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00:02:00.000 hey everybody how you doing welcome it is shadow at night for wednesday january the 24th

00:02:19.320 2024 special guest on the show tonight is tom marazzo now i know i said ken drivesdale from

00:02:24.700 the national citizens inquiry was going to be on tonight and ken lee from the manitoba

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00:02:34.220 that out early this morning so i thought you know what i gotta get a hold of tom i saw him on with

00:02:39.260 andrew lawton at true north yesterday talking about this unconstitutional ruling that came out

00:02:46.080 from the federal court of canada yesterday everybody was shocked about it because nobody

00:02:50.040 was expecting it and nobody was expecting a ruling like that so tom's got some insights on that and

00:02:56.580 also because tom is a member or a former member of the canadian armed forces i want to get his

00:03:02.540 opinion somewhat on the turn our forces have taken in regards to tampons in men's rooms and

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00:07:22.420 was talking about the decision that came out yesterday regarding justin trudeau's

00:07:27.780 unconstitutional overreach with the Emergencies Act on February the 14th of 2022. And here's

00:07:35.020 what she said. Since day one, Alberta, by the way, Danielle Smith, in case you don't know,

00:07:40.420 is the premier of Alberta. Since day one, Alberta has been clear that the federal government's

00:07:46.780 decision to invoke the Emergencies Act during the COVID-19 pandemic violated the constitutionality,

00:07:53.780 guaranteed rights of Albertans and gave the federal government the ability to seize property

00:08:01.100 without due process of law. The decision of the federal court today that the use of the emergency

00:08:07.960 orders under the Emergencies Act was unreasonable and a contravention of the Act. This court decision

00:08:14.280 reaffirms that regulations under the Act violated charter rights to freedom of expression and that

00:08:20.500 the orders infringed upon the rights of Albertans and Canadians to be free from unreasonable search

00:08:25.960 and seizure. Today is another example of the federal court ruling against the federal government's

00:08:32.360 unconstitutional practices. Whether it's today's court decision or their defeat on plastics

00:08:37.920 or the Impact Assessment Act, it's clear the Trudeau Liberal government simply does not

00:08:43.360 understand or respect the Constitution of Canada. We're disappointed that the federal government

00:08:50.440 has indicated they'll be appealing this decision. The unnecessary use of the Emergencies Act set a

00:08:56.100 dark and dangerous precedent, and if the federal government will not acknowledge that fact,

00:09:02.660 Alberta will continue to champion the Charter of Rights of Albertans and of all Canadians.

00:09:08.560 We want to thank the Canadian Constitution Foundation and the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, as well as all the parties involved in initiating this legal challenge.

00:09:18.180 By the way, frontline nurses did not have standing, so they weren't included in the final judgment for this case.

00:09:25.360 For their dedication to protecting and upholding the rights and freedoms of Canadians, we continue to review the federal court's reasons and will be prepared to intervene in the federal appeal should the Trudeau government move ahead with their appeal.

00:09:41.840 i found it amazing and i mentioned that on the show last night here's our guest tonight tom

00:09:45.980 morazzo uh tom you've been saying this for quite some time and the results last year at the

00:09:52.660 emergencies act commission did not what we wanted so were you surprised when this came out yesterday

00:10:00.000 you must have been so uh truth be told i i started to get a head cold the last couple of days and i

00:10:06.080 was um sleep like i was sleeping at noon still on the couch i fell asleep and uh i wasn't feeling

00:10:14.280 great i was just trying to give myself 24 hours and i thought okay i'll be fine after that

00:10:18.920 and so i left that i know i didn't know i didn't know and i went up to the bedroom and as i'm

00:10:25.380 walking up i'm checking my phone and my phone's blowing up and 20 minutes later unshaven no

00:10:30.520 shower didn't even brush my teeth i'm on andrew lawton um you know talking about this thing

00:10:36.000 Yeah, so, but I do want to say two things here for your comments about Danielle Smith, and it's a great comment that she made, but I want to say this.

00:10:46.460 There's two names I want to give that were missed in that tweet.

00:10:50.560 Vince Gerses, Eddie Cornell.

00:10:53.480 Those were the two people.

00:10:54.980 Vince Gerses, retired OPP officer, Ontario Provincial Police Officer, 34 years.

00:11:00.340 and, uh, Eddie Cornell retired Canadian artillery, uh, soldier for the Canadian army were the two

00:11:08.440 plaintiffs on that case. They are the two that brought that judicial review, uh, against the

00:11:14.660 government, uh, the government of Canada. So these are the two names that I would hate to see get

00:11:19.640 left out because without Eddie and Vince, we wouldn't be talking about this today.

00:11:25.480 you know what's amazing is so many people think that they can't do anything right they're helpless

00:11:32.460 they're just an average canadian who's trying their best to get by especially with all of the

00:11:37.560 all of the chaos that the trudeau government's created these past few years but you know i mean

00:11:43.340 these two people you just mentioned they are just regular private citizens private canadian citizens

00:11:48.680 and they got involved in this they brought the case to the federal government and look what's

00:11:53.060 happened um yeah this this appeal that they promised to do yesterday do you think they're

00:11:59.640 seriously going to do that or is that just a knee-jerk reaction i think they will do it um

00:12:05.740 and i've been you know i'm in a chat group with brendan miller and you know you remember brendan

00:12:10.580 miller miller from the um public order emergency commission okay well well it used to be famously

00:12:18.760 referred to as Miller time, uh, every time he went and cross-examined. Uh, so we had Brendan

00:12:24.220 Miller, uh, Keith Wilson and Eva Chippew. You know, I'm in this chat group with the three of

00:12:29.780 them. And there was a lot of lively discussion about the appeal today. And, uh, you know,

00:12:35.200 one of them believes that, uh, it, it doesn't make sense. Like why would you appeal it? And

00:12:40.300 then two of us are like, no, they're going to appeal it because this is politics. This isn't

00:12:45.600 about the law, right? So my perspective on this, they don't have, the liberals don't really have

00:12:50.860 a choice in appealing it. They have to appeal it because I think what it does is if you go to an

00:12:57.560 appeal, now they can go back to their voters because we're looking at an election year coming

00:13:02.140 up. They'll go back to their voters and say, well, that's an unanswered question, isn't it?

00:13:06.580 Because we disagreed, we're the government, we have a team of lawyers, we have the Justin

00:13:11.300 department that, you know, advised us and, you know, all these other lawyers, Lamedi's a lawyer.

00:13:17.820 So it's an unresolved question. And so they can get away with that narrative if they go into an

00:13:23.700 election. If they just roll over and say, we're not going to appeal it, that's as good as admitting

00:13:28.880 that they were wrong. And they're going to be admitting they were wrong going into an election

00:13:35.000 with i i lost track of all the scandals that this government has been involved in um so it's just

00:13:42.680 one more right and so i i think and don't forget they're not using their own money to appeal this

00:13:49.340 they're using our money to do this right right so they don't have anything to lose in your discussion

00:13:56.940 today in the chat group with eva and with keith and with brendan yeah did they say uh mention like

00:14:03.480 what kind of timeframes we're looking at here.

00:14:05.500 And, and when that ruling came down yesterday, I mean, a lot of people were commenting that

00:14:11.240 this ruling could open the door to a lot of lawsuits from thousands of people who were

00:14:17.280 affected by this.

00:14:18.500 Yes.

00:14:19.120 So great questions, because that was one of the ones I had too, which was, you know,

00:14:24.140 Brandon's opinion is this is a federal court of appeal, right?

00:14:28.200 So they, they're less busy than your normal federal court.

00:14:31.700 I think the Supreme Court of Canada only hears about 40 cases per year.

00:14:36.360 So this is a federal court of appeal that it has to go to first.

00:14:40.900 And if it's struck down and they appeal again, then it'll go to the Supreme Court.

00:14:46.160 But Brendan Miller's opinion was that, you know, this could happen very quickly within a matter of about four months, that this could see the inside of a courtroom.

00:14:55.020 So it's possible.

00:14:56.560 um whether they're successful uh Bruce Party who is a brilliant lawyer and he's a law professor in

00:15:04.300 Canada um you know I've I've heard some discussions about uh you know Bruce's opinion on this thing

00:15:11.060 and really from my understanding Bruce has read the the decision from uh the the judge

00:15:18.140 and he can't find any fault in the law in the logic like there's no real opening there for an

00:15:24.260 appeals. So even if they appeal, they'll appeal for political decisions, but the case seems to be

00:15:32.220 pretty airtight. But again, this is the law. Lawyers get paid thousands of dollars an hour

00:15:40.160 to manipulate the law. And, you know, some of them are really good at it. And, you know,

00:15:46.240 what we saw at the Public Order Emergency Commission was that the Justin department

00:15:50.680 didn't have very good lawyers. So they used our tax dollars to go and hire thousand dollar an hour

00:15:56.820 litigators to go in and do all of that stuff for us. And so, you know, again, this is using

00:16:03.900 taxpayers money to go against the wishes of Canadians and the courts. You know, remember

00:16:10.100 the convoy was about the public telling Justin Trudeau that we knew he was violating the law.

00:16:17.420 So what did he do?

00:16:19.100 He doubled down and he invoked the Emergencies Act.

00:16:22.660 And now we've got a federal judge saying, yeah, the convoy was right, you know, and

00:16:28.760 your use of the Emergency Act was illegal.

00:16:31.500 So to go to your second question about the lawsuits, I've had a couple of discussions.

00:16:36.700 I spoke to Eddie Cornell today and, you know, I've got my own decision to make too, because,

00:16:43.280 you know, my bank accounts were frozen.

00:16:45.620 So do I sue the federal government because they froze my bank accounts?

00:16:52.320 They put my son's life in harm because I couldn't buy medication from my son's heart.

00:16:57.460 Okay, so I'm trying to weigh the pros and cons of this because unfortunately we can't

00:17:06.920 sue Justin Trudeau.

00:17:08.320 We have to sue the office of the prime minister basically, right?

00:17:13.680 So this is, in effect, us suing the taxpayers.

00:17:18.460 They're the ones who are going to have to foot the bill for this.

00:17:21.060 If I lose, it's going to be on Tom Marazzo to pay the government's costs.

00:17:25.200 But if I win, it's going to be on the taxpayers to pay Justin's cost.

00:17:30.180 So the dilemma now becomes, do we sue for the fullest amount possible,

00:17:36.820 take that money, and do things for Canadians?

