The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - September 08, 2026


No White After Labor Day (and No Tariffs for Canada)

Present Actions, Future Consequences Bernie Sanders vs. The Super Robots

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00:00:56.380 The Stone Zone.
00:00:58.400 Entertaining and informative.
00:01:00.560 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:01:13.400 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:01:17.120 People love him and respect him.
00:01:18.520 Roger Stone.
00:01:19.740 Now, get in the zone.
00:01:21.600 It's The Stone Zone.
00:01:23.540 Here's Roger Stone.
00:01:25.380 You are now entering the Stone Zone here on this final Labor Day weekend, the official last day of summer.
00:01:35.420 Of course, for me, the greatest change is sartorial.
00:01:39.100 No longer can any gentleman or lady wear white. 0.92
00:01:43.540 You have to put away the seersucker, put away the madriff, put away the linen, put away your two-tone spectator shoes or your white bucks. 0.50
00:01:52.080 And, of course, it's time to switch my straw Optimo Panama hat for an old-fashioned Homburg. 0.94
00:02:00.300 Summer is my favorite season when it comes to men's fashion and men's style.
00:02:07.080 Of course, I'm old-fashioned.
00:02:08.580 Some people say these rules don't matter anymore.
00:02:10.520 They very much do matter.
00:02:12.580 And pretty soon I'll be talking about flannel and talking about tweed and talking about the winter requirements.
00:02:22.900 Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law, and Steve Witkoff, who is in real life a real estate developer and a smart one,
00:02:31.560 are involved in shuttle diplomacy, having met with Putin, Vladimir Putin, for three hours
00:02:37.100 and then immediately begun meeting with Vladimir Zelensky in an effort to get peace.
00:02:44.500 Now, first of all, I really object to the attacks on Kushner and Witkoff because they're not professional diplomats.
00:02:52.680 In fact, professional diplomats usually accomplish little.
00:02:56.760 Jared Kushner deserves enormous credit for putting together the Abraham Accords, which brought an entire framework for peace in the Middle East during President Trump's first term.
00:03:06.800 And instead of criticizing those gentlemen, I think every American, Republican, Democrat, independent, those who aren't that into politics, should be praying for peace.
00:03:17.320 What we need is peace.
00:03:18.720 But also, it would be great to have an end to the war between Ukraine and Russia.
00:03:23.620 But it also demonstrates how volatile our politics is.
00:03:27.700 So all of those people who are saying that the midterm elections are going to be a bloodbath for Republicans, I don't think they understand the volatility of our elections, nor do I think they understand how any large cataclysmic event, such as a peace agreement, could change the equation almost immediately overnight.
00:03:49.020 I recognize this because I'm a veteran of 13 national presidential campaigns, having worked in two presidential campaigns for Richard Nixon, three presidential campaigns for Ronald Reagan, 1976, 1980, and 1984, and of course worked on the recount for George W. Bush in 2000.
00:04:10.400 And that was a matter of party duty rather than something that would have been my preference.
00:04:15.560 And, of course, one of the earliest people in the country to suggest to Donald Trump that he should make a serious bid for the presidency.
00:04:23.220 Now we have history in the making.
00:04:25.860 For the first time ever, the Republican Party is holding a national midterm convention.
00:04:30.960 Not a presidential convention, but one right now when, frankly, I think it most matters.
00:04:35.600 This Wednesday and Thursday, September 9th and 10th, at the American Airlines Arena in Dallas, Texas, President Donald Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance, the cabinet members, House and Senate leaders, governors, and a fighting slate of candidates will take the stage with real American workers, families, first responders, and other job creators.
00:04:57.880 This is no ordinary rally. This will be a two-night primetime showcase of the America First record.
00:05:05.600 And I think that is the largest problem going into the midterms, which is Republicans have not done a good job of pointing out the extraordinary record of Donald Trump.
00:05:16.260 No, everything is not perfect. Gas prices are not where we want them to be. Food prices are not where we want them to be.
00:05:23.240 But they we are winning in so many ways. First of all, the the run up is of the voices.
00:05:31.260 It could be quite extraordinary because it's an opportunity to point out the difference between the Democrats under Joe Biden and the Republicans under Donald Trump.
00:05:42.000 Showcase the America first record. No tax on tips. No tax on overtime.
00:05:46.800 For the first time, 90 and probably 88 percent of those receiving Social Security benefits will pay no taxes on the strongest border in modern history.
