00:07:00.000hey how you doing everybody welcome to shadow at night this is thursday september the 19th
00:07:15.0002024 and on the show tonight the very special maggie hope brawn of kickley canada she's got a
00:07:19.820whole bunch of things to go through with us tonight and i have to say i've seen her backstage
00:07:23.740and she's looking better than i've seen her over the last year and a half why because i think i
00:07:29.480think she took some time off she took some time off over the last month or so made a trip out east
00:07:36.760visited some atlantic beaches in the atlantic provinces took the family had a good time relaxed
00:07:42.700unwound and she's back at it and she's got a big huge presentation for us tonight i'm looking
00:07:48.200forward to seeing also let me tell you a couple of things about what is going on in the next couple
00:07:54.040of days. First thing here, the Million Person March is happening all across the country tomorrow,
00:08:00.660starting at various times, depending on the city or the town that you live in. And you can find out
00:08:05.300more at, what's the website here? HandsOffOurKids.ca. HandsOffOurKids.ca. Of course, this is all about
00:08:15.640SOGI 123 being installed in public schools across the country. It's about the sexual0.99
00:08:22.360curriculums that our kids are being exposed to kids as young as five and six years old depending
00:08:28.000on the teacher and there's all kinds of horror stories coming out about that we've covered on
00:08:31.940this show and i'm sure you've seen other places here are all the locations across the country
00:08:36.640you can take part in the million person march for kids tomorrow and again depending on what city or
00:08:42.000town you live in uh it's a different staggered start time you can find out all of the information
00:08:48.020Like I just said, handsoffourkids.ca, handsoffourkids.ca.
00:08:56.160Also, on Saturday, if you're in the Winnipeg metropolitan region, if you live in the Winnipeg area, and by the way, this is going all across the country, and Maggie's going to talk about this.
00:09:09.640I just alerted a friend of mine in Roblin, Manitoba, that this is coming her way very, very soon.
00:09:14.580There's a town, very acrimonious population in Roblin, which is a town of about 3,000 people very close to the Manitoba-Saskatchewan border.
00:09:24.640And there have been some questionable proposals by the town council, the municipal council there, that people in that town have questioned.
00:09:34.380And when the council doesn't listen to them, of course, especially in a smaller place like that, they're going to get very upset and stop these councillors in the street.
00:15:19.560I'm not going to tell any of you. Go ahead and tell
00:15:24.600your story. It's your story. It's not mine.
00:15:26.700Yeah, you know, I was there on the last day with people from all across this country, amazing people articulating well their reason for being there and watching the riot police just advance and advance and advance in front of our parliament, our Canadian parliament, where, you know,
00:15:49.820if there was ever a place for Canadians to converge and make their civic duty known and exercise civil disobedience, that was the place.
00:16:06.260And, you know, Canada is such a big country.
00:16:09.500So for something like that to happen is a miracle in itself.
00:16:13.940And it brought a lot of people together, as we know.
00:16:16.300And it dawned on me that it was historical and that they would never be able to justify what they were doing in removing the peaceful protesters from the streets.
00:16:34.560and you guys have all seen the video i'm sure by now those of you who are here watching the show
00:16:41.920tonight you've seen the video of the last couple of days of the freedom convoy and it was awful
00:16:48.820some of the things that were going on there the way the police were kettling the protesters if
00:16:54.360you can call them that i call them um i mean freedom fighters they're they're standing up
00:17:00.960of the rights of the entire population of this country and so you came face to face with a line
00:17:06.620of them yeah we we all did everyone that was there everyone that was watching I think we all
00:17:13.420knew what was what was happening and what it meant for our country and you know several of us
00:17:20.640probably had that moment where we decided we weren't going to move back any further
00:17:28.860and that's what it was for me you know i was looking at the west block they had us on o'connor
00:17:35.380and i just knew they couldn't justify this moving forward so were they were they actually
00:17:41.340physically pushing you back with their riot shields oh yeah oh yeah yeah anyway
00:17:47.520long story short um i decided not the reason i'm asking you this maggie is because i i'm looking
00:17:55.700at you right now I see that it still affects you emotionally just the way you're telling this story
00:18:01.000yeah you know I I've kind of um gone through some PTSD therapy I guess I'll say and I guess
00:18:12.180now I I try not to well my brain doesn't really want to remember the experience behind the line
00:18:20.360and ultimately there were a lot of great people there and I think it's important that some of us
00:18:31.040did not push not allow ourselves to be pushed back any further myself Jeremy Glass from
00:18:39.600Shelburne he knelt with me and we went through the line together and on the other side they were
00:18:46.900quite violent but the police officers from ottawa uh did say when they picked me off the line
00:18:54.340that the protesters won this and we proved we were peaceful and the truth will come out and
00:19:00.520i just think that that was kind of the birth of
00:19:04.840our network our movement it brought a lot of great people together and um i think moving forward
00:19:14.940we have a great opportunity and if we could just move forward from that conversation then I can
00:19:21.040get back into what I wanted to present because I do I do absolutely uh go into a different mode
00:19:28.760when I think about it well it's just that you said you know it all began in Ottawa and I went
00:19:32.860yeah I suppose we should go back and talk about that because that's the seed of it all right so
00:19:36.700uh yeah let's go ahead and and go through your presentation all the things that you've been
00:19:41.820doing, all the things that you have planned to do, and the things that you're doing now,
00:19:45.140which are quite important. Yeah, so it all goes back to Ottawa. Thank you. Thank you for putting
00:19:50.140me back there. You know, it dawned on me at that moment that Canada was such a large country. We're
00:19:57.920the second largest country in the world. We're a very sparsely populated country, and we're dealing
00:20:04.360with a global network. And it appears that their agenda is being downloaded locally. So this is a
00:20:15.400huge opportunity for us across the country to counter that agenda at the local level moving
00:20:21.400forward. So I was really excited to, you know, start attending rallies outside my local town
00:20:28.640hall. And it just dawned on me and, you know, networking with the local people here on what
00:20:34.360was happening at our town hall, that we should start doing delegations at our town hall and
00:20:40.580opposing it. So I do have a couple of things to share going forward. I could share just a little
00:20:46.240clip of that first delegation that really went viral in our movement and showed people that
00:20:53.320Agenda 21 is being implemented at the local level and introduced ICLEI as a key player in all of
00:21:00.880this. We hear about the United Nations and the WEF and all these international organizations,
00:21:07.500but who has heard of ICLEI? So we introduced that and some of their founding documents.