00:17:39.980 all these people that have all these lawsuits or not lawsuits sorry these criminal charges

00:17:46.540 do we take that money and do we dedicate it to Canadians who need to defend their criminal

00:17:53.700 charges as a result of participating in the freedom convoy or do we just not do anything

00:17:59.760 and let Justin Trudeau give our money to places like Ukraine and Hezbollah Israel and every other

00:18:06.880 cause that is not canadian okay while i sympathize for all these other nations right now based on the

00:18:14.380 way our economy is we need to start focusing on canadian issues and getting our economy in order

00:18:20.360 and you know we'll talk about the canadian armed forces i'm sure oh yeah absolutely let me ask you

00:18:26.460 this tom was there any discussion in your uh in your talks with eva or keith or brendan about

00:18:34.360 possible lawsuits being brought against the police

00:18:37.600 forces who were involved in beating those people

00:18:40.800 in the streets once the emergency act was invoked.

00:18:43.280 I mean, we had horses trample people.

00:18:45.680 We had people beaten with batons and butt ended

00:18:48.200 with guns.

00:18:49.900 There was a lot of injuries.

00:18:51.680 There was a lot of injuries and always for me

00:18:54.360 the most horrific one, you know, there's a couple,

00:18:57.120 but as a former veteran or as a veteran, the one

00:19:00.760 that really stands out for me is always Chris Deering,

00:19:03.140 you know who's a combat veteran from afghanistan who was almost killed and was viciously beaten by

00:19:09.520 police arrested you know denied pain medication while he was being processed and then driven out

00:19:16.880 to the country and dropped off on the side of a road 20 kilometers outside the city okay so

00:19:22.340 yeah exactly in minus 30 so i'm i look at um those particular cases although we did not discuss that

00:19:31.060 in the chat group you know i think there's a little bit of euphoria about the decision yesterday

00:19:35.560 which is being tempered by the decision of the liberals to appeal but by and large you know the

00:19:43.020 the euphoria is still pretty good and of course tucker carlson's in in alberta right now with

00:19:48.440 jordan peterson conrad black on stage with daniel smith so the country right now is let's say on the

00:19:56.100 the right side of the spectrum is feeling pretty good today.

00:19:59.560 Uh, but to answer your question about suing the police, just again, you got to remember

00:20:05.320 the police are agents of the government, right?

00:20:08.860 So, um, I can't, there's no discussion about it.

00:20:12.820 They do have a certain shield of protection around them, don't they?

00:20:16.220 They do.

00:20:16.780 They do.

00:20:17.380 Yes.

00:20:18.180 Which for me, I was more interested in actually filing a lawsuit against the banks, but Brendan

00:20:23.280 has assured me that I've got a 0.00% chance of being successful against the banks. Because

00:20:33.040 when they invoked the Emergencies Act, it legally obligated the banks to do what they did. But I

00:20:39.900 want to qualify that. Because they also gave the same order to the insurance industry. And the

00:20:46.640 insurance industry pushed back and said, like hell, you had better at least push this through

00:20:52.060 the house of commons and through the senate and if you ratify it in both houses then we will

00:20:59.120 reconsider your position but the insurance industry pushed back where the banking industry didn't and

00:21:05.960 to this day i keep hearing stories where people still haven't had their bank accounts restored

00:21:10.520 two years later right so i think i think uh you know my preference would be to go after the banks

00:21:19.840 but they were given sort of this, this, um, indemnity from the, the federal government

00:21:26.800 because under the legislation they were ordered and you know how banks are, right?

00:21:30.580 They're gonna, they're gonna do what the government tells them to do as long as the

00:21:36.060 government can offer them the per the legal protection, then they'll do whatever they,

00:21:39.980 you know, they're told to do.

00:21:41.940 Um, but what was disturbing to me and I, and I, I say this in a way, so people reflect

00:21:48.040 on this. During the invocation of the Emergencies Act, the banks were deputized into a branch of

00:21:56.940 law enforcement in this country. Now you think about that. The banks were now deputized in a way

00:22:04.520 that went straight to punishment. Okay. This is what Daniel Smith was referring to about the due

00:22:11.060 process. There wasn't a due process. I've never had a warrant for my arrest. I've never been

00:22:17.900 charged. I've never been in court and I've never been convicted. But the government of Canada,

00:22:23.280 through the enabling of the banks who were deputized into a law enforcement action,

00:22:31.060 seized my bank accounts. And by the way, crypto is not that safe either because I have a very

00:22:37.800 small account of cryptocurrency through Wealthsimple, and I had no access to my crypto

00:22:43.260 accounts either. Have you thought about gold and silver at all? I do often think about gold and

00:22:51.060 silver. I have a different sort of philosophy right now. Gold and silver is, I think,

00:22:59.060 a, a, you know, it, it stores wealth very well. Um, but let me give you a, let me give you a case

00:23:05.640 or a scenario and which explains how I think about gold and silver. I believe in skills right

00:23:12.620 now. If you have any form of disposable income, invest in skills. So when there is no economy,

00:23:18.760 there is no resources. You've got the skills to provide for yourself. Then I believe in equipment,

00:23:24.460 you know, buy a lumber mill. I own a lumber mill. Okay. I also own seeds. I've purchased a lot of

00:23:33.200 seeds to grow my own food. I could do microgreens. I could do gardening. I own a greenhouse and I've

00:23:38.500 invested in skills. Now, at the end of that, when you have provided, if you have a Veterans for

00:23:44.420 Freedom member, and I don't know who it was, came up with a saying, you know, we have the saying,

00:23:49.260 do not comply, but a Veterans for Freedom member, and I wish I knew who it was, said,

00:23:54.460 do not rely. Okay, so that's sort of the new philosophy. Do not rely on current society

00:24:00.800 right now as much as you can. Distance yourself from it. That's how you protect yourself.

00:24:04.780 And we look at gold and silver as a means to do that. But in my case, what I'm saying is,

00:24:11.360 I want all the skills, all the equipment, all the resources I need. And if I've satisfied all that,

00:24:17.240 then I will rely on gold and silver. So about two years ago, there was some discussion on a

00:24:23.460 youtube channel that i follow and the comment that i put in there uh because people were talking

00:24:28.100 about gold and silver and all that and i said have you considered investing in seeds and the

00:24:34.600 response i got from one of the the other people was yeah the gold is to buy the seeds dummy he

00:24:41.760 actually wrote dummy and i my response to him my response to him was you could show up to my house

00:24:48.000 with a donkey cart full of gold and if i've got food or seeds i'm not giving you my seeds for

00:24:55.000 any amount of gold that you've got i can't eat gold but i certainly can eat the food that these

00:25:00.180 seeds provide so very interesting because there's other people are talking about stocking up on

00:25:07.020 you know things of that you think about how the world might look in a year two years six months

00:25:13.580 whatever and that's why obviously you've got the seeds in the greenhouse and and the lumber

00:25:19.220 but what about other things things that people maybe maybe not necessities but things that

00:25:27.280 people really enjoy like whiskey right if you've got a stockpile of booze somewhere yeah that could

00:25:35.920 be worth something down the road i i think so because these are commodities i mean we trade

00:25:41.360 these on markets, right? And there's no reason why in an underground economy, or let's say a

00:25:46.600 parallel economy, uh, these are things that you can barter with. Absolutely. I could barter with

00:25:52.160 seeds. I mean, the good thing about seeds is that you can replicate seeds. You know, you get one

00:25:57.880 bell pepper and you can take the seeds and grow more bell peppers. You know, 50 pounds of potatoes

00:26:03.720 in the ground are going to yield. If you're, if you know what you're doing, 500 pounds of potatoes.

00:26:08.800 So, you know, things that are, are renewable, uh, and I don't mean that in the, in the dirty

00:26:15.700 liberal sense, uh, things that are renewable should be considered.

00:26:20.520 I mean, everybody wants food at the end of the day.

00:26:23.560 You know, I, I go with, you know, I heard this saying once, um, uh, nine meals, nine

00:26:30.200 meals.

00:26:30.980 And I'm like, what does that mean?

00:26:32.480 And a friend explained to me, he says, look, after somebody misses nine meals in a row,

00:26:38.000 your 80 year old grandmother is going to kick in your front door with a shotgun and take 0.76

00:26:42.560 your, your food from you. Okay. Nine meals is where sort of the threshold of desperation comes 1.00

00:26:48.040 in. Um, so, you know, think about, let's just take away the doomsday scenario.

00:26:57.180 I think for peace of mind in just a better quality of life, it's better to know that you

00:27:03.300 don't rely on the system for for you know critical things other than maybe medical and even with

00:27:10.700 medical you can find people out there that are like-minded that that you know are willing in a

00:27:16.900 real crisis to provide medical services or dental services i mean you can buy a portable dental

00:27:23.560 machine for two to three thousand dollars on amazon you know we we i think it's just think

00:27:31.360 about the movie the village it's an m night shamalan movie i mean they had a pretty good

00:27:35.480 yeah yeah okay i i mean that's what i'm looking at i mean that's i don't want to talk funny

00:27:42.580 but i like they did in that movie you know what you're right they talked like amish kind of i

00:27:48.300 remember that now now this is where we left off the last time you were on the show you had these

00:27:53.340 thoughts about what may or may not happen and i wanted to ask you that but we already run for 90

00:27:58.020 minutes and people were getting sore butts and so i thought yeah we'll we'll have tom back so here

00:28:03.240 we are now talking about this possible situation and let's go back to the doomsday doomsday scenario

00:28:09.380 you got the seeds and and the lumber how do you see the shaking out do you see people leaving

00:28:16.440 streaming from the cities and going to set up their own homestead somewhere in the bush where

00:28:21.280 they can't be tracked or is it living within a city but off the grid which i don't know how would

00:28:27.020 be possible my my personal feeling and there are various different opinions about this um my

00:28:34.320 personal feeling is really being in a city environment if there is an economic collapse

00:28:40.460 is the last place you want to be um being alone you know contrast that with being alone i think

00:28:49.500 is the last thing that you want you know there's a reason that wolves travel as a pack right because

00:28:55.340 lone wolves get picked off they're not going to survive uh i always laugh i watch all these

00:29:00.300 youtube channels about you know people surviving in the woods and they build this beautiful shelter

00:29:05.720 they cook this thing and then out of nowhere they pull out you know a 14 ounce ribeye you know and

00:29:13.400 they're they're baking bread and it's all packed in the backpack that they brought i'm like that's

00:29:17.700 not survival you built a shelter you're just camping okay call it what it is i think that

00:29:24.620 you know there are certain economic indicators that a lot of people are looking at there's uh

00:29:31.200 martin christensen uh is is a person i follow i followed him for about 14 years now uh he's a he's

00:29:40.420 got a phd in economics brilliant guy uh robert kiyosaki the author of rich dad poor dad you know

00:29:47.760 you've got these these people out there that are are looking at the economics of this and they're

00:29:54.280 saying like listen something's got a gift so economically look at the situation we're in

00:30:01.320 everybody's complaining about the fact that the cost of groceries the cost of fuel the cost of

00:30:05.360 gas like cost of everything has gone up exponentially this liberal government has

00:30:11.860 borrowed more money than all the previous prime ministers combined and that is what he has done

00:30:18.560 to the economy i mean do we are we going to get to the point where we're seeing people go down the

00:30:23.260 sidewalks with wheelbarrows of, of useless Canadian, uh, money because of hyperinflation,

00:30:29.460 like a situation Zimbabwe had years ago, like something has to give in, in the world's economy.

