00:28:34.780we've got oh my goodness we've got uh people you got lee vossin from students against mandates i
00:28:40.480haven't seen lee in a while it's going to be good to see her yeah we do um we've got ruth whedell
00:28:45.520coming from the east coast mark roberts is coming we've got somebody that a lot of folks here in
00:28:50.460manitoba don't know and that is john graff if you page up a little bit you'll see john graff's
00:28:54.860image there he's one of the most interesting people that you'll want to meet trust me on this
00:29:01.360he well what is it about john that's so interesting he's created he and his group
00:29:07.300in saskatchewan have created a parallel economy which you become can become a part of they they
00:29:14.160have professionals producers uh they've even got their own bank system and they're they're running
00:29:21.160this this this parallel economy that you can become part of and this year they're i mean this
00:29:27.220this all sounds insane, but it's absolutely true. I spoke at their annual general meeting in
00:29:32.220Saskatchewan two, three weeks ago. This year, their process is to set up a small alternative
00:29:39.640healthcare system. And they're doing it, folks. It's incredible. So come out and listen to John.
00:29:46.720And for those of you who think you know Mark Trozzi, Mark Trozzi is really a hero. He's lost
00:29:53.780everything he was attacked by the college of physician surgeons lost his position lost his
00:29:59.380job he lost his license he had to sell his cottage i think he sold his house he stood up
00:30:06.160for canadians and we really need to support uh mark trozzi so um yeah there's so many people
00:30:12.780who have given up so much i mean yeah i i did a little um monologue about you before i brought you
00:30:18.680on ken and i don't think i've ever asked you this at least not on the show on your six or
00:30:25.100seven appearances on the show now you're past the steak knives deal now i don't know what to get for
00:30:29.340the 10 appearances that obviously will happen at some point but um what motivated you what what
00:30:36.600really mode and still motivates you to keep going forward i mean you've done your bit man i think
00:30:42.940that you've done a fantastic job and and you've produced thousand pages reports you've sat through
00:30:50.380hours and hours listening to people tell their stories you've revealed so much what is it that0.93
00:30:59.060keeps you going on this maybe this is going to sound stupid but i didn't even understand it0.94
00:31:06.480myself when it started. It goes back a long way in our family, my grandfather and my great0.97
00:31:13.500grandfather, who I have to admit were not the best people in the world. But in 1914, when the call
00:31:20.380came out, both of them volunteered and went to Europe from Canada. My great grandfather was
00:31:26.720already an elderly man and he lied about his age. And so he went as well. And both of them,0.96
00:31:33.800My great-grandfather was wounded after, I think it was in the fall of 1915, and that's when they discovered he was too old, and they shipped him back.
00:31:44.020My grandfather was wounded three times, and he was there for the duration.
00:31:49.140Now, that's not an uncommon story for folks, but my father, this is where it comes out.
00:31:54.100My father was 20 at the time the Second World War started, so he was 20 years old, fit as a fiddle.
00:32:01.680he was not allowed to go because when he was a young teen he got scarlet fever and his eyes
00:32:09.620were very bad his eyesight was terrible now where is this all going my father regretted that all of
00:32:15.720his life he carried that shame all of his life that he couldn't go along with his friends and
00:32:22.960defend the country and he put his life on hold throughout that whole period of time in respect
00:32:28.920for what is going on. And to be honest, when I thought about him and I thought about what he
00:32:35.600carried for all of his life, I didn't want to carry that. I didn't want to have my grandson
00:32:41.640come to me and say, grandpa, where were you? So call it what you will. You can say that I was,
00:32:52.580I did it out of fear for the future, but I know what that kind of thing can do to people when
00:32:58.720you tried or you or you couldn't act or you're prevented from acting and you didn't and then
00:33:03.800you carry that and i didn't want to carry that and still you're willing to shell out thousands
00:33:12.560of your own dollars kent i mean you know we've privately talked about you paying for certain
00:33:23.180things i'm not going to go into detail about it you haven't made money from this and you know the
00:33:30.440the accusations that that you get i'm sure still probably uh can be stinging but people i don't
00:33:40.760think people quite understand why we do this we're not here for the money you're going to the pocket
00:33:47.940here for this event for the the canada stronger together you're bringing these people here i'm
00:33:54.800not sure exactly how much you're you're into this for and i'm not going to ask because that's rude
00:33:59.360my my grandfather would tell me what are you doing you don't ask and so i'm not going to ask
00:34:05.640but it's it's pretty plausible that you could lose some some money on this
00:34:13.760well you know and look look i i let me finish this and and so when we talk about the ticket
00:34:22.560prices for this event and people see it and maybe there's a little bit of sticker shock
00:34:26.440because they see what is the what is the price here do i scroll down here and
00:34:30.500where is it it's on the event page uh no you're on the event page go right down i think it's about
00:34:36.140$250 for three days that includes by the way that includes six meals so the regular ticket price
00:34:45.800which by the way goes up to 262 on June 7th just because we have to tell the caterers how many
00:34:52.800people are coming tomorrow and any additions to that cost us a little more but $259 Shadow
00:35:00.400That includes six full sit-down meals, plus all of the speakers coming in.
