00:17:15.240So, again, let's just go back to, you know, I hope, let's hope, let's hope for public that, but that adds into the anxiety, obviously, that we're feeling at the farm from the video that you've seen tonight.
00:17:27.180Yeah, video of RCMP show up, we're all on edge, because we're trying to protect what's right. And then we're in this weird, unique situation where we're like, I've seen it over and over again, when the UK and different situations where they just go and they lock out the gates and they lock out the farmers,
00:17:44.400and you lose all rights to be in there with your animals and protect them and as you know i'm sure
00:17:49.380shadow you're a smart man that canadian or and all agricultural farmers are the experts in their
00:17:56.460industry so we're an experts we're an expert in ostrich there's experts all over the world in
00:18:02.160cattle there's experts in chickens and poultry we are not consulting with our true experts
00:18:08.380we are allowing organizations like canadian food inspection agency to make these decisions for us
00:18:13.780And it's going to be a real, if we don't look into the future and they're not looking into the future, we have, we're going to make one of the biggest mistakes since COVID-19.
00:18:24.600You've mentioned on several social media posts in the past couple of months about farmers in general, not just the ostrich farm, but definitely farmers.
00:18:35.720We're talking about pigs and sheep and whatever farmers we happen to have out there who are raising livestock of any kind.
00:18:43.780have you managed to consult with any of these other folks and are they going through the same
00:18:49.560kinds of things yeah i don't we don't even have to go look for them they're finding us now they're
00:18:55.020scared they know not they they are scared of the organization that they're supposed to be
00:18:59.740consulting with regarding uh infectious disease because they know that if they have they know we
00:19:05.680know as experts you know you isolate the sick you dispose of the dead properly you you heal them
00:19:12.940and then you have herd immunity your younger are going to be healthier because you have mamas and
00:19:17.860and mamas are mamas that have herd immunity are going to develop that immunity gets passed into
00:19:22.960your young but we're eradicating everything and that's really scary because if we don't look into
00:19:29.680the future and we don't see that our diverse uh genetic diversity is being lost that we're big
00:19:37.080pharma is going to win, right? Because if we everything gets killed, and animals outside pose
00:19:43.400a threat, because we're not the migratory birds are allowed to keep surviving without there's
00:19:48.300being a middle ground. We have we have one side, which is Canadian Food Inspection Agency, one
00:19:54.800side, which is the wildlife, there's nothing in the middle, even though the wildlife is what's
00:20:01.160disinfecting our farmers so um we need something down the middle and but farmers are finding us
00:20:07.540they're scared we're trying to create an association united farmers association
00:20:11.940trying to give a safe place for people to fall back on um they're we're educating them with policy
00:20:19.020we are educating them on start testing your animals keep a log like if you don't want to
00:20:25.100call them all when can you know do it before canadian food inspection agency shows up at your
00:20:29.000door have all your own results how have all of that before they threaten you six months in jail
00:20:33.840how many how many other farmers have been harassed by cfia that you know of many oh my gosh it's
00:20:41.560across canada and across the states is who we're getting contacted by and i'm not going to name
00:20:46.660names because i know that they're scared but it is multiple and people this should alarm people
00:20:53.440we had one farmer and this is how they work they um i asked him so he had uh like 70 000
00:21:01.440animals killed and i said do you have your results i said do you do you have your lab results no
00:21:08.220do you have you been paid out compensation nope about all of his animals are gone and so i was
00:21:16.580like okay can we get your lab results ask the canadian food inspection agency for your lab
00:21:21.500results so the farmers are doing this because they're trusting these organizations that they
00:21:26.220have to but they they eradicated they killed all their own their animals without even knowing
00:21:32.340seeing seeing proof that their animals had something but let's go backwards again you don't
00:21:40.560need um you don't need a test to they don't need a test to kill all your animals it's all based they
00:21:47.760can come on based on suspicion to your property, kill all your animals and you have nothing to do0.94
00:21:53.940about it. You can't do anything. You know, it's interesting. I, I sent Katie a little story
00:22:00.160earlier today on messenger. And I noticed this last night and I was going to post a video about
00:22:05.600it, but I thought, Nope, I'm going to wait until tonight when Katie comes on the show, but I live
00:22:10.900by a creek and there's a walking path next to this creek and in this creek and just outside of this
00:22:18.260creek there are not going to say hundreds but definitely dozens of wild geese who made a home
00:22:25.060there and they interact with humans on a regular basis they're walking the path humans are walking
00:22:31.720the path riding their bikes down there you get real close to these geese now how are we to know
00:22:39.060that these geese aren't carrying the dreaded h5n1 avion flu right how how does cfia not know that
00:22:48.140well we we would have seen a dead bird we would have had it reported somebody would have spotted
00:22:53.000well you want to know what this is an area where you might not see that a lot of high bull rushes
00:22:58.340very long creek a lot of deserted areas so where are they with their shotguns getting rid of all
00:23:04.980these geese from human contact right i mean it just seems so arbitrary and that makes me think
00:23:10.060this is this is a very disingenuous enterprise that these people are are uh doing with you know
00:23:16.860universal ostrich farm because they're adamant they are adamant that your farm and the ostriches
00:23:23.700pose a risk even though everything is clear and there's no bird flu pandemic anyhow and just
00:23:30.120remember they're not retesting they haven't been here since february 26th um they're not retesting
