The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - August 20, 2024


Kamala Runs From Biden Record as Protestors Attack


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57 minutes

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158.98517

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9,147

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531

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary

In this epic battle in which we engage with a little bit of levity, we are engaged with an amazing video from Ramble Rants. Featuring legendary strategist and political icon and pundit, Raldsy Stone, who has served as a senior campaign aide to three U.S. presidents, a best-selling author, and a long-time friend and advisor of President Donald J. Trump, joins us to talk about the breaking political developments, including the Democratic National Convention, the return of Sen. Hillary Clinton to Chicago, and the massive protests that erupted in the streets of the city after her appearance on the first night of the two-day event in which she delivered a blistering attack on President Donald Trump and his failed presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton's attempt to become the first woman to run for president with 34 felony convictions, and why she will never be elected again, we have a clip of a clip from a clip featuring a collection of speakers that spoke last night including joe Biden, Joe Biden, and Joanne DeBannon, including a compilation of all of the former president s former campaign speakers that were invited to the podium last night in Chicago, including Joe Biden and John Boozman, and we continue to continue to focus on the obsession with former president Donald Trump's obsession with his own obsession with the former vice president, Donald Trump, and his obsession with being re-elected, we take a look at some of the craziness that took place on the streets last night, and get to the details of what happened on the night and the chaos that ensued, and what happened the night after Hillary Clinton got kicked off the stage in Chicago on the evening of her speech, and more, we get into what happened and what will happen next, and much more! Join us in the Stone Zone, join us in The Stone Zone. . Stay tuned for a Stone Zone episode, featuring legendary political icon, political icon & pundit Raldy Stone, and pop culture icon, Roger Stone, as we discuss the latest in politics, and how to make sense of it all, and its impact on the political landscape, and whether or not, as the future of the political and cultural landscape, we'll be back in 2020, and who's going to be the next in 2020? -The Stone Zone! -Jonestown, Jonestown Jon Stone, Jon Stone - Jon Stone and Jon Stone's new book, and more!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 stone zone with legendary republican strategist and political icon and pundit roger stone stone
00:00:07.200 has served as a senior campaign aide to three republican presidents he is a new york times
00:00:11.840 best-selling author and a long-time friend and advisor of president donald trump as an outspoken
00:00:17.280 libertarian stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts spoken at countless venues and
00:00:22.320 lectured before the prestigious oxford political union and the cambridge union society due to his
00:00:28.000 four plus decades in the political and cultural arena stone has become a pop culture icon and now
00:00:33.680 here's your host roger stone
00:00:40.880 welcome i'm roger stone and yes you are back in the stone zone you've got to start each day uh in this
00:00:48.560 epic battle in which we are engaged with a little bit of levity here is an amazing video from rumble
00:00:56.000 rants at the dilly meme team
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00:01:51.760 i correct myself that's ramble rants part of the dynamic dilly meme team anyway i wanted to
00:02:16.800 start with that but uh we have a democrat national convention going on mark vargas the editor and
00:02:22.880 publisher of the illinois review who's on the scene in chicago joins us later in the show but to talk
00:02:29.280 about the breaking political developments i want to welcome my co-host troy smith the editor in chief
00:02:36.080 over at slingshot dot news troy welcome back in to the stone zone roger as always it's an honor to be
00:02:42.800 here and uh the the dnc got kicked off last night and i can't tell you how many people were texting
00:02:47.840 me sending me photos uh videos of some of the strange stuff that was going on at that and and i
00:02:53.760 thought of you roger i'll be honest when i saw hillary clinton speaking she was one of the very first
00:02:58.960 speakers of the convention and we have a couple clips of that of really walking out basking in the
00:03:05.200 democrat uh politicians that are there in the audience so i want to play this clip um and then we're
00:03:10.800 getting to some of the protests you know some really crazy stuff that happened uh but let's
00:03:15.200 roll a hillary clinton speech last night and get roger's thoughts on the return of hillary clinton
00:03:27.760 donald trump fell asleep at his own trial and when he woke up he made his own kind of history the first
00:03:36.480 person to run for president with 34 felony convictions
00:03:48.640 kamala locked up murderers and drug traffickers she will never rest in defense of our freedom and
00:03:58.480 safety donald trump fell asleep at his own trial and when he woke up he made his own kind of history
00:04:08.080 the first person to run for president with 34 felony convictions
00:04:20.000 you know if donald trump accomplished nothing else
00:04:23.280 he kept that foul-mouthed short-tempered entitled kleptocrat out of the white house now once trump
00:04:31.600 was elected we now know it was more than enough evidence of corruption and yes indeed treason to lock
00:04:39.840 hillary clinton up and trump could have insisted on her prosecution but he wanted to heal the country
00:04:46.480 and he didn't do it now of course that the shoe is on the other foot they have attempted to criminalize
00:04:52.960 our current justice system uh and they have convicted trump of a crime in new york that isn't
00:04:59.680 a crime at all in fact federal pardon me state prosecutors couldn't define the underlying crime so they
00:05:06.960 criminalized uh they they made a felony paper transactions business transactions that at worst
00:05:15.200 would have been a business transactions infraction that would be settled with a fine and they catapult
00:05:21.920 that into be being a criminal felony without the underlying criminal act ever defined by the
00:05:29.760 prosecutors really a travesty in front of a biased judge but hillary clinton will still not be happy in
00:05:37.840 fact we both know she's not happy about the rise of kamala harris
00:05:41.840 she's uh probably happy that joe is out of the way but she'll never really be happy because you
00:05:47.680 know what troy she will never be president well and roger you know last night it was interesting
00:05:54.400 uh to see these guests go up there because the democrats can routinely say oh and i saw pete
00:05:59.360 budajas he said this word for word on mainstream news coverage he said donald trump and jd vance run in
00:06:06.320 politics because it's about them they he says oh jd vance and donald trump make politics about
00:06:12.640 themselves it's not about the people and they asked him what are you going to see at the dnc
00:06:17.200 and he said well we're going to focus on the american people we have a clip i want to show of a collection
00:06:23.600 of all of the speakers that spoke last night including joe biden which we have a clip of that
00:06:27.920 we're going to get into in a second here joe biden being wheeled out and quickly uh taken away from
00:06:32.720 the stage uh we have a clip of all of them mentioning donald trump it was like almost we
00:06:38.080 were at the republican convention roger because all any of these speakers talked about was donald
00:06:42.880 trump let's roll the compilation and get roger's thoughts on the dnc's obsession with the former
00:06:48.640 president while they continue to say oh we're running our own campaign we care about americans
00:06:53.040 when in actuality all they care about uh is stopping donald trump from making america great again
00:06:58.640 let's roll that clip donald trump donald trump donald trump donald trump donald trump donald trump
00:07:13.040 donald trump donald trump donald trump donald trump donald trump donald trump donald trump
00:07:19.680 donald trump donald trump donald trump trump trump trump who in the hell does he think he is who does he think he is
00:07:25.240 does seem like Trump derangement syndrome. In the meantime, Troy, the Trump campaign has mounted
00:07:31.800 what I think may be their most effective ad. They're running it during programming, during
00:07:36.420 the DNC, and also in the swing states. So as Kamala Harris tries to distance herself from Joe
00:07:42.900 Biden, and we didn't know whether Joe left on vacation immediately after his speech, which
00:07:48.120 the Democrats conveniently pushed out of primetime, Joe didn't speak. The sitting
00:07:53.600 president of the United States didn't speak till well after midnight on the East Coast. They want
00:07:59.140 him to disappear as quickly as possible. Now, I don't know whether he left out of peak because
00:08:03.780 he's still angry about being forced out, or whether they ordered him to leave. Either way,
00:08:09.500 it served their purpose. Donald Trump, on the other hand, and his campaign, I think very effective
00:08:14.600 with this spot, pointing out that, well, Kamala is not going to be able to walk away from the Biden
00:08:20.040 Harris record quite so easily. Let's roll it.
