Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents. He is a New York Times bestselling author, and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and Cambridge Union Society. He has also appeared on countless radio and television shows, and is a frequent guest on conservative talk radio shows. In 2018, based on his book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ, Stone predicted that the Deep State would go to any lengths to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president, and I predicted that there would be an attempted assassination on him. So there you have it: I was not given the word by God, but I deduced that just based on an enormous amount of research and an understanding of the inherent evil of the deep state, I had a pretty clear idea of what was at stake in continuing to hold on to power by the Deep state. Let s take a look at what I predicted and why I was so certain it was going to happen. Conversations That Matter with Alex Newman, Senior Editor at The New American Magazine. Alex Newman is a writer, editor, and editor at The Weekly Standard and The Daily Caller. Subscribe to Conversations that Matter on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices. Rate/subscribe to our new podcast, and become a supporter of The FiveThirtyEight s newest podcast - FiveThirtyeight s Podcasts That Matter Subscribe on Podchannels on Podcoin, Podcoin and Podcoin Connect with Anchor.fm Subscribe on Spare Tickets on PODCO Connect with a Friend of the FiveThirtyfour s PodcastChances Connect with Zachary Stone on Social Media: and Subscribe on Apeepers on Alyssa Stone on Insta-Rasmuson LinkedIn Learn more at Podcoin And much more! Thanks for listening to The Stone Zone Subscribe & Share the Stone Zone Podcasts on Podcrush? Thank you for listening and Share the Conversation That Matters? Subscribe and Subscribe to The Six Sigma & Subscribe to His Story on Instapaper & Subscribe on Itunes The Sixteenth Podcasts Join Us On Social Media . Music: The Myth of the Myth of Russian Collusion , The Little Brother Podcast
00:00:00.000The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.
00:00:07.500Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:11.540He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:17.160As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,
00:00:22.800and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:27.580Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:33.560And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:40.940Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:46.560Just the last 24 hours, we have learned more shocking developments regarding the attempted assassination of President Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania.
00:01:01.420Shockingly, the FBI director, in testimony before Congress yesterday, said that he doubted that Donald Trump had been raised by a bullet.
00:01:12.160This is an effort to delegitimize what was the horrific assault on President Donald Trump's life.
00:01:40.880The other shocking things we learned was that local law enforcement in Pennsylvania offered a drone surveillance of the site beforehand, and that was declined.
00:01:54.940The man they allege is the shooter, however, was able to fly a drone over the location to figure out the layout of things.
00:02:04.840And then, lastly, we are told by the FBI director that Thomas Matthew Brooks, the man that they claim is the man who shot at President Trump and killed Corey Compintori and wounded two other people,
00:02:23.800researched online details about John F. Kennedy's murder, and specifically the distance between Lee Harvey Oswald, who is alleged to have been the shooter from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building, and President JFK.
00:02:43.000It's strange because we've been told previously that all of Mr. Crook's social media footprint had been wiped.
00:02:53.760Then we learned that on the social media platform Gab, I'm on Gab, you can reach me there.
00:03:01.080I'm Roger J. Stone Jr. on Gab, that, well, it may have been the one place that Mr. Crook's social footprint had not been scrubbed, and based on his posts there, he is a Biden supporter, and he supported the lockdown during COVID-19.
00:03:21.060Now, they tell us that Mr. Crook's is a registered Republican, but we can't tell whether that is true or not, because the 2024 updates to the Pennsylvania voter lists are not yet published.
00:03:37.840We know that his mother is an active Democrat who voted in every Democrat primary and general election.
00:03:45.700That doesn't necessarily mean anything, but sources tell me that it may be technically true that Crook's was a registered Republican at the time of the shooting, but that he changed his registration in order to be able to vote for Nikki Haley in the primaries.
00:04:03.220Again, I say that is unconfirmed. Very soon, we will have the doubt, and we'll be able to see exactly when he changed parties, and if, in fact, as I have been told, he changed parties.
00:04:18.440I'm not a prophet. I'm also not a saint, although I am a follower of Jesus Christ, who has changed my life in every single way.
00:04:29.380But way back in 2018, based on my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, based also on my book, The Myth of Russian Collusion, I had a pretty clear idea what lengths the deep state would go to to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president.
00:04:51.660And I predicted that there would be an attempted assassination on him. Let's take a look.
