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00:00:47.560 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:00:51.260 People love him and respect him. Roger Stone.
00:00:53.880 Now, get in the zone. It's The Stone Zone.
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00:01:05.860 Well, Republicans are opening an experiment in Dallas this week
00:01:08.800 that almost no modern president at all,
00:01:11.440 a full-scale midterm convention built around a sitting president
00:01:15.400 who's not on the ballot.
00:01:17.320 I'm feeling rather wistful about this
00:01:19.120 since I have been to every Republican national convention since 1964.
00:01:25.420 I was exactly 12 years old when I went to Chiron, Barry Goldwater.
00:01:29.540 And, of course, Richard Nixon's two conventions in Miami Beach, 1968 and 1972.
00:01:35.900 In 1972, they originally planned to go to San Diego.
00:01:39.460 Then they figured out San Diego didn't have enough hotel rooms.
00:01:42.520 They ended up back in Miami Beach.
00:01:45.300 And, of course, three conventions with the great Ronald Reagan working on his 76, 1980 and 1984 campaigns.
00:01:52.400 And, of course, all of the Trump conventions.
00:01:55.580 I have not missed Republican National Convention since this one.
00:01:58.660 President Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance are headlining the two-day RNC gathering joined by cabinet officials and candidates emphasizing border enforcement, tax cuts, manufacturing, trade and public safety.
00:02:12.460 Organizers expect about 30,000 attendees. They've budgeted roughly $40 million.
00:02:18.380 President Trump's coalition includes working class and lower propensity voters who have not turned out strongly in non-presidential years, but have turned out in years in which Trump himself is on the ballot.
00:02:30.580 So by putting President Trump at the center of the spectacle, Republicans are trying to gin up some presidential energy for an off-year contest.
00:02:37.500 This I can tell you. Despite the fact that some in the mainstream media may not provide the coverage that this event deserves, it will get a disproportionate amount of coverage in the crucial state of Texas, Texas, where a U.S. Senate seat and the governorship are both up for grabs.
00:02:55.520 The governor's race is closer than expected, and the Senate seat, of course, being one of the most focused races in the country, where Ken Paxton, the sitting attorney general, who came from behind to win President Trump's endorsement over a rhino in that state's primary, faces James Tallarico, a far-left progressive, if not Islamic Marxist Democrat, who's now trying to pass for a moderate.
00:03:21.380 Nationalizing the election around Trump's record will have the potential to energize voters who might otherwise stay home.
00:03:27.560 The Republican brand is highly unpopular nationwide.
00:03:30.940 There's still too many rhinos in the fold.
00:03:32.880 Republican President Trump is the unquestioned leader and the crown jewel of the GOP.
00:03:37.860 There are a subset of voters out there, most of them blue-collar, working families, middle-class voters who aren't Republicans but will vote for Trump.
00:03:48.220 This is why Mitt Romney and John McCain did not win, and Donald Trump did.
00:03:53.200 He should be, in my opinion, featured as much as possible to energize this MAGA base,
00:03:57.380 because if they decide to stay home, well, we lose the midterms.
00:04:01.460 With Republicans to fail to pass measures like the Common Sense Save America Act,
00:04:07.240 President Trump has to bail out the feckless, weak Republican establishment yet again.
00:04:13.400 He's very effective trying to place his agenda on every Republican line without listing himself.
00:04:17.660 This is the key to getting as many Republicans elected as possible.
00:04:21.180 And we have to do a better job, frankly, of communicating his record, whether it is the drop in violent crime, whether it is the sealing of our borders, whether it is the low inflation rate, whether it is the new jobs numbers.
00:04:34.500 On so many fronts, the president is breaking through and keeping his promises.
00:04:40.000 Is everything ideal? No, we don't claim that it is.
00:04:42.700 But just the fact that Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law, and Steve Witkoff are on a mission for peace, having just met with Putin in Russia and then with Zelensky in Ukraine, demonstrates that the volatility here in the political sphere is really extraordinary.
00:05:01.840 Almost anything could happen, and any breakthrough, either here or less likely but possible, in Iran would have an extraordinary effect on the off-term elections.