00:08:22.820 I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message.
00:08:25.580 The alarming spike in inflation soaring to its highest level in nearly 40 years.
00:08:30.220 That is called Bidenomics.
00:08:32.240 Americans are paying the price for rising inflation from the grocery store to transportation.
00:08:37.800 Gas prices rose again today, reaching a new all-time high.
00:08:41.720 Bidenomics is working.
00:08:43.420 Under Bidenomics, incomes have fallen three straight years.
00:08:46.540 We're still dealing with inflation, and we've got super high interest rates at the same time,
00:08:52.880 and that's putting American households in a hole.
00:08:56.040 Two-thirds of Americans are just struggling to make ends meet.
00:08:59.120 That is called Bidenomics, and we are very proud of Bidenomics.
00:09:03.080 So we got fewer jobs created in the month, revisions lower to the two previous months,
00:09:08.760 and the unemployment rate went up.
00:09:10.380 Bidenomics is working.
00:09:11.780 You may have seen this. U.S. stock market tumbling today, sparking fears of a recession in the near future.
00:09:16.000 And this comes after Friday's jobs report showing a spike in unemployment.
00:09:19.380 That is called Bidenomics, and Bidenomics is working.
00:09:24.920 Stunning ad cutting right to the most important issue.
00:09:29.840 Every survey, every poll shows the economy and people's anxiety about the economic future
00:09:35.280 to be the number one issue in the country.
00:09:37.560 It's fueled by record inflation, record gasoline prices, a lack of affordable housing,
00:09:45.380 and the fact that the buying power of the dollar is just being strictly eroded.
00:09:50.940 We're in this period now where I think it's essential that the Trump campaign seek to define Kamala Harris
00:09:58.020 as she really is, a Bernie Sanders, San Francisco progressive, way out radical.
00:10:03.920 This is someone who wanted to decriminalize illegal border crossings.
00:10:11.720 This is someone who wanted to defund the police.
00:10:18.060 This is someone who wants U.S. taxpayers to pay for the health care costs of the 20-plus million illegals
00:10:26.820 who are in the country.
00:10:27.780 This is someone who wanted to ban private health insurance.
00:10:31.460 This is someone who now talks about using wage and price controls to basically try to manipulate the economy.
00:10:40.380 Look, Richard Nixon tried that.
00:10:42.180 It was an unmitigated disaster.
00:10:44.900 It is among Nixon's greatest and biggest mistakes, as I've said in the two books that I have written on Nixon.
00:10:52.020 But she openly talks about seizing the assets of private companies.
00:10:56.560 Sounds more like Cuba or Venezuela.
00:10:58.740 People need to see very soon who the real Kamala Harris is.
00:11:03.760 It's not the Kamala Harris who came up with the brilliant idea of ending the tax on tips.
00:11:09.140 It's not the Kamala Harris who woke up and said, I'm going to secure the border.
00:11:13.440 I'm going to crack down and we're going to hire hundreds of new border guards.
00:11:17.420 That's not the real Kamala Harris.
00:11:19.320 Well, and, Roger, that's, I think, becoming the theme of this Kamala Harris campaign is the false portrayals of both her and her running mate, Tim Walls,
00:11:28.560 who continues to be, I think, an embarrassment to the campaign.
00:11:32.100 And as we're going forward, Roger, that pick is looking worse.
00:11:36.000 And we're seeing the stolen valor thing come back again and again and again.
00:11:40.220 And I think that's going to continue to hurt him.
00:11:42.240 But I wanted to ask you particularly about this attack that we've seen from the Democrats.
00:11:46.840 Recently, President Trump was talking about Medal of Honor recipients.
00:11:50.960 And he was talking about a woman who received a Medal of Honor from the president,
00:11:55.960 but it wasn't the presidential Medal of Honor where you technically, you know, you get it because you're in battle.
00:12:01.580 So basically there's Medals of Honor and they're different.
00:12:04.220 And he was he was saying to the woman that got this award, oh, you know, you got this award and you didn't have to have your legs blown off,
00:12:11.780 like not joking about it, but saying like, oh, you got this award where other people really have to sacrifice.
00:12:16.340 It shows how much you've done.
00:12:18.360 And the Democrats are taking that now and turning that into Trump is insulting Medal of Honor recipients and the medal and the military in general.
00:12:27.560 Now, to me, this looks like an extension of the suckers and losers hoax that was put out there by the former chief of staff, John Kelly.
00:12:36.320 I wanted to ask you about this latest attack.
00:12:38.960 They're desperate to get the military attention off of Tim Walz, aren't they?
00:12:43.420 It appears that way.
00:12:44.860 First of all, what's amazing is that the mainstream media continues to say there's no evidence of stolen valor,
00:12:51.500 no evidence that he lied about a combat service.
00:12:54.760 There's no evidence that he lied about where he was, claiming he was in Afghanistan during battle when he wasn't,
00:13:03.480 that he saw his comrades being unloaded, their bodies being unloaded.
00:13:07.880 All those things have been documented.
00:13:10.020 They've been documented by people of men he served with.
00:13:13.660 But the media continues to pretend none of that's true.
00:13:16.280 It's all true.
00:13:17.200 He's guilty of stolen valor.
00:13:19.420 So this is exactly what it is.
00:13:21.480 General John Kelly was fired by Donald Trump as his chief of staff.
00:13:27.080 There's his motive.
00:13:28.480 Now, when he was a chief of staff, he was extraordinarily disloyal.
00:13:32.660 He somehow had the idea that his job was to slow down, derail, or stop Donald Trump's America First agenda.
00:13:39.640 And he bragged openly about it.
00:13:42.420 He was also a control freak, which is never going to work in Trump role, because Donald Trump runs his presidency.
00:13:49.320 So he was ignominiously fired.
00:13:51.340 Only after he was fired did he come up with this tall tale that Trump, while visiting a French cemetery, said that the men buried there, the Americans buried there, were suckers and losers.