00:04:56.520Welcome, everybody, to Conversations That Matter. I am your host, Alex Newman, senior editor at The New American Magazine.
00:05:01.660Back in late 2017, I interviewed Roger Stone, the legendary political operative. He was with Richard Nixon. He was with Ronald Reagan. He's been with Donald Trump, Senator Bob Dole.
00:05:11.600I mean, he's been right at the heart of American politics for generations.
00:05:14.280And he told me that Donald Trump was the real deal, that the deep state was after him, and that they were going to use anything necessary, including monstrous dirty tricks, to try to stop his progress in making America great again.
00:05:28.080And he actually predicted pretty much everything that happened. It was extraordinary, up to and including what Roger called Plan C, the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.
00:05:37.040So there you have it. Now, I was not given the word by God, but I deduced that just based on an enormous amount of research and an understanding of the inherent evil of the deep state and their stake in continuing to hold on to power.
00:05:55.440Then, about three years ago, I began predicting that Joe Biden would not be the nominee of the Democrat Party.
00:06:04.340And I believed, and still hold to be potentially true, that while Joe Biden would no longer be president, would not run for president, I also believed Kamala Harris would briefly become president.
00:06:20.500I went on to predict that I thought Michelle Obama could emerge as the strongest candidate for the Democrats.
00:06:28.840Let's take a look at least part of that.
00:06:31.460Now, as a veteran of many years in American politics, I'm going to tell you something somewhat shocking.
00:06:37.340Joe Biden will not be the nominee of the Democratic Party in 2024.
00:06:43.040Kamala Harris will briefly become president.
00:06:48.440Now, up until this morning, I thought it was extraordinarily curious that Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle Obama, clearly the most powerful and popular Democrats in the country, had not endorsed Kamala Harris.
00:07:03.580Today, this morning, they played a video, which sure looked AI-generated to me, at least partially, in which the Obamas appear to endorse Kamala Harris.
00:07:16.920But I would stress to you simply that under this system for the Democrat National Convention and the nominating process, no delegate is legally bound or bound by party rules to vote for Kamala Harris.
00:07:32.660And therefore, if by August 1st, she's running behind in the polls, if her fundraising is not standing up to scrutiny, because we now know, based on the reporting of my good friend James O'Keefe and many others,
00:07:49.940there is a huge amount of money laundering going on through Act Blue, in which people who haven't donated to Kamala Harris are being credited with multi-donations, in some cases worth tens of thousands of dollars.
00:08:06.340And then lastly, of course, is Kamala Harris' performance on the stump.
00:08:16.220Her 2020 election campaign for president was a dumpster fire.
00:08:21.800There's nothing in her stewardship of the vice president's office that would indicate that she's prepared for this challenge.
00:08:29.260Now we have a new thing going on in the media in which they're trying to dispute whether, in fact, Joe Biden, in fact, put her in charge of the border.
00:08:39.520This seems to be an argue of semantics.
00:08:42.560They don't like the word border czar because Trump, pardon me, because Biden never used that specific title.
00:08:48.940But reporters covering the event and covering Biden's announcement, which was carried on NBC, she was now in charge of the border.
00:09:00.680She will not be able to walk away from her responsibility for the open borders policy of the Biden-Harris administration, nor her role as the overseer of the border.
00:09:14.320All right, so now let's go to someone who knows a lot about prophecy.
00:09:20.260I make predictions, but I make them on the basis of study and knowledge and opinion, where Donne Clement Petruska, who's become a very close friend of mine, daughter of the legendary Christian prophet Kim Clement, joins us now from the House of Destiny.
00:13:47.240I can also now reveal that roughly four and a half months ago, the Christian prophet Robin Bullitt, who has become a great spiritual advisor and friend to me, advised me that he too had gotten word from the Lord about an assassination attempt.
00:14:03.800And he wasn't sure what to do about it, whether he should try to contact Eric Trump or whether he should try to get a meeting with the president.
00:14:14.760Ultimately, we decided that I would discreetly pass the warning on to the president, which I did.
00:14:20.880The president took it in and said that he was confident in his security, but they would all just pray about it.
00:14:32.480So Kim Clement was not the first person, was probably the first person that I know of to foresee this horrific sequence of events.
00:14:42.380But many people, including Robin Bullitt, go to Samuel 1 in the period in which we had two kings, Saul and David.