00:35:08.360I'm going to talk a little bit about an AI assistant that we have on our website, on the conference website.
00:35:21.520There's conferences going on at the same time that are one or two days, one or two meals, and they're $750.
00:35:28.440bucks you know that that that conference that rebel news had in toronto the rumble live that
00:35:33.860was like 700 1100 dollars to go for a day and so you know out of the 249 price i think about
00:35:41.780140 or so of that is the food service we're providing you with coffee we're providing you
00:35:47.920with water we're surprising you with breakfasts and suppers and lunches and then on so you take
00:35:53.360that off right away and then we're flying in most of the best speakers because they they can't
00:35:59.420pay for that themselves so we're paying for that we're paying for the hall rental we have security
00:36:04.280there where you know we have to pay the ad guys i think the av guys are costing us 10 grand
00:36:08.880um so you know it's it's not this is not this is important and i hope people don't misunderstand
00:36:17.000understand what I'm going to say. This is not meeting in a field somewhere and cut off jeans,
00:36:23.360screaming freedom at the top of your lungs until you can't speak anymore. That's not what this is
00:36:28.160about. And, you know, we've put a lot of work into the program. And if I can, just for a few
00:36:37.840moments, this is not a talking head program. You know, talking head program. You go into it,
00:36:44.080there's a podium and there's some person standing behind it and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And
00:36:48.640then the next one gets up and probably around two o'clock in the afternoon, you're falling asleep
00:36:52.400and you sneak out to go to the bar. Well, this isn't like that. On Sunday afternoon, when we're
00:36:58.860done, you're going to be excited, but you're going to be tired. We don't have any talking
00:37:03.780head speakers. We have a series of six panel discussions and Shadow is moderating them,
00:37:10.880by the way folks and and we're covering a variety of topics with people from across the country
00:37:16.960giving you their perspective and even people from different communities giving you their perspective
00:37:22.200they have the guts to come out and do this and and these are 90 minute segments and you've got
00:37:28.020the with with with any luck there's going to be some time for audience interaction on that so and
00:37:33.880that's that's the kind of thing we're doing now in addition to that we have something called
00:37:39.520frontline perspectives and if you uh page down or scroll down a little bit on that screen that
00:37:44.240you've got there we've got an event called frontline perspectives which happens on saturday
00:37:49.040oh by the way what's going across right now if you click on that thing that's where you buy your
00:37:53.020tickets it takes you to eventbrite but anyway i just got distracted because that's where you buy
00:37:57.220your tickets but if you keep scrolling down we have something called saturday morning after panel
00:38:03.940one at 11 a.m. you can see it's there it says frontline perspectives this is something really
00:38:12.260incredible it's it's uh it's like speed dating for freedom leaders so we have 10 freedom leaders
00:38:17.860coming from across the country each one has 10 minutes they get up they tell you who they are
00:38:23.080what they're about tell you the successes the failures ask for your help you can ask them for
00:38:28.100help and the next one comes up and then we have 10 of those lined up back to back now on this
00:38:33.620on this agenda you're looking if you if you uh click on um uh shadow if you click on let's say
00:38:40.900litigating for liberty and what that does is it'll take you to another screen and it'll actually
00:38:48.340explain to you what in the heck this panel's about so again if you scroll down there you can see
00:38:53.680what the panel is about and it tells you how it's organized and then if you keep scrolling down on
