you can

00:50:43.880 reach them face to face that they get to know you they build a relationship with you

00:50:47.940 that's actually the best way to kind of lean a vote towards a person now that is a lot harder

00:50:54.280 in today's age especially if we if we um like it's harder in rural communities but rural usually goes

00:51:02.220 kind of the conservative side but in apartment buildings that's when it's harder they can't

00:51:07.980 really reach the apartment buildings and stuff so in the cities you see that a lot now they need to

00:51:14.580 figure out how to use left-leaning corporate media to their advantage.

00:51:20.200 They don't just lean left.

00:51:22.340 They are hard left.

00:51:23.640 Okay.

00:51:24.520 So the new term.

00:51:27.200 You got it. 0.90

00:51:28.640 So left-wing corporate media, they have to figure out how to use it to their advantage.

00:51:34.360 So for example, that Apple situation with Pierre went insanely viral.

00:51:40.380 A few times where Pierre went back and forth, he showed like, okay, maybe they're not being honest about something.

00:51:47.260 They're challenging the status quo.

00:51:49.660 And Trump did this phenomenally well.

00:51:53.340 He enraged the media.

00:51:55.760 They couldn't stop reporting on him.

00:51:57.880 Like when he did his whole McDonald's restaurant thing, that's what they talked about. 0.85

00:52:02.920 When Biden called MAGA supporters trash, Donald Trump shows up in a garbage truck with like a garbage vest and he did a speech and it was the funniest thing I've ever seen.

00:52:16.540 And he was like charming and charismatic in his speech and people saw like the fun side of him. 0.86

00:52:23.280 Like conservatives need to figure out how they can use this obsession to smear and twist the narrative to their advantage.

00:52:32.920 and but they're so afraid they're so afraid and they won't they won't do that but the left does

00:52:39.340 that like look look they they did um the video with uh mike myers which that kind of backfired

00:52:45.960 hard well the last couple of days it did i mean he's been named in the uh in the diddy trial yeah

00:52:53.700 yeah but that thing that that stuff works but you don't see conservatives doing that kind of stuff

00:53:00.640 And you know why? Because every conservatives that have risen up, they've distanced themselves

00:53:07.200 from like every conservative voice. They'll be like, we can't touch that. We can't every

00:53:12.960 conservative organization. Oh, we can't we can't touch that. And those conservative organization

00:53:18.460 never really grow into influencing or growing big enough that the public is like, OK, yeah,

00:53:25.080 join that uh pierre is going to speak at their event the only person who has i would say is

00:53:31.000 daniel smith and and the the us they team up with these because these are the boots on the ground

00:53:37.560 that will knock on the doors that you can't knock you know what's interesting is um how controlled

00:53:44.360 the conservative campaign was i got kicked out of the polyev rally in winnipeg as a known yeah

00:53:52.060 as a known agitator. And I was just standing there with my hands in my pockets, minding my

00:53:56.700 own business, waiting for my buddy to come out of the can. And a couple of security guys came out,

00:54:02.440 you're a no, they dragged me to the back and they called me a known agitator.

00:54:05.780 This was after I had talked to everybody standing in line to get into this rally on,

00:54:12.600 on my page, on the show. It was seen 70,000 times that video. And you know what other video

00:54:21.020 was seen even more than that was the video i did 10 minutes later when i said they kicked me out

00:54:26.320 for being a known agitator that is the problem like they're trying and ironically during that

00:54:33.120 particular rally there was a couple of actual known agitators in there calling pierre names

00:54:37.560 and they had to kick those two out but that's nothing i would have ever done i was there

00:54:42.700 they're covering it as as a journalist and so i was i was shocked by that there is video that

00:54:48.980 right blend is taken uh last couple of days in ottawa he's our buddy out there and so the

00:54:56.240 conservatives had this caucus meeting uh tuesday i think it was and so larry brock's walking out

00:55:01.500 jamil giovanni uh roman babber and pierre himself and they all just kept walking they wouldn't stop

00:55:08.040 and they wouldn't talk to the media they just put their heads down and put up these fake smiles and

00:55:14.460 thumbs up and why don't they stop and engage do they not understand the impact that the

00:55:23.620 independent media is having or is it just cowardice like you said earlier

00:55:27.360 i think it's bad advice advice if i'm honest and i i don't think things are going to change until

