The Shadoe Davis Show - October 15, 2026


Oct. 14th⧸2026-Will Alberta Waste a Golden Opportunity? w⧸Jeffrey Rath

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00:03:30.000 Hello, everybody.
00:03:57.800 Welcome to the Shadow Davis Show.
00:03:59.360 This is Wednesday, October the 14th, 2026, and a special guest on the show tonight.
00:04:06.020 Haven't had him on in a couple of months.
00:04:07.620 It's Jeff Rath, a famous lawyer from Rath & Company, who is also one of the foremost
00:04:12.040 voices for Alberta sovereignty, has been for the past couple of years.
00:04:16.480 And seeing as how advanced voting in Alberta has already begun, it started on Monday.
00:04:21.160 We thought we'd get Jeff on to talk about how he feels this might go.
00:04:26.140 some people are suggesting that maybe there could be an upset victory the actual vote voting day is
00:04:32.980 not until this coming monday we're not sure if we're going to have results that same day if we're
00:04:37.160 going to have to wait for a couple of days while they count them up but we'll soon see i suppose
00:04:42.860 advanced voting is interesting the advanced numbers so far mentioned by elections alberta
00:04:47.260 yesterday. 174,532 people cast their vote in advance voting on Monday. Already 418,000 mail-in
00:05:02.120 ballots have been approved by Elections Alberta, which means that we've got roughly 600,000 votes
00:05:08.360 in already. Compare that to the Alberta general election in 2023, when day one of advanced polling
00:05:16.500 had only 151,727 votes.
00:05:20.600 So it seems as though people are very engaged
00:05:23.520 in this referendum.
00:05:25.020 There are nine questions
00:05:26.080 and there's a big push on social media
00:05:29.340 the last few days that says decline the nine,
00:05:32.920 the nine questions on the referendum ballot.
00:05:35.440 So we're gonna talk to Jeff Rath about that
00:05:36.960 in just a couple of minutes.
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00:05:39.840 I wanna show you guys this
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00:05:43.480 about the possibility of Alberta leaving Confederation and maybe Saskatchewan as well,
00:05:49.740 because that would be the next logical step, some people say, including Elon Musk.
00:05:55.680 But did you know that Canada's borders have changed, shifted a great deal since Confederation
00:06:01.900 in 1867? For those of you that don't know, here's a quick one minute video that will show you year
00:06:08.320 by year how Canada looked and how it looks today.
00:06:13.480 Thank you.
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00:07:13.480 so who's to say those borders can't shift one more time jeff rat oh by the way we're out on
00:07:21.220 all the big social medias tonight you guys so don't forget to like and share get this out there
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00:07:35.480 button if you're watching on facebook hello to all of the all access nighthawks watching at
00:07:40.740 shadow davis.com and in the telegram telegram group which is called the shadow at night community
00:07:46.420 hello jeff how are you my friend i'm good shadow thanks for having me on it's good to have you
00:07:53.100 back on uh so i was just mentioning the advanced numbers are you surprised that a hundred and
00:07:57.560 almost 175 000 people have cast their votes and that was monday tuesday i believe along with the
00:08:03.720 418 000 people who have mailed in their ballots already it seems high to me for some yeah it's
00:08:10.420 going to be interesting i mean like well don't forget i mean we had people lined up into the
00:08:14.760 dark january nights to sign our petition right like tens of thousands of people lining up into
00:08:20.660 the dark in january to you know to have a to have a have an actual vote uh on independence right so
00:08:27.800 no this doesn't surprise me you know one one little bit i think people in alberta are very
00:08:33.280 engaged i think i think people are going to be surprised by the result i think lots of people
00:08:37.540 like nenji and you know all the people on you know on team communism so daniel smith jason kenny
00:08:43.220 nenji notley carney um you know uh all the retreads um harper manning i mean can you believe
00:08:52.100 all those people are all on the same side like what does that tell you when all of those politicians
00:08:57.180 right are all on the same side they're the ones that created the mess that we live in they've
00:09:02.400 destroyed our country right they've given us rampant inflation our dollars worth about a
00:09:06.880 10th of what it was 20 years ago you know people can barely afford groceries every time you go to
00:09:12.580 the grocery store you can put fewer and fewer groceries in your grocery cart while our you
00:09:17.400 know while our dictators get a fly around on private jets slathering themselves in luxury
00:09:22.560 butter right yeah i mean people are angry right so i you know i wouldn't be surprised if uh you
00:09:28.940 know we you know that you know we've already got hundreds of thousands of votes for independence
00:09:32.680 you know i mean a lot of the mail-in ballots i've been hearing it's all the union so there's
00:09:36.720 been a big push by the unions right to get the mail-in ballots to ask for mail-in ballots but
00:09:41.740 one of the funniest things is you get all these parents that are union members like the 55 year
00:09:46.180 old woman that's a social worker and she's a qp employee or whatever for the you know government
00:09:51.240 of canada and she's telling all of her kids you got to get a mail-in ballot i'm sending off and
00:09:55.660 getting mail-in ballots for you right and then all their kids are voting for independence right
00:09:59.960 because their kids want a future you know that's interesting you say that because
00:10:05.000 the the elbows up crowd uh which is the mark carney crowd the liberal crowd right they they're
00:10:13.140 all in favor of keeping canada together as you say the younger people are voting in favor of
00:10:18.300 independence and that breaks down the voting lines between conservative voters across canada
00:10:24.060 and liberal voters all across the country so that's no great surprise to me are you are you
00:10:29.020 seeing a lot of people out there feeling betrayed by not just mark carney and the liberal government
00:10:34.120 but danielle smith stephen harper pierre polyev you know i mean you as far as we're concerned
00:10:41.800 as far as we're concerned danielle smith is a traitor right she's not as far as we're concerned
00:10:46.900 you know she's she's on the same side as jason kenny the most despised man in alberta right
00:10:52.280 yeah you know great jason and rachel notley i laughed there was like 369 people who watched it
00:10:57.400 but jason kenney um just did a podcast with rachel notley for goodness sake so two of the
00:11:04.020 worst premiers in alberta history right are doing a podcast together and guess how many people tuned
00:11:10.740 in to watch it right well more people watching your show tonight 369 people wanted to watch
00:11:17.640 jason kenney i've got it i've got it i've got a 13 second clip from that podcast i'm going to
00:11:23.000 throw it up right now here uh the idea of making the threat by holding a knife to the throat of
00:11:29.060 the federation is how you end up as a have-not province like quebec instead of the ultimate
00:11:34.380 have province like alberta so what what he's saying there jeff which i find shocking is that
00:11:42.940 alberta would wind up being a have-not province uh by holding a knife to the throat of the federation
00:11:49.760 where alberta and quebec are different is the fact that i mean there's so much oil and gas
00:11:56.500 production and even more exploration going on right now in the tar sands in alberta all over
00:12:01.500 the place and quebec has got a law in place that says you can't even look for oil and gas in that
00:12:07.280 province what's is that jason kenny this is a turbine yeah we've been we he's been having fun
00:12:15.860 like he likes insulting me and calling me names so he's called me a traitorous kook and then the
00:12:19.960 other last week he was referring to me as boss hog again but um but i was laughing i said isn't 0.56
00:12:25.540 that funny sabu the elephant boy wants to call people's names right like so everybody all week
00:12:32.720 has been having fun at kenny's expense and we've all been referring to him as sabu the elephant boy
00:12:37.900 because that's what he is right and nobody takes him seriously everybody thinks kenny's a big joke
00:12:42.800 right and here he is just making stuff up like alberta is sitting on somewhere depending on who
00:12:49.720 you talk to recoverable reserves versus non-recoverable reserves you know whatever
00:12:53.740 somewhere between 15 and 25 trillion dollars worth of oil okay at current market prices right
00:13:01.940 and we're this year with the high oil prices and the fact i mean alberta went from having a nine
00:13:07.920 billion dollar deficit to now we're probably gonna have a nine or ten billion dollar surplus
00:13:12.000 so you can just imagine how much extra equalization that means that we're sending the 0.55
00:13:17.100 carny so that he can piss it away on ukraine or you know whatever you know spaceports in nova
00:13:22.360 scotia or whatever other dumb things he wants to spend alberta money on right but you know so we're
00:13:27.780 sending we're going to be sending over 90 billion dollars a year this year to ottawa and we're going
00:13:33.200 to get less than 20 billion dollars a year back so mr kenny like let's put on your little math hat
00:13:38.880 take your turban off and like let's do some math okay you tell me how we're going to be a have not
00:13:45.380 province if we have an extra 70 billion dollars a year in revenue that stays in the province of
00:13:51.080 alberta and not necessarily tax revenue because from our perspective more than half of that should
00:13:56.340 go to tax cuts so we should eliminate federal income tax we should eliminate um you know carbon
00:14:02.000 tax you know any decarbonization costs all that nonsense gone we can use plastic straws again i
00:14:08.060 mean think about that right like all of these silly regulations that have been stuffed down
00:14:12.560 our throats we can keep our guns you know all this stuff that the feds have been doing to us
00:14:16.520 over the last number of years all of that follows from independence but kenny thinks this is a
00:14:21.180 horrible thing does he even know albertans like does he understand who we are as a people like
00:14:27.040 does he understand that you know that albertans want less government i mean i put up a post on
00:14:32.280 x this week i should have sent it to you but i was basically saying guys like this is the most
00:14:37.420 important week of your life you have an opportunity to go out and vote to eliminate an entire level of
00:14:44.640 government you can vote to eliminate an entire level of crooked politicians that have their
00:14:50.440 hands in your pockets on a constant basis federal get rid of all federal taxes all federal regulations
00:14:56.660 all of the nonsense that has been bedeviling us for decades we can completely eliminate by you
00:15:03.880 know by voting for option two right and even if we can't completely eliminate we've got the we've
00:15:09.040 got the leverage to tell Ottawa like this stuff has to stop because if it doesn't stop we're really
00:15:14.000 gone right so you know I'm excited about it I mean everybody you know I keep telling everybody you
00:15:19.820 got to get out and vote like your lives and the lives of your family and the lives of your children
00:15:24.620 depend on it because they do you want a prosperous future free from federal taxation free from
00:15:30.900 federal regulation uh you know free from uh you know constant interference in our economy by 0.99
00:15:36.520 idiots that don't like us right or you want a free and prosperous future where all of the money 0.99
00:15:43.100 that's generated and earned by albertans stays in alberta i mean what a wonderful place this is 1.00
00:15:48.200 going to be jeff what is the canada strong and free network i have no idea okay the reason i
00:15:57.360 ask you that the reason i don't know okay the reason i ask you that pop-up groups not enough
00:16:04.540 time well no the reason i ask you that is because i see that they're having this great big federalist
00:16:09.800 you okay am i still on the screen or did we lose video no you're still there you're frozen but
00:16:21.680 There you are, okay.
00:16:26.960 You see, Jem gets animated, and when he gets animated,
00:16:29.820 he starts hitting things, and then things fall off the top of the desk
00:16:33.840 and the top of the computer screen, and so we have to reset.
00:16:37.500 Do you want to pop out and come back in, my friend?
00:16:39.680 You can do that.
00:16:42.380 Oh, okay, so he has entered in a different...
00:16:44.880 Hang on just a second here.
00:16:46.580 A little technical difficulty.
