00:27:38.100Now the government is going to help influence our algorithms.
00:27:40.500two things we don't need in a one case with bill c18 where uh meta slash facebook and uh google
00:27:47.240called their bluff and they said yeah your legislation sucks uh canadian government we're
00:27:53.980actually not going to show the news anymore objectively poor legislation yet they could
00:27:58.780easily pass through uh bill c63 but the second reason that i you know landed upon uh fighting
00:28:04.640this bill is how are we going to talk about any of these other issues if we if we get our
00:28:10.440tongues ripped out it's we can't right i mean i i believe that it's you know it's something i say
00:28:18.760i go you know maggie hope bron's got her her thing going on with kickley and i believe it's
00:28:24.020very important that we maintain the right to own property and they're trying to take that away from
00:28:28.920us clearly uh but the free speech thing is equally as important so i'm glad we've got so many people
00:28:34.620people, good people, smart people working on these different beachheads. Because if we don't,
00:28:41.440you know, we let something slip past the goalie here, they're going to get us one way or another.
00:28:45.020So we do have good people focused on pretty much all the areas we need to focus on right now.
00:28:50.060You've looked at the bill. You've seen Bill C-63, obviously. What are some of the penalties?
00:28:55.800What would be a crime according to this bill? And then how can you be punished?
00:29:04.620That's a great question. We're still working on the quintessential video on this topic. However, I sent you a link in the chat there because we've laid out the worst of the worst on our website. You can go to savefreespeech.ca slash C63, scroll down a bit, and there's a bunch of drop-down sort of explanations with screenshots from the bill.
00:29:27.740but essentially we do not give this bill the benefit of the doubt when analyzing it whatsoever
00:29:33.240we don't give this bill the benefit of the doubt whatsoever when analyzing it so we look at the
00:29:38.980lowest possible threshold to charge somebody with something life imprisonment for attending a
00:29:44.160protest the example we use is if you attend a process a protest that opposes mass migration
00:29:48.800for example you could be charged with mischief as we know and with bill c63 there's a standalone
00:29:54.660hate crime charge that a crown prosecutor could add to any charge. So if you have mischief and
00:30:01.240they decide, you know what, you know what shadow, we actually think that your mischief was motivated
00:30:05.340by hatred. Uh, that's liable to life imprisonment. Now you can see the screenshot. It says hate crime
00:30:11.200offense motivated by hatred. The last sentence says liable to imprisonment for life. This is
00:30:15.840actually, this is actually in the bill. As I was doing the research, I was like, I can't believe
00:30:21.980it's actually that crazy the next one's also insane go to jail for intensely for intense
00:30:27.660yeah so this one's crazy this one's crazy so they're broadening the definition of criminal
00:30:34.960hate speech to include detestation and vilification so if you detest and you vilify
00:30:41.160the maple leafs no if you detest and you vilify uh you know an evil person a murderer a you know
00:30:47.980sexual predator who preys upon children which i think is totally legitimate to detest and vilify
00:30:54.400technically according to this bill you could be uh charged and go to jail for five years
00:31:00.920for intensely disliking someone or detestation vilification because the thing is if you look up
00:31:05.460detestation the definition is intensely dislike intensely dislike this is this is something that
00:31:13.540I was joking about when I talked about this about a month ago and I did bring up hockey teams or
00:31:18.700football teams like what if a fan of the Calgary Flames pipes up one night on Twitter and says I
00:31:26.400hate those freaking Oilers or I hate that Connor McDavid or or Leon Dreisaitl or whoever happens
00:31:34.140to be on the Oilers right so could that be construed as hate speech as as detestation and0.99
00:31:42.720if so would would you have a cop knocking on your door the next day and of course the people
00:31:48.980presenting this bill say oh no no no no no no no no no of course of course not shadow that would
00:31:55.460never happen we would never do that but then and why this upsets me so much and i'm even seeing
00:32:02.120lawyers give this like have the same take oh no they would never do that are you aware and to
00:32:08.720these people i would say are you aware of what happened after the trucker convoy a group of
00:32:12.660people because of their political opinion got the book thrown at them for their opinion they found
00:32:18.160loopholes they found reasons to charge this person to charge that person imprison this person
00:32:23.180get this person tied up in uh in in legal battles and we're supposed to believe that this type of
00:32:28.560legislation wouldn't be used for the same thing wouldn't be used to uh persecute uh you know