00:55:37.760 until they start

00:55:40.740 I don't think

00:55:43.040 Pierre necessarily doesn't want

00:55:45.020 to talk to them or doesn't

00:55:46.440 I think he's just been told

00:55:48.700 you can't seem too MAGA

00:55:50.300 you can't seem too for the

00:55:51.800 conservatives because you won't

00:55:54.980 win and the thing is

00:55:56.420 unfortunately I think this

00:55:57.900 loss will make that worse

00:56:00.140 like

00:56:00.800 and I

00:56:03.960 don't know if they'll learn from that

00:56:06.560 just look at how his campaign is going right now i'm hoping that he'll learn from that and kind of

00:56:13.080 engage more the the conservative movements and the conservative people more than just the

00:56:18.180 conservative party so but that's not the pierre that we had before like if you look at pierre

00:56:28.840 before he would have like challenged the media it's it's just like what it was during the election

00:56:34.880 they're like be careful you're gonna win this unless you screw it up it's almost like that's

00:56:38.220 what they kept telling you're gonna win this unless you screw it up so don't do any misstep

00:56:41.980 don't do any failures or or don't do and anytime there'd be a scandal instead of getting ahead of

00:56:48.660 it and and again sharing his message using that scandal like the the whole um the clock the

00:56:57.500 ticking clock biological clock that was all over the news he should have done a press release and

00:57:02.740 say look these are things that my wife tells me that she's hearing from women these are things

00:57:09.300 that i'm myself from women i use that term because that's how serious the the situation is

00:57:16.660 and if it offends someone i'm like he should have gotten ahead and he they don't and this is a huge

00:57:25.020 failure did you find it when he said biological clock did you find that offensive at all no it's

00:57:32.340 a reality i'm 40 years old my husband and i want to have another kid with the the the clock is

00:57:38.020 taking you got four and like you think four is enough four is four is not enough well i have four

00:57:45.060 but i have two with my my now husband um he he would have 10 if if i was willing to go through

00:57:53.020 that over again but we just we feel like you know what someone has to reproduce for one

00:57:58.740 so don't give me a hard time you should be supporting people like me i'm only asking i

00:58:05.840 mean like because i thought that how is but i'm a man right so i look at that biological clock okay

00:58:11.500 like i've heard about that my entire life i've heard women say to me my biological clock is

00:58:16.320 moving like when i was a much younger man it's a term we women use constantly yeah so why when he

00:58:21.780 said it was it all of a sudden such a bad thing because they spun it that way they spun it that

00:58:26.620 way yeah yeah and and unfortunately they didn't they didn't get ahead of it and like we we on the 1.00

00:58:34.540 online kind of defended especially a lot of women came forward but then you'll have the left leaning

00:58:39.900 they're so coordinated too you can tell they're coordinated it's like they have like a little

00:58:44.620 group chat with all like the loud like leftist voice and they'll put it on there and then it'll

00:58:50.060 just like be a parrot parrot parrot and this is human psychology you know when things get repeated

00:58:55.540 over and over again yeah you start believing it and they the left uses this so so good like they

00:59:03.240 do they're they're phenomenal at it who was that ex-liberal uh climate minister they called her

00:59:09.900 climate barbie oh i forget her name blonde yeah yeah yeah i know who you're talking about

00:59:16.400 anyway there was a video of her saying that very same thing she was at a bar in newfoundland like

00:59:22.180 years ago drinking no not helena mckenna mckenna what's her first name katherine mckenna yeah

00:59:31.540 looking at comments thanks you guys and so um she's drinking what is the newfoundland screech

00:59:37.820 has a couple of screeches she's saying it's okay if you just say it enough they're gonna believe

00:59:42.980 it yeah and louder they say louder and repeat over and over the biggest lie in the world and

00:59:48.140 they'll believe you. So why would people believe that Mark Carney, a billionaire banker who

00:59:55.660 didn't disclose his personal financial holdings before putting them into a blind trust, why would

01:00:02.220 people in Canada believe that that guy, especially after what we saw the other day when he was down

01:00:07.140 there, sitting there like a, like a scolded kid, why would they believe that Mark Carney was any

01:00:13.760 better to deal with donald trump than pierre polyev i i just think it's it's the whole he's

01:00:21.660 he's not a conservative he he's more supportive of the democrat so maybe he'll he'll kind of push

01:00:28.380 back more i don't know but like what was even more sickening is just see him see see them say

01:00:34.280 how great of a job he's done i got you see that online they're like oh he did so phenomenal he

