The Shadoe Davis Show - November 08, 2023


Shadoe at Nite Tues Nov.7th⧸2023 w⧸Attorney Leighton Grey of The Grey Matter Podcast


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00:03:30.000 hello everybody and welcome it is shadow at night for tuesday november the 7th 2023 special guest
00:03:40.140 on the show tonight is attorney leighton gray who's been very active in the freedom community
00:03:45.820 for the past three years we're going to find out why that is of all the lawyers across the country
00:03:51.200 only a handful have actually stepped up and made any noise at all regarding all of the draconian
00:03:57.400 lockdowns and mandates we've had to face for the past three years. Not now, of course, but they
00:04:03.080 could come back at any time if another pandemic crops up. Why have so few lawyers stepped up to
00:04:10.920 the plate? Maybe Leighton can give us some insight on that when he joins the show in just a couple
00:04:17.160 of minutes. Hello, Morgana, watching from Kootenai Bay in British Columbia. We are on Facebook and
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00:05:58.120 watching tonight in stonewall hello daisy may watching in saint francis xavier uh mustang
00:06:03.600 sandy is in victoria there's going to be a big uh i'm not going to call it a protest let's call it
00:06:09.500 a demonstration on Thursday regarding that Bill 36 that's passed into law now for almost a year.
00:06:16.320 It restricts doctors immensely in what they can and cannot do in terms of prescriptions and even
00:06:21.720 treatments for certain illnesses. And so, yeah, everybody is getting together in Victoria on
00:06:27.660 Thursday. We're going to have a couple of folks from BC rising on the show tomorrow night to talk
00:06:32.560 about that. So, yeah, it's a packed week. Late in gray, again, coming up in a couple of minutes.
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00:08:12.820 that came from the winnipeg the the left-wing corporate winnipeg free press these guys
00:08:18.820 were were pretty much the leaders in getting trudeau to cop up all that media money a few
00:08:24.900 years ago the winnipeg free press the ownership group of the winnipeg free press yes they were
00:08:29.780 were the ringleaders in all of that this story came out today alberta lawyer files another in
00:08:36.220 a series of lawsuits from covet vax averse manitobans so now it's not anti-vaxxers you
00:08:42.340 notice it's vax averse manitobans seeking damages from employers long so watch watch the left-wing
00:08:51.760 rhetoric. It's not blatant. It's innate. Long after Manitoba lifted public health orders
00:09:02.220 surrounding the COVID-19 pandemic, which already makes it seem like it's a frivolous lawsuit,
00:09:08.560 major employers continue to be hit with civil lawsuits seeking damages and citing infringements
00:09:13.540 on personal rights, as they should, in my opinion. The latest such suit, filed October 31st in Court
00:09:20.740 of King's Bench is targeting the Canadian National Railway, with plaintiff Kenton Hildebrand
00:09:26.200 seeking more than $250,000 in compensation. The suit alleges Hildebrand, who worked for
00:09:32.740 Canada's largest railway for 22 years, was wrongfully placed on unpaid leave November 15,
00:09:38.520 2021, after refusing to disclose his vaccination status. The action came less than a month after
00:09:44.800 CN introduced a company-wide policy requiring all employees to have at least one dose of the jab
00:09:51.140 before that date and be fully jabbed by January 24th of 2022. At the time, the federal government
00:09:59.620 required vaccinations for all railway employees in Canada. The policy was consistent with others
00:10:05.120 adopted by frontline public service organizations, including healthcare, corrections, education,
00:10:09.660 in child care. So what? That doesn't matter. That doesn't matter at all. But of course,
00:10:17.840 the writer of this story felt compelled to defend these corporations who were putting in these
00:10:22.820 ridiculous mandates. Hildebrand opposed the policy, which he felt created a hostile work
00:10:27.920 environment and forced employees to reveal private medical information. He was subject to repeated
00:10:33.200 communications, threats, and other harassing behavior, suffering mental anguish, anxiety,
00:10:38.500 and injuries to his dignity as a result the suit says and i'm sure there's many people watching
00:10:45.460 this show right now who had to go through the same thing the draconian steps taken by the company to
00:10:52.300 enforce its policy as well as the policy itself are incongruent with its claims of promoting
00:10:57.360 well-being and safety it says cn actively knowingly and willfully harmed hildebrand
00:11:01.960 cn's conduct was high-handed and improper at the time of his dismissal hildebrand was working as
00:11:08.380 an account manager in charge of one of CN's largest customer accounts and earning an annual
00:11:13.960 salary of almost 120 grand. Leighton Gray is representing Hildebrand in this case. The Alberta
00:11:20.240 based lawyer has led at least three similar suits in Manitoba. In June of 2022, he represented 16
00:11:26.600 unvaccinated Manitoba health system employees in a lawsuit against Brent Rusin, shared health in
00:11:31.860 the province of Manitoba. In December, he represented Courtney Peters in a lawsuit against Winnipeg
00:11:37.280 police service. The following month, he filed suit on behalf of three University of Winnipeg
00:11:41.660 collegiate instructors. In all cases, the plaintiffs were seeking damages from their
00:11:46.120 employees after being placed on leave for refusing to disclose their vaccine status.
00:11:52.920 Now, here is what the opposing lawyer says. The statement of claim is an abuse of the process of
00:11:59.580 the court and is scandalous, frivolous, and vexatious. A lawyer representing the Winnipeg
00:12:05.920 the police city of Winnipeg and the province of Bruisen, who were all targeted in the Peter suit.
00:12:10.640 It pleads general discontent with vaccines in the response to the COVID-19 pandemic rather than material facts of any action.
00:12:20.140 Leighton Gray is our guest tonight.
00:12:22.320 Leighton, let me ask you, thanks for coming on the show, by the way.
00:12:27.800 Thanks for inviting me.
00:12:29.460 Yeah. Why are these courts still upholding the fact that these COVID-19 injections were safe and effective when we know now what we know?
00:12:40.820 Well, it's an excellent question. The answer is that, in fact, no court in Canada has yet been prepared to tackle that question.
00:12:51.840 In fact, they're avoiding it. They're avoiding it like the plague. Pardon the pun.
00:12:55.660 There's no court yet that wants to deal with whether or not these vaccines are safe and effective.
00:13:02.000 And in fact, that's why we're constantly met with these motions to strike.
00:13:07.100 The motion to strike is a sort of a procedural preemptive move that the government of Canada has somewhat perfected.
00:13:15.660 And this is their response in every single case.
00:13:19.220 I should mention, in addition to a lot of the, you know, you quite properly note, you know, the double speak and double think in that particular article, I respectfully declined to speak with the reporter who works for what I regard as a former newspaper, the Winnipeg Free Press.
00:13:36.980 And that article is very misleading because in this particular case, this worker, his case has nothing to do with those other three.
00:13:46.640 Those other three cases were unsuccessful because the court refused to take jurisdiction.
00:13:53.900 They said that all of those people were unionized workers.
00:13:57.280 And because they were unionized workers, they had to follow through with the arbitration processes described in the collective bargaining agreements.
00:14:05.040 And that was why we had to discontinue those cases. We lost in the University of Winnipeg case, and we discontinued the others because we knew we were going to lose after the court decided that question. But it was essentially the court saying, we will not hear this case. And so that was the issue.