00:21:15.400And from there, I can tell a little bit of the story and what we can do moving forward to
00:21:20.820um push back together all across the country you got the video ready i do can you send it
00:21:28.900to me so i can put it up on the screen please um i have it ready to go here so if i can present it
00:21:40.700yeah you can present it all right it's just that you there it is okay so we're going to throw this
00:21:45.120up here on the screen there we go perfect excellent i'm just going to take over tonight
00:21:48.820shadow i got it all lined up just like you do i'm gonna sit back and watch with everybody else then
00:21:54.840go ahead all right so this is um just a clip of the first presentation to peterborough june 26
00:22:06.0402023 i found in my research that the doomsday predictions were based on flawed science
00:22:14.860and stemmed from unelected international organizations i just want to check that the
00:22:20.980sound is sharing yeah it sounds good to me can you guys hear it everybody can hear it
00:22:30.480sound is fine all right we're good to go keep going the policies that they are recommending
00:22:36.860have undermined our rights and our sovereignty and i would like to give a background on that
00:22:43.900before I address the reports on your agenda tonight.
00:22:47.620In 1992, Canada signed on to the UN Agenda 21.
00:22:52.960A total of 178 nations agreed because this international agreement
00:23:00.400promised to bring big money for going green.
00:23:04.420Once signed, Canada became a UN member state, a nation state,
00:23:11.900and was no longer a sovereign country under the rule of law and the supremacy of God.
00:23:17.860And everything I'm saying is, I believe that...
00:23:20.240I'm just going to jump forward there and state that we are still a sovereign nation.
00:23:25.020We just need to pull it back a little bit here.
00:23:29.040I believe that acronym is pronounced ICLE, or ISIL, if you can correct me which one.
00:23:36.820Instead of following parliamentary procedures for law changes,
00:23:41.180The municipal primer, which looks like this, the title of it, the title page, was sent to all our local towns in 1994 and outlined how they would restructure their governments to implement the global agenda instead of a local one.
00:23:59.820And committing public funds to private, sustainable initiatives, development goals, and foreign investors under the guise of saving the planet.
00:26:51.460And if we look at the municipal primer,
00:26:54.560it talks about this ideal of, you know, moving the majority of the population into settlement
00:27:02.300areas. And this is where we get our, our high density housing and all these extra bylaws and
00:27:08.660policies and property taxes in the rural areas, so that it's making it more and more unaffordable
00:27:14.560for us to live there. And we're getting moved in and pushed into these settlement areas,0.99
00:27:19.000where it's easier to to monitor and track us and and control us right and that's what
00:27:26.420sustainable development is i have here um just i'm just going to throw something up i found out
00:27:34.360and i was uh off the top of the show i'd mentioned this that up in roblin manitoba which is a town
00:27:39.300like i said very close to the manitoba saskatchewan border of about 3 000 people it's not it's not big
00:27:44.480all i've been there and there's a couple of pieces of land where kids play right in the
00:27:51.360middle of town that the town council there decided they were going to sell that land was going to be
00:27:58.720sold to developers and what do you think with the intention of something being built there
00:28:04.960and what do you think was going to be built there
00:28:06.720solar wind farms good very good very good guess it's basically tenement government style housing
00:28:16.860you know five six hundred square foot uh studio apartments maybe two three floors high in a town
00:28:24.800of three thousand people with like amazing huge parcels of land surrounding it all i mean it's
00:28:32.4603,000 people, this little town in the middle of the prairies, where there's land as far as the eye can see.
00:28:39.100And they want to jam as many people as they can into as small a space as they can.
00:28:46.520And we all, I don't know if you've been following, but the federal government keeps talking about this housing accelerator fund that they have.
00:28:54.340And in Ontario, I'm not sure what it is everywhere else, but only 0.2% of all that money that they're giving to the municipalities for housing, affordable housing, only 0.2% is going to rural municipalities.
00:29:13.080So that means 98% of it is going to urban municipalities to build high density housing.
00:29:21.240So this is the future of Canada if we don't start going into our councils and pointing out that they don't have to do this, which is proving to be effective.
00:29:34.020I know that your whole purpose is the local initiatives, and you've done several different city and town hall presentations in the past year and a half or so.
00:29:45.400But if we take a look at the proposals that have been put forward by Justin Trudeau and Pierre Polyev,
00:29:50.980Justin Trudeau announced a couple of weeks ago that he doesn't want to sell the land that Pierre Polyev has been talking about.
00:29:59.260Polyev's talking about selling the land that Canada has, selling some properties that is no longer in use for the federal government.
00:30:06.920Trudeau wants to lease that land to developers.
00:30:10.620So the federal government would become essentially the landlord of anybody who rents an apartment there,
00:30:18.520whereas Polyev wants to sell it, but I'm not sure under what conditions.
00:30:21.480Do you see any difference in either one of their plans, or do you feel they're both on the same page when it comes to this high-density housing deal?
00:31:14.980And who's behind this land acquisition company?
00:31:17.560Well, it's this company who's owned by this company, owned by this company, and eventually you get to Black Rock, State Street, or Vanguard.
00:31:25.220So you have done, did you want to go into some of the other presentations that you've done, or have you got something else beforehand?
00:31:31.580Yeah, I really want to just, you know, keep it positive and show the example of our first win, which was shortly after that first presentation, we went to a local township, Duro Dummer, in the midst of approving the official plan for Peterborough County, which you're dealing with out in Manitoba, people are dealing with official plans all over the place.