00:30:36.380 If you look at the amount of borrowing that the Americans have done, the debt that the

00:30:40.820 Americans in it's, it's, it's hard to even imagine the, the amount of money, the amount

00:30:47.040 that the Canadian government has taken on as debt.

00:30:49.820 and i want to let me give you a little example because i've i've said this a few times on

00:30:55.340 interviews but i i when i say this people kind of look at me a little bit with their mouths open

00:31:00.760 and they're like it's so obvious but when you put it like that it's like oh my god so i've got to

00:31:08.080 understand now that everybody watching we got like 1500 people watching now yes they're all

00:31:12.460 doing their best to keep their mouths shut okay but this is this is what i want them to do when

00:31:17.760 they go to work tomorrow, I want them to do this to their colleagues. This is what I want them to

00:31:22.580 do. I want them to, I don't have a piece of sticky note, but get a sticky note or a piece of paper.

00:31:27.400 And on that piece of paper, I want them to write it, write a dollar, take that sticky note or paper

00:31:32.680 and write a dollar. Okay. And this is this little thought experiment, write the dollar. Now you've

00:31:38.600 written a dollar on the piece of paper. Okay. And then I'm explaining to people a dollar, $1, $1

00:31:44.920 on a piece of paper, and I'm going to explain to you how our entire economic system functions,

00:31:50.880 okay? You've got that $1 on a piece of paper. Now, for the purpose of this thought experiment,

00:31:58.000 I want you to imagine that there is no other money on this entire planet. The only dollar

00:32:05.540 that exists on this planet is the $1 that you wrote on the piece of paper, okay? So,

00:32:11.000 how much money exists in my little scenario in the world right now? $1. Perfect. You get an A

00:32:17.980 so far. Okay. Now you come to me, I've got the dollar shadow. You come to me and you say, Tom,

00:32:25.740 I want to borrow your dollar. And I say, yeah, sure. No problem. Shadow. I'll loan you that

00:32:30.540 dollar at 10% interest. Right. Do you see the trap? How much do you owe me when I settle this

00:32:38.840 loan 10 so i i owe you one dollar and ten cents yes yes where's the dime come from i just said

00:32:46.220 there's there's only one dollar in the world it doesn't exist okay so now let's let's look at the

00:32:53.400 canadian economy right now prior to the economy and i'm one of these geeks i have an mba okay and

00:32:59.700 i'm one of these geeks who do go i go through the federal provincial budgets and i read it and i

00:33:04.440 always look at the interest. Okay. So prior to the pandemic, if you were a resident of Ontario,

00:33:12.120 every hour on the hour, 365 days a year, 24 and seven, you paid $1.5 million to bankers

00:33:23.980 in interest payments. Money that doesn't exist. You're paying back that, it doesn't exist,

00:33:31.240 But you have to convert your labor in, you know, your time and your energy and your effort

00:33:37.620 into converting that.

00:33:38.940 Now, where am I going with this long-term?

00:33:42.380 Since the pandemic, he has borrowed so much money that's almost doubled.

00:33:46.540 Now that's just Ontario.

00:33:48.140 Okay.

00:33:48.480 Federally, he owes more.

00:33:50.180 I think it's $34.5 billion that the federal government owes in interest charges just this

00:33:58.260 year alone.

00:33:59.220 Okay.

00:33:59.740 Okay, $34.5 billion of fiction, fantasy.

00:34:06.280 You can't touch that money.

00:34:08.360 But you're going to convert your labor through taxes, okay?

00:34:12.280 So here's the issue.

00:34:14.820 As time goes on, this is compounding interest, okay?

00:34:19.380 That number is growing.

00:34:20.680 We can never pay that money off.

00:34:22.700 If you took all of the principal amount, that $1, you collected it all up,

00:34:27.300 There wouldn't be enough money in existence to pay back the fictitious money.

00:34:32.840 We'll never get out of this debt.

00:34:35.240 So therefore, it compounds, the debt gets bigger, more and more and more of our tax

00:34:40.000 dollars have to go towards servicing debt because we can never pay it off.

00:34:44.320 So mathematically, our economy must collapse at some point.

00:34:50.160 That is a mathematical fact.

00:34:52.220 let me ask you something because you you'd mentioned that that you're a bit of a geek

00:34:57.380 when it comes to this stuff so a lot of people don't know when a government borrows money

00:35:03.680 whether it's provincial state country whatever where are they borrowing it from and who do they

00:35:09.680 owe it to yes so bond traders in bay street um uh with wall street uh different banks they borrow

00:35:20.220 it from china they borrow it from all all different uh banks in in the world they also

00:35:26.400 borrow money from the chartered banks the five chartered banks in canada now what's interesting

00:35:31.740 to note okay this is important this did not have to happen to canadians of the g7 countries we are

00:35:40.780 the only country in the g7 that the citizens own the bank of canada the other g the other six

00:35:48.000 countries in the g7 they're all conglomerates okay we are the only ones who own it 1974

00:35:55.180 trudeau senior screwed canada go figure the entire family they're good at it 1974 they stopped

00:36:03.880 borrowing money from the bank of canada bank of canada under our constitution and the banking

00:36:09.720 act was supposed to be the lender of first choice for the bank of canada it is now the lender of

00:36:15.840 last resort for the Bank of Canada in exchange for borrowing money at interest rates to private

00:36:22.660 lenders, including the five charter banks in Canada. So that's who the Canadians have been

00:36:29.060 sold out to, is the banking industry. This is like saying, do I borrow money from the stranger

00:36:38.000 down the street who's going to charge me interest, or do I just borrow money from my parents who

00:36:42.640 probably aren't going to charge me interest, right?

00:36:46.400 And this is where we're in.

00:36:48.640 And since Trudeau Sr. 49 years ago, Canada has been accumulating debt after debt, after

00:36:55.500 debt, after debt, year after year.

00:36:57.880 It just grows.

00:36:58.640 It doesn't diminish.

00:37:00.180 So why do I say it doesn't diminish?

00:37:02.200 Because if you look at how much we have to pay back on interest, you'll see that the

00:37:07.080 amount we're paying back on principal of the loan, I mean, people have mortgages, they

00:37:10.960 no principal interest we're only paying uh like on average between one to about three billion

00:37:19.100 dollars a year on the principal and we're paying 34 and a half billion on interest let me ask you

00:37:24.920 this what if we just said all right we're not paying this but it's over you're not it's a trap

00:37:31.340 right we're not paying this back we're not giving you this ridiculous uh interest rate we're not

00:37:36.200 doing it what are they going to do yeah well i'll tell you right now if i was the premier of ontario

00:37:40.820 that's what i would do i would default on my loans and i would take the the hit to my credit

00:37:45.200 rating you know my my governmental r9 credit rating i wouldn't care because i would say we

00:37:51.120 still have an economic engine here we've got a we've got to set back to zero somehow and i would

00:37:56.960 bring back the gold standard in ontario we would we have to don't have any i know i know yeah well

00:38:04.640 i mean we got to do something yeah exactly we've we've we've unloaded all of our gold

00:38:09.800 well actually somebody you know the last time i brought this up in conversation and this is a

00:38:15.040 little off topic from where i wanted to go and we'll get back to that but yeah it's a good

00:38:18.940 conversation to have this um people are saying well no shadow there are working gold mines in

00:38:24.860 canada and i say yeah they're they're working gold mines in canada who owns them they go well

00:38:29.040 i don't know it's china china yeah yeah but but you know the the american dollar it was richard

00:38:36.960 nixon who sorry uh not richard nixon or was it richard nixon i think it was richard nixon who

00:38:44.480 got rid of the gold standard you know for the the greenback um but the gold the the u.s dollar is

00:38:50.840 now referred to as a as a petrodollar right so i don't know maybe we don't tie it to gold because

00:38:56.980 we don't have it but danielle smith you know she's she admitted tonight on stage with uh tucker 0.80

00:39:01.680 carlson she's going to double uh alberta's um lng or oil and gas industry uh going into the future

00:39:09.640 maybe canada becomes a petrodollar and maybe it's not the gold standard but the answer might be

00:39:15.060 petrodollars i don't know well that's of course if we get rid of the climate emergency yes yeah

00:39:21.840 villains in ottawa now here's another question as we go forward with this um justin trudeau is

00:39:29.160 clearly a globalist as is christy freeland and stephen gilbeau is just i think he's just wackadoo

00:39:34.360 he's a criminal obviously and he's just a climate zealot you can see it in his eyes whenever you

00:39:39.080 see a photo or video he's just got that that look um so we get these guys out let's say we get a

00:39:44.920 poly of government in people are saying well it's the uniparty shadow i say i agree but we need to

00:39:49.980 slow down this globalist freight train and i think that poly have to do that until we the people can

00:39:55.660 somehow come up with a better system more accountability and definitely more responsibility

00:40:01.500 when it comes to dealing with situations like uh the freedom convoy and hopefully something like

00:40:07.800 that would never have to happen under an accountable government what are you what is

00:40:12.040 your take on that like is polyev an alternative or is he just part of the machine so um

00:40:19.600 my feeling is Pierre Polyev is going to be the next prime minister of Canada.

00:40:27.860 Like, I do believe that that's true.

00:40:29.700 That is, he is going to become the next prime minister of Canada.

00:40:32.720 You mean, even if you look at the polling numbers, I think Canadians,

00:40:38.020 I hope Canadians are not disappointed,

00:40:41.880 but I do believe that they are going to be disappointed.