00:23:35.620our animals they have never done a water sample they've never done a earth like environmental
00:23:41.020soil sample we are going off two controversial pcr tests ran over 30 i'm going to just say over
00:23:48.78035 to be because i know that that's for sure but over 35 cycles the farmer which means it could be
00:23:55.320anything over 35 cycles and we learned that you're in covet didn't we the farmer the farmer that i
00:24:00.840said that he didn't even have his lab results yet it was pcr tests it it is the same thing every time
00:24:07.080pcr tests ran at 39 cycles um and then they and then they killed all those animals so then we're
00:24:14.260so like where does this stop where does the you know and education and awareness we're just trying
00:24:20.500to just educate people uh we've wanted to work with canadian food inspection agency from day one
00:24:25.960offering them our h5n1 antibodies and a solution to bridging the wildlife and the you know on our
00:24:32.060livestock came up with solutions and saying let's use our antibodies to use fogging stations or
00:24:37.360eating stations for migratory birds to start treating the migratory birds that are the true
00:24:42.040spreaders of the disease or the virus um it's all fallen on deaf ears it is extremely concerning we
00:24:49.380are again just reminding your audience we are uh isolated due to our geographical religion or
00:24:56.340region all in ourselves so we're 135 kilometers away from a major city uh we do we're flightless
00:25:03.720we're under quarantine and the appropriate people are going in and handling these animals
00:25:08.900another really cool tip is that i don't think i've been yet since i was on last time we've all
00:25:15.640had our blood tested just like me and i'm not i'm not in with them we went we're not under
00:25:21.020quarantine it was quite the sight shadow it was pretty funny we're sitting at the table and we're
00:25:25.480taking our blood or we're sending it to lab a scientist and i came back positive for our strain
00:25:34.120of h5n1 of exposure antibodies so we have antibodies none of us have ever we have not
00:25:40.160fallen ill we're not sick but we need to start dispelling the fear mongering dispel the myth
00:25:45.800of the fear mongering because people get hospitalized all the time from just the the
00:25:50.740regular flu right it's compromised people who are and so i um i just it's we need to dispel
00:25:59.020the fear mongering i'm not going to say that nobody will get hospitalized from h5n1 there
00:26:03.360will for sure somebody's going to but for the most part i think we need to start putting science
00:26:09.920forward the truth has to come forward taking our farm as a living laboratory that we are
00:26:15.200protecting all other farms out there and our food security it's super important to us
00:26:20.920it's not a one-size-fits-all stamping out approach does not work for everybody we are
00:26:28.200we're on our way for a road to destruction we did make it to legislature yes i want to talk to you
00:26:34.920about that and also what happened last week regarding the dump in uh edgewater around but
00:26:40.520i know right it doesn't sound like cfia is is doing this for the public good it sounds more0.53
00:26:49.200like they're doing it to show you who's boss and because you had the balls to stand up and say no
00:26:55.660that's wrong they are absolutely trying to make an example that's exactly what this is i mean0.98
00:27:02.100you would have to be a moron not to see it any other way because there is no danger emanating0.92
00:27:08.080from universal ostrich farm so but before we talk about your trip to the ledge and and i know that0.98
00:27:14.320that was a very positive thing what exactly happened with with the dump in edgewood like
00:27:20.420were they contracted by cfia yeah so as you know we've our support has grown so immensely because
00:27:27.920people are starting to really understand that we're not save the ostriches only i mean some
00:27:33.140people in the beginning started it off with it's their pets and it's this and yeah 400 pets right
00:27:39.000yeah yeah i mean um but um we've so yeah it's been you know well 30 years here with some of
00:27:48.080these animals but um so we have an amazing support network we have ears on the ground and eyes on the
00:27:55.640sky we have everybody just really caring about what we're standing up for we had a lady come
00:28:00.640and uh she was fantastic she came and said you know what i have to tell you this is what i found
00:28:07.440out um she was shaken she was sad she she knows it's wrong but a contract udachina uh landfill
00:28:16.720received a contract um they they got the contract for for our burial site for all of our ostrich
00:28:23.800carcasses you know as well as i know that even the environmental impact that that would have
00:28:29.580this is not even allowed hazardous waste on our highways biohazardous waste being just buried
00:28:35.380and you know for for animals to forage on or dig up there are not we're not consulting with our
00:28:40.780communities or our people or the people around these landfills um that has been there's been
00:28:46.760it's been some people are saying yes you know employees yes we got this and then some are like
00:28:52.860don't want to talk at all and they don't want to go on camera um you can just tell them also
00:28:57.240there's that almost an element of fear from their position but you remember too these workers these
00:29:02.520these people who are just going there every day to do their job now are being put at risk
00:29:05.960right if we're spreading or we're driving around some awful crazy virus that has uh potential to
00:29:12.840do such great harm i mean why are we putting our landfill workers that have no idea how to handle
00:29:18.360this at risk because it's not about the virus and just just that would be another great piece of
00:29:26.640evidence for a case if you were able to go back and argue it again right so so you do have that
00:29:34.260confirmed that that actually happened right cfia contracted the yeah wow okay then you think about
00:29:41.120it you're like how the arrogance then you think about hey the arrogance and that too we don't
00:29:46.420have a verdict so the arrogance that we're spending taxpayer dollars we're spending you
00:29:52.460know money to pre pre-prepare for something that hasn't even happened yet it's complete