00:31:58.300So I just wanted to show a quick example of some of the points that I made Inder O'Dummer and the councillor's response and show people that our councillors have the power and the authority to stop this.
00:32:53.220the official plan for the community for any community should be dependent on the engagement
00:33:01.260with those who live and work in that community not those from outside outside that community
00:33:08.960and certainly not those from international organizations this plan is essentially a plan0.64
00:33:14.860to dissolve this dear county of duro dumber by accepting this plan you're accepting
00:33:21.820that zero dollar will one day to be devolved and now be able to move further into the state0.94
00:33:26.780destruction and finally that the provincial government be requested to expedite the
00:33:31.820introduction of the new provincial planning statement regarding uh maybe a broad presentation
00:33:40.220i think we should look at some of these consideration for our township um through the
00:33:46.780staff and maybe we could uh see if there's anything there that can keep us alive you know if
00:33:53.660this is uh facts that's going on i think we need to uh stand up we come so i i would like you to
00:34:01.820review some of the suggestions that she made and maybe i wish you could send those uh forward
00:34:09.660before when i keep hearing victim marks the calendar marking doesn't even look
00:34:13.260officially that it's basically also so I don't see how the County of Peterborough can pass something
00:34:19.460that they don't have all the information on. Another thing that for our township is the low growth rate
00:34:26.180they've established over the next, you know, was it 2051, something like that? I think it's 5% or something like that.
00:34:32.180I mean, that isn't even going to keep us a status quo for getting to sit here in good faith and say that
00:34:37.480I would support Peterborough County's official plan because it is
00:34:42.820essentially a death sentence for this municipality. The growth rate is
00:34:48.100incredibly low, there's nothing in it for the county whatsoever.
00:34:54.280It completely stagnates growth, it limits the rights of property owners
00:35:02.400quite significantly and as council pointed out uh it feels like a lot of the
00:35:09.280designations were arbitrarily made especially but in respect to um what's considered private
00:35:19.440agricultural land uh yes with the low growth that we're looking at in the official plan for the
00:35:27.220township. It's unsustainable. Again, the mapping has not come out for all of the agricultural
00:35:38.260land. Okay. So we have a motion on the floor just to send a letter of support to support
00:35:43.820the referral of the approval of the equipment. All right. Any discussion on motion? All in
00:35:53.280favor that motion carries any discussion on motion all in favor that motion carries
00:36:05.560who's the dark-haired woman in the black shirt there who didn't put her hand up
00:36:12.260that was probably one of the staff oh so they don't get a vote so the staff don't get to vote
00:36:22.320let's remember that guys there are people in that room who get to vote and there's people
00:36:29.060who don't get to vote and we can we can influence the people who get to vote and at the end of the
00:36:35.260day that's what the staff has to do so what we want to do is to start making recommendations
00:36:43.120just like the staff does as professionally as the staff does well you know they do work for us
00:36:51.360maggie i mean that is a point you make right like they do the councils all of these politicians who
00:36:57.560run for office and eventually get elected they do work for us and they should listen to us and what
00:37:03.020we've been seeing more and more from politicians at every level whether it's municipal or state
00:37:08.000provincial or federal is is they they've kind of got this weird buffer zone between them and the
00:37:13.960people they they represent and i've seen a lot of laughing actually from some of these politicians
00:37:21.520towards some of the people in their in their writings into their wards and it's incredibly
00:37:28.400frustrating and even maddening to see that kind of thing happening but you had a very good0.85
00:37:33.620experience in duro dumber there obviously and you've built some relationships with a lot of0.96
00:37:39.760these counselors in a lot of these townships in Ontario and you continue to do so. Yeah, I think
00:37:48.040that there are, you know, it makes a difference when the people start showing up. So I think that
00:37:54.160was the first time in Duro Dummer's history that that room was full. And showing up makes a
00:38:02.900difference. I always say that when it comes to civic engagement, we have a lot of different
00:38:09.620strategies that we can use. And obviously, we can call and let people let them know what we think.
00:38:15.300And in their calculations, that represents 10 people who who think the same. So if everyone
00:38:22.300calls, they get a number on that. If people start to write letters, and emails that represents
00:38:29.300and take that effort that represents about 100 people who are interested in that topic when
00:38:35.080people show up in person that represents a thousand people so we made a point to look at
00:38:44.980how many people were in our county and we put a call out that we needed so many people to be there
00:38:55.260And we did great. And we've done that in other municipalities as well. And it's a great point to make when you're doing delegations, right? You know, in Kawartha, I think that there's 72,000 people in Kawartha, and we show up with 72 people. And it makes a difference. And it changes the entire atmosphere of the room.
00:39:18.780and canada is so lacking in civic engagement that this really makes a difference it's it's
00:39:25.360like astounding if some if that many people show up what are the reactions from the politicians
00:39:30.960when they see that many people show up the looks on their faces the things that like are they
00:39:35.760scared surprised how do they respond to that i think they start to recognize that they don't
00:39:44.400hold all the power you know if somebody can pull that many people into a room they hold power and
00:39:51.560it really comes down to you know what we talk about the people have the power how do we actually
00:39:56.880bring that from the 5d to the 3d we show up we we start showing up and um
00:40:05.420and a couple of other successful presentations there's a thorold video i think that you want
00:40:12.860to show us, right? I do. Yes. So let me just jump to that. Okay. There we go. I have to share it
00:40:27.560first. You're much better at jumping around at this than I am. I've been doing it for a while.
00:46:21.120I'm going to go on, seeing that you represent the Federation of Canadian Municipalities,
00:46:27.600seeing you're here representing them, can I ask you why, as the Federation of Canadian
00:46:33.760Municipalities and the Government of Canada, that you would absolve yourselves from any
00:46:37.940liability in regards to municipalities implementing your ICLEI initiatives? Why do you absolve
00:46:45.040yourself from any liability? I might ask my manager, Lindsay Palford, to jump in on that
00:46:51.440one and see if we can get you an answer. I would like a little bit more clarification
00:46:58.640on the question. What exactly are you referring to with respect to absolving responsibility?
