00:35:14.940We're four or five years into this nightmare,
00:35:18.120at least as far as I can see, since the beginnings of COVID-19.
00:35:21.780and yet there are still people out there who won't vote they won't go to the polls they won't
00:35:27.900not for any election municipal probably the most they have disdain for but why is that i mean are
00:35:35.520they just not they don't care enough it's not a big enough deal for them after everything they've
00:35:41.100seen that governments can do these past few years well first off you know like that there's a big
00:35:49.200bucket. We've got 40 million people in this country now. Four million of them here illegally.
00:35:56.160But, you know, if we started to look at some of the segments, you know, there are a great
00:36:02.160number of people who are deriving handsome and unearned benefits from government. They don't
00:36:10.160see government as a problem. If you're one of the approximately 4 million people employed by
00:36:16.720the public service who are getting a handsome paycheck every week, get lavish holiday pay
00:36:25.480and sick pay and benefits and get a very handsome pension at the end of it all for doing very
00:36:33.700little often, you know, government is not a problem for them. Then there are those other
00:36:44.800people who um you know i would say two big categories is is one group of people who believe
00:36:54.000that all the parties are the same um and and it doesn't matter which one you liked and there is
00:37:01.040some truth to that obviously if if you're only looking at the establishment parties you're
00:37:06.240absolutely correct you're going to trade one one puppet for another puppet you're going to yeah
00:37:10.800one corrupt red player for a different corrupt blue player and they have opted out of the system
00:37:21.000and then then there's also a large group of people you know that I would say are just
00:37:30.320don't care just don't care um until they themselves become affected and impacted and
00:37:41.940that's what we saw a great number of people in the 2021 election come out to vote for the first time
00:37:48.240um and um but unfortunately i would say the level of mainstream and social media suppression and
00:37:57.580censorship on any COVID dissenters or anti-jab messaging, it got very, very difficult for
00:38:10.720any dissenting voices to be heard. And I would say a lot of Canadians were totally unaware that
00:38:18.740there was choices in 2021 that would have made a big difference. You know, interestingly,
00:38:25.060what you just talked about regarding the censorship happened just the other night i had a
00:38:30.480a vaccine injured woman called michelle on the show and she was talking about her life since
00:38:37.220the injury occurred and it's nightmarish she had to sell her business she had brain surgery now for
00:38:46.380a cyst that's all been caused by this covet vaccine as diagnosed by doctors in the united
00:38:52.620states and youtube took it down for medical misinformation yeah which i found appalling
00:39:00.620so they're still doing that when you were in government let me ask you this
00:39:05.920what was the mood like when this thing started breaking when when covid started happening was
00:39:14.160it panic were there people who were on your side of things but were too scared to speak out
00:39:19.460what was that like so there's some time frames that are important to put in with that question
00:39:26.760I think one is you know for the first couple of weeks the I would say 100% of the people
00:39:36.360were completely uncertain and had grave doubts and uh of just what what was going on um for myself
00:39:45.640Within a few weeks, you could see that whether or not there was a real pandemic or not, what was really real, what was measurable, was the harm that we were doing to people with the lockdowns.
00:40:03.020that came very early uh people not being able to get health care services uh people being isolated
00:40:11.420confined and and essentially scared to death and what we were doing in our long-term care
00:40:17.580facilities and hospitals was just uh i would say it was a premeditated act of murder in my view
00:40:25.500Like we knew when you crammed these long-term care facilities with pushing people out of the hospitals and into them, we knew any reasonable person would know that this would be a catastrophe in the making.
00:40:40.200But, you know, with but for myself, it was pretty obvious within a few weeks that the fears had been exaggerated, that the that the dangers were were manifestly without any evidence at all.
00:41:07.180You know, that you could catch COVID by taking a walk on a nature trail or you could catch COVID by touching an apple in the, you know, and there was others that shared my view in the political realm.
00:41:25.880But they were too fearful of both the backlash from the public and the backlash from their political parties that they chose to remain silent and have done so to this day.
00:41:40.100I know a great many people in the political system, elected representatives who shared my views, but refused to face, you know, they were cowards and they did not want to be leaders.
00:42:01.100And, you know, let's not forget, though, that there was also a great many people profiting from this counterfeit pandemic.
00:42:10.100Doug Ford. Doug Ford profited a great deal from what I understand.
00:42:15.880But compared to David Thompson, the richest man in Canada who owns Thompson Reuters, you know, who owns all so much of our media, owns the Reuters fact checkers.