01:00:40.920 stood for canada well that's what the left-wing corporate media is saying nadine great job mark

01:00:48.360 what he sat down he said you've been a transformative president who's been working

01:00:52.620 on behalf of the working people of this country and i just mr president mr president and what

01:00:58.320 what did trump call him mark like dude got owned down there trump said right in front of his face

01:01:08.240 and right in front of all the media when the media asked him is there any chance of you ever

01:01:12.240 dropping the tariffs against canada immediate answer was nope why not and he says that's just

01:01:19.620 how it is that was it and carney tried to get in there on that too late next question he got owned

01:01:26.540 did you see how many times carney was like and he didn't talk if that was me i i would have cut in

01:01:33.820 and i said uh mr president i would have cut in and and said something and i like not i mean that's

01:01:41.960 something we haven't discussed yet i mean i i wouldn't be so blunt about it as as you say

01:01:46.960 canada's not for sale mr carney and and what did trump say back to him well you know nothing's

01:01:52.260 forever right so the same thing with the tariffs the bottom line is the guy is probably the best

01:01:59.020 negotiator in the world trump i mean i've read his book the art of the deal and i've been going

01:02:04.720 through carney's book and i will tell you that trump is going to own this guy just like he's

01:02:12.440 owned all of the wokies since he's been in office for the past what 80 to 100 days they haven't got

01:02:19.460 a chance and that's what we elected thank god it's only a minority situation and possibly 1.00

01:02:25.600 through some miracle we can get rid of them in the next year to 18 months so that we can go ahead

01:02:31.220 and do this again and the lessons hopefully the conservatives learn some lessons hopefully they

01:02:35.740 watch shows like this nadine you know and and they see the people talking not just the two of us but

01:02:42.580 look at the look at the comments you guys like look at what people are saying this is your base

01:02:49.340 and you need to listen to them if you ever want to win government in this country and that's the

01:02:55.860 thing like i'm not even a ppc or i'm a cpc like supporter yeah like i am i i like the the mp that

01:03:04.180 i have in in saskatchewan here mine is kelly block i i'm actually like friends with her like

01:03:10.780 i knew them before i started doing all of this so i'm not even someone who wishes someone else

01:03:17.960 was like running against them or winning I actually think that they would be really good

01:03:26.920 I also think that they are doing big mistakes and I think it's costing them the election

01:03:32.980 so and I'm not saying that as someone who again has a bone to pick this is someone who has had

01:03:42.140 training after training on how to write campaigns how to get ahead of messaging how how to sway

01:03:48.140 public opinion i mean we did that masterfully in saskatchewan during covid we we had like

01:03:55.500 strategic things we were doing that actually worked and were effective so and i'm not like

01:04:03.460 your typical like old school politician again i'm a former lefty so i know what they do i know how

01:04:08.800 they work and they need to change their ways or it's going to keep being the same

01:04:16.700 i will i will give i will give pierre credit his social media game was top notch

01:04:25.180 his videos were really good um like very engaging very informative but again they were still

01:04:34.660 political videos i wanted to see like the heart he had done a video when he was well he started

01:04:40.740 bringing he started bringing anna out a lot in the last couple of weeks which was better

01:04:44.780 yeah but now i mean she she walked out of the caucus meeting with him the other day and now

01:04:49.920 people are starting to say what's this yoko ono right i don't think it's a happy medium

01:04:55.460 yeah the remember the video where he there's two videos that come to mind where you like see the

01:05:02.360 human side of it where they're leaving a an event and he's carrying her because her feet are so sore

01:05:08.700 and and she's saying how much she's been on her feet all day like that was the kind of stuff that

01:05:14.560 people want to share like this is a human side they want to see the real them not the what what's

01:05:19.660 your politician uh image or or that one where they're doing a christmas drink and you can see

01:05:28.120 that she's runs the show at home because she's kind of running the show in the kitchen right

01:05:33.040 with the the drink so it's kind of funny you see that dynamic that you don't necessarily see in

01:05:37.940 public and it's like a dynamic that all married couple can can kind of identify with a little bit

01:05:44.360 like so that kind of stuff I think they didn't show that which is what Joe Rogan would have been

01:05:51.180 it's a more calm not scripted just off the cuff you don't know what questions are going to be

01:05:58.060 And you're just having a conversation like you and I.

01:06:01.020 Yeah.

01:06:01.420 And they don't do that.

01:06:03.820 That's the key.