00:32:32.740political opposition to this ruling regime i'm not stupid like of course it would be used for that
00:32:39.300yeah i mean and and because they need to make an example of somebody so that the rest of the
00:32:44.260country falls in line right i mean that's the whole thing with tamara leach and chris barber0.66
00:32:48.180that's the whole thing with the coots guys you know anybody who has been you know on trial for0.78
00:32:54.260the last couple of years i mean on mischief charges let's be real you know this is not about1.00
00:33:00.100putting them away for the rest of their lives this is about scaring everybody else into compliance
00:33:05.220house arrest if someone fears you might post something hateful in the future so now we're
00:33:11.860talking about minority report we are you you emphasize the correct word there uh very
00:33:18.900appropriately shadow someone if someone fears that you might post something all they have to do is
00:33:26.020one canadian citizen can make an argument to the attorney general that someone might post
00:33:33.080hate propaganda in the future it could be and and then they'll essentially uh put you on a
00:33:39.020potentially two-year peace bond which can include house arrest curfew ankle monitors drug tests
00:33:44.960surrendering your firearms this is for not even doing anything just somebody making the argument
00:33:51.880that you might do something and the thing that you might do is not even it could be posting like a
00:33:58.180hateful meeting yes really it's and this is what i mean the fact that they're even presenting
00:34:04.380legislation like this is so inappropriate and disgusting that i mean we can get into the
00:34:10.740conservative party in a minute but it is it is such an insult to what canada is supposed to mean
00:34:16.920in terms of freedom and it is such a uh you know undermining of course of our charter of a charter
00:34:24.640of rights and freedoms um like it's there's just so many loopholes in this thing you could drive a
00:34:30.580truck through the a convoy of trucks through the through the through the loopholes in this piece
00:34:35.900of legislation and we're supposed to believe oh a reefer ronnie when he presented this bill said
00:34:40.300oh don't worry like we'll appoint people who are fair when we do this a reefer right yeah of course
00:34:46.500So we don't know which unelected bureaucrats are going to be the ones making the decisions to throw away the key, you know, for 20 years, throwing us in jail.
00:34:55.680Or I understand the fines are pretty bad, too, up to, what is it, $20,000 or $60,000 or something?
00:35:01.860And the person that reports you never, ever has, you never find out who that is.
00:38:29.480headquartered in canada they're headquartered in montreal and they have been guilty of being
00:38:35.040associated with human trafficking it's bad if you really cared if you really wanted to stop this
00:38:42.200problem and protect kids from sexual exploitation you would be naming Pornhub you would have
00:38:48.220specific legislation toward Pornhub but they don't and guess what this is more research that
00:38:55.040I actually need to kind of complete and create into a video and put it online but there already
00:38:59.500is a relationship between the canadian government and pornhub where they kind of go into more
00:39:04.920details to try and hold pornhub accountable for problems having to do with this and there's that
00:39:09.920it's actually more specific but when you look at bill c63 it is so broad it is so it's it's it's
00:39:16.720very clear that it's only just part of the thin veneer of the trojan horse one clear example of
00:39:23.860this go ahead i was gonna say one clear clear one more clear example of this just to kind of drive
00:39:28.600at home they identify seven types of harmful content online that they're going to take away
00:39:34.520and to protect kids online two of them have to do with sex or pornography the other five of them
00:39:41.080are like hate hate speech hate speech terrorism bullying like everything else has to do with
00:39:46.800hate speech and then only like the two of them have the harms are are like you know things things
00:39:51.780that are already illegal and already quickly um you know quickly already taken down off of these
00:39:58.220mainstream big tech platforms anyway i mean sorry one last thing it's maybe it's sort of related
00:40:04.380like the people who wrote this legislation are so ignorant to how the internet even works
00:40:09.160they say hey yeah these big tech platforms we need a way to be able to report stuff
00:40:14.320are you kidding me everybody look on their screen right now you look for the dots look you can
00:40:20.660report everything there already is a report button for the same types of things things that are0.90
00:40:26.140inappropriate photographic whatever like that already exists and these these arrogant obnoxious
00:40:32.400members of parliament are presenting this legislation as if that doesn't exist and that
00:40:37.500they're somehow going to be better than big tech at doing this i mean should we talk about the