00:14:02.780 Now, there were 19 other people present the entire time.
00:14:05.800 Not a single one of them remembers Trump saying this.
00:14:08.460 That's because he never said it.
00:14:10.640 John Kelly made it up.
00:14:12.160 We're supposed to believe General Kelly because he has the title of general.
00:14:15.360 I think he's lying.
00:14:16.980 So now, although I think the president's comments were a little hard to understand, does anyone think that Donald Trump doesn't love our military?
00:14:25.400 Does anyone think that our military doesn't love Donald Trump?
00:14:29.500 I mean, the people who are serving know who supports them.
00:14:32.840 It wasn't Donald Trump who got 13 Americans killed in Afghanistan because he wouldn't use the drone technology to keep the Taliban pinned down to cover our retreat.
00:14:46.080 Biden's instinct to withdraw men from the Middle East was not incorrect.
00:14:50.540 Back during the Trump presidency, tens of thousands of American soldiers were brought home from the Middle East.
00:14:56.800 But that's without the countries that they were fighting in collapsing into the hands of the enemy upon their withdrawal.
00:15:05.780 Well, and, Roger, you know, it's very truthful.
00:15:08.440 You know, the military is under attack with President Biden.
00:15:11.300 And you see conflicts arise around the world while President Biden has been in office.
00:15:15.840 And people have to understand that Kamala Harris is going to continue those wars.
00:15:21.520 It's going to be a continuation of what the situation in Israel.
00:15:25.540 President Trump has sworn that he will stop that war, that he will stop the war in Ukraine.
00:15:30.820 And you can best believe that under Kamala Harris, there's not going to be any stopping of any of these wars anytime soon.
00:15:36.100 Because the people that fund her campaign, the people that fund the Democrat politics, they benefit and they profit and their friends profit hugely off of war.
00:15:45.400 And they want to get into a situation where they're in right now where we have multi fronts where they can continue to ship weapons from these military industrial complex companies that will generate trillions of dollars for these people.
00:15:59.040 And they celebrate this as some kind of win, Roger.
00:16:02.040 It's a win for America to send our troops over.
00:16:04.660 And for anybody in the military, I think it's this simple.
00:16:07.440 The Democrats don't have a problem sending you to die for whatever cause it may be, for Israel, for Ukraine, whatever.
00:16:14.220 With President Donald Trump, he showed time and time throughout his presidency that he values human life and he especially valued American lives.
00:16:22.780 And he took steps against nations who actively threaten American lives to ensure that that didn't happen.
00:16:28.360 You don't see that under the Kamala Harris Biden presidency and you will not see it if Kamala Harris wins this election, Roger.
00:16:34.980 It's just it's so clear, I think, for anybody in the military.
00:16:38.220 And the fact that they try to take this tack, I think it shows a little bit of maybe kind of political naivete when it comes to the Kamala Harris people.
00:16:47.000 We don't know who they are.
00:16:48.420 We don't know exactly, you know, these people that are surrounding the campaign.
00:16:53.320 There's another thing I actually wanted to get your thoughts on, Roger, that's pretty interesting here.
00:16:57.620 And that is Nicole Shanahan, the vice president.
00:17:01.700 You know, we're now fully in the Trump Harris, Trump versus Harris election cycle.
00:17:07.000 And, you know, kind of left to the side that nobody's paying attention to anymore is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:17:13.020 His running mate is now claiming in interviews, seemingly undermining his campaign actively, saying that he's considering dropping out and they don't really know what they're going to do.
00:17:23.280 I want to play this for you because I know you've been a critic of Shanahan from the very beginning.
00:17:27.620 And this looks like active undermining for me.
00:17:29.880 I don't believe it because it didn't come from Mr. Kennedy himself.
00:17:32.540 Let's roll that clip and get Roger's thoughts on what's going on with RFK's campaign.
00:17:37.100 What my gut tells me right now is that we just have to keep being honest.
00:17:41.440 I got to just keep being honest.
00:17:44.000 I got to keep focusing on what matters the most outside of party lines.
00:17:51.680 I need to focus on a vision that goes beyond November.
00:17:59.420 And if that means that we stay in and, you know, there's benefits to staying in.
00:18:06.600 If we get over 5% of the vote, we actually establish ourselves as a party.
00:18:11.700 71% of Americans want a strong third party with a real shot at winning.
00:18:18.880 There's even public funds available if we get over 5% of the vote.
00:18:25.140 So we could get, I think it's like $13.5 million in public funds to keep the party going.
00:18:34.620 And that's, you know, that's worth something.
00:18:37.780 Um, that means that we can position for a real third party, uh, election in 2028 where we don't
00:18:47.380 have to go around and spend tens of millions of dollars on ballot access, which means that
00:18:54.460 we can spend all of that time and money campaigning.
00:18:59.120 Um, so, you know, there's two options that we're looking at.
00:19:06.280 And one is staying in, forming that new party, but we run the risk of a Kamala Harris, Kamala
00:19:12.620 Harris and, and Walt's, uh, presidency because we draw votes from Trump or we draw somehow
00:19:20.060 more votes from Trump or we walk away right now and join forces with, with Donald Trump.
00:19:30.160 And, and, and, you know, we walk away from that and we explain to our base why we're making
00:19:36.320 this decision.
00:19:38.700 Um, not easy.
00:19:42.440 Clearly.
00:19:43.360 Yeah.
00:19:43.860 Not an easy decision.
00:19:46.000 No.
00:19:47.360 Uh, you know, Troy, in all honesty, I think that's what is known as the tease.
00:19:51.380 That's called the tease.
00:19:53.000 How do I get as many views on this video as possible?
00:19:55.520 Um, she spent far more time talking about the, uh, what she saw as the benefits of staying
00:20:01.400 in the race and forming a new party than she did, uh, the dangers of a Kamala Harris, uh,
00:20:07.060 presidency.
00:20:07.880 Uh, and then at the end, there's that throwaway line.
00:20:10.260 Now I already see the internet ablaze with people saying, oh, RFK is thinking about getting
00:20:15.340 out.
00:20:15.640 Well, first of all, he didn't say that she did.
00:20:18.860 Secondarily.
00:20:19.340 Look, he is a, he's a very smart guy.
00:20:21.480 He's a very determined guy.
00:20:22.520 I agree with him on a few issues.
00:20:24.500 I disagree with him on a few other issues.
00:20:26.860 I think he's chosen an impossible course.
00:20:29.660 Uh, I think we have a two party system and that the laws, unfortunately at the state and
00:20:34.560 federal level are written to benefit the two major parties.
00:20:38.500 Uh, look, I briefly joined the libertarian party, so I experienced this firsthand, but
00:20:43.560 I, I would be surprised if RFK got out of this race and threw his support to another
00:20:48.960 candidate.
00:20:49.440 Uh, I don't believe that's going to happen and I think this is going to prove out to
00:20:53.580 be hype indeed.
00:20:55.240 All right.