01:06:05.560 Yeah.

01:06:06.560 It needs to be authenticity.

01:06:08.720 It needs to be authentic.

01:06:10.580 Yeah.

01:06:11.180 Right from the heart.

01:06:12.560 And there's one video he did too that was phenomenal that even I wanted to share was

01:06:17.480 he was walking in his old neighborhood.

01:06:19.420 He was in front of his house and he's talking about what it was like to live there.

01:06:23.420 And you could actually like feel it and identify with it.

01:06:26.340 And it was coming from the heart.

01:06:28.060 but then then it became this these slogans these say the same music and

01:06:34.220 yeah yeah yeah build the homes right all that you know and he was talking in slogans a lot as well

01:06:43.300 so you're right we got to see that he's got a special needs child doing so good at first like

01:06:48.340 in the restaurant eating the bacon while he's eating he's saying how everything's gone up

01:06:53.200 that was great video but it's all even that part and i understand what you're saying because i saw

01:06:59.260 one of those myself and i went wow that that wasn't bad but then the slogan start again

01:07:03.300 and he is acting through all of that as well maybe just acting as himself but it is part

01:07:10.980 partly scripted on a joe rogan or even on a shadow davis show you're not you're talking just about

01:07:18.800 your life like i go all over the place in topics with people when we're talking and i can go as

01:07:25.980 long as three hours four hours if the conversation's really good and people are digging it

01:07:30.720 right and so you go on and you do that kind of a show and it's a game changer as you said earlier

01:07:38.740 you pointed that out right he like i said he did do a couple of podcasts he did one with our friend

01:07:44.960 jasmine yeah jasmine but jasmine like she's she's 28 years old and she's she's not quite versed in

01:07:53.080 in this yet she's new at it right she's been in media for a few years i don't want to diss her

01:07:57.880 because i like her and i think she's going places she's very talented but it could have been like

01:08:02.200 maybe you find a few people who have been around the block you know who can sit down and have that

01:08:08.400 conversation with you and just have it right it's not about sitting there and reading questions from

01:08:14.700 a piece of paper no it's about having the conversation and and and showing who you are

01:08:22.100 in that conversation without pressure and without judgment just have it man like answer what is in

01:08:28.640 your heart that may have been the thing that was lacking plus the fact that you know he was

01:08:35.540 writing the uh for the what a year and a half of the carbon tax election and then it changed when

01:08:42.080 trump started announcing these tariffs and and he didn't pivot in time and he let the liberals have

01:08:47.760 that ground and that was the media played right along with that too right oh this is going to be

01:08:55.160 the worst tragedy and and carney talking about what another crisis and how we're going to all

01:09:02.040 be paying the price and good lord i mean i think the direction he went to was a mistake too because

01:09:09.380 he pushed the fear which just pushed more people to to carny if he had said you know what like

01:09:15.820 we've had relation a strong relationship with the u.s let's work on building that relation

01:09:21.720 like the the economic impact of pushing back or doing counter tariffs is only going to be worse

01:09:27.880 for canada like he should he should have used that messaging from the get-go not just bashing trump

01:09:33.840 over and over and i think that was a mistake too because in that specific aspect he pushed

01:09:41.800 the fear and instead of hope he might have pushed hope in other avenue but in the one that was the

01:09:46.740 biggest avenue for for on the minds of most voters that that he wanted to bring to his side

01:09:54.140 he didn't show what the alternative could be like yeah yeah like mark mitchell today he said

01:10:02.920 imagine if he had gone to the u.s met with trump and said you know what we're going to work together

01:10:09.360 in removing some of this we're going to work together in in getting having a stronger

01:10:16.160 relationship between canada and the u.s so we can become stronger against the world like imagine

01:10:20.740 had he done that yeah like people would have been oh that there's a chance the terrace will come down

01:10:27.220 well he got on track i think the last couple of weeks when he started talking about canada needs

01:10:34.620 to be able to negotiate from a position of strength and the liberals have brought it down

01:10:39.580 this road for 10 years and we're weak right now and we have no that was good messaging i don't

01:10:44.260 think that there's any leader in canada who can take on donald trump in a negotiation

01:10:51.840 we just don't have the cards well we don't have the the cards you're right their economy is over

01:10:58.860 10 times larger than ours we have no military to speak of compared to the americans we we don't

01:11:06.480 have anything to bargain with and what surprised me the most out of out of this whole thing was

01:11:15.040 that this whole elbows up thing worked with so many people who thought we're we're actually going

01:11:19.440 to be able to fight the americans are you guys out of your mind how they were laughing at canadians

01:11:27.300 with the they they it made a mockery of canadians the elbows up thing yeah it really did yeah but

01:11:34.900 i i compared it you know those those two dogs from the bugs bunny cartoons you got the big

01:11:39.240 bulldog spike and then the other the little guy forget his name i think what are you gonna do

01:11:44.840 the big bulldog with a derby hat just kind of smacks him aside. 0.69

01:11:51.080 That's the Americans.