00:14:23.020 in this particular case, there's no union involved. And this is really a pure wrongful
00:14:29.820 dismissal type case where a person is fired simply because they refuse to participate in
00:14:35.740 an experimental drug trial. Let me ask you, this principle of judicial notice has been used
00:14:43.000 repeatedly in cases across the country for the past couple or three years. And I understand from
00:14:48.460 our friend Kerry Simpson in British Columbia, that this was a principle that was introduced by
00:14:53.320 the Minister of Justice at the time. I forget who it was. It wasn't Jody Wilson-Raybould,
00:14:58.020 the guy after her. I forget. Lamedi. David Lamedi. He got together with one Supreme Court
00:15:05.900 justice and a bunch of justices from all across the country. And they decided they were going
00:15:10.660 to impose judicial notice over all cases having to do with COVID-19 vaccine mandates or just
00:15:18.100 mandates in general how have they been allowed to get away with this behavior it's nonsense
00:15:22.380 it is an excellent question and it invites a broader discussion about what i call judicial
00:15:28.240 activism in our country uh we're seeing this played out in recent cases shadow you probably saw
00:15:33.820 um the earlier this week or last week where the supreme court of canada has decided that
00:15:40.120 it's unfair to to pedophiles to expose them to minimum sentences uh and the and the federal
00:15:46.900 Court of Appeal has said that there's nothing wrong with people being disqualified from employment
00:15:52.000 insurance benefits, even though the only thing that they did wrong to disqualify them was to
00:15:58.140 refuse to take a vaccine. But this concept of judicial notice is very old in our law. It's part
00:16:04.060 of the common law. However, until recently, it's been confined to cases or situations where
00:16:12.920 a particular fact is not in dispute and it's so obvious that no one needs to call evidence on it
00:16:20.260 things like gravity you know the day of the week and and whether Justin Trudeau was a good prime
00:16:26.200 minister things that are so obvious that there's not we need not call any evidence about it but
00:16:31.240 this concept has been expanded uh significantly it's a very dangerous development in the law
00:16:37.580 because these judges are exercising discretion, unfettered discretion.
00:16:43.320 They're becoming the most powerful political force in our country.
00:16:47.900 And some of this is very peculiar.
00:16:49.740 I'll give you an example from Alberta.
00:16:51.700 There's a case you might have heard of in Manitoba called Omar Kader.
00:16:55.360 Omar Kader is a murderer.
00:16:57.700 He's a terrorist.
00:17:00.060 There's a $100 million, multi-hundred million judgment against him in the United States
00:17:05.720 because he killed the United States servicemen who left behind him a wife and children.
00:17:12.040 And he actually was in Guantanamo Bay.
00:17:15.880 He sued the Canadian government for violation of his Section 7 charter rights
00:17:20.300 to life, liberty, and security of the person.
00:17:22.460 Justin Trudeau, not long after he became our prime minister,
00:17:26.380 handed this erstwhile Canadian $10.5 million, Canadian dollars,
00:17:32.740 which he used to buy a shopping mall in Edmonton.
00:17:34.860 That's not the end of the story, though. The lawyer who acted for Omar Khadr not long afterwards was appointed to the Court of King's Bench of Alberta. Only last week, the judge who heard that case, Mary Morrow, was appointed to the Supreme Court of Canada.
00:17:56.280 So these may be circles, lines and happenstance, or there might be something very peculiar going on in the administration of justice in Canada.
00:18:04.680 And, you know, Mr. Lamedi talking to judges in that way, communicating to judges in that way, when you combine that with some of the things that were published recently about how judges are being selected, over 80 percent of them are liberal donors.
00:18:17.960 I think Canadians need to be very, very concerned about how judges are being selected and who's occupying these very, very powerful positions, which arguably, I mean, they're more powerful even than premiers or prime ministers.
00:18:32.980 Well, that is definitely a problem with the system of our government, that all of the judges in our country are appointed as opposed to being elected.
00:18:42.180 Some are elected in the United States, not the Supreme Court, obviously, and not the circuit judges.
00:18:47.380 But definitely at the state level, they are elected.
00:18:50.420 In the municipal level, they're elected.
00:18:52.540 And then maybe they try to move on in their career as judges sitting behind the bench.
00:18:57.240 but that takes a very long time and it takes a very long history of proper behavior not political
00:19:05.460 behavior but the politic politic sorry the politicization i have a rough time with that
00:19:11.940 that's the right that is the word yeah i know i know but it's tough for me to say it anyway of
00:19:18.260 our institutions the rcmp the court system uh you know even local police forces increasingly in the
00:19:24.940 past three or four years has become more and more political is there a way that we can stem this
00:19:31.120 tide do you think yes i well i can speak specifically about the about the judiciary
00:19:36.540 and i have been asked to make certain recommendations to uh the alberta government
00:19:41.860 hearing one of them is um you know all of this is what's called judge made law and in our system
00:19:49.200 of governance, and this applies to Canada, the United States, and Great Britain, it isn't the
00:19:55.520 role of judges to make law. Their job is to interpret and apply the law so that it's in a
00:20:01.060 way that's consistent with the Constitution, with the laws that are passed by the elected
00:20:05.440 legislatures, because we live in a democracy. The people who are making laws are our representatives,
00:20:11.280 and that expresses, in some degree, when things are working in the proper way,
00:20:16.540 the will of the people. But what has happened in recent years, and this, I believe, was the long
00:20:23.920 game of the Charter itself. This was Pierre Trudeau's life's work, was the Canadian Charter
00:20:28.780 of Rights and Freedoms. And it was always intended to be a subtle transfer of power
00:20:33.480 away from legislatures in this country to the judiciary. And then what happens is you select
00:20:40.280 the judges very carefully from a very small pool who tend to support what the prime minister
00:20:46.900 and his government or what the premiers want to have happen. And this subtle power shift
00:20:53.300 has occurred in our country. The way out of it, to answer your question, is that these judges
00:20:59.040 can only make law to the extent that they have discretion, that they have room to move.
00:21:05.960 And this distraction can be fettered, it can be restricted, it can be removed, and it should be.
00:21:12.200 So we actually could have laws, for example, there's a law on the books in Alberta,
00:21:18.660 and there's an equivalent one in Manitoba, called the Interpretation Act.
00:21:22.380 And it defines statutorily the way the judges are supposed to properly exercise their discretion.
00:21:27.120 And legislatures acting properly could actually pass laws that would state, for example,
00:21:32.740 that a judge, a sitting judge, is not to override a protected freedom, a human right, let's say in
00:21:41.700 a vaccine mandate type case, in order to enforce a public policy initiative. So there is a way to
00:21:48.980 do it, but it will take legislatures acting properly. And in fact, one of the major problems
00:21:56.140 that we're seeing in our governance today in terms of the way our legislatures are behaving
00:22:02.460 is because of this judicial interference in the lawmaking process.
00:22:07.460 In fact, if you look honestly at what's going on in Canada,
00:22:10.300 most of the laws that we have that govern us are really coming from the judiciary.
00:22:15.000 This is a big problem because we can't vote them out of office.
00:22:18.600 You know, it's interesting that you should talk about the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
00:22:23.360 I had Brian Peckford on the show about a year ago.
00:22:25.380 And obviously, the last surviving signatory of that document.
