The Shadoe Davis Show - Oct. 29th： Guest Dan McTeague President of Canadians for Affordable Energy

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00:06:00.000 hello everybody welcome to shadow at night this is tuesday october 29th

00:06:29.480 It's deadline day for Justin Trudeau as far as the Bloc Quebecois is concerned anyway.

00:06:34.520 Will they or won't they try to pull the trigger on a non-confidence vote?

00:06:39.160 No, I don't think they will.

00:06:41.600 They can't actually because Parliament is paralyzed right now because the Liberals won't give these documents that the rest of Parliament wants to the RCMP regarding the $400 million green slush fund.

00:06:53.220 So no government business can proceed in the House of Commons at present.

00:06:58.480 However, that could change in the next couple of days. And the bloc have said, well, at least the

00:07:03.640 leader of the bloc have said, we'll take the first opportunity. We're talking with the leaders of

00:07:07.500 other parties right now. We'll take the first opportunity to bring down the government as long

00:07:12.280 as the non-confidence motion doesn't have something to do with the fact that there's going to be

00:07:19.060 pipelines or they're going to remove the carbon tax because we believe in that stuff. So there's

00:07:24.100 a lot of complicated negotiations going on behind closed doors. We have a former liberal MP, an 18

00:07:31.260 year liberal MP on the show tonight. His name is Dan McTeague. He's also the president of Canadians

00:07:37.820 for Affordable Energy. And you probably remember him best as a senior analyst for Gas Buddy. Dan

00:07:43.960 McTeague joins the show in just a couple of minutes. As a matter of fact, here's a video of

00:07:49.180 Dan, talking about the green scam, at least as far as I call it, and all of the grifters along

00:07:56.100 the way. This is from a podcast called The Victoria Rumble Room a few months ago. Check it out.

00:08:01.560 Patients receive money so they can come up with trendy little studies, many of them not peer

00:08:06.380 reviewed, many of them where there's never been a cost benefit analysis. And thankful, I think the

00:08:11.040 next government's going to take those people, cut them off at the knees and say, if you want to push

00:08:14.900 kind of studies out you do without having your nose directly connected to the public trough

00:08:19.800 because we're sick and tired of the fanaticism not based on science but based on whimsical

00:08:24.940 thinking you can somehow get rid of these things I'm upset for one reason because we're now seeing

00:08:30.380 a Canadian economy in real decline people can't afford to make ends meet energy prices have gone

00:08:36.220 through the roof I've been saying for six or seven years now if you continue down this road

00:08:40.840 then what you're going to wind up with is an economy which is going to be very difficult to

00:08:44.780 turn around and we find ourselves increasingly at that point where it may not be we may not be able

00:08:51.140 as a country to pull back i saw this stuff in the 1990s as a member of parliament when we went deep

00:08:55.240 into debt we're probably in a worse situation now than we were then and anybody who has any

00:08:59.820 misgivings about this had better sharpen up because if you're going to listen to a couple of

00:09:03.360 you know pied pipers who have their own environmental agenda making sure they get

00:09:08.000 tons of rift call themselves charity so there's no scrutiny as to the kind of charitable work

00:09:12.660 that they do there's a number of ways to skin this cat i hate to use that expression but i think

00:09:17.100 these people need to be exposed for the frauds that they are and the deception that they're

00:09:21.400 providing all right there is dan mcteague once again the president of canadians for affordable

00:09:26.820 energy he joins the show in just a moment the shadow at night live stream is brought to you

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00:10:38.680 canadananosilver.com hello dan there was a lot to unpack with the bomb that you dropped on the

00:10:47.440 rumble room victoria podcast a few months ago i want to start with the grifters and by the way

00:10:52.760 welcome to the show thanks for coming on tonight it's great to be here it's been a long long time

00:10:57.080 but glad to meet up with you here, and let's let her have some fun tonight. 0.66

00:11:01.860 Yeah, let's do that.

00:11:02.720 The last time we talked, I was hosting a corporate radio morning show

00:11:06.320 for Chorus Entertainment.

00:11:08.240 You were with Gas Buddy, you were the senior analyst.

00:11:13.380 What happened with Gas Buddy?

00:11:14.940 Can you talk about that publicly, or is that something you want to keep to yourself?

00:11:17.700 No, no, we parted ways.

00:11:20.040 I was more interested in what was happening in Canada

00:11:21.900 rather than bingo calling gas prices in the United States,

00:11:24.340 which is primarily what my job was.

00:11:27.080 But I was deeply concerned, and as I had been since about 2015, 2016, the direction the country was taking, not just politically, but also economically, and the impacts it was having on energy prices.

00:11:39.060 And of course, my many, many moody predictions had said that Canadians would wind up paying a significant toll, much more than what they can expect and much more than what they could afford to pay for,

00:11:51.480 considering the federal government's attack on our energy sector,

00:11:55.460 blocking pipelines, emissions, carbon taxes.

00:11:59.060 And, of course, all that added in, weak Canadian dollar,

00:12:02.840 which takes 139 pennies to buy a U.S. dollar today or more.

00:12:07.980 This has happened before, four years ago, and happened several years ago.

00:12:11.140 But adding in no small way to the inflationary hit

00:12:14.780 that many Canadians are struggling with right now.

00:12:17.680 And, of course, we're just seeing maybe the first or second inning of this show

00:12:21.460 and it's not looking very good for the Canadian economy no matter what they do now a lot of what

00:12:27.460 we're experiencing today government that is engaged in reckless spending a government that

00:12:32.180 has been printing money a government that has attacked the very golden goose that supports

00:12:37.060 our social programs and our finances in this country all these things have been traded aside

00:12:41.300 and that's primarily why I left my work at Gas Buddy after five years and for the past six years

00:12:46.580 have been here at a little organization called Canadians for Affordable Energy and our point is

00:12:50.900 simply about ensuring that we have policies that reflect what i think many canadians take for

00:12:56.260 granted and that's not just the availability of energy but also that it comes at a price which

00:13:00.660 most of us can afford and for which all of us have benefited from whether we'd like to not over the

00:13:04.740 past 20 30 40 years canadians for affordable energy is that a lobby group is it a think tank

00:13:10.740 what do you guys do exactly it's dan mctagg doing a lot of work and uh putting together you know

00:13:16.340 almost 20 years in the house of commons and working as a policy advisor for several liberal

00:13:20.180 ministers and members of parliament my own time 18 years as a member of parliament as well as my

00:13:24.860 experience in the private sector both with companies like Toyota Canada, Royal Bank and of

00:13:30.800 course my work on energy which I think has been well known for the past 30 years. The bottom line

00:13:35.580 is to try to find ways to help people manage their budgets and ensure that energy pricing rather than

00:13:41.160 being a drag in fact becomes a solution to our standard of living our way of life. I think I've

00:13:47.080 proven that though, Shadow, and you had talked about this, about predicting gas prices. It just

00:13:50.820 didn't happen out of thin air. It goes back to my time in 1998, 1997, when I was deeply concerned

00:13:57.340 about retail gas companies going out of business because they were being squeezed by their, you

00:14:02.620 know, their supplier and in many respects, competitor. And that created a situation where

00:14:08.520 we saw a lot of gas stations exit the market. Prices started to go up. And of course, consumers

00:14:13.000 were stuck with what was called lockstep pricing i got around lockstep pricing by uh figuring out

00:14:18.600 how they priced and then made that publicly available every day or two before that actually

00:14:22.600 happens and most people again they can take it for granted wonderful when i'm dead and gone they'll

00:14:28.040 uh they'll uh they'll have an opportunity to continue that uh but it has saved over the years

00:14:33.160 uh tens of thousands of dollars for many many people uh in the time in which i've been doing

00:14:37.960 this going back to 1997 so that's what uh 27 28 years since i invented that and glad to see others

00:14:44.780 are joining in some people may not think it's a big deal but you know give an example shout out

00:14:49.200 tomorrow in many parts of canada gas prices uh will will plummet uh three four cents a liter

00:14:54.760 uh welcome news the fact that people have that in advance allows them to on their 50 or 60 liter

00:15:00.760 fill up save three or four bucks you can do that once a week times 50 weeks 52 weeks a year

00:15:06.260 is 150 bucks over the past 30 years. Go figure. Yeah, that would add up to a lot of money over

00:15:13.300 that period of time. You were a liberal MP, Dan, from 93 to 2011, I think it was, under Jean

00:15:19.920 Chrétien first and then Paul Martin. Let me ask you, because here we are in 2024, we have a

00:15:26.000 completely different liberal party, at least so it seems, from the party that you were a member of

00:15:30.960 and a member of Parliament for, how exactly has it changed?

00:15:36.400 How has it morphed?

00:15:39.320 Well, members of Parliament in my time worked in the party,

00:15:42.480 distinguished themselves publicly, and were called upon to ask

00:15:46.920 if they wanted to consider a role in the party and, of course, in public life.

00:15:51.560 And we had leaders like Jean-Claude Sainz, and we had people like Paul Martin,

00:15:55.620 We had leaders after and before who were very deferential to public opinion and to the difference of opinion.