00:05:13.200 By the way, the new Harvard-Harris poll, no one's idea of a biased or Republican-leaning poll, shows that generically Republicans actually lead Democrats 51-49 on the ballot. 0.92
00:05:24.140 So for those panikins who are ready to throw in the towel in the midterm elections, I say right here in the Stone Zone, not so fast. 0.90
00:05:33.820 Meanwhile, President Trump has floated another geographic rebranding, this time suggesting that New Mexico could become New America. 0.92
00:05:41.880 He posted maps showing the state with Mexico crossed out, replaced by America, and the White House amplifies the image.
00:05:48.680 President Trump called the proposed name prestigious and beautiful.
00:05:52.400 Democrat New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham, who is the son of the great Manuel Lujan, a longtime Republican congressman, rejected the idea immediately, noting that the name predates the United States.
00:06:05.140 Spanish explorers were using Nuevo Mexico centuries before statehood.
00:06:09.720 But unlike federal names for geographic features, the president actually doesn't possess unilateral authority to rename a state.
00:06:17.160 And the White House has not announced a process to attempt it.
00:06:20.540 This is what is known as trolling.
00:06:23.020 President Trump was floating an idea that he certainly hoped it would get immediate attraction.
00:06:28.120 And of course it did. 1.00
00:06:29.880 Theodore Roosevelt used to do this kind of thing with the yellow journalists of his day. 1.00
00:06:34.380 President Trump has already actually renamed the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America. 1.00
00:06:38.960 and he swapped out Lake America for Lake Ontario.
00:06:43.000 Those bold moves are expressions of national confidence from a president
00:06:46.640 who's not afraid to flout political norms when he deems it necessary.
00:06:51.240 In this case, President Trump's suggestion also lands inside a trade dispute with Mexico
00:06:55.760 as he wants to show the Mexican government who calls the shots.
00:06:59.700 It remains to be seen whether New America will actually appear in any legal state. 0.86
00:07:03.100 I don't think so, but it's already accomplished the immediate objective
00:07:06.280 of making liberals howl completely 0.72
00:07:08.220 bent out of shape. That takes their
00:07:10.280 energy away from opposing President Trump's America
00:07:12.260 First agenda and other crucial
00:07:14.180 fronts, and for that alone, well, I think
00:07:16.420 it's a win.
00:07:18.180 Meanwhile, construction preparations are
00:07:20.200 beginning for President Trump's proposed
00:07:21.940 triumphal arch near Arlington
00:07:23.880 National Cemetery, a project or
00:07:26.080 nicknamed Arc de Trump.
00:07:28.320 Pretty good joke there.
00:07:30.700 Interior Secretary Doug Burgum
00:07:32.280 says excavation work
00:07:34.180 is expected to begin within weeks on a
00:07:36.080 roughly 250-foot structure planned near Memorial Circle across the Potomac from the Lincoln Memorial.
00:07:44.340 Renderings show a monumental white arch topped with gilded statuary, including wing features
00:07:50.260 and eagles with an observation deck incorporated into the design.
00:07:54.460 The administration presents the project as a memorial to America's military service
00:07:58.960 and part of a broader effort to reshape and beautify prominent federal spaces in Washington.
00:08:04.600 Last time I was in the Oval Office, the president was lamenting the fact that the federal government has all of these statues of our founders, our forefathers, and other national heroes, and they're all crated up in warehouses.
00:08:17.420 And he wants to beautify our nation's capital, and he certainly is doing that, because he is, at heart, of course, a builder and a developer.
00:08:24.900 And he understands the majestic beauty of D.C. if it is kept up or even improved.
00:08:30.320 This project arrives before all of its legal and planning disputes are settled, which are expected to be numerous from leftist obstructionists who live to impede President Trump's vision for the country and the Capitol.
00:08:42.860 Final approvals remain outstanding, and opponents have challenged the administration's ability to proceed, of course, arguing that the arch could disrupt historic sight lines, inquire additional reviews.
00:08:54.540 The planned height exceeds Washington's usual building limits, which could easily, of course, be exempted.
00:09:00.320 The monument is a deliberate return to grand civic architecture at a time when much federal design is favored restraint and abstraction.
00:09:09.860 Modern buildings are brutalist and erected to be eyesores, in my opinion.