00:22:31.840 He would probably dispute you on what you just said regarding the charter being a document that was designed to slowly but surely move.
00:22:40.240 It was designed by Trudeau. I don't think it was designed by by Mr. Peckford at all.
00:22:44.320 I don't think I believe Mr. Peckford was well-meaning, but I believe it was Mr. Trudeau's intention to have it.
00:22:49.880 Mr. Peckford holds that constitution or that charter very dear because he was part of it.
00:22:55.400 Right. So, you know, he may take exception to that last statement.
00:22:58.680 having said that i do agree with you but you make it sound as though this is a generational thing
00:23:03.720 like pierre passed the baton to justin who is now executing executing the end game of the
00:23:10.200 original plan which is very interesting i think it's smarter people than justin are doing it but
00:23:15.400 i agree with you yeah i agree yeah there's probably the men in the gray suits in the
00:23:19.240 background who were probably executing this but the judicial notice issue is is a problem
00:23:24.360 Can we get around this? Because now, I mean, it has been proven these vaccines are not safe. They are not effective in the least. And so how can they take judicial notice that, in fact, that is the case? It is not gravity. It is not that water is wet or grass is green.
00:23:41.900 Well, you know, I'm going to come back to my previous point. What is to stop the Parliament of Canada or the legislature of Manitoba or of Alberta or any other province from simply passing a statute saying there's no longer anything called judicial notice?
00:23:59.300 Judicial notice is a construct of common law, has been with us for a very long time,
00:24:03.740 but it's a legal principle that is being abused by judges and governments.
00:24:08.320 That is patently clear.
00:24:10.260 And this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
00:24:12.780 Legislatures acting properly could legislate out of existence the whole concept of judicial notice,
00:24:17.500 which never, ever should have been applied to COVID-19,
00:24:21.300 because as we know, the whole concept of science, any rational scientist, ethical scientist will tell you,
00:24:28.340 that there never is any consensus in science, not really.
00:24:31.540 That's the whole point of the scientific inquiry.
00:24:34.020 And so really you could never take judicial notice of any scientific fact.
00:24:38.580 It would require the only way you could do this in court
00:24:40.900 is if the two sides that were in dispute would agree on a certain fact.
00:24:46.780 But that isn't judicial notice.
00:24:48.620 Judicial notice is a judge saying, look, it's so obvious
00:24:51.300 that there's something called the pandemic,
00:24:53.920 that we can't even argue about it.
00:24:55.860 And, of course, I can tell you from being in the courts and arguing these cases, that was never true.
00:25:01.260 I mean, I've gone through probably 20,000 pages of scientific studies.
00:25:06.360 And trust me, Shadow, there was no consensus on just about anything about COVID-19, except that it was not an existential crisis.
00:25:15.840 It was not a mass killer, thankfully.
00:25:18.260 That's the only good news about COVID-19.
00:25:20.180 uh leighton you know i did a quick search before you came on the show tonight uh through all of
00:25:25.460 the canada law societies and there are from what it looks like 136 000 lawyers not counting the
00:25:33.120 notaries the independent paralegals in in ontario and that's that would be a population uh higher
00:25:40.820 than red deer by a third yeah and yet over the past three years we have seen barely a handful
00:25:46.700 of lawyers come out in defense of people who have needed a defense and i can't even tell you
00:25:52.500 how many times people have gotten in touch with me via email message even you know phoning me
00:25:57.920 they got my number somehow and they said can you get me a lawyer please and i said i wish i could
00:26:01.820 help you but i i just don't know of many people who are taking on cases like yours right now
00:26:07.820 you are one of the ones one of the only ones you and rocco galati i guess and there's a couple of
00:26:13.100 others maybe in ontario and and uh obviously you know uh our friend keith wilson and eva chipiak
00:26:20.420 in alberta as well why did you decide to stand up against this because you have received a ton
00:26:26.380 of abuse in the past yes i have yes i have um you know i i'll put it to you this way i have a friend
00:26:34.240 uh who's a very high net worth individual and uh he but he's an atheist and he says you know what
00:26:41.260 is it about all you freedom fighters seem to be christians now that's not necessarily true but
00:26:46.400 it's certainly true in my case and um so that's part of it that's where we start you know um i'm
00:26:52.940 acting out uh my faith what i think i'm i'm called to do um i have a very strong sense of what what
00:27:00.400 the truth is and um and so uh i'm doing what i believe i'm called to do and that's to help people
00:27:06.980 who are in crisis and the crisis that we're dealing with right now i think is an existential
00:27:12.520 crisis between good and evil um but you know and um and i think anybody who's really paying close
00:27:18.280 attention people like you who are uh you know podcasting and trying to express uh some version
00:27:26.000 of the truth to people the truth uh are performing a very important role and i'm just a lawyer
00:27:32.900 who's doing what I can. This is my vocation, and so this is how I'm doing it.
00:27:38.080 The broader answer to your question, though, is why aren't there more lawyers
00:27:41.860 is a difficult one to answer, and it pains me very much that this is the case because I really see
00:27:48.540 the legal profession as really the vanguard. We're supposed to be standing on the ramparts,
00:27:55.320 really, to protect people's rights. That's a big part of what we've done throughout history. You
00:28:01.440 of someone like saint thomas moore uh the patron saint of warriors who really gave his life for
00:28:06.720 what he believed in uh because he you know he opposed the king uh you know that that ethic in
00:28:13.840 the legal profession is not prevalent enough and it's also true if you're paying attention that
00:28:21.840 most of the evil walks woke stuff actually has been incubated in law school so we're talking
00:28:27.200 about critical race theory uh queer theory diversity inclusion equity uh environmental
00:28:33.680 you know environmental catastrophe um all this stuff has been has come out of law school
00:28:38.960 law schools and part of the problem is that uh lawyers young law students over the past three
00:28:44.640 decades have been steeped in this stuff and they've learned this stuff instead of learning the law
00:28:50.560 and i don't want to paint them all with the same brush but i can tell you it's very difficult to
00:28:55.200 find good young lawyers now because they're not being educated in the same way as people of my
00:29:00.740 generation. You mentioned Keith Wilson. He and I were at the University of Alberta together a
00:29:05.680 million years ago. You know, there's not a lot of really bright young minds like Keith Wilson
00:29:09.000 coming out of law school anymore. And it's a really serious problem. There's a longer story
00:29:15.860 about how I got pulled into this. If you Google my name, you'll see that I got a first rate
00:29:22.140 treatment from bernie farber of the anti-hate network who's the prime minister's private
00:29:27.340 hatchet man sometimes with the cbc um because uh i spoke out in favor of meritocracy and also
00:29:34.620 early in the pandemic in 2020 i started writing and publishing and i said three things that got
00:29:40.460 me in a lot of trouble i said that black lives matters was a was actually a leftist you know
00:29:46.620 know communist front that was doing more harm to black people than good and they turned out to be
00:29:53.920 black you know big luxury mansions so i think i was right on that one uh i also said that i thought
00:30:00.740 that george soros was going to use his money and influence to interfere with the outcome of the
00:30:05.260 2020 presidential election so i think that one has been proven but the big one that got me in
00:30:10.560 trouble as i predicted early on that you that the trudeau liberals would mess around with the
00:30:15.380 emergencies act and that they would try to use it uh sometime during the pandemic they would use
00:30:21.620 the pandemic as an excuse to invoke it and we all know what happened there so i got sort of pulled
00:30:26.740 into into a vortex after that uh i got a kind of a road to damascus moment when i went through that
00:30:34.580 that cancel culture experience but i'm grateful for it now because it was something that i thought
00:30:40.420 was happening to me, but it was being done for me. And it just opened up this incredible
00:30:47.140 opportunity to represent so many brave Canadians. I can't even begin to thank them all.
