00:05:25.160And essentially, the Emergencies Act plays into what's going on right now.
00:05:33.140Marco is going to explain it all to us in just a few moments.
00:05:37.520I'm not sure, and I'm going to press him.
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00:05:45.120But we're going to ask him if there's any more information that's been revealed
00:05:50.020in regards to what actually happened with the RCMP,
00:05:53.960the crown prosecution and the judge because that in itself could blow this thing sky high
00:06:01.640and the corruption of our judicial system now is very very much in play possibly possibly so marco
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00:12:25.960tonight hello marco thank you for coming on the show tonight on short notice i know you've been
00:12:30.340busy you've been in pre-trial with with i guess the coots too now this week are you down in
00:12:35.840lethbridge right now or you back home uh back home i live um just over half hour away from
00:12:42.060lethbridge to the west for mcleod so okay so i commute every day yeah correct so uh can you
00:12:49.260give us an update first of all we know that i'm gonna throw these this western standard piece up
00:12:55.400on the screen for people right now uh this came out a couple of weeks ago Chris Carbert Anthony
00:13:01.080Olenek still in lockup Jerry Morin and Christopher Lysak are out now have you had any contact with
00:13:08.180the two that are that are out and how are they dealing with life in real society again
00:13:12.540so I haven't had any contact with Jerry Morin but I have had considerable contact with Chris Lysak
00:13:21.140I actually went for lunch with him today, and I went for lunch with him yesterday, and I've probably seen him almost half a dozen or probably over a half a dozen times.
00:13:35.440Considering what he's gone through, 723 days of remand, that's the amount of time that Chris Lysak served.
00:13:48.080um i'm almost a little concerned as to how well he's doing he's um integrating back into society
00:13:55.340and um is it like nothing ever happened marco i wouldn't say that i wouldn't say that he's uh
00:14:03.620um but it's like has he has he intimated to you any kind of ptsd from all of this does he wake
00:14:11.460up at night like looking around for something or anything no no none of that and
00:14:17.300And to be fair, I haven't had a lot of private time with him.
00:14:22.420Just the first day I went with him to get his, he had issues with his cell phone provider that were unresolved.
00:14:30.960So I had a spare and I went to a provider and got that working for him so that he could deal with business and get in contact with people.
00:14:41.260You know, we do live in a day and age where a cell phone is critical.
00:14:44.280That was the only time I've really spent with him privately.
00:14:47.300Most everything else has been in a group, so it's not a topic that's been on the table in relation to, you know, how are you really doing.
00:14:55.760But not that I'm aware of. I think some of this may come, some of the potential trauma, anger, and mental side effects that have to do with the experience and the injustice of the experience that he has been part of.
00:15:24.140so there are people his friends and myself included that are definitely keeping a bit of
00:15:30.060an eye on that to make sure that when when when this stuff you know he's still working on bringing
00:15:36.260things back to a normal setting right there's there's work to be done but once the the modane
00:15:41.960of of light you know just happens then he could start to experience some of this when um at that
00:15:51.020time so we want to make sure that the resources are there and that there are people there for him
00:15:55.320um if that ever presents itself so but at this point he's doing um and he wouldn't want me
00:16:02.100talking about him and he definitely doesn't want to be talked about because that's who chris is
00:16:05.560he he texted me yesterday he's like i'm coming for lunch when court was adjourned for lunch and
00:16:11.640we went across the street to a restaurant and he showed up and i had said oh there's a few other
00:16:16.340people here and he just said you know i'm nothing special he says and i'm like well i understand
00:16:21.220what you're saying uh and i've interacted with him on to some degree on the daily for a long
00:16:28.060a long long time so um you know but a lot of people rightfully so but they view him as as a
00:16:36.520hero of sorts and he just doesn't really know what to do with that attention so uh um i guess
00:16:43.340if that's the worst thing he's experiencing at this point the extra extra attention and the
00:16:47.960unwanted attention then we can be thankful but i do believe there will be some uh side effects
00:16:54.360or consequences that that he will have to deal with um either i would like to get him on the
00:17:00.100show marco what one of these uh you know and i understand that he doesn't want his face out there
00:17:05.240and i'm nothing special and all that and some people don't handle the public adulation all
00:17:08.960that well but people do want to hear from the horse's mouth you know what they went through
00:17:15.800in there and maybe i mean like you say it's going to take some time for that kind of thing to come
00:17:21.140out um why no why no contact with jerry is is that a whole separate issue that you can't talk about
00:17:27.640no i i never did i never had contact with jerry okay so i've mentioned this before but
00:17:34.700Chris and Chris were friends since elementary, since grade school.