00:14:53.060And they believe that Saul is Joe Biden.
00:14:57.840They believe that David is Donald Trump.
00:15:00.660And there is, if you look at Samuel 1, there is an incident in which David is assaulted with a javelin, which nearly, very closely misses his head, skims across his ear.
00:15:22.540So, Donna, I'm going to turn this over to you because of your knowledge of your father's stunningly accurate track record about everything we are living through right now.
00:15:43.060I have been my whole life, but things, especially in this year, have really culminated.
00:15:47.500There have been multiple things that he prophesied over the years that are coming together right now.
00:15:52.960We're actually doing a special at the House of Destiny Network right now calling it Strange July because of what he prophesied about all of the seasons of a particular year that we now believe to be this year.
00:16:04.460And he spoke about a strange July and how much we have seen in this month of July, you know, with the assassination attempt, with the before that, the debates where we saw the condition Biden was in.
00:16:23.140And a lot was exposed, which is something dad prophesied a lot about.
00:16:27.220And we found this assassination attempt prophecy through a database.
00:16:34.180We have transcriptions of everything dad prophesied for 40 years.
00:17:19.360Some people had wondered if he was referring to Dick Cheney because it was 2004.
00:17:25.820But in my experience with him, when he would have a vision or a prophetic revelation, it would be something that he was almost, it was almost like he was transported in time to a moment.
00:17:38.040And so I'm very concerned about the VP.
00:18:12.680He prays, says the Lord, and took the mantle of Ronald Reagan so that this nation may experience great revival, great breakthrough.
00:18:26.840Great, great, great, great, great breakthrough, says the Lord.
00:18:30.720But truly, there shall be one that shall attempt to lead three others to his side, to kill and to take out.
00:18:45.600But am I with you tonight, says the Lord, where my warriors will stop in assassination, because your prayers will make the difference, says the Lord God.
00:21:36.460It could, of course, refer to the treachery and betrayal of Trump by Vice President Mike Pence.
00:21:43.520It could refer to the current vice president, Kamala Harris, and possibly her role or knowledge in the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.
00:21:56.120It could refer to the man that Donald Trump has chosen to be vice president.
00:22:03.240In other words, saying, look for support to your vice president.
00:22:07.480I think all those things are possibilities.
00:22:09.760The amazing thing, of course, is that we will find out.
00:22:12.720As always happens with Kim Clemens' prophecies, at first you don't fully understand them.
00:27:18.940And it was also so interesting how dad saw that this person, this president who would have this assassination attempt would lead many who are in obscurity into the light and the truth.
00:27:32.020And that's been the whole thing about this whole movement is waking up.
00:27:35.180We were even on the Reawaken America tour, this this word, wake up, and then the counter to that being woke is also very interesting in this time.
00:27:46.080And so I would like, if you could, to play the prophecy from Chicago, Illinois.
00:27:55.260I find it also important to pay attention to the dates and locations of where he was when he prophesied these things, because sometimes those can be a clue as well.
00:28:03.860But let's play that Chicago prophecy, if you guys have it, because he brings up the three enemies again.
00:28:09.460And God said, you are opening up a door in the heavens.
00:28:13.700Hear me, not only the state, but hear me, this nation.
00:28:17.640The three enemies that are inside will endeavor to assassinate, will endeavor to cripple, and will endeavor to steal via the taxes of the people.
00:28:30.080Lord, for there is a wicked system that is being concocted, that is being put together, to take from your hand what is unnecessary.
00:28:51.400And I will take lawmakers from the Midwest, lawmakers from the Northeast, for what has happened to the Kennedy, says the Spirit of God, was spoken of.
00:29:01.260Now I will join hands between Democrats and Republicans and do an unusual thing, says the Spirit of God.
00:29:22.780But even now that the Kennedys have come to this place, I spoke about it, that there would be a massive outbreaking and outpouring in the system in this nation, the political system.
00:29:37.500The three enemies that shall rise up and already on their way, I will take them, I will send the pushments against them, they will confound themselves, and this nation shall rise above the occasion and come to wonders with God, says the Lord.
00:30:22.500And in two of those dates, he sees three enemies trying to assassinate and kill them.
00:30:28.680In the one from 2005, he said there will be one that will leave three others.
00:30:32.580And then in this one, he's, he's mentioned them twice in this prophecy about the three enemies.
