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00:09:54.840Please welcome to the show, Cosman Jirja.
00:09:57.740I hope I said your name properly, Cosman, because I'm really happy to have you on the show tonight.
00:10:02.620Yeah, you got it pretty much right. Jirja, that's correct.
00:10:05.540Jirja, and you are the senior researcher with TNC.news, formerly of the Post Millennial.
00:10:11.840You've got many years of experience on the ground reporting stories.
00:10:16.260And, you know, we've been seeing a lot of Antifa lately, I guess since June started, you know, Rainbow Month.
00:10:23.180The Antifa has been showing up at all of the school protests across the country, more specifically in Ottawa, especially last Friday.
00:10:31.600You are very steeped in the knowledge of Antifa and you've got a couple of great stories to tell tonight.
00:10:38.440First, let me ask you, when are you going to finish that three part series that you started three years ago?
00:10:43.980Well, you're putting me on the spot here.
00:10:48.020I don't think you've got a family and you've got things to do.
00:10:50.000Now you're reminding my employer they're going to bring it up.
00:10:53.180Soon. I would like to finish. But it's one of these things where it's a it's an evolving story. And, you know, I don't think it's going to end anytime soon. And we were talking a little bit before we started here on the live stream about how Antifa kind of seems to resurface when these political tensions get to a certain point.
00:11:17.300And for a while, you know, I find that the Antifa activity kind of simmered down a little bit throughout the pandemic.
00:11:26.780You know, you did see their presence at some of these protests, but they were just totally outsized by some of those, you know, anti-lockdown protests.
00:11:35.860And they really do rely on intimidation.
00:11:39.360So they really thrive when people aren't united.
00:11:45.460And I think that's the case here. But there's a growing backlash to the gender ideology stuff. And the latest instance we saw them come out, you know, from their caves was this Ottawa protest, where, quite frankly, you know, I think they made a fool of themselves.1.00
00:12:04.600They acted like thugs and buffoons. And I think people who see this realize what they are and their tactics. And the legacy media doesn't want to show people what these individuals are doing, how they behave, how they treat those that they disagree with.0.98
00:12:24.060Let me ask you, there's so many different stories about the origins of this group. Do they go back to the Stasi in Germany in World War II, or do they go further back than that? I've been hearing stories about their origins being even in the Winnipeg general strike back in 1919.
00:12:41.120right well you know i'm not a historian but uh from my understanding it does come from germany
00:12:49.720um the the winnipeg stuff that's actually the the first i i heard about that and i'd be
00:12:55.000interested in looking into that more but uh you know historically they do go back but i i think
00:13:01.740that the modern incarnation is is quite relatively recent you know uh i would probably say in the
00:13:10.380in the 2010s they really came out uh in in a much more pronounced manner now you for example in
00:13:19.500quebec they've been around for quite a while they have these mayday protests uh where all these
00:13:24.520marxists and and antifa anarchists come out you know smash buildings uh windows uh harass businesses
00:13:32.280uh scuffle with police so they've they've been around quite some time uh but they're they're
00:13:39.280constantly evolving and they're they're getting more brazen and emboldened when they first came
00:13:47.720back i mean like you know your article points out that we hadn't really heard of them until about 10
00:13:52.960years ago and we didn't even know what to call them at that time could it be they were born again
00:13:57.420through uh the sit-in wall street movement uh 10 years ago is that about right yeah i think there
00:14:04.700was definitely something going on uh with the the occupy wall street stuff that was a that's quite an
00:14:11.020interesting thing to look into because there's also you know suspected um sort of intelligence
00:14:17.660involvement in in maneuvering and like dividing that group uh because of you know it was it was a
00:14:24.420a legitimate protest to some degree against the greed in in in wall street right uh and in in the
00:14:31.460finance and banking system. So yeah, I think that is definitely a remarkable point in their
00:14:40.620history. And then also, of course, the election of Donald Trump was just turbocharged the entire
00:14:50.340thing and propelled them into everybody's home, essentially. Everybody was seeing them on the TV,
00:14:57.700They were seeing them throughout the presidency, and it really made it a household thing where people are like, yes, we know who Antifa is.
00:15:24.220They even actually take their side on occasion.
00:15:27.380I was Googling Antifa in Canada today, and the first two pages are filled with left-wing corporate media stories about how they're really anti-fascists.
00:15:36.400They're groups who are against the right-wing extremist movement, which I have yet to see in Canada, by the way,
00:15:42.380even though Justin Trudeau and his minions keep talking about the fact that that is the number one terrorist issue that we have in our country,
00:15:49.920right-wing extremism and white supremacy and nationalism and all of those things you bigots
00:15:55.680by the way so um is the media in on it i mean how pervasive is this movement are there antifa
00:16:05.900members in every establishment in our country so uh you know is the entire i mean the media is not
00:16:13.840stupid cosmon you know you rub shoulders with these people when you're covering stories you
00:16:18.100know that these are at least some of them are intelligent people. They've been through, you1.00
00:16:23.060know, journalism school, they understand what journalism is, and yet they continue promoting
00:16:27.220this nonsense. So, you know, you've been in the media industry for a while, I think a lot of it
00:16:32.680comes down to editorial decision making, partially as well as a sort of silent understanding of how
00:16:42.220to frame these things it might not be an explicit you know oh don't don't talk about antifa but i
00:16:48.740think there is an understanding among people uh in the corporate media uh of what to touch and
00:16:54.760how to present it how to package it um and i i honestly think it's to the their own detriment
00:17:01.220that they refuse to expose uh the extreme things the violence the the calls to violence the criminal
00:17:10.020acts because they've been the like legacy media journalists have been the target of antifa before
00:17:16.400uh in the quebec in quebec i think this was like 2014 or even prior to that i one of these
00:17:22.260i think it was one of the mayday protests like global news journalists got pushed down the
00:17:28.360stairs uh they had their cameras broken you know we've seen it in toronto with them attacking
00:17:33.600toronto sun photographers and journalists there so it it is to the detriment of the legacy media
00:17:41.000because by not uh providing coverage and honest coverage and just exposing what's going on
00:17:47.340constantly they are emboldening these individuals they're making the problem worse uh they're making
00:17:55.800them uh feel uh more courageous in their acts and it's it's only going to accelerate even further
00:18:03.860When we see these people acting out the way they do at protests, and I guess you pointed out the most recent one at the school protest in Ottawa on Friday, especially that one that you and I had a little bit of correspondence about earlier today.
