The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - April 18, 2024


Is The Gov Still Using MKUltra-Type Mind Control? Luke Rudkowski Enters The StoneZONE w⧸ Roger Stone


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Roger Stone is joined by Luke Rutkowski, founder of We Are Change, an independent media organization dedicated to exposing corruption and reporting truthfully on worldwide events, and Troy Smith, co-host of Slingshot News, joins the show to discuss censorship and the need for free speech on the internet. The Stone Zone is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. New York Times bestselling author and long-time friend of President Donald Trump, Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents and is a longtime friend and advisor of President Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four+ decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone is a pop culture icon. And now, here s your host Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone! Join us for another great show for you today with a great show. -Roger Stone -The Stone Zone with Roger Stone - The Stonezone with Troy Smith - The StoneZONE and The Best Political Show by The Daily Caller to help you decide what s real and what s fake. in the world. Thanks for listening! -Jon Sorrentino Tim Poole - Tim Poole - Tim's YouTube channel Tim's Podcast Michael Malice - Tim s Tim's Timcast IRL - - Blair White - Alex Jones - Alex Jones - and much more! and much, much more... on this episode of The Stonez Zone with the Stonezone & much more!! in this episode is a must-listen to the show! . And if you like it, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe, rate, review, and subscribe to The Stonezezeep and tell a friend about it! on Podchaser and share it on Insta- or share it so we can keep sharing it on the show on your thoughts on it on social media and other places where it can help spread the word out there about it everywhere else! Thank you! ! Thanks again for listening for sharing it with your friends and spreading the word to the rest of the world! Cheers, Jon & Brett Jon


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.
00:00:11.260 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:15.620 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:21.300 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,
00:00:26.660 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:32.260 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:37.600 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:45.100 Welcome. I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:50.260 We have a great show for you today. Luke Rutkowski, who's the founder of We Are Change,
00:00:56.660 a bold, independent, investigative journalist, joins us.
00:01:02.380 And to help that discussion, I want to bring on my co-host, Troy Smith of Slingshot.news, joins us now in the Stone Zone.
00:01:14.440 Roger, as always, it's an honor to be here.
00:01:16.700 Yeah, pleasure. Thank you so much for having me.
00:01:18.700 So, Luke, do we have? Okay, good. Excellent.
00:01:22.920 So, anyway, folks, Luke Rutkowski is the founder of We Are Change.
00:01:26.580 It is a nonpartisan, independent media organization dedicated to exposing corruption and reporting truthfully on worldwide events.
00:01:36.680 Luke is a journalist, entrepreneur, and podcaster who co-hosts The Best Political Show.
00:01:41.880 He's known for his many confrontations with the global elites, including his on-the-ground reporting around the world and actually raiding Jeffrey Epstein's island.
00:01:53.460 He's also a survival and self-defense instructor, as well as an advocate for freedom and liberty.
00:02:02.260 And like me, he's a great admirer of Ron Paul.
00:02:06.960 Luke, thank you so much for joining us in the show today.
00:02:09.580 Absolutely. It's a pleasure. Thank you so much for having me on today.
00:02:14.900 So, you know, there's so much going on, I'm not really even sure where to start.
00:02:20.440 I did your show last week, by the way, had a terrific time.
00:02:24.340 It's amazing how fast, you know, we did a segment for YouTube, then we did a segment for Rumble,
00:02:30.180 since unfortunately on YouTube there's certain matters that they won't let you discuss.
00:02:35.580 I could have gone for another hour. It was very interesting and I had a great time.
00:02:39.580 No, there's so many things that we could definitely delve into and it sucks that YouTube provides such a limited perspective on what we can and cannot say.
00:02:48.920 But I think more and more people are becoming aware of it.
00:02:52.120 YouTube is still a battleground to have a major information war on, but it's a place that a lot of people are leaving.
00:02:59.520 As just recently, a major podcast episode that I did with Tim Poole on TimCast IRL with Joe Rogan, with Michael Malice, with Alex Jones, with Blair White,
00:03:13.860 was just retroactively deleted from Tim Poole's YouTube channel, a podcast that was awesome.
00:03:21.060 The conversation was even within the purview of what YouTube allowed, but YouTube literally just came out and said,
00:03:27.820 you know what? No, we're going to give you a bunk reason and we are going to delete that larger epic podcast in Austin, Texas,
00:03:37.020 inside of a trailer that really spoke to so many people.
00:03:41.200 The video had millions of views. It sparked so many interesting conversations.
00:03:45.700 And now YouTube looks like they are going after Tim Poole's channel.
00:03:49.100 They went after my channel for a very long time.
00:03:51.360 They've been going after it. They've been unsubscribing a lot of different individuals.
00:03:55.480 I think we were one of the first channels to ever be demonetized on YouTube.
00:04:01.040 And our kind of confrontations with the head of Google really didn't kind of help us, especially at Tildeberg.
00:04:08.200 But we always were kind of true to ourselves.
00:04:10.900 We have a very strong and loyal audience.
00:04:12.920 And if it wasn't for our audience, we wouldn't exist as an independent media organization.
00:04:17.900 There's a lot of people that have come and gone throughout the 20 years that I've been in this industry.
00:04:22.380 And it's not an easy industry to be in.
00:04:25.840 There's a lot of odds against us.
00:04:28.180 There's a lot of powerful individuals that don't like us speaking truth to power,
00:04:32.780 that don't like us sharing ideas, raising questions,
00:04:36.100 or even just showing people what's really happening in this world.
00:04:39.840 And it's been an uphill battle.
00:04:41.780 It's been a very contested battle.
00:04:44.640 But it's been a battle that has been absolutely worth fighting,
00:04:48.040 that challenges you, that tests you, and really shows you what you're kind of really made of.
00:04:53.880 As, of course, a lot of people come and go, but there's been a lot of dedicated people,
00:04:57.860 yourself, Alex Jones, that are still in this against all the odds that are put up against them.
00:05:05.500 Well, I used to think that censorship, cancellation, shadow banning, limiting free speech
00:05:11.660 on the Internet, was the largest single problem in the country, really,
00:05:16.500 because you can't solve any other problem unless you have an ability to tell the truth and educate people.
00:05:22.920 I now believe artificial intelligence is even a greater threat,
00:05:27.220 because I could take this recording after the show's over.
00:05:32.080 Luke, I could take your voice.
00:05:33.480 And for about $130, I could create an audio of you planning to rob a bank.
00:05:39.600 And unless you used AI detection software, you'd never know that it wasn't you.
00:05:46.840 This is the devil's tool.