01:11:52.620 And we're the little dog going like that.

01:11:55.840 Right?

01:11:56.400 Like we don't have a chance against them in anything.

01:12:00.460 And,

01:12:01.020 and for,

01:12:01.540 for anybody to think that we were going to go and fight them and get a deal on

01:12:05.760 our terms completely and totally delusional.

01:12:11.180 We do have a lot to offer.

01:12:13.880 I mean,

01:12:14.580 we've got natural resources in saskatchewan you guys have got potash and uranium and oil and

01:12:19.960 agriculture manitoba's got rare earth you guys have got rare earth minerals as well alberta's

01:12:24.920 got oil and gas and you know all kinds of technology happening across the prairies as well

01:12:30.440 i mean there's a lot to offer to the united states and i don't know what donald trump's

01:12:35.720 end game is there's a lot of different philosophies on it out there like he wants this for a reason

01:12:40.660 what is it? Mark thinks he wants Alberta and Saskatchewan

01:12:44.240 I think he does too. I think that that is going to be the first

01:12:48.100 It would be two red states, two Republican

01:12:52.600 states, four more Senate seats that will break the 0.66

01:12:56.600 balance. It wouldn't shock me if that was the case

01:12:59.700 He doesn't want Ontario because that would be a blue state

01:13:04.600 same with Manitoba and D.C. probably as well, depending on how they carve

01:13:08.700 up the voting regions too right yeah all the electoral districts would change as well so

01:13:13.140 who knows they'd probably gerrymander it back to the way it was before before the liberals actually

01:13:18.920 got a hundred thousand extra votes in pierre polyev's carlton riding so he lost his own

01:13:24.980 there was a lot of gerrymandering in in that but what are your thoughts on i've been trying to

01:13:33.860 kind of figure out there's a lot of still being counted where they're the the conservatives were

01:13:39.420 winning by like 300 ballots and all of a sudden they disqualify 400 and it's a liberal riding

01:13:44.960 have you seen that i've seen that in bc there were thousands of ballots that weren't returned to the

01:13:52.200 electoral offices on time 5 000 of them or something but elections canada says well they

01:13:58.200 were for ridings all across the country like there was one in halifax well what were the

01:14:03.100 ballots for halifax doing in british columbia first of all and how could there be just that

01:14:09.240 lack of awareness that these ballots stayed in somebody's office as opposed to actually going

01:14:15.700 to be counted how does that happen and how does the elections canada just issue a statement and

01:14:21.280 that's the end of it and why is the left-wing corporate media not reporting on it you know

01:14:25.980 we've heard all kinds of stories i've heard it and then there's the whole thing too where they're

01:14:32.040 saying if anybody brings question to the election integrity that they're being offered money by

01:14:39.420 russia russians yeah i heard that from the northern uh exposure guys what the northern

01:14:45.740 perspective a couple and yeah jasmine lane was have wrote something there's a lot of really

01:14:52.180 sketch stuff but but it i call it team black yeah i know there's team black that just comes

01:14:59.900 tries to kind of manipulate morph and whatever i i do expect team black to come out to try to

01:15:06.320 this disparage or dissuade or or kind of ruin the movement that's happening in saskatchewan and

01:15:13.320 alberta and like people have told me nadine you you have a hard time trusting people and i'm like

01:15:20.360 yeah because i've dealt with team black before that i've done this before like we had we had

01:15:25.280 that happen like attempts takeovers and stuff like that so what a beautified grassroots yeah

01:15:31.320 yeah oh i didn't know that oh wait a minute i did know that the manitoba guy was a bit of a

01:15:36.720 yeah but not just that create a website that was just like ours called united grassroots and

01:15:43.000 pretending to be us like we've had so many things so so now we're like really careful we've kind of

01:15:48.940 had to lock tight our organization so now unless the entire board is on board with with kind of