00:18:30.000You've been involved with these people.0.91
00:18:32.180You've been close up to them. You've had the sirens blare in your ears. You've had the umbrellas stuck in your face. You've you've been jostled around by them in the streets. How is it they are actually responsible for their actions here? Do they lose their minds for an hour and then go back to being normal people? Or are they like this all the time?
00:18:50.960Yeah, this was quite a few years ago when I was still in university. I had, you know, the misfortune of attending protests and, you know, coming across Antifa and, you know, having, you know, facing off with them.
00:19:07.460And as you said, you know, they put blowhorns in your ear. They try to surround you, intimidate you. They'll even grab you.
00:19:13.780You know, luckily, I've been able to escape the worst as, you know, some people have been seriously injured. But as for, you know, how can they do this? Well, I think it's partially to do with crowd psychology when you're in a group of, you know, masked people who feel that they can't be identified.
00:19:35.360They have some sense that the police are not going to intervene because they don't vast majority of the time in this country, which is a huge shame and a shameful mark on the on the credit of our police forces.
00:19:50.080And also, you know, these are individuals who openly express and believe in revolutionary ideas, radical ideologies.
00:20:00.000They encourage drug use. You know, they encourage the sex trade.
00:20:06.860So they're definitely not what we would call virtuous people.0.99
00:20:10.700So it's no surprise that they behave like animals out there.
00:20:16.400You know, I played the video last night or the night before.
00:20:20.220I guess I had Maxime Bernier on the show last night.
00:20:22.500And there's that one video of the older lady with the walker walking up to one of his rallies a couple of years ago.
00:20:35.140She stood in this old lady's way, wouldn't let her go.0.90
00:20:38.100And I'm just wondering whose daughter that was.
00:20:40.860Like, how do they actually live with themselves acting that way?
00:20:46.400Yeah, you know, that's a question for that individual. I couldn't imagine myself doing that to an elderly person who I've been taught to respect, you know, all my life.
00:20:58.340So it's definitely a disconnect of values and partially, you know, the ideological rejection of societal conventions, which they see as like colonial or capitalist or whatever, instead of just being a decent human being.
00:21:14.640but yeah you know I've it's funny because I had an encounter like my I went to university in
00:21:22.520Ontario in Waterloo at the University of Waterloo and I actually wrote began sort of my journalistic
00:21:27.480career I wasn't paid to do it but I wrote and helped distribute an underground like student
00:21:33.720paper that was called the Chevron they used to be the UW's official paper back in the day but
00:21:39.680there are some changes. And it was run by a bunch of Marxists, like, you know, hammer and sickle
00:21:45.880toting Marxists. And I was a person, you know, who was very open to people and accepted people
00:21:51.800for who they are. I didn't necessarily ideologically abide by them. But there are some
00:21:56.200things I agreed with, like freedom of information and all those things. And this was an outlet where
00:22:01.180I could express my writing and get published. But it was funny, because one of the people there,
00:22:09.080I encountered later on at a protest, like masked up and Antifa. And I, you know, I'm not going to
00:22:16.620say his name, but I recognized his voice, his, his body type and composure. And I was like,
00:22:23.120hey, like, said his name, like, like, what are you doing? Like, we used to be, you know,
00:22:28.660on cordial terms, and they he just sort of, I think, shied away and backed off because there
00:22:34.300Whereas with the, you know, in these protests, the wearing a mask, being emboldened by people who agree with you, being surrounded by people who will support you, it gets rid of their rationality, of their objective thinking that this is another human being in front of me.
00:22:52.080and they will you know treat that person as the other the enemy and evil essentially and strip
00:23:00.680them of any humanity so that they can justify their own actions i think that is a lot to do
00:23:07.600with it from the psychological angle guys if you're watching on facebook like and share please
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00:23:16.260watching on twitter please the heart and the uh the retweet these people are obviously trained in
00:23:21.100marxist tactics cosmen you'd mentioned before we began the show tonight that you monitor a lot of
00:23:26.960the channels they use to communicate have you ever come across uh where they go to be trained to turn
00:23:34.080into these monsters is there a background in this is there some kind of a course they take
00:23:38.540where does this happen yeah it's so from what i knew back in my uh university days was
00:23:47.640like it would you know they wouldn't uh advertise on craigslist or kijiji like antifa training
00:23:54.980session or whatever right uh so they they would use they would use like university classrooms
00:24:02.060you can rent those out uh they would have their own community organizations uh they would sometimes
00:24:08.280call them like community aid organizations but it's a complex network of you know a plausible
00:24:15.360deniability as well, really woven into all of it. There were these groups at universities,
00:24:23.340and I'm sure they still exist, called PIRGs, and I think they're called public interest
00:24:28.560research groups. And they would have these lectures, you know, have speakers come in,
00:24:35.780discuss things like mobilization, organizing, and share literature, you know, radical left
00:24:43.460literature and these are the spaces that they circulate you know there's anarchist bookshops
00:24:48.580anarchist fairs uh and there's also all these online resources for them to access and essentially
00:24:56.820radicalize themselves on uh you know how to create a molotov cocktail how to uh dismantle a train
00:25:04.540rail uh how to all sorts of things which some of which is illegal some of which is perfectly legal
00:25:12.820uh like just getting together and having organizational structures and communicating
00:25:17.600uh so yeah i would say there it's multifaceted very complex but there but it's happening
00:25:23.420everywhere and it's it particularly targets uh young people i would say yeah and it's usually
00:25:29.060middle class sort of affluent educated people uh which is quite interesting when they claim
00:25:34.340they're like anti-establishment that they're against the system when they're actually these
00:25:38.220sort of products uh crystallized products of the system which is pushing this sort of radical
00:25:45.160vision of of you know a post capital post-colonial world onto the rest of us interesting uh they
00:25:54.840would be the prime targets because that's youth today they have no direction especially after
00:26:01.320what's happened in the last three years with the government cracking down and all the lockdowns
00:26:05.460and the regulations and whatnot, they may have felt, oh, I'm hopeless. I have no place to go.
00:26:11.800I have no goals in my life. Oh, look at these people. They'll take me in like I'm family.