00:29:57.740it's ignorance yeah like it i'm just trying to to piece this together logistically here so
00:30:04.620so 400 ostriches and and i'm not sure if you guys watching this understand how big ostriches can be
00:30:12.420not all of them are are big but i mean just the picture that i used as a thumbnail tonight you
00:30:17.160and the ostriches how tall are you katie i'm five three okay you're five three the ostriches what
00:30:22.960one of their heads was a good foot above yours they can be yeah extremely tall but you know
00:30:27.700what another thing so yeah think about their 300 pound animals they're so imagine if you had
00:30:33.020almost 400 300 pound animals piled in a dead pile and these all got to go to a landfill
00:30:39.860so how is that like how is that how is that going to work first of all i mean like are like do you
00:30:44.960have any clue as to how cfia was planning on coming in and murdering all these birds were
00:30:49.880they just going to shoot them or well there's been there's been leaked audio from the from the
00:30:55.680landfill or not from the landfills right there's been leaked audio from um the canadian food
00:31:00.100inspection agency that they were going to yeah possibly put square bales in the middle of our
00:31:05.740field and shoot them and one of their visits they outright asked us if you were to humanely kill
00:31:12.420your animals how would you do it and we're like yeah we're gonna tell you yeah well first of all0.99
00:31:18.540let me think about that one right like really honest to god why would you ever think about
00:31:23.040that anyhow but then you know 400 300 pound animals what are they going to do take them in
00:31:28.380the in the back of a transport i think it works out to 46 tons of animal waste that we dumping at
00:31:36.300udachina landfill uh you're right that's a biohazard as well it's a biohazard and i think
00:31:43.740i found out too and i i you know i always like to be factual so i but it has come down from the
00:31:50.280landfills that are dck that they can start accepting um poultry carcasses so i don't know
00:31:59.620where where it became an okay thing i mean we've had a law for a long time when you're hunting you
00:32:04.820can't bring hunting animal waste to landfills there's there's a strict thing about this with
00:32:09.940the spinal fluid with the with certain things i do know and i don't know where where that just
00:32:15.700all get through got thrown out the wayside but that is happening as well and we need to dig up
00:32:20.300more concrete information about that so if anybody on your show knows anything about the rdck landbills
00:32:26.280and uh their bosses and the regulations that have been changed please reach out to us because
00:32:31.280the public has to know it's a public health safety risk if this is truly happening and we
00:32:36.340have biohazard waste being dug around our communities water and environmental you know
00:32:41.420animals this is it's a big concern for all of us this is supposed to be about the public health
00:32:46.720this is ridiculous i mean i'm sorry to laugh in such a serious and strenuous situation but
00:32:54.080come on i mean it's absolutely ridiculous you know what we're laughing we laugh a lot and so
00:33:01.000many people will be like how are you laughing and we're like it doesn't make sense like nothing
00:33:07.140makes sense here how can you you could cry every day or you could just laugh because yeah we're
00:33:13.480living in this topsy-turvy world you i've also seen video of many trucks many campers parked
00:33:20.320around the farm you still have that crew of folks there daily yeah we do we have an amazing it's
00:33:26.820like our ostrich family they come some people come they go some people have given up their work
00:33:31.560they're everything they're like no we're staying um we do want more people here though please
00:33:37.300especially through the time we're going in into um if i out about your audience anybody that wants
00:33:43.580to come to 301 land jill road l-a-n-g-i-l-l-e road and wants to come and support us even if it's a day
00:33:53.260where you want to camp up and you want to just come and be self-sufficient uh it would be
00:33:58.340fantastic peaceful loving kind we're so quiet we have a fire we feed everybody feeds each other
00:34:06.640food and takes care of one another we have a really really big opportunity to create
00:34:13.360amazing change and opportunity in such a shitty time sorry
00:34:17.640i was such a farm girl i understand completely uh so you you've got this is a horrible language
00:34:29.540um i apologize oh the folks around there do they all have jobs are you giving them all jobs like
00:34:35.860just walk the perimeter make sure there's no cd uh shadow so you didn't you didn't hear this either
00:34:42.740we had um we had one of our hens in the middle of the night uh shot in the head with a 22 in
00:34:49.560execution style she was sleeping she was 12 years old big beautiful hen 300 pounds and somebody came
00:34:56.660out in the middle of the night and shot her so ever since then um we have an amazing team here
00:35:02.420of family now that uh we do night watch they sit up all night we take different corners of the road
00:35:09.240and we just watch we've caught um a bunch of group of younger teenagers coming down with
00:35:15.020headlamps the road caught them there was some gentleman or person in their car came down0.94
00:35:19.680revving their engine up and down our road caught you know just we're stopping this ridiculous crazy
00:35:25.940behavior in a time when we are trying to fight for food and research that can help like protect
00:35:32.340your food yeah so i know what small towns can be like uh people talk yeah does anybody know
00:35:41.140who might have been the one who shot the hen no there's an ongoing resolution but nobody is
00:35:49.080talking about it that you've heard so far at least in town in edgewood i mean how many people live
00:35:53.560in edgewood i think last time i checked on google 600 600 so yeah so this is like people everybody
00:36:00.200knows everybody somebody knows what's happened all you got to do is probably walk into the local
00:36:05.080bar one night and the guy will be bragging about it after too many beers or whiskeys
00:36:09.020we don't have a local bar we're so small there's no local bar there's got to be some local gathering
00:36:16.380spot somewhere where there's the guy with the rifle is probably going i'm the one that shot