00:17:40.000Chris Carver and Chris Lysak, they're both from Lethbridge, from the north side.
00:19:51.220And in being in contact with Chris, the advice that Chris was given and the position that we have taken and he has taken based on this advice is that until the prosecutions of all four have been completed, it is advised, they have been advised not to do any interviews, not to do any media, etc.
00:20:13.740There's no conditions on their pleas or on their release, but at this point, they want to be safe.
00:20:22.040That's the position that council has advised.
00:20:24.980So Daniel Song has advised Chris to take, and Chris is more than willing to take that position at this time.
00:20:32.200He does understand that there will come a time where his story will, you know, people will want to hear parts of the story about him or get to know him.
00:20:45.460He has met with a lot of people one on one, right, or people come to meet him, things like that.
00:20:50.220But there is a large audience provincially, nationally and even internationally that I think would like to have to some degree some closure on this.
00:21:00.420And kind of a, here's a bit of an example.
00:21:08.040If you follow his Facebook page, he did daily updates.
00:21:12.640And he documented at times small details throughout his day from what was for lunch, what was for breakfast, what he did, the calls he made, things like that.
00:21:21.280And it was, it became part of our day.
00:21:25.400It became part of my day to read about Chris's updates.
00:21:29.480Sometimes they were lengthy. Sometimes I didn't have all the time in the world.
00:21:32.840If I talked to him for 20 minutes, I didn't necessarily need to read his update.
00:23:09.620There's a lot of things being revealed.
00:23:12.180There's a lot of exposure to this, even just what happened today.
00:23:15.840and that the big reveal that we'll get to is on the other side of the country.
00:23:23.160It is so connected to these men, not by name,
00:23:30.200but to what these men were alleged to have done and alleged to have had
00:23:35.180and how that all transpired, that indirectly,
00:23:38.960you know being that the EMA is such a such a high profile issue still is um it indirectly
00:23:47.360brings a lot of attention to these these remaining two men of coots four so that's
00:23:52.320that's great you know I was just on the phone with Chris um he uh you know we talked once or
00:23:58.760twice a day and uh during court one so he called me and I took the call because I knew I wasn't
00:24:03.460going to have time before 9 30 so and I said hey I'm going on a show and kind of told him the
00:24:08.260details is okay cool and um they live through the people that call at this point you understand like
00:24:14.340you know a day in court is great because it's a change in scenery but most days are very systematic
00:24:20.780so they live through the 20 minute phone calls that they're allowed to make and little details
00:24:25.160that are like okay i went to go do chores he'll ask like five questions about what that all entails
00:24:30.600because to him he's visualizing that these men are visualizing what we're doing what things look like
00:24:36.540Because for them, it's become a very boring, very not dreadful, but I mean, well, it is a dreadful place, but it's it's limited.
00:24:44.520There's no. They don't need to focus on anything. Everything gets done for them.
00:24:48.640They have their they have their rule. They have their schedule. That's it.
00:24:51.640It's very essentially it's boring. Right.
00:24:53.760So are they are they like sweeping floors? Do they have jobs to do or is it just a matter of sitting in a cell all day long?
00:25:00.520Well, jobs, well, there's a schedule, but jobs are, there's not as many jobs as are necessarily inmates. So jobs is something that an individual longs for, but isn't always available. I think Chris, based on his seniority, being in remand.
00:25:19.160seniority it's funny you should well it's on court it's it's it's it's true he's been in there
00:25:25.660738 days yeah right he's been there 738 days he's been there he's he's the one he's the longest one
00:25:33.420there so um the guards have tremendous respect for him as you know outside of their their role as
00:25:41.500guard versus inmate but i mean he uh he has roles he has things to do he leads a bible study he does
00:25:49.780things but again those phone calls that he makes are are uh are his his way out or his his daily
00:25:59.060ability to to leave those four walls even if does does he have internet access is there any way that
00:26:04.940he can just go on to some social media and see what's going on in the world is that allowed
00:32:54.240So the evidence that is being presented through pretrial, through witnesses on the stand, I'm not disputing any of that necessarily at this point in relation to the connection that I drew to Ottawa.