00:05:48.800 And I think you can look for the left and the globalists to use it extraordinarily extensively
00:05:54.780 in this next election cycle.
00:05:58.080 Oh, absolutely.
00:05:59.400 And it's not just kind of overt ways like you described.
00:06:03.200 There's also a lot of subtle things that they could be doing,
00:06:05.760 especially implementing algorithms, especially implementing kind of emotional predictive programming,
00:06:11.260 seeding ideas in your head.
00:06:12.880 As, of course, today's video that I'm going to be releasing on youtube.com forward slash we are change
00:06:18.400 is specifically around the larger subjects of how the Intel agencies have had a hand in the entertainment industry.
00:06:25.220 And for a very long time, they not only worked with actors and actresses when it came to kind of gaining information,
00:06:31.280 but when you look at the Intel agencies and the Pentagon's involvement in a lot of the scripts and a lot of the movies
00:06:37.560 and a lot of what were kind of shown as a form of entertainment, it's really not entertainment.
00:06:43.880 A lot of the times, it's predictive programming.
00:06:46.000 A lot of the times, it's to set certain ideas in your head that could be emotionally exploited and used for larger kind of political sinister purposes.
00:06:56.560 Now, you add that with the advent of artificial intelligence and the ever so progressive kind of technological advancements that are made in our society.
00:07:05.520 The capabilities of gaslighting people, of manipulating people are just increased tenfold.
00:07:12.680 Now, they do it in very kind of subtle ways.
00:07:15.460 They do it in a lot of the ways where for a very long time, you kind of didn't notice.
00:07:20.660 Now it's becoming a little bit more overt, as I think the establishment is becoming a little bit cocky as well.
00:07:26.160 So, but the ways that artificial intelligence could actually change people's minds is absolutely stunning.
00:07:35.440 As just a few years ago, Facebook was doing larger psychological experiments on a lot of unsuspecting users seeing how they could make them feel.
00:07:46.380 They were seeing if they can make them feel happy, if they can make them feel angry, if they can make them feel sad just by what they start showing them in their news feeds.
00:07:54.420 So these were larger experiments that Facebook was running many years ago on people that didn't even know that they were subject to larger scientific experiments when it came to manipulating their emotions.
00:08:07.320 Now, if you can manipulate someone's emotions, you could also inject certain ideas in there.
00:08:11.580 And I think this is a larger fifth generational warfare program that already is happening against the American people and the people of the Western world in very subtle ways where a lot of the elites have realized that, you know, using bullets is costly.
00:08:27.220 It's expensive.
00:08:27.900 There's going to be a lot of people that are not going to be happy with it.
00:08:30.280 But if you use ideas as bullets as a way for individuals to inflict harm to themselves, you have an easy way to kind of subjugate and take out an entire population without even needing to fire a single shot.
00:08:44.140 And I think that's partly what my understanding of modern society is right now.
00:08:52.180 And whether it's overt, whether it's deliberate or whether it's accidental, we could argue that all day.
00:08:58.360 But but it's pretty clear the larger effects of social media are absolutely, extremely detrimental to the future of this country that is being robbed and destroyed of any kind of prosperous future and any hopes of any future that would be beneficial to them or their families or communities.
00:09:15.380 Yeah, very well put yesterday, we had Alan Dos Santos, who some have called the Alex Jones of Brazil.
00:09:23.980 Guy had an enormous following on X.
00:09:27.080 He was a conservative influencer, investigative journalist, very much in the Jones style, a truth teller.
00:09:35.080 He has now been completely banned by the communist regime in Brazil and by the Brazilian Supreme Court in violation of the law.
00:09:44.680 It's a stunning example of how they can just totally cancel you.
00:09:49.780 So he's still on X and you can still read him on X, but that cannot be seen in Brazil.
00:09:55.680 Really, really chilling.
00:09:57.600 Troy, do you have a comment for Luke or a question?
00:10:00.640 Well, yeah, Luke, it seems like YouTube and all these companies, you know, Google specifically, they're shooting themselves in the foot and they're creating a demand for places like Rumble where you can post.
00:10:11.080 So you're kind of in this, you see this from the creator side, like how long until YouTube is kind of irrelevant?
00:10:17.000 I mean, they're making themselves irrelevant, aren't they?
00:10:19.320 That's a very good question.
00:10:20.400 We also had the Brazilian Joe Rogan on our show a couple of weeks ago.
00:10:25.140 Brilliant man that definitely went up against a lot of very big odds and a very big government in Brazil.
00:10:33.920 So definitely shouts out to that individual.
00:10:36.980 Just one kind of notion that I wanted to clear up and I wanted to make people aware that it's not YouTube that this is that that's making a lot of these decisions.
00:10:46.160 It's usually a lot of other kind of institutions and individuals above YouTube.
00:10:52.200 So if you look at the Twitter files that were released by Elon Musk, it highlighted essentially institutions like the FBI that were calling the shots and saying, yeah, you're going to censor this person.
00:11:02.780 Yeah, you're going to you're going to delete this person.
00:11:04.660 This story about the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:11:07.220 No, that's that's a little bit unconvenient to us.
00:11:09.980 And we're going to make you take it down.
00:11:11.640 And most of the big tech social media companies bow down and they're like, yeah, sure, master.
00:11:16.180 Just tell me.
00:11:16.960 Tell me what to do and I'll do it.
00:11:18.840 Because it's it's not advantageous for them to destroy free speech.
00:11:22.520 It's it's not advantageous for YouTube to take down one of their biggest podcasts ever on their entire frickin platform.
00:11:30.100 I mean, you had a conversation between me, Temple, Michael Malice, Joe Rogan and Alex Jones with Ian Crossland all in the same place.
00:11:39.920 That conversation was fascinating.
00:11:41.860 It was brilliant.
00:11:42.820 It was amazing.
00:11:44.620 Why would you take it down?
00:11:46.140 Why would you destroy it when we didn't violate any of your perceived rules that that you, of course, are strictly enforcing?
00:11:54.680 Why would you shoot yourself in the foot?
00:11:57.400 And that's because there's bigger players at hand here.
00:12:00.220 So I think YouTube has a lot of significant infrastructure.
00:12:04.140 They still provide an incredible service as far as uploading videos, hosting videos.
00:12:09.980 It costs a lot of money.
00:12:11.240 There's no way anyone in the free market could even compete against them because of the monopoly that they have on this entire industry that they were able to hijack.
00:12:19.860 And I believe they were able to hijack it because they made a deal with the government.
00:12:23.780 They made a deal saying, you help us out here.
00:12:25.740 We'll help you out later down the line.