00:30:54.540 Tens of thousands of Canadian workers. I'm still representing very brave pastors who face
00:31:00.900 persecution and imprisonment. And I actually had the opportunity, thanks to the good people at the
00:31:06.900 Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms to cross-examine the Chief Medical Officer of Health,
00:31:12.680 Dina Hinshaw, hopefully helped to get her fired and ultimately had all of her lockdown orders
00:31:18.880 declared illegal. So I've been really blessed to be in this space and I'm grateful for it.
00:31:24.020 And I wish more like you do, that more lawyers would sort of take up the sword and fight on
00:31:29.640 behalf because we really need this right now. There's a shortage of us who are willing to
00:31:35.820 you know, to take up the cause. However, I do believe in the end, more lawyers will come forward
00:31:41.900 and, and start to do it. I know that there has been an explosion of lawsuits against the Canadian
00:31:47.220 government. We've never had as many lawsuits in this country against the federal government as
00:31:52.120 we do right now. And it is having an impact, I can tell you, they're short of lawyers and
00:31:56.580 they're short of resources. And, and so we're going to continue the fight for as long as we
00:32:02.020 possibly can. I want to talk about your class action that you filed in September in just a
00:32:07.060 second. A little story about me, you know, funny you should mention the way the legal system has
00:32:12.240 gone and the shortage of good young legal minds. I was in court this past January to fight a couple
00:32:17.760 of COVID tickets I got here for, for appearing at rallies. And one was for hugging somebody
00:32:23.960 outside without a mask on. And I think the other one was for the same thing. But I remember
00:32:29.520 standing being sworn in for my testimony and the young court clerk looked up at me
00:32:35.260 and she said and how do you identify
00:32:38.040 now i i you know in a split second my mind is going i know exactly what she's talking about
00:32:48.080 but i'm not going to play and so i said what do you mean how do i identify you mean my ethnic
00:32:54.900 background what exactly are you looking for just to put her on the spot a little bit and the judge
00:33:01.120 was not having it right the judge looked at me and she said to me please answer the question i said
00:33:07.480 i'm trying your worship but i i don't know what the court clerk is getting at your gender i said
00:33:14.840 oh well have a look you figure it out for yourself and then i sat down the judge threatened me with
00:33:20.040 contempt at that point isn't that something i i just i couldn't even believe what i was going
00:33:27.820 through and i thought in that moment i had lost that case already i think and you know imagine
00:33:34.960 imagine shadow if the question was uh what your religion was right um we're not that far off you
00:33:43.020 know we we're going through a period right now where there is a secular religion that they're
00:33:48.500 trying to they're working very hard to replace and this is part of what the charter i believe
00:33:54.540 was intended to do um and uh and you saw this also an example of this recently uh where they
00:34:01.700 tried to prevent chaplains from uh from saying heavenly father or using christian prayers and
00:34:07.840 remembrance day of course there was a backlash and thank god uh you know we got a reprieve for
00:34:13.500 one year but this this is relentless and they're actually requiring lawyers to say their their
00:34:19.880 pronouns in court when i'm asked that question i simply say counsel um but it's an improper
00:34:25.140 question you shouldn't have to uh you shouldn't have to answer a question because it requires
00:34:29.800 you to subscribe to a false ideology a false religion you know that there is such a thing as
00:34:37.200 a gender separate from your sexual identity. Of course, this goes against everything that I
00:34:44.760 believe and I think what every sensible person understands innately to be true. But yeah, it is
00:34:51.960 very troubling to go into a court. Those are our courts, right? Those courts belong to the people.
00:34:58.900 And yet we have these woke ideologues sitting there imposing this stuff on a population that
00:35:06.420 the vast majority simply don't want this stuff um but you know again the judges have
00:35:13.360 exercised the discretion to oppose that stuff and a right-thinking legislature could legislate it
00:35:20.160 out of course i don't think that's going to happen on your new premier and his uh ndp government
00:35:24.700 not here no maybe in alberta yeah you know like alberta and saskatchewan is going to be our last
00:35:31.060 bastions of hope i think in this entire country i ask you know i ask everybody who comes on the
00:35:36.020 show, Leighton, this question, where is this coming from? And people mostly say, well, it's
00:35:42.400 the World Economic Forum, it's Klaus Schwab and whatnot. What's your take on all of this?
00:35:47.200 Well, I think that, as I said earlier, I believe that we're in an existential crisis where really
00:35:57.000 what we're dealing with is a battle between good and evil. And the reason why I say this is if you
00:36:01.720 look at, I just mentioned about the woke ideology, and really you can look at the World Economic
00:36:06.520 Forum and all the UN agenda in that context, it's all very confluent. But if you look at
00:36:13.940 satanic worship, really at satanism, it's indistinguishable from the woke ideology.
00:36:24.260 And what I mean is this, people think that satanism, people are praying to a guy with
00:36:31.080 a pointy tail and horns that's not it what satanic worship is is worship of self and when you look
00:36:38.540 at wokeness that's essentially what it is uh it's the worship of self it's it's an alienation from
00:36:45.120 uh from from the from other from the self from other people and from society and so this is this
00:36:51.720 is what we're seeing and i think uh the only way i mean that this wokeness this woke ideology
00:36:57.520 and all of all of the anti-human it's always expressed in anti-human measures whether it's
00:37:03.380 15-minute cities or you know carbon taxes or or anything else uh you know exterminating vast
00:37:10.640 uh numbers of human beings people like bill gates coming out saying we have to reduce the population
00:37:15.760 by seven eights all of this really is coming from one place and that is
00:37:20.460 this idea that these anti-human measures are necessary, and they simply aren't.
00:37:28.560 And I think the only solution, the only antidote to it, is what it has always been,
00:37:35.060 and that is a return to our traditional faith.
00:37:38.040 Because, you know, I'm going to say this in your program, people think, oh, a Bible-thumping lawyer.
00:37:43.120 But if you look at the Lord's second commandment, if we all live by it, I'd be out of work.