00:30:38.240So I think going forward, that's something we should look at is that he saw three people, three enemies, one leading three.
00:30:48.760And I think that's going to make sense later on.
00:30:51.160So anybody watching right now, I don't understand what that means yet.
00:30:53.860But it would be something to look for, because now that you've heard these prophecies, you will notice when they come to pass and you'll see it.
00:31:03.760And that's the beauty of prophecy as well, is once you've heard it, and that's been my mission this whole time, is make sure everybody can hear it.
00:31:09.060You think what you want, take from it what you will.
00:31:11.540But if you hear it and you see it fulfilled, that's going to help you to understand.
00:31:16.280And it also is, it shows you that God exists and is involved much more than we realize in the things going on, and is here to help us.
00:31:26.740Him seeing them stealing via the taxes of the people.
00:31:29.540I mean, this is something, I mean, just look at the war in Ukraine and all of the wars and all of the things and the suffering that's happened because of greed, because of people stuffing their pockets.
00:31:40.620And then the mention of the Kennedys, again, how interesting, because we have RFK Jr. running.
00:31:47.080Now, I don't think that means, and I've made it very clear, he is not going to be the president, but his presence, my dad seeing the presence of the Kennedys and what happened to the Kennedy family and what that meant for America back then and what it did to this country and a reconciliation happening and God doing something with the Democrats and Republicans.
00:32:05.880Now, if I look at them, even just the MAGA movement alone, it isn't just conservatives, you have a lot of people who were in between or on the other side that have come over.
00:32:16.500And it's not the traditional Republican Party that it was.
00:32:21.040And we see how the RINOs have resisted and become such a problem as well.
00:32:26.920And so God is sort of dealing with that.
00:32:28.980And he's telling us that in this prophecy.
00:32:30.620And then just the mention of the Kennedys, again, is great.
00:32:36.880And then the thing, too, that I found so interesting was there was a promise at the end of this that God said he would stop them, that he was intervening.
00:32:44.180He intervened and saved Donald Trump's life a few weeks ago now, whenever it was.
00:32:50.640And he says in that prophecy, God says he was going to stop them, send ambushments against them.
00:32:55.640So they have these plans and they're stealing from us and it's become murderous, but they will confound themselves.
00:33:03.800And you kind of see that playing out in the desperation we've witnessed, especially this month and with Biden stepping down and so much lying and just brazen hypocrisy.
00:33:15.620And as I mentioned before, they call Donald Trump the threat to democracy, but it is they who have taken Kamala Harris and all the money people gave to Biden and they're giving it over to Harris.
00:33:27.700And however, they're getting thinking they're getting away with it.
00:33:30.060It's absolutely just brazen, obvious in your face.
00:33:35.320And it's quite insulting, honestly, I would say to any Democrat who, you know, is just being told now that Kamala is going to be the nominee.
00:33:45.980So I'm interested to see what happens at the DNC convention and what happens there also, because dad, I'm kind of nervous to say this, but dad did see that there was a terror attack he saw coming at a Hyatt Regency in Chicago.
00:34:06.440And because this year of 2024 has been just so astounding as far as the fulfillment of all his prophecies, this was another one that that our viewers brought to my attention and just let me know, you know, your dad prophesied about a Hyatt Regency.
00:34:20.480Well, the DNC convention, I think that there's a Hyatt Regency.
00:34:23.340There's another hotel as well, but one of them is a Hyatt Regency.
00:34:26.280And so when I found this out, I immediately prayed for them because I don't wish that harm upon anybody, unlike the other side who have celebrated that Trump was attacked and are sad he didn't die.
00:34:40.140And that's really just terrible that things have come to that, that people feel comfortable saying such things about anybody.
00:34:48.180Um, but I do, I do see, uh, we, we are in a very tumultuous time and this year has been crazy.
00:34:58.720My dad in the seasons prophecy, which I would encourage people to go and why I couldn't play that today.
00:35:03.140It's too long, but it's, uh, from June 14th of 2014, which is 10 years ago.
00:35:39.220And in that prophecy, dad spoke about a strange July, uh, falls in the fall and, and hypnotic November.
00:35:48.300And so, I mean, I'm even making t-shirts for people because we are behaving prophetically in the moment because we've, we now realize this is the year.