00:05:55.980 manufacturing coming home, lower drug prices, and, of course, the fight to make America healthy
00:06:02.440 again. Once again, we need to see a drawing of the bright line against the Democrats' extreme
00:06:08.740 left, indeed socialist agenda. The goal here is simple, to fire up the base, nationalize the
00:06:14.940 races, and send a message that the golden age is still very much possible. The midterms are just
00:06:20.760 six weeks away. Dallas is where the comeback gets its closing argument. The lineup is very
00:06:26.440 impressive. As I said, President Donald Trump is reported to give a keynote on day one, but also
00:06:33.000 give closing remarks on the final day. A very Trumpian. Vice President J.D. Vance will speak.
00:06:41.080 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, who is leading the charge in terms of cutting off the abuse of
00:06:48.580 federal dollars, places like Minnesota, for example. Attorney General Todd Blanche, who can
00:06:55.180 talk about the tremendous drop in all forms of crime under Donald Trump. HHH Secretary Robert F.
00:07:03.100 Kennedy Jr. I texted Bobby Kennedy this morning and I said, did you ever think the time would come
00:07:07.900 much younger in your life when you thought you would be speaking to a Republican national
00:07:13.660 Convention, and I think he chuckled. The CMS Administrator Mehmet Oz, the HUD Secretary
00:07:21.780 Scott Turner, of course, former White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt, Secretary
00:07:28.100 Marco Rubio, who I believe now is going to be among those to speak. Initially, I did
00:07:36.020 not see him in the lineup, but checking just before we went on the air, I see that he is
00:07:40.760 House Speaker Mike Johnson, Senate Majority Whip John Barrasso, Senator Tim Scott, House Minority Whip Tom Emers.
00:07:50.940 Then elected officials, some of this curious to me, Ted Cruz, a man who very clearly is making moves about running for president.
00:07:58.340 I think he would have a very hard time catching up with J.D. Vance, who by all measures is the front runner, but also Senator Dane McCormick of Pennsylvania, who I've come to really admire tremendously.
00:08:10.760 Governor Greg Abbott of Texas, my own best friend, Representative Anna Polina Luna,
00:08:19.720 Mike Lawler, who is in a suburban New York district fighting an unappealed race,
00:08:25.180 one that I predict that he will in the end win.
00:08:27.880 And then, of course, there are the key Senate races.
00:08:30.800 Mike Rogers running in Michigan against El Sayad, the radical Islamic socialist.
00:08:37.300 Michael Watley in North Carolina. These are crucial, crucial races. And, of course, not to mention the Senate nominee, Texas Attorney General and U.S. Senate nominee Ken Paxson.
00:08:51.560 Interesting also joining is Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson, who was a Democrat, became a Republican, Congressman Brandon Gill, who's going to be president someday, Congressman from Texas, and my good friend Byron Donalds, who won a smashing victory in the Florida Republican primary.
00:09:10.340 My good friend Conrad Black, I think, summed this up better than anyone else.
00:09:14.800 He said, Lord Conrad Black, of course, we're approaching the fifth and last biennial election in the Trump era.
00:09:22.080 And the president has asked voters to make a referendum on him.
00:09:24.640 Let's take a look at that record.
00:09:26.460 I mean, the tiresome and predictable criticism of pro-Trump bias will come, as it always does when anyone tries to say anything positive about the president.
00:09:34.940 But he responds with two points.
00:09:36.840 Firstly, one can dislike Trump and still recognize the accomplishments that are real and laudable.
00:09:42.540 If personal dislike for the president prevents someone from seeing that, well, the real problem of bias is with them.
00:09:48.340 Secondarily, when 92% of media coverage on the president is anti-Trump anyway, balance does not come from repeating what is already definitely amplified.
00:09:56.500 It comes from stating the parts that are generally ignored.
00:10:00.040 The successes here really are significant, and they're seldom discussed, and that is the problem.
00:10:04.600 Let's look at that record for a moment because the press won't go there.
00:10:09.380 Illegal immigration crisis at the border has been ended.
00:10:12.320 With it has been a dramatic reduction in the horrors of human trafficking, the inflow of lethal narcotics and cash flowing into the hands of violent drug cartels.
00:10:22.100 Inflation has been cut deeply.
00:10:24.020 It had a high of 9% under Joe Biden.
00:10:26.480 Now it is 3.4%, a manageable number.
00:10:31.040 It's actually 2.5 under some measures.
00:10:34.600 Crime rates across the country are much lower, with murder rates at a 70-year low.
00:10:39.180 Capital has poured into the U.S. in job-creating investment,
00:10:43.660 with the advanced country having generated greater economic growth.
00:10:47.820 The country has been liberated from climate theater without abandoning environmental protection.