00:33:11.360What I've done today and what I've been on for a while, and I think you've followed some of that in the last couple of weeks, is that Ottawa used this for more than what it was.
00:36:56.400But I became aware of evidence or testimony of RCMP officers or members of the RCMP, and it's not about them, but it's about what the evidence is.
00:37:11.740And the evidence is that the RCMP had no visual, factual, or sorry, visual, physical, and factual proof of weapons slash or firearms at the Coutts blockade until they executed, until the ERT, Emergency Response Team, executed warrants.
00:37:41.740So when they actually executed their search warrants, that is when they had physical proof of their being legal.
00:37:52.120But, you know, Ottawa termed it as weapons, but legal firearms.
00:37:56.320That is when they were able to claim and to prove to the public, and not that they need to prove it, but to then follow through with their charges and their arrests that, yes, there were guns at Coutts.
00:38:17.580This was not necessarily at the blockade in its proximity, but I won't specify that either.
00:38:22.460That's not what we're discussing here today.
00:38:24.420This was not proven until, I don't have the exact time, but between 1230 and 1 o'clock a.m. on February the 14th, Mount Standard Time.
00:38:43.260So at 12.30 in the morning, somewhere between 12.30 and 1.30, they executed the search warrant at the location where these firearms were found.
00:38:56.900At that time, they would have had physical proof, evidence of firearms.
00:39:04.400okay so now that we've established that from there on okay they have their proof they have
00:39:09.900their evidence they go through documentation bagging tagging you name it and here we are
00:39:20.300a day and even a more than a day before that on the other side of the country in ottawa was
00:39:29.660What was happening was the sequence of events that led toward the invocation of the Emergencies Act and the steps that had to be taken by those involved leading up to the 1.41 p.m. Eastern Standard Time announcement, press announcement by Justin Trudeau.
00:39:54.420You know, the infamous, it will be infamous, it is infamous, announcement by Justin Trudeau, flanked by his masked warriors, sorry, not relevant, but at 1.41 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, where the public became aware that this government, this prime minister had invoked the Emergencies Act.
00:40:21.400so 1 41 eastern standard time is 11 41 um mountain standard time we're two hours behind
00:40:34.220ottawa right and that that that you know real time here is two hours ahead there or
00:40:39.160two hours behind if you're in ottawa that's what i got you okay i just want to establish these
00:40:43.780details so the time that the rcmp first had or had their physical evidence when they executed
00:40:56.580these warrants it would have been from midnight to 1 1 30 on the 14th mountain standard time
00:41:05.880that that would have been um 12 hours or 11 hours before the invocation of the emergencies act
00:41:16.240correct correct no no no it would have been um 11 41 mountain standard time february 14th
00:41:48.080So they would have had that proof 11 hours before the public announcement, before the press conference.
00:41:53.900But that is hardly relevant anymore. That's just me. That's just extra information that we're all aware of. What has since become public information through the public inquiry, which is automatically triggered when you invoke, it's built into the legislation of the Emergencies Act is that you have to have a public inquiry.
00:42:12.660And that public inquiry has to be tabled in Parliament 300 and almost a little less than two years after the invocation of the Act.
00:42:23.880I think it was, they would have had to table it February 20th, 2023, and they tabled it February 17th, 2023.
00:42:31.220Also not necessarily critical information, but it's there.
00:42:34.440What's really critical is the evidence and the testimony that was made by officials, cabinet ministers, bureaucrats in Ottawa in the lead up to the invocation of the Act and the actual invocation of the Act and what was all done, what steps were all taken in that process.
00:43:03.840And I'm going to start it in, I'm going to start on February the 13th in Ottawa.
00:43:13.780And it doesn't necessarily specify the time here, but through this event, it does at certain times.
00:43:27.580Oh, sorry, I got to get the right thing here.
00:43:29.240There is a phone call by past, so previous Commissioner Brenda Luckey, to previous, these people have all been removed and demoted, which tells you something as well, previous Emergency Management Minister Marco Medicino.