00:20:55.680 Uh, we're going to bring in our guest now.
00:20:57.920 Uh, I've been anxious to get him with us.
00:21:00.660 Mark Vargas, uh, served his country, uh, and served, uh, the defense department, but in
00:21:05.860 a civilian capacity, spent a lot of time working for peace abroad.
00:21:10.460 Uh, and, uh, he is now the editor and publisher of the Illinois review, which is the largest
00:21:16.740 and most influential conservative alternative news outlet in the middle West.
00:21:21.740 Uh, and he joins us now.
00:21:23.480 He is right there in the windy city, uh, joining us from Chicago and the scene of the Democrat
00:21:30.820 national.
00:21:31.800 So, Mark, it's good to be with you, Roger and Troy.
00:21:37.260 Thank you for joining us.
00:21:40.000 I see you're not in the streets wearing a tie dyed t-shirt.
00:21:43.280 I'm grateful for that.
00:21:46.140 I changed just for you, Roger.
00:21:48.180 All right, Mark, uh, Democrat convention.
00:21:51.860 You've seen them before Chicago, of course, the site of the famous 1968 convention, which
00:21:58.780 seems very similar to this one in many ways, uh, more protesters outside the convention hall
00:22:04.380 than delegates and alternates inside the convention hall.
00:22:08.280 This all seems very carefully and tightly staged, stage managed.
00:22:12.260 In fact, I have seen online, some in the media complaining about their lack of access.
00:22:18.500 Tell us about this.
00:22:20.780 Well, again, Roger, greetings from the people's Republic of Chicago, uh, the host side of what
00:22:26.340 I'm calling the DNC convention, democratic national chaos, because that's what this is.
00:22:31.420 We've talked about that.
00:22:32.340 This convention is going to be nothing but chaos, and it is playing out just as we suspected,
00:22:37.720 you know, Roger, 150 groups nationally formed a single coalition of over a hundred thousand
00:22:44.440 people who plan to march and protest, uh, here in Chicago during the convention.
00:22:49.820 These are anti-Israel protesters.
00:22:51.860 These are anti-American groups.
00:22:53.920 These are pro-communist, pro-socialist groups, pro-Palestinian, pro-Gaza organizations that have
00:23:00.320 all come together, uh, in hopes that their democratic leaders hear their voices.
00:23:07.280 And certainly they did yesterday when hundreds of them stormed the first outer security perimeter
00:23:15.200 and ripped down the first line of gates, uh, and went towards the second line of gates and,
00:23:21.040 and ripped those down as well.
00:23:22.800 And we're assaulting police officers, throwing objects at Chicago police officers, uh, who were
00:23:28.820 standing guard just blocks from the United center where the Chicago bulls and Chicago Blackhawks
00:23:34.000 play.
00:23:34.460 And that is the site of, uh, the convention.
00:23:37.300 But in addition to the chaos that was happening outside and around the city of Chicago, uh,
00:23:43.100 that delayed the start of the actual convention yesterday by nearly a half hour because of the
00:23:48.340 security concerns that they had going out, going on outside.
00:23:51.460 We also learned Roger that the transportation, the logistics were a total nightmare that it was
00:23:57.160 taking an hour and a half, two hours for delegates and visitors to get from their hotels, to get
00:24:02.020 from the McCormick place across town to the United center.
00:24:05.380 Uh, the lines to get into the United center were hours long, uh, and especially including
00:24:12.100 for members of the press who had their own press entrance.
00:24:15.200 Uh, but when groups and delegates arrived, they were told to go in through the press entrance.
00:24:21.460 And so you have people standing for hours outside, uh, trying to get into the convention.
00:24:27.220 Uh, you have people even in the mainstream media that are saying that it was total chaos,
00:24:32.820 completely unorganized.
00:24:34.680 The logistics were not planned very well.
00:24:37.140 And Roger and Troy, this is the same party that's trying to say, elect us for another four
00:24:43.060 years because we're going to get our country back on track after we've ruined it after four
00:24:47.880 prosperous years under, uh, president Donald Trump.
00:24:50.800 And so, uh, it's no surprise, uh, that this really is a week full of chaos.
00:24:58.020 Mark, uh, you make a very good point.
00:25:00.600 Look, a party that can't unite itself cannot unite, uh, the United States.
00:25:05.100 Uh, and, uh, the violence, I guess is quite predictable.
00:25:08.560 This of course is all the result of the Biden Harris administration trying to play both sides
00:25:13.660 of the Middle East.
00:25:14.500 We are funding financing, uh, both sides in that conflict.
00:25:18.920 When you make a conscious decision to unfreeze $190 billion in assets, which allows the Iranians
00:25:26.540 to refuel their nuclear weapons development program and to finance Hamas and Hezbollah
00:25:32.380 and their terrorist attacks on Israel.
00:25:34.200 At the same time we give Israel, I think it's $1.4 billion in aid a year.
00:25:39.880 Uh, we're on both sides of the conflict.
00:25:41.960 Uh, and the radical element that's taken over the, the Democrat party, uh, is so powerful
00:25:49.080 that the president and the vice president don't dare go to a joint session of Congress to greet
00:25:55.440 the prime minister of Israel.
00:25:56.760 They basically snub him for fear of the rabble in the streets, screaming to, uh, to, uh, destroy
00:26:04.200 Israel, uh, and to, uh, and to, uh, support Palestine.
00:26:08.620 It is, uh, uh, it is the greatest single dilemma in the Democrat party today.
00:26:13.020 It's one of the other reasons why I think they're going to lose.
00:26:16.140 Interestingly, if you saw this yesterday, uh, Barack Obama's chief strategist, a Chicagoan
00:26:21.580 David Axelrod says publicly that the Democrat party's being way too euphoric about Kamala
00:26:28.040 Harris's current standing in polls.
00:26:31.140 He continued to say that Trump still has a very good chance of winning.
00:26:35.160 And in fact, he would win if the election were held today.
00:26:38.260 It's not me.
00:26:38.900 This is David Axelrod.
00:26:41.260 Also, Charlie McClain, who is the founder of Kamala's main super PAC, Future Forward, uh,
00:26:47.800 gave a, uh, very rare off the record interview yesterday in which he said that the actual poll
00:26:54.160 numbers, the real poll numbers are much less rosy than what you're seeing in public.
00:26:58.700 So, uh, this idea of her, her surge, uh, and Donald Trump's dip is not, uh, does not
00:27:06.760 comport with reality.
00:27:08.700 Uh, but it is also a misnomer to think this election is in 76 days because early voting starts
00:27:15.920 in September, uh, in Pennsylvania, I think it's the 17th, uh, and it begins shortly thereafter
00:27:21.640 to a number of other states.
00:27:22.860 So at this point, campaign wise, uh, every single day is precious time.
00:27:28.380 I do think Kamala benefits from this, uh, contracted campaign, uh, season because she needs as little
00:27:36.360 focus on her real record as possible.
00:27:39.140 Troy, your thoughts?