00:40:44.740 Okay.

00:40:45.340 And I, my opinion is that nobody's running to Pierre Polyev

00:40:49.380 because he's got a vision for Canada.

00:40:51.560 They're running towards Pierre Pauly

00:40:53.640 of what their arms laid out like,

00:40:56.720 you know, they've got abuse child syndrome.

00:40:59.900 I think they're not running towards him as a savior.

00:41:03.560 They're running towards him to get rid of Justin Trudeau,

00:41:06.720 which is a different intent.

00:41:08.760 Okay.

00:41:10.260 I've often said publicly, especially on my Twitter,

00:41:13.780 you know, four years ago,

00:41:15.160 if the conservatives were in government,

00:41:16.720 I truly believe we'd all be running towards Justin Trudeau right now with our arms open saying,

00:41:22.440 save us from the conservatives. I do believe that the Uniparty is the Uniparty. I look at

00:41:29.220 Pierre Polyev. Pierre Polyev is a household name because of the way he used to bitch slap 0.95

00:41:34.280 Justin Trudeau over the We Charity scandal. You know, that's how he became a, I mean,

00:41:39.160 it was beautiful to watch. I mean, there's no doubt. He's very gifted in, in the way he treated

00:41:44.680 uh, or does treat, you know, Trudeau.

00:41:48.480 But my bigger concern, oh, our reporters with the apples.

00:41:52.700 Yeah.

00:41:52.940 I mean, he's very talented.

00:41:54.300 I mean, an incredibly articulate man.

00:41:56.900 I, I, there's lots of things that are admirable about him.

00:42:01.000 Can he lead?

00:42:02.300 That's the question for me, because let me say this at 24 years old, I believe he was

00:42:06.660 elected to become a federal member of parliament.

00:42:09.560 He's got an undergrad degree.

00:42:11.180 He's not a lawyer.

00:42:11.900 He has no graduate diplomas or graduate degrees, which is not an indicator of anything.

00:42:17.360 Trust me, I got one. 0.98

00:42:18.640 And sometimes I think I'm the stupidest person I know and I'm highly educated, but I look 0.99

00:42:25.360 at him and I think at 24 years old, the only thing he's ever done, he's a politician. 0.99

00:42:32.220 Okay.

00:42:32.700 That's, that's it.

00:42:33.480 That is like, he's never been the leader of a corporation.

00:42:36.120 He's never been a CEO.

00:42:37.400 he's led a very small staff in his office as a member of parliament while those are you know

00:42:43.800 skills i'm sure he has not really demonstrated executive level skills until he became the

00:42:51.220 leader of a party now all of a sudden just like trudeau had no experience he he had the his his

00:42:56.960 birthright he got from his family if you ask him uh because of osmosis he learned about politics

00:43:03.520 but with Polyev, same thing. Where's the depth of experience that he has going into becoming the

00:43:10.060 Prime Minister of Canada? He's got no executive leadership skills or experience, and we're about

00:43:16.220 to hand him the keys. Now, for the moment, I might be okay with that. Okay, I might be. But what

00:43:23.820 concerns me more than Pierre Polyev becoming the Prime Minister is who's going to become the

00:43:30.060 official opposition. That's what concerns me more. Because what we've seen with Trudeau is,

00:43:38.380 you know, he didn't have a majority government, but the NDP gave him one. They gave him a de facto

00:43:44.120 majority government. So Trudeau has really been a dictator over Canadians, unelected.

00:43:51.900 Jagmeet Singh, who I would say is the most powerful Canadian in the political sphere right

00:43:58.140 now because he's got the power to hold a non-confidence vote right now it's it's up to

00:44:02.920 jagmeet singh okay but ultimately don't forget about the block the block has got something to

00:44:10.020 say about all this too yeah because they yeah the block stopped the non-confidence vote last time

00:44:15.740 so the ndp the liberals and the block kept justin trudeau in power in the last confidence vote

00:44:23.300 so the the the bloc in certain cases can be is is justin trudeau's plan b right because remember

00:44:30.400 his allegiance is to quebec before it is to the rest of canada he has publicly said that

00:44:34.660 but i i look at the whole thing and i'm like are we are we satisfied to have let's say the

00:44:40.640 bloc quebecois be the official opposition for the federal government and let me say this i have lots

00:44:46.980 of friends in in quebec it's not a it's not again i don't say this against the quebec people but i

00:44:51.840 say this against the Bloc Quebecois. There's not one single member of parliament in the Bloc

00:44:58.120 Quebecois outside of the province of Quebec. So why is Quebec making decisions about the rest of

00:45:04.560 Canada? So I don't think that they qualify just based on that alone. They're not qualified to be

00:45:09.780 the official opposition of the federal government because their interests only rely on one province

00:45:15.340 and they don't care about the rest of us. Have we ever seen that? We haven't seen that yet,

00:45:21.440 have we be no we haven't seen that we haven't seen that luckily but now that what does that

00:45:27.780 leave us does that do we want to see the liberals at the official opposition what are they going to

00:45:32.620 do the liberals as the opposition are going to gang up with the ndp in the block and they're

00:45:36.960 going to basically neuter a conservative majority or minority like they're they're they've got the

00:45:42.940 power it's all about the math right so we don't want the ndp being the the minority or sorry the

00:45:49.520 official opposition again we don't want

00:45:51.540 that I mean they they hardly did it

00:45:53.320 under Tom Mulcair but we've only got

00:45:55.920 like seriously the PPC Tom has no chance

00:45:59.760 of ever getting anything going right I

00:46:02.420 mean that's just the way it's been they

00:46:04.500 don't and and this is what frustrates me

00:46:06.620 because you know I what I can't stand

00:46:09.640 honestly is I can't stand seeing the PPC

00:46:12.760 and the CPC fighting with each other and

00:46:16.160 attacking each other so viciously i think it's uncalled for i mean they're all sort of you know

00:46:22.740 right-leaning parties they're supposed to be conservatives i think the ppc has too much that

00:46:29.100 they need to repair within their party but if i was maxine bernier i would be thinking how do i

00:46:35.180 best position myself as a viable alternative as is forming an opposition party or at least some

00:46:42.280 sort of contender that can align with maybe one of the other groups but but right now i mean what

00:46:48.240 is our what is our options for an opposition party right now and we need an opposition we need an

00:46:54.520 opposition party here's the thing about maxime bernier i think the best thing that he could do

00:46:59.300 and i like max i mean he's been on the show a few times and i enjoyed my conversation me too

00:47:03.840 him but me too you know i mean i think the best thing that he could do is to step down as the

00:47:12.400 leader of that party i mean he's run three times three different well two elections one by election

00:47:16.880 he lost both of them he ran out here in manitoba in probably one of the only writings that the ppc

00:47:23.680 could win in the bible belt of manitoba and he came in distant second to the conservative party

00:47:31.440 candidate so yeah he did even worse than the the ppc candidate the no-name ppc candidate who ran in

00:47:37.840 the previous election so i don't know that he's electable tom unless he wants to get in post and

00:47:43.780 try and try and win his home riding and he's lost that twice now so where's he gonna go i yeah i i

00:47:49.100 mean i share the same concerns right and i think what would go a long way there's a couple of

00:47:54.100 things that i think that would go a long way uh three to four different things um and and let me

00:48:01.340 say this. I mean, Maxime Bernier is a lawyer. He worked in the banking industry. He held one of

00:48:07.820 the highest portfolios under, um, Stephen Harper. He was the minister of foreign affairs, you know,

00:48:13.680 like that secretary of state in the U S that's the equivalent. He's not a lightweight, you know,

00:48:18.760 and he was a member of parliament for 13 years. So he's extremely qualified, extremely credentialed

00:48:24.340 to take, you know, a seat again, but the issues that I have with the PPC, as far as to my knowledge,

00:48:32.680 they still don't have a party charter. Okay. Second thing is he, he has not been able to

00:48:40.920 attract heavyweights into the party. He just hasn't been able to. So, I mean, I, I hate to

00:48:48.520 use slogans when I refer to certain parties, but you know, there's a little, there's a certain

00:48:52.660 amount of truth to this, you know, it's the party of Maxine Bernier, you know, what happens

00:48:57.700 to the PPC if there's no Maxine Bernier, I think the party goes the way of the Dodo.

00:49:02.620 Um, and, and that, that, that concerns me greatly.

00:49:06.240 He's not been able to attract some major superstars into, into his party to, to buy

00:49:12.320 into his vision.

00:49:13.500 So, uh, you know, now to flip, to contrast that, what I can't stand is the thought that

00:49:21.320 the conservatives in this country who largely were ineffective as the opposition and in a lot

00:49:28.780 of cases were complicit with the liberals. I hate the thought of the conservative party being

00:49:35.060 rewarded for all of the tremendous work that Maxime Bernier has done over the last four years

00:49:40.480 to protect Canadians from the liberal government. That part bothers me. He's the one who's done all

00:49:47.900 the fighting. He's the one who got arrested. He has been the one who has spoken out truthfully

00:49:53.320 about every issue. The conservatives have played politics with all those issues. And that's what

00:49:59.420 upsets me. Now, let me ask you this. The way this country has gone for the past, I suppose we could

00:50:06.960 say eight years, we could say 20 years, we could say 40 years. It's gone heavily. And I don't want

00:50:14.060 to say liberal because people mistake the word today uh with progressive or even marxist is what

00:50:20.920 i call them but this country has moved hard to the left and the thinking amongst most canadians

00:50:29.020 we've got free medicare right i mean it's not free obviously but people say well it's free it's free

00:50:33.940 go free and all of the other uh social safety nets that the federal government and provincial

00:50:40.200 governments have provided and created and now we've got 15 a day daycare and all of this stuff

00:50:45.440 the free dental program is coming out i mean they are turning us into a nanny state yes which is

00:50:53.320 on the road to socialism on the road to communism this is the way canadians are now thinking based

00:50:59.440 upon the conditioning of the past 40 years so when we talk about playing politics i mean if

00:51:05.420 Pierre Polyev comes out and he says, oh, and by the way, abortion is murder and we're going to get rid of abortion in Canada.

00:51:12.280 He would be lambasted, not just in the left wing corporate media, but all over social media.

00:51:17.120 I mean, even today, with that ruling that came out from from the justice, I'm forgetting his name yesterday, the bots and the haters, the Marxists were all over X talking about an extreme right wing judge.