00:43:52.740And the purpose of this call, sorry, I want to get word for word here.
00:52:39.280I don't know how Justice Mosley and such took that information, but they still, I believe the POEC was considered and the testimony of the POEC was taken into account.
00:52:54.660because i testified and you did swear an oath to testify uh according to uh well to to affirm or to
00:53:03.780to swear um on the bible what you're on the bible that what you're like what you're testifying is
00:53:10.720truthful and i'm not saying that it was either dude i mean like i gotta stop you here and say
00:53:17.080look at justin trudeau said he never lied to canadians about the vaccine during that commission
00:53:21.920so i mean there i'm sure there were lies flying all over the place therefore when you talk about
00:53:28.780lies flying all over the place in this public order emergency commission you can't take any
00:53:33.140of that stuff seriously and use it to get we are they are taking it seriously and right credibility
00:53:38.820of this government like good me we know there's no credibility we like if anything we know this
00:53:45.260government shouldn't even be here but there are still uh canadians that believe there is and
00:53:51.000apparently there hasn't been a scandal big enough yet to to take down this government well the way
00:53:56.920i see this is this is a huge scandal this is bigger than the arrive cam issue this is members
00:54:06.180of cabinet using false information and i'm not saying that justin trudeau used what he was0.95
00:54:11.580informed on but i'm sorry in this case shit runs uphill if it this is justin trudeau's
00:54:17.940responsibility to make sure that he has the right people in the right position to make sure that the0.91
00:54:21.880information he gets is factual especially when it comes to to undermining the constitutional
00:54:27.840rights of canadians they're using they're using fake guns non-existent weapons at a time
00:54:35.720based on the timeline people say oh well six hours later they did find them that doesn't matter
00:54:40.340when we go back like this this this inquiry was going back in time to establish if the
00:54:47.220justification was was real it wasn't they used coots they used the volatile quote volatile
00:54:54.360situation in coots as a catalyst as not the only not exclusively but as one of the main catalysts
00:55:02.520to implement the emergencies act and if i work my if i work my way through this here so then you
00:55:08.000know marco medicino now hears about the hardened cell armed to the teeth with firearms who will go
00:55:13.600down for the cause. What cause? Well, that's not relevant at this point, but a cause.
00:55:18.760Minister Minocino testified that this was most serious, and this was the most serious and urgent
00:55:24.140moment in the blockade so far. Okay, that says something. Minister of Emergency Management saying
00:55:30.100this is the most critical moment in the blockades and protests so far. He told Commissioner Lucky
00:55:36.700that he could not keep the information entirely to himself. He had to at least inform the Prime
00:56:09.340real at this point they're they're not real nobody in in in coots nobody in the rcmp
00:56:16.880has physically laid hands or eyes on any kind of firearms and i'm not going to say weapons anyways
00:56:25.780wait a minute when when this is this is the day before he declared the emergency act
00:56:32.360Correct. This is the 13th. This is the 13th of February 2022. And here's a timestamp. So the IRG, the incident group, sorry, the incident response group, this was a group set up of senior officials, cabinet ministers, etc. I think on February the 7th in relation to all the protests across the country.
00:56:53.000This was kind of the group set up to deal with the national crisis that in some way maybe we were experiencing as a result of the Trudeau leadership.
00:57:04.220Anyways, they may disagree with me on my explanation of that.
00:57:07.320But there was an incident response group.
00:57:11.440That group convened on February 13th at 4 p.m., right?
00:58:59.300So it's still not the 14th in COOTS either, right?
00:59:03.380So I'm not going to go into too much detail what was all said, but the conclusion coming out of the meeting was that the prime minister should call a meeting of the full cabinet to discuss the possibility, even though, and then that meeting was called for 8.30 p.m. that evening.
00:59:17.780So we're still in the 13th of February.
01:03:43.880The conclusion coming out of the IRG meeting, this is testified, was that the Prime Minister, oh sorry, by the end of the February 13th IRG meeting, there was consensus around the table that the Emergencies Act was necessary.
01:04:00.140Prime Minister Trudeau noted that although consensus was not necessary, it was significant.