01:15:56.500 going in one direction it just doesn't happen so we've kind of made it more secure in a way but

01:16:03.140 yeah it's i don't want to seem like paranoid all the time i understand exactly what you're saying

01:16:15.060 i mean i've had to deal with team black over and over and over again many of us have to different

01:16:20.780 extent right even like trying to influence me in certain directions and and some of it like it

01:16:27.500 worked and i i realized like once i was in it i'm like oh i shouldn't i shouldn't be taking part in

01:16:33.700 this and it wasn't like anything bad or illegal but just like trying to pull me to political stuff

01:16:39.340 when i should be completely non-partisan that's why i'm so dead set right now i'm not going to

01:16:44.540 promote any political party i'll promote the parties that are currently in government not as

01:16:49.760 in promote them to for people to vote for them but promote to get involved in the current systems we

01:16:54.660 have so but yeah even that like i've i've kind of gone back into some of the conversations that

01:17:00.240 i've had i'm like oh i was totally getting manipulated there and it's difficult to know

01:17:06.020 when you're in it oh yes until you take a step you take a step back and gain some perspective

01:17:10.760 and maybe it takes a day or two but you see it after a while and once you you kind of just fall

01:17:17.480 i say follow the holy spirit even then i knew something didn't quite feel right and and then

01:17:22.940 once once you kind of make that realization you correct course and i mean

01:17:27.320 when you're running an organization like i am or in a position that i am you're going to make

01:17:33.720 mistakes you're not always going to say the right thing you might be too short with someone if you're

01:17:39.060 like so overwhelmed and someone makes demands of you that you have absolutely no no time to do

01:17:44.500 i've kind of had to realize like there are um distractions that are sent your way to try to

01:17:53.060 disrupt what you're doing so i've learned to when someone sounds crazy they likely are crazy

01:17:59.540 if they keep obsessing then block them yeah when they show you who they are believe them right yeah

01:18:06.400 believe them so so what are the next moves that you're you unless you don't want to talk about

01:18:13.040 them because then it would give the game away but what exactly is the next step moving forward here

01:18:17.840 with unified grassroots is it going to be a door-knocking campaign do you need volunteers

01:18:22.080 you need some more funds what what exactly is the is the goal well we need more funds i think

01:18:29.040 we would love to have billboards out there so people would know we would love to do like ads

01:18:35.360 like facebook ads even like that that can reach a whole ton of people we can reach our clientele

01:18:41.240 you can actually target facebook ads quite well but all of these things cost money we're we're

01:18:47.640 planning on doing 15 town halls throughout the province the first one is already scheduled for

01:18:52.280 for may 25th in saskatoon i say april land park i just need to finalize that i've signed the

01:18:59.820 contract we just haven't given the deposit yet so until that's like for sure it's happening on the

01:19:06.240 25th that'll be the first and we're going to do 15 throughout the province and hopefully hearing

01:19:10.960 okay what are the questions people have what are things that making them hesitant what are things

01:19:15.080 that they're super that's pushing them to want separation like we want to really hear from them

01:19:19.880 we're just trying to figure out how do we do that so it doesn't become like a rant fest where the

01:19:24.660 crazies get the mic because there's always a crazy or two that won't don't want to release the mic

01:19:30.020 but we do want to hear people i know how to deal with that it's it's pretty simple it's pretty

01:19:34.880 simple you just make sure that you've got no you got a big dude standing right next to the person

01:19:39.600 holding the mic in the audience right because what what happens all the time and we totally

01:19:44.640 respect that everybody wants to be able to voice their own opinion we get it but we need to sometimes

01:19:49.060 get through 30 different questions in the matter of an hour and a half before people start getting

01:19:54.580 up and leaving right so you've got to try and limit the time that people have on the microphone

01:19:58.860 when they try to take it in their own hand you take it back from them and if they're going on

01:20:04.200 too long then you just have to kind of whisper in their ear without embarrassing them okay maybe 0.98

01:20:08.580 it's time to wrap it up here and if they're if they're one of those fringers that you were just

01:20:13.020 talking about that's the big dude in the back with the facial expression that's what we say ahead of

01:20:19.400 time we're going to take the mic if it goes too long but but the thing is and that's absolutely

01:20:24.360 fair some people don't you know in the moment because they're very passionate we totally

01:20:28.840 understand the passion that people have right yeah yeah i think what we're going to do though