00:47:03.360Yeah, okay. Actually, in your PCP Pilot Partners for Climate Protection website, there's a section there that says this project is carried out with the assistance from the Green Municipal Fund, a fund financed by the government of Canada and administered by the Federation of Canadian Municipalities and ICLEI.
00:47:20.360Notwithstanding this support, the views expressed are the personal views of the authors and ICLE-CANNA,
00:47:25.940the Federation of Canadian Municipalities, and the Government of Canada accept no responsibility for them.
00:47:31.540And I ask why you have abholed yourself any liability in regards to us initiating this program.
00:48:00.360So, like I said, it seems like this was the first time they have ever been asked for a presentation to answer questions about their program.
00:48:10.000Um, this program comes into the municipalities with a three page joining resolution, usually
00:48:17.180recommended by staff or some counselor that's been to a fancy networking event. And if you look at
00:48:24.140the FCM, uh, the global news actually just reported that the city of Vancouver spent an enormous
00:48:32.820amount of money, you know, serving smoked salmon and everything to the counselors who would come
00:48:38.340to their event. And somebody put in a freedom of information request to find out how much
00:48:45.440it was for the city of Vancouver to host this event. And it was a lot of money. So the joining
00:48:53.600resolution comes in. This is in now 520 municipalities, slips onto the desk in an agenda,
00:49:01.480they adopt the program, and nobody asks any questions. Nobody looks on their website to see
00:50:03.060but also to provide our councillors across the country with the talking points and resources that they need in order to counter this themselves.
00:50:12.200Because they're the ones who need to step up in the next five years to get this done.
00:50:19.620And there was a really great question that Councillor DeRose asked to the science of it all, to just finish up.
00:50:47.700In regards to now that we've gone here, because you don't work correctly, you work for the Federation of Canadian Municipalities,
00:50:56.240And do you believe that a non-governmental organization's agenda should be part of a municipal council mandate?
00:51:10.080And I ask that because ICLEI themselves, if I could just find him, I apologize in regards to it because I have to go on my phone and get it up.
00:51:22.400but uh there's a sorry i i should have to read it's approximately 420 parts per million thank
00:51:30.640you very much that's sorry go ahead through you mr mayor uh just a few more questions um
00:51:39.360are you able to tell us how much carbon dioxide is in the universe atmosphere
00:51:42.640not at this current moment yeah i'm a teacher and i like numbers so i'm calling this carbon
00:51:51.540dioxide by numbers um it's it's approximately 420 parts per million or 0.42 percent four two of one
00:52:01.400percent um of all the gases in the atmosphere um how much of that carbon dioxide do you think
00:52:08.440comes from natural sources like decayed animal and plant material seems outside the scope of
00:52:15.560uh my presentation today uh just so you know it's 97 that's the basis of your presentation
00:52:24.280well they should be knowledgeable about this mr mayor if they're pushing this stuff on us
00:52:28.840they should be knowledgeable about this i i should have to research it and learn mr mayor
00:52:33.480um so three percent of of uh so basically that means the world's eight billion people produce
00:52:44.440only three percent of all carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is that correct
00:52:48.680mr mayor point of order i don't think we're here for a science lesson
00:52:54.100he's asking questions i'm just gonna do our presenters have an answer for that or are we
00:53:01.040moving up i like this mayor i i would only recommend that council look to the international
00:53:07.620panel on climate change online has a wealth of resources and information should you wish to
00:53:12.780look at the global consensus on on climate climate science at the present moment and i'm sure they
00:53:19.860have representatives and canadian representatives who might be willing to come to council and share
00:53:25.500their thoughts on the state of science do you know who funds them i didn't think so do you know
00:53:30.960who funds them yes okay i didn't think so they don't know uh yes mr mayor i i just want so yes
00:53:38.660i recommend you know that's on the kickley canada youtube page that whole presentation is 30 minutes
00:53:44.920long it's fascinating and this is what we're up against in my opinion right so we need counselors
00:53:53.320like that in every municipality in this country who can just ask a question like straight up like
00:53:59.580that and you know it's a reasonable question i mean if you guys are going to come here and tell
00:54:03.120us that we need to green everything up and we need to go ahead and and and uh jam people into
00:54:08.760apartment buildings and we need to uh put windmills and solar panels into our town here and and you
00:54:15.280know wipe out a monument maybe that's been there for a hundred years because it's in the way of
00:54:21.080moving forward into this green, clean plan, then at least have the grace to have the rationale
00:54:28.500behind why we should do that when you come to our council meeting, right?
00:54:33.020Right. And I just see Michael's comment there, hard to find those in the big cities. And what
00:54:40.100I've said at the beginning is our country is lacking leadership. So if you don't have leaders
00:54:45.420in your community start networking get everyone's contacts encourage people in what they're doing
00:54:52.560let them know what you're doing and step up don't wait to get elected to go out there and start
00:54:58.300speaking for the people and utilize the information um i'm providing and and your own knowledge base
00:55:05.680and and life experience and expertise to get out there and just start start being a leader that's
00:55:13.000the type of people that came to ottawa were all leaders right and um that interesting and they
00:55:20.440all went home and created their own groups after that well not every single person we can't say
00:55:27.020that about everybody but many of them did and many of them are still speaking out you know i talked
00:55:32.240to derrick noonan this morning who's a really good guy and you know he's been one of those guys
00:55:38.440for the last uh well i guess even before the convoy he was one of those guys and now he's
00:55:43.700even a bigger presence i want to get you sent me a list of so many things that you wanted to cover
00:55:49.180on the show tonight and i said yeah okay that looks fine uh and then i went no wait a minute
00:55:53.940that's way too much so what is absolutely vital that we cover uh next there's like 20 things here
00:56:02.260still to go. We just haven't got the time. So moving forward, we continued doing delegations
00:56:11.020in Peterborough County. We started researching who the local NGOs were that are monitoring and
00:56:18.340tracking our progress towards the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals, who is administrating
00:56:25.520the Partners for Climate Protection Program if it's not being done in the city. We identified
00:56:31.100our local NGO, Sustainable Peterborough, and did delegations pointing out how much funding
00:56:37.420they were receiving and recommending that they reallocate those funds to local programs.
