Garrett Ziegler is the founder and chairman of Marco Polo, a nonprofit research organization that has published the entirety of Hunter Biden's laptop. He served as an associate director in the White House of President Donald Trump in his first term in the Office of Trade and Manufacturing.
00:00:00.000And we're back in the Stone Zone. Joining me now, Garrett Ziegler. He is the founder and chairman of Marco Polo.
00:00:07.520That is the nonprofit research organization that has published the entirety of Hunter Biden's laptop.
00:00:16.940He served as an associate director in the White House of President Donald Trump in his first term in the Office of Trade and Manufacturing.
00:00:26.520Garrett Ziegler has a degree in economics from St. Louis University, lives in Illinois with his wife and all American children.
00:00:33.680He is a cousin of White House Press Secretary Ron Ziegler, who was most famous for walking back one of his Watergate statements, saying that his previous statement was now inoperative.
00:00:45.660One of my all time favorites. Garrett Ziegler, welcome back into the Stone Zone.
00:00:50.400Thank you for having me. Yes, I, you know, it's a foundation of Western law that you can't be held to account for the sins of your father.
00:01:00.220Well, I wouldn't call that a sin by Ron, but definitely something that I wouldn't say.
00:01:03.980But, hey, Ron was loyal above all, and that I really admire.
00:01:08.180He was a very good man. And the deep state remove Richard Nixon, we now know this, based on declassified documents,
00:01:14.800the Central Intelligence Agency, well aware of the plan to break into the Watergate, infiltrates the Watergate burglar team with multiple CIA operatives still on the CIA payroll, still answering to their handlers.
00:01:27.740It's a setup. It's interesting because the Watergate prosecutors and the Senate Watergate Committee both knew of the CIA's active involvement,
00:01:36.840yet they were barred from publishing a minority report.
00:01:40.140They were barred from asking any questions. Anyway, we're here to talk about, we're here to talk about today,
00:01:47.380your nonprofit organization, 501c3, Marco Polo, has now published yet again the entirety of Hunter Biden's laptop contents.
00:01:59.140We now know definitively that this is not Russian disinformation.
00:02:02.180You can imagine how shocked I was to get a threatening letter from Hunter Biden's lawyer, Abby Lowell,
00:02:11.400considered by many to be the worst lawyer in America, the cleanup man for the deep left,
00:02:18.080even though anything I know about Hunter Biden's laptop I read in the New York Post.
00:02:23.640I never had the laptop contents, never discussed it with Mayor Giuliani, who evidently quite legally did.
00:02:30.060It is an abusive process, but this is an amazing accomplishment.
00:02:35.440Folks, you can go to bidenlaptopemails.com, that's bidenlaptopemails.com,
00:02:42.120to order a copy of the 644-page dossier on the infamous abandoned device.
00:02:49.960The great thing about this report is it's comprehensive, it's authoritative,
00:02:53.280it describes 459 violations of state and federal laws and regulations that were all on his hard drive.
00:04:38.540And so we have added – and we are going to add more features to this, meaning users will be able to bookmark particular emails like 10 held by H for the big guy, that infamous email.
00:04:52.060All of Hunter's Chinese business deals wherein he got at least $7 million at the floor, not a ceiling, at least $7 million for no discernible worker experience.
00:05:02.260All of those emails are on this, and it's the only place in the country where you can go view it.
00:05:07.780So I'm grateful for you having me on to talk about this because we are basically completely shut out of the mainstream on cable TV, I mean.
00:05:19.040It's very hard for our work to get any attention on the mainstream.
00:05:22.800But there's this website out there that's completely free, completely secure.
00:05:25.800And I want everybody not to have trepidation about going to this because we redacted genitalia, and we've redacted Social Security numbers and credit card numbers.
00:05:34.540And if even that doesn't convince you, all your listeners should know that Hunter's ridiculous lawsuit against Marco Polo and me personally was dismissed with prejudice, meaning Hunter can never bring these ridiculous claims against us again.
00:05:47.500So there's literally no legal risk anymore, which is, you know, a good thing to have off my back.
00:05:52.620But that's where that attack dog, Abby Lowell, came in.
00:05:56.240He just said things that were untrue, and the press parroted his ridiculous allegations.
00:06:03.020So here's an important question for you, Garrett.
00:06:05.260Who has worse hair, Abby Lowell or Congressman Jamie Raskin?
00:06:12.520And can we talk about this for 90 seconds?
00:06:14.880Just because Jamie Raskin, it really is a bird in my saddle.
00:06:18.440He's one of the most despicable members of the lower chamber to ever be in the history of the United States of America.
00:06:26.420First of all, son of a huge commie, foreign agent, degenerate novelist, Marcus Raskin.