00:35:56.340And so anybody who might want to watch that prophecy, it's called the seasons prophecy.
00:36:00.820And if you go to the Kim Clement rumble or YouTube channel, we have, we have it up there.
00:36:16.980And it's a little easier sometimes to find the prophecies there because we have so many videos coming through our network.
00:36:21.880But I encourage everybody to go and watch that season's prophecy.
00:36:25.880Um, I think I already sent it to you, Roger, but it's a little longer of a prophecy.
00:36:30.400We wouldn't have had time today to see it, but, uh, uh, many, many, many of the things dad prophesied are culminating in this year of 2024, which tells us how important this year actually is.
00:36:41.920And, um, not just politically, but for this nation and for the entire world really.
00:36:49.140And so, uh, I am grateful to have these prophecies.
00:36:52.000It's, it's helped a lot, but there are things in there that we must look for and pray about.
00:36:56.960And also when we hear the other prophetic voices like Robin Bullock and what he's seeing is aligning with what my dad saw, but they're 20 years apart.
00:37:05.700That's really some confirmation because, uh, it, it not only helps us through this, but it also shows us that God exists.
00:37:14.200He's alive and he, uh, is speaking through his prophets and helping his people.
00:37:20.660And so it's really important for the future of America, but also for our children and our grandchildren, um, through this, this unprecedented time in history.
00:37:35.220I should note this for the record that, uh, that Robin Bullock and I decided, uh, really at his request that this would all remain confidential.
00:37:47.540He was looking to get God's word to the president period and to do so on a confidential basis.
00:37:53.300Uh, I, I mentioned it now only because it has been proven to be true, uh, and, uh, thank God that the, uh, that, uh, the word was passed.
00:38:03.460The other thing I can tell you is that, um, there is indeed, uh, even though you've read this, there is a new Donald Trump.
00:38:11.760Uh, first of all, there's a lot of the old Donald Trump there.
00:38:15.220He is still, uh, proud, tough, determined, resolute, still has extraordinary stamina.
00:38:23.300Still got a great sense of timing and certainly public relations, political instincts for somebody who didn't come up through politics.
00:38:33.020But there seems to be a new calmness about him, a new serenity, a new, uh, a new sense, uh, that this is meant to be, that, that his life was spared for a specific purpose, and that God is not finished with Donald J. Trump, nor is he finished with this nation.
00:38:51.860Uh, so for the many, many, many pastors and others who over the last six months have contacted me or told me that, gee, I wish the president would talk more about his devotion to the Lord.
00:39:05.360I wish he would talk more about the role of God in his life, but he's now done that.
00:39:11.260If you look at his comments on True Social immediately after this horrific attack on him, uh, he's acknowledged that he is only with us through the grace of God, that his life was saved by the Almighty.
00:39:25.360Uh, this is, uh, this is, uh, this is slightly different Donald Trump.
00:39:30.040He's still the man I've known for 45 years, uh, but there's a sureness about him, uh, there's a soberness about him that is different.
00:39:39.920I am still confident, despite the fact that, politically, we're going to go through this period in which the mainstream media seeks to build Kamala Harris up, uh, in a way that is, uh, completely phony.
00:39:53.420They're going to try to deny that she was in charge, uh, of our policy on the border.
00:39:58.420It's a lie, uh, they're going to try to, uh, claim, uh, that she's raised a hundred or two hundred million dollars.
00:40:12.680They're going to try to tell us that she's not a Marxist, that she doesn't favor U.S. taxpayers paying for health care for every one of the, I think, nearly 20 million illegals who are currently in that country, in this country.
00:40:30.980They're going to try to tell us that she doesn't oppose fracking, uh, or the expanded exploration for gas and oil.
00:40:38.900As they know, for example, in states like Pennsylvania, uh, Ohio, uh, and even upstate New York, this is a very, very key issue.
00:40:48.900So they're going to try to reinvent her narrative.
00:40:52.620It's going to be extraordinarily different.
00:40:54.640She is, it's true, uh, one of the most, uh, left-wing members of the Senate during her time there.
00:41:02.480But name-calling, uh, is not going to win this contest.
00:41:06.280Uh, and in fact, uh, drawing attention to, uh, her intelligence or lack thereof, or her, shall we say, uh, morally lax attitude regarding sex.
00:41:18.840Those things are not going to defeat her.