00:10:53.200 Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran have all been stripped of their usefulness as the Russian-Chinese allies.
00:11:00.420 The Iranian regime is being strangled slowly and its terrorist proxies with it at almost no cost in American lives and only slight use of American organs.
00:11:11.280 Despite the shrill mantra of the radical isolationist, Trump has kept his word.
00:11:16.460 No boots on the ground, no forever war, no Iraq 2.0.
00:11:22.020 Along with the Abraham Accords, the Board of Peace, and other diplomatic initiatives, despite current tensions, the scaffolding of future peace in the Middle East is the strongest as it has ever been for decades.
00:11:36.800 As I said earlier, we may be close to a deal in the Ukrainian-Russian conflict.
00:11:42.860 Ukraine has been armed to the point that Russia is fighting a war it looks increasingly unable to win
00:11:47.360 And the Russians have been forced to import gasoline and diesel for the first time in a generation
00:11:52.260 Because it's hobbled oil refining capacity
00:11:55.620 This is one of the most persuasive lists of accomplishment as any two-term president since Theodore Roosevelt in 1906
00:12:03.180 That a president with a strong record can still have such a low approval rating is so much unprecedented
00:12:09.320 and owes to one of the greatest shortcomings, that is messaging.
00:12:14.020 President Trump can draw a crowd and dazzle his supporters like no president since Franklin Roosevelt,
00:12:19.420 but he's not yet been able to manage effectively as to use direct Oval Office addresses
00:12:23.440 with nonpartisan tone to outline the national interests
00:12:26.580 and ask for the support of the American people for its worthy objectives.
00:12:31.000 Perhaps he's keeping his powder dry, but this is the month to use it,
00:12:34.980 And I think it kicks off in this in this bisennial, this interim convention at the Republican National Convention in Dallas.
00:12:46.680 It is is going to be a spectacular.
00:12:49.980 Another point I would make, of course, is that the Senate race there is very close between Ken Paxton and James Tallarico.
00:12:56.520 Tallarico is a radical who said some crazy, crazy things.
00:13:00.700 But even if the national media does not give the kind of coverage to the convention that they should or that they would give to the Democrats,
00:13:09.280 the Texas-based media will give extraordinary coverage to the convention.
00:13:15.200 And that alone can boost a U.S. Senate race in a race which is crucial.
00:13:20.620 In the meantime, New York Mayor Zoran Mamdami showed just how out of touch he is in the city.
00:13:26.940 as he's supposed to be leading just days before the 25th anniversary of September 11th.
00:13:33.180 After signing executive orders establishing a statewide day of remembrance
00:13:37.060 and strengthening emergency preparedness,
00:13:39.500 Ma'am Demi directed the ceremonial signing pen to his chief counsel, Ramzi Qassem.
00:13:45.140 Now, Qassem previously represented Ahmed al-Darbi,
00:13:49.220 who pleaded guilty to war crimes involving al-Qaeda plots against commercial shipping
00:13:54.200 and whose brother-in-law was Khalid al-Mindar, one of the hijackers aboard the plane that struck the Pentagon.
00:14:01.060 While it's no crime to represent a terrorist in a court proceeding, everybody's entitled to a legal representation.
00:14:06.080 It is extremely inappropriate for that attorney to receive an award while commemorating 9-11.
00:14:12.660 New York has prepared to mark 25 years since nearly 3,000 people were murdered in the worst attack in our country of our history. 0.92
00:14:19.080 It cannot be forgotten that radical Islam was responsible for that attack.
00:14:22.780 And now a Muslim is mayor, and he does not seem to have much sympathy for the victims or the heroes of 9-11. 0.82
00:14:31.040 The mayor had every opportunity to give that pen to a firefighter, a police officer, a survivor of a victim's family member. 0.89
00:14:38.600 Instead, the gesture became an aide whose legal career inevitably evokes Guantanamo and al-Qaeda.
00:14:45.520 Don't believe that this was an innocent mistake.
00:14:47.800 Ma'am Dami is increasingly self-aware.
00:14:50.800 I agree with Governor George Pataki, Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and the retired president of the Port Authority Police Association, John McDivitt, all of whom have appealed to the mayor, along with my good friend Sid Rosenberg, to urge the mayor not to show up at the 9-11 events and to make this a dedication to the family.
00:15:15.780 So far, the mayor says he's going to come.
00:15:18.140 I think there will be peaceful protest if he does.
00:15:20.780 You're listening to Stone's Zone.
00:15:21.760 I'm Roger Stone, and we'll be right back.
00:15:25.260 The Stone's Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:15:42.180 This is the Stone's Zone.