00:12:27.860 You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.
00:12:29.840 That's the type of relationship that they have.
00:12:31.780 But it's more kind of usatory.
00:12:34.020 And when it comes to the Biden administration, when it comes to the federal government, when it comes to the intel agencies, they're the ones going to them and saying, destroy one of your best shows.
00:12:43.380 Destroy conversation here.
00:12:45.480 Destroy free speech here, which is absolutely dangerous.
00:12:49.860 Free speech is essential towards a free society.
00:12:52.100 And as I was talking about earlier today on my show, once you get rid of free speech, you get rid of the ability to debate bad ideas, to destroy bad ideas.
00:13:03.660 You destroy any kind of progress civilization and humanity could make by being, of course, central controllers, which these individuals are obsessed with.
00:13:12.240 They are control freaks.
00:13:13.500 They don't want people talking to each other.
00:13:15.620 It's one of the things that they're absolutely afraid of.
00:13:17.900 And this is why independent media is more important than ever.
00:13:20.880 Your support of it, people's support of it is incredibly important.
00:13:25.000 And truly, right now, we're kind of in a make or break moment because there are a lot of other pressures being put on Twitter.
00:13:32.480 There are a lot of pressures being put on Rumble.
00:13:34.400 And right now, there's a big battleground unfolding, and we have to fight with information as best as we can, as peacefully as we can, as a way to get the word out there to empower people to take action and to make sure that that action helps them, their families and communities move forward in a better way rather than a reductive, destructive way with the lack of information.
00:13:57.880 Yeah, it really is quite prophetic, the way Alex Jones calls his network years ago, infowars, because, in fact, we are in an information war.
00:14:08.780 Just think how different the world would be if Elon Musk hadn't had the courage to release the Twitter files, which document that the previous leadership at Twitter was working hand in glove with the government for political purposes to censor certain inconvenient messages.
00:14:26.060 The stuff they released, for example, on Alan dos Passos shows that the government is leaning on WikiLeaks to silence him around the last election in Brazil.
00:14:42.820 Really extraordinary stuff, not to mention, obviously, the full revelation about the censorship of those talking about Hunter Biden's laptop.
00:14:53.200 Folks, we're going to go for a quick commercial break here, and when we come back, I want to ask Luke about MKUltra, something I've written about in several books.
00:15:04.860 I'm not sure everybody quite understands it, but it's a fascinating topic.
00:15:09.740 It's really the CIA's use of mind control programs that have, in some cases, changed the course of history.
00:15:17.740 We'll be right back.
00:15:23.200 Joining me at the news desk now is Rebecca Walzer of walzerwealth.com.
00:15:29.960 She has been a regular guest on my TV show, Brennan House Live, for a long time.
00:15:35.120 She's not just an economics expert, but she's an attorney.
00:15:38.880 Rebecca, you have a large firm.
00:15:41.020 How many people work for your firm?
00:15:42.260 Just about 30, yes.
00:15:43.740 30.
00:15:44.220 Yes.
00:15:44.460 Tell me, how can people prepare for what's coming with the, well, the end of the dollar as we know it?
00:15:49.940 The end of the fiat system as we know it globally.
00:15:52.080 We are moving to hard asset-backed currencies again.
00:15:54.980 Thank the Lord, because fiat is where we get into all the problems.
00:15:58.340 When you have debt-based currency, you have debt-based problems.
00:16:01.720 And the United States, unfortunately, since 2020, has not stopped spinning at pandemic levels.
00:16:06.820 This is systemic, and it is unsustainable, and it is coming to an end, especially with the addition of Saudi Arabia and the UAE to the BRICS nations.
00:16:15.120 This is what controls our petrodollar.
00:16:17.000 This is the threat immediately in 2024.
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00:17:40.360 If you're just tuning in, this is The Stone Zone.
00:17:43.240 I'm your host, Roger Stone.
00:17:44.580 I'm here with Troy Smith from Slingshot.news and Luke Rodkowski from WeChange.
00:17:51.440 Luke, MKUltra, this is something I've written about in several books.
00:17:56.820 I'm convinced, for example, that in the assassination of Robert Kennedy, in which we know definitively that Robert Kennedy was shot at point-blank range from behind,
00:18:11.640 yet Sirhan Sirhan, the man convicted of killing Robert Kennedy, is always in front of him.
00:18:18.600 All of the bullets are accounted for that he shot.
00:18:21.580 None of them hit Robert Kennedy.
00:18:23.940 But the actions of Sirhan Sirhan, the alleged assassin, indicate to me that he was most likely being manipulated by MKUltra.
00:18:35.380 He would write over and over to, Kennedy must die, Kennedy must die, Kennedy must die, and so on.
00:18:41.180 But you've looked into MKUltra.
00:18:44.120 We know that CIA Director Richard Helms, when Richard Nixon was president, as soon as there became a growing interest in the Congress examining the MKUltra program, destroyed all of the records.
00:18:59.860 So the truth is we'll never know about what the government was doing or may even still be doing.
00:19:05.760 But tell us what you've learned about this.
00:19:08.020 Oh, no, they absolutely still are working on these larger projects and definitely not only just developing them,
00:19:16.380 but using a lot of unsuspecting Americans as their kind of guinea pigs here,
00:19:20.760 as these are human experiments that a lot of the times were done on people that weren't agreeing to be guinea pigs here,
00:19:28.560 that weren't agreeing to be tested and to be abused.
00:19:31.680 These were illegal human experiments that were done, allegedly, just between 1953 and 1973.
00:19:39.400 But as we know, with the Central Intelligence Agency that was never held accountable for all the illegal things that they did before,
00:19:46.080 that they probably will be continuing those programs.
00:19:48.680 As this program also has a lot of roots to the 1940s with Nazi scientists that were working in concentration camps doing other human experimentation.
00:19:56.520 That was also tied to, of course, finding out the truth serum.
00:20:00.480 There's other people linking it to Operation Paperclip, saying that a lot of these German scientists were essentially sent into the United States.
00:20:07.600 Some of them were working with the CIA.
00:20:09.120 And this is allegedly the origins of this larger MKUltra plan that was revealed to the American public through the Church Commission hearings.
00:20:18.480 I think absolutely one of the things we need is another Church Commission hearing here inside of the United States,
00:20:24.320 so we could at least find out about what they are doing here specifically.
00:20:28.960 As during MKUltra, a lot of unsuspecting individuals were experimented on and used with trauma-based mind control.
00:20:37.660 This is specifically where you try to induce a lot of terror, a lot of fear.
00:20:44.940 You break up people's kind of individuality.
00:20:49.440 You destroy them.