00:37:47.900 we wouldn't need lawyers we wouldn't need policemen we wouldn't need judges if we actually
00:37:52.660 loved our neighbors or were capable of loving our enemies we wouldn't have what we have over there
00:37:57.340 on the Gaza Strip we wouldn't have what's in the Ukraine we wouldn't have exploitation of children
00:38:02.280 we wouldn't have you know trafficking of them we wouldn't have all these things and I think that's
00:38:07.560 I see actually a rising tide of faith in the West in particular and I think that is going to be the
00:38:16.400 antidote to to chaos it's going to be expressed in a lot of different ways it's being expressed
00:38:21.400 right now by people like you in the media uh by you know the lawyers who are coming forth there's
00:38:26.820 a lot of very principled doctors um hopefully we're going to have some good people come through
00:38:31.620 in politics um this is going to have uh you know this is going to be expressed in many different
00:38:36.460 ways but i think that's the only antidote because what we're seeing is the end product of of
00:38:42.160 liberalism it's a failed ideology and i think it's just it's descended into nihilism and people are
00:38:47.520 realizing they're finally waking up and realizing you know this all this wokeness and at the core
00:38:52.840 of it there's no meaning and i so i think uh since you asked the question that's my take
00:38:58.000 i've told you what the problem is and i think i know the solution and it's been the same one for
00:39:02.920 about i don't know about two thousand years why is canada so woke when we look to the united states
00:39:09.900 we see people you know even politicians are not afraid to speak publicly about what's been going
00:39:14.980 on for these past three or four years but here in canada i mean the conservative party it seemed
00:39:20.160 like every political party was on board with the mandates and the masking and the vaccine and and
00:39:26.080 the only opposition they could muster was you're not getting us the vaccines fast enough and people
00:39:31.200 you know 80 or 85 apparently were all vaccinated and on board with this whole thing what is the
00:39:36.920 problem with this country? Well, I do have an answer. And it's from a wonderful book that I'll
00:39:42.460 mention to your viewers by an Alberta historian named Michael Wagner. It's called Leaving God
00:39:48.020 Behind. And Michael is a Christian, but he's also a brilliant historian. And he tells a story of a
00:39:55.860 generation ago, or maybe longer, going back to about the 1960s and 70s, when Canada was actually
00:40:02.880 a more religious country than the U.S. was.
00:40:06.360 We had a National Sabbath Day.
00:40:10.760 But what happened was, through the Charter,
00:40:13.900 what Pierre Trudeau, what his plan was,
00:40:16.220 what the Liberals' plan was, was to secularize.
00:40:18.720 He was an avowed socialist, a communist.
00:40:21.940 He was atheist.
00:40:23.420 And his goal was to create a,
00:40:26.220 was to completely secularize Canada
00:40:29.940 in the same way that Quebec is right now.
00:40:32.480 Some of your viewers might not realize that Quebec is so secular and so atheist that missionaries are sent from around the world to Quebec to try and start new churches.
00:40:44.860 That's how secular Quebec is.
00:40:47.520 So what has happened over the past couple of generations is we've had this increasing secularization of Canada to sort of make the rest of Canada over in the image of Quebec in terms of it being a purely secularized society.
00:41:04.320 And, of course, with that, we've had more of this wokeness.
00:41:07.360 We replace Christmas with the holidays, you know, and so more and more we've been drawn into this.
00:41:16.060 We've been seduced into this false religion, and we've moved away from, you know, from the Christian principles upon which, you know, the country is properly based.
00:41:26.420 And this is where we are.
00:41:28.240 This is where it's led us, and it's led us astray.
00:41:31.420 It's not too late.
00:41:32.920 I think it is going to change.
00:41:34.480 more and more people are realizing the absurdity of this wokeness. There's been a tremendous
00:41:39.840 backlash recently, as you probably noted, Shadow, where the left, the people who support all this
00:41:47.180 wokeness, realized how very anti-Semitic they were when they sided with the Palestinians
00:41:54.820 in these atrocities that occurred over in Gaza. That was shocking to many people.
00:42:00.200 And we have we have people actually walking through the streets in some of our major cities, you know, you know, queers for Palestine.
00:42:09.780 And how bizarre could that be? It's incredible.
00:42:12.860 They don't realize that, you know, that just being gay, you know, gets you gets you imprisonment or even death over over in those countries.
00:42:23.620 So you're thrown off a building. It gets you burned at the stake. It gets stoned in the street.
00:42:28.280 I mean, they don't get it.
00:42:29.000 I don't understand that.
00:42:29.920 It's mind-boggling.
00:42:31.140 It's incredible.
00:42:32.300 But yeah, as Canada has become more secular,
00:42:34.740 and this is why, interestingly, you know, Alberta, Saskatchewan,
00:42:39.440 you know, traditionally were Canada's Bible Belt.
00:42:41.880 And you say they're the last bastions of freedom.
00:42:44.220 I don't think that's a coincidence.
00:42:47.280 But I haven't lost hope in Manitoba.
00:42:49.380 I represent a lot of great people in Manitoba.
00:42:51.660 I love Manitoba very much.
00:42:53.040 My father grew up there in St. Boniface.
00:42:56.400 And, you know, there's a lot of great people.
00:42:58.760 I think Winnipeg, like Edmonton, is sort of lost to the Liberal Borg.
00:43:05.240 But, you know, that can change.
00:43:07.560 A heavy dose of an NDP government might just do the trick.
00:43:11.200 It certainly helped Alberta.
00:43:13.320 We're going to suffer through Wab Canoe for the next four years now.
00:43:16.820 Although I do have to say in his first month in power, he hasn't said anything that has alarmed me so badly.
00:43:23.960 At least he links the carbon tax.
00:43:25.440 That's good news.
00:43:26.780 Interesting, isn't it?
00:43:27.540 Let me play you a clip.
00:43:28.440 This came from the House of Representatives.
00:43:29.900 Oh, I saw this.
00:43:30.900 This is just...
00:43:31.700 Did you see this?
00:43:32.500 For you guys who didn't see this,
00:43:34.160 this is our minister of climate change, environment.
00:43:40.040 What's his name?
00:43:40.740 Gilbo, Stephen Gilbo.
00:43:41.900 Watch what he says at the very beginning of this clip, you guys.
00:43:44.580 Watch this.
00:43:45.020 I'm a minister speaker, so I was sitting.
00:43:47.860 I'm a liberal and a proud socialist, Mr. Speaker.
00:43:51.300 It doesn't matter what he says.
00:43:53.260 a liberal in the rest of them out loud yeah he is a liberal and a proud socialist in my opinion
00:44:01.240 there's no such thing as a socialist because socialism is simply a stop along the way to
00:44:06.320 communism right that's what it is and these guys are imposing this now what gets me about this
00:44:12.720 particular clip is that it hasn't been seen too many times yet and it's not alarming as many
00:44:18.260 canadians as it should which brings me back to a question i wanted to ask you a little while ago
00:44:22.360 when we were talking about very few good young legal minds coming up in this country.
00:44:27.560 It seems all of the people who are pushing back against all of this nonsense
00:44:31.240 that's going on right now are of a certain age.
00:44:35.040 Have you noticed that?
00:44:37.340 Yes, that is happening, although there are some exceptions.
00:44:40.140 There's a young Josh Alexander, and you raise a good point, Shadow.
00:44:45.680 However, I have a different take on that.
00:44:49.080 I think if you look back, for example, to the 1950s, you think of for when Elvis Presley came along, you know, and they couldn't, they could only film him on the Ed Sullivan show from the waist up.
00:45:01.400 In fact, some Bible thumpers got a court order that said that he had to stand in front of a crowd in Florida and not even move his body while he sang.
00:45:12.020 That was an example of sort of conservatism gone amok, gone too far.
00:45:17.520 And the counterculture that grew out of that was liberalism.
00:45:22.300 Well, you know how human affairs are.
00:45:25.760 You know, all of Newton's laws of motion apply to human affairs as well.