01:20:34.300 there's a lot of people too that won't won't want to take the mic but will want to tell us stuff

01:20:39.400 and usually sometimes those are the ones with the best ideas you got to stick around not only do you

01:20:46.020 have to do these you know this is the thing right i've been down this road as well so you do a two

01:20:51.640 hour presentation and then you're hanging around for another hour or longer after that to talk to

01:20:57.720 the people who are a little too shy to come on the mic yeah and you're right they do sometimes have

01:21:01.900 the best ideas they don't even realize it and it's not even like to go ahead yeah we're hoping

01:21:07.460 we're gonna have like some i think what we're gonna do to try to avoid that to try to avoid

01:21:12.360 for media to come and clip the most insane statement or question. I think what we're going

01:21:19.260 to do, because we do want to hear from the people, I think we're going to have an option where they

01:21:23.220 can do it with their phones and just fill it out and send it to us. And then we'll grab some of

01:21:28.240 those questions and answer them on stage. Because Jordan Peterson does that. I don't know if you've

01:21:34.660 been to one of his shows. Anybody can ask a question and they'll answer them. But that way

01:21:40.200 we'll get all the data from the people who don't want to grab the mic all the data from the people

01:21:44.580 who may if if they get seen saying something could affect their jobs stuff like that and then we still

01:21:51.720 get to hear from the people that that might be the avenue we're going to go to just because it's so

01:21:57.260 important that we don't get defined by the media in this so it's not necessarily we don't want to

01:22:03.660 just everything be the way we want we want to hear from them but at the same time we know what

01:22:10.560 media is going to do so so yeah so we'll see we'll see and it's obviously different if it's

01:22:19.660 Saskatoon versus a small town of like Humboldt like where there will be 100 people or 200 people

01:22:25.420 but who knows like we have room for 400 people but we may have a thousand people show up

01:22:30.560 so we're going to be putting it up on it well we've had that happen before i know so yeah we're

01:22:37.280 we're going to put it on our website with an rsvp so we can get a gauge and if it let's say there's

01:22:42.260 500 rsvp we're going to try to get a bigger hall from prairie land park so so yeah we'll see we'll

01:22:48.800 see what so the plan is the town halls let's hear directly from people so we know we can gauge okay

01:22:54.640 where's the sentiment is it's 51st state is it is it form its own country is it a republic is

01:23:00.640 it staying within Canada because we're hoping there's going to be people who are going to come

01:23:04.280 who don't want it to happen and we want to know why do you think that that Mark Carney knowing

01:23:10.040 what you know about him and you know a lot about him as do I do you think that he is going to live

01:23:18.440 up to any of

01:23:20.420 Danielle Smith's demands. She's got

01:23:22.260 10 out there. And that means

01:23:24.280 getting rid of Bill C-69, the 0.87

01:23:26.180 No More Pipelines bill, and the No More Tankers

01:23:28.360 bill. That means getting rid of the 0.98

01:23:30.000 caps on producing energy. And this applies

01:23:32.280 to Saskatchewan as well, because there's definitely

01:23:34.260 oil there. Do you

01:23:36.320 think that he would even consider any of that,

01:23:38.200 knowing what we know? He's a net-zero zealot.

01:23:41.040 He was the United Nations

01:23:42.200 climate guru.

01:23:45.800 So if he

01:23:46.360 doesn't, that's it. Game over.

01:23:48.440 this is what I predict is going to happen. I think he's going to talk a big talk,

01:23:54.920 talk like he's going to do that and try to squash the momentum of the separatist movement.

01:24:02.880 He's going to sound very reasonable when he talks. I think this is what's going to happen,

01:24:08.180 but eventually his core values and the values of his party won't let him go in that direction.

01:24:14.200 so I think in about six seven eight months from now the people will realize oh he's not going to

01:24:20.540 do it so now we need to fight so but we're not going to stop we're going to keep gathering the

01:24:25.760 people up until so that when that happens we're ready to go that's what I think is going to happen

01:24:31.680 I could be wrong I'd be pleasantly surprised if he meets all the demands I don't think he will

01:24:36.620 I'd like to see similar demands come from Scott Mo if I'm honest I don't know if we will but

01:24:43.820 again the EGM is coming up this September so there's going to be let's say thousands of people

01:24:51.340 get memberships today let's just say let's just say hypothetically that sends a strong message

01:24:58.080 out there unifiedgrassroots.com go to the website and uh look around check it out what do people