00:16:48.320 what the thing fell off the top of your screen is that it yeah well i don't i was trying to
00:16:56.700 actually move i noticed that the camera was cutting off the top of my head so i was trying
00:17:00.420 to move my uh move my computer back and i fell forward or fell off the stand and i had so that's
00:17:06.640 all just a minor technical difficulty it's one of the problems that we have at home studios
00:17:10.660 camera people okay so i was asking about the canada strong and free network because this
00:17:15.640 weekend they've got a big federalist rally coming up in calgary and you're going to have i think
00:17:21.000 steven harper danielle smith amongst the speakers and they're selling tickets for 75 yeah yeah yeah
00:17:26.760 and i'm wondering like how has it felt you know especially in these past few months when all of
00:17:32.580 the politicians provincially and federally have been lining up against you and your group it must
00:17:39.540 be overwhelming no it's awesome because it's demonstrating to everybody in alberta who the
00:17:46.900 enemy is right they're demonstrating on a daily basis that these people are not for the people
00:17:53.300 right like you know like when they put when they pretend fight when they play fight right
00:17:58.440 oh jason kenny doesn't like rachel notley and daniel smith doesn't like rachel notley and
00:18:03.200 you know and oh and we all really don't like justin trudeau and mark carney until we're all
00:18:07.500 on the same side of the issue which is oh my god seven or eight hundred thousand a million
00:18:11.800 albertans are so pissed off that they want to cut off the gravy train and actually develop a new
00:18:17.400 constitution that completely eliminates the westminster model of governance and develops
00:18:22.620 a real constitution where politicians can be thrown in jail for all of their corruption
00:18:27.560 so oh my goodness now they're all united against the people and the people can see what it is you
00:18:33.960 know who they are right i think it's awesome like i was talking to a reporter from the uh from the
00:18:39.460 toronto red star today and she was really shocked she's like oh are you really worried that mark
00:18:44.620 carney is going to come to alberta for a week i laughed i said no i said i'm thrilled that he's
00:18:50.000 coming to alberta for a week he's the i said after jason kenny mark carney is the most reviled man
00:18:56.060 in alberta i said i love the fact that he believes his own polling and thinks that he's so popular
00:19:02.080 that he's going to turn the tide of federalism in alberta back towards canada i said every time
00:19:07.420 that man opens his mouth he reminds albertans how corrupt the country is i mean we all know
00:19:13.200 about his offshore you know stock holdings we all know that all brookfield's assets are now
00:19:18.080 invested in the united states in u.s dollars while carney craters the u.s dollar we all know
00:19:23.240 that every time he picks our pockets for another two billion dollars to go to heat pumps you know
00:19:28.560 made by a company owned by brookfield that you know that he's winding his pockets we all know
00:19:33.840 that every time he talks about nuclear reactors that are being built by westinghouse which is
00:19:38.340 owned by brookfield carney is winding his pockets you know every time that man opens his mouth 0.98
00:19:44.040 right albertans are going yeah you're a crook we don't even want to hear from you so i was telling
00:19:49.660 the star reporter i said i'm thrilled he's coming to alberta and then what does he do like today it 0.78
00:19:53.940 was awesome right he announced that he has no intention whatsoever of even talking about
00:19:59.960 equalization again until 2029 right right every time mark carney opens his mouth i was explaining
00:20:07.940 to this reporter for the red star that every time he opens his mouth he reminds another thousand
00:20:13.780 albertans to go out and vote for independence so i mean i'm thrilled that he's here this week
00:20:17.840 you know it's again i'm thrilled that link in arms with daniel smith and they're hugging each
00:20:23.540 other and they're hugging harper and they're all loving one another because they're all there
00:20:28.520 against the people and i think you know they want to you know they want to show albertans
00:20:33.000 who the enemy is they're proving it every single day and i'm glad for it why is it that you know
00:20:39.960 in quebec we've we've just seen a separatist government get elected and no left-wing corporate
00:20:45.920 media in this country has called them separatist at all that i've seen outside of the country i
00:20:51.560 I mean, even the BBC has called them separatists,
00:20:53.860 but not the CBC, not Global, not CTV, none of them.
00:20:58.160 And yet you guys...
00:20:59.760 You can't be rude to sovereignists from Quebec.
00:21:04.100 They'll get mad, and they won't vote liberal.
00:21:08.080 Right.
00:21:08.720 So, you know, I mean, it's double standard.
00:21:11.220 And there's Jason Kenney, another post on Twitter this week.
00:21:14.200 He's just been insulting Alberta independence people all week.
00:21:17.800 you know the saps the saps the evil saps and the seppies they need to be thrown out of the ucp they 0.98
00:21:24.460 have infiltrated our party and they need to be kicked to the curb they have no business being 0.99
00:21:29.580 in a civilized political party we hate them we need to get rid i mean i'm serious the vitriol 0.99
00:21:35.220 is just ridiculous right and i was laughing today i posted because i was actually like calgary if
00:21:40.360 you don't if you don't live here if you don't know it calgary is actually just a really big small
00:21:44.760 town when it comes right down to it like everybody is like one degree of separation from somebody
00:21:49.420 else and i was talking to somebody today and they said oh my god jeff i was talking to i was actually
00:21:55.080 talking to jason kenny's brother the other day and jason kenny's brother apparently who lives
00:22:00.980 with jason kenny so yeah the two of us can't even talk politics i don't even understand what that
00:22:05.400 guy's doing i'm fully on board with alberta independence right and so apparently kenny has
00:22:11.720 he has two brothers one of the brothers that lives with him is fully on board for alberta
00:22:15.980 independence can't understand why jason is against it other than jason's a grifter and 0.68
00:22:20.460 everybody that pays kenny you know is against independence right the chinese communists that
00:22:25.460 hire bennett that he works for against independence nancy southern is going to make billions that's 0.92
00:22:30.420 his boss at atco is going to make billions off of all the net zero power grid stuff that carny's
00:22:36.500 up for alberta right um so you know jay you know jason kenny's literally getting paid to fight
00:22:42.260 independence to keep all of mark carney's insane net zero policies in place so it's no wonder that
00:22:48.500 he takes the position that he takes because everybody in his orbit is getting rich off of 0.95
00:22:52.920 the stuff all the people making billions off of that stupid decarbonization pathways alliance 0.94
00:22:57.940 program right you know kenny's tied into all of those people so so is daniel smith i mean they're 0.94
00:23:03.620 all you know they're all getting paid right so no wonder they're taking the positions that they're
00:23:08.680 taking what about steven okay now this is interesting because i can understand you know
00:23:13.800 polyev and his caucus standing up for canada as as a federation i can see that because they're
00:23:20.620 elected politicians and they need to stand up for the country i get that but we'll take them aside
00:23:25.240 let's talk about people like as you're right jason kenny steven harper you know all of these
00:23:31.000 politicians who have passed their prime they're no longer sitting in office and yet they're sitting
00:23:35.480 there saying we need to stay as a united canada alberta needs a new deal in a united canada
00:23:41.680 and as you know like kenny kenny has got these connections to all of the net zero companies and
00:23:48.000 funds that mark carney is running what about stephen harper well same right i mean harper
00:23:54.620 now is running some sort of alberta investment pension fund or whatever so he's been put in
00:23:59.780 you know basically a you know a million dollar a year job by daniel smith and of course we know
00:24:05.280 that daniel smith is basically a hand puppet for steven there for um mark carney now right so you
00:24:12.280 know daniel smith is is harper's boss and they're all on the same side right i mean they're all
00:24:17.260 they're all connected financially right and it's no surprise that they all sing the same tune i
00:24:23.320 mean you know manning's another one right he's for years the manning foundation has been funded
00:24:27.820 by billionaire money in alberta the manix you know uh fred not fred manix but ron manix and
00:24:32.860 the manix has been funding uh you know have been funding um uh manning for years and years and
00:24:39.580 there's the so-called reconfederationists right they're the ones that called us to a meeting
00:24:44.040 you know back in 2025 so that oh yeah we want you guys to be a creditable thread and we want you to
00:24:50.600 you know like to be able to win a referendum to have a vote or to have a vote so that we can then 0.99
00:24:55.620 swoop in and get rid of all you irresponsible yahoos that aren't real you know politicians 1.00
00:25:01.500 and aren't responsible adults and then we the responsible adults will take over the negotiation 0.99
00:25:07.040 with canada to reconfederize the country uh you know and renegotiate a you know a better deal for
00:25:14.280 alberta within canada right but again you know it's you know and who else you know michael
00:25:19.760 binion's involved in that like binion was the one that called that meeting and he was just you know
00:25:24.020 like basically just rude right telling me you know telling modri and i that um you know you
00:25:28.700 know keep up the good work but you know like you know at the end of the day we're gonna punt you
00:25:32.420 guys to the side and us responsible uh you know adults that don't actually believe in independence
00:25:38.240 will take over the negotiations because you people that actually want independence or a bunch of 0.99
00:25:43.620 you know basically drunken yahoos that don't know your ass from a hole in the ground right 0.99
00:25:48.220 well that's what that's what harper said in that editorial that he wrote i forget if it was in the 0.99
00:25:52.860 national post or the globe and mail he said there's no credible leadership amongst the alberta
00:25:57.700 sovereignist group at all so why would you bother i mean we're all we're all better educated than
00:26:03.880 steven harper you know we're all you know like i have i have an honors degree in poli sci from the
00:26:08.320 university of alberta i have an honors degree in law from the london school of economics i won cases
00:26:13.000 at the supreme court of canada right you know am i a credible leader no because i don't ever want
00:26:18.260 to be a leader i don't have the temperament for it i mean i couldn't sit in meetings with the 1.00
00:26:22.320 same morons moronic bureaucrats week after week after week listening to the same bullshit excuses 1.00
00:26:27.880 as to why they're not doing what they're supposed to do without actually losing my mind right like 1.00
00:26:32.680 couldn't do it like i don't have the temperament for it i've never i've always said i never have
00:26:37.080 any intention whatsoever of running for public office because i do not have the temperament for
00:26:42.120 it like i've sat in those meetings i've negotiated you know 100 you know 100 million dollar deals
00:26:47.100 you know with federal bureaucrats on behalf of clients right i know what those people are like
00:26:52.160 they bore me to death i hate being in rooms with those people right so you know obviously there has
00:26:58.180 to be you know there has to be other people that have you know and i am to deal with that kind of 0.97
00:27:05.400 bullshit on a week-to-week basis but it's none of these people talking about it's not harper he 0.73
00:27:10.840 can't be trusted he's bought and paid for you know uh binion has constant interest at the yin yang 1.00
00:27:15.980 all of these so-called reconfederationists they're part of the problem like they're the you know
00:27:20.540 they're basically the billionaire class that have been picking our pockets for you know for years
00:27:25.560 um you know uh you know to you know to their own benefit i mean murray edwards you know daniel
00:27:31.800 smith's patron for years and years and years i mean you know was forcing his employees at cnrl
00:27:37.800 to get vaccinated against their will during covid or lose their jobs right i mean these aren't people
00:27:43.240 that stand for the people right these are people that stand for their own profits and their own
00:27:48.520 bottom line and you know you know like where my next castle in england is coming from where my
00:27:53.540 next chateau in france and my next villa in italy is going to get paid for and you know all that
00:27:58.980 kind of stuff i mean they're not you know they're not albertans they're people that make money off 0.95
00:28:03.580 of albertans hard-working albertans and then frankly they don't give a shit about it you know 0.69
00:28:08.000 what's interesting is i can see a day and let's just play suppose here suppose the referendum 0.73
00:28:13.460 on monday and all the votes are tallied up and guess what you win the sovereignist side wins
00:28:19.100 they get let's just say that right so this is a referendum about a referendum going forward so
00:28:24.440 if you win then you get an actual referendum for the people maybe sometime next year springtime