00:41:21.300That's not the core of what we should be talking about.
00:41:25.620What we should be talking about is her inability to lead the country based on her record in the U.S. Senate and her record as vice president in the positions she took when she was running for president.
00:41:42.260Now, uh, as I said at the beginning, I won't believe that she will be the Democrat nominee until it is actually legally done, uh, in August.
00:41:51.440I see efforts to try to expedite that to lock her in.
00:41:56.620That's because there are still those in the Democrat Party who doubt her ability to win.
00:42:02.580Uh, yesterday's New York Post had told us that, uh, that sources around Joe Biden, uh, had told Post reporters that Obama had deep reservations about Kamala Harris's ability to win, uh, and that that's why he was withholding his endorsement.
00:42:20.680Today, we're told that he has endorsed Kamala Harris.
00:42:24.420Uh, I watched a video that seemed very stilted and fake to me.
00:42:29.520Uh, again, uh, if she's not beating Trump in the polls or in better position by August 1st, I still think there's great fluidity to this situation.
00:42:45.020Let's go back to this biblical reference because I, I need some guidance.
00:42:48.920Uh, Robin, uh, Robin, uh, and others told me that in Samuel 1, there is essentially the story of the two kings, uh, that, that Samuel, uh, talks, uh, extensively about the two kings, Saul, uh, and David.
00:43:32.400Uh, and then, of course, there is David.
00:43:34.800So if Saul is theoretically Joe Biden, uh, the illegitimate king, uh, and David, uh, is, uh, Trump, uh, then there is an argument that I have heard that in the eyes of God, uh, that, that we're in Donald Trump's second term.
00:43:53.280That, that despite what happened in the election in the eyes of God, we're in Trump's second term and that Trump has now been anointed, uh, for, uh, what would be a third term.
00:44:05.480Uh, uh, your, your father very specifically said that he saw Trump serving two terms, but he never said two consecutive terms.
00:44:16.620Uh, and he also may have been speaking, uh, in the, uh, in the, it was in the spirit in terms of this judgment, but the way it would be seen on earth.
00:44:27.560Oh, tell us about this section of the Bible, if you could.
00:44:31.340Um, yes, this is so interesting right now.
00:44:35.520Um, and I, you know, I, there, you, you can sort of say Saul is Biden, uh, and, and Trump is David, but it's, it's deeper than that because there is a spirit of, that is governing over leadership.
00:44:50.660And so this, this spirit of King Saul goes back to Obama and my dad was prophesying about that in reference to Obama and using that analogy all the way back then.
00:45:02.480And it does extend, especially because Biden was Obama's VP.
00:45:06.720There was a spirit over that, uh, uh, that presidency and that leadership.
00:45:15.220Um, and if you go to first Samuel, anybody interested in reading this, you go to first Samuel 15, read both of the Samuels because dad, my dad kept referring to these areas of scripture as sort of an analogy of what he was prophetically seeing.
00:45:31.780So it was sort of deeper understanding, like he would prophesy and then what is, what does this all mean?
00:45:36.160And the thing that Saul did was, um, the prophet Samuel went to Saul and told him he had to destroy the Amalekites.
00:46:08.780And he, and he, and he, he, he did not kill the King Agag.
00:46:13.540And, um, because of that, Samuel came to him and said, you have lost the throne.
00:46:21.520You will, you are, you know, even though he stayed King for a little while, he had lost that.
00:46:27.000And, and actually, if you read on, uh, uh, David, who was, it was a young boy at the time and was out in the, uh, you know, herding sheep and fighting bears and lions and having a good time.
00:46:40.260He was young, a young boy, uh, Samuel knew then when he had that encounter with Saul and, and first Samuel 15, where he confronts him about this and Saul apologized.
00:46:51.240He says, but I was just doing it as an offering to God.
00:46:53.600You know, uh, even though God told me not to save anything, I saved a little bit.
00:46:58.620And, and, and, and he tried to justify this by saying, well, it's an offering, you know, I'm, and, and, and really at the end of it is what is more important, your sacrifice, your obedience.
00:47:08.800And the answer to that is obedience is more important because God understands what he's directing us to do.
00:47:14.120And so when things like this happen, uh, obedience will be above sacrifice.
00:47:20.620And then also the story of Saul, because after that Saul kind of went nuts and then, uh, he used to have David come in and play the harp for him.
