00:03:38.320It's Wednesday, April 3rd, 2024, and this is the Shadow at Night live stream.
00:03:44.740Dallin Lege, who is one of the road captains on the nationwide carbon tax protest,
00:03:50.660is going to join us in just a couple of minutes.
00:03:53.100We do have some very touching video to play for you very soon as well.
00:03:58.100A guy named Cosmo the Trucker, who was at one of the Alberta protests, walked up and down the line of the military police squadron that was sent out yesterday, asking to shake hands.
00:04:12.380And some of the cops remained stoic, stone-faced, said nothing, didn't look at them.
00:04:19.460And some of the other cops, you guys may have seen this video, but if you haven't, please stick around because I'm going to play it for you.
00:04:25.960some of the other cops looked like they were almost set to break down in tears it was really
00:04:36.680quite a variety of reactions that cosmo the trucker got from these cops something that
00:04:44.640somebody not just somebody a couple of people actually asked me if i would do tonight is
00:04:49.100apologize to the woman from the video last night the woman that was screaming and i said shut up
00:04:54.900I'm not going to do that and here's why
00:22:38.760The first two days, I'm going to say about 75% of the vehicles that passed were honking, arms out the window, fist pumping, phones recording.
00:23:33.740Awesome. Hold on, Dallin. You were saying this morning, and I know you're probably going to get to this, but I'm curious and I want you to get to it now. You were saying we need numbers because we have a plan. How many do you need?
00:23:47.620no no we just every morning we have we go through the code of conduct the mission statement we just
00:23:53.580we try to run a tight ship here we want everybody here to know um what the mission is and that
00:23:59.120mission is to stay here as long as it takes to get the carbon tax abolished now we're always trying
00:24:03.800to figure out with numbers you know are we going to be on the one side of the highway where we're
00:24:07.640going to be on both east and westbound on the shoulders and and of course that takes communication
00:24:12.920with the liaison officers so essentially we try to make that plan in the morning of exactly what
00:24:18.420we're going to do to be able to communicate that back to the officers and ensure for a smooth safe
00:24:23.120protest right so are you disappointed and you know i haven't said anything about this
00:24:31.820this is the third day i haven't said anything about this not your particular location i don't
00:24:37.240want any one location across the country to think i'm picking on them because i'm not but what i've
00:24:43.100been seeing is um some locations that just don't have the people that they need in order to stand
00:24:50.740up and make the cops think twice before they start messing around with you oh shadow you're
00:24:55.680bang on and and that was that was where my emotion came from this morning and and it wasn't
00:25:01.180frustration it was straight from the heart it was canadians where are you there is at our location
00:25:07.080specifically 20 of us sleeping in vehicles doing what needs to be done all night long we have trucks
00:25:13.000honking the horns we got a little fire going we got some lights the strobes flashing you're waking
00:25:18.480up to horns honking and nobody's even standing along the side of the highway so to me that video
00:25:25.260was like saskatchewan manitoba where are you guys and you know i came to the realization
00:34:52.960And immediately, another officer stepped in
00:34:55.780and went whoa whoa whoa and the lady backed up and he said tanner i'd like you to call your liaison
00:35:02.820the person that you've been communicating with regarding all this organization and so on and so
00:35:07.880forth please talk to him and we'll say if we can get this through this and the lady backed off and
00:35:13.860went away and as this was happening the rcmp blocked completely blocked oncoming traffic coming
00:35:21.460down the number one highway coming westbound in that time there was approximately 80 vehicles
00:35:27.660completely blocked not by us by rcmp sorry just giving a wave to the honks um blocked by the rcmp
00:35:38.600and uh once we kind of backed up and so on and after about 10 minutes they started letting them
00:35:44.340go through again so that's we we kind of had to take some time to reassess things and talk some
00:35:50.740things over kind of what what was their reasoning for blocking the cars all of a sudden i have no
00:35:58.040idea i i don't know i i even got out and i did a live real quick they're not alive i started
00:36:02.820recording and i walked out and you could see all the traffic stopped and and whatnot so i walked
00:36:08.180up to each officer and i asked i would like your name and your badge number every single officer0.99
00:36:13.760was very polite and answered the questions except for that one female officer who had that aggression
00:36:21.480in her eyes she asked me what yeah she asked me she said what's your name so i told her tanner
00:36:28.000milligan she asked me my birthday and i said you don't need to know that so i said i want your badge
00:36:34.260number and your name she said her name but she refused to give me her badge number all the other1.00
00:36:42.120officers gladly complied with a smile and gave me their information but she stone cold faced1.00
00:36:48.980turned around and walked away do you think she was she a ranking officer or did she seem like a
00:36:55.260like a rookie a newbie no i don't think she definitely wasn't a newbie i'm not going to
00:37:01.340give out her rank just for courtesy sake per se uh but i'm maybe giving them a bit more courtesy
00:37:07.060than they deserve right now but i'm that kind of guy i'll give them the courtesy do you think that
00:37:11.640So the cops should be allowed to wear masks on duty?