00:16:03.780 So bottom line is each one of these people were, you know, were were people who had been really knit from from various backgrounds and had really distinguished themselves and had become names in their communities or in their in their faculty or the area in which they define themselves.

00:16:20.340 So the prime minister would basically choose the best team, but those members of parliament really could, you know, walk and chew gum and stand on their own and really had a brain before they went in.

00:16:29.920 They weren't there, sign an oath of fealty to the leader or have the leader go and say you have to agree certain conditions in order to be a candidate.

00:16:38.420 That's what makes it different in terms of the quality and caliber of candidates that we had.

00:16:42.120 The second is that we were a party that was not ideologically underpinned.

00:16:48.360 we were not you know held back to a certain regime and certain narrative uh and i'm not

00:16:54.700 talking just about what trudeau's obsession is you know euthanasia abortion no we were not told

00:17:00.780 at the time you know that you were uh you were you were supposed to be socially responsible and

00:17:05.600 provide opportunities for people to make better lives of themselves and that's really the pursuit

00:17:09.920 many of us had now it's just socialist and i'm not afraid of saying that this is a socialist

00:17:14.400 closed left-wing far left-wing party it's not even a liberal party it has no bearing to the

00:17:21.340 liberal party I knew as a child and as a young man growing up remember I joined the liberal party in

00:17:26.460 1974 working in Hugh Faulkner's riding in Peterborough uh stuffing envelopes uh uh back at

00:17:33.420 that time and uh you know trying to help put signs together I then worked for Paul Cosgrove in 78

00:17:38.620 79 and 1980, Derek Lee, Alvin Curling, as the names goes on before I finally ran in my own right in 1992 and became candidate for what was then called Ontario Riding, which is Pickering, Ajax and Whitby.

00:17:51.500 Of course, that, you know, that meant many, many years working in the trenches and understanding what the real Liberal Party was.

00:17:57.860 And so I can go back and pull books like this from Jack Pickersgill, a fellow from, you know, from from Newfoundland, who at the time was undersecretary to Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson.

00:18:10.580 And even Pearson himself, although we talk about Pearson, a lot of us don't really know about him, but he wrote many points about what liberalism was.

00:18:17.540 And he, you know, he made he made a point of trying to distinguish.

00:18:20.560 And here's an example. In other words, liberalism accepts social security, but rejects socialism.

00:18:27.000 He goes on and says, it accepts free enterprise, but rejects economic anarchy.

00:18:32.420 And it accepts humanitarianism, but rejects paternalism.

00:18:36.040 Those are just small examples of the kind of liberal party I knew.

00:18:40.300 It was that had this sort of principle, this sort of consensus building, bringing people together.

00:18:45.400 That's been completely obliterated on Justin Trudeau because the guy had no idea what the party was that he overtook.

00:18:50.820 In fact, it's very distinct from what his father used to espouse.

00:18:54.520 one of the most critical things his father could stand up to uh to opposition within his own ranks

00:19:00.080 he said you got an issue you want to take up with me that's fine you talk about the caucus

00:19:03.680 i'll let you have a free vote you can do whatever you want credit the same thing if you're strong

00:19:08.480 enough and you're willed enough to stand on these justin can't handle any any opposition from within

00:19:13.360 his own ranks which makes this whole affair of the past week kind of interesting uh but really

00:19:17.980 a sideshow given that this is a man who chose his candidates based on their fealty to him and to him

00:19:24.020 alone. You know, this is interesting because you lived through the tumult of 2001-2002,

00:19:31.160 the sponsorship scandal, Paul Martin, the mutineers taking over the ship that Jean

00:19:37.060 Chrétien was steering the captain of for nine or ten years. Is that a lot the same as what's going

00:19:44.220 on today, or was that a lot the same, or was it a completely different ballgame back then?

00:19:49.160 It was different at that time. The members of Parliament were not afraid to express themselves.

00:19:52.320 I happen to be one of those mutineers, and I, you know, I had great respect for Mr. Kretzsing, but I also felt it was time for change, and I wasn't afraid to say it, nor was I cowering from the media.

00:20:03.300 If someone does a Google search and says, you know, let's go see what Dan McTague was doing in Chicoutimi, or Schoenigan, Chicoutimi, rather, in summer of 2002, they'll see that I very much was very outspoken on a number of projects, a number of ideas.

00:20:16.120 But I think Jean Cretzine himself and even Eddie Goldenberg, his secretary, principal secretary, and the one before that, Percy Downey, who's now a senator, admitted at the time, they said, you know, nine years, you know, your time's up.

00:20:28.280 You know, you've done a good job. Move on.

00:20:30.060 You have three majority governments.

00:20:31.440 Mr. Cretzine, it's time to, you know, give the field to someone else.

00:20:34.740 Let them mess it up.

00:20:35.580 And they did.

00:20:37.020 But the fact is that we are looking at a very different time in which members of parliament haven't got the backbone.

00:20:42.720 And those that do are already leaving, exiting.

00:20:44.600 They're not going to run next time. So it doesn't matter if they sit as independents or they sit within the caucus, what is left of it until the election.

00:20:51.460 You got out in 2011. Was that because you lost the election or you just decided not to run again?

00:20:56.600 I wasn't able to. No, my I won by 10,000, 11,000 votes in 2008, lost by six, seven, eight hundred votes in in 2011.

00:21:04.920 And it was it was a godsend for me. Best thing that ever happened.

00:21:07.960 I was able to finally get out and and really happy that I did.

00:21:11.860 My fellow next to me, who I shared my old boundaries with, John McKay and I, when I went to Ottawa in 1981-82, my work was called Riding Analysis.

00:21:22.220 And that's what they hired me for, to work in Paul Cosgrove's office.

00:21:25.380 And I knew full well that if I'd stayed or gone over to Scarborough Guildwood, John McKay had done what he wanted to do, which is go Scarborough East and keep that part of the riding at Pickering, it would have been a different outcome.

00:21:36.580 I said, John, we'll have a tough election someday.

00:21:38.760 I'm on the Pickering side.

00:21:39.840 I will lose and you will win.

00:21:41.300 And by the way, it wasn't the conservative vote that did me in in my riding.

00:21:45.420 It's all those wonderful liberals who just love to vote NDP.

00:21:48.580 So there's a little bit of irony for you.

00:21:51.200 Vote splitting was a thing even back then.

00:21:54.060 Did you see Justin Trudeau coming even back then?

00:21:59.320 I mean, I think he was a backbench member around then.

00:22:02.820 Because I can tell you, Dan, that when I heard that personally, when I heard that Justin Trudeau was going to run as a liberal, I went, oh, no, it's only a matter of time before he takes over that party.

00:22:18.760 Did you see that coming?

00:22:20.440 Yeah, well, I saw it coming because he wrote me a letter, a wonderful letter that I like to give to my liberal colleagues out there who, when I attack them and go after them, don't like me to reveal this letter.

00:22:29.140 but it basically says a lot of things about the great work i did looks forward to seeing me again

00:22:32.820 may 11th so i knew he was he was definitely coming back or he was going to try to run

00:22:37.060 as leader you could see that in the early days but definitely by 2011 he was uh when the loss

00:22:42.080 of the party was so complete i mean we were reduced to 32 seats i think i was ranked number

00:22:46.640 33 of the in terms of my uh my uh my numbers uh but anybody who got ahead of me actually won by

00:22:53.960 100 votes or more anyone who was behind him obviously lost um but no i got the impression

00:22:59.200 right from the get-go that when he was out doing all his speaking and tours the liberal party

00:23:04.080 desk was desperate they've been decimated in in 2011 so this was the great messiah who was going

00:23:10.220 to take them to the promised land and uh he did he did in fact i mean to to his credit the name

00:23:16.380 trudeau rang a bell and many parents said told their kids you get out there this isn't just about

00:23:21.580 voting for dope this we want you to get out and vote for just for pierre trudeau and he did great

00:23:26.020 things he brought us to this country um and so there's that sense of uh of getting it right in

00:23:31.660 2015 that people said yeah you know we give the conservatives three terms including the last

00:23:35.860 majority but now we have to go back to where we started and that it was the solution it was a

00:23:41.280 short-term fix for the liberal party because they didn't spend too much time out of opposition in

00:23:45.220 fact it was third position coming back to first but the problem is it never redefined itself it

00:23:50.900 never defined itself in the eyes of people and today it's just seen as you know as a as a group

00:23:55.840 of individuals pushing a woke agenda and spending a lot of money that the country simply doesn't

00:24:00.220 have what is your take dan on this woke mind syndrome as elon musk calls it i i mean i i call

00:24:09.520 it neo-marxism it's a new brand of marxism old school thinking is controlled the means of

00:24:15.420 reproduction. That's what Marx wrote back in the day. And these days it's morphed into control,

00:24:21.000 the means of communication. Stop anybody from speaking who has a different point of view than

00:24:26.780 you, whether it's through social media, whether it's through corporate media, whether it's through

00:24:30.580 direct conversation. We're seeing this all over the place in city and town councils and school

00:24:35.120 boards, even where if you want to stand up and say, no, I don't believe that kids should be able to 0.80

00:24:40.760 read books on gay sex at eight years old they call you a bigot they call you a racist 0.96

00:24:45.960 and you're anti-trans and you get kicked out and and the police will accompany you on your way out 0.97

00:24:51.240 the door what is all of this about and where do you think it came from very dangerous narrative

00:24:57.520 designed to uh get people to conform to what is uh really a deaf for me a deforming of uh society

00:25:05.480 it's an attack on everything of value valuable whether it's economic whether it's social

00:25:10.640 whether it is the principles that have brought this country to the great place that it is,

00:25:14.940 all of these things have now been not just subject to doubt,

00:25:17.700 they've actually been repudiated.