00:27:41.020 Well, you know, it's an interesting situation there in, uh, Chicago, Roger, because we're getting
00:27:45.240 the full spectrum, uh, and I wanted to ask Mark about this, you know, uh, it seems it,
00:27:50.100 it, you know, Chicago seems like you call it, you know, the Democrat Republic.
00:27:54.460 It's just totally like it's, it's out of control.
00:27:57.400 And we see so many murders there.
00:27:58.980 We see so much Democrat carnage on the streets already.
00:28:01.760 Uh, the idea that these, you know, politicians are having this conference in the city that
00:28:08.200 they've destroyed, uh, there's a certain pompous nature that, and I was going to ask Mark,
00:28:12.600 you know, what's the sentiment on the street about them having this in Chicago?
00:28:16.020 Uh, there's gotta be a lot of anger and resentment towards these people because they are who have
00:28:21.020 made Chicago what it is today.
00:28:24.360 Well, unlike the Republican national convention in Milwaukee, which is just about an hour and
00:28:29.080 a half North of here of Chicago, where you had small businesses celebrating the fact that
00:28:34.480 the RNC was going to be there because of the influx of money that was going to go in,
00:28:38.240 go into the economy.
00:28:39.360 You're not seeing that here.
00:28:40.940 In fact, you're seeing quite the opposite.
00:28:42.420 You're seeing businesses board up.
00:28:44.580 You're seeing business owners leave the city for the week.
00:28:47.320 You're seeing residents leave the city.
00:28:48.840 You're seeing tourists who are not part of the DNC staying away from the city of Chicago
00:28:53.420 this week.
00:28:54.140 It's laughable to have a convention in a city that has been completely destroyed by Democratic
00:28:59.080 leadership, uh, for decades.
00:29:01.360 You think about, we have a 2000 police officer shortage.
00:29:04.560 If you call 9-1-1 over 220,000 high priority 9-1-1 calls went unanswered in the city of
00:29:11.740 Chicago last year, because we have a police officer shortage.
00:29:14.740 You're the coroner.
00:29:16.400 The medical examiner's office will get there faster, uh, than the police officers, because
00:29:20.940 for the last four years, the police officers have been the lip belittled.
00:29:24.840 Uh, criminals have been turned into victims.
00:29:26.940 Victims have been turned into criminals.
00:29:28.240 Uh, the police officers' hands are literally and figuratively tied behind their backs, so
00:29:33.800 they cannot do their jobs.
00:29:35.460 They're leaving in mass.
00:29:37.200 At the same time, you've got the Chicago City Council basically in a war over support of
00:29:41.980 Israel, despite the fact that 20 minutes north of the city of Chicago is the second, the second
00:29:47.500 largest Holocaust museum in the United States.
00:29:50.660 And Chicago's city council can't even agree, uh, on a resolution in support of Israel.
00:29:56.740 It's why these anti-American, pro-communist, pro-socialist, anti-Israel, uh, democratic protesters
00:30:02.960 feel so comfortable here in Chicago during the Democratic National Convention.
00:30:07.860 And last night, when Joe Biden gave his midnight speech, he validated them during his speech by
00:30:13.700 saying that they make a good point as well.
00:30:16.500 And that's going to be celebrated by these very violent, vicious, and dangerous organizations
00:30:20.640 that hate our country, hate our, hate Israel, and hate everything that we stand for.
00:30:24.300 You know, we had a very good discussion on this subject, uh, on my 77 WABC radio show, uh,
00:30:31.960 Mike Crispy, who was a Trump delegate from New Jersey to the recent Republican National
00:30:37.260 Convention, also a member of the board of the Italian American Civil Rights League, uh, put
00:30:43.420 out a statement critical of Tim Walz.
00:30:45.520 Tim Walz, first of all, when violent radicals threatened to tear down, first desecrate, then
00:30:51.380 tear down and destroy the statue of Christopher Columbus outside the state capitol.
00:30:56.840 He refused to defend the statue.
00:30:59.040 Uh, it was destroyed by radicals.
00:31:02.040 Then, uh, he basically said he justified their reasons.
00:31:05.840 He didn't, he didn't defend their, their violent act.
00:31:09.000 He said it should have been removed through the, through the, uh, appeals process, through the
00:31:13.040 legislative process.
00:31:14.380 When he disrespected Italian American culture, he completely smears Columbus, who never owned
00:31:19.880 slaves.
00:31:20.880 Sorry.
00:31:21.880 Uh, and, uh, I, I think that Crispy's right that this is, uh, it's, it's anti, uh, it's
00:31:27.320 anti-Italian American.
00:31:29.000 Uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, the same kind of thing you see today in Chicago.
00:31:33.240 Chicago was a city that worked.
00:31:36.260 Chicago under, uh, Mayor Richard J. Daley was an incredibly safe city.
00:31:41.460 I'm sure it had bad neighborhoods, but it was a city that for decades has worked.
00:31:47.620 I think Mark knows this, but maybe he doesn't understand that everybody knows, doesn't know
00:31:52.400 it.
00:31:52.560 Uh, the lawlessness, the crime that you see in Chicago today is not different, unfortunately,
00:31:57.860 than it was three weeks ago.
00:31:59.900 Chicago's is, is, uh, in the Chicago suburbs are experiencing a crime epidemic, uh, that
00:32:06.760 is, uh, that is a result of the failed policies.
00:32:09.640 The mayor of Chicago says the person to blame for the deterioration of the city is Richard
00:32:17.480 Nixon.
00:32:19.760 What?
00:32:20.320 I mean, the Richard Nixon who founded the small business administration, or pardon me,
00:32:26.380 the business of minority business enterprise, the Richard Nixon who desegregated the public
00:32:31.500 schools, the Richard Nixon who, uh, forced, who founded the votes for the 1958 Civil Rights
00:32:37.580 Act, the Richard Nixon who increased ninefold funding for black colleges.
00:32:43.160 But the mayor of Chicago blames all of the problems today in the city of Chicago on Richard
00:32:48.480 Dixon beyond belief.
00:32:51.640 Roger, it is unbelievable.
00:32:53.160 And he doesn't even like to take the hard questions.
00:32:55.820 He's just like Kamala Harris, doesn't want to talk to the press, runs away from the press.
00:32:59.660 And when he does answer a question, he gets agitated and said, you're only asking me about
00:33:03.380 high crime in Chicago because I'm a black man.
00:33:05.980 No, we're asking these questions because you're the mayor of Chicago.
00:33:09.820 It's outrageous that they continue to blame Donald Trump.
00:33:12.500 They blame, Mayor Johnson has also blamed a MAGA extremist.
00:33:17.120 But Roger, going back to your earlier point about Christopher Columbus statue, we, we're
00:33:20.220 facing that right here in Chicago.
00:33:21.280 Under Mayor Lori Lightfoot, she removed the Christopher Columbus statue, much to the
00:33:26.320 anger of a very prominent and active Italian American community here in Chicago.