00:36:22.140the ostrich right because that's just he wants to be a hero the ostrich farm has become the spot
00:36:28.140which is good the gathering spot yeah so you have all kinds of local support but there are a few
00:36:35.340dangerous types out there still i'm going to assume yeah yeah yeah yeah it is you know we just
00:36:41.880um we've been blessed with such a great core of people here but there's a lot of people who are
00:36:46.920just unpredictable and it's you know what it's lack of education they're going against the
00:36:52.740fear-mongering they're listening to people's gossip or whatever it is but if they actually
00:36:56.920understood and if you have a question call us call us at the farm email us at the farm and we
00:37:03.940will dispel your myths we'll help you we'll get we'll help educate you because you know we've um
00:37:10.680yeah we haven't made it this far by by being silly where we know we know what we're doing
00:37:16.640and we're trying to do it right and we're trying to go about it by the law and but right now i
00:37:21.880think education is is preparedness for sure how's your mom doing she's tired we're all we're all
00:37:28.600tired but um the cool thing about us i mean we're a family that has always grown up we love hard we
00:37:34.720fight hard uh we've grown up with fire on the farm for our whole life so we this time you're
00:37:42.200kind of almost running off adrenaline because every day you wake up your feet hit the ground
00:37:46.800you don't know what's going to happen and um it's like playing the biggest came a chess we've ever
00:37:52.180made or or played you know you don't know what strategic move you need to make the next day
00:37:57.160who's making the next move what's happening um so that given that i think by the when this is
00:38:03.820all said and done with which will if i'll get in but it's not going to be done but if the if the
00:38:09.980ostriches are safe for a substantial amount of time i think i could see us really needing a letdown
00:38:15.780no kidding um this has gotten worldwide katie and i know that you know that i'm happy about it and i
00:38:25.660thank you and i thank everybody because it it is a global problem rfk jr even talked about it i
00:38:32.220believe and it's been on a lot of the uh the the american online media i think it's even made it to
00:38:38.200europe i think jim ferguson on freedom train international was talking about it so yeah you
00:38:43.600are getting the word out because i believe that the same kinds of things are happening to other
00:38:48.100farmers in different parts of the world and so because it was getting noise and not just from
00:38:54.460the left-wing corporate media and even the left-wing corporate media obviously is is going
00:38:59.020to paint a different picture completely than what we're talking about here uh it's made its way to
00:39:04.320the bc legislature and you do have a few mlas who are taking up your part how was your trip out there
00:39:10.260and it must have been like i'm thinking okay so you're in edgewood that's what like a six hour
00:39:14.020drive to get to vancouver just to get to the ferry and then you got to get on the ferry and go to
00:39:19.300victoria like that that's a long day for you we booked her actually no when we didn't drive we
00:39:24.500flew i was so we drove to colona um barely missed her we almost missed her flight kind of in a way
00:39:30.820i thought i i ended up with a 20-minute grace period that was good uh flew to victoria um we
00:39:37.860had an amazing experience want to do a shout out to Jordan Keeley the Emily out of Northern Peace
00:39:43.400Peace River he gave up his question period time which he gets question period of time
00:39:49.540once every three weeks and he gave it for the farm because he is a farmer himself
00:39:55.120and this hits close to home and he sees by learning about what's happened here he sees
00:40:00.900where we're going and so he stood up for us it was a very emotional experience for me personally
00:40:07.380sitting in the galley in the legislature building watching the power that just sat
00:40:12.540below me in suits and uh you know both sides and going holy like these are the people this is all
00:40:21.140the people that make these decisions that are outright you know just they they affect all of
00:40:28.400our lives so much um i we uh had a minister of agriculture responded to jordan keely's
00:40:35.480questions for question period uh then we were granted she asked for a meeting with us afterwards
00:40:42.440we had a meeting with lana poppin uh the minister of agriculture samuel godfrey and our mla steve
00:40:51.020morissette afterwards we had 15 minutes with them um i brought up a couple items about there because
00:40:57.380she's mentioned the testing and they test and they do all these good things but i said you mean the
00:41:02.720controversial PCR tests or do you mean that they don't even need tests to come on your property
00:41:08.760and kill animals or you know and I think that one of the biggest failures and the gaps and all
00:41:14.260that's going on is that they're not looking into the future just like they didn't with COVID
00:41:19.080so you know if we are going to eradicate all our farmers and our farmers are getting tired and
00:41:25.680they're giving up then we have it's just like what happened in COVID-19 our once heroes which
00:41:32.960were our truck drivers and our nurses and our doctors became the outcasts and so what do you
00:41:40.500do um you know our farmers now who were once the pioneers in the um in giving um nutritional food
00:41:47.980giving up their life to farm for nutritional food for us are they going to become the next burden
00:41:53.440on society because they're not following through with compliance and they're not um or they're
00:42:00.220they're just giving up and then what do they do after they're in their 60s or you know 50s like
00:42:05.660there's a lot of them are just saying what do we do now that we've been farmers our whole life
00:42:09.720and now we don't want to repopulate do we lean on government assistance what do we do with the
00:42:15.760rest of our life so i said well that is that is the plan actually if you if you look at it and
00:42:20.840i'm sure you've seen that as well yeah yeah farmers moving into the cities and government
00:42:27.440yeah we're curling our our everybody we're curling them slowly this way cinching us into
00:42:34.340the 15-minute cities that we have the control over and i don't know how far i can go with this