00:39:01.540that panel it's not moving on here oh isn't it oh i guess it froze up on you okay just push the
00:39:08.080push the white x there up in the corner and it'll go back on the right hand side yeah there we go
00:39:13.540all right so okay there we go all right so there's no talking head speech after speech after speech
00:39:22.920these are all panels about things like the education system uh litigate litigation what's
00:39:28.880going on in litigation in canada if you scroll down a little bit more past panel two there
00:39:32.920you'll see there we go navigating the media landscape we have um rodney palmer in for that
00:39:39.080we have julie levec from quebec in you'll see at an evening on saturday that's when our our
00:39:45.100our discussion with the harpers come up um if you on sunday you'll see that we've got a panel on
00:39:53.560building resilient communities a panel on safeguarding our food supply what that's about
00:39:59.160is we're talking about the late regulations and culling and stuff that the government's doing
00:40:03.000and we have a talk well you know i guess i can ask i'm not going to ask you you're not the expert
00:40:09.780on this stuff i'll ask the guys at the at the thing in a couple of weeks because i you know
00:40:13.660we hear about these poisons and the chemicals that they're constantly pouring into our food
00:40:17.720supply and our water. And how do we get rid of that? How do we stop that from happening? But
00:40:22.620these guys hopefully will have the answers to that stuff. Absolutely. And they'll talk to you
00:40:27.020about some things that a lot of you people might not be aware of. And that is the regulations are
00:40:31.240bringing to stop food production. Yeah, I did say that they're stopping food production in a lot of
00:40:37.220areas um now as if that's not enough the next thing that you're seeing there is we have information
00:40:45.140tables for various organizations and i think we have 20 in total so we have six left and what
00:40:50.780happens there is uh organizations can come in and this these aren't selling tables they're not
00:40:55.660selling you knitted hats and dukes and stuff these are freedom groups who come in they set up on a
00:41:00.420table they give you their information they'll have people manning those stations and you can learn
00:41:04.740firsthand from these folks exactly what they're doing. Again, although we're giving you all these
00:41:11.120things to do, all these panels and all these times to socialize and whatnot, the whole intent here
00:41:18.080is to get people together from coast to coast. The whole intent is that I'm not a two-dimensional
00:41:24.500talking head on a screen. You know, people are four-dimensional creatures. You know, you got a
00:41:30.140height width depth and you have a soul those are the four dimensions in my mind and when you're
00:41:36.200watching me or shadow even on the screen you have a two-dimensional person and you do not connect
00:41:41.320you might think you do but you don't and we're having a lot of division we're having a lot of
00:41:45.800separation across the country in the freedom movement of course the government's rubbing
00:41:49.280their hands together just loving that but a lot of it's got to do with they never aren't don't
00:41:54.220even talk to each other and if you don't if you don't connect on a human basis with people that
00:42:00.800leads to all kinds of issues so is if all that isn't enough we've actually got a secure boardroom
00:42:08.760there in the facility and if two groups come together and they're having problems we're
00:42:14.160inviting them to use that facility and i've had tremendous experience in mediation and arbitration
00:42:19.280And we will help them get through those issues. So if you have an issue, if you've got a problem with another freedom group or you want to know something, we will provide those facilities to you, plus an arbitrator to mend these fences and move forward as a group.