00:37:14.980No. I mean, unless it's 40 below and your face is freezing, then put a mask on.
00:37:20.360But other than that, no. You are a representative of the people.
00:37:24.000We should be able to see who that representative is.
00:37:28.400Exactly. So what's the plan for tomorrow, you guys?
00:37:31.420And by the way, there's people who are watching every single night.
00:37:35.020They watch this show. They say they're from southeast Saskatchewan.
00:37:37.740They say they're from southwest Manitoba. You guys are in the wheelhouse.
00:37:41.640as to where these two guys are we need you to show up at this border site tomorrow uh bright
00:37:47.460and early if you can sometime through the day if you can do you think the cop like you get a sense
00:37:53.800from these cops depending on which ones are on duty how the day is going to go no you know the
00:38:00.460individual is probably at the peak of this the first two days and into this morning there was
00:38:06.420probably anywhere from 20 to 25 cruisers spread out over this three mile stretch it was absolutely
00:38:13.940overkill where are they coming from where are they stationed are they coming from brandon and
00:38:18.500regina they ended up renting a building and moose them in the closest kind of major city to us not
00:38:25.360a city it's a bigger town in saskatchewan yeah it's 3 000 people now come on let's not give it
00:38:31.380so much credit it's been a long day here uh that was there was the command center
00:38:38.480they rented a trailer command center there so they've got it so they're very close they're 10
00:38:45.060minutes away but they had to sit here and and the excuse for not allowing us on the highway
00:38:50.860was they don't have enough resources they kept saying we don't have the resources
00:38:56.480and we kept saying back to him well he had 25 cars sitting out here 24 7 for the last several days
00:39:03.420one would have been nice at the start of the protest grounds to slow people down to 60k and
00:39:09.720ensure everybody's safety two maybe the protocol how's the liaison officer been has i'm not sure
00:39:16.920if it's a matter woman how have they been with you have they been reasonable you know i've i've
00:39:21.760been dealing with as one of the organizers of this whole crazy charade i should say i should
00:39:26.800say straight uh um endeavor let's call it um uh you know we uh trying to think how the best way
00:39:36.120to word this um you know we we received a lot of flip-flopping back and forth forth i guess
00:39:43.040you know they they try to push their way in a little bit and we have to compromise in some
00:39:50.140aspects you know just to make sure that we get what we want but we want to make sure that we're
00:39:55.020not you know getting pushed back too far so there has been a times where i've i've had to literally
00:39:59.640take my foot and draw a line in the sand and say this is this is it this is where we stand
00:40:04.740and i reiterated to one of these officers the other day i said we're not changing any more plans
00:40:10.020i'm done this is the line in the sand and i even held my arms out and i said if you're ready to
00:40:16.000arrest me here you go let's get it over with and get it done and the officer stood back and said
00:40:21.820no no we don't want to do that so the liaison in that sense was pretty respectful in that part
00:40:27.100he's been communicated with me for the majority of things other than the flip-flops but we've
00:40:32.720worked through it and we've came to a reasonable agreement on both sides of the table for this
00:40:40.020area that we are going to be allowed to continue without any more police harassment involvement
00:40:46.300they are going to let us have our peaceful protest and continue on for as long as we can
00:40:52.060and for however long we see fit as long as you don't step one foot out on that road or even on
00:40:57.520the shoulder correct we have we set up a little bit of a buffer zone per se for safety reasons
00:41:03.160as well because i mean we don't want anyone putting themselves in harm's way because we've
00:41:07.660That's one thing that we've stressed. Right from square one, safety is our number one priority. There's no question about that. So we made sure that we set up a buffer, set up a buffer so no adults go too far forward. We also set up another buffer so that way the kids don't go too far forward.