00:40:43.560crtc but it's government control right greg i mean they they want the liberals because of the world
00:40:49.680economic forum and all of their associations with the united nations they want they're just
00:40:54.900march into the beat of klaus schwab or whoever is controlling klaus schwab the puppet strings go up
00:40:59.400very high but you know what they're doing is they're trying to gain control this is it's all
00:41:03.520about control what about the mass immigration into our country that nobody ever talks about
00:41:09.840because all we ever hear about open borders is in the united states but what we're hearing lately
00:41:14.300anyway in the last couple of months is that they're concerned about the northern border as well
00:41:18.820becoming a human trafficking zone uh notably through british columbia and quebec
00:41:24.680based upon what happens online and i'm wondering if that has to do
00:41:31.400anything at all with with with this when we talk about human trafficking canada's bad for it and i
00:41:38.820understand that british columbia is probably the worst province uh in the country and maybe one of
00:41:44.520the worst spots in all of north america yeah no you you bring up a a great point which is the the
00:41:51.580even darker more nefarious perspective on this bill which is it would actually help protect
00:41:56.600sexual predators or criminals who are doing criminal things online because you know people
00:42:01.700might expose evidence of a sexual predator they might expose evidence of you know fill in the
00:42:09.740blank criminal behavior and now oh no sorry that's harmful content you need to take that down
00:42:14.600facebook or google or whatever and now all of a sudden evidence has gone missing the story
00:42:18.980the story trails off nobody follows it because they're making they're making the information
00:42:23.140disappear online you're absolutely right to identify that as a potential uh abuse case0.99
00:42:28.880or even if you're a sicko you're a sick depraved uh criminal exploiting canada and and human0.97
00:42:35.100trafficking it's it's a benefit right it's a huge benefit to this bill that you can be insulated by1.00
00:42:40.040these corrupt bureaucrats who are trying to help you get away with it so they can you know fill in
00:42:44.800the blank keep you keep your your trafficking network alive scary thought back to definitely
00:42:51.380scary I want to come back to savefreespeech.ca in just a second because I know that you're
00:42:56.020taking donations to complete this documentary hoping to have it out by early next year and
00:43:00.360again you guys if you haven't seen the first 10 minutes of it Greg said it to me the other day
00:43:04.440put it on the show on Wednesday night is there another place people can see this 10 minute
00:43:08.260segment yeah actually I changed around the home page for you so if you go to savefreespeech.ca
00:43:13.720it should be the video right at the top uh the war war on the canada's war on parents which
00:43:19.520essentially there's a number of topics where free speech is already a huge issue and there's a whole
00:43:25.840system of censorship and suppression and smearing people's reputations and the the big one is
00:43:32.180parents who stand up for their kids parents who stand up for the gender ideology if you're
00:43:36.400effective at this you systemically get called a transphobe homophobe and you know anti-hate does
00:43:42.500this the media does this antifa does this uh journalists do this uh shout outs to rachel
00:43:47.920gilmore uh but you know it's uh it's it's it's already in place and the fact of the matter is
00:43:54.180bill c63 is just the perfect toolkit for these same institutions these same people to not only
00:44:00.820just smear your reputation oh no now you're caught up in a legal battle because of what you said oh
00:44:05.040now you're caught up in being anonymous anonymously reported because of what you said oh now you're
00:44:09.480going to be put on house arrest because of what you said. It's just so it would just be so
00:44:13.360convenient for these control freaks who are really, really want to control people's thoughts
00:44:20.680and feelings to be only that of the far left. And yes, you're right. We are working hard on
00:44:26.420a documentary. We have an award winning filmmaker that it's going to expose all of this. It's going
00:44:31.940to tell the whole story. And I'm really excited for it. I'm really excited for it because people
00:44:37.000need to hear this story and i think it's going to go well beyond uh into america as well because
00:44:41.380we are going to be submitting it to film festivals festivals and everything it's going to be a
00:44:45.100legitimate uh documentary so yeah you know it's it's interesting that you bring up all of that
00:44:51.240stuff because i think what trudeau and and they're talking about doing the same thing you know i mean
00:44:57.820like we've seen the censorship in brazil they've banned x there uh the politicians in the european
00:45:03.240union in the uk i mean they're knocking on people's doors uh for memes and in france it's