00:26:16.740And the next thing you know, there they are in the street with a mask on, bashing somebody in
00:26:21.380the head with a sign. It doesn't seem as bad in Canada with Antifa, at least not yet, as it was
00:26:27.760in the United States, specifically Portland and Seattle during the, was it the George Floyd riots
00:26:32.900where they got really bad in the defund the police is there a reason for that is is it just
00:26:36.980because the canadian antifa are nicer like canadians in general um i i think it's like
00:26:44.320everything it has to do with scale in terms of the population uh simply a different size of a
00:26:50.160population so you'll just have smaller samples of different types of people and then there's also
00:26:55.540the issue of the antifa in the united states are armed um they have weapons uh easy access to
00:27:03.400weapons here you need to you know there's some degree of checking uh who you are going through
00:27:08.720a course and whatnot um so i think that that's that's probably the some of the main reasons but
00:27:16.300also i think the issues are much more um divided in the united states it's everything is like turbo
00:27:25.600there everything is like a hundred x uh than it is here and canada in some ways is ahead uh on
00:27:33.640stuff like government policies pushing all this uh radical gender stuff onto us but in some cases
00:27:39.760we're behind in terms of like the clashes we see on the streets, the scale of the protests
00:27:46.520and whatnot. Maybe it's because Canadians just don't want to fight back as much as their
00:27:52.400American counterparts as well, the ones who think clearly. You said they use violence,0.57
00:27:57.360but only to a point. Have you studied their tactics at all? Do you know what their big
00:28:04.100five might be i think property uh like violence against property if you could call it violence
00:28:10.100uh like property damage is their number one thing uh so we've seen it with pipelines we've seen it
00:28:16.940with developments but it goes uh even further we saw you know there hasn't been any um claim that
00:28:25.440you know there there hasn't we haven't seen videos of like masked people with the antifa
00:28:30.740a symbol on them but that attack at the pipeline site here in british columbia with the axe
00:28:36.220wielding people who were radical environmentalists definitely of the far left flavor uh going out
00:28:42.900there on a work site where there's people present uh with axes so it it definitely they push the
00:28:48.340envelope more and more um you know they use incendiary devices like uh smoke bombs they they
00:28:56.200use um uh like molotov cocktails and they'll use weapons uh but it's just we you know i don't think
00:29:05.660we've seen uh anything like murder or some of those extreme cases why don't police do more i
00:29:13.640mean like even the masking i looked that up and concealing your identity in canada during a riot
00:29:19.800is a criminal offense and yet the police and i would consider that what happened last week in
00:29:25.140ottawa could have been considered a riot depending on who you're you know talking about or talking to
00:29:30.180so why don't police enforce this it is on the books yeah that's a very good question and they
00:29:38.340seem you know from even from my own personal experience they just stand by and watch
00:29:43.040they're not willing to engage they're not willing to arrest people they're not willing to
00:29:47.700take the initiative unless you know something serious happens and the person goes and says
00:29:54.960I want to press charges, has identified that person, but it really leaves the victim in a spot
00:30:00.140where they have to do the police work themselves before there's any legitimate action towards
00:30:06.100getting justice and pressing a charge on the police's front. Why? I ask myself that all of
00:30:14.560the time. It's bizarre. It's very strange. I've seen other countries like in Sweden and Norway
00:30:22.180where they've taken uh immediate measures i recently posted a video there was this antifa
00:30:28.320attacked i think it was in sweden a swedish reporter um and immediately the police jumped
00:30:34.300in and arrested him uh and threw him in the back of a van within like two minutes that doesn't
00:30:39.660happen here and it's it baffles me why uh the canadian police don't uh it could be the you
00:30:46.220know the politicization we've seen of law enforcement over the years they're internally
00:30:50.780pushing some of these you know uh wacky ideas that they're systemically racist which is
00:30:56.800right from you know the antifa would agree with the these police commissioners and uh they'd have
00:31:04.220a discussion about how what to change and whatnot so it is quite concerning and i brought it up you
00:31:10.700know i've i've seen websites make uh legitimate claims of violence like we are going to be here
00:31:16.760at this day or we just did this and i've brought it up with the montreal police um and they well
00:31:25.760they didn't reply to me at all i gave them a detailed list of like why are you guys monitoring
00:31:30.360this website because it was a quebec-based and no answer uh whatsoever cosmon gerja is my guest
00:31:38.140you guys he is the senior uh investigator and journalist at truenorth tnc.news formerly of
00:31:45.500the post-millennial as well. Are these people embedded in our society? I mean, before we went
00:31:52.220on tonight, Cosmin, it was interesting, the conversation you said, you know, because they
00:31:55.980wear these masks when they show up at the events, they could be anybody. They could be around any
00:32:01.300corner behind any hedge and you'd never know it. Yeah, I think that's the purpose, right,
00:32:07.120of their they because they're you know they are in a way quite capable and nifty at using
00:32:15.540their representation to get a message across right you mentioned the black mask they call
00:32:22.200themselves black block they they have these umbrellas they have these flags they march down
00:32:27.800the street right like a paramilitary group uh they have chants and they it's meant to sort of
00:32:35.640create this omnipresent force like they could be anywhere as you said behind any corner
00:32:40.920they're there and and it's purposefully done to make people afraid to make people overestimate
00:32:47.900uh their size i think a lot of that does go on you know uh i'm not saying that they're not
00:32:53.900dangerous but there is some overestimations of the size and influence of antifa um uh in some
00:33:01.180some spheres but it is very psychological and and and i think the the masks are and stuff are
00:33:08.700central to that they've been called and i think you called them as well the the foot soldiers of
00:33:14.460the woke ideology they are very connected to this ideology where do they get their funding from
00:33:20.620they must be funded from somewhere by somebody yeah um and that's an interesting thing to look
00:33:28.880into because there are some groups who are openly like left wing that get public funds like far
00:33:35.660left organizations on universities you could essentially create a marxist leninist club in
00:33:43.840university and if you have the right amount of people uh you have the right you know signatures
00:33:49.960to have a charter for your group uh you elect a president and a vice president then the student
00:33:56.300union or whatever organization will ratify you and you then you will get some funds from the
00:34:02.620university which is essentially taxpayer money right so that's one way they do it there's other
00:34:08.320ways they do it there are organizations that you know call themselves like community action group
00:34:16.240or something like that's not a specific one I'm just kind of making it up compared to the ones
00:34:23.040I've seen and heard, but those can apply for city grants. They can apply for federal grants. They
00:34:30.860can apply for provincial grants. So I do think partially they abuse the system to get taxpayer
00:34:38.220money and then they wage a war on the middle class taxpayer in return. I wonder if these
00:34:46.560government, you see, this is the thing where people are sitting back going, all right, I'm
00:34:50.340starting to see the system now i'm not sure if you saw the video uh who posted it the other night it
00:34:56.280was uh doctor he's running for the the president as an independent in the united states he had this
00:35:01.320great video a few days ago talking about how the swarm control 10 000 members of the swarm control
00:35:08.140uh the 8 billion people on the planet and it seems to me that you know we've talked about antifa as
00:35:15.580the foot soldiers of this ideology they say we're not a group we're an ideology
00:35:19.960these people these marxists as you point out marxist leninists they're in universities
00:35:27.220where else are they now is that the is essentially the woke ideology we're seeing
00:35:32.760play out in our society these days no i i think they're uh also spread out elsewhere in the united
00:35:38.620states we've seen you know attorneys throw getting going to jail or at least court because they threw
00:35:45.320molotov cocktails uh at one of these protests you know as teachers teachers teachers you know
00:35:53.340university props i mean these kinds of people right i know there's one prominent one in winnipeg
00:35:58.280even though it's never been he's never been publicly outed it's an open secret at city hall
00:36:03.800and through all the reporters in manitoba that this one guy at the university of winnipeg is
00:36:08.960pretty much the lead honcho for the entire antifa network in this province and i thought what this
00:36:14.740guy's like 75 years old that can't be right yeah and you know i wouldn't be surprised that it's
00:36:21.360going it's spread into you know the public sector and in in the you know government uh bodies in
00:36:29.520journalism you know there's explicitly left-wing um papers that uh openly sympathize with antifa
00:36:36.440so i think it's quite a spread but i think the university and education system is is a
00:36:42.360a recruit recruiting ground this is where they seed or they draw people who are ripe for
00:36:50.120ideological brainwashing and uh they can turn into effective instruments to become you know the
00:36:58.380the front guard of the cultural revolution that is going on in terms of this uh post
00:37:07.680capitalist post-colonial society that is being pushed on us from the top down.