01:04:04.180um and here's quote i would have said thank you i would have taken that into account but i didn't
01:04:12.040need uh i didn't need full consent consensus in order to make the determination
01:04:18.460and in this case there was consensus around the table that invoking the emergencies act
01:04:24.440was what we needed to do what happened after that was just the steps which took some time
01:04:30.040you know this being now 8 30 p.m it would have i believe by the next morning 8 30 there's the
01:04:38.920first minister's meeting the decision's made he's announcing it the public isn't aware of it yet he's
01:04:44.000now taking the steps to announce it to the premiers to announce it to the the caucus right
01:04:48.860the liberal caucus was made aware but the decision's been made right do we have notes to that
01:04:55.120effect do we have proof to that effect that's where this is going to be key right because the
01:04:59.480announcement and and this is very good point that you make just just now marco when you said that
01:05:04.460he made the announcement at 1 41 p.m eastern time on february the 14th he had already decided that
01:05:11.460he was going to invoke this the day before the day before they found the or hours before they
01:05:16.440found the gun stash correct correct yeah so i'm just looking for that right here so what we need
01:05:24.100now is is the smoking gun if you'll pardon the expression and this is a report this is a write-up
01:05:34.000on on everything there is all the evidence you know this is a public inquiry there's a there's
01:05:39.720a there's a pile of evidence this evidence is here so to bring the receipts you know to say
01:05:47.740prove it well based on this in in in a different part of this you know there will be proof
01:05:55.340written testimony um actual time stamps layouts of what happened because before the first minister's
01:06:05.160meeting before the caucus meeting before the cabinet meeting the decision was made
01:09:08.760Quote, there was some political pressure from the federal government at some level.
01:09:14.220And whether it was an actual conversation that say they were directed, I can't say that.
01:09:20.340but I mean there was a lot of pressure because let's face it they had this thing going on in
01:09:25.780Ottawa at the same time and they needed tools to be able to shut that down so there was a
01:09:32.280poet there was pressure from Ottawa to give them the tools but what would you think is in in this
01:09:40.900whole conversation what do you feel is the description of them using the word tool to me
01:09:47.240that would be evidence or information that is so serious in nature that it gives them reason
01:09:53.180or justification to implement the emergencies that so these guns and the story around the guns
01:10:00.900and the hardened cell of individuals and the volatility of the coups blockade i was there i
01:10:05.720survived it's a miracle i survived you know based on this testimony of of our leaders it's a miracle
01:10:11.900we all survived um but i mean they were aware that ottawa was was looking for tools they wanted
01:10:22.560tools ottawa what was happening in ottawa was embarrassing for ottawa they didn't give a rat's0.92
01:10:28.060ass about coots that was kenny's problem they probably had a good chuckle about it but it was0.97
01:10:32.120serious enough right it's an international border the americans weren't happy about it they're pissed
01:10:36.800off but in comparison to the ambassador bridge or emerson or sorry the ambassador bridge or
01:10:42.520windsor or ottawa or emerson for that matter emerson's number four crossing in the entire
01:10:47.480country coots is kind of a relatively small one compared to all of the others you just mentioned
01:10:52.140exactly it's 10 million dollars less or there's there's 10 million dollars less of goods that
01:10:59.320flow between through coots than emerson but it's a big one for alberta it's a big one for the west
01:11:04.520and it's still a national POE port of entry but it was a problem for Kenny and the and the and
01:11:12.820Ottawa but if there was an order it would be number three or four on the list but based on
01:11:18.180its length volatility and things like that it became number one at times and at this time it
01:11:25.560was definitely number one because it gave them reason to be able to effectively deal with Ottawa
01:11:31.400because we know that's what happened the authority given to the government under the ema was not used
01:11:37.600in coots none of it none of it there was nothing bank accounts weren't seized nothing like that
01:11:42.940there was no extra officers we agreed to on the morning of the 14th to lift the blockade and to
01:11:48.860be completely gone uh by the morning of the 15th and inhabit that it looked like we were never there
01:11:57.480other than an oil stain on the highway.
01:12:00.480But Ottawa, later that week on the 16th or 17th, no, 18th,
01:12:05.560they definitely used the powers given to them under the Act
01:12:09.200to stomp, literally, on the constitutional rights of Canadians.
01:12:14.660So we knew this for a while, that Coutts was the catalyst,
01:12:19.760a main cause or a main reason on the implementation of the Act.