00:42:36.000wow so look at i'm looking at the the schedule here for friday because as you say there's going
00:42:43.940to be a lot of uh you know assimilating information for everybody who's there but they're going to
00:42:49.260want to wind down so we've got some live entertainment james creasy some bar service
00:42:53.120happening on the friday night and the same with the saturday night but ken i see that things are
00:42:57.640wrapping up at 8 30 at night on friday and saturday what are people i mean i understand
00:43:03.580that we're going to be in a small town here in bozizur manitoba what are we supposed to do after
00:43:09.080that go right to bed or look for something else to do like a bush party where we can go and scream
00:43:14.240freedom at the top of our lungs well you know i want you to be rested on saturday morning because
00:43:19.960when you look at saturday you get into this thing at nine o'clock in the morning and it we're hard
00:43:26.240into it till eight o'clock at night and like i said folks this is not going to be a um i'm not
00:43:32.620even sure a conference is the right term for it but this is not going to be a meeting where you
00:43:36.840come in because the boss sent you there and you're going to sneak out to the bar in the afternoon
00:43:40.320first there is no bar there and secondly there's just going to be too much to do and too many0.50
00:43:46.160things to participate in your participation isn't putting your bum on a chair and sitting there for
00:43:51.740eight hours you're going to be able to talk to people matter of fact shadow i'll let you in on
00:43:55.420a little thing on friday night when we do the opening uh ceremonies we're going to ask people
00:44:00.500that you see those people that you came with tonight don't see them for the rest of the
00:44:05.000weekend we want you to have lunch with other people we want you to have coffee with people
00:44:08.780you don't know you know limber up your hand to shake hands with people you've never met because
00:44:14.420that's what this is about you know the panels are fantastic but this is about reconnecting people
00:44:21.560on a human level face to face belly button to belly button breathing the same air talking
00:44:27.860working things out it's a free market of ideas that's what this is about and solution-based
00:44:34.900ideas or possibly you know i mean i can see so many different things being maybe not solved but
00:44:41.960moved forward on a weekend like this because as you say you know when you don't get a chance to
00:44:47.320see somebody face to face in person hug that person shake their hand just be within their
00:44:53.100their general vicinity it's different like you say you know we're two-dimensional beings on this
00:44:58.720screen people are watching right now as opposed to living breathing human beings so that in and
00:45:04.400of itself i believe is a huge attraction we're not going to be and and the other thing that you
00:45:11.100point out correctly is that you know there's that other thing going on in victoria that same weekend
00:45:16.480and they're going to have i'm not even sure who they're having but uh some bigger names a couple
00:45:22.780people from the united states and whatnot so what is what purpose does that serve it's cool to be
00:45:28.060able to say i was there and i saw so and so but ultimately you're not really doing anything for
00:45:35.220yourself or your family or your community and you're spending three times as much money to do
00:45:41.020that as opposed to this well right well you know that's interesting because um you know this whole
00:45:48.760idea behind what we're doing is unity and getting people together and so believe it or not i've been
00:45:53.240promoting that other conference as well um if you if you're in victoria or you're in vancouver and
00:45:59.080you want to go to that conference go to it as a matter of fact we had jonathan bauer who's the
00:46:05.640who's uh arranging that conference we had him on our zoom call two weeks ago and we invited him
00:46:10.520last night but he couldn't make it so you know when i talk about unity and when i talk about
00:46:15.240getting together i mean it and and somebody said to me you're crazy what are you promoting someone
00:46:20.660else's conference for well i am because there's 40 million people in this country and you think
00:46:25.540they can't fill up 1500 people in victoria and 850 in boziger of course they can no you're right
00:46:32.200you know and also to travel for a lot of people as well right i mean like if if you're stuck on
00:46:38.140the island you haven't got a lot of money uh for travel because it's expensive i mean let's be
00:46:43.020honest right you maybe go to the one of victoria if you're within this vicinity go to this one but
00:46:47.940different kinds of events right like that one is more about cbc and i was at this thing
00:46:55.740and i saw so and so uh zooby speak but this event it's not just about meeting the stars because
00:47:04.280quite frankly none of us are it's about getting together with people and discussing things and
00:47:12.880discussing ideas and uh coming up with solutions and i love that idea i love that idea and what
00:47:19.860you guys have done is has been so much work but right from the heart right well you know
00:47:26.300the solution that we need to have isn't going to come from big name hollywood stars it's going to