00:25:19.160 And with it has come a decline, a collapse that everybody feels.

00:25:23.100 Same except the woke that are out there who get the odd bit of grift here and there

00:25:26.280 and are given little taps on the head so they can go out and munch down a little bit of granola

00:25:30.820 in their little hubbles wherever they live, with taxpayers looking after them.

00:25:36.040 The reality is that the country has fallen.

00:25:38.280 and it isn't just an international thing i mean obviously we know that our trading partners aren't

00:25:43.420 very happy with us we know that there's no trust in terms of our security uh we have to look at the

00:25:49.000 uh these the weaknesses in our institutions where governments are saying hey listen we have a problem

00:25:53.840 with unemployment so we're going to simply employ a bunch of civil servants um we have this idea that

00:25:58.860 money grows on trees and that we can spend with abandon that the country always do this and that

00:26:04.820 somehow we've been very bad in the way in which our history has been treated nothing is of value

00:26:10.560 we've basically said tear down the the totem poles to use a pure elliot trudeau and we've done that

00:26:16.580 with uh enormous uh lack of pushback from people who ought to know better and now we've got a real

00:26:22.700 mess in our hands um there's an old expression i won't say what it is but i do love it f-a-f-o and

00:26:28.780 i think most of your listeners will know exactly what that is uh f around and find out and that's

00:26:33.760 what we've done we basically said who cares if someone else's responsibility well if you don't

00:26:39.120 look after your country and the way our parents and our grandparents fought for it and developed

00:26:43.120 it and sacrificed for it then of course it's going to die unfortunately that which goes with it is a

00:26:48.980 whole generation of children and people who will never know the great experiment this country so

00:26:53.360 now of course is rather running the country off we've gone down and seen this experiment i think

00:26:58.840 we're opening a new page in which people universally recognize the malignancy that

00:27:05.100 has been allowed to metastasize. And it's time to basically replace what we have and get back to

00:27:11.820 what really works. And I think that's going to happen over the next year. And a lot of people

00:27:15.120 from a lot of political strands are going to come together on this. I think that's already starting

00:27:18.360 to happen. Dan, when you were in government as a liberal MP, were there certain things

00:27:26.200 a government wouldn't do were the checks and balances i think in our government is what people

00:27:31.380 are concerned about and how this version of the liberal party has just rolled over them with their

00:27:35.820 carbon taxing with uh declaring the emergencies act and whatnot as a matter of fact daniel smith

00:27:41.620 the premier of alberta said today that they're going to take the government the federal government

00:27:45.280 to court over the carbon tax carve-out they gave to the atlantic provinces she thinks is unfair

00:27:50.680 and unconstitutional and unlawful.

00:27:52.960 Do these people even understand

00:27:54.700 that many of the things they have done

00:27:57.860 over the past few years are unconstitutional?

00:28:01.340 Or do they just not care?

00:28:02.740 Unconstitutional on a Canadian, yes.

00:28:03.920 They do understand that, 0.67

00:28:05.140 but they're so willing and so into their own press releases

00:28:09.740 and their own headlines and their own talking points

00:28:11.960 that they don't give a damn for anything else.

00:28:14.380 The country is a diverse nation.

00:28:16.400 It is a nation which has survived on intricacies

00:28:18.960 of people willing to as i mentioned earlier consensus willing to put a little bit of water

00:28:22.960 with their wine and try to work to cobble out something that's better for everybody in general

00:28:26.480 i mean united we stand divided we fall and we're you know the the chain is only as strong as the

00:28:31.760 weakest like whatever example you want to use but there's now significant serious pushback and yes

00:28:36.960 daniela smith in alberta but i mean even look at the look at the whole net zero agenda this whole

00:28:42.560 thing i've done on affordability has all everything to do with the fact that you know we are being

00:28:46.480 pushed by an international movement to say that one particular molecule presides over everything

00:28:52.640 that we should be concerned that if there's you know one morning it's raining next morning it's

00:28:55.920 sunny that that's a sign of climate change and that is an emergency it's a disaster and to do

00:29:02.680 that we've piled on all regulations and all kinds of policies to make a few alarmist fanatics and

00:29:08.720 catastrophes happy I think it's time for most Canadians I think many Canadians are starting to

00:29:13.160 degree the squeaky wheel no longer gets the oil it gets replaced what about all the lying i mean

00:29:20.920 we've always known as members of the public that politicians are going to fudge the truth sometimes

00:29:26.760 outright lie other times but it's never it never seemed to have been as consequential

00:29:31.260 as it has been today as we become more and more polarized i mean trudeau last week or the week

00:29:37.020 before, told the entire country at the Foreign Inquiry Commission that he has the names on that

00:29:44.540 list of MPs or senators, parliamentarians who have been unwittingly or knowingly working for

00:29:51.360 foreign powers. And he refuses to give them out. But he did say there was some conservatives on

00:29:56.480 that list. But he knows we'll never, ever be able to prove him wrong because we'll never see the

00:30:02.400 names on that list, at least as far as he's concerned. I mean, how far are these people

00:30:07.060 willing to go? Well, as far as they are to cover up the litany of scandals and corruption that

00:30:13.500 appears to be popping up everywhere. I mean, there isn't a day that goes by that something

00:30:17.340 isn't happening. And it's, you know, Trudeau may reflect on that with Harper, but I've never seen

00:30:21.840 anything like this where, you know, in my time, one Gomory inquiry would have done us in. Here,

00:30:27.480 you have a gomri on quaaludes you've got it on steroids basically you know one major stdc arrive

00:30:35.640 can app um you know uh money that's going out the window and not being vetted properly i mean

00:30:41.920 there's all sorts of scandals and concerns uh you know with ministers like randy boasnow there's

00:30:47.420 uh concerns about uh uh you know how housing uh affordability has been compromised and who's

00:30:53.700 actually getting this money there is so much to go after I'm not sure the next government is going

00:30:58.740 to be able to do it in four years to go after all of this what I do know is that there is a greater

00:31:04.560 likelihood now that the given the acrimonious state of our parliament than the anger that

00:31:09.140 Canadians have I mean I'm hearing now people saying to me oh dad don't push to get Trudeau

00:31:13.700 out we want him there we want to have the luxury we want to have the benefit we want to have the

00:31:19.140 pleasure of kicking him to the curb and i hope he does stay there for that reason if for that reason

00:31:24.220 only but the man has done a terrible job and he's ruined pretty much everything he's touched he has 0.97

00:31:29.580 the uh the minus touch and reverse as they say everything he touches has turned to garbage and

00:31:34.780 yet there's still 22 percent of canadians out there what are they dope they have nothing in 0.92

00:31:38.860 their brains is a gray matter completely gone uh it frustrates me not that the liberals are doing

00:31:44.180 this but there's so many dolts out there who actually want to support these people again 0.90

00:31:47.700 whether it's liberal or NDP and dare I say even green you know you bring up a good point though

00:31:54.080 when we say the word liberal as far as the liberal party is concerned I think a lot of us go back to

00:31:59.680 the old version of what that party was when you were an MP for them like when it was supposed to

00:32:04.740 be liberal you know like you guys would look at everything pragmatically and then you would come

00:32:09.040 up with a decision you didn't you weren't as you pointed out ideologically driven but today that

00:32:14.040 is different uh the lies you you were talking about the climate uh grift uh on that podcast

00:32:20.900 back in victoria a few months ago and you've mentioned it a little bit tonight

00:32:24.180 when um our manager sorry minister of environment and climate change gilbo steps up and says

00:32:31.940 there's a fire over there climate change there's a hurricane over there climate change they're all

00:32:37.320 doing that these days do these people not have any pride or do they just think that canadians 1.00

00:32:42.200 are that stupid they never bring any proof either well they've got a generation of indoctrinated 1.00

00:32:47.240 people whether it's our institutions or schools that are teaching them this kind of hysteria 1.00

00:32:51.420 which has no place the science is not settled as steven coonan a man who actually studies this stuff

00:32:56.980 would have said as many other climate scientists have done true climate scientists i'm talking

00:33:01.340 about by the way steven coonan reads his book for those of us who haven't wrote a few years ago it's

00:33:06.900 called Unsettled. Stephen Coonan was the, you know, Environment Secretary to President Obama,

00:33:13.600 so we're not talking about a, you know, a right-wing fellow who happened to work for the

00:33:19.200 Republicans. His point is simply that you haven't proven this. The science groups that are coming

00:33:24.320 forward are usually well-funded by governments to come out with only one particular conclusion.