00:28:30.960 let's say and let's say you win that here here's what i think is going to happen if in fact that
00:28:37.740 comes to pass you'll have people like jason kenney and stephen harper and danielle smith
00:28:44.060 all running to be the new president of the new independent country of alberta i can see that
00:28:50.140 happening or somebody they control they're really good at finding hand puppets right like yeah you
00:28:56.940 know trudeau was effectively carney's hand puppet you know like carney had his hand up trudeau's
00:29:01.820 backside made his mouth move right like you know the first kick it pumps right that that didn't
00:29:07.020 come from trudeau that came from carney it's you know heat pumps are a brookfield thing they own
00:29:11.200 the heat pump company right so you know but when trudeau delivered that people were making fun of 0.90
00:29:15.800 them because anybody that understands how he they're they're not worth a shit under you know
00:29:22.340 um you know five you know under minus five degrees they don't work right yeah and you need you know
00:29:28.340 backup heat anyway to keep people from freezing to death and then they claim this is all about
00:29:32.960 saving energy and not you know whatever but the one thing nobody wants to talk about about heat
00:29:38.100 pumps right is the one thing they are really good for because i had them on a house in bc
00:29:43.060 they're awesome air conditioners in the summer so you know you put all these heat pumps on houses
00:29:48.980 that don't can't actually use them to heat their places in the winter but instead of you know us
00:29:53.760 doing what you know country folk normally do which is what i do in my place you know like out in the
00:29:58.000 country we have phantom screens on all of our doors we just leave the screens open and we have
00:30:01.900 a nice breeze blowing through the house you know all summer long we don't have air conditioning
00:30:05.280 whatever whatever but everybody will now go oh i have this awesome heat pump so i'm going to close
00:30:10.300 the doors i'm not going to use my screens anymore and now i'm going to burn electricity and burn
00:30:14.700 energy all summer long because i can right so how does that help climate change right it doesn't 0.98
00:30:21.640 but no but you don't want to know the new thing they're doing for to you know to sell this shit 0.96
00:30:25.900 and it's the same thing that they do with everything they're using health canada there 0.99
00:30:30.120 was a health canada missive that came out recently that talked about the health risks to canadians
00:30:35.700 of having to live in buildings over 75 degrees fahrenheit or over whatever the equivalent is in
00:30:41.880 celsius and how this is really bad for our health and it's going to cause heart disease and all this
00:30:46.180 other stuff so they're going to force these heat pumps and air conditioning units on residential
00:30:51.660 landlords residential apartment buildings you know all of this stuff under the name of health
00:30:59.980 right because health canada has said so because they're again using health canada as a marketing
00:31:06.820 arm right for brookfield in the same way that they used health canada as a marketing arm for
00:31:12.240 pfizer and moderna and astrazeneca and whatever else right and you know and again you know post
00:31:18.020 covid um you know health canada shifted from doing all this um uh you know all the covid nonsense
00:31:24.820 because you can't let a good emergency go to waste no sooner was covered over or over the
00:31:29.540 theresa tam declared another public health emergency this time climate change is a public
00:31:35.860 health emergency right so right so and big causes of climate change i think we've talked about this
00:31:42.580 before because it's so ludicrous right capitalism ableism and heteronormativity are the big drivers
00:31:50.280 of climate change and this all has to be stamped out right heteronormativity what what heteronormativity
00:31:57.220 i swear to god it's in it's in this document that theresa tamplin right and of course capitalism
00:32:01.920 we can't have a thriving economy because the more our economy thrives in the capitalist system
00:32:06.420 right um the more fossil fuels we burn so capitalism drives um climate change right so we
00:32:12.980 have to turn canada into a command economy where the government controls everything through a
00:32:17.880 socialist system that'll destroy our economy and they can turn down our thermostats or turn them
00:32:23.080 up as the case may be you know at will through the centrally planned economy ableism we can have
00:32:28.480 people who are healthy and able to work going to work because healthy you know able-bodied people
00:32:33.400 that go to work actually burn carbon to do it right and heteronormativity because oh my god
00:32:40.180 well you know and i'll use the offensive term that sometimes gay people apply to you know to 1.00
00:32:44.780 normal you know like to you know like heterosexual couples the goddamn breeders making children all 1.00
00:32:51.620 these children you know need to stay warm they need to be driven to school you know they burn 0.98
00:32:59.400 carbon right like so you know like the nuclear family is a cause of climate change because all 1.00
00:33:05.380 of the goddamn breeders right um use more carbon than single gay people dude you what you got to 1.00
00:33:12.680 is this how you talk in front of the the crowds who come out to support independence in all of 1.00
00:33:20.960 the rural communities in alberta because it's a great comedy yeah of course it is why do you
00:33:26.060 find me so entertaining you are i mean it's it's actually it's actually quite funny but you want
00:33:33.720 to know what all everything that jeff just said you guys well it may be funny the way he delivered
00:33:38.280 it it's all basically in a book called uh limits to growth which came out yeah yeah it's all there
00:33:43.820 so getting back to alberta no there's another document i wrote a sub stack about it uh last
00:33:51.060 year the year before there's another document and it was an annual report of the public health
00:33:57.080 agency of canada it's like an 80 or 90 page document where it was just like the you know
00:34:02.600 like the month before teresa tam you know stopped being the chief medical officer of health for
00:34:08.880 canada and went back to collect her you know her august medal from the communist chinese for
00:34:13.980 service to the regime or whatever um i just made that up by the way that's not true that's just a
00:34:19.140 joke but um uh you know the uh you know but this is a government document right climate change is
00:34:26.260 a public health emergency and you know it's caused by you know capitalism uh ableism and
00:34:31.440 heteronormativity like you honestly cannot make this stuff up is that on horizons that the that
00:34:36.540 government horizons.com site or is it like an actual document it's public health agency of
00:34:42.600 canada if you google it and google um uh you know you know or or go to my sub stack it's the road
00:34:49.220 to freedom with jeffrey rw wrath and find the sub staff that's the deals with that specific topic
00:34:54.580 it's it's referenced there specifically along with the direct quotes from the document you
00:35:00.120 literally can't make this stuff up okay so let's talk about alberta getting back to alberta here
00:35:05.240 and you talk about the republic of alberta let's just yeah everything goes according to plan and
00:35:11.940 the referendum goes your way and then the the next referendum goes your way now we're talking about a
00:35:17.300 new system of government is it going to be a republic is it going to be modeled after a country
00:35:22.420 that's already got a pretty good system uh who do you see popping up as leaders and you know
00:35:28.140 the other thing you say which i find interesting is you know not everything would be a bed of roses
00:35:35.020 simply because there are still a lot of snakes even if they are albertans there's still a lot
00:35:40.580 of snakes out there um oh yeah there's a lot of there's a lot of snakes there's a lot of snakes
00:35:46.580 in the garden there's no doubt about it right and and you know i mean you kind of have to go ahead
00:35:51.520 you you would be charged with making sure the public is aware that this guy is not
00:35:56.260 working for you he's going to be working for himself and whichever company uh he happens to
00:36:01.720 be tied to right how i'm going to continue my role as an advocate for uh for independence and
00:36:09.440 basically a you know a completely independent loose cannon you know commenting on the truth
00:36:14.980 as i see it and people can either agree with me or disagree with me i mean that's how you know
00:36:19.240 how i see my you know my role on a on a going forward basis you know do i think i'm qualified
00:36:24.500 to sit down at the negotiating table to negotiate alberta's departure from canada absolutely i've
00:36:29.780 i've negotiated many uh you know a hundred million dollar plus deals with the federal government over
00:36:35.580 the course of my career i know how they operate i you know i you know i have a very very low
00:36:41.280 tolerance for uh you know federal misbehavior um you know i would be quite happy you know to sit
00:36:47.360 down and try to work with them in good faith to come up with an agreement to get alberta out of
00:36:51.080 canada and if they weren't willing to do it i'd happily pull out my copy of the secession
00:36:55.720 reference and say okay boys you're not working in you know and girls you're not acting in good
00:36:59.660 faith and now i guess uh you just opened the door to a unilateral declaration of independence
00:37:04.760 because the supreme court says if you don't negotiate in good faith that's what we can do
00:37:08.280 right yeah um you know i see this as a very short process like a three you know three to five month
00:37:13.500 you know negotiating process there's no reason you know as you know like carney's trying to
00:37:18.480 oh this will be a 10 year process of uncertainty and oh my goodness alberta is just going to be 0.99
00:37:24.940 in the doldrum for 10 years while i continue to screw them 16 ways to sunday while i refuse to
00:37:30.520 let them leave i mean he won't even talk about freaking equalization until 2029 right and the
00:37:37.180 big pipeline announcement the other day with carney it wasn't a pipeline announcement it was
00:37:41.660 carney announcing that he's going to take another 12 months to dream up more conditions that he can
00:37:47.180 impose on alberta pipeline construction right are there are there albertans are there are there
00:37:53.680 albertans who believe that there is actually going to be a pipeline started at some point in the next
00:37:58.400 year and a half i don't know if there's anybody in this province that's that gullible right i
00:38:04.480 certainly hope not because i mean like at that announcement carney literally said that like
00:38:09.540 there's not going to be a shovel in the ground and uh uh you know in september of uh uh you know
00:38:14.960 of uh of 2027 right he's going to take 12 months to dream and have a thousand bureaucrats dream up
00:38:22.380 a whole bunch of new conditions for pipeline construction and then once the conditions are
00:38:28.440 all dreamed up then they have to figure out how the hell they're going to pay for them and if you
00:38:32.640 look at the so-called projects of national importance uh regulation and the act and whatever
00:38:37.740 i mean these conditions include you know determining and ameliorating gender intersectionality
00:38:44.920 whatever that means right what what what wait wait what yeah yeah i don't know what that means
00:38:52.460 i mean are they gonna have some committee of federal bureaucrats to figure out how many people
00:38:56.360 with non-standard pronouns have to be imposed on pipeline welding crews like seriously like
00:39:03.300 you know like what you know what are they going to dream up under the banner of gender
00:39:07.460 intersectionality like where the where the free tampon dispensers are meant to be on the you know 0.99
00:39:13.220 in the unisex porn parties at the work camps, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
00:39:18.160 Like, who knows?
00:39:21.520 It's all for us to do it, right? 1.00
00:39:23.500 It's all for us to dream this shit up. 0.99
00:39:25.500 So let's get back to my original point, 0.99
00:39:30.180 which was Alberta voting to become its own independent nation.
00:39:35.240 And you get through the process with Canada.
00:39:37.360 As you say, you see it as a three to five month process.
00:39:39.960 who amongst the sovereignist uh group of people that people know would be willing to stand up and
00:39:49.420 say i want to run for president or chancellor or whatever the title might be or in leadership and
00:39:55.620 how how would there's only two guys right now that i think are trustworthy to do it um you know
00:40:03.540 because i see both of them as honest brokers you know one is jason stefan right the other you know
00:40:08.280 who's currently a sitting MLA and the other is Mitch Sylvester. Right.
00:40:12.320 I mean, you know, Keith Wilson, he's kind of like me.
00:40:14.720 I don't think he's got the temperament to do the job.
00:40:16.780 I think he's trying to put himself forward as, you know,
00:40:18.780 I'm Mr. Serious and whatever, whatever. But, you know, I've known, you know,
00:40:22.260 I've known Keith for a year and a half and he's actually, believe it or not,
00:40:25.560 he's even more thin skin than I am. So, I mean,
00:40:28.740 I don't think that he'd be a very good president or he's not certainly
00:40:32.220 somebody that I wouldn't endorse for president. You know,
00:40:34.640 some of these other bozos like Jason Levine, I mean, God help us.
