00:13:44.760that at least a dozen conservative MPs,
00:13:47.380five actually, have written to his office
00:13:49.900and when he was asked by reporters the other day who they were, name names. I don't know.
00:13:58.000You're going to have to check with my office, but there's at least a dozen of them there.
00:14:02.120Five. And they want money for their communities to build housing. If that's the way it is,0.96
00:14:07.800I'm sure they're thinking, then I guess that's what we have to do for now. Makes sense. Could
00:14:14.300be that they're working along nonpartisan lines. We don't see too much of that these days, but it
00:14:18.800could be who knows or it could be that they were working behind polyev's back who knows
00:14:23.760but there's no need to make it a big deal because it's not when we know the liberal cabinet the
00:14:31.620government is falling apart and the bloc québécois is threatening a non-confidence vote anytime and
00:14:38.060this is the story that ctv wants to put out there the canadian press has reviewed five letters five
00:14:44.340Oh, it's not a dozen. It's five sent between September last year and February of this year by Dan Albus, Michael Cooper, Adam Chambers, Leanne Rood and Rob Moore.
00:14:54.040The MPs represent writings. And how is this a story, my friends?
00:15:00.340Exactly how is this a story? You know, CTV was lambasted in committee a couple of weeks ago.
00:15:07.780Here's a few seconds. The producers, the editors and the journalists all have the same liberal bias.
00:15:13.560you have no way to determine that quick quick response mr great please our our our team do not
00:15:19.320have a liberal bias okay thank you mr sheer uh hear the laughter in the background let's let's
00:15:26.680listen again do not have a liberal bias okay thank you mr sheer uh hey what is justin trudeau really
00:15:36.760like i mean we think we know what he's like we think he's arrogant we think he's a man child
00:15:44.300we think he's narcissistic we think all of these things and that's why he won't call an election
00:15:49.900because he or step down because he feels that he is the only one the chosen one0.59
00:15:55.240to lead us to the promised land and transform canada into his marxist
00:16:00.160playground. Well, Selena Cesar Chavez was an MP in his caucus a few years ago. Remember,
00:16:10.820she unceremoniously left the same day, I believe, as Jody Wilson-Raybould. She was interviewed by
00:16:17.500Dr. Jordan Peterson, and this was put up on YouTube and all the other platforms yesterday,
00:16:23.400and I took some clips out of it. And here's some interesting stuff.
00:16:27.880principal secretaries, Jerry Butts, Katie Telford, that were primarily running the show.
00:16:34.900And I don't think I'm the only one that would say this. I would think that, you know, Bill
00:16:39.080Morneau left, said the same thing. Others have left and said the same thing. So don't, this is
00:16:44.420not a Selena-ized perspective. This is something that I witnessed and I think is actually true.
00:16:50.120When it comes to, you know, after the incident with Jody Wilson-Raybould, when Jerry Butts
00:16:57.100stepped down. I thought he was the only adult in the room. And when he stepped down, it became
00:17:02.780very apparent that things were going to get a lot worse before it got a lot better. And then I think
00:17:08.240towards the end, towards especially March of 2019, I just decided that I was not going to let
00:17:19.980the actions of one person dictate how I left government. And I was not going to let Justin
00:17:30.540Trudeau continue to be presenting himself as this sunny ways, great politician when I knew that he
00:17:43.340was the emperor with no clothes on. So what did you do about that? Like you had some famous blowups
00:17:50.720as you departed from the political scene. Yes. Yeah. So it didn't start with us though. I want
00:17:56.380to be very clear. Leona Alislev left way before. Decorated military person who decided to leave
00:18:03.680and cross the floor to the conservatives really early in our mandate because she was so disenfranchised
00:18:09.060with uh with the prime ministers other people left uh after we left eva nasef also left because
00:18:15.780of the bullying that she received within the party so there was there was a few people so it's not
00:18:20.740just a three uh by the time jane philpot decorated medical professional left it we we were way beyond
00:18:28.980threes at that point so yes yes yeah so there there were there were quite a few and i would say
00:18:36.980for me, I didn't have to have a public blow up with the prime minister. When I told him that I
00:18:43.060was leaving in early March of 2019, I was very clear for all of the reasons that we discussed
00:18:49.840before, feeling tokenized, not getting the support of the prime minister, just being very much
00:18:56.120marginalized within a liberal, which is making, it makes me so, it's so upsetting because it's one
00:19:05.280thing to say you know you did some missteps but i felt duped by a party that i really thought
00:19:11.960understood what it meant to be center understood what it was what it meant to have equity and
00:19:18.800justice what it what it meant to have those things and to be disenfranchised by them because i wanted
00:19:24.780more for the people that i serve was was uh so what she's saying here is that she's actually
00:19:33.480woke equity equity right she is really woke she believes in all of these principles but justin
00:19:39.440trudeau does not that's what she's really saying here he virtue signals he's a virtue signaler he's
00:19:47.420a liar was disenfranchising for me yes it was yeah that is the word thank you very much yeah
00:19:53.580that is actually the word betrayal and so i called the prime minister and i said look i'm not running
00:20:00.680again uh i i i didn't even have to give him recess i'm not running again um it's four years i'm not
00:20:07.320getting a pension i'm not getting anything i just don't want to do this uh he first he said well
00:20:15.020that was the same day that jody wilson raybolt had stepped down he couldn't have he put he couldn't
00:20:20.480have two women of color leave at the same day that's what he told you really dude that's not
00:20:27.400my problem that was his first response that's not all he said that was the first thing he said he
00:20:33.600was not happy with that he said oh my god oh my god selena i can't believe that you're talking
00:20:43.480about my privilege i was like what what he said you know he started talking about the fact that
00:20:51.960Like he has, you know, had had death threats too and that.