00:37:15.160Is there a hierarchical organization somehow? Is there a boss at the top? Is it run like the
00:37:21.400mafia or these cells? And I'm going to use themselves because it seems to me from your
00:37:25.780description, they're set up rather like a terrorist organization across our country.0.94
00:37:29.740Yeah, that's a very accurate way to describe it. It's like a guerrilla
00:37:35.220uh sort of paramilitary uh organization and it's um they're they're not i don't think it's
00:37:45.500hierarchical like that at least in an obvious sense and you know although they say like they
00:37:50.600antifa people who sympathize with antifa members they get into like these
00:37:55.300petty arguments with people they say oh we're not we're not a group we're not an organization and
00:38:01.440that's just meant to trip you up that's just like to get you distracted about the semantic argument
00:38:06.380they do the same thing with like their name they say we're antifa so if you're against us
00:38:10.600you must be a fascist as if calling anything anti-something and being opposed to that makes
00:38:16.780you that thing so it's this ridiculous word game mind game that they play but as for structure it
00:38:24.340is very much um cellular uh there are different groups in different cities more prominent ones
00:38:32.000like hamilton have larger presences other places it might just be a few people right getting
00:38:37.040together um for the weekend and like planning on which protests are going to go or what
00:38:42.080demonstrations they will do but there is an overarching acceptable uh discourse within
00:38:49.880the confines of antifa and if you're not uh on board with every single uh you know woke
00:38:58.260lefty uh position even if you stray a little bit on one of them they will not accept you as one of
00:39:06.240their own so there's definitely unity and a hierarchy of ideas so it's interesting because
00:39:13.340i was talking about intersectionality last week and it seems like all of these different causes
00:39:17.860are piling up and antifa has to all the membership has to keep up in order to maintain their
00:39:22.860membership right well okay let's see i support the war in ukraine i supported george floyd i
00:39:27.960supported uh all lives matter i supported black lives matter what am i missing here i'm supporting0.53
00:39:32.960the obese now uh i supported all the vaccines and so eventually we're going to have conflicts
00:39:39.000right and and what we're seeing now is i believe the muslim cause now here in winnipeg i'm not sure
00:39:45.220if it's been like this elsewhere in the country, but there was a very serious clash that happened
00:39:51.260here in Winnipeg two years ago during the peak of the pandemic where nobody was wearing a mask and
00:39:56.760the cops didn't care, it seemed, where we had Palestinians and many Muslims among these
00:40:01.580Palestinians lining up on one side of the street in front of the legislative buildings here in town
00:40:06.820against Jewish people on the other side. And the people who were yelling and screaming the loudest
00:40:12.640were on the Palestinian side, and they were all Antifa members. I counted probably 25 different
00:40:19.080local Antifa members, and I thought, wow, okay, so the Antifa members, at least here in Winnipeg,1.00
00:40:24.720support the Palestinian, the PLO, and Muslims, but now we've got Muslim people stamping on the0.98
00:40:31.720LGBTQ flags and wanting to get rid of this sexual weirdness that's going on in our schools right0.96
00:40:39.920now so there must be some kind of conflict ideologically going on inside the confines
00:40:45.680of the antifa brain yes absolutely and they have uh splits like any group right ideological
00:40:54.100sectarian so to speak uh splits and you've seen it with uh the with the pandemic i think there
00:41:03.540were some people who, you know, see themselves as anarchists, right? Anarchists, anarchism is
00:41:09.280just a belief that there should be no authority at the most basic level. But I'm sure there will
00:41:15.600be some internet philosopher who will like, comment on my definition. But, you know, like,
00:41:23.680there were some people in that movement, and I saw it in the comments online and some of these
00:41:29.300organizing places where they post their communications and they have these like
00:41:36.260internal debates where they disagreed with the forced mandates, the vaccines, because it goes
00:41:42.380directly contrary to any sensible anarchist's idea of what that means, right? It's the state
00:41:51.700enforcing a bodily decision on you, right? Like that to me that it would make no, there's a huge
00:41:58.100cognitive dissonance if you call yourself an anarchist and suddenly you support the state
00:42:03.920enroaching on your individual bodily autonomy uh and this it's and i think this is part and parcel
00:42:11.340of how how their mentality that they're constantly have two two things in their mind that are
00:42:17.320opposing and it's it makes them act in this way right it's like there's the the gears and and
00:42:23.460And then the sprockets kind of pop and fizz and like there's smoke coming out of their ears because it doesn't make any sense to a rational person's understanding.
00:42:34.440So, yeah, there was a division with the pandemic.
00:42:37.540There was division with the Freedom Convoy.
00:42:40.560There were some people who were sympathetic to the at least basic cause of the Freedom Convoy and the complaints.