00:40:37.860 like i wouldn't even want those guys in the legislature for goodness sake they're just a
00:40:41.280 bunch of uh you know they're really just a bunch of wannabe politicians like you know and what's
00:40:45.660 that other one that little alberta pride dude the little teeny weeny weirdo with the baseball cap
00:40:50.080 that um is constantly taking shots on me online i mean he's he's just a you know like a wannabe
00:40:55.540 influencer merchandise seller um you know has no education to speak of is not qualified you know
00:41:02.520 to to sit in a legislature let alone the alberta uh house of representatives or senate or you know
00:41:08.300 or the executive you know i don't what i always tell people it's like that's what leadership
00:41:13.120 contests are for right you know the the right person will emerge right um you know and again
00:41:19.580 like i you know i know jason stefan i've spoken to him uh you know he's an honest broker i mean
00:41:24.860 i don't know right now that he's fully 100 committed to alberta independence but that
00:41:29.520 having been said he's 100 fully committed to democracy and the right of albertans to be able
00:41:35.000 to have a binary vote up or down on independence and that's why he came out and voted uh you know
00:41:40.200 and made it clear that he was voting for option two something else that was really interesting
00:41:44.340 you know when we talk about how this um vote could turn out i think people can could end up
00:41:49.900 being shocked by the turnout that comes out in favor of albert independence right so a couple
00:41:54.800 weeks ago and i'm told by you know a friend of mine that i trust who's a former member of parliament
00:41:59.320 that was at a town hall meeting, you know, involving Jason Steffen, right?
00:42:04.380 Or that Jason Steffen was at with Daniel Smith.
00:42:06.560 He asked everybody in that room in front of Daniel Smith,
00:42:09.300 because he wanted to know where his constituents and Red Deer were at on this issue, right?
00:42:13.960 Asked everybody in that room who was in favor of independence to stand up, right?
00:42:18.060 80% of the room stood up, right?
00:42:20.700 When was it?
00:42:21.260 And then Daniel, you can see, you know, was visiting.
00:42:24.160 80%, 80% were in favor of independence, right?
00:42:26.840 When was this, though?
00:42:28.080 two weeks ago okay two weeks ago and then Danielle Smith said well I'd like to I'd like
00:42:35.160 to see how many people here are in favor of maybe in Canada and only five percent of the room stood
00:42:40.100 up so she was visibly shocked at that which is what I'd like to know how many people here
00:42:45.500 you know are upset that we're having a vote at all nobody stood up right so and then I heard
00:42:51.000 you know and again it was from the same person who was at both meetings there was a meeting
00:42:54.300 In another meeting in Lacombe, and a gentleman stood up at that meeting and told Danielle, he said, you know, Premier Smith, I supported you for the leadership.
00:43:02.120 I supported you and I worked as a volunteer in the last election to get you elected as Premier, right?
00:43:07.860 And he said, now I see that you're taking four million Alberta tax dollars that I contribute to as a taxpayer, right, to take out ads and advertise against the best interest for my family and my family's future.
00:43:22.540 you know campaigning against alberta independence that my entire family supports um you know as
00:43:29.240 being the only way forward and the only way to a prosperous future in alberta i will never support
00:43:34.040 you ever again and the whole room stood up and gave him a standing ovation it was the most applause
00:43:38.720 that anybody got all night right wow and that's the that's the that's the mood out there in alberta
00:43:43.960 right now people are really really unhappy with danielle for bailing in on the side of you know
00:43:48.820 we call them the forever communists, right? Again, it's such strange bedfellows, right?
00:43:53.700 Danielle holding hands with Rachel Notley, Nahid the Nose Picker Nenshi, you know, Mark Carney,
00:44:00.800 right? And then you got Harper, Manning, Kenny, you know, all these retreaded politicians,
00:44:06.360 they're all grifting and grafting because they're, you know, they're all getting paid one way or
00:44:11.540 another through this, right? And I find it so funny that, you know, everybody online attacks me,
00:44:15.960 oh, you're just a gripper, you're getting rich on the campaign for independence.
00:44:19.700 This has done nothing but hurt me.
00:44:21.780 I have not made any money out of independence, period.
00:44:25.300 You know, it's like, I, you know, like, you know, it's the whole thing has just been,
00:44:28.820 you know, for me, you know, it is not, I'm not making money on this.
00:44:33.660 I'm not, you know, like selling subscriptions on my X account.
00:44:37.420 I'm not making money online, you know, none of it.
00:44:40.000 I just see this as being in the best interest, you know, of my family,
00:44:43.640 the future of my family and i'm fed up i'm sick and tired of being governed by people that have
00:44:49.700 nothing but contempt for albertans and that are just constantly crushing our province into the
00:44:55.200 dust right like you know we literally have you know according to some people like if you read
00:45:00.380 how badly the venezuelan oil field has been managed you know we have like we have far more
00:45:07.600 recoverable oil reserves in alberta than they have in venezuela and venezuela right now i think is
00:45:12.720 seen as being the you know either the first or second largest oil reserve in the world
00:45:16.340 so alberta you know like a lot of people say we're third but probably we're probably number one
00:45:21.480 in terms of oil reserves in the world right so why would alberta and why would albertans not become
00:45:28.180 the wealthiest country in the world if we were properly managed and weren't constantly being
00:45:34.980 run into the ground by incompetent this entire unnecessary incompetent level of government
00:45:40.960 that comes out of ottawa right like that's what i'm working over to i mean you know like get rid
00:45:47.620 of an entire level of corrupt politicians i mean good god like why wouldn't you vote for that
00:45:53.080 how do you see i mean there's a lot of scare tactics obviously in play right now from the
00:45:59.020 left-wing corporate media and then all of these politicians that we have mentioned uh throughout
00:46:03.100 the show here uh and some of them are suggesting that whoa you know if alberta ever succeeds in
00:46:07.700 mitigating independence, there's going to be a mass exodus of a population that leaves the
00:46:12.280 province. I don't think that's necessarily true, but I'm sure that you've, you've thought about
00:46:17.260 that. Oh, it's ridiculous. And I brought this up at various meetings, as people will bring it up, 0.96
00:46:22.700 but I'll say, okay, how many people in this room are actually in business? How many people here
00:46:26.200 are business people? Right. And, you know, so you'll get 30 or 40 or 50 or, you know,
00:46:31.280 however many people raising their hand. And I said, okay, so for all of you people who are
00:46:35.260 actually in business right how many of you right would intentionally shut down your business
00:46:42.300 because you don't want to stay in a jurisdiction that's going to regulate you and tax you less
00:46:48.420 right oh i got i need to move i need to go somewhere where i can be taxed and regulated
00:46:53.800 more right and it's the same nonsense today like the you know the but you know the communist
00:46:58.700 alberta medical association came out today and i mean this is an organization that's been screwing
00:47:03.420 its own members for decades right all the lousy contracts that they negotiated for doctors in 0.83
00:47:08.520 alberta um all of the crap that the ama did to alberta doctors during covet supporting you know 0.73
00:47:14.660 the way that the college of physicians and surgeons was you know were uh pillorying uh you 0.95
00:47:19.780 know doctors that you know were telling patients yeah there's an alternative to vaccines you don't
00:47:23.940 need to get them don't worry about it you're young you're healthy you don't need the shots whatever
00:47:27.860 all of those people were persecuted etc but there's the ama telling you know telling trying
00:47:33.100 ahead and tell people oh yeah and if uh alberta becomes independent 55 percent of alberta doctors
00:47:40.120 are gonna leave alberta i mean what a you know excuse my mind you know what a joke right i mean
00:47:45.100 again like i'm a doctor and i need to leave alberta because i want to go somewhere where i can pay
00:47:51.580 double the amount of taxes right i don't want my taxes to be cut in half i want to go to british
00:47:57.120 columbia where i can pay luxury taxes on cars luxury taxes on boats double the income tax triple
00:48:02.940 you know whatever you know because i'm just completely against freedom so i'm going to go
00:48:08.960 somewhere where i can pay twice the taxes because i'm so offended you know by people that believe in
00:48:13.900 small government and don't want us overtaxed and overregulated by a government or not like
00:48:18.540 it's ludicrous and then the same the same organization the alberta medical association
00:48:22.860 says oh and on top of the doctors are terrified that you know once alberta leaves canada this is
00:48:28.900 my favorite one that there's going to be no more federal health transfers yeah there will be no
00:48:34.980 more federal health transfers because we won't be sending any money to ottawa to transfer it back
00:48:41.040 we'll keep all the money here so there won't be you know there won't be federal health transfers
00:48:46.320 there'll be direct funding of health care in alberta by a government in alberta that's directly
00:48:52.180 responsible to the citizens of alberta you know so all this nonsense and fear campaigning that's 0.99
00:48:58.300 going on you know it's it's so idiotic as to be laughable and if people spent more than 30 seconds 1.00
00:49:03.720 thinking about how stupid these people are you know that are saying these things they would have 1.00
00:49:08.720 you know even less respect for these people than i do well i'll tell you what it it comes from 1.00
00:49:14.720 a trust factor and a familiarity factor as well right like we wonder and and i scratch my head
00:49:20.160 every single day wondering how people can't trust the cbc or any news left-wing corporate media news
00:49:27.420 network in canada but you know what it is it's the familiarity with that little logo that comes
00:49:32.660 up in the corner i've been doing this jeff this this broadcasting thing uh for 40 years and i do
00:49:39.900 have a loyal following people who trust me because they know that i'm an honest guy but you could put
00:49:45.560 up a 25 year old freshly graduated from journalism school face on the cbc and people would trust that
00:49:53.820 kid seeing him for the first time if that little cbc logo was up in the corner but the same goes
00:49:59.800 for the politicians when they see somebody like stephen harper come up or they see somebody like
00:50:05.320 jason kenny or they see somebody like danielle smith for that matter they go wow because they
00:50:11.060 got to a certain point in their political career they know what they're talking about is a as
00:50:17.520 opposed to these guys i've never seen before you know like you know the jeff rats of the world or
00:50:22.420 the keith wilson and the problem is people don't people don't follow politics the way that some of
00:50:29.240 us do right again you know like i said i have a an honors degree in political science from the u of a
00:50:34.000 and i have an honors degree in law from the london school of economics right so i follow politics the
00:50:39.280 way that some people follow sports teams and american football right right and you know as 0.90
00:50:44.540 an example like most people don't realize that steven harper is the jackass that got us into 0.80
00:50:50.340 the freaking paris accords like he was the first mr net zero in canada thinking that taxes are 0.96
00:50:56.760 going to change the fucking weather excuse my language right like right you know he was the 1.00
00:51:01.280 first moron that started taking us down this moronic path of stupidity that we're on right 1.00
00:51:07.380 with regard to uh you know climate change and the reason is they all get paid through it right 1.00
00:51:13.440 they're they're all on the graph climate change is the biggest fraud that's ever existed right
00:51:19.200 you know anybody that pays any attention to this stuff understands that we're you know kind of in
00:51:23.380 this weird interglacial period where the actual temperature of the earth is currently below you
00:51:29.200 know the 10 000 year average right so anytime we even spike up a little bit oh the sky is falling
00:51:34.780 we're all gonna die right it's nonsense right you know we don't need to get into a big discussion
00:51:41.980 of climate change but it has to do with you know planetary cycles you know surprise surprise when
00:51:46.900 the earth is closer to the sun it's hotter when you know because the earth's orbit is elliptical
00:51:51.640 so when we're on the far ends of the ellipse or the far end of the egg and we're further away from
00:51:56.000 the sun we're cooler right you know so we go through these periods where we're closer to the
00:52:00.060 sun surprise surprise the freaking temperature goes up because somebody's turned the thermostat
00:52:04.300 up it has nothing to do with co2 you know it's why the government of canada has basically tried
00:52:09.260 to expunge from environment canada records all of the records of the temperatures in the 1930s
00:52:16.180 you know the dirty 30s the dust bowl right long before we had co2 levels that we currently have
00:52:22.720 the temperatures were way higher than they are now right yeah but oh we can't talk about that
00:52:27.800 no no no you're a climate change denier oh right you know and then you know on top of it they
00:52:33.420 refuse to talk about the fact that we're at a period of cooling right now because all of this
00:52:38.120 lovely co2 that we're creating because there is an increase in planetary co2 it's big guess what