00:20:50.660 You torture them.
00:20:52.120 A lot of people call this torture-based mind control.
00:20:55.060 And these larger kind of psychological experiments, these larger kind of approaches,
00:21:00.020 broke down an individual, made people have split personalities,
00:21:04.240 and they built up these different split personalities to be different individuals that the intelligence agencies wanted them to be.
00:21:10.920 So these are actual, inhumane experiments that year tax dollars paid for that were literally looking into controlling the human mind.
00:21:20.660 And there's many different ways that the mind already is controlled.
00:21:23.900 And I think the biggest one of which is, of course, the cell phone, is, of course, the social media.
00:21:29.040 This is why, in the previous segment, I brought up about how Facebook, another social media company,
00:21:35.180 also connected to Intel, In-Q-Tel, and all these other agency-connected larger organizations,
00:21:44.720 were also doing larger kind of psychological experiments, especially when it came to manipulating people's emotions.
00:21:49.880 Because I do believe MKUltra was a real, legitimate program that there's a lot of factual evidence behind.
00:21:57.900 There's a lot of individuals coming out and saying that this is exactly what happened here.
00:22:01.440 There's a lot of strange circumstances that a lot of people link to this specific program.
00:22:05.920 But to think that this program was just one and done, to think that it's over, is a naive point of view,
00:22:12.480 as the intelligence agencies, again, weren't held accountable for these larger aggressive actions against the American people.
00:22:20.580 And I think they have mastered it.
00:22:22.360 I think they're utilizing it.
00:22:23.720 And I think the way that the Intel agencies have such a close relationship with big tech social media companies,
00:22:29.380 I'll bet a large portion of my money that they're probably conducting these experiments right now
00:22:35.200 and utilizing them as a form to gain more power and control for themselves with this kind of mass hypnosis,
00:22:43.060 with this larger kind of mass mind control that they are utilizing against the American people,
00:22:49.120 weaponizing it, and using it for their own personal benefit.
00:22:52.380 Now, a lot of people listening to this would just say,
00:22:54.360 oh, this is just crazy conspiracy theories.
00:22:55.920 It's not.
00:22:56.820 This is all well-documented.
00:22:58.540 This is all something that they were caught doing and something that they probably already are still doing to this day.
00:23:06.860 So, Luke, I was really interested in this bullet point from your biography.
00:23:13.000 You invaded Epstein's island.
00:23:15.300 Tell us what that was like.
00:23:17.200 So just looking into a lot of the stuff that we weren't able to look at throughout my entire career,
00:23:22.740 Epstein was one of the biggest stories out there that the corporate media was covering up for,
00:23:27.600 was promoting, if you remember, VH1 was talking about how awesome Jeffrey Epstein was
00:23:34.720 when independent media was heavily criticizing him.
00:23:37.720 Independent media was calling out what was a larger trafficking underground organization
00:23:43.640 that was taking advantage of small children and doing horrible things to them.
00:23:49.020 The corporate media was literally propping this individual up.
00:23:52.180 We were talking about Jeffrey Epstein for a very long time,
00:23:54.920 as well as all the other predators in our mainline society that are protected by a lot of the elites within it.
00:24:02.620 And ever since Jeffrey Epstein passed away,
00:24:06.040 I always had a lot of questions about what really happened to this individual
00:24:10.040 that obviously was also connected to these larger intel agencies
00:24:13.900 and also was a man that had a lot of compromise on a lot of very powerful individuals.
00:24:18.640 There was an independent journalist that was anonymous that was flying drones over Epstein's island
00:24:24.660 after Jeffrey Epstein allegedly passed away.
00:24:27.140 And there was a video clip that came out that showed a man that looked almost exactly like Jeffrey Epstein
00:24:32.780 on that island after he allegedly passed away.
00:24:36.440 And after seeing that, I automatically came to the conclusion,
00:24:39.740 I have to go to that island.
00:24:40.940 I have to investigate this myself.
00:24:42.520 I have to find out if he's still alive, if he's still there on Jeffrey Epstein's island.
00:24:47.820 And then me and my friend, we got a boat.
00:24:49.800 We chartered a boat.
00:24:51.060 And then we went to the island and we started videotaping and seeing what we could find.
00:24:56.460 And the island was huge.
00:24:58.900 We found a lot of different stuff.
00:25:01.340 You could watch the video.
00:25:02.140 It's the first video that pops up when you go to youtube.com forward slash we are change.
00:25:06.160 But, Roger, just like you know, there's a lot of really bad, sinister people that were involved with the Epstein saga.
00:25:14.640 Lots of different accusations flying left and right with a lot of prominent individuals.
00:25:19.780 And it's absolutely crazy to understand just how many people are involved in this larger kind of inner circle group
00:25:28.720 when it comes to Epstein.
00:25:30.900 I don't know if you know anyone who's been there, but it seems like almost someone, almost everyone in Washington, D.C., almost does.
00:25:40.520 You know, it's interesting.
00:25:41.800 In 2015, when I wrote my book, The Clinton's War on Women, the longest chapter in the book is an expose of Jeffrey Epstein.
00:25:50.260 I'm actually the first American author to write extensively about Epstein.
00:25:55.040 I reported on his little black book and who was in it.
00:25:58.440 I reported on the FAA manifests for the Lolita Express, which not only shows you who went to Epstein's Island,
00:26:07.660 but also who else utilized Epstein's plane to fly around the world and meet with other pedophiles.
00:26:14.040 Now I've got some lunatic documentary filmmaker whose real name is Eduardo posting online that I visited Epstein's Island,
00:26:25.300 that I was seen by a driver there.
00:26:28.360 I was wearing a bull mask.
00:26:30.520 You could tell it was stoned from the Nixon tattoo on his back.
00:26:36.020 And I was molesting a 15-year-old.
00:26:38.380 This is defamatory.
00:26:39.880 It's 100 percent false.
00:26:41.540 It's defamatory.
00:26:43.380 And unfortunately, I'm going to have to bring a legal action.
00:26:46.360 I mean, look, I understand politics, but this is crossing a line.
00:26:50.880 I exposed Jeffrey Epstein.
00:26:52.540 By the way, I credited the great work of Nick Bryan, who is the investigative reporter who really is the first reporter,
00:27:00.540 writing then for Gawker in these freelance pieces to expose Epstein.
00:27:05.880 But the effort to cover for him, particularly here in Florida, where the Palm Beach City police handed over more than enough evidence to charge Jeffrey Epstein with child sex trafficking and child rape.
00:27:21.620 But they let him off with one count of solicitation.