00:47:32.840come from people like you and i uh you know the the people that get up every morning and well i
00:47:39.440guess i don't shave anymore but the people that get up every morning and they go to work and they
00:47:43.900hug their grandchildren and they kiss their wife this isn't about stardom you know all of the people
00:47:49.860on our agenda are from canada they're not we're not importing people from the united states the
00:47:54.820united states has nothing to teach us and that's not me being prejudiced against the americans you
00:47:59.840know i have two sons living down there i have uh two sisters living there my wife's got a sister
00:48:04.800living down there we're connected at the hip with the americans but this is about canada we
00:48:10.380have a different system and and if you think if you're the kind of person that wants to be
00:48:15.540inspired by sitting there and listening to rock hudson it shows how old i am talking on the stage
00:48:20.640that's great go ahead but if you want to get your fingers dirty if you want to actually engage and
00:48:28.980have them hear what you have to say and you want to be a part of that and you want to work hard
00:48:35.940because you will be working hard at this conference you know you it's not all of us can just come out
00:48:40.960and shake hands and hug people we don't know and ask them about themselves that's hard work for
00:48:47.680most people and so you'll be working hard at this but you don't gain anything by not working hard
00:48:54.180you know you've got to work at something and it's got to be from us you know it's interesting too
00:49:00.120um you have been traveling from municipality to municipality over the past year with manitoba
00:49:08.360stronger together trying to spread the word of public accountability in politics and building
00:49:15.340uh not not necessarily voting blocks but you have been getting people to try and become more engaged
00:49:23.000with their representatives no matter the party um this could be an interesting thing as a pitch
00:49:30.460and i think i probably touched on this a couple of weeks ago when i first started talking about
00:49:35.100the conference but perhaps you know if there are let's say let's say you guys watching this right
00:49:42.020now let's say you're in estevan saskatchewan or maybe you're in consort alberta wherever you happen
00:49:47.960to be and you've got a small freedom community there you all can't come to the conference because
00:49:55.020you can't afford it maybe so maybe you send one person from your six seven or eight person group
00:50:01.340to come to the group to be the representative from consort or estevan or wherever and bring back
00:50:08.660come here get the information meet the people make your contacts and then come back with all
00:50:14.800of that information so you can all work on it together back home yeah maybe it's something like
00:50:21.120that right you're absolutely right you know saturday night this past saturday after the
00:50:25.940hearings the nci hearings were over i did attend a fundraiser for the living streams institute
00:50:30.940and i gave a pitch about this and a lot of those folks are coming some of them are you know some
00:50:37.160of them are getting together and they're all packing up somebody's camper and they're driving
00:50:40.660out so there's a there's a convoy coming from the fraser valley here and they're picking people up
00:50:45.720along the way it's it's really interesting so you could do some imaginative things and what you're
00:50:51.440talking about is is an imaginative thing and also by the way um we were talking the other day that
00:50:57.780folks were wondering how who are coming in from on town where do they get accommodations out there
00:51:02.580and it is on our website if you keep on the page that we were the events website on manitoba
00:51:07.860a stronger together at the bottom we list all the accommodations phone numbers uh email addresses
00:51:13.480etc right at the bottom and um and we actually have group pricing from a lot of these places
00:51:20.660so if you book a hotel just let them know you're with the stronger together conference keep going
00:51:25.080there we go accommodations and there's a spreadsheet at the bottom which gives you
00:51:29.140all of these places if you keep scrolling down you'll find it there we go so we've listed for
00:51:34.740everybody there are phone numbers uh email us we've actually negotiated deals with you um i hope
00:51:40.100i hope they're still available because things have been booking up um so we've taken care of
00:51:47.640taken care of a lot of stuff you we recognize that where we are and where we're holding this
00:51:53.900thing is a bit of an unusual thing but at the same time it's not you know bozinger is about a 30 40
00:52:01.400minute drive from winnipeg airport and i'll tell you what try driving across calgary in 40 minutes
00:52:07.000or montreal or toronto good luck with that yeah no way no way all of these places here i'm sorry
00:52:13.640to interrupt you all of these places here are within half hour drive of the event center in
00:52:18.460boziger so it's not like you have to go far if you're staying at south beach casino or the can
00:52:23.900alta in selkirk or uh well can't add in club region i mean the thing is you don't want people staying
00:52:29.880at a casino that's a casino you never they'll never leave
00:52:33.800no i'm playing the machines leave me alone hey you know what i i just occurred something just