00:42:28.280And, you know, and and Galen Weston, who owns Shoppers Drug Mart and, you know, charging for every job and every visit to the pharmacies and stuff like, you know, the money that Ford and others made is, you know, in the millions.
00:42:48.300We're talking billions of dollars, and that's not even counting the big, big ones, you know, like Moderna, Pfizer, Amazon, you know, Walmart, Costco.
00:43:02.820Let's shut down every retail business there is except the biggest players, you know, and that's who government serves.
00:43:12.660You know, a lot of people are still under this view that our government is, you know, for the people, by the people, of the people.
00:43:20.960Well, no, it hasn't been that way since Gettysburg, in my humble opinion, or maybe shortly afterwards.
00:43:31.540You know, the governments serve those who have the greatest amount of money.
00:43:39.160and that's not you and i and it's not the people listening to this show that sounds like a george
00:43:44.720carlin bit from 10 12 years ago or before he died i can't remember when that was but yeah it's a big
00:43:50.340club and you ain't in it no um do you think things would have been different could have been different
00:43:56.380if the people who knew that this whole thing was a scam would have spoken up and would have said
00:44:02.160look at we don't mind and and that's the thing i mean you know we got pasted as anti this and
00:44:07.620anti that and next thing you know we're racists and bigots when all we were doing was asking
00:44:11.800questions like how can you develop a vaccine so quickly for a novel virus one that you don't
00:44:18.940apparently understand yet and just by asking that question you were smeared and shouted down and
00:44:28.440othered but if people had the had the strength to stand up against that which i find that more
00:44:35.960and more people seem to be gaining these past few months, couple of years. Do you think things
00:44:41.280could have been different? Oh, absolutely. And they would have been like, I know of at least a
00:44:46.600dozen colleagues in the conservative caucus who either were full on side with my view, or were
00:44:56.540significantly suspicious of what was happening. And, you know, instead, you know, I was on my
00:45:06.780own. I was the only voice speaking in the wilderness until about six months later, then
00:45:14.040one other came out. And then a year later, one more came out. You know, had they had the courage
00:45:24.940at the beginning, it could have easily been stopped because, you know, had we had those
00:45:32.620dozen people in Ontario who I know, like I said, shared my views, well, then that would have been
00:45:39.060a significant voting block within the House. And in the media, it's much easier to tarnish and try
00:45:48.220to, you know, tarnish and discredit one individual than discrediting 12 individuals.
00:45:59.420Were there conversations with these people who had strong suspicions that you had?
00:46:03.860I had, yeah. I had lengthy conversations with Doug Ford's staff at the end of April
00:46:13.200in early May and they all understood that that they too had been duped okay like there's no1.00
00:46:22.540question you know there may be some elected people who knew was a skank from the beginning1.00
00:46:30.100and said nothing but most I would say 99% of elected members in Canada fell into that0.96
00:46:37.700uh that they were duped uh but when i had conversations in april and may with
00:46:43.020doug ford staff they knew by that time um that they had done wrong um but like every good
00:46:51.220bureaucracy every good government uh you can never admit error uh for fear of backlash from
00:47:00.720public as well and and and by that time the frenzy you know the canadian population had
00:47:09.520had been turned into a frenzied mob that could not be easily
00:47:20.320convinced that it wasn't a pandemic you know they were glued to their television sets every day
00:47:27.440looking at new case counts and looking at these exaggerated death rates where somebody who was
00:47:35.520drunk and had a head-on collision and they did an autopsy on him after and they found that there was
00:47:40.000a fragment of COVID in him and he's a COVID death not that he was a drunk driver and ran headlong
00:47:46.520into a rock cliff you know so people were gripped and you know and that's that's that's what fear
00:47:55.640does you know the the the phrase you know caught in the headlights uh you know you're gripped and
00:48:02.280and you can't think rationally uh but you know fear is a is supposed to be a very momentary and
00:48:09.720very temporary uh uh period of time and um we had people gripped into fear for a couple of years
00:48:19.880oh even more even still i mean yesterday i saw half a dozen people still walking around with0.96
00:48:26.440these stupid face masks on it's gotten to the point now where i will actually stop somebody1.00
00:48:31.700and say what do you think that is doing for you aside from making you look like an idiot1.00
00:48:36.360right i mean i'm i'm there at that stage of the game right now where i'm going like what are you0.99
00:48:41.440doing you're you're exfixiating yourself listen i just get it as nice and close as close as i can
00:48:47.340to them um and that's it or maybe you play around with them a little bit and say they asked one of
00:48:54.920them a question one of them yesterday he was a clerk at a at a supermarket i go to and you get
00:48:59.620up to him and you say hey uh is there a a sale on these things i'm sorry i can't hear you and0.52
00:49:06.060i can't hear you can you take that freaking thing off your face so i can hear you they get the wild
00:49:10.740eyes and they walk away listen the businesses there's how many businesses still have plexiglass0.97
00:49:17.040shields up uh you know like uh like surely they would you know a reasonable intelligent individual
00:49:27.260operating a retail store uh would have said okay this this you know i don't have to do this anymore
00:49:34.240i don't have to have the masks on um i don't need to have the plexiglass up uh let's go back to being
00:49:41.880normal um you know i you know as much as we point the fingers and we ought to point the fingers at
00:49:48.920um the politicians it's more important i believe to point the fingers at the
00:49:53.720uh corporate robber barons who were engaged in this as well as the entrenched administration but1.00
00:50:01.160But let's not deflect it or absolve all the stupid people.1.00
00:50:18.380But, you know, in my conversation with Michelle a couple of nights ago, the vaccine injured woman, you can't because these people are still suffering greatly from everything.