00:47:33.080There's that song about the chord that pleased the Lord.
00:47:36.840And in the song, it's a hallelujah actually was written by a Jewish man, but that, that song is talking about that strange occurrence that happened.
00:47:45.640I mean, David would play for Saul, uh, because he had become possessed and gone mad.
00:47:50.140And so we see some parallels here and what had happened and when, what has happened with Biden, especially in what, what's going on with his mind.
00:47:59.540And so I think it is a very, uh, uh, accurate analogy.
00:48:03.100And also because my dad again and again, and again, referred to Donald Trump as the David.
00:48:08.680And when God spoke of him, it was my David.
00:48:12.340And also when he spoke your name, he was then again, using an analogy and said, remember the name stone, because they, he will have the stone that will kill the giants.
00:48:29.500So we see the BRICS nations joining together to, uh, you know, take over with economy and money and stuff and, and, and, and get de-dollarized and get rid of the dollar and weaken America.
00:48:41.940This is ultimately what dad was seeing and what God's plan was.
00:48:45.680And, you know, through all this experience, we hear about Q and the plan and all that, which is quite funny because when my dad prophesied about this, he said, God's has a plan and the plan is so brilliant.
00:48:58.080And so when you see Biden descending into madness and Trump dodging bullets, that's only God could have done these things.
00:49:06.500These are not things that men could have made happen.
00:49:09.300Um, you know, as far as Trump surviving the assassination attempt anyway.
00:49:13.620And so it's, it's, it's becoming so like obvious and you can find in the Bible.
00:49:19.960And it was more than just my dad, I believe Robin Bullock and even Amanda Grace and others, other prophetic voices who are here now, uh, have also made reference to this area of scripture.
00:49:32.580So I do encourage anybody who's interested, go and read first Samuel 15 is particularly where we're talking about, but read all of it because, um, my dad prophesied about Trump and he said, he's one of the brothers, but singled out for presidency of the United States of America.
00:49:48.000Now, when he's, when he said that he's, he's again, going back to the story and Samuel, uh, this is later in Samuel, but he, he, he goes and, uh, he, he meets Jesse.
00:50:01.120He was David's father and meets all of David's brothers.
00:50:04.740And he says, no, this isn't, he's looking for the King.
00:50:20.460Um, you know, he didn't need, he wasn't trying to be the King at all, but he ended up being one of the greatest Kings of Israel and one of the greatest voices in the old Testament.
00:50:29.000And so, um, you know, he wrote the Psalms, uh, and he was a musician.
00:50:34.220And my dad always liked that too, because my dad was a very, very talented musician.
00:50:38.200And so, and worshiping God through his music was very important to him.
00:50:42.980And so he already loved King David and, and, uh, even made songs about the Psalms, certain Psalms that David wrote.
00:50:49.840And so again, we keep coming back to this David taking down the giant.
00:50:54.000And so there are the small details that you'll find there's deeper meaning, and then there's, there's sort of overhanging themes.
00:51:01.720And so when you can look at prophecy like that, and then go to the Bible and find it there, then, you know, you're on the right track too.
00:51:07.800And of course, the confirmation from other prophetic voices is, is, uh, um, very encouraging because then, you know, okay, this God showed Kim Clement years and years ago, and he showed Amanda Grace a week before, and he showed Robin Bullock four months before, and none of them had any way of communicating these things.
00:51:26.600They're just, they're prophesying, doing their own thing, but when it lines up, you know, it's from God.
00:51:53.240I'll have to look it up, but yes, he did.
00:51:55.100He saw, he saw that and he actually named Hamas.
00:51:58.460And, uh, uh, there was, there's so much that he prophesied about Israel.
00:52:02.100Israel about Netanyahu and about what God would do in the United States of America and Israel at the same time.
00:52:08.200That's also very important because there's, uh, we saw how Netanyahu, uh, and, and Trump, when they got together, they had, they were figuring out peace accords and things.
00:52:18.440And, uh, with the Abraham Accords, sorry, peace agreements.
00:52:20.880And then we've had this sort of interim time of Biden, which dad prophesied about this too.
00:52:26.920He said, uh, that he had done this, allowed it because in darkness, faith grows and in despair, faith grows.
00:52:34.160People needed to actually have this touch them in their own lives to be able to see how bad the corruption has gotten.