00:27:26.440 Then when the police chief complained that he was getting a slap on the wrist, they revised that to solicitation of a minor, not even scratching the surface of the actual crimes.
00:27:38.240 The important thing to remember here is that after Epstein is convicted in Florida, after he's allowed to serve his sentence, not in a state penitentiary like every other sexual sex crime, predator crime or criminal,
00:27:53.060 He is allowed to fill out his sentence, to serve his sentence in the air-conditioned Palm Beach County Jail, where he basically has his own wing.
00:28:02.800 They're bringing in his gourmet meals.
00:28:05.300 He only has to be there from 10 o'clock at night until 6 in the morning during the day while he's serving his sentence.
00:28:11.600 He can go out and do what he wants.
00:28:13.460 The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office essentially acts like his personal security guard, ferrying him around during the day.
00:28:21.320 And all of this was covered up by the Justice Department under George Bush.
00:28:27.520 So when the police chief figured that the state's attorney in Palm Beach must be in the tank because he was giving Epstein this slap on the wrist, he goes to the U.S. attorney in Miami.
00:28:40.020 His name is Acosta.
00:28:41.680 Acosta conducts his own investigation, whereupon he rubber stamps the Florida charges, and then he seals the entire case.
00:28:50.880 So if the Palm Beach County Post newspaper had not gone to court, to this day, we would not know the truth about Jeffrey Epstein.
00:28:59.140 Folks, we're going to go to a quick commercial break, and then when we come back, we will continue with our guest, Luke Rudkowski.
00:29:07.240 We'll be right back.
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00:30:12.420 Is there any regrets that you have in life?
00:30:23.720 I should sit here and say, yeah, I got a lot of, yeah, I got a lot of regrets.
00:30:28.340 But when I look back on my life and I understand the lives that were lost, I mean, I'm sitting here with them.
00:30:39.200 And I can tell my story.
00:30:40.720 Former National Security Advisor, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, pleaded guilty today for lying to the FBI.
00:30:47.100 He was one of the most respected generals in the military.
00:30:49.380 He was, by definition, the most dangerous possible person for Donald Trump to hire.
00:30:55.100 Only brilliant military career serving 33 years.
00:30:58.580 Why was he being so abusive?
00:30:59.860 Mike Flynn pulled the truth and faced life in prison.
00:31:10.720 Welcome back, folks.
00:31:28.800 If you're just tuning in, I'm Roger Stone, and this is The Stone Zone.
00:31:33.080 I'm here with investigative journalist and truth teller, Luke Rutkowski.
00:31:39.000 And joining me in The Zone, of course, is my regular co-host, Troy Smith of Slingshot.News.
00:31:47.200 All right, Luke, we were talking about the Epstein saga.
00:31:52.500 It is pretty shocking.
00:31:56.420 If you have not seen General Flynn's new movie, Luke, I really, really strongly recommend it to you.
00:32:03.200 You can get it at FlynnMovie.com.
00:32:06.960 It's really moving.
00:32:08.520 It's gut-wrenching because it tells you not just what happened to him, which is outrageous enough,
00:32:14.240 but it tells you why he was targeted.
00:32:17.780 It is one of the most effective pieces of moviemaking, of filmmaking that I have seen in decades.
00:32:24.780 I really, really recommend it to you.
00:32:27.600 Yeah, I haven't seen it yet, but Michael Flynn, especially what he did during the Obama administration in Syria,
00:32:34.200 I think prevented a larger war in that particular region.
00:32:38.640 And I think the deep state establishment was really mad that he exposed a lot of kind of financing of the Islamists and Wahhabists in that specific region.
00:32:49.440 And truly, truly was someone that they went after very viciously afterwards in order to punish him for whistleblowing
00:32:57.840 and speaking out what he saw during the Obama administration, which was very grave and which was very aggressive action against a lot of people in this world.
00:33:09.640 You know, it is absolutely true after I met and got to know General Flynn that I told him that in 2024,
00:33:18.520 if for some reason Donald Trump decided not to run or if for some legal reason he was prevented from running,
00:33:27.840 that I thought Flynn himself was greatly preferable to all these other rhinos like Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis and others.
00:33:36.820 That has become bastardized by some on the Internet saying Stone and Flynn plotted to undermine Trump,
00:33:44.320 which is absurd, both of us strongly supporting Trump.
00:33:49.460 But yeah, it's called a contingency plan.
00:33:52.120 It's called Plan B, having a plan for someone who's not a globalist.
00:33:57.660 Luke, your analysis is exactly right.
00:33:59.760 If you watch the movie, Flynn's unwillingness to testify falsely before Congress
00:34:05.320 to bring his testimony into alignment with everybody else in the intelligence community
00:34:11.140 about the real dangers of Islamic terrorism is the reason he got targeted.
00:34:16.560 That really is the reason.
00:34:18.800 So I remember I remember talking about that story when the corporate media was trying to attack him
00:34:24.440 and trying to excuse him as some kind of loon.
00:34:27.260 But he came out and I think he literally played a role in stopping that larger war from expanding.
00:34:34.280 If you remember, Barack Obama sent a lot of significant military hardware down towards the coast of Syria
00:34:42.480 and he was ready to bomb it.
00:34:44.700 He was ready to turn it into another Libya.
00:34:47.500 And truly, it was a lot of people that came there that saw what was happening on the ground,
00:34:51.600 spoke out against it that led to a lot of protests that I think stopped that war from expanding
00:34:57.740 and saved the country of Syria from becoming another Libya.
00:35:00.700 OK, Troy, do you have a comment or a question for Luke?
00:35:08.180 Yeah, Luke, you know, you obviously dive pretty deep into this.
00:35:12.060 And I wanted to ask you, you know, you've seen the Obama administration.
00:35:15.160 Now you see the Biden administration.
00:35:16.900 And I wanted to ask, are you seeing, is it the same exact playbook that they're using in both administrations?
00:35:23.120 Is it the exact same divide and conquer thing that they're doing across the world?
00:35:27.460 Or are there differences in the way it's being conducted now versus when Obama was president?
00:35:32.040 Well, I think the Biden administration is like a it's like a hybrid between the Obama and Bush administration,
00:35:39.120 because during the Bush administration, they played off allegedly a stupid president that was first was a hick.
00:35:47.320 And he was from Texas and he wasn't smart. And I think that's what they're trying to do now.
00:35:52.000 It's a kind of a convenient ploy to push through a lot of their very aggressive measures that they could just say,
00:35:57.800 oh, the guy didn't know what was going on. And he was able to get all these things done that perfectly benefit benefited the establishment class.