00:42:48.460i i've seen you know long expositions where they said you know what they're saying is actually
00:42:53.360legitimate like but they're all nazi white supremacists racists right and we can't let
00:42:59.860them we can't let them take our territory of being the anti-establishment people right we have to stand0.78
00:43:05.380against them whether we agree with them or not uh i i want to ask you just as a regular person
00:43:10.600because we've got a lot of regular people like we're just regular people us people who watch
00:43:15.460this show and gather every night in this community and you know the same with the people who went to
00:43:19.780ottawa for the freedom convoy we're just canadians man we do jobs and we wanted to do our jobs and
00:43:25.260we felt the government was getting in our way and we finally stood up against them we're just
00:43:29.520regular common sense folk that's what canadians are for the most part and we we've never been
00:43:36.940to protests before cosmon we've never been in the street and we've never had to face
00:43:51.840aggressive people what can how are we supposed to respond to these people if they come at us
00:43:57.660because you say you know you've been up against them before in the past where they have you know
00:44:03.240jammed the siren in your ear you've been surrounded by them and and you said that's obviously meant
00:44:08.300to terrify but are we supposed to actually physically take them on or do we just kind of
00:44:13.360ignore them so i would say that it's probably wise um not to get in physical confrontations
00:44:22.380just because the you know we've talked about the police thing and everything else there is
00:44:27.400and they they they will use like if anybody gets physical on the other side they will use that
00:44:33.480uh to their advantage they'll blow it up online and they'll do all this stuff to uh target this
00:44:38.960individual so you know if you want to go to a protest those days for me are mostly behind me
00:44:45.300i did cover some of the the convoy stuff and here in british columbia at the surrey border with the
00:44:51.320united states but if you go to protests where there are tensions are very high uh there's a
00:44:59.520clear division. There are people willing to get in your face. I would advise don't go alone.
00:45:07.120Go with people who know you, who will keep an eye out on you, who will look out for you,
00:45:13.920you know. But if you are there alone, try to find some people like that, right?
00:45:20.140And, you know, be as peaceful as you can be, because in reality, people just need to be
00:45:28.700We need a mass peace movement to oppose them and getting violent and using their tactics is not really the answer because people will, you know, will see the contradiction and the hypocrisy, right?
00:45:42.440So you can oppose them by the force of numbers instead of violence, by the force of your voice, by the force of your advocacy.
00:45:53.580so you follow their communications networks to a point you know what they talk about uh even though
00:46:01.220they they don't know it and i think that's hilarious i mean i'm hope that you've got
00:46:04.700seven or eight different accounts and that you can follow them all under different names
00:46:08.080so they'll never be able to track you down uh what do you think their next cause celebra is going to
00:46:13.360be uh well i think the environmental stuff is going to ramp up uh it's much more prominent in
00:46:20.740europe i actually do a lot of journalism but presenting stories that are happening in europe
00:46:27.700which are very relevant to what's happening here i have a sub stack called outer edge uh you can
00:46:33.520visit that at outeredge.substack.com and they're like these environmental protests are are huge
00:46:41.260you know they're blocking traffic every single day in berlin and in austria and elsewhere
00:46:46.220There we recently saw in France, they just sprayed more paint on these beautiful paintings by I think it was Monet, you know, and I think we'll see that ramp up here in British Columbia, in Victoria at the Royal BC Museum, somebody splash paint on the woolly mammoth exhibit there and made some ridiculous statement or whatever message.
00:47:11.760So I think that will be much more prominent as we, as provinces further try to develop their energy industry to develop like Alberta, Saskatchewan, there's going to be huge opposition from these types of groups.
00:47:26.660They're going to try to sabotage it. They're going to try to block workers from getting to their sites. They're going to try to, you know, trip up the machinery, break things.
00:47:36.120I think that will be will get more prevalent as we move out of this pandemic stuff, which is essentially over in my eyes.
00:47:45.000You do still see it pop up here and there, some protests.1.00
00:47:52.360Yes, the gender stuff is going to pick up as people push back and try to get elected onto school boards to oppose this stuff.0.98
00:48:01.120There's going to be more demonstrations happening against this stuff there.0.98
00:48:05.620And that will bring them out because it's one of the core principles that they abide by, which is the gender ideology. That's one of the things that really gathers them together alongside the climate activism and the racism stuff, right?
00:48:21.240Like the, any, any racially, any racial, it doesn't even have to be racially motivated event.
00:48:28.880It could just be a perception that something happened, like a police incident happened and it was race-based.
00:51:38.520So we have her name is Francine Champagne.1.00
00:51:40.880She's been suspended 90 days without pay for breaking the rules based upon what she posted, which they called it hate.0.96
00:51:50.740and it was not hate it was a couple of funny memes but this is what they used to get her
00:51:58.920removed from the school board just like that you know code of conduct violation absolutely you've
00:52:06.500seen it at the waterloo school board they silence the uh only you know uh black trustee there uh
00:52:15.720i'm pretty sure his name's excuse me mike ramsey and they do it this is the what they do even if
00:52:22.460a conservative or you know anti-woke uh trustee or council member gets in gets elected by the
00:52:31.560people is given a mandate to represent uh their voters concerns they will use the system which is
00:52:40.460actually kind of rigged against against opposition to this stuff especially in in in education like
00:52:48.600that stuff like soji here in british columbia diversity equity inclusion is written into uh
00:52:57.220like their policy like very deep into the policy there it's religion like there's no going against
00:53:03.040it and if you do you are you're if you speak against it you're violating that policy and
00:53:08.120And it'll bring up these repercussions, these sanctions against you, get you suspended, get you removed from being able to speak and eventually getting entirely ejected from the position you were elected into.
00:53:22.080And then they'll claim, you know, we can't do a by-election. Let's just appoint somebody. And they draft up a list of five people who completely agree with them on everything.
00:53:32.180And so it's it's very manipulative, anti-democratic manipulation of democratic process and authoritarian.
00:53:41.580And they know the only recourse is to go and hire a very expensive attorney and then wait and wait and wait for your day in court.
00:53:49.460And hopefully you win. And I believe personally that our court system is compromised as well.
00:53:54.460I'm not sure exactly how badly it's compromised and I'm not sure where the compromises come from.
00:54:01.820I think it's the committee that David Lamedi formed with the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Canada.
00:54:06.960We had Kerry Simpson on a couple of weeks ago talking about that, which was very interesting.
00:54:11.500So if you can't win in the courts, and I believe it's been rigged this way, you can't even win in the electoral system.
00:54:18.100Where can you win? What can we do here?
00:54:22.360I think just to like touch on the legal stuff, like I'm not a lawyer, I'm not a legal expert, but federally the big problems are changes to the charter.