00:33:29.500 And I think that might have been okay 10 years ago. It's not okay now, because a lot of people

00:33:33.820 strength say wait a minute we are getting variable temperatures we've had variable temperatures for

00:33:38.040 many years and we're going to continue to have those they know there is a dynamic in terms of

00:33:42.940 our atmosphere that is extraordinarily difficult to discern and you know as i'd like to say if

00:33:48.960 weathermen cannot figure who are jumping all over this stuff because they get griffed from the

00:33:52.600 federal government i think of uh some of the uh some of the media out there some of the uh weather

00:33:58.280 networks and other things like that that receive money from the federal government all they want

00:34:01.500 to talk about ad nauseum is climate. But, you know, if folks can't get tomorrow's, you know,

00:34:08.360 weather prediction correct, how the hell are they going to be able to get in the next 10,

00:34:11.180 20, 30, 40 years? And usually spectacularly wrong as predicted.

00:34:16.560 How many different climate grift groups are out there that are being funded by the public? I mean,

00:34:22.200 I'm sure that you've done some kind of a headcount over the last couple of years since you've been

00:34:27.140 president of the canadians for affordable energy group i mean there's got to be you know some

00:34:32.520 people that come directly to mind yeah well the big ones the canadian federation municipalities

00:34:38.040 receives a couple billion bucks every year that started by the way by accident by paul martin

00:34:41.780 way back when we gave them back money back in 20 2006 2005 but here's the thing i mean they will

00:34:50.740 receive money canadian climate institute would be another one i love going after them because they

00:34:55.180 They got 52 million bucks from the federal government.

00:34:57.340 Every time the federal government comes out and says something about climate,

00:34:59.520 guess who's out there with a press release right behind them?

00:35:01.940 The fact is that no one knows who supports them.

00:35:04.080 I support myself here.

00:35:05.560 We have people who actually, you know, we write out and say, hey,

00:35:08.000 would you like to donate a bit of money?

00:35:09.480 Plus, you know, I worked in the private sector.

00:35:12.120 I worked my bunts off.

00:35:13.240 I have an MP pension.

00:35:14.860 And believe it or not, I know what I'm doing.

00:35:16.880 So a lot of the studies that I'm doing involves reading a book and looking up

00:35:20.260 the documents myself where I need to write my op-eds or whatever the case

00:35:25.080 may be but enough about me i don't go around asking the federal government for billions of

00:35:29.460 dollars i'm sure not going to ask the oil companies for their money they don't like me because they

00:35:33.060 predict gas prices they've been losing tens of millions of dollars on my predictions for years

00:35:36.880 nevertheless i'm not about who's right who's wrong the reality here is that no one should

00:35:43.040 be giving money to organizations that call themselves charitable and in fact do no charity

00:35:47.900 and foundations that are created simply for the purposes of getting the government to give them

00:35:52.660 money for which they have no other objective but to skew the debate skew the argument and to

00:35:59.000 basically uh you know polish the apple of the federal government when it comes to anything to

00:36:03.700 do with climate the reality is that it's now an important issue but it's nowhere near the top five

00:36:09.740 and for most canadians now you've sacrificed in pursuit of that particular goal you've sacrificed

00:36:15.520 affordability and you've now hurt the unity within the country within the federation no one had the

00:36:21.000 the right to do that and the grifters should all know that in one year from now their money

00:36:25.680 is going including the canadian federation of municipalities who has a tendency to show up

00:36:30.780 every once in a while to say you know wonderful things about what the federal government is doing

00:36:34.180 and how we have to keep talking about climate emergencies and whatnot by the way and this is

00:36:38.840 not to get too much of a point down the road i think if there's a new government happens to be

00:36:43.100 pure polyester conservatives he has two challenges yes we know the senate is stacked by

00:36:46.980 so it's going to be very hard to move legislation and change but he's also got the

00:36:52.920 federation of municipalities which will receive billions of dollars of your tax money and mine

00:36:56.760 much that money by the way earned by the oil and gas sector which provides anywhere from 20 to 40

00:37:02.060 billion dollars in net revenues to the federal provincial municipal governments in this country

00:37:06.140 every damn year my friend this is something i want to talk about the second that you brought

00:37:11.280 up the canadian federation of municipalities this is something uh that i have personally 0.98

00:37:15.760 been looking into is several of my friends across the country have been maggie hope ron is one who

00:37:20.980 started a group called kickly which is a play on words of the organization icly which is from the

00:37:27.640 united nations it's their climate group that branches into different countries icly in canada

00:37:33.340 is the partners for climate protection which is hand in hand with the federation of canadian

00:37:40.940 municipalities when you look up icly canada what comes up is the partners for climate protection

00:37:47.100 and they brag about having 400 municipalities from coast to coast as a member of their club

00:37:55.020 do you know do you know anything about that i do know about them i know of organizations that work

00:38:00.140 within them as well here in ontario of course we uh we had um what was the name of that group

00:38:05.740 Rick Gibbons and his group working here, Clean Air Ontario and a bunch of others that fall into that.

00:38:12.040 And where they go is they say to municipalities, we convinced you two years ago, three years ago to accept that there's a climate crisis.

00:38:18.500 Well, now that you've done that, guess what?

00:38:20.440 You have to admit that we have to do something about it.

00:38:22.920 Let's get rid of all natural gas backups.

00:38:24.960 In other words, the stuff that provides energy in a moment's notice when our nukes can't live up to it,

00:38:30.660 when other provinces are taken, like Quebec in particular, which takes a lot of our energy here in Ontario,

00:38:35.480 at certain times of the year, especially.

00:38:37.500 So now we have municipalities

00:38:38.860 that have been sort of bamboozled.

00:38:41.400 They've been, you know,

00:38:43.380 they've been sort of kicked in the head 0.83

00:38:45.940 because they're not sophisticated.

00:38:47.500 I'm not taking away from municipalities.

00:38:49.580 I'm sure they can do great work.

00:38:51.180 But since when do people

00:38:52.620 who are supposed to be looking after

00:38:53.980 the interests of municipalities

00:38:55.440 suddenly want to get into the climate scam?

00:38:58.920 Well, they say, well, it's because of flooding

00:39:00.300 and things like that.

00:39:01.140 Listen, we've had flooding here for generations.

00:39:02.980 It's not a new thing.

00:39:03.980 And we've had warm weather

00:39:04.980 and we've had cold weather and we've had bad weather

00:39:07.020 and we've had poor weather, we've had forest fires,

00:39:08.980 we've had all sorts of things, it's not going to change

00:39:11.180 because you advocate for a tax or that you shut down

00:39:13.600 the ability for people to make ends meet

00:39:15.140 and keep warm in the colder winter.

00:39:17.540 Well, what about the smart city concept,

00:39:20.040 which seems to be rolling out at breakneck speed

00:39:23.220 all across the country?

00:39:24.380 That's part of what these 400 municipalities

00:39:26.760 have signed up to do, I guess,

00:39:28.200 with the Partners for Climate Protection.

00:39:29.920 I know there's something going on in Winnipeg.

00:39:31.680 They've released a plan called the Winnipeg Municipal, sorry, Winnipeg Metropolitan Region Plan 2050.

00:39:37.960 I know there's a healthy city plan in Brandon.

00:39:40.860 I know Edmonton has got a smart city concept.

00:39:43.900 I know Vancouver has signed up for a 17 village proposition.

00:39:48.240 Calgary, Toronto, Montreal.

00:39:50.440 What's that all about? 0.99

00:39:51.700 Make work projects for folks who can't get a job in the real world.

00:39:55.460 I mean, frankly, it's just if someone's going to pay you this kind of money to come up with these wild ideas,

00:40:00.380 You know, it's the envy of guys like Joseph Stalin.

00:40:02.880 I'm sure that, you know, Kim Jong-un in North Korea would be very happy because he doesn't have anything more than 15-minute cities.

00:40:09.500 You can't travel very far out of them when you can, in fact, get energy.

00:40:12.600 Look, these are Debbie Downers who really do not want, you know, our nation to prosper and they don't want the nation to expand or grow.

00:40:20.340 They want to see things limited.

00:40:22.160 They want us to confine your ability to not just make decisions for yourself, but also to choose the things that you need that best suit you and your family.

00:40:30.300 In fact, they don't even want families.

00:40:32.020 This is really the, you know, the theater of the absurd.

00:40:36.440 And I think people who engage in this kind of stuff really need to think loud and clear about what's motivating them because it isn't about the wider public interest.

00:40:43.980 It's just trying to be cool.

00:40:45.480 Something my kids often like to say, because I know they go snake when they say they're trying to be trendy.

00:40:49.860 And unfortunately, it's not going to work.

00:40:52.160 They're as wrong about what's going to happen in 2050 with their net zero as they are, you know, getting people, forcing people into electric vehicles by 2035.

00:40:59.700 It ain't happening. And those who are advocating it are going to be shown the door.