00:33:31.660 That statue has still not been returned.
00:33:34.300 It's the site.
00:33:35.040 It's a crime scene.
00:33:35.960 It's where police officers, Chicago police officers were violently injured, many life
00:33:40.640 threatening injuries.
00:33:42.060 A police officer lost his eye.
00:33:44.140 They were throwing frozen water bottles at police officers, lots of blood, stitches.
00:33:49.480 It was a horrific scene, all caused by these agitators and protesters and a violent mob.
00:33:55.020 But who got blamed?
00:33:56.120 The Chicago police.
00:33:57.920 And Mayor Johnson has still not pledged whether or not he's going to return the Christopher Columbus
00:34:02.500 statue.
00:34:03.000 It really is a dark stain on our city's history, the way that the police officers were treated
00:34:08.000 that day.
00:34:08.920 There hasn't been anything.
00:34:10.420 No one has been held accountable since then.
00:34:13.440 And we shouldn't be surprised.
00:34:14.720 This is the same Democratic Party that wants to remove statues of Abraham Lincoln.
00:34:19.020 And so none of this makes sense anymore.
00:34:22.400 And it's why Democrats like Mayor Richard Daley is upset with the direction of the Democratic
00:34:28.380 Party.
00:34:28.740 I've heard from multiple people that have had conversations with former Chicago Mayor Daley
00:34:33.240 that he is just angry about what's happening to Chicago with the crime, with bending towards
00:34:41.260 the socialist wing of the Democratic Party.
00:34:45.160 His party respected the police.
00:34:46.900 His party respected law and order.
00:34:48.720 His party wanted to help working middle class Americans.
00:34:52.000 His party loved America, loved Israel.
00:34:55.720 That's certainly not today's Democratic Party.
00:34:58.360 And we're seeing that all play out in real time just down the road about a mile from here
00:35:02.480 at the United Center for the DNC.
00:35:05.240 Mark, I had heard reports that Mayor Johnson actually had to be hospitalized on numerous occasions
00:35:11.300 for, I don't know if it was anxiety or stress.
00:35:15.800 He has some kind of disorder.
00:35:17.600 What's that about?
00:35:18.460 Well, it is true.
00:35:21.520 Multiple press reporting that he has been taken to the hospital over a dozen times for
00:35:28.040 panic attacks.
00:35:29.060 The source of those panic attacks, there's been rumors that he's upset that he's worried
00:35:34.580 that he's upset a violent Venezuelan cartel over the migrant crisis.
00:35:39.900 He's upset about his personal life is in shambles.
00:35:43.360 He's not in control.
00:35:44.580 The Chicago Teachers Union is in control.
00:35:46.740 There's evidence of that.
00:35:48.600 When memos come out of the fifth floor of the mayor's office at City Hall, these memos
00:35:53.040 are first approved by Chicago Teacher Union officials.
00:35:56.760 So they are really running the mayor's office.
00:35:59.520 Brandon Johnson is just a figurehead.
00:36:02.320 But under his leadership in just a very short period of time, I mean, the city of Chicago
00:36:07.960 has gone from bad to worse.
00:36:09.380 And the joke now here is that people never thought they'd say they missed Lori Lightfoot
00:36:15.580 because he really has turned this city from a once great city to now, as President Trump
00:36:22.380 said, I think yesterday or early today on his Truth Social, turned this once beautiful city
00:36:27.060 into a war zone.
00:36:28.160 You know, it's interesting, Mark.
00:36:31.000 My earlier comments when I made a reference to Mayor Richard J.
00:36:34.500 Daley, I, of course, referring to Dick Daley, who was mayor of Chicago in the 60s, 1968
00:36:40.820 specifically, where you were discussing Mayor Richard J.
00:36:44.260 Daley, also known as Richie Daley, who by today's standards was a very successful and moderate
00:36:49.320 Democrat mayor.
00:36:50.280 He has to be appalled at what his party has done to this city.
00:36:56.900 Troy, what else do we have here in the video?
00:36:59.600 Because I want to get Mark's thoughts on some of that stuff as well.
00:37:03.560 Well, Roger, we have another video of some of the protests that are going on at the DNC
00:37:09.000 and some of these rabid people.
00:37:10.820 And I want to ask Mark, you know, what he thinks that these people are going to end up
00:37:13.960 doing, because it doesn't seem to me that they are very intent on, you know, supporting
00:37:17.880 the Democratic Party in this coming up election.
00:37:20.380 And in states like Michigan and states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, these people could
00:37:25.040 end up deciding the election.
00:37:26.580 So let's roll that clip of some of the more rabid protests yesterday and get Mark's opinion
00:37:31.600 on what's going on here.
00:37:32.640 What's happening?
00:37:33.160 Killing women in Gaza!
00:37:35.340 Stop killing women in Gaza!
00:37:37.260 Stop killing women in Gaza!
00:37:40.200 Stop killing women in Gaza!
00:37:45.180 Stop killing women in Gaza!
00:37:47.100 Stop killing women in Gaza!
00:37:52.920 Stop killing women in Gaza!
00:37:54.440 Stop killing women in Gaza!
00:37:58.540 Stop killing women in Gaza!
00:38:06.960 Stop killing women in Gaza!
00:38:07.540 Mark, what do you think?
00:38:20.800 It's a tragedy. This is a Shakespearean tragedy, what's happening in once beautiful city of
00:38:26.420 Chicago. You know, there's video of people walking around Chicago protesting wearing
00:38:32.900 t-shirts that say F Israel. It's shocking. It's upsetting. And again, when you have Joe Biden
00:38:40.020 validating their violence during his speech by saying that they're making a good, they make a
00:38:46.180 good point too, I think is very dangerous for our country. They don't love our country. They hate
00:38:51.700 our country. They despise our country. They despise everything that we stand for. And unfortunately,
00:38:57.480 here in Chicago, in these democratic controlled cities, and certainly under Tim Waltz's tenure as
00:39:04.560 governor of Minnesota, what we've seen is that nobody's held accountable. And this only emboldens
00:39:10.480 them to take it to the next level. This is why stores are closing in Chicago, because you could
00:39:15.240 take up to $900 in merchandise or products and get the equivalent of a parking ticket for it. There are
00:39:22.420 no police around to stop them. And so you've got businesses shutting down. Nobody's held accountable.
00:39:27.040 And as a result of this, you're allowed to have 150,000 protesters from all over the country,
00:39:34.160 from groups that hate America to assemble here and create havoc and destroy once beautiful monuments,
00:39:43.420 destroy beautiful parks and rip down gates. Today's Democratic Party allows this. The Democratic Party of
00:39:51.660 Richard Daly's would not allow this. The Democratic Party of Truman and John F. Kennedy would not allow
00:39:57.340 this. Again, it's just sad to see where we're at. And lastly, Roger and Troy, what's remarkable is that
00:40:04.140 the Democrats talk about lifting up America here in the first day of the convention, lifting up average
00:40:09.360 hardworking middle-class Americans. But what they're doing here on the separately behind the scenes is
00:40:15.500 they're prioritizing illegal migrants, the 25,000 that have come here into the city of Chicago,
00:40:21.100 who are getting better housing conditions than residents living in the south and west sides of
00:40:25.780 Chicago. They're staying in luxury hotels. They're getting money. They're wearing brand new shoes.