00:42:39.440but you look outwards and you go then we're going to have our vaccinations in which our families
00:42:44.320and food which we're solely relying on the government to provide us with their government
00:42:48.880the factory based meat and it's going to become an elite thing who deserves their food who gets
00:42:54.680their their vaccinations um and you know how much do you have to pay for your vaccinations to
00:43:00.480survive because if we get rid of natural immunity and herd immunity in our animals we will need to
00:43:08.820survive off vaccinations there's nothing we're not eating nature we're not eating that immunity
00:43:13.740anymore we're not getting our antibodies and so we will be solely reliant on our annual vaccination
00:43:19.800for survival sorry that's my take on it that that was my five bottles of red pills i've eaten in the
00:43:26.460five months well i'm glad you're all caught up i started now i'm like oh oh really that's great
00:43:36.060i'm glad that you're all caught up now because most of us are going yeah this is exactly what
00:43:40.740they're doing that's exactly what they're doing do you feel as though um meeting with these
00:43:48.680provincial government representatives was going to be helpful at all because cfia after all is
00:43:54.500a federal agency yeah they asked that question canadian press asked that question i said
00:43:59.540they were like why are you here for on the provincial level if it's a federal level and
00:44:03.600i was like well isn't bc in canada like i don't know last time i checked that you know we're still
00:44:09.560part of canada and if we're not we asking the right questions at any level should be important
00:44:16.540you know what's interesting i'm sorry to interrupt you but in saskatchewan this came out a couple of
00:44:22.100years ago um there were federal officials and this had to do with water and local land use
00:44:28.180and these federal officials were just kind of worming their way onto private lands to take
00:44:33.200tests and samples, whatever they were doing. And so one of the owners of the properties
00:44:39.340went to the government and said, hey, the Saskatchewan government and said, hey,
00:44:42.520what's going on here? Scott Moe found out that, in fact, there were federal government agents who
00:44:47.620were coming on to private lands doing water testing and whatnot. And he said, well, that's
00:44:52.160a crime. And if we catch you, we're going to arrest you. So I'm wondering if the B.C. government
00:44:58.120would be willing to do the same thing here and if they have the power to do that. That might be
00:45:02.760it's a really good point maybe you could message me after too i'd like to keep that because you
00:45:08.980know every piece of hope we hold on to it and we chase it we're not and that's what's you know
00:45:13.820we're still here um i really do appreciate the time at the legislature because it gave me an
00:45:19.360eye-opener too um but it also i just it stimulated more conversation some people are you know they
00:45:26.900don't understand how much i just want to take on any me everything because i just went even even
00:45:32.640if two more people here tonight if it was just two that heard knew about this it's two more people
00:45:39.960that were just trying to make educate and be aware of what the situation is here and how the impact
00:45:45.340that it has on all of us and the catastrophic failure in our system that it will have if we
00:45:51.660lose our nutritional food source let me ask you a question and this is going to be personal you
00:45:56.500don't have to answer if you don't want to but before all of this happened who were you and i
00:46:03.540know that you always have been linked to to the universal ostrich farm and i know that you uh you
00:46:09.460grew up with these animals we talked about that last time but what did you do before all this
00:46:13.340so and then i've got a follow-up for that as well by the way so we we had fires that um came through
00:46:22.040here as well I'm sure you're aware of uh and they were evacuation evacuation ordering everybody out
00:46:28.740of here just quite a few not that long ago and my mom was like we said we can't leave the animals
00:46:34.520they don't know how to treat they don't know how to eat feed these animals they don't know how to
00:46:37.720care for them and so we said we're staying so we took this stance of staying and um I I just made
00:46:44.300it through the barricade with my trade and food and gas and everything and back then we were on
00:46:49.820national news because we stayed behind for our animals but we were feeding all the other we were
00:46:54.700offering food for the community's animals after that I went on to raise food for Kelowna's fires
00:47:00.220and I raised by myself a hundred thousand pounds of animal domestic and livestock food drove it
00:47:08.220across the Okanagan Valley I fed all the farms that were staying through evacuation order and
00:47:15.060out of an evacuation order i so with i always joke that i think the government is like their
00:47:21.600daughter just keeps coming home but before so before that i have a family i have a few boys
00:47:29.420i was a mom i am a mom i'm a very proud mother happy mother's day by the way thank you thank
00:47:36.560you very much uh we owned a coffee shop i ran a coffee shop i've written a couple books crazy
00:47:43.020enough about um uh the power of uh you know gratitude and affirmations for children i um i
00:47:51.180guess i've just kind of been always an entrepreneur but i grew up here my biggest passion as you can
00:47:56.000tell is this farm uh it's been a pivotal it's been a big part of my life it's been the biggest part
00:48:01.640of my life i've grown up with these animals that are in their 30s i'm 43 i should never have given
00:48:08.240know my age but i'm 43 and um i love these animals are my life and i see how much joy and the passion
00:48:16.220it brings my mother um and she always told us i think i said this on your last show she said
00:48:21.920these animals are going to do something amazing for humanity one day and we're like uh-huh okay
00:48:27.420and that is that is a thing you are working with a doctor over in japan i believe uh the antibodies
00:48:33.460And we talked about that last time. And the reason I asked that question to you, Katie, is because no matter what happens with the court ruling, whenever it comes out tomorrow or Wednesday, whenever, is this going to be your new thing?