00:45:31.220 And I think what we're going to see, and this may horrify the woke crowd, is we're going to see, I predict, maybe the most conservative generation that we've ever raised in this country.
00:45:43.980 because we know young people glom on to counterculture and the counterculture right now
00:45:50.400 is conservatism and freedom uh that's you know that so that's my that's my 10 cent theory
00:45:57.380 buy it if you like but it seems to me it's borne out by history it's a very interesting point i've
00:46:03.900 been saying for a very long time now when is the pendulum going to switch back and start coming
00:46:08.840 back to the other side leighton let's talk about the lawsuit you filed in september uh representing
00:46:13.700 700 and counting canadians with three different categories in this class action can you please
00:46:19.140 uh explain it and are you accepting any new people because some people are messaging me
00:46:23.400 today asking can i get in on this it's it's many more than 700 now and um i'm just going to go back
00:46:29.560 a step to kind of explain the genesis of it because it ties into that the lark hole in the
00:46:33.980 winnipeg free press so we we tried we tried to sort of punch through um this the this uh
00:46:41.580 sort of punch a hole in the sky in that when the vaccine mandates came on
00:46:47.980 October 6th, 2021, when the, I mean,
00:46:51.760 the prime minister and the governor of Canada knew that they could not impose a
00:46:54.900 national vaccine mandate.
00:46:57.100 They actually thought very seriously about it.
00:46:59.200 And there's a legal opinion they got from,
00:47:01.900 from their justice department in 1996 told them they couldn't do it.
00:47:05.260 But they did the next best thing.
00:47:07.200 What Trudeau did is they have nearly a million people who work for the
00:47:11.420 federal government the federal government is now the largest employer in canada so they said you
00:47:15.060 know what we're going to impose these these vaccine mandates on every single crown corporation
00:47:19.840 federally regulated employer and so we tried to sue cncp west jet you know canada post purolator
00:47:28.180 and others and uh and basically we got stuff the court said look we won't hear these on behalf of
00:47:34.240 unionized workers so um we went back to the drawing board and we developed this this unvaccinated
00:47:40.640 class action. And what this action does is it says to the court, Canadians suffered,
00:47:49.280 about 7 million of us, suffered very severe actionable harm as a result of actions taken
00:47:56.220 by the federal government. This is against the Canadian government. And there's three classes.
00:48:01.860 One is a dual class. That's for people who fit into both the two classes I'm going to describe.
00:48:07.720 One class is for workers.
00:48:10.380 These are people who had their employment relationship with companies that I just described interfered with by the federal government.
00:48:18.860 So the action is against the federal government because if the federal government hadn't come along and told all these companies to impose vaccine mandates, these workers would have went along and their lives would have been fine, whether they're unionized or not.
00:48:31.180 So they can claim actual tortious harm against the governor of Canada for interfering in that contractual relationship.
00:48:40.640 The other class of plaintiff is a broader one that applies almost to every unvaccinated Canadian.
00:48:46.880 And this is the mobility class.
00:48:48.660 So we're saying that, you know, for a very long time, as you know, unvaccinated Canadians cannot get on a ship, a train or an airplane in this country.
00:48:57.540 We couldn't leave the country.
00:48:58.500 We couldn't travel around.
00:48:59.440 And we suffered all manner of harms. So the class action is a national class action. It's filed in the Federal Court of Canada Trial Division. It's very broadly based. It claims charter violations, including Section 2 of the charter, which is freedom of religion. Section 6, which is mobility rights. Section 7, which is life, liberty, security of the person.
00:49:22.680 Section 8, Unreasonable Search and Seizure, and also Section 15, which is equality rights for people who were denied eligibility for employment insurance simply because they refused to participate in a drug trial.
00:49:37.680 We've also claimed violations of the Bill of Rights, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, and we're seeking damages, damages for intentional infliction of mental suffering.
00:49:50.100 and, as I said, tortious interference in economic relations.
00:49:54.120 We also have included a claim under Section 3.1 of the Genetic Non-Discrimination Act of 2017.
00:50:01.920 And we've also claimed violations of the Assisted Human Reproduction Act of 2004.
00:50:07.000 But essentially, what this action claims and what it seeks are damages against the Government of Canada
00:50:13.300 for people who were harmed for no other reason than that they they refused to be injected with
00:50:20.420 a substance that we now know very clearly any anybody who's paying attention in fact it was
00:50:25.860 read in any any things that pfizer has put out uh that these things cause grievous bodily harm and
00:50:32.100 death um and so this is for the uh the people who have suffered harm as a result we have now um
00:50:39.380 rid of the thousands of people who've expressed interest in being involved in the class action.
00:50:45.320 Formally, the way a class action works, and you might be aware of the shadow, is we have a
00:50:50.320 representative plaintiff. In this case, his name is Chief Gregory Bork. He's a Métis, hereditary
00:50:55.780 Métis chief from Nova Scotia, a wonderful guy and tough as nails. And he is our representative
00:51:02.300 plaintiff. The case is going into something called certification. This is what happens with
00:51:07.200 the class action, where the court determines whether there is a proper cause of action there,
00:51:12.040 a reason to sue, that the case can go on to trial. We're expecting that the federal government is
00:51:17.000 going to vigorously oppose certification and do all their usual moves, try to bring motions to
00:51:22.060 strike and so on. Once the case is certified, once the claim is certified, then all of the other
00:51:27.500 people who want to be class plaintiffs, then they can become formally part of the class action.
00:51:33.700 What we're doing in the meantime is we're taking expressions of interest from people.
00:51:38.320 We're taking their information so that we can collect their data so that when the time comes when they can join, we have a database of people who are interested and want to be part of it.
00:51:48.960 I should mention also, and this is purely optional, for those people who want to participate in the crowdfunding initiative, they can do so.
00:51:56.940 It's a minimum contribution of a one-time donation of $300.
00:52:02.680 They do not need to pay that in order to be part of the class action.
00:52:07.100 There's no cost to be involved in the class action.
00:52:09.320 However, we're going to have to carry this on for quite a while.
00:52:12.440 We're fighting people who can literally print our own money to fight against us.
00:52:16.380 And so it is going to take money to sort of keep gas in the tank, keep this thing moving along.
00:52:21.900 The response to the crowdfunding has been really, really astonishing, really great.
00:52:26.600 I'm very grateful to people for doing that.
00:52:28.580 How much late is it going to take for this kind of an action to move forward?
00:52:33.400 Because it's going to take years, too, I think.
00:52:35.040 Oh, yeah.
00:52:35.260 I would say we've estimated between $1 million and $2 million to get the case through to the point where we realistically have a settlement.
00:52:50.300 The reality with class action is our goal, sort of getting the football across the goal line, is getting through certification.
00:52:58.560 Because with class actions, almost invariably, when you get the certification, the case will settle.
00:53:05.320 And of course, this government has a pretty strong track record of settling cases rather than litigating them.
00:53:12.980 And so that's what we're going for.
00:53:15.540 And we think it's going to take a couple of years at least or longer to get through the certification process.
00:53:21.180 But if people want information, they want to learn more, they can visit our website.
00:53:25.520 That's gwsllp.ca.
00:53:29.260 We have a newsletter.
00:53:30.600 We have information, you know, where they can submit their interest, their expression of interest in the case, and they can keep updated.