00:41:03.420 And that's going to happen very soon.

00:41:05.520 What are your thoughts on Pierre Polyev?

00:41:09.540 I knew him.

00:41:10.860 This is a difficult question. I'm sorry to interrupt you.

00:41:13.100 This is a difficult question to answer as a former member of the Liberal Party.

00:41:16.200 Do you still feel that tug inside of you? 0.96

00:41:18.240 Well, I was a Liberal for all these years, but things have changed so dramatically now that it seems as though probably Polyev is the Liberal of today, right?

00:41:31.060 Yeah, I mean, I debated him. He was young, up and coming, very good, very polished, very knowledgeable.

00:41:37.460 He can wipe the floor with anybody in a debate, and I think media knows that.

00:41:41.120 So do politicians who know how to go up against him, and on that score, I think Canadians have already decided he's head and shoulders above pretty much anybody that's in the House of Commons.

00:41:48.240 today not a hard thing to do when you got guys like justin trudeau and uh jagmeet singh i think

00:41:53.060 pierre polyev's biggest challenge will be himself that is to ensure that he does maintain and to

00:41:58.800 grab the center uh even though he has the name of conservative a lot of canadians are saying hang

00:42:03.640 on a second i used to have a problem with that name but i have an even bigger problem paying my

00:42:07.460 mortgage or trying to buy food for the kids or trying to make ends meet so canadians haven't 0.96

00:42:12.180 got time for these kind of trendy stupid political partisan games that are great for you know people 0.99

00:42:16.800 sitting back and you know in their riches and saying we don't worry about how the rest of society 0.99

00:42:21.260 is going to work here probably i was tapped into the genius of canadians and whether you know there's

00:42:27.100 a lot of us who have been warning this is going to happen i think he is playing it very masterfully

00:42:31.000 i think there's a chance for the conservatives who actually for a very long period of time

00:42:35.200 occupy occupy the center of the political spectrum that is to get support from all all the areas of

00:42:41.400 the country from all demographic groups uh because people are hurting and they want someone who can

00:42:46.140 take them away from this terrible, woke agenda imposed by the left and advocated in particular by people who've never really had a job in their life

00:42:55.320 and people who've never really done anything more than having been given the job with a silver spoon.

00:43:01.400 I mean, a lot of people can say, well, Pierre Polyev has been a career politician.

00:43:04.580 They can say the same about me.

00:43:06.640 The difference is that Pierre Polyev didn't get his name, didn't become leader of the party and potentially the next prime minister of this country because his last name was Polyev.

00:43:15.040 He worked at it.

00:43:16.140 He's going to have to earn his stripes. And however history judges him, it will be the extent to which he can bring people together, unite them and work at the centre of the political spectrum, because the Liberals have completely abandoned that, along with the NDP.

00:43:28.840 there's no one who's speaking up for ordinary central Canadians and the idea that Canadians

00:43:34.360 are left-wing and they're all about you know this woke agenda that might have been worked in 2015

00:43:39.200 you know sunny ways that the junk that he borrowed from Wiltshire Wilford-Laurier which had nothing

00:43:43.800 to do with what he's in the context in which he presented it 2015 is over people are getting

00:43:49.140 serious their noses are to the grindstone they're going to hear from somebody who can try to patch

00:43:53.440 this country back up again because it badly needs it let me ask you about the media as you see them

00:43:59.800 now what's happened to them you know i think the smart ones the good ones the investigative

00:44:07.200 reporters the ones that used to do their work you had an issue would have someone devoted to

00:44:12.120 working on that issue and uh you didn't necessarily have to agree with what they said but man they

00:44:16.620 were really going to work hard that's all gone it's been halved it's been changed it's been

00:44:21.200 you've got virtue signalers now you know coming right out of you know journalism school it's not

00:44:27.400 like shadow your time or even my time where you dealt with people who were career journalists

00:44:31.880 and that's not necessarily the fault of anyone other than the fact that I think we've seen social

00:44:35.860 media rise to the extent that it has obviated the you know the the presence of mainstream media

00:44:42.260 but you know when you see things like what CTV did a couple of weeks ago the hatch job they try

00:44:47.260 to do on Pierre Polyev. This just

00:44:49.020 really feeds into the cynicism

00:44:50.860 of the public. It's one thing to be cynical

00:44:53.440 about politicians, but if a politician pulled that

00:44:55.320 kind of stunt, they'd be outed for it.

00:44:57.200 It works true for the media, and as much as

00:44:59.340 CTV apologized for it,

00:45:01.280 it's still not going to undo the damage. 1.00

00:45:03.680 Worse, Canadians who are

00:45:05.300 struggling are saying, hey, you know, this is still a government

00:45:07.200 that's pulling 30, 40, 50, 60%

00:45:09.520 in taxes from my pocket. 0.77

00:45:11.900 It's going to subsidize media 0.99

00:45:13.380 because they can't do the job on their own.

00:45:15.040 I'm not suggesting that they can. Maybe they can't stand on their own. And many of them obviously have failed and will fail. But we have to get right the idea, the balance that, you know, you sink or swim in this business. And if you can't survive, maybe you shouldn't be in the business anymore.

00:45:29.700 where do you see our country the world going and dan i know there's a lot of people that talk about

00:45:37.060 you know the western uh countries being captured by an ideology of globalism and ideas from the

00:45:45.200 world economic forum regarding the smart cities and whatnot and there was a great piece that

00:45:49.680 happened during covet a couple of years ago when they were remotely attending sessions uh one of

00:45:55.460 the mps i think from windsor maybe it was a conservative mp as conservative mp asked the

00:46:00.360 question about the capture of cabinet by the world economic forum because of that video with

00:46:06.920 klaus schwab on youtube and magically the speaker of the house couldn't hear him and then he never

00:46:13.400 got to repeat that question again is is there any outside involvement here is is justin trudeau

00:46:19.840 doing this on his own, from his own

00:46:21.740 ideology, or is he getting some

00:46:23.900 push from someplace else? What do you

00:46:25.800 think? Well, they're not hiding it anymore.

00:46:27.840 Chrystia Freeland is the director on the World Economic

00:46:29.860 Forum. Why she would have to be, I do

00:46:31.880 not know. This is the same group

00:46:33.820 that Mark Carney hails from.

00:46:35.760 You have elites with

00:46:37.680 wonderful ideas who are

00:46:39.140 more willing to mucky-muck

00:46:41.580 and rub shoulders with

00:46:43.500 world leaders, and the impression they want

00:46:45.800 to give is, let's push

00:46:47.400 a particular agenda, which

00:46:49.460 you know might be important on a global scale but has very little to do with what we're doing here

00:46:53.380 in canada and uh you know one of the biggest problems we have is we have a country that's

00:46:57.540 upside down you've had 12 countries some of our best allies come to our nation say please can you

00:47:02.220 use some natural gas and some oil we'd rather have it from you than we would from iran venezuela

00:47:06.060 russia take your pick and i'm not talking in small countries these are friends and allies of ours

00:47:10.800 you know and olav schultz comes to canada as chancellor and says i need some of your natural

00:47:15.460 gas or you know south korea does the same thing latvia poland lithuania and then we turn around 0.99

00:47:21.360 and say to them or in greece and we said there's no business case what kind of moron would actually 0.97

00:47:26.800 say something like that you have the third largest provable reserves of oil in the world 0.91

00:47:30.700 that's debatable and the fifth largest natural gas united states natural gas plays are starting

00:47:35.920 to decline let me give you something from my old days of gas buddy not only have they produced a

00:47:40.440 lot a lot of the wells are kind of old and they're going to need to tap into something like canada's

00:47:45.000 ability to make their lng work to save the rest of europe as we're seeing today but if we have

00:47:49.860 people going around with no mind no thought uh who are captured strictly by the uh by the woke

00:47:56.880 green narrative that says all canada bad we can't live on fossil fuels while they sit back and drive

00:48:03.080 away in their limousines and are on their jets as they go to the wef or they wear their polyester

00:48:07.540 or they wear their plastic made glasses or whatever the case may be it seems to me that

00:48:12.280 it's all surreal it does not what we're seeing out there being advocated and espoused by the

00:48:18.780 leadership of this country is complete abandonment and disconnection from reality and i'm not saying

00:48:23.720 that's because they're uh they're evil people i just think they're extraordinarily incompetent

00:48:28.820 and they've been led by the nose by a handful of fanatics who have no business being in this 1.00

00:48:32.420 country maybe we should get people like steven guibo and other marxists to continue dangling

00:48:36.720 from, you know, from CN Tower or maybe throw up pieces on top of the roof of the former premier 0.59

00:48:43.040 of Alberta. So when we talk about affordable energy, we're not talking about solar. We're

00:48:50.000 not talking about wind. We're talking about natural gas, obviously, because you've mentioned

00:48:54.380 it several times since we've been having this conversation and probably nuclear. Am I correct?

00:48:59.580 That's right. And, you know, nuclear is not something that we can take for granted. I mean,

00:49:03.660 I came from a riding in Pickering where we had the first commercial nuclear reactors.