00:48:47.280I mean, because you are very passionate about protecting these farms and about finding a way to wrangle CFIA so they haven't got this kind of power over people.
00:48:58.680And it seems to me that your focus is now just on getting the word out to as many people as possible so that they're aware and they know what's going on.
00:49:10.660It has turned into my new life mission.
00:49:13.080And I think it's going to be to be able to speak on these causes, protect our small farmers, work with the commercial poultry, the associations that are larger.
00:49:23.860I, you know, try and bridge those gaps, bring these people together, but have a have a stability in our food source, have a stability with our farmers and create, make them that before they become the burden, create, make them the biggest heroes that the that our health care workers are.
00:49:40.860our truck drivers are and let's not make that mistake again here and we're going to stop it
00:49:47.000before it happens so it is i have a big passion do you have allies do i have yes yes i know you
00:49:56.480don't want to name names that we talked about this before but i'm talking about people who are
00:50:00.100willing to stand up with you because this can be an awfully lonely thing doing it by yourself
00:50:05.440solid people we have so jim kerr from the bubble bus has given up you know he had a ticket back
00:50:12.080and then he was and he was like i can't leave how do i leave when there's no verdict uh he's
00:50:18.720been by our side uh taking tons of live video we have sarah bankert bankert she's day one she's
00:50:26.740been here from the polona resistance videoing standing up making sure the message gets heard
00:50:32.280lots of love we have oh gosh um just so many i you know kind people we have our scientific team
00:50:39.940that are willing to stand behind us between behind by guelph university um is dr pellick from
00:50:46.000university british columbia um byron bridal um oh we have a yeah we have a lot of people willing
00:50:53.580to stand with us and i think we just need to keep pushing forward and create this amazing dynamic
00:50:59.680that we have and we can make a lot of change universal ostrich harm stands for
00:51:04.560um you know using this most challenging time to make the largest opportunity to protect others
00:51:10.260if this does happen where they come out and they call the birds are you planning on being there
00:51:19.300for that or are you going to be off site no absolutely we will be here we will video i said
00:51:25.680the world is watching and if the world uh if that happens and it goes that way the world i whoever
00:51:32.740wants to and i i mean this i'm sorry but because i i would not be the one that would be able to
00:51:37.880watch it but i will show the world that each animal getting killed because this is not unnecessary
00:51:44.800it is it is animal cruelty because they were healthy animals under the health and animals act
00:51:49.580you do not do this we are um and then our animals deaths would would fight for tooth and nail to make
00:51:57.780this use this to protect every farm out there so yeah we would film it i'm gonna stay i know all
00:52:03.920of us are gonna stay um they'd have to pull us out of here that would be a heartbreaking
00:52:09.520and i can't even call it a moment because it wouldn't be a moment for 400 of them it would
00:52:15.060go on for hours probably they are they are not replaceable or you you have to remember the
00:52:20.060decades of genetics that are here the environmental challenges that each unique immune system has
00:52:26.740faced and fought off it could just be as simple as their own cold but we if you they're okay with
00:52:32.640our farms killing all of our animals and our genetic diversity off and then repopulating with
00:52:37.400really small young animals that have no immune systems which allows these viruses to have more
00:52:43.940a habitat or like an environment to mutate on. So we're doing everything wrong. The science is
00:52:51.780clear. The culling is not working. By wiping out our natural immunity that has been our most
00:52:56.540powerful system for forever, nature's most powerful defense system, we are setting
00:53:06.140ourselves up for catastrophic failure so when this ruling does come what is it like if it it's
00:53:15.320in your favor what does that mean is it just another delay or is it a final decision uh no
00:53:21.460it's uh just another to us it's another delay in appeal um we will have an appeal ready we will be
00:53:28.640ready to take that on um you know you have to remember too they have so much power shadow
00:53:35.040that they can just come on and say that they're working in the best interest of public health
00:53:40.580and safety, and they could come on tonight. It just wouldn't look very good on them, right?