00:51:31.460 i know right i mean this is what we have to face and you know this probably better than most because

00:51:36.620 you faced it for a month in ottawa a couple of years ago how do we get this country back the

00:51:42.800 zeitgeist of this country move that overton window back towards the middle because if we can't do

00:51:48.200 that then conservatives are going to be liberals and liberals are going to be marxists forever and

00:51:54.100 ever first and foremost i whatever government comes in and i'm hoping on the conservative side

00:52:01.820 they they drastically make impacts or influence the education system because this whole marxist

00:52:09.900 ideology has taken its uh its beachhead it has strongly been put into the education system first

00:52:18.380 i mean most people probably watching your show have heard of yuri bezmanov you know where he

00:52:23.120 talked about and warned, you know, the West in the mid 1980s about, you know, the Marxist ideology

00:52:32.400 that was taking root in North America and in democratic societies. So my belief is in a friend

00:52:40.240 of mine, Drew McGilvery, who's the president of Veterans for Freedom, you know, he's been talking

00:52:45.160 about this for two years saying, you know, local action has national impact. And this is true

00:52:51.140 because we are in the situation we're in now

00:52:53.960 because the Marxist ideology took root

00:52:56.680 at the local level

00:52:58.280 and we're now just seeing the manifestation

00:53:01.540 over the last 30 to 40 years

00:53:03.640 of all that effort

00:53:04.560 that, you know, to use a football analogy

00:53:06.960 the ground game

00:53:08.060 that has been going on for decades

00:53:10.580 in Western civilization

00:53:12.260 and that has just set up the past

00:53:15.000 that's why we feel like it is

00:53:17.940 all of a sudden it's too quick 0.99

00:53:20.000 this stuff is being put on it's like where did this shit come from all of a sudden when in reality 0.99

00:53:24.620 it's been going on i think they got activated when trudeau became the prime yes yes this has 0.99

00:53:31.120 been permeating through our society but trudeau becomes prime minister and he activates all of

00:53:36.060 them and then he's creating you know uh dei departments all through the federal government

00:53:41.300 the bureaucracy is laced now with hundreds of billions if not billions of dollars of these

00:53:46.700 departments this dei departments they're being grilled right now at committee in the house of

00:53:51.340 commons i mean for you know improprieties financial improprieties which is bad but i mean they they

00:53:58.760 exist now they are permanent fixtures within our bureaucratic structure and so would polyev be able

00:54:06.360 to come in and go all right all this dei you're all fired you're gone i i'm torn because you know

00:54:12.780 there's, I feel like Polyev takes a step forward and takes a step back every once in a while. And

00:54:18.280 it's like, okay, he's going on talking about immigration. He's pro-immigration. But at the

00:54:25.220 same time, he's pro-housing and stuff. It's like, you're off balance with what you're saying. It's

00:54:30.960 not reconciling for ordinary Canadians like myself who look at that and say, you're talking

00:54:37.460 out of both sides of your face on this thing here. You know, I, I sympathize with what's

00:54:42.320 happening in Ukraine, but I also sympathize what's happening to Russians. Okay. And that

00:54:47.400 whole dynamic, and I'm not pro Ukraine. I'm not pro Russian, but I'm pro the, the, the mothers

00:54:54.000 and fathers who've lost their children to that war, that conflict. Okay. And the same thing, I,

00:55:00.560 I'm not pro Hamas. I'm certainly not pro IDF. I'm pro the children that are being slaughtered in

00:55:06.100 that conflict, right? And we throw, our politicians seem to throw, they pick a side and they throw

00:55:12.480 money at these conflicts. And I'm really frustrated to see that Pierre Polyev, you know,

00:55:18.780 being pro-immigration and he's also pro-Ukraine and he's pro, like just stick to Canada,

00:55:25.400 be pro-Canada, fix Canada, okay? Put Canada before you put other nations right now. And once we sort

00:55:33.940 ourselves out we correct all the mistakes then we can come back and start you know with confidence

00:55:40.480 morality maybe giving some advice that's what you are you're a i know i know i know i'm glad you

00:55:48.520 said that i yeah i yes yes saying these things like i've been saying we got to shut off immigration

00:55:54.880 for the next two years yes just to get it all straightened out i agree i i absolutely agree and

00:56:00.300 And I think, you know, you're joking, calling me a white nationalist and all that stuff.

00:56:06.820 But the point to your joke, I think, is the fact that we can come back with facts and

00:56:12.360 figures and, you know, look at objective criteria, look at the cause and effect.

00:56:16.940 Whereas you're seeing the left always come back with no argument, but emotion.

00:56:22.560 They come back with an emotional thing and they don't even understand the brainwashing

00:56:26.400 that they suffer from because they can't back it up with facts or figures or I mean, hey, if they're

00:56:32.480 going to follow the science, you know, that's another story altogether. But, you know, I'm

00:56:38.440 listen, the love of my life immigrated to this country when she was 14 years old. Okay. She has

00:56:47.980 paid taxes here since 1990. She has a degree from the University of Toronto. You know, she has been

00:56:55.860 very successful at contributing to the country of canada and the the country she came from which is

00:57:01.840 poland culturally aligns very well with canada okay her parents came here and they contributed

00:57:09.080 and they built a phenomenal life for themselves in this country after escaping communism like the

00:57:14.880 way canada is today or the way it used to be the way it used to be okay but i mean my point being

00:57:23.880 is that there are some people that immigrate to Canada that are so culturally different,

00:57:29.500 it's almost impossible for an assimilation to happen. What we're seeing is you and I being

00:57:35.500 accused of being bigots because we don't want to convert. It's like, no, you know, Canadians

00:57:41.560 and, you know, whether, you know, whether you're an atheist or not in Canada, the fact remains that

00:57:48.640 the origins of this country were built on a christian ideology the morals ethics and values

00:57:54.240 came from christianity that built this country into the success it was in the immigrants that

00:57:59.500 came here also came from a similar religious cultural background you know ireland italy

00:58:05.220 spain you name it their cultures were very similar we built a successful society that became

00:58:13.280 the envy of other nations to the point where they've come here and now we're seeing us the

00:58:23.400 people that built something which is unbelievably phenomenal now being told we have white privilege

00:58:29.840 because we want to you know my father my grandfather his his father built a society

00:58:38.680 that he was proud of that he intended leave for his future generations now we're taking benefit

00:58:43.880 of that and i'm told i have white privilege i i don't think so i don't think so we built a very

00:58:49.660 successful civilization over here okay it's not white privilege we've got a lot of hurdles to

00:58:56.580 jump to get back to what i would say is some kind of semblance of normal in the last week

00:59:03.220 um we've had a bunch of things happen uh and and it's been a very good week for us i think starting

00:59:09.240 with probably sean strickland uh going off i don't agree with the the language and the accusatory and

00:59:17.100 the name calling and all of that that and he did two press conferences like that by the way

00:59:22.320 uh wednesday and friday before uh his big title fight in toronto on saturday then the crowd

00:59:28.340 chanting i'm not sure how much of the crowd in the arena was chanting f trudeau yeah it was a good

00:59:33.460 portion of them i'm sure you've seen that video uh we had javier millay the president of argentina

00:59:39.380 go up and do a 33-minute speech in front of the world economic forum about the dangers of socialism

00:59:45.300 we had the leader of the heritage foundation uh kevin parker i think is his name on a round table

00:59:50.980 on the final day of the world health organ not the world health the world uh economic forum

00:59:57.140 talking about the dangers of what they are doing and laughable that they say these people these

01:00:03.300 elites say that they are standing up for liberal democracy it's absolutely ridiculous that's gone

01:00:08.740 viral now we've got tucker carlson in canada and he was in calgary today he's going to be in

01:00:14.820 edmonton this week i want to play a clip here this is there's so many people uh who were at this

01:00:20.420 event at the convention center in calgary today here is tucker carlson speaking with danielle

01:00:25.540 smith so i think that we can do a lot to make sure that the americans know that we are here

01:00:32.660 to provide energy security we are a great friend great ally great neighbor and we just need to get

01:00:37.700 the leadership to realize that we are a friend then my three-word piece of advice would be stop

01:00:44.500 being embarrassed about who you are.

01:00:46.820 You have nothing to be embarrassed about.

01:00:50.560 Thank you so much for doing this. I appreciate this.

01:00:53.040 Wait, there's a little last thing.

01:00:54.680 You said CBC is

01:00:56.620 in the room.

01:00:57.800 I would love to do an interview.

01:00:59.660 I would love to do an interview with CBC

01:01:02.580 meeting me backstage.

01:01:04.220 I dare you to put it on TV.

01:01:08.640 CBC's there covering the event.

01:01:10.780 He says, do an interview with me.

01:01:12.260 I dare you to put it on TV.

01:01:13.720 Here's one of our friends from X, her name is Cat Canada.

01:01:16.180 There's Andy Lee behind her looking at Tucker like, oh, my goodness, you're really here.

01:01:21.520 Here's just a quick clip of that.

01:01:23.180 Canada is so shocking that it could happen here.

01:01:26.200 I know.

01:01:26.920 This is not just a civilized country.

01:01:28.580 This is the most civilized country in the world.

01:01:31.200 That's right.

01:01:32.100 And so if it can happen here, it's a very ominous harbinger of what the rest of us are about to get.

01:01:37.560 That's how I feel about it.

01:01:38.620 Yeah, because America is about like five years behind Canada.

01:01:41.540 Exactly.

01:01:41.940 And about 20 minutes down the road.

01:01:43.720 So we should be paying attention, but we're not.

01:01:45.400 And our State Department, of course, is not going to raise human rights objections

01:01:48.520 when you have political prisoners rotting in Alberta.

01:01:50.800 Really?

01:01:51.180 That's right.

01:01:51.780 I agree.

01:01:52.620 Canada is social.

01:01:53.940 Okay, so the bottom line is, Tom, that he came here and he energized a room of 3,000 people today.