00:36:06.320 And then a lot of people will kind of excuse it as, oh, he's just an old guy or he's just kind of a dumb guy.
00:36:11.220 When we look at the Obama administration, it's clear Barack Obama never left Washington, D.C. for a reason.
00:36:17.760 He has a lot of connections, not only to the entertainment industry, but a lot of connections to the current administration.
00:36:23.780 And it's pretty clear, as he kind of prophesized himself, he wishes he was in a position where he could have a third term,
00:36:30.020 but didn't have to be the front guy for it.
00:36:32.680 And I think the Obamas truly do have a lot of significant power in Washington, D.C.
00:36:39.580 There definitely is kind of an internal struggle between them and the Clintons.
00:36:44.160 And it's pretty clear that Obama is a man of the intel agencies.
00:36:49.800 There's a lot of weird connections with him and the intel agencies and his family.
00:36:53.440 But when he was president of the United States, they extensively got to do whatever they wanted to do.
00:36:59.300 They're doing the same thing now.
00:37:01.440 But the propaganda isn't as sleek as it was under his administration.
00:37:05.800 It's more used as a kind of George W. Bush kind of presidency representation of, oh, that guy just doesn't know what he's doing.
00:37:14.200 It's all a big coincidence.
00:37:15.500 It's all a big accident.
00:37:17.020 And I think that's what a lot of the larger aggressive moves against the American people are being used as a way to kind of justify them.
00:37:24.780 When in reality, they are organized, they are campaigns that have been in the work for a very long time.
00:37:30.940 There are a lot of studies.
00:37:33.340 There are a lot of research groups that are pouring a lot of resources into finding out more ways in order to kind of screw over the American people.
00:37:42.740 And they're doing it in record numbers under his administration, one of the most unpopular administrations in recent history.
00:37:49.880 Looking at it in retrospect, I would have to conclude that, in fact, George Bush, while more likable than his father and certainly more affable than his father, really wasn't running much.
00:38:06.340 I think the influence of Dick Cheney, who had a superior knowledge of the federal government and how it operated, was really, really disproportionate.
00:38:16.320 The choice by George W. Bush of Dick Cheney for vice president is a big FU to his father.
00:38:27.460 You see, George Bush became, George H.W. Bush became CIA director under Gerald Ford only on the condition, could he win Senate confirmation, that he would agree not to run for president or vice president in 1976.
00:38:43.960 And that was all arranged by Don Rumsfeld, who, of course, was Dick Cheney's mentor.
00:38:51.820 Cheney began as Rumsfeld's assistant, and then he eclipsed him.
00:38:56.000 So George H.W. Bush despises Dick Cheney.
00:39:00.040 This was George W. Bush's way of telling his father that he was his own man.
00:39:06.340 Of course, it was Dick Cheney, the war criminal, who lied us into the war in Iraq.
00:39:11.720 He is the progenitor of the notion that Saddam Hussein has yellow cake and they have weapons of mass destruction.
00:39:20.420 They essentially forced Colin Powell into lying, into destroying his reputation and his career.
00:39:27.780 He knows when he is telling the United Nations that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction, that there's no confirmation of that.
00:39:36.880 He later says that he regretted it.
00:39:39.420 But, no, Dr. Evil, the guy who I really think is responsible for the worst excesses of the George W. Bush administration, is Dick Cheney.
00:39:49.460 Now, fast forward, because Liz Cheney is anti-Trump, suddenly this war criminal who was hated by the mainstream media, Dick Cheney, now we elevate him to the position of hero, when, in fact, he's just a profiteering warmonger.
00:40:07.700 No, absolutely. As John Bolton even recently proclaimed that he's going to be riding in Dick Cheney for this upcoming presidential election, showing you that this kind of this gang from the Project for a New American Century did wield a lot of power.
00:40:25.040 And I agree with your assessment. Bush was kind of the dumb scapegoat here, as there was a lot of other individuals behind him, like Cheney, like Rumsfeld, that were calling the shots here.
00:40:34.820 I remember during their administration, I partook in confronting these individuals.
00:40:39.780 And truly, the stuff that they were working on was absolutely sinister.
00:40:42.980 And if you look at the larger effects of that administration, it not only destroyed this economy leading to the 2008 housing market crash, but it gutted the Constitution, it gutted privacy, it gutted the First Amendment.
00:40:56.780 And it also laid the foundational groundwork to a lot of the gain-of-function work that Dr. Fauci was allowed to work on without being punished under the Patriot Act that, of course, they had conveniently written and prepared right before that major galvanizing event in New York City in 2001.
00:41:16.520 So when you look at that kind of administration, for me, when you look at the larger effects internationally, geopolitically, if you look at why Iran is as prominent as it is right now, it's predominantly because of the Bush administration.
00:41:30.760 You look at the larger war that the deep state is waging against the Republicans, you look at how the FBI is infiltrating parent-teacher school conferences, you look at how they're going after anti-abortion activists.
00:41:43.500 All of that groundwork was laid down by the Bush administration that has extensively led to this current situation that we are in right now.
00:41:54.340 And to me, the damage that they have done to this country is irreversible and something that, of course, should be noted and brought up.
00:42:01.300 As, of course, that's when I got my kind of political start in 2003, 2004, 2005 is when I met Alex Jones.
00:42:10.620 And we've worked throughout the years also on a lot of very interesting kind of projects as well.
00:42:16.100 But to me, the damage that they've done definitely can't be understated.
00:42:20.980 All right.
00:42:21.880 We are almost out of time.
00:42:24.000 Let's put up the graphic where people can follow our guest today, Luke Rutkowski.
00:42:28.620 He is a courageous, independent journalist and a truth teller.
00:42:34.560 Luke, I want to thank you very much for coming on the show.
00:42:37.580 I had a great time on your show last week.
00:42:40.240 So thanks for being with us today.
00:42:42.760 Always enlightening, my friend.
00:42:44.520 Always enlightening.
00:42:45.700 Yeah, it was incredible.
00:42:47.020 It was a great show having you on.
00:42:49.040 People could definitely check it out right now on rumble.com.
00:42:51.720 We are changed.
00:42:52.580 And then we're also doing a nature hike this Saturday in Miami, Florida for members of LukeUnfiltered.com.
00:42:59.440 So definitely go check that out.
00:43:00.680 Thank you so much for having me on.
00:43:02.120 I still have so many questions I would love to ask you.
00:43:04.960 There's still so much of information you have that is so important for people to connect the dots on.
00:43:10.620 So let's definitely talk more and let's definitely continue doing these shows because there's so much knowledge.
00:43:18.900 There's so much information that you especially have that is so critically important.