00:20:57.460And in my mind, I'm going, but you have an RCMP detail.
00:21:00.420When me and my kids had death threats, I didn't have anybody, right?
00:21:04.520Like, so there's a lot of stuff missing from this story, Jordan, that you're not, I'm not putting out.
00:21:11.320But he went on and on and how I needed to appreciate him because he came to the riding during the by-election and how I should be, you know, grateful to him.
00:21:21.160and i just was like oh hell no and i said a few choice words to him after that um because i i
00:21:32.600lost it at that point and uh yeah what did you say that the point of me
00:21:39.160what did you say oh i said well you can tone it down what what were you conveying put it that way
00:21:46.840I was conveying that I wanted him to know who did he think he was speaking to.
00:26:54.360or a military tribunal? First of all, I don't buy into the premise of what you're saying, Jake,
00:26:58.660because I just, on things that I know that he said, on things that I know that he said,
00:27:03.960you're imputing things, you're taking words out of context. It's not like these are conservative.
00:27:08.460Absolutely, that's my argument. These are not conservative Republicans. These are conservative
00:27:11.620Republicans who are concerned about Donald Trump. All of these people, Jake, they came into office
00:27:17.980thinking that they could control Donald Trump, that when he said he wanted peace in the world.
00:27:22.100thought he could control yes he did and when he found out really when he found out that he couldn't
00:27:27.060they all turned on donald trump and a lot of them got fired and we're running and we're trying to
00:27:32.220staff the government with people who are going to govern according to principles of peace and
00:27:36.700prosperity let me ask you they're pissed off about it that's that's good tv i'll tell you that right
00:27:45.360now we could use more of that in canada i wish we had more i would do it i absolutely would do it
00:27:51.740Of course, I would be coming from the common sense angle and I wouldn't be saying, listen, your president, your candidate said that we should send the military after Americans or Canadians.
00:28:03.620You're conflating two different sentences from two different interviews or two different rallies and combining them, kind of like what CTV did.
00:28:12.500So how bad is the Chinese interference and how far back does it go in terms of this round of it?
00:28:20.240It's been going on for 15 or 20 years, at least, that we've known of, or CSIS has known of.
00:28:25.140As a matter of fact, if you look up Chinese interference, these days your first four or five Google pages are going to be filled with what's happened in the last year and a half in Canada.
00:28:34.320But if you go further than that, if you dig deeper than that, page 6, 7, 12, 14, whatever, you'll find stories that go back to 2007, 2008, even 2003 or 2004, Chinese interference.
00:28:46.440And then you talk about liberals who've been involved with China in some intimate or educational way.
00:28:54.620And it goes back to the late 1960s and the early 1970s.
00:28:59.740A lot of specifically liberal politicians have very, very deep ties to communist China.
00:29:08.240I want to play a video for you guys with some footage never before seen that was found by
00:29:15.800Vesper on X. It's very interesting. Let's watch.
00:29:21.160Never been any information given to me on the funding of federal candidates by China.0.64
00:29:28.660canada's spy agency is warning that china's attempts to manipulate the media are becoming
00:29:38.440the new normal the canadian security intelligence service raised that issue in a meeting with prime
00:29:44.080minister trudeau earlier this year and there are renewed calls now for a much tougher approach
00:29:49.940to foreign interference trudeau did not address reporting by global news that sources say a
00:29:55.620clandestine election interference network was covertly funded by Chinese state entities in the
00:30:01.2202019 federal election and that the prime minister was briefed in 2022 by Canadian intelligence
00:30:07.240officials on these stunning allegations of political interference schemes. Canada's chief
00:30:12.620electoral officer says he's not aware of Beijing interfering beyond global news reports. I've not
00:30:18.540received any reports regarding specific instances of non-compliance with the legislation or specific
00:30:24.380specific instances of Chinese interference in the election.