00:15:44.380 Now, get him a zone. It's the Stone Zone.
00:15:48.480 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him.
00:15:55.560 Not everybody, but people love him and respect him. Roger Stone. Where's Roger Stone?
00:16:00.300 Here's Roger Stone.
00:16:03.120 Welcome back into the Stone Zone.
00:16:06.700 As I said earlier, I think it is vitally important that we talk about the record.
00:16:11.940 The Democrats try to pretend the record is a failed record when, in fact, last Friday's jobs report showed the labor market rebounding more sharply than anybody expected.
00:16:21.480 Payrolls rose by $162,000 in August, well above the consensus forecast of about $55,000 to $65,000.
00:16:30.960 In other words, unemployment held at 4.1%.
00:16:34.620 The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that private payrolls rose by $127,000.
00:16:39.940 7,000. Additionally, government employment rose by 35,000, driven largely by 42,000 rebound in
00:16:47.560 local government education after a drop the month before. Food services and restaurants added
00:16:53.960 59,000 voters. Manufacturing added 16,000. Construction added 22,000. The information
00:17:01.780 sector lost about 23,000 votes. The White House spokesman, Kush Desai, called the report evidence
00:17:08.380 America is in the middle of a historic investment broom and that re-industrialization is coming up in the data.
00:17:15.340 So President Trump's second term has created more than $1 million private sector jobs.
00:17:21.000 Federal employment remains at a record low share of the workforce.
00:17:25.180 And the United States said in August that the $162,000 gain was well above the 12-month average of about $31,000 a month,
00:17:33.800 the second largest monthly increase on the current term.
00:17:39.020 July private payrolls were revised higher to a gain of 71,000.
00:17:43.340 Usually, when the statistics are revisited, they are disappointing.
00:17:50.100 In this case, the restatement has actually been beneficial to the administration.
00:17:55.440 So combined, June and July unemployment is now 55,000 higher than previously reported.
00:18:02.580 Manufacturing unemployment rose for the third straight month and is up 58,000 from December of 2025 low.
00:18:11.060 Machinery and fabricated medical productions each added about 6,000 votes.
00:18:15.780 Economists have tied the rebound to the reindustrialization of pharmaceutical, defense, semiconductor, and data center production.
00:18:24.800 Construction's 25,000 gain was concentrated in non-residential specialty rates, which added about 8,000.
00:18:32.000 This is precisely what Republicans need to be talking about in Dallas.
00:18:37.360 I'll be right back. I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to Stone Zone.
00:18:40.520 Whatever you ever do, don't go away.
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00:19:02.000 this is the stone zone now get in the zone it's the stone zone a man who's gone through hell
00:19:16.340 but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him not everybody but
00:19:22.180 people love him and respect him roger stone where's roger stone here's roger stone
00:19:27.280 welcome back into the stone zone joining us now a a seasoned political analyst troy
00:19:35.360 smith who is the editor-in-chief of slingshot.news and we're working without a net today i told him
00:19:41.720 he could come on and we could talk about any political topic that he wanted to troy welcome
00:19:46.460 into the stone zone roger i just want to say welcome uh i hope you had a great vacation
00:19:51.340 and thank you so much for having me on.
00:19:55.200 It's just great to be here.
00:19:56.560 You know, Roger, we have a lot of political stuff going on right now,
00:19:59.480 but the first thing I wanted to get your opinion on
00:20:01.280 is this Trump trade war with Canada.
00:20:05.180 Trump has basically said that he's not going to allow Canada
00:20:07.940 to take advantage of the United States anymore.
00:20:10.720 He's gone as far as to say that he's going to rename Lake Ontario, Lake America,
00:20:15.440 which has just set the mainstream media into complete apoplexy, Roger.
00:20:20.760 They are losing their minds over this. And I want to get your thoughts. Is this a smart, strategic move by the president?
00:20:26.280 Is he just trying to stir up the media? What's really behind this move by Trump to assert the U.S.'s dominance over Canada in our trade position, which seems to be slanted towards Canada and has been for years?
00:20:37.460 Well, first of all, Donald Trump, of course, is the master troll. 0.94
00:20:41.080 And that is what I think he's doing here. 0.95
00:20:42.940 Although Google Maps is going ahead with this change.
00:20:47.500 You remember when he changed the Gulf of Mexico to now is now the Gulf of America.
00:20:52.120 If I were Mark Carney, by the way, who was a regular on Epstein Island, the current prime minister of Canada,
00:20:59.100 I would be worried about the fact that two of their most prosperous states, Alberta and Saskatchewan,
00:21:04.100 Saskatchewan, have very serious independence operations underfoot.