00:41:26.120so we're we're taking a lot of steps to make this as best as safe as possible without rcmp
00:41:33.380interference and one thing i will say that the rcmp said directly to me they said we realize now
00:41:40.260because when they showed up they didn't know what to expect they said we realize now you guys are
00:41:46.480not the antagonizing site protesters you guys are the peaceful protesters we can see it in your
00:41:53.920hearts and we can see it in your eyes as you and dylan as leads and organizers well yeah um we know
00:42:01.100you guys are in good places we know they're in good hands we wish you guys the best of luck
00:42:06.100and that felt pretty good to finally kind of hear them say that how did they not recognize i'm sorry
00:42:14.620to interrupt you tanner how did how did they not recognize that the second they laid eyes on you
00:42:19.460guys i mean it's not like you're waving palestinian flags and chanting from the river to the sea here
00:42:26.640i mean you you guys are the epitome of prairie canadians you know what shadow
00:42:32.800the thing is though you can have the best relationship with these officers with these
00:42:38.280liaison officers the one could have been my best man at my wedding but when the order comes down
00:42:43.940from the top that this is what they have to do they then make that choice and what we're seeing
00:42:50.820right now is a lot of these officers are making the choice to follow the orders
00:42:56.100and that's that's what we're seeing here across the board at these protests is
00:43:00.100every one of us team leads has had a tremendous relationship with their liaison officers
00:43:06.180the officers that are on duty here oh if i could share some of the conversations we've had
00:43:11.380the positive conversations we've had but they're not allowed to express that they're not allowed
00:43:17.420to show that they have to do it in secret but when the order comes from the top it doesn't
00:43:23.980matter how those officers feel and and that's the biggest thing that a lot of these people
00:43:28.360like people aren't understanding is you've got those screaming at the officers you've got those
00:43:33.280showing the love and kindness and it's that's that's my style the love and kindness and the
00:43:38.720frustration comes out when i realize that it didn't matter because the guy that's calling
00:43:44.340the shots has no idea that i'm a peaceful loving law-abiding citizen that just wants her voices
00:43:50.440heard it would be nice it would be nice to see some of these cops stand down i don't think we're
00:43:59.280gonna but it would be nice to see like just we're with you guys because you know you saw in that
00:44:04.460cosmo the trucker video i'm sure you saw some of the faces on those cops and they did not want to
00:44:11.700be there doing what they were doing as a matter of fact i even got the impression that some of
00:44:16.460these cops were on our side but there they were still you know i i said to the liaison officer i
00:44:24.220said uh you know in the end we all bleed red we're all canadians we all are cut from the same cloth
00:44:31.760And I said, our hope one day is when you take that little piece of metal that you have right here and you take it and you throw it on the ground and you walk across that line and you stand beside your brothers and sisters, your fellow Canadians, and stand for what is right.
00:44:52.140I mean, if they all did that all at once, that'd be the game would be up because they don't understand that.
00:45:00.860They are the only thing that is allowing Trudeau to get away with enforcing this ridiculous tax.
00:45:08.440Guys, thank you so much for joining the show tonight.
00:45:11.160Really appreciate you taking the time.
00:45:13.360And we really appreciate everything you are doing and you have done and you will do.