00:49:09.760 I always like to keep this thing.

00:49:10.960 It's around here.

00:49:12.540 The first nuclear hydro hydro nuclear plant built in 1965, long before it was trendy.

00:49:17.460 Our grandparents had this idea that, hey, we don't have the hydrology that Quebec does.

00:49:21.840 Water can come down a certain surface and you can collect that and make hydro dams.

00:49:26.600 We don't have the natural gas or oil that they have might have in the United States or Western Canada.

00:49:31.500 But we have new technology.

00:49:33.660 it's called nuclear and we should use that and not only was it important for Ontario

00:49:38.680 it made Ontario one of the most competitive most attractive jurisdictions for the past 50 years in

00:49:44.400 which to invest and they sure as hell did the auto manufacturing the steel manufacturing in this

00:49:49.480 province allowed it to move ahead so yeah nuclear is always going to be part of that and as much as

00:49:55.320 the environmentalists of a previous generation said it was bad the reality is that that can only

00:49:59.940 get us so far you can build nuclear reactors it's how you get them from the power from those

00:50:04.360 reactors to the home to where you need it and that takes a lot of energy that takes a lot of mining

00:50:08.840 and that takes a lot of fossil fuels and so anybody who thinks this is going away it's going

00:50:13.080 to disappear is kidding themselves our children and their children will be using fossil fuels

00:50:18.620 responsibly as we're doing here in Canada which makes our argument about saying there's no 0.97

00:50:22.740 business case so stupid because the rest of the world knows the great things that we're doing 0.76

00:50:26.220 on remediation uh on things like uh um you know uh sequestration as we saw the boundary dam plant 0.99

00:50:33.500 in in saskatchewan we have a you know a a diverse mix of energy in this country which is the envy

00:50:41.640 of the world and we have utilized our best to turn an inhospitable place in the world to live

00:50:47.100 into one of the most successful not just technologically but we've built on the great

00:50:51.780 things we have as resources and so you know i'm not one of those who believes you won't have new

00:50:56.620 renewables but when it takes wind to make a turbine which has to be made with plastics and

00:51:02.060 resins and polymers by fossil fuels or you have solar panels which are made in china produced by

00:51:07.980 coal generation um you know those are great wonderful things but if there's no sun uh and

00:51:13.680 there's no wind you're sol and you do need reliable you need uh baseload uh you do need

00:51:21.200 the ability to dispatch that energy quickly and there's only a few ways in which we can do that

00:51:25.620 so anybody who's trying to say electrification 80 by 2050 apart from the two and a half three

00:51:31.320 trillion dollars of which the country hasn't got and to use a vernacular that my father used we

00:51:36.920 haven't got a window to we haven't got a pot to piss it or window throw it out of uh you don't

00:51:41.260 You have two and a half trillion dollars. 0.87

00:51:43.040 So, you know, give your little heads a shake.

00:51:45.100 You've ran up the tab in the country.

00:51:47.680 The country can no longer afford these trendy, trite little ideas on how we're going to be able to make this transition.

00:51:54.700 There's no transition.

00:51:56.020 And it's my-

00:51:56.620 Why?

00:51:57.340 Yeah, Sam.

00:51:58.020 The only transition we ever seen in energy was going from whale oil to actual oil. 0.71

00:52:02.360 Why do we see so many of these ridiculous windmills that are such eyesores?

00:52:07.860 I mean, I was driving down TransCanada through Saskatchewan. 0.51

00:52:10.800 And I'm going to say it was about a year ago.

00:52:12.620 And I could not believe on Canada's premier highway that we are looking at dozens and dozens and dozens of these monstrosities that after 10 years just completely and totally rot and leave their parts sitting there.

00:52:29.320 I mean, they're huge and they're noisy and they kill wildlife.

00:52:33.040 I mean, how much of the actual power grid is connected to these things?

00:52:37.160 Do you have any idea?

00:52:38.180 Yeah, well, in my province of Ontario, it's no more than 15%. Alberta can be as high as 20% on a windy day. But when you truly need it, they're not there and they freeze. As we saw in Texas a few years ago, people die. Look, I'm not out there to say these things are bad or good. I'm just simply saying, as a society, and that's a problem for some people because they don't want to talk about society. They want to have that control.

00:53:00.700 as a society we need to have that kind of flexibility in our energy menu to be able to say

00:53:06.660 is it deliverable when needed and when not needed can we give it away how are they paid simple in my

00:53:12.520 province of ontario the dummies here yeah in 2009 brought the green energy act under dalton mcginty

00:53:17.440 and what it did is it gave 80 cents a kilowatt hour for anybody who brought in uh you know

00:53:23.200 windmills versus and you had to pay that versus the usual you know mainstream stuff which we had

00:53:28.860 from nuclear and other forms which were more like 15 10 cents so we were paying this massive premium

00:53:35.040 and of course we we have this we have this problem they have access to the market and even we don't

00:53:40.260 need them you still have to pay them when they produce when those little whirly birds go around

00:53:44.620 twirling and creating energy you have to pay them they're you know 40 to 80 cents a kilowatt hour

00:53:50.440 and when we have a spillage we have too much energy which often happens we give it to michigan

00:53:56.720 and we give it to Quebec for pennies, if lucky.

00:53:59.560 We actually sometimes actually pay them

00:54:01.200 to take the surplus power off the grid.

00:54:04.220 This is madness.

00:54:05.980 It's insanity.

00:54:07.020 And by the way, I'm in the province of Ontario.

00:54:09.180 We pay $11 billion a year.

00:54:12.600 So consumers don't have to pay 30 cents a kilowatt hour,

00:54:15.320 which is the actual going rate during the week

00:54:18.300 when there is a heavy load from Monday to Friday

00:54:20.620 from 7 a.m. until 7 p.m.

00:54:22.580 That's another thing that never gets mentioned in the media

00:54:24.700 because they don't like to talk about it

00:54:25.940 because they're paid not to talk about it or whatever reason.

00:54:28.800 Maybe it's just fundamental ignorance, but that's okay, Shadow.

00:54:32.260 I have 60,000 people on Twitter.

00:54:34.260 I have 60,000 people, Canadians for Affordable Energy.

00:54:36.980 We can get our point across.

00:54:38.280 As you and I are doing right now, we'll go right around them.

00:54:41.480 How do we find you on social media?

00:54:44.160 Where do we find Canadians for Affordable Energy, Dan?

00:54:47.080 Well, president at affordableenergy.ca is my email.

00:54:51.260 Website is affordableenergy.ca, and I've just done a bunch of op-eds here.

00:54:55.340 some of the western standards some in true north um there's no point trying to go in some of the

00:55:00.360 bigger uh papers and organizations and beg them to to see the obvious so that's the way in which

00:55:06.120 you can find some of the work that i'm doing it's very interactive i do respond to emails

00:55:09.940 um i uh look from time to time on twitter i have a lot of fun on twitter i find it's a great place

00:55:15.660 to let my hair down and of course given now that it's uh no longer controlled by a handful of

00:55:21.020 fanatics looking to curb people's views.

00:55:26.840 GasPriceWizard or at GasPriceWizard is my handle.

00:55:30.780 Thank you very much.

00:55:32.540 Thank you for joining the show tonight.

00:55:34.200 It's been too long and I would love to have you back at some point soon.

00:55:37.940 Thank you again.

00:55:38.740 Let's do it again, Shadow.

00:55:39.680 There's lots to talk about.

00:55:40.900 All right, brother.

00:55:41.540 Thank you.

00:55:41.900 There's Dan McTeague,

00:55:43.020 the president of Canadians for affordable energy.

00:55:48.220 Find them on social media.

00:55:49.320 You can find him on, well, I guess Western Standard, as he just pointed out, and True

00:55:53.920 North.

00:55:54.260 I'd like to thank Dan for coming on tonight.

00:55:56.640 Speaking of energy, speaking of the carbon tax, speaking of fairness, Danielle Smith

00:56:07.800 had a press conference this morning in Alberta, and here's what she had to say.

00:56:12.720 October, and here in Alberta, the nights are below zero.

00:56:16.620 There's snow up on the mountains, and parents are preparing to zip jackets over their kids' Halloween costumes.

00:56:22.380 In just a few weeks, winter will be upon us.

00:56:25.440 And Alberta winters are no joke.

00:56:27.400 In this province, winter means long nights and freezing temperatures for weeks at a time.

00:56:32.420 I'm sure we all remember the polar vortex that swept through our province this past January,

00:56:38.340 when daily highs remained around minus 30 degrees and lows were around minus 40 degrees,

00:56:43.740 with the wind chill dropping temperatures closer to minus 50.

00:56:48.180 Those temperatures are devastatingly and dangerously cold.

00:56:52.720 Home heating is not optional, and in Alberta, that means we rely on natural gas

00:56:57.020 not just to keep us warm, but to keep us safe.

00:57:00.120 Winter is coming again, and that means that Alberta families will again

00:57:03.680 feel the sting of the federal carbon tax as they heat their homes with natural gas.