00:30:36.540MLI senior fellow J. Michael Cole warns that Ottawa also needs to contend with the possibility
00:30:42.740of interference by Beijing. The Chinese regime has every reason to regard the upcoming elections0.94
00:30:49.440as an opportunity, and to engineer the election of a future government that is more to its liking.
00:30:55.660The Chinese Communist Party, or CCP, has a variety of tools at its disposal,
00:31:01.280honed by experience in other jurisdictions such as Taiwan.
00:31:04.860For example, it could escalate its economic warfare against Canada
00:31:08.880by targeting sectors of the economy and export-reliant parts of the country
00:31:13.780with the aim of alienating those ridings from the current government.
00:31:17.980I woke up to an explosive report in the Globe and Mail this morning,
00:31:21.320reporting that CSIS documents viewed by the newspaper
00:31:23.960revealed China's strategy to influence the 2021 election.
00:31:27.560Beijing wanted the Liberals to be elected, but only to a minority mandate.
00:31:31.720And according to the documents, China viewed the Conservatives as too harsh on China
00:31:35.760and used disinformation campaigns against them.
00:31:39.260Alleged Chinese government election interference is rattling Canadian politics.
00:31:43.240A string of media reports based on leaked intelligence
00:31:46.020reveals both the 2019 and 2021 elections were targeted.
00:31:50.360Senior government officials are adamant the integrity of those elections were not compromised.
00:31:55.040The allegations, though, are alarming.
00:31:56.740And my next guest says they're just the tip of the iceberg.
00:31:59.700Chuck Kwan is co-chair of the Toronto Association for Democracy in China.
00:32:07.360What can you tell us about how Beijing runs foreign interference operations in Canada?
00:32:11.180Well, it all started about 34 years ago, after Tiananmen Square massacre, when Beijing was eager to burnish its image internationally.
00:32:22.740And they have started setting up what I would call proxy organizations.
00:32:27.040And through these organizations and through their proxies, Beijing has been able to exert very soft influence in many ways, in many levels of our governments.
00:32:36.540Is that the primary focus, or do these operations primarily target Chinese Canadians?
00:32:40.540No, they are targeted to the Canadian society at large.
00:32:45.020How concerned are you about how the government hasn't done enough?
00:32:48.240Or do you believe the government hasn't done enough?
00:32:50.540We can go from the website and see who's who and who's meeting whom.
00:32:54.960And that includes a lot of Canadian politicians and government officials being wine and dine.
00:33:00.080So help me understand this, because the allegation right now, the headline story right now,
00:33:03.740certainly in the Globe and Mail, was that China wanted to help elect liberals to get a liberal minority government.
00:33:09.080and they wanted to defeat conservatives who they believed had policies that were unfavorable to China.
00:33:15.320In your experience on monitoring this, is it that starkly partisan?
00:33:18.840Is China, in your view, interested in electing liberals at the expense of conservatives?0.59
00:33:22.400They understand that perhaps from the proper days,
00:33:25.740the conservatives are a little bit tougher on them than the liberals would.
00:33:30.580And that's why in the last 10, 12 years, they have been pretty much putting the money on the liberals.0.87
00:33:36.100Certainly they are the beneficiary of the Chinese operation.
00:33:40.740Given the large number of accredited Chinese diplomats in Canada,
00:33:45.220we can assume Beijing has thoroughly studied potential vulnerabilities.
00:33:50.420Likewise, candidates who hew closer to Beijing's line
00:33:55.060might be promised greater Chinese investment in their ridings.
00:33:58.180Additionally, I want you to know that this is this guy here talking, Brian Lee Crowley.
00:34:03.060He is the director and founder of the Macdonald-Laurier Institute.
00:34:07.720And this goes back, as the big red arrow shows us there, to July of 2019.
00:34:58.560From there, sources say the money was distributed to members of a clandestine network.
00:35:03.140Intelligence says the network was comprised of at least 11 federal candidates, along with 13 campaign staffers.
00:35:09.460The Communist Party of China also enjoys near-total control of Chinese-language media in Canada.
00:35:15.720Adding to the rampant disinformation being circulated on social media apps,
00:35:19.800the regime has perfected the practice of discrediting politicians over many years in Taiwan and Hong Kong.
00:35:26.560And the CCP's content farms are known to spread dis and misinformation, cause confusion, and embattle a targeted government by forcing it to dedicate large amounts of resources to debunking false claims.
00:35:42.620Canada's spy agency is warning that China's attempts to manipulate the media are becoming the new normal.
00:35:49.760The Canadian Security Intelligence Service raised that issue in a meeting with Prime Minister Trudeau earlier this year.
00:35:56.100And there are renewed calls now for a much tougher approach to foreign interference.