00:52:42.960 does it's fertilizer it makes the plants grow more and the more that the plants grow and the
00:52:47.760 more the plants absorb you know like grow over to cover up the goby desert and these other arid
00:52:52.720 regions the plants absorb more heat and they don't reflect it straight back into the atmosphere
00:52:57.760 it calls the so-called greenhouse effect that people are so worried about i mean climate change
00:53:02.240 is a complete yeah right yep but nobody wants you but they're all getting paid off of it okay so let
00:53:09.880 me ask you this and and this is something that's come up and people go oh no no no no independent
00:53:15.300 alberta what about because you know that donald trump has been talking about this for a couple
00:53:21.260 of years canada's going to be the 51st state he said it again today at a rally in arizona i've got
00:53:26.480 i've got the video i'm going to put it up here for you guys their car companies are all moving
00:53:30.500 into america they're all coming in otherwise they have to pay massive tariffs and they'll end up
00:53:37.100 being the 51st state because it's the only way it works you know we don't need them but they need us
00:53:43.880 and why should we be losing 80 90 100 billion dollars a year to support a country that isn't
00:53:52.600 one of us so they'll be doing something just like greenland yeah you see that that guy cracks me up
00:53:59.880 he truly cracks me up i get a kink out of that but he doesn't want canada right he what he wants
00:54:06.480 is a reliably republican state a new state or states uh let's just say alberta and saskatchewan
00:54:14.780 for example i know i know better because i've met with people you know sort of at the highest
00:54:19.920 levels in the u.s administration all of this read the art of the deal okay if you read the
00:54:25.760 art of the deal and if you read you know how trump negotiates this is all part of a negotiation
00:54:30.380 right so you know cardi thinks he's playing hardball right now because he's talking to
00:54:35.360 europe and he's gonna you know strengthen our strategic alliance with communist china and
00:54:39.620 whatever whatever and trump's basically going screw you like we'll bleed you economically and 0.97
00:54:44.240 we'll crush you until you come begging for statehood but he knows that canada will never 0.98
00:54:48.500 get admitted into the united states like you know it takes a joint resolution of both houses of 0.90
00:54:54.200 congress and in fact our first meeting at the state department when we went down there on you
00:54:58.300 know on our due diligence exercise right we told them i said like you need to understand right from
00:55:02.400 the outset that albertans and alberta are not interested in statehood we're here to talk about
00:55:07.120 alberta becoming a free and independent country and the people we were meeting with at the highest
00:55:11.160 levels of the state department oh good that's good we needed to talk about that because it'll
00:55:15.000 never happen right did you meet with rubio and i'm sorry to interrupt you did you meet with rubio
00:55:21.160 investment we met with people that were going directly to the white house from our meetings
00:55:26.520 right so we were meeting at the very top level of the u.s state department and they told us flat
00:55:31.060 out that alberta would never become a state because in order for alberta to become a state
00:55:35.460 we'd be a republican state and the democrats would want you know puerto rico guam and probably a
00:55:41.600 constitutional amendment to get washington dc statehood which would never happen right so
00:55:47.900 statehood has never been on the table trump you know continues to you know to um uh troll you
00:55:54.980 know carney and troll canada because it's part of his negotiating strategy and negotiating style
00:56:00.920 he's not serious about it but you know one of the things he's you know he's deadly serious about is 0.99
00:56:06.180 that if we keep playing you know stupid games it's the old fafo thing right you know you know 0.99
00:56:12.380 canada's going to find out like there was no reason for this right like you know um trump was 0.99
00:56:18.180 actually prepared and this is again coming from my you know source it's fairly high highly placed
00:56:21.960 in the american administration trump was prepared to offer canada a complete reciprocal free trade
00:56:27.980 deal deal both zero tariffs on both sides of the border we had to make concessions on softwood
00:56:34.220 lumber dairy and some of the other trade irritants right and work with the u.s you know on those
00:56:39.500 issues and it would have been reciprocal free trade this is when trudeau was going down right
00:56:43.460 and instead of trudeau just grabbing trump by the hand and saying thank you trudeau decided to give
00:56:49.380 trump a two-hour lecture on how to be a better feminist right i'm sorry what the time how to be
00:56:55.960 a better feminist right no i i heard you i'm just i'm just trying to absorb that information and 0.52
00:57:02.660 basically because because christia freeland's book just came out the other day and she even
00:57:08.720 talked about trudeau lecturing members of his own cabinet about using the wrong verbiage when it
00:57:14.180 comes to people who might be you know mentally deficient and by the time trump was done with
00:57:21.280 trump trump's like this guy's not even serious right like for now on i'm just gonna troll him 0.66
00:57:25.540 and I'm going to call him the governor of the 51st state, right?
00:57:28.320 I mean, all Trudeau had to do, right, when he, you know,
00:57:31.200 and again, why did Trudeau go to Mar-a-Lago?
00:57:33.040 He didn't need to go to Mar-a-Lago.
00:57:34.860 But, of course, he's just such a, you know, a little egotist.
00:57:38.560 He can't stand not being at the big kid's table.
00:57:41.260 So he's going to get on his private jet and fly down there, you know, 1.00
00:57:44.400 like when, you know, he had no business being there because he's an idiot, right? 1.00
00:57:48.380 Instead of simply saying, President Trump, you know, 1.00
00:57:50.840 we've been hiding under the American military umbrella forever.
00:57:55.000 that's got to stop we understand that you know the fact that we're spending less than one percent of
00:57:59.860 our gdp is a complete violation of our nato agreement we've been doing it for over you know
00:58:04.920 for a decade and a half that has to stop right we understand your concerns about the trade imbalance
00:58:10.700 you're right we're wrong right but you know our officials and your officials agree on the number
00:58:16.260 it's not a it's not 200 billion it's 67 billion i think at the time and we're going to fix that
00:58:21.420 we're going to solve all the problems at once we're going to immediately announce it mou with
00:58:25.460 you we're going to buy 67 billion dollars worth of um you know helicopters drones armored personnel
00:58:31.760 carriers equipment to police the border you know we'll happily buy hellfire missiles and pass the
00:58:37.360 notwithstanding clause so we can use them on meth labs right whatever it is you know give trump
00:58:41.980 whatever the hell he wanted and just say and we're canadians we're really good at saying we're we're 0.80
00:58:47.060 sorry we're sorry we've been such shitty neighbors we've been bad friends we've been lousy neighbors
00:58:52.980 we're sorry what would have trump had to say to that other than thank you and we wouldn't be going
00:58:58.940 through any of this nonsense that we're going through now with our economy and shout you know
00:59:03.580 shatters you know in tatters um you know with our country being completely vulnerable uh you know 1.00
00:59:09.960 now to communist china to the european union you know all the rest of it because those two idiots 0.99
00:59:15.860 Carney and Trudeau right have thought it's been a good idea to spend the last two years or three 0.99
00:59:20.860 years insulting the crap out of the leader of our largest customer right yeah anybody who's in
00:59:27.200 business you know it's like oh okay here's my great business strategy right my biggest customer
00:59:32.100 says hey can we sit down and roll up our sleeves and and you know sharpen our pencils we do billions
00:59:37.760 and billions of dollars worth of business together you know I think we can do better in terms of you
00:59:42.180 know the equity of this relationship you know can we please sit down and you know and talk about this
00:59:46.700 and work out some differences right instead of saying sure absolutely our biggest customers we'd
00:59:52.240 be screwed without them right no no no instead of doing that we started insulting him we fly around
00:59:57.520 the world we announced the new world order in communist china we say that you know we're now 0.96
01:00:01.660 in a strategic alliance with communist china and have entered into a top secret security agreement
01:00:08.020 with communist china that nobody can know about because it's secret right all of these things
01:00:13.580 have happened in the last year you don't think those have been massive irritants to the united 0.83
01:00:18.340 states of america and then look what happens to massive irritants look what happens to canada we
01:00:27.080 lose 120 000 jobs in just two months this past august and september because of the tariffs that
01:00:33.320 are now coming home to roost finally uh jeff there's a guy there's a guy go ahead sorry just
01:00:41.480 shadow just let me finish this one point because i'll just this is my last round and then on top
01:00:45.380 of it now he wants to join the freaking european union right and of course you know what is trump
01:00:51.140 and trump's already said it but if you don't think trump's if you think trump's kidding about
01:00:54.720 this you're wrong trump's already said okay you want to join the european union first of all we
01:00:58.840 see that as a security threat the united states of america and second of all if you do that we
01:01:04.500 don't have to have a trade deal with you we'll just go talk to your masters in brussels and
01:01:08.980 whatever tariffs we've decided that we're going to oppose on europe we're going to oppose on canada 0.83
01:01:13.020 so screw you screw whatever you know preferred relationship you've ever had we're tearing up
01:01:18.060 all of the deals and from now on we'll negotiate all of our trade deals for canada through brussels 0.98
01:01:22.720 right you know it's interesting that that the media does not want to talk about the fact that
01:01:28.400 the USMCA KUSMA, as it's referred to in Canada, can be completely terminated within six months.
01:01:34.520 You know, there's people say, well, it's got 15 years of sunset clause. All Trump has to do is
01:01:38.940 say, you know what, we're giving you a written note of six months from now, the USMCA is toast.
01:01:43.240 And that means that the 80 percent of trade that goes through tariff free from Canada to the United
01:01:48.320 States right now would be subject to these 50 percent or possibly higher tariffs when Trump
01:01:55.360 really wants to turn the screws so let me run this past you here there's a guy a geopoliticist
01:02:00.400 uh also an author his name is peter zaihan and in 2019 he wrote a book called the accidental
01:02:07.100 superpower which he dedicated a chapter to alberta in and he suggests okay that alberta joining the
01:02:15.920 united states as the 51st state they would instantly become the most prosperous state
01:02:23.380 in the union just based upon joining because of all of the natural resources daniel smith
01:02:30.620 hang on a second daniel smith has been quoted as saying that you know if you want to set up a brand
01:02:38.060 new country an independent alberta well you want to build all of the everything all of the
01:02:43.280 infrastructure from scratch it's going to cost 350 maybe 400 billion dollars so now i i don't
01:02:52.480 believe those numbers and i believe she's trying to use a fear tactic there and a lot of this stuff
01:02:56.960 is already in place anyhow so what's your take on all that well well first of all um uh we have no
01:03:06.240 interest in joining the united states of america like our our goal from day one is to become a free
01:03:10.560 and independent country and we say the day that alberta declares itself independent from canada
01:03:15.160 we become the wealthiest country in the world with the highest gdp per capita of any country
01:03:19.760 in the world right with no military with no infrastructure with with you don't go ahead
01:03:26.460 no i mean we there's a document called the value of freedom that we that was published last year
01:03:32.740 by the alberta cross-party project where we go through all of that right we you know we posited
01:03:37.660 an initial setup cost for an alberta military and keep in mind we don't need a coast guard we don't
01:03:42.160 need a navy you know we basically need an air force that's going to have a fleet of you know
01:03:46.220 a firefighter water bombers to fight forest fires uh you know some interceptors you know whatever
01:03:51.260 and then a land force that would be fully integrated uh you know with the u.s military
01:03:56.360 right because they're our largest ally right so you know it'd be a no-brainer you know so
01:04:00.700 five billion a year uh you know five billion to get started and five billion a year um uh you know
01:04:06.320 military costs which is a drop in the bucket of the additional new wealth that's going to be
01:04:11.220 created through alberta independence and just getting rid of all of the money that we're sending
01:04:15.380 to ottawa sending to quebec sending to the maritimes elsewhere right then all the other
01:04:19.380 things right we don't need to replace parks canada we already have an alberta park service right
01:04:24.520 so we just absorb all the you know federal people when we take over the you know take
01:04:28.560 take our take the national parks back as alberta national parks right um you know we already have
01:04:34.220 an alberta revenue service right that you know collects taxes so we don't need the cra we have
01:04:38.580 you know we have our own tax collectors here right we can repurpose all of the useless bureaucrats
01:04:43.600 It's like we have 16 or 17 managers for every doctor within Alberta Health in Alberta, right?