01:02:03.900 And there were so many Marxists online who were trying to call for this event,

01:02:10.340 these events to be shut down and the tucker carlson should not be allowed in canada he's

01:02:14.660 the most un-canadian person that we could ever bring into our country and whatnot but we've

01:02:19.460 got a jolt now it seems that we've we've turned a corner maybe i'm hoping uh kind of like the the

01:02:26.100 freedom convoy did for us a couple of years ago before it was uh shut down so harshly and i played

01:02:31.300 some clip of that last night to remind people of what happens i do believe we have to look back on

01:02:36.020 that every now and and and just remember what what they did to us but now does it feel the same to

01:02:44.200 you does it feel as though we're starting to get some of our energy back and and possibly moving

01:02:49.380 forward trying to fight this beast i i have to say i i think so i i really feel i'm a big believer

01:02:58.080 in the collective consciousness um i do feel like when you know a large majority of the the

01:03:05.480 population on this planet is thinking about one specific topic or an event and i'm not talking

01:03:11.120 about changing your facebook profile to be in support of the next thing i'm talking about you

01:03:16.340 know something that's on the minds of of maybe canadians or just people from manitoba or ontario

01:03:22.200 or something when there's something big on the minds of people and they're all talking about it

01:03:26.800 there's an energy i think that that permeates around this collective consciousness that we all

01:03:32.860 experience. And I certainly can feel that I, you know, since yesterday, you know, when I first got

01:03:40.020 the news about, um, the, the court decision, there's a, there's a difference in, in the overall

01:03:47.740 vibe in Canada right now. And if you go onto social media for five minutes, it's all anyone's

01:03:52.120 talking about. And I agree. I mean, with the, the UFC fighter, um, the world economic forum,

01:03:58.440 you know the speakers that went on there and ripped into those people i think with this decision

01:04:03.700 yesterday and i think tucker carlson couldn't have come here at a better time to really it's

01:04:11.200 not like to capitalize on something it's to enhance the jubilation that people are feeling

01:04:17.180 around this country right now and you know what i think the best thing that ever happened to tucker

01:04:21.340 carlson is that fox news fired him because he's getting 10 times the viewership on twitter or on

01:04:27.760 X that he got before. And so, you know, I think him coming here is a, is a positive experience,

01:04:35.000 uh, for Canadians. I mean, we, we need a morale boost every once in a while, because let's face

01:04:40.240 it, we've, we've suffered, you know, some losses. The convoy was two years ago this week. You know,

01:04:46.480 I rolled into the convoy two days after it got to Ottawa. So my anniversary for being at the convoy

01:04:52.760 is the 30th of January um you know and that's a date that I'll be looking for two years to the

01:04:58.700 day that I arrived at the convoy but I think it's important to to take your successes to build on it

01:05:06.560 and I think right now is the time that Canadians are full of energy they're they're feeling good

01:05:12.600 is to really put the pressure on Justin Trudeau call his office call the call the constituency

01:05:21.640 offices get politically active right now get this guy to throw in the towel and behind him

01:05:28.040 probably more importantly get rid of the NDP the the most important person I think in Canada

01:05:33.780 in politics right now is Jagmeet Singh if the NDP membership could get him to step down I mean

01:05:40.080 the convoy got rid of Aaron O'Toole you know the the conservatives used it as a as an as a way

01:05:46.400 as a means to overthrow O'Toole and put Candace Bergen in place.

01:05:50.640 Let me ask, I'm going to interrupt you just a second here. 0.86

01:05:52.600 Sure.

01:05:53.380 Who was the leader?

01:05:54.500 Was Bergen the interim leader during the convoy?

01:05:57.340 Yes, she was the interim.

01:05:58.940 Yeah, Candace Bergen.

01:06:00.420 Did Paulie have to show up at the convoy at all?

01:06:04.200 You know, that's kind of sketchy.

01:06:06.040 I know every once in a while he says he was a big supporter of the convoy.

01:06:11.840 During the convoy, I emailed him a few times and I got nowhere.

01:06:15.380 I emailed his public address, you know, not, I, I didn't have his number, but I emailed

01:06:20.900 his, his public account and I assumed that his staff saw it and probably put it in the

01:06:26.080 recycle bin, uh, and thought no way they're going to get around this guy, uh, or anywhere

01:06:31.660 near me.

01:06:32.300 But, you know, somebody reminded me on Twitter recently that, uh, that Polly have, you know,

01:06:38.940 introduced a bill to, uh, stop the vaccine mandates prior to the convoy arriving.

01:06:44.080 so you know i'm kind of torn on the things that i do give them a pass for versus the things i

01:06:49.900 really want to nail not nail them with but i really want them to address so you know candace

01:06:55.400 bergen though became the interim leader did a photo op the night before she went into the house

01:07:00.480 of commons with some truckers and then went into the commons and said okay truckers you've proved

01:07:05.380 your point now go home which really pissed us off quite so that was that was not a great thing uh

01:07:12.920 no i i had a conversation with her she's manitoba and i had a conversation with her a few months

01:07:17.600 ago and brought that up and she said i yeah i know i know yeah that was pressure coming from

01:07:23.440 within the party yes yes and that's something else that we don't often consider i mean she

01:07:28.760 was an interim leader she wasn't there with any kind of real authority she was just a figure

01:07:35.060 after a few months yeah and i you know what i personally i think she's brilliant she's extremely

01:07:43.120 brilliant and very articulate you know and i i was disappointed kind of when i saw that she was

01:07:49.140 just going to go in as the interim leader because i knew it disqualified for her from a leadership

01:07:53.860 race i was happy initially that pierre polyev was going to uh run for the leadership this time

01:08:00.640 around but i there's still i got question marks around him how much of it is political expediency

01:08:09.140 do you think and what they say or more importantly what they don't say and and the reason i bring

01:08:13.920 that up i want to play a little bit of this your blood might boil you guys watching this your blood

01:08:18.720 might boil too uh not by the way there is a liberal mp who wants a leadership review for

01:08:23.420 justin trudeau actually came out and said that which is great but this thing here from the

01:08:27.740 bench on left-wing Marxist corporate media CTV last night. They got their panelists and they're

01:08:34.540 talking about the ruling that came down yesterday. Watch. You heard there the feds say they're going

01:08:39.300 to appeal but what implications are there for them on this politically and will it impact the

01:08:44.400 political punch they were hoping to land here with this cabinet retreat this week in Montreal. Let's

01:08:49.260 bring in the front bench to talk about that with me this evening former New Brunswick Liberal Premier

01:08:53.800 Brian Gallant. He's now the CEO of Space Canada. Former Conservative Deputy Leader Lisa Raid is

01:08:59.140 here. She's the Vice Chair and Managing Director of Global Investment Banking at CIBC. CTV News

01:09:05.200 Political Analyst and former NDP Leader Tom Mulcair is in the chair right next to me here

01:09:09.140 in Montreal. And the Toronto Star's Queen's Park Bureau Chief Rob Benzie is with us as well. Hi

01:09:13.260 everybody. Good to see you. Before we get into the politics of this, Lisa, I thought I'd get your

01:09:17.280 take first on your view on the relative significance of today's decision by the

01:09:22.440 federal government is it significant from where you sit and if so why it is it's significant in

01:09:27.660 a couple of ways it's significant because now the federal cabinet really has to pay attention

01:09:32.620 to this court case and the fact that it's going to be going to an appeal and of course it should

01:09:37.500 go to appeal probably will go to the supreme court of canada and i guess if you thought that

01:09:42.240 you had all this tight you know tied up night nicely and wrapped up in a bow with the federal

01:09:47.900 inquiry that happened, boy, he did not anticipate this court case going in the direction that it

01:09:53.280 did. And what it is, his jurist took a look at the tests of reasonableness and made his

01:09:57.700 determination that it was not a reasonable use and that people's charter rights were breached.

01:10:03.140 And it is a big deal, Vashi, because individuals will now feel vindicated. And boy, the political

01:10:09.820 parties are going to fundraise like you can't believe off of this. And my understanding is that,

01:10:14.700 many of those individuals who did feel like their rights, Brian, were contravened now could

01:10:18.720 potentially have the opportunity to sue the government in light of the decision today.

01:10:22.280 Lisa also said, though, something that kind of piqued my interest, right? Like, if I had

01:10:25.900 bets of money on what issue would throw the government off their agenda, which they were

01:10:29.400 trying to be incredibly disciplined about at this retreat, I don't think I would have picked the

01:10:33.520 convoy. I didn't think that that was going to be the thing that threw them off. What does it say

01:10:38.680 that it did end up sidesweeping today's agenda? And what kind of challenges that present going

01:10:42.860 quality there's got to be some size coming out of that cabinet retreat only because i think that

01:10:48.200 was sort of the the vibe that the trudeau government and the liberals were feeling in

01:10:52.400 2023 and they were hoping that the page had been turned on the idea that there's all these sort of

01:10:57.200 external things happening some things that we'll argue were internal and unforced errors but things

01:11:02.780 are taking them off their message so i definitely believe that they're very hopeful for 2024 that

01:11:08.100 they'll stay on message a lot more than they were able to.

01:11:10.720 Okay. All right. So that's, that's Lisa Raitt is the most conservative voice on that panel

01:11:19.440 from this guy going forward, Brian Gallaud, the former premier of Newfoundland going forward.

01:11:23.800 You've got obviously a, what's his name? NDP, a former NDP leader. You just get lefter and

01:11:29.820 lefter and more, and they don't even discuss really the ruling. And when they do, they bring

01:11:35.400 it up as a joke to me you know i spent 35 years in the media and i know the biggest story of the

01:11:45.920 day when i see it and when you see a court ruling from a federal judge comes out and says the prime

01:11:53.660 minister broke the law the biggest law in the land it's the biggest story of the day these people

01:12:01.620 were brushing it off talking about the cabinet retreat in montreal and saying well this will

01:12:06.780 just be a minor blip on the radar for the liberals can you even believe what you're hearing i i can

01:12:14.680 i can um you know what's frustrating to me in canada is we don't have conservative media like

01:12:24.300 we don't have conservative mainstream media you know what i mean and and we we pay you know the

01:12:31.140 taxpayers pay the salaries of the cbc we all know these uh the loot it's basically liberal media

01:12:36.540 um i think one day you tweeted something i was calling it mainstream media you had a different

01:12:42.280 name for it you responded to what i was calling you have a different name for media

01:12:46.100 just corporate media yes corporate yeah marxist corporate media right and which is true

01:12:51.180 and so we don't have an opposition media type of thing like we don't have the other side i mean in

01:12:57.100 the states they've got the clinton news network and then they have fox and fox it seems like

01:13:02.340 they're losing in the trenches to the you know the the marxism but i i look at the media in this

01:13:09.840 country and it's funny i none of them have reached out to any of us for comment of course they won't

01:13:15.420 especially me because i always tell them i'm looking if you publish my name i will be going