00:50:30.740that that's been put on them and falling through the cracks in terms of medical attention they she
00:50:38.580can't even get doctors in british columbia where she lives to look at her because of her injuries
00:50:44.260and the way they've been diagnosed in the united states they won't even touch it so
00:50:49.900i met a lady yesterday she's about 87 one of her friends um has a daughter who's nine years old
00:50:58.680uh it was requiring um significant medical attention um and the children's hospital of
00:51:05.540eastern ontario uh will not treat her or or see her uh because she's not vaccinated still um
00:51:14.740now um you know these are um you know but i'll go back like i did a series of about a dozen
00:51:21.960interviews uh between june and august i believe it was 2020 of people who who had family members
00:51:32.440uh die suddenly or have significant injuries after shortly after getting the vaccine
00:51:41.160um and actually facebook still has those videos up they they were censored off youtube
00:51:47.640they were censored off twitter but for some reason you have facebook yeah uh allowed them to come up
00:51:54.200but in one week i put out a call you know is there anybody getting uh who else is getting
00:52:00.120injured or feeling that there's some side effects to these things i had over 3 000
00:52:07.320emails that week and but only a dozen of them would appear on to do a live interview with me
00:52:17.640they were scared everybody else was too scared out of 3 000 um i got 12 people to yeah and even at
00:52:27.320that i had to uh somewhat obscure um i would only use their first name and i would only use the
00:52:37.160province where they lived not their town or last name um and um but that you know like that
00:52:48.840speaks volumes to me uh when you know out of 3 000 people who you know these are serious
00:52:58.120you know guillaume bar syndrome uh clots paralyzation death um in their families and um
00:53:07.160And they refused to speak and inform and warn others of the very dangers that they were facing.
00:56:32.620So that was a difficult thing for the media
00:56:37.760to challenge me on too much or to discredit me.
00:56:41.060um um but it was uh and then i started getting into the uh where it really came uh where they
00:56:50.120went after me big time is when uh um i started doing live interviews at my house with doctors
00:56:58.520and others um you know beside one another on the front porch you know like two feet away
00:57:07.240um without a mask without a mask um and uh showing i was attempting to show people that
00:57:15.600there was nothing to be fearful of and uh and that i would never ask somebody to do something
00:57:20.520that i was not prepared to do um and uh so that really started uh the oma was one of the first
00:57:30.320ones the ontario medical association was one of the first ones to come after me uh with petitions
00:57:36.280and calling for my removal from the legislature when i went after the mask mandates
00:57:44.360because again that was foolhardy an elementary school science
00:57:51.240grade five science kid would know that a mask doesn't stop
00:57:57.960a microscopic virus that is smaller than the the weave in the mask and by a hundred times
00:58:06.040by a hundred times at least yeah crazy and um you know and and the and the whole you know i went
00:58:13.600after the whole notion like um you can't be social if you're distanced uh like that's that's a that's0.92
00:58:20.700a bullshit phrase um you know this wasn't uh you know that lockdowns were a term to use in prisons0.99
00:58:30.600not in a free society um so i went after you know in all this bullshit well my mask protects you1.00
00:58:40.400your mask protects me bullshit like that's um so uh so when i went after the mass the that's when0.99
00:58:48.500also the the local public health unit went after me um as uh as well as the municipal governments0.98
00:58:55.940in my riding all past resolutions to censor me and remove me and and and of course they
00:59:05.400really went crazy when I with the no more lockdown rallies I hosted you know I was in
00:59:15.700we had no more lockdown rallies throughout the province I received a multitude of fines
00:59:23.140and charges on those i'm still fighting a number of them um so um you know and then of course
00:59:31.140when i started putting out those videos about vaccine injuries
00:59:35.960or suspected or probable vaccine injuries and of course i did all kinds of other things you know
00:59:45.400i sent letters to the opp demanding that they investigate open up a criminal investigation into
00:59:51.020these sudden and unexpected uh deaths uh uh i i did um i used my helen ruth in ottawa did the uh
01:00:03.320the ottawa police officer who was investigating the death of of the babies there i mean she's