00:52:42.900occurred to me i i'm like i'm i'm the new um oh gosh what was his name um the k-tel guy he just
00:52:50.680passed away a few years ago um oh uh don curtain uh the bob washington mr kivas kivas was the last
00:52:59.360name i can't think of his first name off the top of my head in any case i'm going to go back to
00:53:02.620being the k-tail guy and if you bear with me for just a second um but you can bring it out a
00:53:08.980pastor maker or something i am gonna have flipper this is volume one and volume two of the national
00:53:17.780citizens inquiry report volume one and volume two there's 13 volumes folks the other the other 11
00:53:26.280volumes are all of the sworn testimony by the witnesses, but I'm going to have 30 copies of
00:53:31.780these two books with me at the conference. I'm offering the two books to you, including tax for
00:53:37.62060 bucks. That's below what you can buy them for. You can go to Amazon and you can buy them. They're
00:53:41.920a fair bit more money than that. And if that's not enough, I'll even sign them for you as the
00:53:49.800chairman of the commissioners and one of the principal authors. And Bernard Dr. Massey is
00:53:55.140going to be there he was also one of the commissioners and we will sign these for you
00:53:59.140if you if that's your thing we will do it um so you say you're the k-tail man kim says
00:54:06.820it slices it dices it makes julian fries i forgot about that well you know it's something right
00:54:13.780you know the the the full uh uh library or the full report on the uh on the uh national citizens
00:54:21.200where you can't see it i'm looking over on it it's like a set of encyclopedias it's about that
00:54:26.200takes up about that much room on my show wow so okay so let me ask you um ticket sales how are
00:54:35.080they moving are they going faster now okay one thing i know about an event like this is that
00:54:40.380people will just decide to go last minute and when i say last minute like usually within three or
00:54:45.140four days do you want to go do you want to go and then all of a sudden one day they wake up and
00:54:48.580yeah we're going so they're picking up i'll be honest with you ticket sales has been slow in the
00:54:54.320last three or four days they've really started to pick up but if i was to say that i was really
00:55:01.860happy about the sales i would be lying to you um we need folks to show up you know i i've i wasn't
00:55:09.360raised in in winnipeg but i grew up i was in winnipeg for i don't know how many years 40 50
00:55:14.580years and one of the things i always hear people saying is nothing ever comes to winnipeg we're
00:55:20.260the last stop on the train blah blah blah well when we put on things like this and people decide
00:55:25.900not to show up you know we've got 750 or 800 000 people in winnipeg and we can't get enough people
00:55:33.900to fill up 850 seats in a conference that's this important well apparently it's 920 000 people now
00:55:42.580according to the latest stats estimates and and that's a jump of 40 000 people in one year
00:55:48.540perhaps uh illegal immigration is something we can cover at the conference
00:55:52.520well you know proportionally our illegal immigration is much worse than the united
00:56:00.080states you all you hear about is the border the border the border the border well legally we let
00:56:04.400a million people into the country last year now if you project that the american population they're
00:56:08.68010 times their size that means they would have to brought in 10 million last year
00:56:11.980and that's not including the illegals and i get the undocumented it's in and they don't even know
00:56:17.960how many undocumented are here they say get this one it's and you're a numbers guy you'll hate this
00:56:23.900they say it's anywhere between 20 and 500 000 we don't know like what what can there be between
00:56:34.98020 000 and 500 000 and where are they and who are they more importantly we invite them to come to
00:56:45.400and let us know you know maybe they want to help they want to get his back on solid ground i'm sure
00:56:53.280some of them want to help but the problem is we don't know who they are yeah well i mean that well
00:57:00.440I think the liberals are suggesting an amnesty day for illegals so that they
01:07:22.080But should they be confident that none of those MPs are in your caucus or have been in an NDP caucus federally?
01:07:33.300I have no reason to believe in no evidence in front of me, and I've heard no information that in any way suggests new Democrat members of Parliament.
01:07:41.100But I want to get more information. That's why I requested a classified briefing.
01:07:44.440I will be receiving that briefing and looking at that information to confirm.
01:07:50.620I'm not responding, but I've demanded. He doesn't he doesn't get anything because he's the leader of the NDP. Right. Like so overblown. The only thing they have is just enough seats to keep the liberals in power. And that's what he's doing. It's absolutely that in itself, in and of itself is trattorious.
01:08:13.680So look, you've got Paliyev standing up in the House of Commons today asking, who are they?
01:08:20.120You've got Jagmeet Singh there saying he's confident there's no NDP.
01:08:24.700And then you've got the liberals who are saying, well, we're not going to name names for the matter of national security.
01:08:31.400So in my opinion, it's obviously liberals.