00:06:35.040And what I loathe about Jamie is not just his lying, but when he had cancer, which isn't his fault – I'm not making fun of him for having cancer – but when he did have cancer, it looked as if he took a black spray paint can and literally sprayed it on top of his head.
00:06:53.540Meaning it's one thing to look like that Prison Mike character from The Office with a bandana on your head.
00:07:34.360I hope that the district of Maryland – if I were the U.S. attorney today in the district of Maryland and I saw the FHA complaint in President Trump's true social, I better be in paneling a grand jury.
00:07:46.060That guy ripped off the taxpayer for tens of thousands of dollars.
00:07:51.480So – and by the way, all these characters that I'm alluding to, Raskin and Schiff, even though they're not directly communicating with Hunter, their names are in the laptop emails.
00:08:04.460So what the goal is with this email database, which we first put up in May of 2022, it's for other reporters, and there have been over 25 articles from the New York Post who they've linked their stories to our database.
00:08:21.900So they'll talk about an email and then put the hyperlink to our – to the exact email out of the 128,000 in the article, and that really makes my heart sing because I know this story, this 200 gigabytes, is bigger than just what I can go through.
00:08:37.000So it's really a repository for other researchers and writers to use in their stories, Schiff's in the emails.
00:08:47.740It's one of the first peering into the American swamp ever, really, meaning there's been no – very rarely is this much primary source material going to be available to the public without redactions in their communications.
00:09:05.600Obviously, a guy on our team spent the better part of a month just covering up the genitalia of the 46 U.S. president's family.
00:09:12.560So then by the way, I mentioned this on your program before, but one of Abby Lowell's ridiculous causes of action in his lawsuit against me is that I covered up his client's genitalia.
00:09:24.560They called it data modification because I put black boxes over his client's genitalia.
00:09:30.900So according to Abby Lowell and Hunter's other attorneys, according to their own logic, they would have preferred their client be naked in our publications.
00:09:38.860And because we're Christians, we don't distribute pornography, but it is fascinating that Winston Straughan, who is now suing Hunter, allowed their firm name to be put on a lawsuit accusing me of data modification just because I was a gentleman to Hunter and covered up his own genitalia.
00:09:56.820Once again, you can go to bidenlaptopemails.com, that's bidenlaptopemails, to get your own copy and to look at this extraordinary body of work.
00:10:08.000The annotations are very helpful to help the average American understand who's who and which one of Hunter's co-conspirators was doing what.
00:10:17.180As I recall, in one of these deals, Hunter got significant equity in a Chinese energy company.
00:10:24.420What ended up happening to that stock?
00:10:27.820Well, it's an interesting case because the U.S. lobbyist was arrested in November of 2017.
00:10:36.220His name was Patrick Ho, and he was tried and convicted, spent some time in the clink.
00:10:41.380And during his recorded prison interviews and phone calls, he was trying to get Xi Jinping's attention to help them out.
00:10:51.020So basically, once this guy named Patrick Ho got arrested, that energy company called CEFC disintegrated, and Xi Jinping arrested the main honcho, Ye Jinming, in China.
00:11:05.340So both the U.S. guy – well, he's from Hong Kong, but he spent a lot of time in the States, about two decades.
00:11:11.480Both Patrick Ho and the CEFC chairman were both arrested, and Patrick Ho, at least, is alive.
00:11:18.400The Chinese fellow, Ye Jinming, has not been heard of since 2018, and he's probably fish food at the bottom of the Yangtze.
00:11:27.060But the arrest of Patrick Ho blew that operations cover.
00:11:32.080That energy company was trying to spread the Belt and Road Initiative in the Western world from Latin America all the way up to the U.S., and the Bidens – the Bidens were going to be the U.S. representatives for this ChaiCom company.
00:11:46.560They were trying to set up meetings with Andrew Cuomo, all these folks.
00:11:51.380We actually have the dope chart that Jimmy Biden sent to Hunter of every single Politico that they were going to try to set up meetings with.
00:11:59.360And, of course, they got $7 million for no discernible work.
00:12:24.240I don't think that just because you use drugs, you don't get to defend your family.
00:12:27.520So Hunter was actually convicted of a stupid charge that maybe overturned at SCOTUS someday, but they didn't charge him for the obvious money laundering that he was engaged in.
00:12:37.440And I'm furious at David Weiss and that whole special counsel operation.
00:12:41.620And the Congress has been ineffective, to no one's surprise, at getting to the bottom of that.
00:13:28.000And November 7th, when November 7th went by, I know the election was on the 5th, but by the 7th, I was already thinking of you, Roger, saying, hey, whatever entity, whether it's the Southern District of Florida, whatever, they better drop that BS on you.