00:45:08.540happening as well gavin news and sorry they're they're they're they are arresting people in the
00:45:13.840uk for voicing anti-immigrant sentiment and they're using a bill that recently got passed
00:45:20.400that has something to do it's called like online harms bill it's like one word difference than
00:45:25.680what bill c63 is so people are alarmist that won't happen it's literally happening right now
00:45:31.660in the uk already don't they have i mean this would i'm sure you've looked into this because
00:45:37.340you're doing the documentary on it and you've obviously done tons of research on this would
00:45:41.500this not be and and i understand this might sound like a foolish question because how many times
00:45:46.200have they breached the charter of rights and freedoms in the past four years and just gone
00:45:49.900whatever and then wait for the court challenge that comes maybe three years later but would this
00:45:54.880something like this this bill c63 would this not be an impediment to our free speech which is
00:46:01.000definitely in the charter of rights and freedoms and it wouldn't be covered under section one
00:46:05.460because there is no emergency going on right now so i mean absolutely it would of course
00:46:14.160i guess is my question would it be challengeable in court i i don't even like this line of thinking
00:46:21.180because i how about we just stop it from passing you know how about we just don't even have to deal
00:46:28.140with that and the other thing too is i'm just so cynical these days shadow the dust hasn't even
00:46:34.960settled from the trucker convoy there's still there's still these open-ended dragging on
00:46:40.440cases basically for people who are just standing up for fundamental human rights and and to answer
00:46:46.720your question yeah probably you could make a case of this is a charter violation how much money is
00:46:51.760that going to cost how much time is that going to take it's let's start by honoring honoring what
00:47:00.220it means to be canadian and start really being detested by these politicians and just like not
00:47:06.900accepting it anymore and actually maybe now is a good time to talk about the conservative party
00:47:11.520because they they claim to be pushing back against this bill by making their own bill about online
00:47:19.780harms we're going to push back and and this is the bill that the liberals should have written
00:47:24.200why this upsets me so much is because it is a terrible negotiation tactic if if you were to
00:47:31.580actually be pushing back against bill c63 which you should because the fact that it's even being
00:47:37.220presented in this way with such a violation of our charter rights um is detestable but uh
00:47:43.320actually pushing back would be saying how dare you even present this atrocious bill you're a
00:47:50.340disgrace to democracy by the way we must repeal bill c18 and bill c11 as well that would be
00:47:57.100pushing back because it would be saying this piece of legislation applying to the internet0.65
00:48:00.980is so terrible you guys suck so much by the way we can't even get news on facebook and instagram0.52
00:48:07.480because of your poor legislation also having to do with the internet so let's repeal that as well0.98
00:48:12.580let me ask you have you heard anybody and i the reason i ask is because i have an outside of our
00:48:19.360circle of people i have not heard anybody say hey how come i can't share news on facebook anymore
00:48:26.580like just some average normie i've never ever heard anybody ever complain about that which
00:48:31.640scares me to be honest i mean what is wrong with the people in this country well you know it's
00:48:37.820that's a really great point and the term is the totalitarian tiptoe because even if bill c63
00:48:44.880passes we wouldn't notice it right away it would be this insidious thing where slowly but surely
00:48:51.100like the people on the fringe fringes who maybe don't have a big platform they slowly get picked
00:48:55.800off and they slowly get silenced and like little by little people just kind of get picked off and
00:49:00.480normal people don't even notice they're just walking into the lcbo their shoppers drug mart
00:49:06.360everything is fine it does it doesn't affect my life shadow well that well that the news told me
00:49:12.700that that person was actually bad the news told me that that person was actually a villain okay
00:49:18.700and uh in my nice little world you know like it's it's undisturbed and just to answer your
00:49:25.820direct question there it's because they haven't noticed it's because they're not paying attention
00:49:29.780And it's, and it's done this way by design to make it not seem noticeable, but slowly, but surely the temperature goes up. We start to boil more and more. And by the time the majority of people realize what's happened, it'll be too late because they won't have any rights left. But that's another reason why I want to really make a, make this like a stake in the ground to be like, this is a flashpoint. This needs to be, this needs to be the TSN turning point. Okay. Because like, look what they're trying to do in the future.