00:56:43.380And just recently, yesterday, I spoke to the county of Peterborough, and it appears that
00:56:50.560the city and the county are reallocating funds to a consultant to bring the work that Sustainable
00:56:59.620Peterborough was doing in-house. So I took that opportunity to go and speak to the county and
00:57:07.660make my recommendations to withdraw from the Partners for Climate Protection Program.
00:57:13.620And the CAO, essentially, after when she was asked, she skirted the question and
00:57:21.160and um we we will be following up on that essentially this is what it was it's a great
00:57:29.700example of of how they you know when they're asked a question by the council the cao does
00:57:37.200this little word play she leaves out a whole bunch of information and and moves forward from there
00:57:44.640so it's really important that when we do our delegations we follow up and that we we do keep
00:57:49.880communicating with the councils in our area but here in peterborough i think we have a great
00:57:54.520opportunity to um withdraw our entire county from that program um and i just wanted to of that cao
00:58:05.400pardon do you have video of that cao uh giving you the word salad there i do can we see it yeah
00:58:14.120that all done because i'm interested in hearing how they try and skirt around a direct question
00:58:20.380like that okay so it is a little bit long you know with word salad and stuff so all right well
00:58:26.660when we're done we're done i mean we'll see how she bumbles through it here okay it kind of starts
00:58:32.880with the end of my presentation so and then goes into the count the question um
00:58:40.880I should just pull it up there we go I'll just start a little bit later here
00:58:54.080labor-intensive data collection which includes energy consumption and waste data from all
00:59:03.260sources within corporate and community sectors setting reduction targets to achieve net zero
00:59:09.800by 2050 and adopting an ongoing series of policy changes and expenditure approvals to meet those
00:59:17.820targets. Furthermore, the program's affiliation with ICLEI and its funding sources, including
00:59:25.560major corporations like Google, BlackRock, and Vanguard, raises concerns. I'll just jump ahead.
00:59:33.160In focusing on practical, locally driven initiatives, we can make meaningful progress
00:59:58.760I'm just wondering what that looks like
01:00:00.740in terms of consultant and any benchmarks
01:00:03.100that we may be looking at in the future.
01:00:05.780for you and thank you um the recommendation that i've reported my report is that we work
01:00:12.340collaboratively with the townships in this regard and so um it would be preliminary at this point
01:00:17.840to determine what those overall goals will be we need to work as a group collaboratively to
01:00:22.320um to put that together in terms of terms of reference and scope of work um our participation
01:00:28.620with the fcmp partners in climate protection program started in 2018 when we passed our
01:00:35.040climate change action plans at the county for the community and corporate as well as all the
01:00:39.600townships and the two first nations how those plans identified a lot of community-based actions
01:00:45.600that have been tracked throughout and we did achieve a step four in the framework we can
01:00:52.340stop it there Maggie I get what she's doing she's just trying to evade and dodge the questioning
01:00:57.180but one thing she did say that catches my attention there is the city should work cooperatively
01:01:02.860collaboratively with the townships in ontario for those of you that don't know townships
01:01:07.900counties uh the same as municipalities pretty much everywhere else right so these are areas
01:01:13.900that are governed by their own municipal councils and when you're talking about emerging areas or
01:01:21.580municipalities together that it to me anyway it sounds like that's what they're doing with
01:01:25.340peterborough is they trying to do that with the townships merging into the city itself
01:01:30.780No, not necessarily in Peterborough. They've done that in Kawartha. We're really lucky in Peterborough. So our townships at this point still have a county council and we can go and speak to local councils in each township, in each village and make our points known and influence them there.
01:01:55.720so it's a little bit easier here in Peterborough in that regard and there's benefits to both
01:02:02.140is it provincially mandated in Ontario that these counties or townships come up with
01:02:10.580their own climate plans or are they just doing this on their own
01:02:14.280it's not provincially mandated every five years our municipalities have to
01:02:23.020do an energy consumption demand report hope i'm saying that right and essentially what they look
01:02:31.040at there is the energy consumption of just municipal buildings that are occupied by people
01:02:38.220so and every five years and it takes peterborough the city of peterborough about 100 hours to do
01:02:44.160that the pcp program looks at everything and when i say everything i mean absolutely everything all
01:02:52.300of our consumption and waste from all corporate and all community sources and the partners for
01:02:59.420climate protection move through the area they check and see the occupancy of each house each
01:03:05.300apartment each business they want to know exactly how many people are where at any given time they
01:03:11.180want data it's an absolute massive data collection process and you know that's what the cao left out
01:03:21.340there's five milestones not four she said we've moved through four milestones and she left out
01:03:28.920the fifth one which is repeating the data collection process which takes a lot of time
01:03:35.320and um you know you can't say that these climate action plans don't cost anything to to achieve net
01:03:45.840zero by 2050 and buy new municipal fleets and charging stations everywhere and adopting
01:03:55.920all these new building standards that aren't legislated by the provincial government just
01:04:01.620randomly adopt a whole bunch of red tape and upgrade all your municipal buildings and so on
01:04:07.500so before we we close off i wanted to give people the action plan that we have and um
01:04:14.600i don't want to close off yeah there's still a whole bunch of things i want to get to here that
01:04:18.820you listed and and the reason that i brought up uh whether or not it was provincially mandated
01:04:23.360is because it seems like in manitoba it is the government of manitoba has issued a proclamation