01:13:20.500 through what the lawyer's looking for defamation okay and so they do leave me alone they they

01:13:25.580 really do leave me alone but they take cheap shots at everybody else all the time okay but

01:13:31.100 sorry to interrupt you tom but like i was reading a newspaper yesterday i forget which story i think

01:13:36.620 it was even the national post and they're still calling it the so this is the the most ironic

01:13:41.880 thing that i read yesterday the so-called freedom convoy we're talking about the prime minister the

01:13:49.240 leader of government in this country who has broken the law he has broken the constitution

01:13:55.420 he violated several uh sections of the charter of rights and freedoms that's why we were there

01:14:01.840 for freedom and they still call it so called oh i know i know well i call them so-called media and

01:14:08.760 i also call them a so-called liberal party right so-called liberal ideology like i have always

01:14:15.020 viewed the phrase so-called to be sort of derogatory. I mean, that's what it's meant to be,

01:14:19.840 right? But here's the important thing about this ruling yesterday. When you look at all of the

01:14:27.080 COVID cases that went before judges prior to the convoy, or even prior to, let's say, 0.85

01:14:34.060 the Public Order Emergency Commission last year, most of the courts, most of the cowards that sit 0.92

01:14:42.540 on the bench in this country and i'm talking about the judges and the clown prosecutors in 0.94

01:14:48.000 this country most of these cowards were negligent and they took something called judicial notice 0.97

01:14:55.680 okay and it was the most cowardly act that they could have done to canadians because they had a 0.74

01:15:02.540 duty directive by the way from the from the chief justice of the supreme court of canada by the way 0.97

01:15:08.000 Yes, yes, and he's a fool and we'll get back to him because anything that goes to the Supreme 0.67

01:15:14.060 Court related to the convoy, he is going to have to recuse himself because during the 0.97

01:15:21.400 convoy, he spoke disparagingly against the convoy and that automatically should disqualify

01:15:27.620 him from being on the bench at the time any matter is brought before the Supreme Court.

01:15:32.080 He has already demonstrated his bias.

01:15:34.700 He cannot preside.

01:15:35.780 He cannot be part of the Supreme Court bench when a convoy case comes up.

01:15:41.280 But here's the difference, okay? 0.92

01:15:43.420 All of these cowards that occupy, you know, bench seats took judicial notice. 0.91

01:15:50.380 And what that means is they said, okay, we are going to defer to the opinion of the government. 0.95

01:15:57.980 We're not even going to look at their evidence.

01:16:00.040 We're not going to examine them for what they're saying.

01:16:03.240 we're not going to look at the evidence that the government is having. The government lawyers knew

01:16:07.960 that the benches, all the judges were taking judicial notice. And they said, you know why

01:16:13.760 we're doing this? Because we said so, because follow the science and the scientists work for

01:16:18.300 us and we tell them what to do. The judges all came out and said, oh, you know what? We're not

01:16:22.660 scientists. So we don't want to, we don't want to, you know, second guess the scientists. Okay,

01:16:30.320 but here's the issue. We have a separation of powers in this country for a reason.

01:16:37.700 And these people failed at such a fundamental function within being, you know, just the very

01:16:45.360 fact that you're a judge, you are, you have a duty to look at the evidence. You know, we have

01:16:52.620 a section in the charter of rights that specifically deals with evidence. Okay. This is a core value.

01:16:59.840 This is a core function of any judge.

01:17:02.180 Giving judicial notice and basically telling a Canadian, your evidence, I don't even want

01:17:07.380 to look at it.

01:17:08.100 I'm just going to take judicial notice, which means I'm only going to listen to the government

01:17:12.900 science and I'm not going to listen to yours because I'm not a scientist.

01:17:17.020 Well, guess what?

01:17:18.100 You're trained in examining evidence.

01:17:20.560 There's an evidence act.

01:17:22.400 Your job is to examine facts and make determinations. 1.00

01:17:26.480 They refuse to do that because they're fools and they're cowards. 0.99

01:17:31.120 Now, in this particular case, why it's so important is because they couldn't take judicial 0.99

01:17:38.180 notice with this.

01:17:39.640 This was not about following the science or the political science.

01:17:45.220 This was about following the law.

01:17:48.160 So the judge in this particular case looked at the facts, looked at the law, looked at

01:17:55.000 the charter of rights. And that's why this case is different. And this is how they're not going

01:18:00.240 to be able to appeal it in my opinion. And I'm not a lawyer. Okay. But I've had to learn quick.

01:18:05.220 And I learned a lot through living with Keith and Brendan and Bathsheba and Eva and every other

01:18:10.540 lawyer. Okay. So the, the issue is they could not hide behind a veil of cowardice or an excuse like

01:18:20.420 judicial notice they were forced in this particular case to look at the facts and the facts prevailed

01:18:27.760 and this is why we got the ruling interesting i was talking to a couple of lawyers today about

01:18:33.700 this and they're both convinced that the appeal may actually work because the the fix is in they

01:18:43.200 say right yeah and that really disheartened me but then again i looked at the two guys i was

01:18:49.700 talking with today and they're both kind of pessimistic dudes uh lawyers are not right so

01:18:54.640 because because of all of the turmoil that they've personally been through and all of the things

01:18:59.260 they've seen over the past four years they're banking on the safe side of the prediction which

01:19:05.600 would be it's going to be bad but i think it's going to be good um i think so now let's let's

01:19:11.500 quickly uh talk about the the armed forces you're a veteran and what you've been seeing uh that's

01:19:17.740 happened these past few months with tampons now in the in the men's restrooms and and whatnot

01:19:23.400 i mean how how badly does this rub you the wrong way this rubs me the wrong way because 0.94

01:19:31.140 it is first and foremost ridiculous um and and let me demonstrate the ridiculousness i'm sure 0.85

01:19:39.100 you've seen the mean the meme and the viewers have seen the meme you know put um you know 0.97

01:19:45.300 90 women on an island with 10 trans women, and in 100 years you come back, everyone's

01:19:53.240 dead, okay?

01:19:54.660 Put 90 women on an island with 10 men, and you probably got a thriving society, okay?

01:20:00.320 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it doesn't matter the amount of surgery you're going to go through

01:20:04.180 or what you believe, if you were born with male physiology, you don't need a tampon.

01:20:11.720 what you have done is you have weakened the morale of your fighting force now what is the

01:20:22.540 military's intent okay especially with the infantry let's just look at the army because

01:20:27.040 i was an army guy uh but i will say i did my last year in the military at cfb trenton which is the

01:20:33.160 biggest air force base we have which is where the uh the tampon dispensing machine in the mail

01:20:39.600 washroom was ripped off the wall. Okay. The job of the infantry is to close with and destroy the

01:20:47.260 enemy. Okay. That's the job. Every single person who is a member of the Canadian forces, their job

01:20:55.720 is in some way related to supporting the role of the infantry soldier on the ground. So if you're

01:21:03.620 an art, you're a artillery guy, you're supporting the infantry. If you're a ship driver, you know,

01:21:09.780 a battleship or a frigate, you're launching bombs onto the shoreline in support of the infantry that

01:21:17.440 are going in. If you're a fighter pilot, you're dropping bombs or you're shooting planes out of

01:21:21.260 the sky in support of the infantry. Everything we do always comes down to the tip of the spear,

01:21:27.460 which is the infantry. Me, I was a combat engineer officer. I was previous to that. I was infantry.

01:21:33.540 Combat engineer officer, our secondary role is to fight as infantry.

01:21:39.160 Okay.

01:21:39.660 So when I look at the fact that soldiers around, soldiers, airmen, sailors around this country

01:21:48.160 are going into gender ideology or all this ridiculous training that takes them off of

01:21:55.820 a shooting range or it takes them off a tank range or it takes them out of an airplane 0.96

01:22:00.540 or it takes them off of a ship, I think it's disgusting, okay? 0.64

01:22:06.360 It is disgusting.

01:22:07.340 Our military is so understrength, we're estimated to be between 12,000 and 16,000 vacant positions

01:22:14.320 within our regular force, okay?

01:22:16.380 We have somewhere around, our regular manning is somewhere around, you know, 50,000 to 60,000

01:22:21.320 regular force, Army, Navy, Air Force, okay?

01:22:24.620 That's not infantry.

01:22:26.200 that's some infantry brigades and all the support that goes to that okay let's talk about standards

01:22:35.420 and i take this this sort of point from drew mcgillivray again from veterans for freedom

01:22:41.240 who got it from andy stump a former navy seal you know when we talk about do we want standards on

01:22:49.580 the battlefield or do we want diversity on the battlefield okay the conditions on the battlefield

01:22:56.020 field, dictate the standard of training that your soldiers should have. They don't dictate how

01:23:02.760 diverse your fighting men and women should be. So if you're trying to achieve a standard,

01:23:08.200 then train to a standard. If you're trying to achieve a diversity or some sort of SGI or whatever

01:23:15.400 the acronym is this week about diversity, then your soldiers are going to get slaughtered.

01:23:21.720 If you're more worried about letting your fighting men and women wear purple hair and

01:23:26.840 earrings and makeup on the battlefield than you are in training them how to be an effective 0.97

01:23:31.100 fighting force, you're going to get them killed. 1.00

01:23:34.220 Okay, you're going to get them killed. 0.99

01:23:36.220 Why do we go through basic training? 0.99

01:23:38.340 You know why?

01:23:39.500 One, it's a weeding out process for people who are not mentally tough enough or suitable

01:23:44.580 for the military environment.

01:23:47.420 Okay, that's a big reason.

01:23:48.620 It's not initiation.

01:23:49.820 It's to weed out people that are not mentally tough enough to do it.

01:23:53.260 The second thing is, is to build a team spirit, a spree de corps.

01:23:57.900 It's to remove some of your individuality and put, you know, the mission, the equipment,

01:24:03.920 the men and women, and then yourself last.

01:24:07.080 Okay.

01:24:07.460 When we look at this diversity stuff, we're reversing that.

01:24:11.160 We're putting yourself first, who you are as an individual.

01:24:14.620 We're not putting the mission of the Canadian Armed Forces ahead, which is to defend the

01:24:19.580 people of Canada. And we bring this back full circle to what is CESA's section two is about

01:24:26.300 the, the preservation of the government of Canada. Okay. That's why the emergency act exists.