00:13:42.800Because remember, with Hunter's pardon, with his pardon, that too meant all of the fines and interest and penalties went away.
00:13:49.940So it makes me furious when they're trying to fleece folks like you with interest and penalties, and then this decrepit crackhead Hunter Biden not only doesn't get to go to prison, but all of his civil liabilities get wiped out too.
00:14:15.760When we come back, I want to ask you, the House has just minutes ago passed a historic cryptocurrency legislation, sending it to the president's desk.
00:14:23.780This is indeed a massive positive for America.
00:14:27.720I want to talk about that when we get back.
00:14:29.580They have passed a regulatory framework for stable coins.
00:14:34.980Great credit to Secretary of the Treasury Scott Besson, who's an out-the-side-the-box libertarian thinker, staunch supporter of the president, and I think among his very best cabinet picks.
00:14:47.300We'll be right back with Garrett Ziegler.
00:14:49.260He is the founder and chairman of Marco Polo.
00:14:51.760I think it's marcopolo.org, as I recall.
00:14:54.220But go to bidenlaptopemails.com, bidenlaptopemails.com, and take a look.
00:15:01.280Order your copy of this incredible 644-page dossier and get the truth from Marco Polo.
00:15:21.340He's the founder and chairman of Marco Polo.
00:15:23.500That's the nonprofit organization that has taken upon themselves a massive project to expose corruption surrounding Hunter Biden and the Biden crime family.
00:15:36.760Garrett, let me ask you an important question.
00:15:39.040Is there, putting aside the Supreme Court's decision about immunity and the president, in a normal circumstance,
00:15:45.720has enough been uncovered so that Joe Biden, the former president, could have reasonably been prosecuted for these massive million-dollar payments that seem to have made their way to him?
00:16:09.280And they uncovered the involvement of Joe Biden's power of attorney, an 84-year-old attorney in Delaware named Mel Monza.
00:16:16.180He's been Joe Biden's power of attorney since 1987.
00:16:19.840And everything that Joe and Jimmy do runs through Mel's firm.
00:16:24.620And there was a check that came from Jimmy Biden to Joe for $40K.
00:16:30.040And that money came in part from the Chinese and in part from a now-defunct health care company called AmeriCorps.
00:16:38.200However, the reason why this is important is because those checks occurred at a time when Joe was out of the vice presidency.
00:16:44.480Obviously, the US or Trump v. U.S. SCOTUS precedent only applies to the president, not the VP.
00:16:51.420But even if we were to take an expansive view of the ruling and say that it does apply to the VP and thus all of the 951 violations or 219 violations that Joe engaged in when he was the vice president, that CHICOM money came at a time when Joe was out of office.
00:17:10.340They were acting as unregistered agents for a foreign principle, and that foreign principle was, like you said, CEFC, that Chinese conglomerate that was attempting to create Belt and Road infrastructure projects.
00:17:24.260And everybody can go look up US v. Patrick Ho that took place right in the middle of the WABC viewership.
00:17:33.360I mean it was at Foley Square, that trial, and obviously he was convicted.
00:17:40.480And those violations were within that period before he became president through the rigged election and after he was vice president.
00:17:51.020So, yeah, any fair two-bit FBI special agent would see the paper trail, and they would see that the money ultimately was washed through multiple entities.
00:18:07.620The laptop is sort of like a – you know those peepholes in doors?
00:18:11.960The laptop is like a peephole, meaning we can only see a portion of the interaction.
00:18:17.260Sometimes Hunter would say, hey, text me on WhatsApp.
00:18:20.340So we'd have a portion of the conversation on iMessage, but then the WhatsApp message wasn't – or the WhatsApp conversation wasn't captured.
00:18:29.920But what the feds have is the benefit of collating all of that data, and it's why people are mad about the Epstein communications fallout.
00:18:37.320It's because the feds are sitting on this trove.
00:18:40.660They're sitting on the result of the search warrant of the Manhattan townhouse, and they have all this primary source evidence.
00:18:46.460And, of course, nobody wants to see child sexual abuse material or any of the victims identified by face or whatever.
00:18:53.840But they are sitting on a trove, and I just hope that they move to unseal.
00:18:59.460So, like you said, I listened to your speech intently from Florida this past weekend.
00:19:04.460That's such an easy win that the DOJ – and they, thank God, just got rid of Maureen Comey – they could do tomorrow.
00:19:12.140They could apply to have an unsealing in the SDNY for a deceased individual.
00:19:17.140I mean, it would be one thing if Epstein were still alive.
00:19:21.300I totally agree, and I think that is the easiest way.
00:19:24.420Again, the president simply needs to direct his attorney general to direct the interim U.S. attorney for the Southern District of North to move in federal court to unseal the grand jury testimony.