01:04:29.220that says all of the municipalities in this province will have to come up with a climate plan
01:04:35.900by a certain date and of course they've also initiated the winnipeg metropolitan region
01:04:40.940plan 2050 which has met with acrimonious response in their second public meeting second of two
01:04:48.080public meetings uh they were to have held uh the second one being down in neverville about a month
01:04:53.000ago so many people turned up and you know the pitchforks and the torches and the fruit and all
01:04:57.360of that that they canceled it and they said they would reschedule it at a later time in a bigger
01:05:01.300venue because too many people showed up for the venue that was down there they still haven't
01:05:05.580rescheduled it yet then they claim that they're going to be revamping this plan but this plan
01:05:11.820included un uh phraseology something like over a hundred times sustainability diversity equity
01:05:19.860all of that stuff you know uh and and so we're on to it we're doing a presentation in stonewall
01:05:25.640this weekend ken drysdale and i are doing this what are your thoughts on this is this a different
01:05:30.420thing that you've seen in the past couple of years um no the the official plan that they put
01:05:39.020forward there is very similar to all the plans we're looking at across the country i mean the
01:05:44.980way they're doing it the way they're they're trying to get people and this board that they've
01:05:49.740come up with has a representative one representative from each of the 18 rms that surround the city of
01:05:55.820winnipeg sometimes it's the mayor sometimes it's just a counselor but these uh particular select
01:06:02.420individuals have been instructed by the board which is provincially appointed there's also
01:06:07.840four appointees on this board that they are not to discuss anything that gets discussed in the
01:06:13.760winnipeg metropolitan region board with members of their own councils in their own municipalities
01:06:18.980not even their families it's that hush hush which of course raises eyebrows all over the place
01:06:26.300people want to know why the hell they're being so secretive about it that's what i'm asking here i
01:06:30.640mean like these other ones that you've dealt with they've been out there in the public and and so
01:06:35.260you've called a lot of these officials on it and it's hilarious to watch them you know like writhe
01:06:40.900around trying to answer the questions that you've put to them but these people the ones here they
01:06:46.240haven't even exposed themselves to the public yet at least not really what's interesting about
01:06:51.900plan 2050 is they they leave a lot of clues in these documents so we we can thank them for that
01:06:59.560they give a great background on how this came about and how you know on such and such a date the
01:07:04.840they they adopted the sustainable development initiative and that their implement you know
01:07:12.820they, they flat out say that this is part of the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals. And
01:07:17.740on such and such a date, the, they, they formed this board, and then it changed names several
01:07:25.280times. And they came out with a report which recommended that, that they, I really, when I
01:07:36.580was reading it, I found this one clue in there. And I think that that's, that one recommendation
01:07:42.300is what set it all off so this all was based on this one recommendation and I think that as as we
01:07:49.980start diving into it that's going to be what we're actually going to need to target to uproot this out
01:07:56.540of Winnipeg so I'm going to be touching base with Manitoba Stronger Together on Monday and and hand
01:08:05.460them my report to go along with what Ken's done he's done a really great job and
01:08:10.320yeah we're on to them we're on to them now and the people are there ready to show up boots on
01:08:16.920the ground so i just hope that everyone gets behind it the way it's going here when you say
01:08:23.760to people oh and by the way they're giving themselves the power to come and take your land
01:08:28.940whenever they feel ready to do so right the funny thing is some of these people on this board have
01:08:35.860been questioned by some of the residents, especially there's one local reporter used
01:08:42.980to work for the CBC. She questioned the president of this board and said, you've got UN Agenda 2030
01:08:49.340all over this report. And dude looked at her and said, oh, now you're just making things up.
01:08:54.120Yeah. It's included in the report itself. I don't even know how many times, maybe a dozen times
01:09:00.360they say it right there. And then again, they use the language of the United Nations and their 17
01:09:05.480SDG goals so it's not like anybody's making things up and you wonder if people these people
01:09:11.620have read their own report even or if they're lying that's no no you know our counselors
01:09:21.480across this country need to recognize how important their job is and
01:09:28.000and it's our job to come alongside them at the same time and help to educate them in a way that
01:09:39.680doesn't piss them off doesn't put them off right i mean we we have to you know you've got
01:09:48.440maggie you've got a very good philosophy on this and you know maggie and i have several
01:09:53.600conversations about this over the past few months. And I think when I told you about the
01:09:58.620Neverville situation, how people were so upset, there was a lot of yelling that was going on.
01:10:03.140People couldn't get in from the parking lot. They were, they wanted to know what was going on. I
01:10:07.160showed you the video of it. You saw that. Um, and rightfully so these people have every reason to
01:10:12.700be upset. You know, when, when you read about possible surveillance on you or your family or
01:10:19.020your friends at any given time. When you talk about not being able to drive a gas-powered vehicle
01:10:24.480along certain routes at certain times, or maybe having to get a license to do so from whatever
01:10:30.400public entity is going to supply that. Or, you know, your land. I mean, Ken Lee said to us a
01:10:36.840couple of months ago, you know, he owns 10 acres in part of the city here. What if they, and he's
01:10:41.220one guy, what if they decide, you know what, you're not using these 10 acres, so we're going
01:10:45.180to expropriate half that, put up an apartment building for 300 people on it.