01:12:23.340But now we're seeing and we're hearing that the reasons and the evidence that the liberal government used to sell to themselves and to others to validate the act was false.
01:12:47.260At that point in time, at that time, that was false information.
01:12:52.000So we've already now, two years later, yes, the Rulo Commission justified it, which no surprise there, Commissioner Rulo said it wasn't a clear, there wasn't clear reasons, but it was definitely clear enough that it was justified and I won't, I don't have his comments in front of me.
01:13:12.960Is there any way, Marco, that we can use this information in the upcoming, well, the current pre-trial and the possible trials that are going to be in June? Would this information help all four of the Coutts guys?
01:13:31.300I don't believe that because what happened in Coutts happened.
01:13:36.700And that will, like I said, I'm not going to speak to some of that,
01:13:39.920but that's coming out in the wash through pretrial, through trial.
01:13:43.280It didn't happen the way the Crown and the media and the government said it happened.
01:13:50.580That's become quite apparent three weeks ago.
01:13:54.040We've seen a conspiracy charge, a mischief charge, and a uttering threats charge dropped, completely dropped. All the charges on the initial indictment for Chris Lysak were dropped, and he pled guilty to the improper storage of a restricted firearms charge.
01:14:12.420he pled guilty to a mistake a mistake that if he would have made outside of coots would have never
01:14:21.220had him spend one day in jail it would have been a fine it would have been a license suspension on
01:14:27.500on restricted or even non-restrict or non-restrict or restricted and non-restricted firearms but it
01:14:32.200never landed him in jail but he was he what he did do he spent 723 days in in remand on charges
01:14:57.480But I believe that Ottawa, the DOJ, Department of Justice,
01:15:01.700Crown Attorneys in Alberta, the RCMP in Alberta,
01:15:04.440And others conspired to, not to create, you know, not to fabricate the guns, but they conspired around slightly factual information and built on that with the tallest tail that Canadians would never question, or, you know, for long periods of time, never questioned.
01:15:32.040because that's serious like wow these people were crazy they're looking you know this was such a big
01:15:37.160charge and such a big narrative that there's no way they made this up they would never dare do
01:15:43.160that that's what we all thought i thought it too i thought holy moly now is there some truth to it
01:15:49.900yes maybe five or ten percent and they built off of that and we now see that falling apart
01:15:55.640So now the truth that they used to justify everything they've done in Ottawa is falling apart.
01:16:06.160So what they did in Ottawa is not only unconstitutional based on the Mosley ruling, but we're talking scandal.
01:18:05.960Here's something else for you to consider.
01:18:07.700I've recently become aware of certain efforts by a group of conservative affiliated people in this country to quash any kind of grassroots movement or movements that happened in the last three years based upon the fact that provincial governments, including conservative ones, were complicit, as is the Alberta government,
01:18:58.300Well, this would possibly undermine any remaining, or this would undermine any remaining trust that there is in government period. And, you know, CPC, Liberals, they're all government. They're sitting, you know, they're complicit.
01:19:16.240How was Pierre Poiliev privy to some of this?
01:22:36.400Like, and there could be sealing orders to make sure that the way they behave and such doesn't become public until a court hears this or uses this.
01:22:45.940But for this to never become public, why would the conversation between the Crown and the RCMP never be available to the public?
01:22:53.140So now we're talking about the contents of that envelope still.
01:22:56.180That too, yeah, that application is one of those.
01:22:58.620And that is something that I hope is getting challenged in the near future.
01:23:01.940There is, in this case, there is Marxist Corporate Media, thankfully has some integrity left, but I have connections there, and they are actually very interested in this application.
01:23:14.080And the fact that this was, what this was, and I'll quickly run through this, there was a witness on the stand in previous pretrial applications who was testifying on information relevant to their role.
01:23:33.900and the defense realized that they never had the background information
01:24:01.040And you guys, if you're all Access members at ShadowDavis.com, you'll be able to continue following the conversation I'm having with Marco Van Heugenboss right now.
01:24:11.340He's going to talk about, possibly talk about getting the contents of that envelope that's been sealed for the last while, opened somehow.
01:24:19.400And if that does happen, this case will definitely fall apart.
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