00:52:40.580It is no longer even, it's not even partisan.
00:52:42.560Although we see that the left is really gone, uh, uh, you know, tip the scales in the wrong direction, which would require a balancing of things as well.
00:52:53.440Uh, but God is actually transforming the politics.
00:52:57.160And we see this happening in a time of great change all over the world.
00:52:59.980We see technology advancing very rapidly and things changing very quickly, how we see things, how we communicate.
00:53:06.800It all happened in a very short amount of time, which has been quite shocking for a lot of people.
00:53:12.060And with, with this kind of change, there's always going to be good and evil, no matter where you go, no matter what you do, you're always going to find that.
00:53:19.380And it seems very basic, but it is the truth.
00:53:22.040And so, um, navigating through that, uh, we are very grateful to have the, the prophecies of not only my dad, but others.
00:53:31.620Now, voices that he prophesied would come.
00:53:35.460You're going to, prophetic voices are going to be coming because God is highlighting this right now because it's a needed thing.
00:53:41.220We are, as my dad saw many years ago, now, 1993, he, God showed him a vision about the warriors of the new millennium, that they would be unlikely people.
00:53:55.780They wouldn't be your typical, what you would think a Christian was, but that God was going to use them in a unique way.
00:54:00.880And we do see that, that happening now.
00:54:03.200And, and with the way the internet is and social media and how quickly we pass information and news, it is easier for us to see the truth.
00:54:11.460And some of those truths have been very, very difficult to look at.
00:54:15.640And so just to get people to look has been hard.
00:54:18.080But in doing so, there is a healing coming and a restoration to America.
00:54:22.860And that's ultimately what dad saw as well.
00:54:25.420Well, Donny, if there's two things that I have learned in my relatively brief faith journey, it is, first of all, the God is, God has often used broken vessels of to do his will.
00:54:40.740And then secondarily, in every great battle in the Bible, the forces of the Lord are always overwhelmingly outnumbered, but they are also always victorious.
00:54:54.700I think in those two things, I take solace.
00:54:58.780Every day, I begin the day with a prayer.
00:55:04.540I have a very good friend in Canada who sends me a Bible verse recommendation by email every single day.
00:55:14.840Saves me rooting around looking for things that will bolster me, things that will educate me, things that will give me strength and resolve and wisdom.
00:55:42.760She, too, also foresaw many of these events that you referred to.
00:55:49.480For some time, I have believed that there is a Judas around Donald Trump.
00:55:54.600I have a theory about who that person or persons might be.
00:55:59.140I'm not going to raise that here or anyplace else, but it is a very legitimate concern.
00:56:07.600In the case of Robin Bullock and others, there is a deep belief that the word of God includes a warning of yet another attack on the president.
00:56:19.420And from a strictly political point of view, that makes perfect sense because the deep state, call them whatever you want, the ruling elite, the globalists, it doesn't matter what you call them.
00:56:31.700But this cabal of unelected bureaucrats, billionaires and their allies throughout the government, in the intelligence agencies, in our military, in the think tanks, in the defense contracting companies, they realize that if Trump returns to the White House, that you're going to have a reckoning.
00:56:57.640It's about equal protection under the law.
00:57:01.000Those who sought to destroy the lives of others based on a lie, as, for example, they did in the case of General Michael Flynn, one of the greatest men I've ever known, then they should be held responsible for that.
00:57:15.300There is no statute of limitation when it comes to treason.
00:57:19.020So they have used the courts illegitimately to try to destroy people, and they fear that ultimate reckoning.
00:57:28.260All right, unfortunately, I would love to do this for, I have so many other questions, but we are out of time.
00:57:33.740I want to thank my very special guest, my sister in Christ, Donne Clement Petruska, for joining us.
00:57:41.960Just tell people very quickly where they can see your great work.
00:57:50.340It's also houseofdestiny.org, because we have a network, a prophetic network, and we have all kinds of shows that we stream throughout the week.
00:58:00.140And so I encourage you to go over there and look.
00:58:01.660And then I do a live show on Sundays called Code Breakers Live, and we do it on YouTube, Rumble, X, and on our network.
00:58:13.100And so if you are on YouTube or Rumble, I'm surprised we're still on YouTube.
00:58:17.680But if you can find Kim Clement there, you'll be able to watch live.