01:10:49.020would that be okay but it's not like they come along and ask you they just do it because they've
01:10:54.800granted themselves the power to do that so once you say that to people that makes them go what
01:11:01.680are you talking about first i think and then the next thing is no they they can't do that you say
01:11:07.860yes they can it's in their report right here well i we're not like letting that happen and they also
01:11:15.540this board here has the power to override any local municipal government yeah yeah which is
01:11:23.700it i don't know why i'm getting back but it says what's going on is this no that's me okay it says
01:11:35.120that they can take the council to the king's bench if they go against that board yeah right in the
01:11:42.040plan yeah so if you go if you go to your council in this particular instance here in manitoba maybe
01:11:50.780not you guys if you're watching in saskatchewan or if you're watching in alberta or bc uh or
01:11:55.480anywhere else but in this particular instance in manitoba they have created a situation where
01:12:01.560there's this one board that is the overlord of all of the other rural municipalities and the
01:12:10.080city of winnipeg itself for that matter so if you go to the rm and you're looking for a permit to
01:12:15.440dig a wealth let's just say and the rm says yeah sure that's good with us but then the wmr our
01:12:22.660board comes along and says no i'm sorry but they can't do that they overrule your rural
01:12:28.360municipalities elected board so a bunch of appointees will overrule your elected officials
01:12:34.900that's the way it's going here it's crazy you know they push so far right and they've created
01:12:41.840all this division but what i'm finding is that these issues affect the people on the left and
01:12:52.120the right and when it comes down to it people are pretty concerned when government overreaches onto
01:13:00.420what they can do with their land driving up their property taxes overtaxing them misspending the
01:13:06.200money um not answering questions limiting public feedback these are all things that people on the
01:13:14.660left and right actually have concerns about so what i'm trying to do myself and set an example
01:13:24.120of is when it comes to this kind of work at least it might be different when you know i'm around a
01:13:29.520bonfire or whatever. But if I'm speaking in public about this stuff, I'm very careful, you know,
01:13:36.160not to use extreme rhetoric and just to drop the emotional attachment to how I feel about all of
01:13:45.240this and do everything I can to influence the person that I'm speaking to a little bit towards
01:13:54.180the middle and um that seems to be working people are following this work that
01:13:58.820you know see themselves on the left because they're they're tired of the environmental
01:14:06.060movement being weaponized against the people they they want real local environmental stewardship
01:14:11.520too just like me and when we point out that our government is spending hundreds of thousands of
01:14:17.220dollars on on data collection programs and calling it environmental stewardship that can
01:14:23.340get underneath the skin of your local tree planter and community garden activist just as
01:14:31.800much as it can on you know people that are just want to live on their land and be left alone and
01:14:40.500not have someone come and ask what their well is doing and you know shut it close down their well
01:14:46.400And in your official plan, it talks about they can do that based on being at risk for climate change events, right?
01:14:56.440So stop using climate change as an excuse to take our property rights away.
01:15:01.700The thing is, when they do use climate change as that excuse, what happens?
01:15:06.300The first thing that you want to say is, come on, like use climate change.
01:15:10.900I mean, first of all, even if it is real and even if man or humans have caused most of it, look at around you.
01:15:19.220This is Canada. You know, we're responsible for what, one point six percent of that before we can do anything.
01:15:24.960Why don't you go talk to China or talk to India or talk to the United States and have them put a carbon tax on.
01:15:31.560Do you think that Canada, you know, especially with somebody like Justin Trudeau as the leader of government, is setting an example for any other countries in the world, for goodness sakes?
01:15:42.540So we are the ones that have to suffer while those guys go ahead and pollute up a storm.
01:15:48.020Having said that, I think it's all a bunch of BS anyway.
01:15:50.780Look, I don't want to see, you know, factories billowing smoke into the air any more than the next person.
01:15:56.520I don't want to see factories dumping poison chemicals into lakes any more than the next guy.
01:23:45.660There's your link to register for the monthly Zoom meetings and introducing the strategies and providing support to teams across the country.
01:23:55.740um this is is a great meeting and it's happening this month the 30th at 7 o'clock p.m eastern
01:24:05.700standard time and um you can also book a consultation with me now um this is that's
01:24:13.040not you who's that i don't know that's a great picture of somebody with a lot of papers she0.96
01:24:17.900look, that looks like me right there with like a hundred papers in front of me. And, um, and so,0.99
01:24:25.960yeah, now I've kind of listed the, the services that, that I'm providing. And really, if, if you
01:24:32.940want to work through these steps yourselves, the steps are there. So, you know, what, what kind of
01:24:39.220research and organization is required to do this in your community, researching the NGOs,
01:24:47.900and um the reports the official plans and creating and drafting reports um so i'm listing
01:24:56.380people are always asking me first of all they they ask me what's the most important thing
01:25:04.540right because there's all these battles going on all the time and what i tell them at least what
01:25:09.100i have been saying in the last six months is we need to attack this at a local level this whole
01:25:14.680uh ickly thing this is the hill i believe along with probably right now bill c 293 which is dire
01:25:23.780and it's close to passing the senate from what i see here on the parliament website we can get
01:25:28.980to that in just a second because i know you were at the protest the other day um this local level
01:25:36.200thing guys is you know people ask me what can i do what can i do how can i help now you could be
01:25:42.100sitting by yourself right now in your house in your bedroom in your living room whatever watching
01:25:46.760us talking and telling you this stuff but maybe maybe there's somebody in your town or your city
01:25:56.060who feels the same way that you do and from that you can start forming a group and you can start
01:26:03.100standing up and fighting back against this stuff like maggie has been doing and she's got all the
01:26:07.460tools to show you how to do it. It's not like you have to reinvent the wheel here. It's very
01:26:13.480important. Maggie, I believe the work that you're doing is the most important work here because
01:26:18.820it's the most accessible thing to us, right? Something that we can affect the most easily
01:26:25.420just by talking to our local counselors. And in smaller towns, it's probably easier than it is
01:26:32.180large cities because you know there's 3 000 people there might be five or six counselors
01:26:38.100you see them all the time in the coffee shop or at the garage or wherever they with the local store
01:26:44.020uh the co-op wherever they happen to be and you can engage them in that way and like you say you
01:26:50.340don't have to be mean about it you don't have to go yelling with you know with the spears and and uh
01:26:57.140you know torches or anything like that you just ask them what is going on with this
01:27:02.180In your experience, have you seen councillors and mayors who are completely clueless about this?
01:27:09.620They have absolutely no idea that this is going on right under their noses?