00:21:08.660 You see, under the Constitutional Constitution of Convention,
00:21:11.400 any province, that's like a state, can by majority vote to fight their independence.
00:21:16.860 And Alberta and Saskatchewan, Alberta's larger,
00:21:20.760 such a price was so small, but both of them are,
00:21:22.740 that's where the oil and the gas and the raw earth intramurals are.
00:21:27.220 That is where the mining of national resources,
00:21:33.460 That's where business is done, and there are very active movements in both Alberta and Saskatchewan to seek their independence.
00:21:43.940 Now, if they do that, and of course the federal government is defeating them, is fighting them, but their constitution is pretty clear.
00:21:50.160 If the votes by a majority put it on a ballot through a partition process, and then a vote of a majority of people voted, those states would become independent.
00:21:57.760 And they, of course, could then apply for sense to be stateship, you know, statehood, I should say.
00:22:03.780 And both Alberta and Saskatchewan, who are the two wealthiest of the two provinces in terms of natural resources and business, would become part of the United States.
00:22:14.860 This is not a pipe dream. This is a real possibility.
00:22:18.000 So if I were Mark Carney, I guess I would be a little bit more concerned with that. 0.87
00:22:20.960 But, of course, the collaboration between Canada and the Chinese communists goes all back to the time that Pierre Trudeau was their leader.
00:22:32.880 One of my favorite, I was a great fan of Justin Trudeau, of course, but if you listen to one of the White House tapes, the Watergate tapes, one that was very rarely played, it doesn't get much coverage.
00:22:45.540 But in a conversation between President Richard Nixon and his national security advisor, then Henry Kissinger, he says, well, Henry, I heard I met Pierre Trudeau last night.
00:22:55.840 And Henry says, well, Mr. President, what did you think?
00:22:59.080 And Nixon said, well, he was one of the biggest a-holes I've ever met.
00:23:03.400 So there you have it right there.
00:23:05.540 So Trump is kind of like Theodore Roosevelt in the way he loves to kind of tease and troll his political enemies.
00:23:13.000 And it is, of course, is where Trump dimension syndrome comes from.
00:23:18.240 Absolutely, Roger. And it's been prevalent throughout his first presidency and now his second presidency.
00:23:24.180 You know, an issue that we can kind of dovetail with this is Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's opinion on this fight.
00:23:32.120 He's actually called for the U.S. to drop all tariffs on Canada, essentially allowing Canada to take advantage of the American consumer at every turn, Roger.
00:23:40.900 And that's why I want to get your thoughts not only on Schumer's response to this, but, you know, it seems to me he's facing a bigger battle within his own party just to maintain control of the Senate, because as you've talked about and we've talked about here on the airwaves many times, whether it's AOC or Syed or many other DSA candidates throughout the Democratic Party, Senator Schumer seems to be on their hit list.
00:24:04.840 He's somebody that they're coming after. And I want to get your thoughts on Schumer kind of attacking Trump, but really failing to recognize in public the real threat he faces of being replaced from within his own party.
00:24:15.780 Chuck Schumer has been spending an enormous amount of time in upstate New York recently. This is a man who's running for his life. He's also a man who realizes he has overstayed his welcome.
00:24:24.380 He recently showed up in the 21st district where Elise Stefanik is retiring, and Anthony
00:24:30.560 Constantino won that Republican primary for a record number.
00:24:34.540 There's a local farmer, Blake Jendabeen, who's really tried to hide the fact that he supported
00:24:42.000 Kamala Harris.
00:24:42.880 He hid that for a while before finally admitting it.
00:24:45.300 Then he kind of got caught.
00:24:47.140 He took a huge amount of funding from Governor Kathy Hochul, but he put up a TV spot in which
00:24:51.920 he said he would stand up to Kathy Hochul.
00:24:53.540 She immediately demanded that the Democrat candidate take that down,
00:24:57.520 showing that she is indeed a popular campaign that's been funded largely by people from Washington, New York City, and Hollywood.
00:25:05.180 And Chuck Schumer showed up recently there with this rhetoric.
00:25:09.200 You see, what he's afraid of is AOC.
00:25:11.140 Now, AOC is in the catbird seat. 0.68
00:25:13.380 She can raise the money necessary for a U.S. Senate primary in the Democratic Party in New York State, 1.00
00:25:18.580 or she can, of course, run for president.
00:25:20.680 She just shared her boyfriend, political consultant.
00:25:23.140 I'm not sure what to make of that.