00:49:56.780let's start to reverse this and actually start to use our freedom of speech because the other thing
00:50:02.040aside from all this like legislation talk there's there's so many fearful canadians who don't even
00:50:06.900want to use their freedom of speech and now's the time to be like hey guys let's start using it or
00:50:11.080else we will lose it you know it's interesting i think maybe if they barred us from sharing a story
00:50:17.280about a hockey score in a game between the leafs and the canadians one saturday night then people
00:50:22.240would start to get up in arms maybe right well let me share this story the leafs beat the habs0.63
00:50:28.840last night in overtime what the hell's going on here oh you're right yeah no you're i i hate i
00:50:38.140hate how right you are about that it is it is so true you see it everywhere you know people got up
00:50:44.880people only cared about covid when they when they canceled basketball games that's the only time
00:50:51.800that people started paying well they canceled the nba game oh my god maybe this is actually uh
00:50:57.100something real let me let me ask you we're going to come back to save free speech at the end and
00:51:01.720how people can donate and what exactly your plans are and talk about a timeline there you're in
00:51:06.480ottawa today have you been back since the convoy or is this your first time you know what this was
00:51:12.460my first time live streaming on parliament hill since the convoy so that was an interesting
00:51:16.880experience i i have uh driven through ottawa i was at a ppc conference last last month yeah in
00:51:25.220august but this is my first time actually being on parliament hill and it was quite the opposite
00:51:30.020because you know it was it was sunny out today it was hot um but it was yeah it was interesting to
00:51:35.760be back there um i really don't know what else was it like what what was it like i mean it was
00:51:43.100it haunting it was a little bit haunting to to to be walking up wellington street and to be like
00:51:49.740the last time i was here walking on the street there was trucks everywhere or i guess the last
00:51:54.560time i was here i was being shoved by police officers and it was it was such a stain on our
00:52:00.160history um so yeah i guess i guess it was it was a little bit haunting i guess to to walk back
00:52:06.480through that and to like be in the exact same street corner and be like i remember what the
00:52:10.680street corner looked like during the convoy it was totally different from now um i gotta say though
00:52:15.760it what it was inspiring because although the group that came out on ottawa today wasn't
00:52:23.320a million people you know it might have been like 500 to 800 or something like something like this
00:52:28.340but um everyone there had a lot of conviction and a lot of fire and a lot of passion and everybody
00:52:36.600else who you know the tourists and like you know the ottawa people they really don't have that
00:52:41.480they're just they're just going through through the motions you know they're just getting their
00:52:46.080pension and that really is our strength it's not diversity it's it's our fire it's our passion
00:52:52.560it's our conviction for truly wanting to honor what this country is all about and to truly fight
00:52:59.180for it and make sacrifices for it and i'm i'm optimistic uh for the future because there are
00:53:06.120people uh like myself and um the person you had on earlier this week who are starting to kind of
00:53:14.260buckle down and focus and take that passion take that conviction and start to build something
00:53:20.360brick by brick not just a short spur spur of energy but but starting to build something that
00:53:26.500is going to carry us into the future and really going to oppose all of the organizations that are
00:53:33.440attacking us you know our political enemies are you seeing our group get bigger i i noticed a
00:53:41.040sizable change in the last i'm going to say eight to nine months i'm starting to see a lot of new
00:53:46.960names and a lot of new faces coming to the show here on all of the different platforms and this
00:53:52.880is a you know it's a surprise sometimes because you feel like okay we've hit our limit which is
00:53:57.840is kind of a sad thing but then i see all these new names like there's a name i have never heard
00:54:04.360or seen tonight there's a marie in in the comments right now devon harper is watching tonight how
00:54:10.080you doing devon good to have you with uh but there there's all kinds of new people that are
00:54:15.600flooding in have you noticed that out in the gta you know i have i have because the quality of life
00:54:23.340can continues to dwindle and i love this quote it it was um you know you you may not care about
00:54:32.180politics but politics cares about you and one of these days politics is going to come knocking on
00:54:38.120your door in some form and it's going to disrupt your life and you're going to start to care