01:00:08.620been on trial for two years now yeah yeah and but but that was so i had sent a i think it was in
01:00:16.680September or October of 2021, uh, because the, uh, the job came out in, in January, February,
01:00:25.260um, of, uh, 2021. Um, and it was obvious. I got my first, uh, wind of people dying in May of,
01:00:35.660uh, 2021. Um, by, by September, October, I had plenty of credible evidence that something was
01:00:44.000going on um and asked the rcmp the local municipal police and um and the rcmp to launch an
01:00:54.760investigation into this uh uh helen i think got uh she got uh when did they lay that i think they
01:01:03.140laid the charges against her just just prior to the convoy um i think in in january of 2022
01:01:10.560uh but um you know it was evident to anybody that was awake and alert and was somewhat
01:01:18.980knowledgeable um that uh we were killing people
01:01:25.100yeah you know if you drop anybody in from outer space let's say they've been in outer space for
01:01:34.620two years and they come back to all of this nonsense these would be the obvious questions
01:01:39.700they would be asking why are you wearing that thing on your face what are you doing taking
01:01:43.780this thing why are you accusing this woman of a crime all she's trying to do is find out what's
01:01:48.640going on yeah but and others are are saying the same thing so like she had ample credible evidence
01:01:58.620to support her investigation and you know who ought to be under police conduct tribunals is
01:02:11.760every one of the other 3,000 Ottawa police officers who were negligent and failed in that duty
01:02:19.820speaking of Ottawa when the convoy was announced when you first heard about this
01:02:26.800did you have hope at that stage of the game was it like all right man we're finally starting to
01:02:31.700fight back here people from all across the country are are coming out I knew eventually we would win
01:02:38.900and you know and so for the prior two years I was involved in all these no more lockdown rallies
01:02:44.460where we were building up um interest you know the first rallies that I had uh shadow were you
01:02:51.120know I may have had 50 or 60 people at them and then but we kept doing them we kept doing them
01:02:56.400And we did them in other communities around the province.
01:03:00.520And, you know, and then we were into the hundreds and the 500s and the thousands of people coming out to these rallies.
01:03:07.880So this was I knew this from my days in the landowners, that you have to take the time to build up people's confidence and courage and motivation.
01:03:20.440You know, because typically people don't want to be confrontational.
01:03:25.300people want to be law-abiding uh people want to be uh to get along with one another and so it takes
01:03:33.940you know that's our natural state and we have to yeah um but as more and more harms came
01:03:40.620and more and more evidence came out that what we were doing was wrong and as more and more
01:03:47.580protests were happening and i'm just talking about ontario but you know that these protests
01:03:54.440were happening from coast to coast um in 2020 and 2021 and and uh you know it just so happened that
01:04:06.440the announcement of the jab on truckers became the catalyst to take up all that
01:04:16.440built up motivation and all that built up confidence to now have a singular event
01:04:26.840for everybody to come out of the woodwork and it was very successful like every every
01:04:33.800provincial government every government in this country announced an end to the mandates
01:04:39.000well we were in ottawa every one of them yeah um and uh you know unfortunately uh you know yeah
01:04:49.080justin trudeau had uh created a false narrative of uh an attempted overthrow and an insurrection
01:04:57.960uh in a fascist and you know he had used exceptionally vile insightful inflammatory
01:05:06.040language to describe um um freedom protesters uh and uh let me ask your like your i'm going to
01:05:16.120stop you there for one second let me ask you you were there i mean you you had your charges recently
01:05:21.360withdrawn from your convoy charges anyway they were withdrawn congratulations on that by the
01:05:27.420way sorry you're still fighting these other ones but i'm happy to hear that they've withdrawn your
01:05:31.420convoy charges. What did you see when you were there? The only thing anybody could see there
01:05:40.200was exuberance, exhilaration, the most joyful, fun-filled display
01:05:52.580of happiness and friendliness and never in my I don't think we will ever see another display of
01:06:05.600such exuberance and friendliness and joy in our nation's capital like this was a