00:25:25.120 But anyone who does not recognize the grassroots appeal among the far left and her ability to raise multi-millions of dollars need to be afraid.
00:25:36.100 In all honesty, I think that no white Catholic Democrat candidate can win a Democrat primary in New York City anymore given the vast demographic changes in New York State.
00:25:48.940 I think Chuck Schumer is increasing his profile, defending the pro-Chinese communist government of Canada in an effort to save his own seat in what I think will be and could be a challenge from AOC.
00:26:05.320 Well, Roger, and that leads me to my next question, because you've been involved with Republican politics for so many decades.
00:26:11.180 You've seen so many candidates come and go.
00:26:13.700 And so you uniquely understand the appeal that especially Republican candidates have to have to win in a general election, especially on the national stage.
00:26:21.860 So I want to ask you about how the Democrats are evolving as a party.
00:26:26.840 I remember in the great documentary that I encourage everybody to check out on Netflix, Get Me Roger Stone.
00:26:34.060 It's talked about in that documentary, and you've talked about many times, how the Reagan
00:26:37.900 Democrat was crucial for Ronald Reagan's election in the 1980s, twice, both times Democrats
00:26:45.860 left their party to vote for Ronald Reagan.
00:26:49.200 In the current day, Roger, do you think it's realistic for Republicans to bank on that?
00:26:53.300 And adding to that question, do you think Republicans have effectively countered the
00:26:57.560 messaging of the DSA yet heading into the midterm elections?
00:27:01.480 It's a two-part question. Let me try to answer it. First of all, the reason that Donald Trump won when Mitt Romney lost and John McCain lost is because Donald Trump has demonstrated this unique ability to vote, to win the votes of blue-collar ethnic Catholic Democrats, which are part of the old Nixon-Reagan coalition who left and voted for Bill Clinton.
00:27:22.900 Many of them did not return.
00:27:24.780 So he has an ability in the urban areas and in the swing states to attract those voters in a way that others do not have.
00:27:33.940 The left wing of the Democratic Party may flourish this summer as fed up liberals in key races.
00:27:39.640 The country currently has eschewed traditional, more moderate candidates in favor of hard-charging progressives.
00:27:44.880 Behind the scenes, ultra-progressive House members and candidates are pushing their own party leaders to reflect more of that mood,
00:27:51.460 arguing that Democrat leaders like Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, their allies so far,
00:27:56.320 seem to grasp the demands of the far-left voters who are show-up in droves in these summer primaries.
00:28:02.480 The liberals, I think, in that party are watching and learn in recent weeks
00:28:05.620 as Jefferson publicly disavowed their marquee Medicare-for-all bill
00:28:10.360 while pro-Israel Democrats were elevated to key foreign policy roles within the Democrat caucus.
00:28:16.220 They also argue his allies were working to undermine a pair of progressive candidates in Michigan
00:28:21.400 and California. By the way, most of that is an analysis published by CNN. So yes, I think that
00:28:27.940 the Republicans have to do a very job. Just pitting the socialist label on Democrats will
00:28:34.300 not do the trick. Sadly enough, the polling shows that particularly younger voters don't really
00:28:39.860 understand the difference between socialism and capitalism, or they think that socialism may be
00:28:44.720 superior. But you have demonstrated another key point, is that is there are Trump voters
00:28:50.820 who are not Republican voters, and they don't turn out when Donald Trump is on the ballot,
00:28:56.800 and he's not going to be on the ballot in this upcoming midterm election. So it's up Republicans
00:29:02.760 to use Trump to mobilize those voters. This is a difference between broadcasting and narrowcasting.
00:29:10.360 So I can see Republicans utilizing Trump to reach those Trump voters, so they can identify
00:29:17.920 email addresses and voter and mail addresses for and phone numbers for and using them to turn out
00:29:24.660 in a more strategic approach to those voters. I happen to know that the White House has tested
00:29:30.080 that technology to Trump voters in some of these special elections that I think could deliver an
00:29:36.920 edge. Now, again, I think the panicans have moved much too early to declare this election.
00:29:43.500 It's interesting that
00:29:45.000 Akeem Jeffries is already
00:29:47.340 talking about
00:29:48.260 the
00:29:49.320 next round of
00:29:53.200 recrimination and retaliation.
00:29:55.480 They're already telling us they intend to, if they win
00:29:57.400 the House in November, investigate Donald Trump,
00:29:59.780 investigate his cabinet members,
00:30:01.280 investigate his family, and keep impeachment
00:30:03.200 on the table. I think it was Fox News
00:30:05.300 that reported that senior Democrats are
00:30:07.240 openly discussing probes of the Pentagon,
00:30:09.600 defense contracts, White House spending,
00:30:11.280 and alleged Trump family conflicts.