00:54:31.820Like, you know, they added self identification of gender essentially to the human rights of Canada, which means that if you violate somebody by not using their pronoun or not giving them access to, you know, a spa where they get Brazilian waxes, as the famous case here in BC, you can get taken to human rights court.
00:54:56.260Right. And now they're what they're trying to do with this online hate legislation that they're going to bring in is to get that stuff added to the Section 13 reintroduced to the Human Rights Act, which was struck down by I'm pretty sure the Harper government because it was a total violation of freedom of expression of people.
00:55:17.160and they're trying to revive it. So they change the law. And I think the only solution is going
00:55:23.660to back into the, you know, policies, the Board of Educations and all that, and reversing that
00:55:30.860those decisions, which would be an entire bombshell to do, and it would be hugely politically risky.
00:55:40.960So whether that's going to happen, I'm not sure. What can people do? You know, I think being,
00:55:45.940your voice out there. We fortunately live, still live in a time where it's easier than ever
00:55:54.040to express yourself online, reach people who you would never be able to reach
00:55:59.760and get yourself out there, engage with people. Twitter is a wonderful thing. And it's always
00:56:07.440been a wonderful thing in the sense that you can go to somebody who's powerful and elite and
00:56:12.700whatever and give your bit and sometimes they get angry and reply right somebody who who might live
00:56:18.540in a mansion on top of a hill gets a little ticked off you get under their skin because you're saying
00:56:23.540something true and you're pulling the rug out from under them and everything they start to
00:56:27.400question themselves right and showing force that way right uh i i think you know i've been blessed
00:56:34.180to work in and see one of the greatest uh growths of alternative and independent media
00:56:41.360uh, in, in my memory, right? Like I'm 28 years old. I'm sure there, there have been stuff in
00:56:47.460radio before, but you know, today this is like, this is peak. Like we are really at, at the height
00:56:55.560of, of this stuff and it needs to keep going and we need to provide an alternative so that there's
00:57:01.960a balance, uh, in the public discussion. And that's what we're trying to do essentially is
00:57:08.180be provide balance because everything is so tilted one way that there is no nobody truly
00:57:14.420uh like holding these individuals to account or asking the questions that are on the mind of like
00:57:20.480ordinary people people who are you know at your local grocery store people you run into like they
00:57:26.260have these questions and they don't see their opinions and their their needs and and uh their
00:57:31.560worries reflected in what they read in the legacy media or what they see their politicians are so
00:57:38.120called leaders talk about well you know the media you know i spent 37 years in media and yesterday
00:57:45.240big bombshell came out with bell you know getting rid of what is it 1300 employees like one sixth
00:57:52.360of their entire workforce and closing down their bureaus in los angeles and london and pretty much
00:57:59.980shit canning any kind of local news that they were producing uh across the country and they're going0.93
00:58:05.920to centralize it all in toronto i thought wow that's great they're killing themselves even more0.98
00:58:10.540it's it's like watching a a patient laying there on life support actually taking his own uh
00:58:17.860ventilator off you know it's like these guys are doing it to themselves i mean uh the here's the
00:58:25.800thing like i was talking about this on twitter it's sad in a sense if you look at it from an
00:58:33.540emotional level. But I don't look at it that way. I look at it like this. The legacy media is
00:58:41.300bloated. These corporations are huge. They hire thousands and thousands of people when you don't
00:58:48.340need to do that anymore. In the digital world, it doesn't take that many people to report on news
00:58:53.920because me as an individual, I can access the parliamentary hearings from my computer. I can
00:59:01.040access every school board in this country. I can access every single city council in this country.
00:59:08.780I can email people. I can call people. All you need is a laptop and a cell phone. Get a few people
00:59:14.640and you can create a media organization. They are stuck with a system and a business model that is
00:59:20.940based in the past. It doesn't work anymore. And unfortunately for them, there's a lot of inertia
00:59:28.780going on because you can't stop a massive corporation corporation that's listed on the
00:59:34.840tsx just like that right uh they're gonna die a slow bleeding painful death um in the next few
00:59:43.440potentially decades i don't think i think they're sooner than that and what they're trying to do is
00:59:49.320they're trying to patch up these you know they're trying to patch up like uh this might be a little
00:59:55.220but like a cut to their jugular with band-aids which in the form of taxpayer subsidies but like
01:00:01.480how long can that go on uh when these corporations these legacy media behemoths are bleeding out
01:00:08.780and uh and they're also trying to monopolize they're trying to get more centralized more
01:00:15.800united so that there's fewer options for people um because they see what's coming i think uh0.96
01:00:23.360These executives are not stupid. They know what business they're in. They know how things work
01:00:28.100today. Some of them are trying to transition into this digital stuff, but I just think
01:00:32.940they're at a disadvantage compared to more nimble and independent outlets who don't have all this
01:00:39.680overhead that they do. You're in digital media, Cosmin. This will be the final question of the
01:00:44.900night. Let me ask you this. Do you think Trudeau is going to be able to shut down digital media
01:00:50.900with these bills well now law c11 and bill c18 is he that's what he's trying to do but to me it
01:00:58.140seems unconstitutional and i'm sure that uh independent media will raise enough money to
01:01:03.020fight back with a constitutional case how do you see this going so i don't think uh he can shut
01:01:10.880down independent media uh just the nature of the internet uh fortunately it's still like sort of
01:01:17.000decentralized they're trying to regulate it but you know there are things like vpns exist you can
01:01:22.320use a proxy server there's ways to get around it if people can do it in china where they have the
01:01:26.760worst among the worst firewalls in the world uh they can do it in canada it'll be easy to do
01:01:32.480right and luckily we're also seeing the popping up of these alternative streaming platforms we
01:01:39.060see alternative youtubes like rumble where i know you you also stream you see you see it
01:01:45.240everywhere, right? And this is good. This is the benefit of having a system where the market has
01:01:51.280some say, and people can break away from the dominant forms. I think with these bills, a lot
01:01:59.540of it is that these media companies don't like what they see on social media in the sense that
01:02:05.980when you go to their pages, their articles have maybe zero likes, maybe five likes, maybe 10 likes,
01:02:15.240I don't know. Maybe that might be the maximum. But when you go to the pages of more independent people, they have hundreds, if not thousands, if not millions of likes. And that really irks them. It makes them upset and insecure. And so they've lobbied the government to come in and make things more fair, even though nobody's watching or reading their things because they're just not interested in what they peddle.