01:29:57.440just like they did they they thought of this plan a long time ago and we're we're going up against a
01:30:04.280a 50 50 year old plan probably older than that and um they didn't do that by force they did that
01:30:11.680diplomatically they did it politely they they went in and they did presentations and
01:30:18.560we're in a time where our country has a multitude of national crises happening housing affordability
01:30:28.940mental health, drug addiction, drug dependency, the list goes on. So we just need to start
01:30:36.940pointing it out. Maybe this isn't a good time to upgrade the municipal building to green standards
01:30:43.260as you're raising property taxes. We're in the midst of inflation and, you know, there's a housing
01:30:50.740crisis. Walking around your entire city, scaring people so badly that they don't ever want to go
01:30:56.060downtown again remember you and i were driving through downtown winnipeg there a couple of months
01:31:00.320ago and you were like whoa this is so nice and it was a nice night but i said like roll up the window
01:31:05.660roll the window up yeah you don't know who's gonna come like just reach into the car and
01:31:13.140try and grab you um i'm not you i'm not i'm not a city girl so to me it's like oh it's so pretty
01:31:20.080it's not it's not the way it should be but that's how it is and and that's a sad situation and it's
01:31:28.100happening in pretty much every major city in our country Maggie is there anything else that you
01:31:33.080need to mention to the folks here before we we move along I just wanted to say people can start
01:31:40.120there's a booking link there I know people are just reaching out like crazy to have some time
01:31:47.500with me and to get their group connected with me and everything. So there's obviously the Zoom
01:31:52.840meeting once a month, and there's also a booking link now. So people can look at the different
01:31:59.920things that I'm offering, things that I can do, and book some time and get moving forward.
01:32:08.460And basically moving forward, people will have to book that time with me and
01:32:14.660retain my services because I'm basically working on this 14 hours a day and I have to prioritize
01:32:23.700it somehow. Thank you. There's over 500 municipalities that are affected by all of
01:32:29.360this across the country. I was talking with lawyer Lisa Miron this morning in a press conference
01:32:37.000with a bunch of other independent media and Dr. Martrosi was there and a few others. They were
01:32:43.560talking about bill c 293 which appears to be coming to a conclusion in terms of passing its
01:32:51.640first reading was completed in the senate back in june second reading no activity on this yet
01:32:56.620how devastating is this bill exactly what do you know about it so it's basically handing over all
01:33:06.040of our health data to international organizations once again um setting up a surveillance state
01:33:16.780to monitor and track our movements um who we interact with both domestically and internationally
01:33:25.660and um you know public health when i went to the county yesterday our public health officer
01:33:35.680was doing a presentation on public health and climate change
01:33:42.220and you just see how this is all big one big data collection surveillance program coming through
01:33:54.160right and they're always tying public health to climate change and and the two go hand in hand
01:34:00.760So everyone who was really, you know, speaking up about the lockdowns and the pandemic and everything that we just experienced, I've always known that as just as much as we had the doctors standing up to speak out about what was happening, we need the people with an expertise in what's really going on with the climate to start speaking out too.
01:34:25.660and um essentially to me it's it's leading us down the path of
01:34:30.980becoming a surveillance state many of them have many of these climate folks have spoken up with
01:34:39.500you know actual knowledge that is not beholden to any corporate interests right but they get
01:34:47.820censored every single time they speak up they get censored i think there's a movie called uh
01:34:53.680climate that i watched on was it rumble probably it couldn't have been youtube because it's been
01:35:00.040canceled on youtube but i think i watched it's 45 minutes long and it's all of all of these
01:35:04.900scientists who've studied the climate and by the way there are no climate scientists per se right
01:35:09.660it's not like there's a course you could take be a climate scientist four years it's it's different
01:35:14.480fields of study within the climate and it's not that everybody knows every single thing about
01:35:20.980the way the climate is operating uh but a lot of people like patrick moore for example
01:35:26.180uh you know people like that who who come out and give you basic information grade eight
01:35:33.960information yeah let's be honest it's eighth grade information and you go oh yeah i forgot about that
01:35:38.960well how could how could it be then and then they backtrack and they actually reason it out and you
01:35:46.060go it makes perfect sense to me but these people are completely unaffected by any large corporate
01:35:52.100interests so they're able to speak the truth the truth that they know the actual scientific truth
01:35:57.960but the problem is that it's become politicized and the media is owned by you know the big
01:36:05.260corporate interests so how do we fight back against that the first thing i think is we have
01:36:11.560to stop being afraid of being called climate deniers before anything else right yeah patrick
01:36:19.860moore he was the founder of greenpeace in case people um weren't aware of that and he's spoken
01:36:25.940out against um the ipcc quite a bit and the so-called climate consensus they have now the
01:36:33.640clintel intelligence group and i think over 2 000 scientists from around the world have have signed
01:36:41.340on their their statement and declaration stating that there is no climate emergency and and they
01:36:49.480list out basic points and that those are the main points i'm using for my climate climate facts
01:36:56.360series and i think like you said grade eight even grade two science that's where we need to start
01:37:03.120with our neighbors just try and be the calm introduce because people are freaking out
01:37:11.180about the climate it's it's creating eco anxiety amongst young people old people and you know
01:37:18.640we can help people mentally by just reasoning with them or you played video of you know when
01:37:27.140he says well i'm a teacher and i enjoy numbers and how much of the atmosphere is exactly carbon
01:37:32.800dioxide and how much of it is created by human beings right and he had all the information in
01:37:39.240front of them and i've seen that very question asked in uh the united states in congress you
01:37:45.260know when they have those hearings and the person who is sitting there testifying never has the
01:37:51.260answer for that yeah right but ultimately carbon dioxide is plant food and they breathe out oxygen
01:37:59.440it's the exact opposite of what we do and saskatchewan the rural municipalities 95 percent
01:38:08.060of them passed a resolution stating that exactly what you just said that co2 is not a pollutant
01:38:16.780it's plant food and they're no longer pursuing net zero by 2050 policies and and tennessee did
01:38:25.100the same right they they went so far as passing it it into law that they they're not any organization
01:38:33.940in their state is not even allowed to work with ICLEI.
01:38:38.320So there are wins out there that are happening.