00:53:39.740 We also, every Monday night at 8 o'clock, we do an X live stream.
00:53:44.320 People can come on and ask questions.
00:53:47.180 We have a Q&A.
00:53:48.600 So we are looking for people to join this case.
00:53:51.980 In fact, the more the merrier, there's strength in numbers.
00:53:55.200 And, you know, it's going to be really a war of attrition that we're going to fight with this.
00:54:00.700 But we're not going to give up.
00:54:02.360 We're going to keep fighting to get justice for Canadians.
00:54:06.580 This was a very dark period in our history.
00:54:09.920 And it's not over.
00:54:11.140 And I think as time goes on, the complexion, the political complexion of this thing is going to shift considerably.
00:54:19.060 As you know, it has already, even in the last two years.
00:54:22.620 And I think as time goes on, I don't think this is going to fade into the rearview mirror.
00:54:27.060 I don't think it's that kind of situation.
00:54:28.740 I don't think we even scratched the surface of the harm that was done to Canadians, to the fabric of our society, by the way that we were abused and mistreated by our governments.
00:54:40.280 Let me ask you this, Leighton. You mentioned several sections of the Charter of Rights that you are putting into this lawsuit, but also you mentioned the Bill of Rights. And there have been a lot of arguments in the past couple of years. Can we use the Bill of Rights when we go to court as opposed to the Charter? Because the Charter's got Section 1, which allows the government to get out of it if they apply the Oaks test and all of that. So you've got both in there. Can you explain that, please?
00:55:06.980 Yeah, so the Bill of Rights is not considered, it's not entrenched, it's not part of our
00:55:13.420 Constitution per se.
00:55:15.500 It is, however, an important document.
00:55:17.780 It's a federal statute.
00:55:20.320 You know, it hasn't been repealed off the books yet, although I wouldn't put it past
00:55:23.880 the Liberals to do that.
00:55:26.000 And you're right, there isn't a Section 1 clause.
00:55:29.740 And so we still can't argue it in court.
00:55:32.860 One of the things that's happened in Canada, and it's a little bit strange, for some reason, and I know why from reading the jurisprudence, our courts, especially the Supreme Court, got the idea that the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and for that matter, Section 35 of the Constitution, which deals with Indigenous rights, are the be-all and end-all of our Constitution.
00:55:57.080 But actually, we have a very long tradition of constitutional law going back a thousand years.
00:56:03.880 And it's very strange to me that our courts are only looking at the Charter.
00:56:11.120 These other laws still apply.
00:56:13.100 Indeed, English common law, you know, still applies.
00:56:17.040 And just an interesting aside here, you know, during the COVID-19 pandemic,
00:56:23.420 your viewers will know, and this happened in Manitoba,
00:56:25.820 churches were shut down and uh in canada we went to court on cases like gateway um in manitoba and
00:56:34.320 and we got stuff because of section one well you know over in scotland uh where they went to court
00:56:40.840 and they challenged with no charter of rights and freedoms no bill of rights just with the
00:56:45.480 english uh constitution the you know the civil rights that have been in place and which we had
00:56:51.740 prior to the charter um magna carta were open you're talking about the magna carta yeah and
00:56:57.660 those churches were open in scotland the churches were open so here in scotland where they have the
00:57:03.980 rights that we had pre-charter that they actually are more free than we are in canada legally
00:57:09.340 speaking um so so this is uh this is something that uh that is a problem um but you know the
00:57:17.100 The Charter is a very young document, legally speaking.
00:57:19.960 You mentioned the Magna Carta.
00:57:21.260 That's 1215.
00:57:22.940 The Charter is a new document, and it's gone through a couple of different eras now.
00:57:28.900 And the era that we're in right now is where Section 1 is being very, very dominant.
00:57:35.680 But I don't think that's going to last.
00:57:37.640 I think the law tends to lag behind society and change society a little bit.
00:57:43.900 And I think the section of the charter that's going to become increasingly important is Section 24-1. Section 24-1 is a section of the charter that allows courts to grant remedies, things like damages, money.
00:57:59.740 And I think that we're coming into an era where we're going to have increasing constitutional litigation, and we're going to see more and more damages being rewarded against governments which violate the Charter.
00:58:14.540 That's my prediction, and if that isn't true, then we're all going into an authoritarian, totalitarian hell, and someone like Hannah Arendt will come along and write a book about it.
00:58:26.540 we're all going to have to stand up and i think more and more people are uh what's your take
00:58:31.620 quickly i know there's a publication event so you can't talk too much about the ins and outs of this
00:58:35.400 but what's your take on the situation with those guys uh from the coots uh border blockade the
00:58:41.340 four guys who were still in lock up now seven seven is it 700 days now yeah i'm far from i'm
00:58:48.120 far from an expert on this case because i haven't followed it as closely as some have my good friend
00:58:53.480 And Jason Levine is very steeped in this.
00:58:57.360 He knows a lot about that case.
00:58:59.120 My take, however, is that there's no question that these are political prisoners.
00:59:05.960 They're being treated differently.
00:59:07.740 And there's a serious question of whether or not the rule of law is being followed.
00:59:14.140 But, you know, I would say this also on the other side of the case.
00:59:18.460 um what the people what the truckers did in ottawa in terms of having a peaceful assembly
00:59:25.100 uh and going to ottawa and uh you know bouncing around in bouncy castles and saying go canada
00:59:32.480 that's very different from shutting down an international border uh shutting down
00:59:37.680 international border is is a very serious thing and uh and so that's and so that has to be dealt
00:59:44.160 with, you know, in terms of criminal prosecution, what I'm not convinced of is that, you know,
00:59:49.280 these guys are guilty of, you know, conspiracy to commit murder, you know, this type of thing.
00:59:54.880 The coup situation has a very January 6th feel to it. And it's very strange that these guys are
01:00:06.800 repeatedly being denied bail in a country where almost anybody is denied bail
01:00:12.900 without any justification whatsoever.
01:00:16.400 So I do think that there is this definitely this is a political trial.
01:00:21.020 But, you know, I also have to note that this that the prosecution is being is being run by the province.
01:00:29.220 So the province could put a stop for this any time.
01:00:32.320 But they don't seem to have any appetite to do it.
01:00:35.480 Now, this is what I wanted to ask you.
01:00:37.420 I mean, people are asking, can Daniel Smith just say stop?
01:00:40.000 Would that not be tampering in the judiciary like Trudeau got in trouble with with SNC-Lavalin, right?
01:00:47.060 Yeah, and we did have a scandal here during the election campaign where it was nearly disastrous for her.
01:00:56.060 Fortunately, she was able to weather that storm.
01:00:58.840 Yeah, I think she's being very careful, although that could change.
01:01:03.260 One of the things that I don't know if you folks in Manitoba caught this, but we had the United Conservative Party had their AGM in Calgary, and it was the most attended political convention in many years, some say in Canadian history.
01:01:19.200 We had 8,000 delegates there.
01:01:22.760 And what is very encouraging, hopefully will be encouraging for people in your province, is the board of 20 that basically runs the UCP has gone very grassroots, small C conservative.
01:01:37.440 The progressives had their day with Jason Kenney.
01:01:40.140 He was their guy, and they've been moved out.
01:01:42.920 And so Danielle Smith has been, she's been very astute, very careful.