00:30:14.660 Congressman Jason Crow, who helped manage one of the earlier Trump impeachments,
00:30:18.540 would not rule out impeachment again.
00:30:20.960 Should the Democrats win the House, I think you can expect it.
00:30:23.620 But remember, in the Senate, it is a two-thirds majority.
00:30:28.020 So that gives you some idea what is at stake in these upcoming elections.
00:30:32.040 The midterm is not simply about who chairs the Agriculture Committee, for example.
00:30:36.360 A Democrat House should become a subpoena factory on day one.
00:30:39.240 The same people who spent years telling Americans that President Trump was the greatest threat to democracy are preparing another round of investigations and they say it's revenge and retaliation when really what it is is accountability and justice.
00:30:54.760 Americans already lived through Russiagate, two phony impeachments, and less congressional theater and lawfare designed to cripple the president politically after opponents could not beat his agenda.
00:31:04.540 So should they win? They'll repeat that all over again if the Democrats are able to wrestle away control of Congress from the Republicans.
00:31:11.120 So the message for November should be quite simple if you ask me. Voters want two more years of border enforcement, tax cuts, energy production, American policy, then they'll keep the House Republican, and that is more than possible.
00:31:22.860 He really boils down to about 35 or perhaps 38 individual districts.
00:31:27.800 And right now I can tell you the polling shows Republicans in ahead of every one of them.
00:31:32.320 If they want another parade of hearings, family subpoenas and impeachment circus every afternoon, well, they can vote for the Democrats.
00:31:39.020 One party is serious about helping America. 0.97
00:31:41.020 The other one is a deranged freak show on steroids.
00:31:44.140 And you will see the recriminations return.
00:31:47.540 Well, absolutely, Roger.
00:31:48.680 And I think that analysis is spot on.
00:31:50.320 And it's the antithesis of what you're hearing from James Carville and others who are kind of sounding the rallying cry, of course, trying to get everybody hyped up heading into these midterms.
00:32:00.500 They're hoping that the anti-Trump vote is going to be strong enough to carry candidates that I think in many areas lack substance.
00:32:08.840 And one of those candidates that I wanted to ask you about, because it's become such a hot button issue, and I want to preface this by saying, you know, you, Roger, know and I know that there's a lot of Republican strategists out there,
00:32:18.900 A lot of people within the political complex of this country that will tell you that, oh, this race is close and that race is close when they know it's not the case because they can make money off of the vast amounts of mailers and political advertising, whether it be through media or on the ground, wherever it may be.
00:32:35.000 And I've seen you talk about that as well.
00:32:37.100 One of the areas that strategists – I just saw Karl Rove on Fox News talking about – is Texas.
00:32:43.200 They're talking about how Texas is so close.
00:32:45.400 And, of course, we have John Cornyn, who is not heading back to the Senate.
00:32:49.300 He's going to be retired as he was defeated in the primary by Ken Paxton.
00:32:54.120 He's going up against Democrat James Tallarico in the general.
00:32:58.100 And a lot of people are saying, Roger, that this could be the year that Texas goes blue.
00:33:02.180 I feel like I have amnesia.
00:33:03.340 They say this every four years, every six years, it seems.
00:33:07.160 What's your opinion on Texas?
00:33:09.240 Is it really in danger of going blue?
00:33:11.260 what's going on in the Lone Star State. I think once voters in that state really focus on James
00:33:17.780 Tallarico, affectionately named James Talafrico by Donald Trump, he's the one that says there are
00:33:24.020 more than two genders, for example, or that a number of other really vile things that he said
00:33:31.160 that the Republicans will win. We'll come back and talk about that at the time. We're listening
00:33:35.580 to the political, we're in the political roundup here with my good friend Troy Smith, and you're
00:33:39.440 listening to the Stone Zone, we'll be right back and we'll get deeper into the Lone Star State.
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00:34:09.440 this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's a very very one of the smartest
00:34:24.440 political minds roger stone was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant
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00:34:35.260 Welcome back into the Stone Zone.
00:34:39.900 Still with us is my good friend and colleague Troy Smith from slingshot.news.
00:34:45.240 We're talking about the political atmosphere in Texas.
00:34:48.300 Now, it is true that the demographics of Texas are changing,
00:34:52.260 but Tallarico is very, very far out of the mainstream.
00:34:57.000 And I think he's saying God, for example, is non-binary, said.