01:02:39.840So they want to force companies to force people essentially through algorithms, through the manipulation of what you can see, what you can access, what's placed where on the Web page to to do that and make them seem more important than they really are.
01:02:58.840Cosmin, how can we find you on social media?
01:03:01.440Yeah, I'm mainly active on Twitter at CosmanDZS. You can read my stuff at tnc.news. And as I
01:03:10.840mentioned, I have a sub stack on more European global affairs in this global woke takeover,
01:03:17.980so to speak, at outeredge.substack.com. I would love to have you back on for another one of these
01:03:24.000conversations. Thanks for coming on tonight. Really appreciate you taking the time, man.
01:03:27.980Thank you. I'd be happy to. All right. There is Cosman Georgia.
01:03:31.120He is a senior researcher and reporter with TNC.news, formerly of the Postmillennial.
01:03:37.880Young guy, but already vast experience in the media world and specifically the digital media world.
01:03:43.600He knows how to work it. So, guys, go ahead and follow him on Twitter.
01:03:46.920He's a good follow. And that's, you know, I discovered him on TNC when I first heard of him.
01:03:52.060I know this guy. He's like the Canadian Andy No, except without the getting beaten up over and over again part.
01:03:58.700because he has been there in the trenches with these Antifa thugs.
01:04:47.220Kitchener families upset over their local.
01:04:50.100Now, this is truly sad because kids look forward to this.
01:04:57.080right they wait now this is a grade eight grad but still you know they look forward to this day
01:05:03.460just regular normal everyday average canadian kids graduating from eighth grade they want to0.98
01:05:09.080go and they want to celebrate without all the crap without all the wokeness and their school0.90
01:05:15.620decided to cancel and of course families are upset because their local public school opted0.93
01:05:20.700not to hold a traditional graduation ceremony for the eighth grade students because of equity and
01:05:26.880inclusion. This comes amid the Waterloo Regents District School Board embracing woke equity,
01:05:33.680diversity, and inclusion ideology with the aim of fostering an anti-oppressive, anti-racist,
01:05:39.700and inclusive culture, which is completely the opposite of everything they say it is,
01:05:45.920just like Cosman was saying earlier. Sahib Khan, a grade 8 student at Grow Public School,
01:05:51.980told CTV News that he and his peers were all put into this one classroom and told they're
01:05:56.220not going to have a proper graduation the school's principal then told sub's father
01:06:01.240sergit khan that holding a formal ceremony would not be equitable for those who cannot afford
01:06:07.100nice clothes when i first read this story i almost crapped myself and the reason for that is because
01:06:16.000i recall my my 12th grade graduation there's one guy that i knew who wasn't going to go to
01:06:24.180the grad and the reason was he couldn't afford one of those terrible tuxedos that we all rented
01:06:29.280he was a poor guy so what did we do we all now back then this is 1982 remember this is a long
01:06:37.100time ago we all chipped in 10 or 15 bucks and we got him a tux and he went to his grad because
01:06:44.340there was no way we were going to let that happen and the same situation would have happened here
01:06:49.180so what is this this is a cheap excuse based upon diversity equity and inclusion
01:06:56.220the waterloo regional district school board told ctv it's aiming to adopt an equitable approach to
01:07:02.660these celebrations ensuring accessibility for all students in an effort to ensure inclusivity
01:07:07.220and to honor our students accomplishments in an equitable matter mind you grow ps will hold a
01:07:13.640celebration week activities for the celebration week include a pancake breakfast a staff and
01:07:18.980student basketball game and a presentation of class t-shirts do you honestly think that these
01:07:23.400kids are going to take this and go yay we don't get to have a grad party we're gonna have a
01:07:28.880basketball game against the teachers all right i don't think so and the sad thing here is that
01:07:36.180the kids are suffering because of this they just want to be by and large man they just want to be
01:07:44.640normal kids and that's what we're all about you guys right just let the kids be the kids
01:07:54.300let them go and have their fun for goodness sakes that's the story that Cosman wrote by the way part
01:08:01.820one and part two antifa in canada and origin story i'm going to throw this up in the comments
01:08:08.300here uh on facebook and on twitter poof there it is if you guys want to go ahead and read that i'm
01:08:13.900going to throw it up on rumble as well let me just scroll down here so that i can put it in the
01:08:17.920comments i was told by one of my rumble viewers in a not so quiet manner the other day shadow
01:08:24.620you got to stop posting links in the chat you got to put them in the comments because when you put
01:08:30.160them in the chat they just vanish and we don't have enough time to get to them so put them in
01:08:33.840the comments and not the chat and i went okay okay i gotcha so anytime i put a i put a link in rumble
01:08:41.560right now it's gonna be in the comments and not the chat that is a good read you guys it gives
01:08:46.920you a little bit of insight as to what antifa is all about uh more so even than the conversation
01:08:53.920i had with cosmon tonight uh we talked about this story earlier but in case you didn't hear about it
01:08:59.360There was a crash on number one highway in Manitoba near Carberry earlier today, about 1130 this morning, a bus filled with seniors from Dauphin and the area.
01:09:15.360We're going down to the Sandhills Casino and they hit a semi truck at the intersection of Highway 5 and Highway 1.
01:09:23.940Fifteen seniors died, ten more sent to hospital.