01:01:47.280 during the first year or so that she's been in office.
01:01:52.180 But now she has a clear mandate and she doesn't have to worry about being ousted by that board.
01:01:59.480 And it's important to note for Alberta, you know, we haven't had a conservative premier finish in office,
01:02:07.540 finish their term in office since Ralph Klein in 2004.
01:02:10.900 This is a real concern for people who lead the United Conservative Party.
01:02:15.260 But she doesn't have that concern anymore.
01:02:16.740 And so I would not be at all surprised to see her start to govern in a way that is – I know, I happen to know that the UCP has a very clear agenda that they want to put forth, and it's going to make the woke people very unhappy in Alberta.
01:02:35.820 Well, you know, I liked a lot of the resolutions that were passed this past weekend, including the ones that you wrote two, three, and five. Am I correct?
01:02:43.780 Yeah, I did. I wrote three of them. Thanks for mentioning that. Yeah, it was my great honor to be able to do that.
01:02:48.580 Yeah. So and one more thing before I let you go. I wanted to talk to you briefly.
01:02:54.060 I know you're a proud indigenous man in Canada and you've got many honors and accolades and you've worked on behalf of Aboriginal peoples all across the country.
01:03:04.780 The Buffy St. Marie situation. How do you feel about that?
01:03:08.040 Well, it's very much a sign of the times, isn't it? You know, it's kind of bizarre. My late father once told me one time, he said, you know, Leighton, you can be ashamed of Indians, but you should never be ashamed to be an Indian.
01:03:25.940 And I never have been.
01:03:27.240 I've always been proud of them from the Carry the Kettle Band in St. Louis, Saskatchewan.
01:03:31.080 And, you know, but it's interesting that we now live in a world, a generation where people who are not part of the really an indigenous heritage are sort of ascribing this to themselves or trying to because now we have sort of a hierarchy of the oppressed.
01:03:53.020 and so and i think supplies across the board i think there are many more people
01:03:57.740 um i think there are many people who are claiming to be transgender
01:04:01.200 or otherwise lgbtq who actually are not i think there are people who are masquerading
01:04:06.480 as that in order to advance their careers um i think that this is the same true same is true of
01:04:12.800 people who are who are indigenous and uh it's really strange it tells you sort of
01:04:18.240 how perverse our you know our culture has become uh but you know to appropriate an identity
01:04:24.200 uh is is something in order to advance one's career uh is something that i think is uh you
01:04:31.860 know is disgusting and and shameful and what's worse is that you know she refuses to come clean
01:04:37.260 about it uh you know a little bit of honesty would suit her much better i think um but you know i
01:04:44.400 also by the same token i want to say that i don't believe in cultural appropriation uh i think that
01:04:50.800 canada and the united states uh are the shining examples to the world of multi-ethnic societies
01:04:57.040 that not not multicultural multi-ethnic societies uh that work well under a under a banner under a
01:05:04.960 common flag of shared values and and so i actually don't mind a bit when uh people who are quote
01:05:11.440 quote unquote, white or whatever, you know, want to get interested in, in, in indigenous culture,
01:05:16.720 I think it's great. I mean, I enjoy many different things about different cultures from food to music
01:05:22.120 and all those things. And I think that just enriches all of our lives. But to see someone
01:05:26.680 who sort of puts on a, you know, a culture like a suit of clothes in order to advance their careers,
01:05:33.720 I mean, to me is, I think is, is, is disgusting, but it doesn't surprise me to see something like
01:05:39.880 that connected with the cbc interestingly you said a common um banner like everybody getting
01:05:47.060 together under a common banner all the different you know values that we hold and beliefs that we
01:05:52.520 hold and whatnot and yet i found it interesting i put out a tweet a couple of months ago uh during
01:05:58.020 orange shirt day you know every child matters and i said how can you wear that t-shirt and believe
01:06:04.100 in abortion you're a hypocrite you would not believe the marxist heads exploding out there
01:06:09.640 after that one that was a pretty yeah it's a funny you know yeah and you know you mentioned
01:06:14.200 indigenous who among us is not indigenous we all are i mean the white people of europe are
01:06:19.800 ditches to europe the asian people are i mean we're all indigenous to some degree and to create
01:06:26.240 a separate class or you know separate emoluments or things like that for people i think uh you know
01:06:32.580 i think it does a disservice i don't i'm not a believer at all in an affirmative action uh i
01:06:38.700 believe in a pure merit you know meritocracy and that we're all capable of under that
01:06:45.280 structure we're all capable in bringing out the very best in ourselves and making contributions
01:06:51.520 to our families and our communities and our country uh i got in trouble for saying that
01:06:57.520 back in 2020 but i'm still singing the song leighton this has been an absolute pleasure
01:07:04.020 man thank you for coming on tonight i would love to do this again with you thanks shadow i really
01:07:08.400 enjoy your your show thank you for being a beacon of uh freedom salt and light to people who want
01:07:14.000 to get you know real truth in media uh we need more like you thanks thanks so much for having
01:07:19.580 me on your program how do you by the way how do you find time to do a podcast for goodness sakes
01:07:24.200 you're busy with all these cases yeah i my my wife is a saint uh but yeah i you know i just
01:07:31.660 i have the energy to do it and uh i know where the energy comes from and it's not me
01:07:35.940 amen thank you for coming out we'll talk all right thank you okay there is Leighton Gray
01:07:41.940 who I think is a a shining light I mean he has taken on so many cases and he's willing to take
01:07:49.560 on more it's just a matter of having the time to do it guys I have one more thing to show you
01:07:56.340 before we wrap it up for the night and I thought this was kind of funny well by the way Tucker
01:08:01.580 carlson is going to be in calgary in january of next year go to tnc.news there's that little
01:08:08.400 banner there if you want to go see tucker carlson in january in calgary click on that little banner
01:08:12.980 there i'm sure you'll be able to find your way to getting tickets for that event he's going to be in
01:08:16.760 conversation with danielle smith oh and by the way i'm sorry to tell you this um uh let's see
01:08:23.440 dr peter mccullough that show on thursday night in red deer has been sold out however there are
01:08:31.280 some people who now can't go and they're trying to sell their tickets uh you can find a post on
01:08:37.100 canadians for truth on facebook regarding that sellout and then the people in the comment section
01:08:42.160 saying i have two tickets we can't we can't go anymore a prior engagement has come up so if you
01:08:47.600 want to go check out that post on the canadians for truth facebook page you may be able to get
01:08:53.420 a couple of tickets uh to go to that event again that's thursday night in red deer look at this
01:08:58.360 This headline says it all.
01:09:00.420 Ottawa.
01:09:01.100 No, no, no.
01:09:01.580 We shouldn't say Ottawa.
01:09:03.380 This is a grave mistake that a lot of left-wing corporate media make
01:09:07.140 that seems now to have moved over to True North and Rebel News and other places.
01:09:14.100 It's not Ottawa.
01:09:15.340 It's the Trudeau government, the Trudeau liberals.
01:09:19.340 Let's not say Ottawa.
01:09:21.680 They don't represent Canada.
01:09:24.020 They never really have represented Canada.
01:09:28.360 It's the Trudeau government spent $669,650 on consultants for advice on how to save money on consultants.
01:09:43.220 Ridiculous.
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