00:57:08.640 Here in Alberta, we don't tend to think that more taxes are the solution for anything.

00:57:13.280 let alone a tax on all the things our citizens need to live and thrive in this cold climate.

00:57:19.660 Given the cost of living challenges many households are facing,

00:57:23.440 piling more financial burden onto Canadians is simply cruel and punitive.

00:57:28.140 Until recently, the punishment from Ottawa was shared equally across the country.

00:57:32.180 At the very least, that equal footing gave Canadians a unified front to push back on the federal government.

00:57:38.040 A sense, maybe, that we were all in it together.

00:57:40.120 But a year ago, almost to the day, Ottawa announced it was exempting heating oil from the federal carbon tax for three years.

00:57:47.900 Now, that's great for the people of Atlantic Canada and Quebec, who have a higher proportion of their citizens who use heating oil.

00:57:54.200 But let's be clear, most Albertans don't resent them for it either.

00:57:58.640 Unfortunately, this exemption applies to practically no one outside of eastern Canada.

00:58:04.540 Added to that, the carbon tax on natural gas is more than triple the cost of natural gas itself.

00:58:11.820 The carbon tax rate is about four cents a gigajoule, and gas is selling for $1.25 a gigajoule.

00:58:17.840 Now, we can debate why Ottawa made this decision.

00:58:20.700 We may even have a few theories.

00:58:22.220 But whatever their reasons, the outcome is blatantly unfair for people in Alberta and other parts of Canada

00:58:28.720 who use natural gas and other fuels to stay warm in the winter.

00:58:33.680 From where we're sitting, it looks an awful lot like one more attempt to divide our country,

00:58:38.420 to reward one region and punish another.

00:58:41.500 And we're not going to sit back and let this unfair carve out disadvantaged Albertans for another winter.

00:58:45.720 And so I'm pleased to announce that this morning,

00:58:48.440 Alberta filed an application for a judicial review of the exemption in the federal court.

00:58:53.280 We're asking the court to declare the exemption both unconstitutional and unlawful.

00:58:58.720 lawful. We hope that this will force Ottawa to recognize the burden the carbon tax places on

00:59:04.260 Canadians and eliminate the tax altogether. When is Justin Trudeau just going to wave

00:59:13.100 a white flag? It's time. It's time. Here's the leader of the Bloc Quebecois today in a global

00:59:21.840 piece. Croix leader Yves-Francois Blanchet says he will begin talks with other parties to bring

00:59:27.180 down the government after the Liberals failed to meet his party's deadline to support two key

00:59:31.960 bills. We said five weeks ago that if we were not to receive that, if four million of Canadians

00:59:40.320 between 65 and 74 years old were not to receive what we asked, if producers under supply management

00:59:47.760 regime were not to get what we asked, we were to start discussing with opposition parties in order

00:59:56.300 to have this government fall.

01:00:00.360 Blanchet said the deadline last month,

01:00:02.380 putting the Liberals on notice that they must adopt a pair of bills

01:00:05.580 or face a possible election.

01:00:08.320 The first bill aims to safeguard supply management

01:00:10.780 and trade negotiations.

01:00:12.540 The other raises old-age security payments for seniors.

01:00:15.920 Despite the deadline passing, Blanchet says

01:00:18.160 if the Liberals begin negotiations with his party in the days ahead,

01:00:21.660 his party will continue to support the minority government.

01:00:25.340 If they give you what you ask for, even if it's after this date, does that mean they regain your support?

01:00:31.620 Let's say that if they give us exactly all we have asked for before they fall,

01:00:38.200 because if there's a vote tomorrow, they might fall tomorrow,

01:00:41.460 we will look into it and we will be coherent with all what we have said so far.

01:00:46.500 We want precisely what is in Bill 3, C-319, and in Bill C-282.

01:00:55.580 Bring that to us, and we'll discuss it.

01:00:57.840 In the meantime, they are seriously in danger to fall.

01:01:05.320 Well, okay, so there's a lot of variables in play there.

01:01:08.680 First of all, like I said earlier in the show, the government is paralyzed

01:01:12.380 because they won't give the unredacted documents

01:01:16.280 from the $400 million green slush fund to the RCMP.

01:01:20.200 And so the other minority, or sorry,

01:01:21.640 all of the opposition parties in the House of Commons

01:01:24.600 voted a couple of weeks ago,

01:01:25.980 and it was given the high sign by the Speaker of the House

01:01:29.420 that, all right, if the government does not want

01:01:32.640 to give up these documents,

01:01:33.780 then we can not proceed further

01:01:36.940 with any government business until we get this result.

01:01:39.540 that was a point of order that's now almost three weeks old by the conservatives so if they can

01:01:45.560 somehow manage to remove that piece then they can get on with government business and then

01:01:52.840 a confidence vote can come the bloc earlier today said they won't be the ones initiating it because

01:02:00.560 they haven't got enough opposition days left so it would have to be the conservatives so what's

01:02:07.660 scenario there let's say the conservatives if this whole government paralyzation is over with

01:02:14.480 by next week decides to introduce a non-confidence vote next week the bloc will vote with them

01:02:23.640 but what about the NDP and what about those dissident liberal backbench MPs what are they

01:02:31.660 going to do? I was hoping this was going to be all over with by now, but I don't think so. I

01:02:42.640 believe the earliest we're going to see an election in this country is next year, even with all of the

01:02:48.520 abominable behavior by the liberals, the foreign interference, the scandals, one after the next.

01:02:54.180 This story comes from TNC.news. Kevin Vong, journalist, and this was yesterday, named five

01:03:01.680 officials allegedly involved in foreign influence scheme. Now, we didn't have the responses from

01:03:09.800 the accused MPs or parliamentarians until today. So let's do this story. A group comprising an

01:03:17.760 independent MP, an investigative journalist, and senior bureaucrats named four politicians and

01:03:23.320 one government advisor allegedly involved in a China-led scheme to interfere in Canadian

01:03:28.940 democracy. Although the Trudeau government continues to withhold the list of elected

01:03:34.220 officials named in a controversial foreign interference report, and that's why

01:03:38.080 Parliament is paralyzed right now, investigative journalist, sorry, that's not why, it's about the

01:03:43.540 slush fund, I'm sorry, investigative journalist Sam Cooper, there's so many scandals, claims to

01:03:50.080 have uncovered several names of witting or unwitting officials working in favor of China

01:03:54.940 from confidential whistleblowers. Two of those named by Cooper have denied the allegations.

01:04:00.020 Though liberal international trade minister Mary Ng did not respond to True North's request for

01:04:05.120 comment, she denied the allegations on X. She says, it's unfortunate that Mr. Vong, who's by

01:04:12.080 the way a former liberal MP, now sits as an independent, recently gave Sam Cooper another

01:04:17.720 platform to make insinuations about me, which I categorically reject, she said.

01:04:23.320 Foreign interference is a serious matter of national security.

01:04:26.460 And like all my cabinet colleagues, I've been thoroughly screened by the top security

01:04:30.500 experts in Canada.

01:04:32.860 She took shots at Cooper's credibility, saying his conspiracy theories, here we go again,

01:04:38.600 have been pushed from the main pages of global news to the only place that will publish them

01:04:43.780 on his own website.

01:04:48.320 It's not okay for him to continue fueling this climate of suspicion against me, Ng said on X.

01:04:54.700 Another individual named by Cooper, a Trudeau-appointed liberal senator, Yun Pao Wu,

01:04:59.800 questioned whether Cooper's evidence in the press conference concluded foreign interference on his part at all.

01:05:05.480 He said, the press conference confirms my long-standing concern about the role of second-rate journalists.

01:05:11.240 So here we go again, insulting the journalists now.

01:05:13.580 phony experts opportunistic politicians and rogue officials in distracting canadians

01:05:19.280 from serious foreign interference issues and whipping up a frenzy that feeds on disinformation

01:05:24.520 partisanship and bigotry oh that is such such a liberal party answer such a woke answer cooper

01:05:33.140 also named the liberal mp for stevenson richmond east parm baines saying he was benefiting from

01:05:39.060 the prc's alleged foreign interference gu ding a journalist and advisor to david eb the premier

01:05:46.300 of bc and former conservative senator victor oh is being involved in foreign interference neither

01:05:52.100 baines ding nor oh i'm sorry that just sounded funny to me ding oh responded to true north's

01:06:01.340 requests for comment unbelievable oh yeah and then there's a thing about digital id

01:06:08.660 Michelle Rempel-Garner, he's the conservative MP for Calgary Nose Hill, released this video today.

01:06:15.420 That's just broken. It's just been posted by BlackBlock's reporter.

01:06:19.060 And the headline reads, Feds Propose National Digital ID.

01:06:26.460 So I'm just going to read the first couple paragraphs of this article so that you can get a sense of what we're dealing with here.

01:06:32.220 Federal regulators yesterday said that they are, quote, working to establish digital credentials for the public without parliamentary go-ahead.

01:06:44.780 MPs have repeatedly rejected introduction of any national electronic digital ID systems as expensive and risky.

01:06:53.660 And this is a quote from the article.