00:53:45.440So these organizations have way too much power with no accountability, and we have to start
00:53:50.260creating some. And that's what we're trying to do here. There's accountability, and you have to
00:53:54.240start looking into the future. And they're not, these people that are being put in these positions,
00:53:58.740they are not, they are lacking the education in the areas that they're in. They need to start
00:54:04.240really going to the experts, which is the farmer. We need to start putting some faith in the people
00:54:09.420that have raised these animals for the years that they have. And there's no accountability. And that
00:54:14.440is scary. You don't have organizations that have that much power with no accountability. They don't
00:54:18.800even show up on site for the culling. They hire third party contractors, vendors to come and do
00:54:25.100the killing. Canadian Food Inspection Agency and three of the farms that I've spoke to,
00:54:29.660they are not present for the culling so then they go out just hire murderers like yeah yeah
00:54:38.100good word for them because if you don't have any expert to expertise with these animals that
00:54:42.680you're killing how you're just going out there and it's it's wrong it's all wrong and they're
00:54:49.040handling infection they're handling infectious disease are these vendors actually qualified
00:54:54.280has anybody checked to see if these vendors are even qualified to handle the disease and shoot
00:54:59.020the animals and be present on the properties that they're on like we're not you know you would think
00:55:04.740that they've already handed this job off to somebody because of the arrogance that we pointed
00:55:11.180out earlier in the show right they've already contracted that does anybody want to leak the
00:55:15.880vendor that's been hired to i'm sure that might be interesting probably wouldn't be somebody local
00:55:23.480though but maybe you know i mean with all the viewers that we've got here maybe we can get a
00:55:31.940And name is spelled just like it is at the bottom of the screen, you guys.
00:55:35.840Katie, I want to thank you for coming on tonight.
00:55:37.560And on behalf of all of the viewers of this show, I want to wish you like the biggest, huge, largest hug that we ever, virtual hug that we could ever give.
00:56:48.340hey we've got more show just so you guys know i i didn't want you to think that the show was over
00:57:00.420it's not we've got some actual news to get through tonight so we're going to go ahead and do that
00:57:05.780starting with a fire that happened in winnipeg today firefighters battling a large blaze
00:57:12.660North Transcona Industrial Zone. They're calling it a grass fire. And I'm sure that we're maybe
00:57:19.460minutes away now from somebody saying it was climate change that caused the fire. Now, this
00:57:24.080area, like they say here in the Winnipeg Sun, is a large industrial area. As a matter of fact,
00:57:31.060there's a rail yard up there. It's been there for 70 years. It's called Symington Yard. And I know
00:57:36.000people who have worked there for many, many years, including an engineer who said to me
00:57:40.740that if a fire in this area ever happened, it could burn forever, simply because the diesel
00:57:48.360fuel that has been in the ground for the last 70 years, it seeped right into the ground, goes 20
00:57:54.400feet deep, maybe more. So this fire could be burning for quite some time, and it might be
00:58:02.040very difficult to put out. Here's a little video.
00:58:10.740so that's what it looked like and it was pluming all over the city so big fire grass fire
00:58:27.000probably still burning it had been burning at about seven o'clock tonight central time for about
00:58:34.060five hours so that's kind of crazy uh tomorrow night on the show jeff rath you guys remember
00:58:40.920jeff rath he's with the alberta prosperity project he's going to be joining the show he's also what
00:58:45.460i would consider to be the authority on first nations and indigenous groups at least in alberta
00:58:51.320and he's been fighting for indigenous rights legally for the past 30 years uh jeff is a lawyer
00:58:59.020and he is also a big believer in Alberta sovereignty and he has come up with a question
00:59:05.280a referendum question we'll be talking more about this tomorrow night and also exactly
00:59:11.040what the First Nations stance on all of this is because it seems at least in the past week
00:59:17.100they've been telling Danielle Smith to get off their land do the treaties still apply
00:59:22.620did the treaties give the first nations people some sort of veto power over alberta separating
00:59:29.440from canada i would suggest no but we're going to hear about it from the authority jeff rath
00:59:35.940of the alberta prosperity project tomorrow night from the cbc separatists they're going to use the
00:59:42.560word separatists right separatists release potential alberta referendum question expect
00:59:47.920danielle smith to join the cause the alberta prosperity project says the premier should hold
00:59:53.300a referendum in 2025 with ucp base heavily pro secession very interesting they want it this year
01:00:01.100and that's what jeff said on the show last time he was on we've heard that danielle smith if they
01:00:06.240can get enough people to sign the petition will hold the referendum in 2026 but they want to make
01:00:13.920it faster so an alberta separatist group they're the alberta prosperity project separatists
01:00:20.360and it's amazing i pointed this out on the show last week you know when they talk about
01:00:25.180separatism in quebec they joke around with yves flancois blanchette of the black quebecois they0.92
01:00:31.800it's funny it's cute look at the quebecers they want to leave oh my god they're so adorable0.92
01:00:36.300But Alberta, they're like monsters.1.00
01:00:42.120So the APP released a referendum question today on independence from Canada that it will petition to get in front of provincial voters.
01:00:51.200But only once it's garnered support from 600,000 Albertans.
01:00:55.700Well, OK, so Bill 54 that was introduced last week, I think, or maybe the week before by Danielle Smith and the UCP government is going to significantly reduce that number.
01:01:05.540So again, the CBC is trying to suppress the idea of Alberta sovereignty amongst Albertans, right?
01:01:17.020That's more than triple the number of signatures the Alberta Prosperity Project would need under a new conservative,
01:01:22.920a new united conservative party government bill that makes it much easier to force a referendum on the ballot.
01:01:28.480But the group also said it would push Danielle Smith to allow a separation referendum later in 2025 instead of next year.
01:01:36.580As she suggested, they said a critical mass of separatist UCP members can persuade the premier to fast track the referendum and to join their cause as well.