00:54:43.680because you're going to be forced to care because it's going to um it's going to disrupt your
00:54:49.060worldview of oh i thought everything was hunky-dory here oh maybe this is corruption maybe
00:54:54.280this is dishonesty what's and slowly but surely people are trickling in i think simply because
00:54:59.360of that whether it's the cost of living whether it's uh you know the mass migration the housing
00:55:05.080crisis the the the job market um and i think a big one of course is the gender ideology in schools
00:55:13.940and how patently absurd that is and how there's just no balancing conversation on the television
00:55:20.520whatsoever let's talk about that you you were at the million person march in ottawa today that's
00:55:25.140why you're there and you said five to eight hundred people what were there counter protesters out i
00:55:30.160know that ottawa's filled with them yeah you know what it wasn't that bad there was in the morning
00:55:35.660but there was only about like 50 or 60 of them um so it wasn't too too too big of a too big of a
00:55:41.980an issue i guess so uh i i know that they've or you know what it probably was they probably
00:55:47.580couldn't get that union money to pay people to be out there maybe it was just the people who
00:55:51.100were unpaid out there maybe that's why they had such low numbers then again it was a nice it was
00:55:55.960a nice friday as well you know near the end of the summer could have been people just wanting to
00:55:59.640enjoy the weather and i don't really blame them to be honest but there are all kinds of people
00:56:04.280out there i mean like we heard uh from i forget the guy's organizer's name now what's his name
00:56:09.340yeah camille el chic yeah camille el chic yeah he said there's people like we have muslims we've
00:56:16.340got jewish people coming out we've got people of all colors and cultures and beliefs and and
00:56:22.740was it like that yeah i'd say so yeah um yeah there's a number of muslim families yeah diverse
00:56:32.100backgrounds sure um yeah encouraged by it i mean i'm looking at your face and you're like
00:56:38.300hmm i don't know maybe it could have been bigger i'm of course it could have been of course it
00:56:44.140could have been bigger of course it could always be bigger um but what i love about what camille
00:56:49.080is doing with this is that he's looking at the long term and you know things could have been
00:56:53.280better and he's learning from his mistakes and he's gonna he's gonna improve it for for next time
00:56:57.000uh what's important is that like i said the people there have the fire and they and they
00:57:01.960have the passion and they're focused on the long term they realize that it's a long-term fight and
00:57:08.120they have that in mind so they're not just doing these short bursts of energy like i said that
00:57:13.500they are building something that's going to be uh something to be reckoned with and i brought this
00:57:19.820up on our earlier conversation which is you know there's not many organizations that are truly
00:57:26.580resisting what's going on there are people who profit off of it and sensationalize it
00:57:31.540rebel news and and maybe to a lesser extent true north but it's like who is actually meaningfully
00:57:38.120pushing back against this to a successful result? Because let's face it, I have this
00:57:45.560little organization called SaveFreeSpeech.ca, which I started a few months ago. What about
00:57:50.480the climate change issue? Do you think there's a few climate change organizations that support
00:57:55.620left-wing parties and far-left parties? There's dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens and
00:58:00.500dozens of them. Name any other issue. Name the transgender indoctrination issue. There's EGAL
00:58:06.080Canada you have you know pride this pride that there's there's dozens and dozens and dozens of
00:58:11.380organizations that are professionals that have their own board members that have their own
00:58:15.280academics working for them we we need to start building that same infrastructure on our side
00:58:22.120on our beliefs on what we believe in and here's the here's the benefit guys here's here's the
00:58:27.140great part we have the truth on our side we have righteousness on our side so that is true Greg but
00:58:32.680I mean, as we build brick by brick, as you say, I think that's fantastic.
00:58:36.440First of all, I don't want to sit here and sound like I'm poo-pooing on it because I'm not.
00:58:40.040I mean, we need people doing this stuff.
00:58:43.760And every time we see a plan, you know, Maggie pointed this out last night, agenda 2030, 2030, plan 2050.
00:58:51.960Maybe if it's 2050, if we can, you know, push back on them enough that they have to keep putting back their plans and anger them and, you know, cut by death by a thousand cuts.
00:59:02.020or just act like a swarm of mosquitoes on them or something,
00:59:04.960and we continue to be able to push back on them,
00:59:08.640maybe we'll have the time to, you know, gather the foundation