01:25:08.220 need to see what are the top two things people need to see on the website maybe uh well if

01:25:12.400 they're from saskatchewan i highly recommend they sign the petition um if they want to volunteer

01:25:17.500 we're going to have teams probably to do signature drive door knocks and stuff eventually because

01:25:22.880 the petition is just for the plebiscite if we want to get over 50 for separation we're going

01:25:29.520 to need to have massive campaigns and like a hundred thousand people working towards this

01:25:35.560 to answer the questions people have we'd love to do flyer drives like that would be like a

01:25:41.360 right now if we got like 20 000 dumped into account our account we could do a flyer drive

01:25:47.080 throughout all of saskatchewan that that'd be super effective but facebook advertising will

01:25:54.120 will absolutely help you instagram will absolutely help you i'm not so sure about x i don't see too

01:25:59.640 many ads on x but you know does tiktok do ads like whatever you get it out there right because

01:26:05.480 it's cheaper on social media too it's not nearly as expensive as making a flyer or putting up

01:26:10.200 billboards i agree with you that those things probably should be done as well but you've got

01:26:13.940 to live within your means too so yeah if we if we did like a flyer drive though it would get coffee

01:26:19.200 row talking everywhere that's what we're gonna need yeah we're gonna need to be the discussion

01:26:25.340 of every coffee row in saskatchewan so all right cool thank you nadine for coming on tonight so

01:26:31.280 nice to see your face it's nice to see you too all right see you again soon all right

01:26:36.400 nadine ness you guys of uh unified grassroots man that probably the most introspective

01:26:43.580 conversation that she and i have had she's been on quite a bit these last few years and

01:26:49.140 always a treat to have her on and have discussions like this with her

01:26:53.400 unifiedgrassroots.com again so keeping in line with the bombshell that was dropped by

01:27:01.620 james o'keefe of omg o'keefe media group yesterday tonight on the extension because

01:27:10.220 the bomb he dropped yesterday was the dude talking about how prince andrew was in fact

01:27:16.320 sleeping with teenage girls that's out there from one of prince andrew's best friends

01:27:24.820 or longest acquaintances, whatever.

01:27:28.240 And that was videotaped

01:27:30.400 and that was put out all over social media yesterday.

01:27:34.520 And then, of course, today,

01:27:36.380 Pizzagate kept coming up again and again and again.

01:27:39.360 Now, social media, some social media,

01:27:42.460 will tell you that that was all debunked a long time ago

01:27:45.400 and why is it coming up again?

01:27:47.380 No, it was never debunked.

01:27:49.760 It just wasn't.

01:27:51.120 so tonight on the extension on shadow davis.com for the all-access nighthawks we've got part

01:27:58.760 four and part five and the reason for this is because this is probably the best piece that i

01:28:07.460 have ever seen on that particular subject done by janet osbard and the fall of the cabal part

01:28:14.060 part four and part five of the original series not the conclusion and not the sequel part four

01:28:20.520 and part five of the fall of the cabal is coming up tonight on the extension on shadow davis.com

01:28:26.880 and if you're not a member i suggest signing up and becoming one so you can join us as well you

01:28:32.760 might want to join a matter of fact you will want to join so you can be part of the conversation

01:28:36.480 the telegram group it's shadow at night community right so look for that in the search of telegram

01:28:42.980 and i know the telegram is not exactly user-friendly if you're new at it you just got

01:28:46.740 to figure it out won't take you long a couple of minutes to stay with it the shadow at night n-i-t-e

01:28:53.020 community on telegram there's like 600 people uh who are members of that group and we all have

01:28:59.480 great discussions while we're watching all of this stuff and uh talking about all of this stuff

01:29:05.540 in the extension on the website also we have a winner of either a shadow at night cap or a shadow

01:29:13.300 at night mug to announce at the beginning of the extension which is coming up in just a couple of

01:29:18.420 minutes on shadowdavis.com so we'll see you there night hawks in a couple of minutes and for the

01:29:23.260 rest of you guys no show tomorrow night i'll be back on monday night at eight o'clock central for

01:29:28.520 another one unless something major happens and i have to come on i love you all i appreciate you

01:29:35.300 all and i will talk to you again very very soon good night

01:29:43.300 guitar solo

01:30:13.300 We'll be right back.

The Shadoe Davis Show - May 09, 2025

May 8th⧸2025- Guest： Nadine Ness....Could Saskatchewan Separate Even Before Alberta？

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