01:24:33.020 If the government of Canada is in direct threat of falling or the country of Canada is in peril

01:24:39.300 of falling. Okay. That's what it is. You need a functioning military to sometimes achieve that

01:24:44.720 in the time of war okay and you can't do that if you don't have if you if you have soldiers that

01:24:50.200 are so demoralized they're leaving they're quitting they're quitting at a rate that's

01:24:54.920 much higher than they're bringing in and recruiting off the streets and the ones that

01:24:58.600 they're bringing in are sorely disappointed because they're like you're this is a joke 0.71

01:25:03.600 i didn't sign up for this gender ideology crap i i i signed up because i wanted to be part of a

01:25:09.480 really high performing team now there's a follow-on effect to this okay we have four special 0.89

01:25:16.880 forces units in canada under the umbrella of canadian uh it's called can soft comp special

01:25:23.060 forces command you have jtf2 which is a tier one unit the equivalent of delta seal team six or dev

01:25:30.520 group and all these other you know the sas you've got seesaw you've got the helicopter squadron and

01:25:37.320 you have a unit called CGIRU. So we have four CANSOFCOM units. Okay. You don't change your

01:25:42.440 standard. You never change your standard. You don't drop the standard. So what does this mean

01:25:47.600 now when the Canadian Armed Forces has completely dropped its standard across the board, how are

01:25:53.280 these units supposed to recruit and select and accept people when they have no pool of soldiers

01:26:02.800 that are strong enough and mentally tough

01:26:04.780 enough for that challenge, which

01:26:06.720 means now, if you're needing a hostage

01:26:08.920 rescue on an airplane, who's

01:26:10.760 coming to get you?

01:26:12.280 These are the things that the politicians don't think

01:26:14.860 about because none of them serve in

01:26:16.740 the Canadian Armed Forces.

01:26:18.920 None of them have a background

01:26:20.700 in it, really.

01:26:22.080 What is the commander-in-chief of

01:26:24.660 the Canadian Armed Forces?

01:26:26.160 It's General Wayne Eyre.

01:26:28.640 He was an infantry

01:26:30.500 officer himself. He's

01:26:32.620 Special Forces Qualified, which means he's done the American Green Beret course.

01:26:36.920 He's done multiple deployments.

01:26:38.700 I think he's got a 45-year career.

01:26:41.400 You know, and at one point, he was an expert.

01:26:44.360 First I ever heard of him when he was a lieutenant colonel.

01:26:46.800 He was an expert in counterinsurgency operations.

01:26:49.400 You know, he's not a lightweight.

01:26:50.860 He's not a dummy.

01:26:51.860 But my God, I cannot understand why he has done the things that he has done to the Canadian Armed Forces, including...

01:26:59.900 Is he, is he completely like the military, completely independent from any sort of political,

01:27:05.080 uh, influence?

01:27:06.660 No, he, he reports to technically the King of England is actually his boss.

01:27:13.320 Cause he's the commander in chief, but in practicality, you know, he's got the, uh,

01:27:18.980 the minister of national defense and the prime minister's office.

01:27:23.380 Okay.

01:27:23.900 Like the military reports to the civilian oversight, uh, you know, the

01:27:29.620 civilians don't tell them how to do operations, but you know, the military gets its budget,

01:27:34.500 its funding, its direction from the minister of national defense who takes his direction from

01:27:39.060 his boss, which is the prime minister of Canada. So all of the, like an, and the previous defense

01:27:45.580 minister, I mean, what did she know about the military? Nothing, you know, at least with Bill

01:27:51.900 Blair, you know, he wore a uniform and carried a gun for decades as a police officer, but he's not

01:27:58.320 a soldier right so you know i i look at these uh you know the state of the military and i believe

01:28:06.680 one it's it's a direct result of a spineless coward like general wayne air who has just

01:28:12.700 abdicated his responsibility to know and promote the welfare of his soldiers in favor of his career

01:28:19.940 so that he could get promoted and it substantiated as the chief of defense staff for the canadian

01:28:25.340 armed forces because several officers in cds is prior to wayne air getting the job as cds

01:28:32.800 refused to give the vaccine mandate general air was the commander of the canadian army

01:28:39.520 they fired general vance then they fired general mcdonald under sexual allegations both men

01:28:46.840 refused to issue a mandate to get the coven 19 vaccine so they were accused of sexual misconduct

01:28:55.960 General Cadot, who briefed Wayne Eyre that he could not issue that order, it was illegal,

01:29:04.800 the JAG had already weighed in on it, the military know, he was accused of the sexual

01:29:09.480 misconduct and now is fighting this.

01:29:11.260 By the way, most of these officers, the 12 flag officers in the Canadian forces that

01:29:16.600 have all been accused of sexual misconduct have all been under the Liberal government.

01:29:20.520 Each and every one of these people are outstanding officers that had solid reputations.

01:29:25.760 And because the liberals didn't get their way, they crushed these people's careers.

01:29:29.660 And by the way, I can think of, uh, four of them have taken the liberals to court and

01:29:35.780 have all won and been completely exonerated and have had, uh, you know, won their civil

01:29:42.120 suits and they've got a non-disclosure.

01:29:44.220 So you don't know what the award was, but they've all been vindicated.

01:29:47.560 Okay.

01:29:48.660 General air, you know, was the commander of the army was in the acting position as CDS.

01:29:53.820 said yeah i'll issue that order the next thing you know he was substantiated as the commander

01:29:59.560 of the canadian armed forces he's retiring right he is retiring this summer he'll probably take a

01:30:04.960 job with the u.n okay so that makes sense so i guess the next person up is going to have to have

01:30:11.700 the same sort of ideology that general air has had if justin trudeau is going to be satisfied

01:30:16.980 yes yes yeah he'll have to or they'll put an acting my guess is it'll be uh general kerrigan

01:30:25.640 um i think she will probably be tapped as the next uh chief of defense staff i 0.86

01:30:30.600 you know she's the same trade as i was and she had a very solid reputation

01:30:35.600 uh in you know years past i've been out of the military since 2015 she was highly regarded

01:30:42.620 uh but it's my understanding she's been groomed for quite some time to eventually take over as

01:30:47.960 chief of defense staff and she'll be the first female officer to hold that position

01:30:52.320 how's the book doing my friend the people's convoy we doing all right

01:30:57.120 well you know uh i that's relative and and thanks for mentioning it by the way um you know the book

01:31:07.400 is important to me on a, on a personal level, you know, because I was there, it's a story that I

01:31:12.700 wrote about it, but I, I believe that the book itself is as much Canadian story, everybody who

01:31:19.320 supported and participated in the convoy, it's much their story. It is mine. Um, I, I'm going

01:31:25.880 to say, you know, recently we, we finally sold 1200 copies of the book, uh, across, you know,

01:31:32.140 on Amazon. Um, I would like to see more people, you know, read about what happened in the

01:31:39.540 background. Uh, I'm now also selling it on the veterans for freedom website and, you know,

01:31:44.400 every copy of the book sold veterans for freedom gets a $5 donation. And that donation goes into

01:31:50.600 a pot of money that is voted on by the 3000 V4F members that decide where that money is going to

01:31:57.160 be donated you know so um i would just it's it's never been about the money for me with this book

01:32:04.560 it's been about telling the story that i think canadians deserve to know you know what happened

01:32:08.920 in the background and also at the commission um and i say you know all the warts i want to i'm

01:32:14.560 telling some of the warts too not just the good stuff the good the bad the ugly thanks for coming

01:32:20.240 on again tonight man i love having you on the show you're a great guest and you've got a wealth

01:32:24.500 of information and some fantastic opinions and i'd love to have you back whenever you can

01:32:28.820 oh i'd love to come back on anytime you want me all right tom thank you uh we'll thank you again

01:32:34.340 thank you okay there is tom marazzo you guys uh the spokesperson i mean seriously when we talked

01:32:41.600 about the freedom convoy a couple of years ago we talked about who the main players were and tom said

01:32:49.280 tonight that he he joined late a couple of days after it started and somehow got

01:32:56.460 into the inner workings of things because he had some ideas about what to do and and people

01:33:03.660 needed to know at that point what to do things were chaotic and he brought a sense of order to

01:33:08.920 that and tom was one of the main spokespeople and one of the main liaisons between the convoy

01:33:15.700 and the police and we can't even say you know the police we should say ottawa police versus opp

01:33:25.680 versus rcmp because there were so many different police services involved there and tom was out

01:33:32.080 there all the time with chris barber and others trying to coordinate to make sure that there were

01:33:39.280 emergency lanes open and that people didn't act out as much as they could without making it seem

01:33:47.580 like they were being like the convoy members now being told what to do tom is incredibly gifted

01:33:54.840 at that he's one of those guys that makes you feel as though it was your idea right that's it for the

01:34:03.440 show tonight you guys tomorrow night i have um jason levine coming back on the show he was on

01:34:09.500 with pat king on monday night and of course he's got his own show it's called the levine show

01:34:13.840 jason specializes in the coots situation the four illegal prisoners as far as i'm concerned

01:34:23.540 and he talks a lot with the families of the four prisoners and tomorrow night jason's coming back

01:34:31.480 on the show with betty carbert chris carbert's mom and we're going to talk about obviously chris

01:34:39.260 carbert and as much as we can about the other guys who are being held without trial completely

01:34:45.380 and totally in in my opinion illegally uh just to find out how things have been going

01:34:52.520 for the families because they do talk to each other i'm not sure how frequently

01:34:58.080 the guys are allowed to get on the phone every so often and talk to their family members and

01:35:05.440 talk to people who can get the message out to us to all of us people like you people like me

01:35:12.640 about what's really going on inside and when this is all said and done and i believe it will be soon

01:35:20.300 based upon this court ruling that came out the other day even though there is a

01:35:23.900 a publication ban

01:35:29.280 that we're going to find out everything and they'll be released and their charges

01:35:38.300 will probably be stayed that's my opinion of it after having heard a lot of what's going on

01:35:45.540 behind the scenes it's going to take more time and i know many people are getting impatient with

01:35:52.080 everything but just remember guys we have had some big wins in this past week and we need to

01:35:58.440 keep up that momentum and that means keeping up our spirits and our positive attitude to raise

01:36:03.260 the vibration as they say so betty carbert and jason levine on the show tomorrow night i hope

01:36:09.260 you have a rest sorry the rest of a great night and a great day tomorrow and i will talk to you

01:36:14.340 tomorrow night at eight o'clock central for another shadow at night live stream brought to

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01:36:25.740 soon bye for now

The Shadoe Davis Show - January 25, 2024

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