01:09:54.420danielle smith didn't say she was banned all she said was that her account will not be allowed to
01:10:02.280post for a few days she didn't say she was banned
01:10:05.720right and and this is what she put down on her twitter post big tech and government censorship
01:10:15.440becoming a danger to free speech around the world okay sorry she did say banned banned from posting
01:10:20.120content but not banned in a sense that she's invisible so banned from posting content for a
01:10:26.180few days as the premier of a province with 4.6 million albertans if they can prevent me from
01:10:31.140communicating with you imagine what they can do to you so as we go down this story uh she now says
01:10:38.800on twitter happy to report my page is able to post on facebook again this was an error that appeared
01:10:44.580on my page i hope this is the last time it happens sorry you can't post this is what happened she
01:10:49.320took a screenshot of it just to prove it to everybody because she knew that something like
01:10:55.120this was going to happen the left-wing corporate media was going to gang up on her take her words1.00
01:10:59.260out of context and try and make her look like a fool through gaslighting even meta did that1.00
01:11:04.400meta canada the spokesperson says we didn't ban her we banned one of the people who posts on her
01:11:09.800facebook but not her oh oh that's what that was but here's what it said on her facebook as of
01:11:18.980yesterday sorry you can't post to facebook from this account for security reasons your account
01:11:23.520has been limited it has limited access to the site for a few days if you have any questions
01:11:28.900please contact our help center they try to make her look like she's crazy lying but she told us
01:11:36.740all the truth last story and it's a good story you guys and again if you were at last night's
01:11:43.520show with maxime bernier i'm sorry to tell you guys this but oh crap was it ever shadow banned
01:11:51.180it was squeezed so hard at least on facebook i'm not sure what happened on twitter or on rumble
01:11:57.940but oh man on facebook it got less than half of the regular viewership seriously there is a way
01:12:04.900around this and the only way around this is to like and share it get it out there to as many
01:12:11.200people as possible that always breaks through the shadow banning algorithm but it's got to be at
01:12:16.760least 500 shares if we don't get to 500 it's not even it's people there will be less viewers than
01:12:24.480shares believe it that's what they're doing that's i know but that's what's going on and the the
01:12:32.020problem here is from my end of it i don't know who's doing it i don't know if it's trudeau
01:12:38.160not that trudeau is sitting there on his computer going well maybe he is but i don't think so going
01:12:44.160i'm gonna ban shadow davis rebel news western standard and i'm banning true north as well and
01:12:49.160all the other independent journalists out there no he's not the one doing it but i don't know if
01:12:54.960it's the government of canada or if it's meta themselves doing it based upon something i said
01:13:00.420but i haven't received any message from facebook telling me i did anything wrong
01:13:06.360but that's what a shadow ban is isn't it so this story here comes from rebel news students walk out
01:13:14.940of ottawa high school to protest gender ideology curriculum excellent news here
01:13:22.260i gotta go through all the donation stuff here on their web okay so high school students in ottawa
01:13:28.420walked out of class today in protest of gender ideology being taught in ontario classrooms
01:13:33.360A number of students from Longfield's Davidson Secondary School took to the sidewalk this afternoon for a rally opposing what they feel is inappropriate subject matter.
01:13:43.740Rebel News reporter Robert, I was going to say Robin, no, no, he's a dude.
01:13:49.600Robert Krejcik was there covering the protest, the second protest opposing the Ottawa Carleton District School Board's curriculum in a week.
01:13:57.620And here's what it looked like out there.
01:14:03.360All right, so that's just the promo video.
01:14:32.220You can see the whole thing at rebelnews.com.
01:14:37.200Students walked out to the sidewalk in front of their school today, Longfields-Davidson, where some in the crowd held signs opposing gender ideology received supportive honks from passersby.
01:14:48.400True North contributor Cosmin Jurja, who we had on the show earlier, chimed in on the protest saying an infusion of youthful energy was exactly what conservatives need.
01:14:57.460how can we replicate this across the country all right parents all right grandparents
01:15:07.200it's time to get on it it's time to stand up it's time to speak out it's time to say is enough
01:15:15.000is enough it's time to talk to your kids and ask them how they feel about it and importantly
01:15:22.240it's time to teach them to stand up for themselves i know as mama bears
01:15:30.000you want not you guys you ladies as mama bears you want to protect your child in any way you
01:15:38.500can you know you want to keep them by i will protect you and that's cool that's obviously
01:15:43.640the instinct that any parent has but one of the main things that we need to do
01:15:50.760is teach them to protect themselves and teach them to stand up for themselves encourage them
01:15:58.260to do this encourage them to create a walkout at their school if they and their friends feel0.99
01:16:05.440forced even bullied into sitting there and listening to this crap that teachers are spewing
01:16:12.380out quite legally as well and not because it is legal mind you because you know in section 50 of0.98
01:16:19.400the criminal code of canada that's sexualization of a child by the way and if you show a child
01:16:24.520under 16 years of age any pornography or sexual acts live or in photos or on video that's a crime
01:16:31.700punishable up to 10 years in prison if you get a conviction and it seems that police don't want to
01:16:37.160enforce these things for some reason so yeah your kids are right to be able to get up out of that
01:16:46.460desk, grab their stuff out of their locker, and walk the hell out. And don't go back.
01:16:53.060I know they've got a lot invested in their school, friends, and all of that, and they probably want
01:16:59.180to see it through to the end, but some things are more important in life. Standing up for your basic
01:17:06.660rights and principles, what you believe in, to me, is more important than your high school
01:17:16.500diploma. You can get that anytime. And I'm not telling kids to drop out. Tell them to
01:17:23.400stand up for their rights. And if enough kids do this, backed by their parents, we're going
01:17:29.880to break this thing we're going to break this thing guys but we need to rise up on mass so
01:17:38.080somebody was asking me yesterday why i'm talking about this it seems more and more and more this
01:17:44.300this whole gender thing well first of all we're still in pride month right in the smack middle of
01:17:49.880it it's not going to be over for a couple of weeks um but i believe that this particular thing
01:17:57.580is a flashpoint and is helping people to wake up. As you heard Cosman say tonight, these Antifa
01:18:05.220people, they all have to believe in whatever cause celebra comes along, right? So going back to
01:18:12.040George Floyd, well, they had to believe in defund the police. Then they had to believe in all lives
01:18:16.400matter. Then they had to believe in the vaccine and they had to believe in the lockdowns and they
01:18:20.300had to believe in the war in Ukraine. And now they have to believe in gender ideology and they have
01:18:24.720to enforce it on people and next it's obviously going to be the environment climate change it's
01:18:29.540always been a thread but now that's going to be the next big thing according to cosmic
01:18:35.200right so we have to start standing up against this and if people are waking up to the fact0.97
01:18:43.460that this whole big monolith is all those different stupid causes all combined into one0.98
01:18:49.740and they can start seeing that for real then we've got a chance0.98
01:18:53.660and i think that this this whole thing that we're seeing right now with the pushback especially in
01:19:00.740the united states the boycotts of of uh target and bud light you know all that stuff it's working
01:19:08.500we just have to keep it up we have to continue we can't take time off from this yes you can
01:19:14.980absolutely have some down time for a few a couple of weeks go to the lake do whatever it is it's
01:19:20.600summertime but never stop thinking about this stuff it's important that you at least keep your
01:19:25.300head in the game keep tuning into this show at least a couple of times a week just to keep
01:19:29.560yourself aware of what's going on i'll be happy to tell you that's my job your job is to make
01:19:37.340things happen out there with the people who are closest to you that's the best way that you can
01:19:42.140serve the cause of freedom and i know i haven't used that term a lot lately freedom and truth but
01:19:50.120But that's what's at stake here, and that's why I said it.
01:19:53.980And that is it for the show tonight, you guys.