00:40:29.920 They're texting on their iPhones. These are migrants. While their own residents, particularly black
00:40:36.660 residents, live in poverty with no hope, no educational opportunities, no jobs. And so it's
00:40:43.520 remarkable that on one end they can talk about how they're lifting up Americans, but on the other end,
00:40:47.780 in reality, they are destroying lives. Good point. Here's another story I really want to spend a little
00:40:56.280 bit of time on. Congressman Clay Higgins of Louisiana, a former police officer, has been investigating
00:41:03.340 the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt on President Donald Trump. The number of people on
00:41:08.880 social media who insist that this never really happened, that it was a psyop, that no one really
00:41:13.360 ever shot at Trump, therefore they are insulting the memory of Corey Comparatori, the brave firefighter
00:41:21.000 who gave his life, shielding his wife and daughter and took one in the head. It is disgraceful,
00:41:27.700 yet there's a whole subculture of assassination deniers. Some of them claim that I orchestrated
00:41:34.140 this. That's particularly outrageous. But we learn more and more that it's troubling. Among other
00:41:40.360 things, Congressman Higgins has determined that the body of Thomas Matthew Crooks was cremated without
00:41:47.720 notice to anyone, including evidently his family or anyone in the federal government. Secondarily,
00:41:54.860 now we have seen surface, at least a physical image of Crooks talking on a phone. So who is
00:42:03.000 he talking to? If this is not a conspiracy, who is Crooks talking to shortly before the shooting?
00:42:10.520 We've also now seen a video of him walking through the crowd. Let's see if we can roll that.
00:42:16.520 Extraordinarily strange. I think we've also seen video of him carrying a rifle in the open that my
00:42:35.740 friend Jack Posobiec posted. Again, the most shocking thing I've heard in the last 24 hours is
00:42:42.520 that the FBI, the Secret Service, the state police, and the local police were all on different radio
00:42:49.140 frequencies, and therefore they couldn't all hear each other. So while it is true that local police
00:42:54.240 officers saw a gunman on the roof and knew he was armed, we're not certain that that was ever heard
00:43:00.640 by the federal authorities. This entire thing continues to create more questions than answers,
00:43:08.880 but make no mistake about it. The Democrats and those who control the mainstream media
00:43:13.560 and much of the internet landscape, they want this story out of the news. They want this story out of
00:43:20.980 the news. One of the things that supporters of Donald Trump, like myself and many others,
00:43:27.220 do every day is pray for the safety of Donald Trump so that there is not yet another attempt on
00:43:33.660 his life. I think those who oppose him, not all of them, obviously, but some of them recognize that
00:43:39.340 he is an existential threat, that they fear a time that they are held responsible for their
00:43:47.440 own crimes. They keep calling it revenge. No, it's not about revenge. It's about equal protection under
00:43:52.700 the law. It's about the end of a two-tiered justice system in which some people are persecuted
00:43:57.880 when they actually have committed no crimes, while others commit substantial material crimes, including
00:44:04.900 treason or bribery, in the case of Hunter and Joe and Jim Biden, and are not held accountable.
00:44:15.160 To me, this is extraordinary that we still don't have any answers as to what took place in Butler,
00:44:24.360 Pennsylvania. And again, I pray that it doesn't happen again. Mark, your thoughts.
00:44:31.520 Well, what's markable is here for the Democrat DNC convention, what they've done, Roger, around some
00:44:36.680 of the higher-end hotels is they've shut off access to all the rooftops of the apartment buildings.
00:44:42.240 They shut off access to all the rooftop pools in the area. So local residents aren't even allowed to
00:44:48.060 go on the rooftops. They're not even allowed to go up to their pools because they wanted to lock that
00:44:53.040 down. So it's okay. It's completely appropriate to lock down the rooftops and restrict access
00:44:58.820 for the Democratic National Convention. Yet this shooter can walk around completely noticed,
00:45:05.960 not unnoticed, completely noticed on this rooftop at a Trump rally, just 150 yards from where the
00:45:11.560 president was standing at the podium. And we have our Secret Service and local law enforcement agencies all
00:45:17.000 singing from a different sheet of music and on different channels so they can't even communicate.
00:45:23.680 None of this makes sense other than to say it appears almost deliberate, all of the things when
00:45:29.360 you add everything up. It just doesn't make that sort of sense. It's remarkable. But you could
00:45:36.120 certainly see a double standard here in terms of security for a DNC convention versus security for a Trump
00:45:43.900 rally. Very good point, folks. I do want to point out that yesterday's show here on the Stone Zone
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00:47:41.820 we return to our guest, Mark Vargas, who is the editor, publisher of the Illinois Review, one of
00:47:50.340 the most influential conservative news outlets in the Midwest, and of course, Troy Smith. If you don't
00:47:56.960 subscribe over at slingshot.news, well, you should subscribe to both of these great publications.
00:48:04.000 Gentlemen, Troy, what else do you have on tap for us? Well, Roger, you know, we got a little bit left,
00:48:09.180 and a couple more clips I want to play for you guys because there is a lot going on here. One of
00:48:14.320 the worst members of Congress that I know of is a guy that used to, you know, I used to live in
00:48:20.300 Maryland, and he's a congressman from that state. His name is Jamie Raskin, and he froze last night.
00:48:25.400 Now, he kind of went off script, and see, here's exactly what happens. Jamie Raskin, he's good on
00:48:30.540 script, but when the teleprompter cocked out there for a second, he completely lost his place. I want to
00:48:36.440 play that video and get your guys' reaction on one of the worst members of Congress. This is what
00:48:41.440 happens when they go off script. He's no Donald Trump. Jamie Raskin couldn't have a rally where
00:48:46.060 he talked for an hour and 41 minutes like President Trump did in Montana just a few weeks ago. He
00:48:51.620 couldn't talk if there's not literally scripted words being put in front of him. So let's roll that
00:48:56.600 clip and get your guys' thoughts on this kind of funny moment from last night.
00:48:59.500 Someone should have told Donald Trump that the president's job under Article 2 of the Constitution.
00:49:12.820 Wow. Jamie Raskin, a man who said repeatedly that his January 6th committee would prove my
00:49:18.740 involvement in the illegal actions of January 6th when they proved nothing whatsoever. In fact,
00:49:23.400 they suburned perjury for some witnesses. They used manipulated videos and they proved nothing of
00:49:30.340 the kind. He is, of course, the son of Marcus Raskin, a famous radical, many thought a communist,
00:49:37.980 in Franklin Delano Roosevelt's circle. Right now, Jamie Raskin is engaged in a struggle with Dan Goldman
00:49:44.920 to see who can be the more wildly radical, irresponsible, congenital liar in the Congress.