01:06:54.980 With more businesses conducted online, the Government of Canada and interested partners need a common set of capabilities to enable people to issue, hold, and present these types of credentials to make trusted claims about themselves in a way that are user-friendly, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, said a notice to contractors by Shared Services Canada, the Federal ID Department.

01:07:18.720 Any new system, and here's the kicker, any new system should allow regulators to revoke credentials, said the notice on the common set of capabilities for issuing and verifying digital credentials for the government of Canada.

01:07:37.400 It did not elaborate.

01:07:39.560 The notice did not explain if enrollment would be mandatory.

01:07:45.100 So, what's happening here?

01:07:47.020 And again, this is in Black Locks Reporter. I'm reading right out of an article, like this is a, this is a journalistic outlet that reports here on the Hill. I'm not making this up. This is right here. It's just breaking. So what's happening here is that in spite of, you know, legislators saying, no, we can't do this. We can't do this.

01:08:05.220 The government of Canada, the Liberal government, is quietly going around talking about building a digital ID that's, quote, that would, quote, allow regulators to revoke credentials and did not explain if the enrolment would be mandatory.

01:08:21.160 That's what we're dealing with with Justin Trudeau.

01:08:23.120 You know, it's these hidden agendas where he's going out and saying, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not going to do these things.

01:08:28.180 And then through the back door, through these, like, sneaky little contract things, he's saying what his actual agenda is.

01:08:35.040 guys are probably asking at this point, well what are you doing? What's the Conservative Party of

01:08:38.640 Canada doing to stop this? Of course we are going to oppose this, of course we're opposing it.

01:08:43.360 I can give you guys many examples of how we've been fighting back on this. So for example,

01:08:48.640 Liberal Bill C-63, their massive censorship bill, I tabled an opposing bill which would keep

01:08:59.840 Canadians safe online, but quote, expressly prohibit the use of a digital ID. It's written

01:09:04.720 right into my bill to show that principle in law that we wouldn't do this. And I want to draw your

01:09:10.120 attention to how hard Conservative leader Pierre Polyab has been working to oppose this issue as

01:09:16.400 well too. So this goes all the way back to 2022. Here's Pierre Polyab on his Twitter feed saying,

01:09:23.300 government attempts to impose digital IDs and other intrusive tracking and surveillance message

01:09:28.360 are an attack on our freedom i will end them so this is over two years ago now he's got he's had

01:09:34.040 numerous public statements to this effect since then and then today in light of reports this

01:09:39.320 report again this is not like you're not going to find this report on cbc of course you're not

01:09:43.280 mr polyev has in fact tweeted that um he's tweeted about the story and he says common

01:09:49.980 sense conservatives will ban mandatory digital ids full stop so he's got a link to his petition on

01:09:56.420 his Twitter page. And of course, conservatives are fighting this. Why not just ban digital IDs

01:10:04.140 altogether? And here's why I say that. Because if you go ahead and ban or ban mandatory digital IDs

01:10:17.020 and leave us a choice, I think that's fine. But what happens when you as a government,

01:10:23.820 Pierre Polyev get defeated for six, eight years down the road. You know that the Marxists,

01:10:30.580 the globalists are going to reinstitute that. They're going to just say, all right, so

01:10:36.280 we're bringing this in mandatory now. Just get rid of it altogether and make a new law that says

01:10:43.440 you can never introduce mandatory digital IDs in Canada ever. I'm not sure if you can do that

01:10:50.340 without putting it in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms,

01:10:53.500 the Constitution, which would mean you'd have to open the Constitution again.

01:10:57.560 I want to see Pierre Polyev at least make the attempt to reopen the Constitution.

01:11:04.520 It's so important.

01:11:05.860 There's so many amendments that need to be made.

01:11:08.640 Last night in the Saskatchewan election, good news, the Saskatchewan party wins.

01:11:13.560 They won the majority of votes there, 232,760 to 173,285 for the NDP.

01:11:22.480 That's not what matters.

01:11:23.640 What matters is the seat count, and the seat count is 35 seats for the Saskatchewan party,

01:11:30.260 and the Marxists got 26.

01:11:32.120 So once again, we have a common sense majority government in Saskatchewan.

01:11:37.900 And finally tonight, because you know they've been calling Donald Trump a Nazi,

01:11:43.560 down there in the United States, the Kamala Harris campaign anyway, and all of her minions

01:11:48.700 and all of the followers on social media. So Donald Trump held a rally. I believe this was

01:11:54.920 in Atlanta, if I'm not mistaken. It was earlier today, or maybe it was last night. He's everywhere.

01:12:00.580 Even though he said he was slowing down, he's everywhere. And this is what he said to that.

01:12:04.760 Now doing something much worse than what she was talking about.

01:12:11.780 The newest line from Kamala and her campaign is that everyone who isn't voting for her is a Nazi.

01:12:18.860 We're Nazis.

01:12:22.500 You know, years ago, my father had a great father.

01:12:25.180 He's a tough guy.

01:12:26.340 He used to always say, never use the word Nazi.

01:12:30.660 Never use that word.

01:12:31.880 And it's a never use the word Hitler.

01:12:34.260 don't use that word it's like i didn't even know why don't use that word and then i understood it

01:12:39.700 and yet they use that word freely both words they use it he's hitler and then they say he's a nazi

01:12:47.300 i'm not a nazi i'm the opposite of a nazi i don't know 0.99

01:12:52.260 this whole thing is so stupid uh trump also mentioned dude so were you trying to get me shot 0.99

01:13:00.920 again. So there's that. We haven't de-escalated that far in Canada yet, but I would imagine during 1.00

01:13:12.080 the next election campaign, something like that is bound to happen. And it's not going to happen

01:13:16.480 from the common sense side, that's for sure. The extension is coming up in just a second

01:13:20.520 on shadowdavis.com. Now, I want to take this opportunity to let all of you, all access members

01:13:25.760 know that, yes, we have been having some problems in the back end of the website for whatever

01:13:32.640 reason. So I was up with my website provider until 3.30 a.m. this morning, addressing these

01:13:39.600 problems, trying to fix them. And I did get a little bit of help after four hours on the phone.

01:13:45.340 It was like being on the phone with your bank. Oh, can I transfer you to here? Can I transfer

01:13:49.100 you to there? And you got to listen to that terrible hold music between the transfers.

01:13:52.420 and they finally pick up, and they don't really speak English all that well,

01:13:55.960 so it's very difficult to understand.

01:13:57.480 You have to strain to understand what they're saying.

01:14:00.600 And then they'll ask you a technical question you have absolutely no idea how to answer

01:14:06.540 because you're not a tech.

01:14:10.980 But I did spend four hours with them last night.

01:14:14.660 We did get some things done, and I'm going to do the same thing again tonight

01:14:18.320 because i'm just look at i just got a message here from one of our site members audrey i think

01:14:25.560 audrey i'm sorry she says is there a problem with the website i'm paid annual uh subscriber and

01:14:31.780 prompted to resubscribe all day today i don't know about that when i fixed other ones last night and

01:14:37.940 now this new one shows up so maybe to to fix the one thing they had to screw up the other thing

01:14:43.340 so I am going to fix that again tonight. I will be on the phone with them again tonight until I get

01:14:50.060 everything straightened away. And the reason for that is because I value you guys. I want you to

01:14:57.120 see the extra car. I don't want to be sitting here alone for a half hour or an hour with extra

01:15:01.740 content in the, in the extension on the website and nobody watching it. That would suck. It would

01:15:07.000 be lonely and a waste of time so i am definitely trying to get that fixed i'm doing as much as i

01:15:15.060 can and i certainly hope you will give me a couple of days leeway uh to to let me straighten this

01:15:20.920 thing out before you start making your cancellations because that's no good for me or this

01:15:25.940 show the more people cancel the less chance i have of continuing this show moving forward i would

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01:16:21.100 I appreciate you all. I will catch you tomorrow night, eight o'clock for another Shadow at Night

01:16:25.060 live stream on social media the extension begins now here's something very very interesting i was

01:16:30.700 sent just about 15 minutes before the show started tonight it's called the devil gives an after

01:16:36.000 dinner speech i have not seen this yet not the whole thing i watched the first couple of minutes

01:16:41.640 and i thought oh this would be really cool to play in the extension so we're going to do that

01:16:45.960 it's about 15 minutes long also about this time last year we started hearing rumblings that janet

01:16:52.080 Ozbart the documentarian was missing and that she was possibly dead Janet Ozbart is the Dutch

01:17:00.860 filmmaker who created the series the fall of the cabal I'm not sure if you guys ever saw that if

01:17:05.520 not you should you can really only get it on bit shoot or maybe rumble at this stage of the game

01:17:10.780 we're going to play part one of that on the extension tonight so hopefully all of you all

01:17:18.480 access members can get in and we'll see you there in two minutes time. Have a great night.

01:17:48.480 Thank you.

01:18:18.480 Thank you.

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The Shadoe Davis Show - October 30, 2024

Oct. 29th： Guest Dan McTeague President of Canadians for Affordable Energy

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