00:43:23.140 And I thank you for all the work you do as well.
00:43:26.080 All right.
00:43:26.380 We will definitely get you back on, Luke.
00:43:28.220 And I'm happy to do your show again.
00:43:30.040 Like I said, it went after two hours.
00:43:32.840 I could easily go on another hour.
00:43:34.520 Had a great time.
00:43:35.480 Also had a great steak with you afterwards.
00:43:37.960 So I thank you for that.
00:43:38.920 Yeah, absolutely.
00:43:40.680 The steak's here.
00:43:43.000 The place we went to is one of a kind.
00:43:44.720 And it was an awesome meal.
00:43:46.020 Awesome conversation.
00:43:47.060 Anytime you want to come back on, you're more than welcome to come back on.
00:43:50.280 Yeah, we're conservatives.
00:43:51.440 We eat red meat, folks.
00:43:52.780 We're not vegans.
00:43:53.740 And there is no tofu in our diets.
00:43:55.860 Okay.
00:43:56.520 Thank you to our guest, Luke Rutkowski.
00:43:59.500 Folks, we're going to go to a quick commercial break here.
00:44:02.160 I would ask you to do three things.
00:44:04.320 One, please subscribe at StoneZone.com.
00:44:07.560 It's absolutely free.
00:44:08.900 But there you can get the, not only you can see this show, you can hear my WABC radio show.
00:44:15.700 You can also see my print journalism pieces.
00:44:18.420 I have a new piece up on John Brennan, the deep state demagogue, who's right back to his old tricks of smearing Donald Trump.
00:44:26.340 A lot of things about former CIA director John Brennan you may not know.
00:44:31.080 I also urge you to subscribe to Slingshot.News, which are my co-host, Troy Smith, is at the helm of.
00:44:41.500 We're going to take a quick commercial break.
00:44:43.460 And when we come back, we're going to break down some politics.
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00:46:49.440 Welcome back, folks.
00:47:07.160 If you're just tuning in, I'm Roger Stone.
00:47:09.540 And yes, this is The Stone Zone.
00:47:11.980 I'm here with my co-host, Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.news.
00:47:18.560 And we found the most popular part of the program is when we just break down yesterday's political news and some of the better videos that we pull off the net.
00:47:28.540 So, Troy, take it away.
00:47:30.460 Well, Roger, you know, before we get into that today, we actually have an exclusive here on The Stone Zone.
00:47:36.320 We actually have an exclusive photo of one of the jurors in the New York criminal trial for president.
00:47:42.160 So, let's put that up on the screen so Roger can see that.
00:47:44.820 This is Hilarito Clintonas.
00:47:48.100 She's been selected for the jury there for New York.
00:47:51.900 Just wanted to get your comments on that, Roger.
00:47:54.120 You know, I must tell you, Troy, I now see the extent to which my trial was the template, was the dry run for what they're now doing to Trump.
00:48:06.260 I was gagged by the judge just as Trump was gagged by the judge.
00:48:11.760 My jury included rabid partisans who had attacked Trump on social media.
00:48:18.640 There were, of course, no Republicans on my jury, no military veterans on my jury, no Roman Catholics on my jury, no evangelical Christians on my jury.
00:48:31.440 There were people who worked in the Obama FBI and others who worked in the Obama FBI Justice Department.
00:48:39.560 And then I now see the judge in the New York case limiting Donald Trump's defenses.
00:48:44.860 So, the judge has ordered that he can't raise anything regarding the fact that the Southern District of New York's U.S. attorney reviewed these same charges, elected not to bring a case.
00:48:56.000 The Federal Election Commission reviewed these claims, elected to not bring a complaint because there was no violation of law.
00:49:05.880 So, it's deja vu, man.
00:49:08.200 It is, you know, it's deja vu all over again, as they say.
00:49:14.860 They are subjecting Trump to exactly the same tactics that were used against me, which is why I conclude that a fair trial with this judge, a judge who donated to Joe Biden's presidential campaign and whose daughter is an adult and a Democratic political operative who's made millions of dollars out of this case,
00:49:37.480 out of using this case as part of her fundraising pitch for her clients, it's really hard to believe.
00:49:45.540 Go ahead.
00:49:45.900 Well, it is, Roger, and it's hard to get a fair, you know, in New York, a fair trial in general for President Trump is really just about impossible.
00:49:53.160 And I think that's, you know, the deep state knows that.
00:49:55.240 The people that are ultimately pulling the strings on this case know that.
00:49:58.580 And yet, they're portraying President Trump, you know, in a very negative light.
00:50:02.660 And we have video from the Capitol.
00:50:04.720 I want to get your thoughts on this, Roger, because it was really just a crazy statement.
00:50:08.440 Democrat Representative Eric Swalwell from the Capitol yesterday calling President Trump a terrorist.
00:50:14.280 He called him a legal terrorist.
00:50:16.520 I just want to get your thoughts on this comment.
00:50:18.020 Really insane stuff from the Capitol.
00:50:19.580 He is a legal terrorist who has 40 years of experience, probably more than any person in America, with lawsuits and tying up the system and seeking to delay, delay, delay.
00:50:33.880 And so it's coming, though, Nicole.
00:50:35.500 There's a tapestry of accountability that he's seen in the civil and criminal realms right now.
00:50:42.200 It's not coming as fast as it should, but it's coming.
00:50:45.160 Look, this is the same Eric Swalwell, whose office was infiltrated by a Chinese communist spy who was penetrating a Chinese spy who then penetrated his office.
00:51:00.880 But Nancy Pelosi allowed him to continue to serve on the House Intelligence Committee, where he had access to classified information.
00:51:08.420 You can always tell when Eric Swalwell is lying, his lips are moving.
00:51:13.040 Let's move on.
00:51:13.720 Well, yeah, exactly.
00:51:16.220 And I thought that, you know, just the rhetoric around this is pretty amazing.
00:51:19.520 And especially when you contrast it with the rhetoric around Biden, because he was, you know, really having a really tough showing yesterday.
00:51:26.400 I think the Biden campaign, Roger, saw what Trump did in the New York bodega, and they wanted to copy it.
00:51:32.060 So they decided to have Biden walk into a Pennsylvania gas station yesterday.
00:51:36.240 And it really didn't go as I think they planned it would go.
00:51:39.400 It definitely didn't go as well as Trump's bodega visit.
00:51:41.840 So let's roll the video of President Biden yesterday at a gas station in Pennsylvania attempting to copy President Trump and getting Roger's thoughts on that afterwards.
00:51:50.080 Nice.
00:51:50.720 Back.