00:49:51.100 And I think Raskin is still ahead in that competition.
00:49:56.160 Well, and we have one more clip that will play and we want to get, Mark, your reaction to this
00:50:01.200 as well because there's so much going on on the campaign trail. We have J.D. Vance, a short clip
00:50:07.660 of him talking about a possible VP debate. So we're going to play this clip. It's Vance talking about
00:50:14.480 a possible VP debate with Tim Walts. I want to get, Roger, your thoughts and Mark's thoughts as well
00:50:18.920 as will this VP debate between Walts and Vance have an impact on the 2024 election? Usually,
00:50:26.060 the VP debate is kind of a throwaway, but people have speculated that this year it might actually
00:50:30.980 have an effect. Let's roll that clip and get Roger's thoughts and then we'll go to you, Mark, as well.
00:50:34.980 Kit Maher, CNN. I know Donald Trump has been reported.
00:50:41.800 Don't, guys, she's one of the good CNN reporters. There's like two of them. She's okay.
00:50:46.820 Back to my question. So Donald Trump has enlisted the help of Tulsi Gabbard to prep for his debate.
00:50:53.900 I'd like to know how you were prepping for a debate with Tim Walts, who has described himself
00:50:57.900 as a bad debater. Who's helping you and how are you prepping?
00:51:01.460 Well, I found a good friend from back home who embellishes and lies a lot and I'm having
00:51:05.520 him stand in for Tim Walts. That's what we're doing during our debate.
00:51:08.380 But look, what, what, what, all kidding aside, what we're going to do is we're going to focus
00:51:15.400 a lot on policy, right? What I, what I, the way that I'm trying to prepare is to try to make sure
00:51:20.060 that we're, we're prepared to answer the American people's questions on how we're going to make
00:51:23.880 their lives better, how we're going to make their community safer, how we're going to bring back
00:51:27.660 prosperity and low prices to the American economy. And we're going to focus on policy. And then obviously
00:51:32.820 we're going to answer whatever questions the moderators have. That's how we're focusing.
00:51:35.880 And by the way, just on, on, on president Trump, we have to remember Tulsi Gabbard was a democratic
00:51:41.940 Congresswoman just a few years ago. She ran against Kamala Harris back in 2020. And now she
00:51:47.920 is firmly behind the Trump Vance ticket. We're actually the ticket that is supported by common
00:51:54.300 sense people across the spectrum. I think Tulsi Gabbard, you saw her, I mean, she basically ended
00:51:59.020 Kamala's campaign on the debate stage. So she's a hell of a debater, but she's also one of these people
00:52:03.720 who believes in some common sense things like we shouldn't send America's sons and daughters
00:52:07.760 off to fight in stupid wars, right? Amen to that Tulsi. And I, I, again, I think it's really telling
00:52:14.280 that the campaign that has brought a lot of Democrats and Republicans and independents together,
00:52:19.200 it's the campaign of Donald J. Trump. And that's very important.
00:52:22.160 Well, excellent clip, and he makes a very good point. Look, Trump is a, is a championship debater.
00:52:29.640 He's proven it. He doesn't do traditional debate preparation in which somebody stands in and plays
00:52:35.480 Biden and they set up a battery of, he just doesn't do it that way. He, I think Tulsi Gabbard can be of
00:52:42.400 huge assistance to him. First of all, because of her finite knowledge of Kamala Harris's record and her,
00:52:47.640 kind of her, her tactics in the debate, but Trump doesn't need coaching on how to debate. Uh, but I
00:52:53.360 do think she can assist him with her superior knowledge, uh, and her study, uh, of Kamala Harris,
00:52:59.260 who she clearly bested, uh, in a very memorable moment that we played several times here on the show.
00:53:06.500 Uh, the entire attack on, uh, on, uh, Vance, uh, is, uh, is, uh, is kind of interesting. I mean,
00:53:13.200 what it really is, is elitism. So at some point I figured they figured out the guy they picked for
00:53:19.620 vice president is in fact pretty weird. So what other way to deflect that is that other than to
00:53:26.220 say that, well, it's J.D. Vance that is weird. Now I, Vance seems a lot more, I don't know, normal,
00:53:32.280 uh, to me than, than Tim Walsh, who seems to be, uh, you know, uh, on some kind of sugar high,
00:53:39.140 the way the guy jumps around, but more importantly, his record is a radical record.
00:53:44.840 It is a record of destruction. It's a record of being politically correct. Uh, he's lied about
00:53:51.280 his military record. They continue to deny that in the mainstream media. It's more than documented.
00:53:57.020 Uh, and of course, uh, his, his policies, uh, have left that state, uh, during the 2020 Antifa BLM
00:54:07.200 riots when he delayed three days before, uh, ordering the national guard, even though the
00:54:13.920 mayor had asked for it, then he blamed the mayor who never had the authority to activate, uh, the
00:54:19.460 Minnesota national guard. Uh, it, it, I think they realize that his radicalism is a problem. I look
00:54:27.020 forward to this vice presidential debate. You're right, Troy. Traditionally, uh, first of all,
00:54:32.300 traditionally there were ever were vice presidential debates. So, uh, Lyndon Johnson
00:54:36.800 and Henry Cabot Lodge never debated in 1960, for example. Uh, but more recently they become
00:54:42.760 an American tradition. I think this one could be an epic clash between two completely different
00:54:47.720 philosophies. Tim Walsh is a radical leftist progressive who seems to have some kind of
00:54:53.740 fixation with China. He worked in a communist Chinese funded university. He visited China 25 times.
00:55:01.340 Uh, he went on his honeymoon. He went to China. Uh, China is our most dangerous adversary on the
00:55:08.540 planet. Uh, I wonder if JD Vance asks him whether China has an ill intent, intent towards the United
00:55:16.600 States, how he would answer that question. I do too. And, uh, Mark, your thoughts on, uh,
00:55:21.940 this VP debate and, uh, JD Vance's response there. Well, for starters, I believe that, um, you know,
00:55:28.720 the, our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves and the ghost of Joseph Stalin is dancing in
00:55:34.180 the streets with the Harris waltz ticket. Uh, it is just so extreme, uh, that, uh, you know, it's
00:55:41.620 the average American is, uh, can't relate to the extremist policies of waltz and Harris. And this
00:55:48.120 country is only going to get further, uh, into, uh, socialism, uh, with these two guys. But my last
00:55:53.580 point to this is JD Vance, and in order to find a stand-in, he ought to see if Maduro, Xi Jinping,
00:55:59.680 Vladimir Putin, or Kim Jong-un, or are available to help him prep for debating with, uh, uh, Tim
00:56:05.740 Waltz.
00:56:07.020 Very good line. All right. I'm afraid we are out of time. Uh, therefore on behalf of my co-host,
00:56:12.860 Troy Smith, and also our guest today, Mark Vargas, I want to thank you all for joining us here in the
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