01:01:49.260The UCP did a little bit of a press conference today.
01:01:52.140They're still standing up to the federal government.
01:01:57.560Rebecca Schultz, I believe her name is.
01:02:00.780She's the Minister of Environment in Alberta.
01:02:05.240She and Danielle Smith held a press conference today, and here's a clip of that.
01:02:08.680How industry felt about what's working well and what presents a challenge.
01:02:13.300Certainly, concerns were raised about the impacts of a carbon price reaching over $100 per ton.
01:02:19.040That is why, effective immediately, we're freezing the industrial carbon price.
01:02:22.840This will provide a stable, predictable, and effective environment for companies to operate and remain competitive.
01:02:29.200It will also benefit sectors across the economy, including agriculture, forestry, and manufacturing,
01:02:34.660helping reduce costs, grow industries, and of course, keep Albertans working.
01:02:38.780We're keeping Alberta competitive, standing up for our workers, our industries, and our economy.
01:02:43.400We are absolutely a leader when it comes to energy and resource development, but also when it comes to emissions reduction.
01:02:49.800This is our jurisdiction, not Ottawa's.
01:02:52.800And if the federal government wants to work together to keep our economy strong,
01:02:56.540respect the Constitution, and do the right thing for the environment,
01:02:59.220they can follow the path forward that has been outlined by the Premier over the last couple of weeks.
01:03:08.240So while they still band a little bit when they say, well, we're a leader in emissions reduction,
01:03:13.560they're not going to increase the carbon tax that the federal government insists they do
01:03:21.920in other words they're jamming their thumb in the eye of mark carney i don't know if this is a ploy
01:03:29.140to force him to the table to negotiate on the 10 points that danielle smith has repeatedly brought
01:03:34.640up the conditions required for alberta to she doesn't go as far as say separate she she continues
01:03:43.140to say national unity crisis which is what's already going on interesting some of the articles
01:03:51.360coming out of ontario and all of the big left-wing corporate media publications they're laughing at
01:03:57.700alberta yet again they're laughing at the west yet again and what i would suggest is that
01:04:04.180if you don't think that you're going to get this passed in alberta if the support is only 30 or
01:04:12.34035 percent in favor of leaving canada and becoming a sovereign nation make sure if you live in alberta
01:04:19.320again make sure that your buddies who may not agree with you regarding separation read the odd
01:04:26.900article from the toronto star or the globe and mail or watch the cbc when they start talking about
01:04:32.240separation because that will anger them enough to actually go ahead and join the sovereignty movement
01:04:39.480just to see how they're laughed at alberta doesn't it's alberta is not the economic engine
01:04:46.100of canada oil and gas energy is not a big factor in the economy of canada that's what they're
01:04:52.300actually saying that's what they actually have the gall to say even though it is the number one
01:04:57.800thing that drives the economy even now under the conditions the liberals have laid down for the
01:05:03.040last 10 years. And without Alberta, Canada's screwed. If you want to talk about have-not
01:05:09.640provinces, well, Ontario is one. They receive money from equalization, not as much as Quebec,
01:05:19.340but they still take about a billion dollars. Quebec takes 13 or 14 billion dollars from
01:05:23.780equalization. But they're saying that those two provinces are the ones that control the economy
01:05:30.240of the country. Well, it makes sense. They're saying that together, Ontario and Quebec control
01:05:35.90057 percent of Canada's economy, even though they have over two thirds of the population. So
01:05:42.540obviously, both of those provinces are nanny states or they've become that way.
01:05:48.900They should be able to match the economic output with the population. It should be the same.
01:05:54.280If the population of Quebec and Ontario combined is two thirds that of Canada,
01:05:59.200then they should be controlling two-thirds of the economy, and they're not.
01:06:03.460So Alberta punches high above its weight.
01:06:08.320Now, there's been a lot of talk about recounts from the election last week.
01:06:13.560Was it last week or was it the week before?
01:10:00.020According to the Windsor Star, one example cited by lawyer Jeff Hewitt was a ballot marked with an X for Kuzmarek, but also had the words,
01:10:06.560Eirik did a good job in the margins. It's not allowed.
01:10:11.540Preliminary figures had the CPC's Kathy Borelli finishing 233 ballots ahead, but Kuzmarek said,
01:10:18.400Elections Canada later found four errors in how wind polling stations reported their final tallies, which reduced the margin to 77, leaving him seven shy.
01:10:26.440so if they've already done one recount and they do another one do you think the liberals can get
01:10:31.820another 78 swing another 78 ballot so he wins i don't think that's going to happen
01:10:39.140i i don't think that's going to happen but the other two the conservatives could get two seats
01:10:46.340back you never know bank of canada is going to start cutting rates again as jobs blow from
01:10:52.260tariffs materializes, economists say. So apparently Canada lost 22,000 or 27,000 private jobs. Let's
01:11:01.080go ahead and read the story because it's very fascinating. They added government jobs through
01:11:05.860the election period. And that's what they're saying is buoying the economy right now. The
01:11:11.780unemployment rate rose to 6.9% last month. And they're saying here in the financial post that
01:11:17.880Donald Trump had his fingerprints all over it.
01:11:21.840This is according to Statistics Canada, obviously.