00:51:53.340 Back.
00:51:55.800 Back, back.
00:51:59.840 Back.
00:52:02.920 Back.
00:52:04.800 Back.
00:52:09.360 Back.
00:52:09.620 Back.
00:52:10.480 Back.
00:52:11.020 Back.
00:52:11.720 Back.
00:52:12.840 Back right now.
00:52:13.480 Back.
00:52:13.840 Back.
00:52:14.180 Back.
00:52:14.680 Back.
00:52:15.720 Back.
00:52:16.340 Back.
00:52:16.640 You need to go back, please.
00:52:46.640 I'm sorry, Mayor, I'm so sorry.
00:53:02.640 I'm trying to come.
00:53:06.640 Yeah, I'm sorry.
00:53:12.640 I'm sorry, Mayor, I'm sorry.
00:53:19.640 President Biden, President Biden, on the new steel tariffs,
00:53:21.640 are you certainly going to confirm your new relationship with Xi Jinping?
00:53:26.640 Sir, the steel tariffs, are you going to confirm that will confirm your relationship with Xi Jinping?
00:53:32.640 No.
00:53:34.640 Why?
00:53:35.640 Don't jump.
00:53:38.640 I see some press, just press.
00:53:47.640 I see some pressingutan over, I see other people coming along.
00:53:56.640 I see some press, just press.
00:53:59.640 wow that doesn't look like it worked as planned it's amazing when donald trump does these
00:54:08.340 impromptu stops at a pizza place or at a or at a chick-fil-a you can see the public reaction
00:54:15.840 people love this man across the the the strata that chick-fil-a stop was amazing to watch
00:54:23.080 poor joe biden there is nobody home it's so clear that there he doesn't know where he is he doesn't
00:54:29.060 know what he's doing he makes very little sense i think his continuing mental deterioration is
00:54:36.100 obvious to everyone uh except for maybe the people at msnbc and cnn all right let's continue
00:54:43.280 well uh roger and you're exactly right and every time biden steps out into the public things seem
00:54:49.440 to get a little worse for him uh and he made headlines a couple days ago uh in pittsburgh
00:54:54.800 talking about his grandfather a man named ambrose finnegan claiming that he was mauled
00:54:59.800 by cannibals and that his body was never recovered there's some conflicting reports on that people
00:55:05.540 saying that his grandfather wasn't mauled by cannibals that his plane was actually lost at sea
00:55:10.260 let's roll the strange clip of biden campaigning on his grandfather being eaten by cannibals in
00:55:15.580 pittsburgh just bizarre ambrose finnegan when they called him uncle bosie he uh he was shot down he
00:55:23.420 was the army air corps before there was an air force before single-engine planes reconnaissance flights
00:55:29.600 over new guinea he had volunteered because someone couldn't make it got shot down in an area where
00:55:37.120 there were a lot of cannibals at the time they never recovered his body but the government went back
00:55:46.000 when i went down there and they checked and found parts of the plane and the like and what i was
00:55:52.380 thinking about when i was standing there was when trump refused to go up to the memorial for veterans
00:56:00.960 again biden continues to to repeat this entire false narrative uh john kelly the white house chief
00:56:19.400 of staff who was canned by donald trump has continued without any corroboration or any proof
00:56:26.040 to insist that trump referred to american veterans who had died as suckers and losers it's the wrap-up
00:56:33.660 smear right it's the wrap-up smear that nancy pelosi brags about uh you make something up you get it you
00:56:41.600 get it reported in the mainstream media then you point to that story saying you see it's true because
00:56:47.480 yahoo.news wrote about it therefore it must be true it's a technique it's a tactic that they use
00:56:54.660 again and again uh biden keeps keeps telling us from time to time uh that his son died in in the
00:57:04.660 service uh in afghanistan when in fact his son died of a brain tumor uh in the united states i mean i don't
00:57:12.200 think at this point biden's told so many tall tales about himself and his background watched a video of
00:57:18.980 him the other day saying he had three graduate degrees uh and he graduated the top of his class
00:57:24.160 other places he said he taught constitutional law uh none of these things are true uh but i i think at
00:57:31.520 this point he's told these lies so many times that he can no longer distinguish what's true and what's
00:57:38.920 false i think he's completely and totally out to lunch uh and if i were running his campaign which i
00:57:45.680 obviously am not i'd be very concerned about propping him up which is going to be very very
00:57:51.580 difficult the idea of a trump biden debate is just delicious it's just delicious well and on top of
00:58:01.240 that roger we've seen the biden campaign kind of distance themselves from the debate and kareen
00:58:05.220 jean-pierre from the white house podium has said multiple times you know she doesn't know whether
00:58:09.380 biden and trump will actually debate and i think there's going to be a conscious effort
00:58:13.280 by the biden campaign to steer trump away from the debates and i wanted to get your thoughts on
00:58:17.920 this real quickly roger before we get out of here um you know the biden campaign and his
00:58:23.020 administration are at odds with israel and the fact is that the administration wants to pivot away
00:58:28.380 from israel while the campaign seems to want to embrace israel and i wanted to ask you about that
00:58:33.880 dynamic because his actions are clearly anti-israel do you think that that israeli lobby is still going
00:58:38.900 to stick with biden and the democrats going into this election with his administration openly
00:58:43.620 attacking israel really after these attacks you know in every way here biden has a gigantic problem
00:58:51.140 based on the fact that he's financing both sides of the war that we have unfrozen at least 126
00:58:58.640 billion dollars in assets for the iran regime which they're clearly using to restart and expedite
00:59:06.740 their nuclear weapons development program as well as subsidizing the terrorism of hamas and hezbollah
00:59:13.720 uh at the same time biden is trying to restrain israel uh as we broke down with jack basobic here the other
00:59:21.440 day this entire iranian attack against israel appears to be kabuki theater uh done for the optics but
00:59:29.560 nobody actually gets killed in in israel uh it is uh it is extraordinarily uh uh it's extraordinarily
00:59:37.540 odd he has a problem democratic voters are traditionally uh pardon me jewish voters are
00:59:43.900 traditionally democratic muslim voters overwhelmingly supported him in the last election he's trying to
00:59:49.340 have it both ways i don't think it will work all right we have to leave it there folks on behalf of
00:59:55.500 myself and my co-host troy smith from slingshot.news we thank you for joining us today in the stone zone
01:00:02.180 and we look forward to seeing you tomorrow until then god bless you and godspeed a man who's gone
01:00:09.080 through hell but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him not everybody
01:00:17.320 but people love him and respect him roger stone where's roger stone
01:00:21.380 you