01:04:49.740 So we've got all these extraneous bureaucrats and all these various Alberta departments that can fill these other federal roles.
01:04:55.860 We just have to move them around, right?
01:04:57.700 Custom and border service, you know, all of those things.
01:05:00.080 We came up with, you know, basically a startup cost of less than, you know, of less than $10 billion to transition, not $400 billion, right?
01:05:10.020 you know and and again those costs are in line with studies that were done by the london school
01:05:14.600 of economics with regard to scotland uh with regard to quebec you know these numbers that
01:05:20.200 danielle's coming up with are completely ludicrous but again our response is okay let's take this
01:05:25.200 worst case scenario that danielle's let's get our cost 400 billion dollars okay well we're sitting
01:05:31.380 on 15 to 25 trillion dollars worth of natural resources right i can do that math and make that
01:05:37.820 business deal work all day long who cares it's a bargain at that price right what's the monetary
01:05:44.780 system is a lie it's designed to frighten people i agree what don't forget that a big part of that
01:05:50.760 number is there sorry just let me finish this thought a big part of that number is they're
01:05:55.560 presuming that albertans are going to absorb a large portion of canada's national debt that we
01:06:01.780 have no legal obligation to absorb exactly exactly what's the monetary system jeff what like is it a
01:06:09.220 new alberta style dollar is it using the american dollar for a while until you get something up and
01:06:15.660 running is there a plan for that yeah i think we did transition to the u.s dollar because let's
01:06:21.120 face it you know canada's all often over the years been referred to as a petro currency
01:06:24.840 the minute alberta leaves canada the canadian dollar is going to trade on par with the
01:06:28.900 I mean, let's be real with that, right? So, you know, I think initially, you know, we want to, you know, we want to trade in US, we want to, you know, we want to function in US dollars. And then we'd have an Alberta currency, an Alberta dollar that would be based on, you know, a basket of commodities, including gold, silver, oil, you know, etc, that would be backed by hard, you know, would be backed by hard assets, and would not be a fiat currency.
01:06:55.540 It would be back, you know, backed by a basket of hard commodities that Alberta would physically own, right, to, you know, to limit dollar printing, to limit inflation, you know, et cetera.
01:07:06.920 You know, we follow, you know, we, you know, we would want, you know, the Alberta dollar to basically follow the model that they're using with regard to the Swiss franc, right?
01:07:14.820 It's all backed by, you know, basically, you know, backed by gold and hard assets, right?
01:07:19.340 So, you know, that's, you know, that's kind of the model that we'd be looking at going forward.
01:07:22.940 what is what does alberta need if it's an independent nation you guys have got all the
01:07:28.240 natural resources the oil and gas not sure about minerals water may be an issue what does alberta
01:07:34.600 need when it comes to trade with other countries maybe even with canada going forward we don't need
01:07:40.700 a we don't need we don't need a damn thing frankly like other than you know i mean obviously you know
01:07:45.580 we're going to be buying goods from other places we'd be buying you know you know buying cars from
01:07:50.320 other places in the world would be bringing goods in from the united states i mean we'd be
01:07:54.260 you know continuing to buy fertilizer from our friends in saskatchewan i mean you know the
01:07:58.760 alberta becomes independent we don't become this silo that nothing comes in or out of right
01:08:04.260 british columbia is still going to have to move its goods through uh you know through alberta to
01:08:09.360 you know to ontario and the rest of the country right um you know goods are going to have to flow
01:08:14.860 you know best through alberta to british columbia this idea that alberta is going to be landlocked
01:08:20.140 I mean, that cuts both ways, right?
01:08:21.700 I mean, if BC wants to shut down Alberta and wants to ignore the, you know, Canada wants
01:08:25.960 to ignore the UN law of the Sea Treaty that guarantees landlocked states like Switzerland
01:08:31.140 and, you know, other places, you know, Czechoslovakia, you name it, you know, access to seaports,
01:08:38.060 right, if they want to violate an international treaty that they're a party to, right, it
01:08:42.540 cuts both ways.
01:08:43.440 I mean, we can shut down every truck or train leaving British Columbia and say, first of
01:08:47.420 all they have to be subject to a two you know two week rat inspection because we don't want any 1.00
01:08:51.520 bc rats in alberta and uh you know we're gonna have our customers on board and if you think you 1.00
01:08:58.400 can tariff alberto oil or you know we'll you know we'll slap a throughput tariff on all goods flowing
01:09:03.720 from bc and ontario we don't care right and you know and we'd see how long that would last i mean
01:09:08.640 people aren't going to cut off their noses to spite their face people are going to behave as
01:09:12.260 responsible adults right but you know keep in mind the vote on monday is not for full-blown
01:09:17.960 independence the vote is simply to initiate a process and to continue to maintain alberta's
01:09:23.760 leverage you know vis-a-vis audible you know in the last year because of the alberta independence
01:09:28.640 movement not because of daniel smith you know groveling to mark carney oh mark i love you so
01:09:34.900 we love you and i'm a team canada and albert loves canada so please give his stuff you know
01:09:41.960 that's not why you know carney's talking to alberta he's in alberta this week because he's
01:09:48.220 petrified that albertans are going to cut off the gravy train and that there's going to be no more
01:09:53.180 money for you know for all of these schemes that carney has um you know to enrich himself and
01:09:58.840 brookfield and all of their billionaire buddies right that's why they're here so why do we want 0.98
01:10:03.740 to give up that leverage right you know danielle put out some stupid post today about i'm voting 0.96
01:10:08.880 for option one because it'll strengthen alberta's place within canada well how does giving up all 0.94
01:10:14.820 of our leverage strengthen our place anywhere danielle and that's what we're saying like 0.83
01:10:19.660 danielle can't be trusted to negotiate for us she's not a negotiator right she has no idea what
01:10:25.080 leverage means she has no idea how to use it right and is literally you know thinks that somehow that 0.67
01:10:32.000 you know being you know being pretty and groveling and begging and you know all the rest of it is
01:10:37.440 you know is getting you know is getting us where we want to go and it's not like hey can you
01:10:41.840 the only reason that we're in can you can you can you share can you share that story you shared
01:10:48.600 with me this afternoon about o'leary and danielle at mar-a-lago is that cool oh god this is the best
01:10:55.260 this photo of uh of danielle smith and kevin o'leary and donald trump right so what i've heard
01:11:02.860 from people that i know that are in the trump orbit is that o'leary takes danielle down to 0.99
01:11:08.360 mar-a-lago right so there's you know that you have those stupid sunshades like you'll see them 0.94
01:11:12.440 up in parking lots in the summer like you know they have like windshield repair places and 0.98
01:11:16.220 whatever they have those little sunshade umbrella things little pavilions well she and o'leary
01:11:21.080 stood under that a pavilion i'm told for three hours you know not waiting for a meeting with
01:11:26.840 donald trump it's simply for a photo and people are walking by and going like who are those two
01:11:30.860 people standing over there under that sunshade oh that's the premier of alberta and some guy by the
01:11:35.140 name of kevin o'leary like they're just here they want to get a picture of trump and they go oh okay
01:11:39.100 well maybe yeah we better find them and we'll get them out of here because this is just silly that 0.92
01:11:42.560 they're standing around stupid so we'll do that and then out comes trump and they get their picture 0.98
01:11:46.340 and then danielle tries to spin that into oh i have these great meetings with donald trump she 0.99
01:11:51.260 didn't have a meeting with donald trump right it was just a photo op right tried to spin into like
01:11:57.180 oh look at all the influence she has she doesn't have any influence my understanding is that the
01:12:01.600 alberta government uh lobbying firm or representatives in washington are people that
01:12:06.680 were connected to the obama administration they're despised by people in the trump
01:12:11.080 administration nobody wants to talk to them or deal with them i have better access to the trump
01:12:15.760 administration than danielle smith does i mean as frightening as that sounds right and of course
01:12:21.380 we go down there we meet with the state department you know we literally as a result of our meetings
01:12:26.000 you got scott bestin saying oh i understand that people in alberta with like a pipeline that
01:12:30.140 completely bypasses british columbia to go to the west coast of the united states we'd be all over
01:12:35.000 that right well why isn't danielle like sending a delegation immediately down to the united states 0.99
01:12:40.600 to follow up on our meetings and say hey let's talk about this no no instead danielle makes you
01:12:45.580 know and then we do that it takes away david eby's power he then oh not jeff roth he's treasonous
01:12:51.700 and he's a traitor people need to blah blah blah jeff roth right and you know and then danielle
01:12:57.860 her response is to say and we're going to send a strongly worded letter to the united states
01:13:02.580 telling them that they can't meet with these people anymore yeah as opposed to say you know
01:13:09.120 these are true albertans that are going down there trying to help the province of alberta
01:13:13.260 I would like to meet with them personally to talk to them about what it is that they were discussing, who they were meeting with, and how I can get in touch with them and how we can send a delegation, myself, down there to meet directly with these same people that have access to the White House so that we can address all of Alberta's problems and do what my friend Paul St. Pierre-Pierre Lamondon is now doing, which is to have our own direct trading relationship with the United States and telling Mark Carney,
01:13:42.320 look all of your insults all of your bullshit all of your el bozo nonsense is doing nothing but 1.00
01:13:48.280 destroy our relationship with the united states you're incompetent to negotiate with the united 1.00
01:13:52.880 states henceforth the government of alberta will negotiate directly our own trade arrangement with
01:13:58.120 the united states and we expect you to endorse it period because you can't be trusted to do the job
01:14:04.260 that you were elected to do which is to make sure that all every region of the country continues to
01:14:09.520 thrive in the context of our most important trading relationship right you know why isn't
01:14:15.540 daniel doing that if she was a real if she was a real leader that's what she would be doing
01:14:19.820 the reason i'm sitting here with a smile on my face is because you are bar none the most
01:14:26.900 entertaining guest i have ever had in the six-year history of this show every time you come on i look
01:14:33.320 forward to getting a laugh a little bit of well actually a lot of information and just a good time
01:14:39.260 with jeff rath here um and and let's wrap it up with this jeff you've been a lawyer for a very
01:14:45.820 long time you've had your own firm in southern alberta for a very long time you know what it's
01:14:50.540 like sitting back waiting for juries to come to come out uh and if they're deliberating for a
01:14:56.060 while is is that a good thing or is that a bad thing and the reason i ask is because i suppose
01:15:00.400 we could put the same kind of logic down on you know the more votes we get the worse it's going
01:15:06.560 to be for independence or the better it's going to be i don't know how do you see this
01:15:10.060 i don't know i i actually think the other side could be shocked i mean i mean i've won cases
01:15:17.260 in the supreme court of canada so there's nothing worse than sitting around waiting
01:15:20.520 to see what the verdict is from the supremes to find out whether you know what the you know what
01:15:25.240 the the smartest jurists in the country think of all of your arguments right so i i've been there
01:15:29.540 and i've won nine nothing decisions you know at the supreme court of canada right but um this one
01:15:35.520 is interesting right because i was out you know you know my buddy david craigman right so he was
01:15:39.940 coming through to visit some in-laws a week or so ago and i met i went up and met david for um
01:15:45.320 breakfast up in airdrie this is like literally just uh last weekend right and this waitress
01:15:50.320 had overheard our conversation she's what are you talking about it's all we're just talking
01:15:53.400 about this and that and i'll burn independence my whole family is fully on board there's over
01:15:59.440 30 of us and we're all gonna go out and vote for option two and you know mr rath is there anything
01:16:04.600 i can do to help and i said yeah it's not just your family like you've got to go through your
01:16:08.380 phone you've got to go through all of your contacts if you care about independence phone
01:16:12.180 every friend you have and get as many people as you can to come out and vote because i said it's
01:16:16.920 going to be important that we get every single person that feels the same way we do to come out
01:16:21.500 and vote for independence right and then i left that meeting here you know that little you know
01:16:25.560 that lovely little breakfast with david and then i stopped off at a sporting goods store on the way
01:16:30.060 home to buy a fishing lure or something and I'm talking to a clerk in the store and we're chatting
01:16:35.480 yeah he says it's going to be really interesting he said because everybody I know is on board with
01:16:41.300 independence he said my entire family he says like there's 40 or 50 of us we're all voting
01:16:45.280 independence everybody in the store everybody that works here supports independence I don't
01:16:49.920 know anybody who doesn't support independence he says I hope it's like the equalization
01:16:54.280 referendum and like we get 61 about burdens coming out to vote for independence well they
01:16:59.980 all think it's going the other way he said like i'm gonna laugh so hard that's what happens because
01:17:06.020 he said all these corrupt politicians that have been screwing us for years aren't gonna know what
01:17:10.780 to do right so i mean there's a lot of that you know that you get that sense when you're going
01:17:16.240 out and like you know and i go out and i'll go you know and me being me and you know whatever
01:17:19.800 I'll go into my bank or whatever. And I'll, you know, and I'll, you know,
01:17:23.080 and I literally get in lines in my bank and some people come running in and go,
01:17:26.400 Oh my goodness, are you Jeff Rath? And it's like,
01:17:28.160 can I get a selfie with you and all this kind of stuff. And, you know,
01:17:30.600 so I, you know, it's kind of weird that I'm this sort of weird pocket
01:17:33.300 celebrity. I just have never quite not used to it,
01:17:35.760 but I'll go into my bank now and I'll, and I'll joke around like in line.