00:35:01.320 And modern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than two biological sexes, which, of course, is an absurdity. 0.99
00:35:09.600 Radical white men are the greatest domestic terrorist threat in the country's history. 0.98
00:35:14.400 That capitalism is an oppressive system. 0.99
00:35:17.120 By the way, I believe he's also in the great beef state of Texas.
00:35:21.840 I think he's a vegan.
00:35:24.160 Jesus was anti-Trump, he said in 2019.
00:35:27.760 So this guy is very far outside the mainstream.
00:35:30.040 I don't think most voters know that.
00:35:32.440 And then secondarily, I made this point in the opening.
00:35:35.200 The fact that the convention, the midterm convention is happening in Texas, means that even when the national media seeks a blackout of much of what happens, the speeches by the president, the speech by the vice president, it will get incredible coverage in Texas.
00:35:53.360 And Ken Pax is among the winners there.
00:35:56.820 Also, a story earlier this week was completely wrong, said that Trump was not going to open his $400 million war chest at MAGA, Inc., and that Elon Musk's America PAC was not going to spend in Texas when the exact opposite has happened.
00:36:18.080 We now know that Elon Musk has, in fact, opened his first initial spending.
00:36:24.460 He's began spending in the early, he spent writing a check for $247,000 in early media speaking.
00:36:32.580 I think that's one week, by the way.
00:36:34.440 So I think, again, at the end, I believe Ken Paxton will win that seat over Tal Rico.
00:36:41.460 But you're right to elevate that race.
00:36:43.400 It is one the Democrats seem to think today that they have within their reach.
00:36:48.140 Well, and I think there's a fatal flaw in the Democrat theory about Texas, Roger,
00:36:52.140 And it lies in the subtle racism of the Democratic Party, which suggests that they can win votes by moving in people from Hispanic nations.
00:37:02.760 And they think that people from Hispanic nations are going to vote for transgenderism and for even open borders.
00:37:10.320 Yes, it's true, folks, that the people who don't like illegal immigration, possibly most in this country, are those who have come here legally.
00:37:17.740 And the Democrats can't live with that fact.
00:37:19.800 I think there's a lot of facts that they can't live with, Roger, and that's why they find themselves in this weird position.
00:37:25.680 We talked about earlier about how a lot of the DSA candidates are going to hurt the Democrats on the main stage when they get to the general election where they have to appeal to the average American.
00:37:36.880 And I think that's present in a lot of candidates that they're currently running.
00:37:41.320 And as we kind of look forward, I know we're not even to the midterms yet, Roger, but I have to get your opinions on this.
00:37:47.100 Hunter Biden has announced that he is considering running for president.
00:37:51.800 He's announced that he's going to be launching his own crypto coin in the next week.
00:37:57.020 I wanted to get your thoughts on the painter Hunter Biden now saying he's going to run for president.
00:38:02.300 I mean, just unbelievable, right?
00:38:03.740 No, he said it right here, right here, said it on these very same airways.
00:38:07.240 Look, we should be so lucky.
00:38:09.500 Anybody who wants to really understand him should go to BidenReport.com.
00:38:13.020 That's BidenReport.com, where his own laptop, which, by the way, is not fraudulent, which I had no role whatsoever in making public.
00:38:20.920 Everything I know I read in the New York Post shows a combination of over 400 state and federal crimes, including massive drug use, obviously, but also massive bribery.
00:38:33.000 So at this point, he's become a caricature.
00:38:36.060 Maybe, like he said in an interview with Gavin Newsom, maybe they'll put him on the ticket for vice president.
00:38:41.380 We should be so lucky.
00:38:43.680 I think he was really polling, trolling.
00:38:46.460 I don't think that Hunter Biden is really going to run for president.
00:38:48.920 But if he wants to run, that would really be great.
00:38:51.640 Maybe they put him on the ticket with AOC.
00:38:53.480 That would really be terrific.
00:38:55.520 We can vote.
00:38:56.580 That would be a great, great contest if it went that down, went down that way.
00:39:01.300 You can go, of course, to Marco Polo dot org or go to Biden report dot com.
00:39:07.340 And you can either download or copy and get a copy of the actual top, his entire top laptop content.
00:39:15.660 And I think there'll be that will be the end of any illusions that anyone would have about him being a viable candidate for president of the United States.
00:39:24.800 All right. I want to thank you all for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
00:39:28.120 We're doing this from a remote location during a thunderstorm with my Yorkshire Terrier Pee Wee 2.0 in my lap.
00:39:38.880 So this has been a little uneven for tonight's show.
00:39:41.540 It's because we are animal lovers.
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