01:17:39.180 It's like, Oh, everybody's looking forward to voting for independence.
01:17:41.520 And of course the poor tellers can't say anything because they don't want to
01:17:44.020 get fired, but you can see them all smiling and nodding.
01:17:46.700 everybody's happy and you're sort of gauging your reactions of the people you know just these random
01:17:51.380 crowds of people and sure enough there's always you know it's like the covid karens right there's 0.99
01:17:55.280 always somebody yeah you know like you know senior citizen pensioner with a sour face that's really
01:18:00.960 angry or whatever but by and large everywhere you go people seem excited they seem engaged they seem
01:18:06.840 you know um uh i don't believe the polls i really don't you know i got you know this suggestion like
01:18:12.740 There was a poll that came out today that said 15%, you know,
01:18:17.080 we're only 15% we're going to vote for independence.
01:18:19.780 I think it's nonsense, right?
01:18:21.440 You look at all the Alberta flags flying everywhere,
01:18:24.220 all the signs all over, you know, Alberta, you know, all over Alberta.
01:18:28.240 You know, there's an outfit called Yagwave.
01:18:30.920 You can look it up when we're done.
01:18:32.020 It's at Yagwave on X.
01:18:34.720 And this is a news aggregator, right, out of Edmonton, Alberta, right?
01:18:39.620 And I think they looked at their stats the other day,
01:18:42.360 like something like 65 percent of their followers are from edmonton you know 15 percent are from
01:18:49.900 calgary another percentage from rural alberta and then the rest of it somewhere else in the world
01:18:54.260 right but largely alberta-based followers predominantly urban edmonton and calgary and
01:19:00.140 they put up a poll um a week or so ago and the poll was do you agree that alberta should cease
01:19:07.740 to be a province of canada to become an independent state so the original referendum question binary
01:19:13.140 question straight on independence right there are now over 10 000 people so it's a 10 000 person
01:19:19.620 sample right 70 in favor of full-on independence right so who knows like i don't believe these
01:19:28.160 you know ipsos polls and ecos polls where they have these thousand person curated sample size
01:19:34.580 groups that they claim are representative of the province we know those polls aren't representative
01:19:39.100 none of our you know most of our people don't want their names on a list because of what carny
01:19:43.800 did to people during the convoys seizing bank accounts and you know and all the rest of it
01:19:48.120 um you know albertans you know don't really participate in those types of things so i think
01:19:53.180 those polls would largely skew you know to the university educated lefties that you know that
01:19:59.000 you know would not be the type of people that would vote for independence right so
01:20:02.980 So, you know, I don't know where we're at,
01:20:05.460 but I think we're a lot closer to 50% than they would like.
01:20:10.280 Like, why else would Carney be out here for a week?
01:20:12.480 Do you think he'd be wasting his time in Alberta
01:20:15.100 instead of flying to Europe and rubbing himself with luxury butter
01:20:18.600 if he thought this was in hand and we were going to win?
01:20:22.220 Are people actually, Jeff, are people getting...
01:20:27.820 are people getting chastised for supporting alberta independence are they getting fired
01:20:35.240 like you just pointed out that you don't want poor tellers can't say anything in the banks
01:20:39.020 because they don't want to get fired we know of the story i think it was through yeg wave on x
01:20:44.580 about the guy who was allegedly kicked out of an oilers game because he was waving
01:20:49.160 an alberta flag now i i never saw a video where the dude was waving a flag but you know people
01:20:55.420 say that this is true i still have a rough time believing it but people are facing that kind of
01:21:00.020 persecution just for being alberta independent supporters oh for sure and i mean don't for
01:21:05.940 you know don't forget that um uh you know don't forget that this is a province where like i said
01:21:12.140 murray edwards was firing employees and threatening you know and did fire employees who refused to get
01:21:17.580 vaccinated right so you know we've got these people that are uh you know uh you know these
01:21:22.860 oligarchs right now let's call them what they are they're oligarchs right that um uh you know use
01:21:29.200 their economic muscle and use their economic power to oppress people in this province and 0.99
01:21:35.600 you know people in alberta are very well aware of that right you know like the bank account
01:21:41.240 seizures that carney led during the convoy right completely illegal the supreme court you know i'm
01:21:46.640 sorry you know uh you know the you know the federal court of appeal you know said it was
01:21:50.640 completely illegal completely unconstitutional all of the nonsense that these people do right
01:21:55.780 and you know people like people would come up to us during the petition firemen policemen you know
01:22:01.100 you name it saying hey guys like we just wanted to tell you like you know uh you know we're just
01:22:06.140 here to say that we really support you we can't sign the petitions we'll get fired but we really
01:22:09.760 support you right you know and i mean again you know like even during the petition process right
01:22:15.940 Like, I mean, every cop and fireman and nurse and anybody that gets a salary, right, can look at their pay stub, put a red circle around how much money they pay in federal income tax and figure out how much better off their family is going to be without having to pay federal income tax anymore, right?
01:22:33.720 So, you know, there's all of these, you know, like all of these, you know, tradesmen are on board, police are on board, firemen are on board.
01:22:39.740 You know, all of these people that, you know, so-called belong to unions, you know, they're supporting us. Right. You know, not so, you know, the teachers, not so much social workers, not so much, you know, whatever. But again, you know, hardcore blue collar trades, firemen, policemen, paramedics, you know, all of the working trades, anybody that's in construction, anybody that's in the oil field, you know, all of those people are going to be voting for independence.
01:23:04.940 So it's going to be really, and keep in mind, none of those people are in one of these little thousand person curated Ipsos poll groups, right?
01:23:14.880 So it's going to be really interesting to see what the numbers are, and I'm really hoping that we have a really, really pleasant surprise on Monday.
01:23:22.980 But again, I think we get more than 600,000 votes in favor of independence, and the politics of Alberta have changed forever, because we're not going away.
01:23:31.120 like we are you guys moving forward we're going to take you know we're going to finish getting rid
01:23:36.060 of daniel smith we're going to take over the ucp we're going to have a pro-independence premier
01:23:40.300 um you know running the province right and uh you know and we'll see what happens next time
01:23:46.020 there's a referendum when you know you know daniel's now set the precedent that we can take
01:23:50.960 millions of dollars from alberta you know out of the alberta treasury to advertise one way or
01:23:56.900 another in and around an independence referendum so you know next next time we have a referendum
01:24:01.680 in alberta you know we're hoping that we have a government that's on board that's spending
01:24:05.520 our money for the benefit of albertans by getting alberta out of canada i was uh reading the other
01:24:10.860 day where i see that you're not going to be elections alberta says you guys will not be
01:24:15.160 allowed scrutineers at any of the polling stations only the ndp and the ucp will be allowed this
01:24:21.380 are you concerned there might be a little bit of backroom shenanigans
01:24:24.860 well i mean i always say that alberta elections alberta would have no standards at all if it
01:24:32.180 didn't have double standards right i mean it's i think it's pretty ridiculous that they're
01:24:35.780 excluding the third party um you know these you know the third party advertisers from having
01:24:40.400 representatives of scrutineers the only thing that's you know the only thing that's good about
01:24:44.500 it is again 80 of the membership of the ucp is pro-independence right i've seen that um you know
01:24:51.560 people that have been really openly pro-independence on acts like guys like
01:24:55.580 McClelland and, you know, some of these other guys have been posting about it.
01:24:59.060 They've basically been cut out of every shift that they're supposed to go on,
01:25:02.340 even though they're UCP members and they've been accredited as scrutineers,
01:25:05.520 right? If anybody's too blatantly independent or openly independent,
01:25:09.960 you know, they're basically been kicked out as scrutineers,
01:25:12.780 even though they belong to the UCP, right?
01:25:14.640 So there's been a lot of those kinds of shenanigans going on, but there's a lot
01:25:18.460 of really you know there's a lot of quiet support from independents of the ucp and a lot of them
01:25:23.800 are there as scrutineers i get messages from them every day i've gotten emails from them every day
01:25:28.280 telling me what's going on um you know we have we do have a lot of our people on the inside even
01:25:33.940 though they're stacking the deck against us it's pretty hard to defeat a movement like ours i mean 0.99
01:25:38.360 we even have people in the premier's office it's like the day that she made her bullshit announcement 0.92
01:25:42.480 to have a question about a question i knew what she was going to do and i knew what her question 0.82
01:25:46.700 was going to be that afternoon you know like you know and i was able to actually go on national
01:25:52.360 television and scoop danielle in advance of her speech because somebody in her office who was 0.99
01:25:58.280 completely disgusted with her for selling out alberta had leaked the question to us in advance
01:26:04.660 right so that's funny you know it's it's kind of an interesting right it's an interesting dynamic
01:26:10.820 say the least okay so the fracturing of the conservatives and i'm not saying it's completely
01:26:16.260 fractured. But as you say, 80 percent of the UCP membership and possibly even supporters across
01:26:22.440 the province are pro-independence. That leaves 20 percent that aren't. Could it be that they get so
01:26:28.300 upset in the next provincial election? Let's just say this referendum fails for independence. Next
01:26:34.500 provincial election is coming up next year. Is it possible the NDP somehow manages to regain power
01:26:40.080 in alberta well anything's possible right but this is one of the great things that i've taken
01:26:47.680 away from my victory of my friend paul uh in quebec right his victory is he proved right that
01:26:55.500 a um largely rural based independence party with less than 30 popular support from former
01:27:03.280 government now think about that right and then think about some of the scenarios that might play
01:27:08.440 out right so let's say we succeed in removing danielle smith as as leader of the ucp and we
01:27:15.540 have a leadership convention within the ucp and we elect a pro-independence leader of the ucp
01:27:20.720 right and then all of the kennyites right he basically been running danielle smith like a
01:27:26.020 puppet since she became leader right um decide to split and firm their own party like they've
01:27:31.260 been threatening to do to danielle from the day that she was elected leader right so now we have
01:27:35.960 the NDP right we have the you know like all the provincial generals aren't really a force at all
01:27:40.140 but we have Guthrie's group right we're going to have you know whatever group Kenny's going to form
01:27:46.200 when they split off from the UCP because they're the rump right they're this weird federalist rump
01:27:51.760 of a party that's now largely if not entire you know like largely pro-independence right
01:27:57.320 and in any other democracy that's why I say Smith and Kenny are so anti-democratic
01:28:01.600 Right. 80% of the UCP favors independence, but this 20% rump or boil on a rump, let's call them what they are, puss-filled boil on the rump of the UCP, are, you know, are literally the ones that are in charge and they're saying, well, the rest of you, you're the ones that are splitting and you're going to get the NDP elected, blah, blah, blah.
01:28:21.180 Wait a minute. This is a democracy. So if you're in the minority and you're 20% and we're 80%, you need to get along with us. We don't need to get along with you. Right.
01:28:30.260 so either you know get along or you know go form your own globalist socialist party which is what
01:28:37.020 they all are they're all a bunch of global socialists right i now call them you know it's
01:28:40.700 like you have national socialists well these guys are global socialists i call them glaxies instead
01:28:45.120 of nazis they're the same freaking thing right so you know they can go form their own glazi party
01:28:50.600 and uh you know and then we'll see what happens because then we have the same situation they've
01:28:54.760 out in quebec right we're gonna have a largely rural you know um uh um pro-independence party
01:29:00.980 we're gonna have um you know this vlatsy party right which would sort of be the equivalent of
01:29:06.440 the quebec conservatives then but probably more left-wing believe it or not because kenny's just
01:29:11.360 a freaking socialist um you know we're gonna have guthrie's group lukasic announced today that he
01:29:16.400 wants to start a political party right the remain in canada dude right the remain communist dude 0.97
01:29:21.800 wants to start his own political party and then we're going to have the ndp so the question is
01:29:26.340 going to be you know how many votes are these other groups in the middle you know the lukastic's
01:29:32.140 group the group the glazes the you know whatever you're going to pull away from the ndp and does
01:29:37.940 that leave room for the you know for an alberta independence party to form a government under the
01:29:43.260 banner of the ucp who knows i mean the future you know for as far as i'm concerned is wide open
01:29:48.320 it's too early to speculate about any of these things and i think you know i think an ndp victory
01:29:53.860 in 2027 is you know as far from you know as far from certain uh you know i mean let's face it
01:29:59.560 who's gonna elect you know nancy nancy then you know like he's the most picker nancy i mean i
01:30:05.340 really i don't see it i don't see nobody nobody's ever gonna be elected premier
01:30:10.480 seriously i think he's unelectable he's unelectable yeah look that's kind of how we
01:30:17.220 feel about everybody he's a big joe right let's talk about the questions on the referendum ballot
01:30:23.420 there are nine and there is a a movement on social media right now saying decline the nine
01:30:30.020 does that mean no to everything where did he go oh he's coming back for one more question i don't
01:30:38.360 there he is here all right you left and now you're back so the nine questions is it no to everything
01:30:44.700 people are asking me if they only vote on option two uh and not in any any of the other questions
01:30:51.120 will their ballot be declined no no because what they do and i that's exactly what i did i went
01:30:58.260 in to vote yesterday because i wanted to check it out so i could talk to our supporters and talk to 0.99
01:31:02.380 people that are voting right that's all you have to say it's like i don't want those stupid nine 0.99
01:31:06.980 ballots right they're dumb questions right um they're nonsensical i refuse to insult my 0.99
01:31:13.260 intelligence by casting a vote on whether or not you know we should abolish the canadian senate i 0.98
01:31:19.560 mean you know at that point danielle should be ashamed of herself abolish the canadian senate
01:31:23.820 she could have just as easily say do you support you know an elected senate like why would we
01:31:29.580 abolish it right that uh you know that's you know equal and effective where every province has you
01:31:34.880 know an equal number of senate seats like you know why wouldn't we do that you know that was
01:31:39.200 the big you know that was the big platform of the reform party for years the triple e senate right
01:31:43.700 yeah no we're going to abolish it right i mean how are you going to abolish the senate it's part
01:31:48.820 of the bedrock of the canadian constitution it's written right into the constitution act 1867
01:31:53.960 right so without reopening the constitution and amending the constitution act 1867 there's no way
01:32:01.400 to get rid of the senate you know you're insulting our intelligence by you know even asking the
01:32:07.460 question we're more likely to be able to vote canada or alberta out of canada by following
01:32:12.720 the clarity act and the secession reference than you ever would be in abolishing the senate and why
01:32:18.260 would we waste our time doing that when we can just go for independence so what i'm telling 0.95
01:32:22.600 everybody that this is what i did right i said i don't want to answer those stupid nine questions 0.69
01:32:27.700 at all just give me question 10 right so i can merely mark option two down and put it in one 0.59
01:32:34.080 ballot box and walk out the other reason is of course you've heard you know what i think of 0.99
01:32:38.840 danielle smith's powers of negotiation and her ability to negotiate with the federal government 1.00
01:32:44.220 why would we empower her to continue to waste her time 1.00
01:32:49.080 groveling to the federal government trying to so-called 1.00
01:32:52.000 he'll be back
01:32:56.060 just let me put him up here
01:33:00.660 jeff sorry okay you're a blank screen right now but that's all right oh there you are okay so
01:33:09.040 anyway you were talking about danielle smith and why would we empower her to grovel to the federal
01:33:12.940 government please continue yeah no i mean why would we empower daniel smith by you know by
01:33:18.520 answering any of those questions it's going to be quite clear you know in the back
01:33:22.360 all right one more time here
01:33:28.560 you're there are we back you're there yeah okay there there we go all right let's get this one
01:33:37.660 out so we can wrap it up or we could be doing this all night it's going to be quite clear
01:33:42.360 and it's going to be quite clear when the ballots sorry go ahead it's going to be quite clear when
01:33:49.880 the ballots are counted you know how many people have declined to give danielle the vote of
01:33:54.700 confidence um you know by voting you know on those questions at all i mean the ndp people
01:34:01.200 are no to the nine like getting rid of the canadian senate has been ndp policy since
01:34:07.540 ed broadbent was the leader right probably going back to staniel stanley knolls for christ's sake
01:34:12.940 but these people are like oh no we cannot abolish the canadian senate because we are
01:34:18.740 it's like whoa like really is that where any people are at now you're just gonna say no to
01:34:24.320 everything is the easiest thing to do it's a slogan no to the nine you know and we all know
01:34:29.080 that danielle's a liar she's not going to do anything that anybody asked her to do anyway
01:34:32.980 if she doesn't want to do it right so those questions are completely irrelevant right the 0.61
01:34:37.980 only question that matters is question 10 right question 10 and people need to vote you know
01:34:42.580 option two question 10 period right that's it option option two question 10 all right now i
01:34:48.720 said earlier that there are nine questions. I meant 10. Sorry about that. And again, as Jeff
01:34:54.560 says, question 10, option two, not that we're telling you what to do or anything, but if you
01:35:00.340 believe in an independent Alberta, that's what you need to do. Is this too confusing? Are there like
01:35:05.860 10 separate ballots for this or are they all on? Are they all on one? Okay, you're back. Are there
01:35:17.000 10 separate ballots jeff or is there just like one big long ballot that you've got to read
01:35:23.720 through like toilet paper what's it like
01:35:26.080 you keep buffering shadow i think the problems that you're in rather than mine today
01:35:34.560 but anyway it's okay no it's good it's good it's good over here so um
01:35:40.480 the ballot is it a big long ballot or is it like 10 no no no that's the thing they give you
01:35:48.400 they give you 10 separate slips of paper they're little slips of paper they give you 10 separate
01:35:53.580 ones and you don't have to take all of them i just said like i don't want the other nine because
01:35:58.460 i'm not going to waste my time looking at them i'm not going to put a line through them i'm not
01:36:01.740 going to spoil them just give me question 10 so they say do you decline the nine and i said yes
01:36:06.720 ma'am i declined to nine just give me question 10 and they give you question 10 and it doesn't
01:36:11.400 spoil your ballot because you take your question 10 you mark option two you put it in the box and
01:36:16.540 then you don't have to waste your time putting you know stuff in all the other boxes because 0.99
01:36:20.040 they're stupid questions anyway like they're designed to confuse people they're designed 0.97
01:36:24.380 to give people the false hope that if you answer these questions you don't need alberta doesn't 1.00
01:36:29.540 need to be independent right right right um you know it's a cynical they're a cynical political
01:36:34.940 ploy on the part of danielle smith and i you know i refuse to participate there's lots of other
01:36:39.720 albertans who feel the same way you know that understand politics the same way i do and that
01:36:44.700 are as disgusted with danielle smith as i am that feel the same way and they're going to be voting
01:36:48.480 the same way but you know by all means if you want to register you know if you think danielle
01:36:52.860 smith is actually going to do anything about immigration by all means answer yes to her 0.99
01:36:57.120 immigration question if it makes you feel better you know damn well she's a liar and she's not 0.90
01:37:00.960 going to do anything about it but go ahead if it makes you feel better right but you know i'm not 0.62
01:37:05.960 wasting my i'm not wasting my time doing that i'm you know it's just give me question 10 option two
01:37:11.420 thank you i'm out of here my friend you are a riot and you're a good man and i want to thank
01:37:18.580 you for coming on tonight sharing the information with and i wish you all the best and and all the
01:37:23.080 hard work that you guys have put in over the last few years matt i hope it pays off for you
01:37:27.100 really do shadow thanks for having me on if i can just say one last thing again everybody
01:37:35.100 if you care about alberta if you care about your family you care about your future get out your
01:37:39.920 phone you'll be back
01:37:45.060 the phone 10 or 15 people every day between now and monday and get as many of your friends family
01:37:53.780 and contacts out to vote drive people to the polls make sure that we get as many people out
01:37:59.140 to vote as we can numbers matter the more of us that vote for independence the bigger the headache 0.99
01:38:04.840 we're going to give to mark carney and the rest of these communist bastards that are trying to 0.95
01:38:09.020 destroy our province and our country my friend thank you very much have a great rest of your 0.97
01:38:13.300 night thank you very much have a great rest of your night you bet you have a good evening thank
01:38:17.720 All right. There's Jeff Rath. Very, very solid voice for Alberta independence. And I should let
01:38:25.120 you guys know if you're watching in Alberta right now, if you're resident of Alberta, that you can
01:38:28.760 go to the polls and vote in advance polling until Saturday and then the actual day. And it's limited
01:38:36.020 polling stations, by the way. So you've got to go to Elections Alberta online, find out where you can
01:38:40.600 go and vote and then do so in advance polling if you want to. But the big day where there'll be
01:38:46.200 polling stations everywhere is monday and we should be finding out who wins and who doesn't
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