00:09:13.960 This is a way to demoralize the public and dull them down to the perception of true architectural beauty.
00:09:20.300 President Trump is pushing back against this movement.
00:09:22.980 The argument is about far more than stone and steel.
00:09:26.040 America's monuments have always been statements about what the country chooses to honor and how
00:09:30.860 power wants to be remembered. President Trump is proposing something unapologetically monumental.
00:09:36.920 The courts and the planning agencies must stand aside and allow President Trump's vision to
00:09:41.780 finally be realized. Put me down as being in favor of the Ark de Trump. Meanwhile, Secretary of State
00:09:48.700 Marco Rubio begins a three-county Latin America tour Tuesday with a premise that Washington has
00:09:55.760 neglected for far too long, competition with China, which starts much closer at home than
00:10:00.820 South China Sea. Rubio opens up in Colombia, where nearly elected President Abadalardo Diaspralia
00:10:07.240 has replaced Gustavo Petro, a leftist, and moved quickly towards closer security cooperation with
00:10:13.760 the United States. Colombia has joined the U.S.-led Shield of the Americas Initiative against
00:10:19.400 drug trafficking and resumed joint military operations. Rubio will also then travel to
00:10:25.260 Ecuador and Peru, both led by conservative governments that are happy to work with the
00:10:29.680 Trump administration. State Department says counter-narcotics cooperations is one of the
00:10:34.520 central purposes of the trip. No one has missed the fact, however, that this trip by the Secretary
00:10:39.860 of State means he will not appear at the Republican National Convention in Dallas.
00:10:44.900 So for those who say that Rubio was planning to run for president, this would argue against it.
00:10:50.040 Of course, it doesn't mean that he couldn't run, but it is interesting that J.D. Vance
00:10:54.000 And President Trump will headline the convention in Dallas while Secretary of State Marco Rubio is fighting narco-Marxism in this hemisphere.
00:11:04.580 The broader context here is about influence, infrastructure, and political alignment across the Western Hemisphere. 0.55
00:11:10.340 China has spent years expanding relationships through trade, telecommunications, ports, loans, and construction projects, dumping many yen into the region.
00:11:20.660 The Trump administration is answering with security partnerships, anti-cartel operations, investment, and more explicit assertion that this hemisphere is strategically central to the United States.
00:11:32.860 This is, of course, the core of the president's so-called Don Roe doctrine, based on leverage rather than occupation.
00:11:41.180 Rubio's advantage is that geography and shared security interests are real, and conservative governments are happy to receive the help.
00:11:48.340 The administration has the opportunity to build durable partnerships to help to influence the Latin American renaissance that's currently underway, and together we can make the Americas great again.
00:11:58.040 It is not a coincidence that since the shutdown of USAID flooding millions of dollars into the region that was being used for politics, that pro-American, pro-nationalist, pro-freedom, anti-Marxist, anti-narco governments have won in Chile, in Peru, in Honduras, and again here in Colombia, as I said.
00:12:20.100 Meanwhile, Huawei, the Chinese internet giant, is going to trial in New York City on criminal charges and shadowed the Chinese telecommunications giant for a number of years.
00:12:29.780 Jury selection is beginning in a federal case accusing Huawei and several subsidiaries of racketeering, theft of trade secrets, bank and wire fraud, sanctions violations, and other misconduct.
00:12:41.540 Prosecutors allege the company stole American technology,
00:12:45.120 conducted prohibited business involving Iran and North Korea,
00:12:48.680 and helped install surveillance technology used by Iranian authorities
00:12:52.740 during the anti-government demonstrations.
00:12:55.460 Huawei, of course, denies wrongdoing,
00:12:56.880 has argued that the prosecution is vague, politically motivated,
00:13:01.340 and beyond proper U.S. jurisdiction.
00:13:03.420 But what would you expect a Chinese communist-affiliated company 0.63
00:13:05.860 to ever admit is touchwary?
00:13:07.600 Not by a long shot.
00:13:08.580 The significance here reaches beyond Huawei, this one Chinese company.
00:13:13.020 Huawei has become a symbol of the wider U.S.-China technology conflict
00:13:16.740 because telecommunications equipment sits at the intersection of commerce, data, and national security.
00:13:24.220 The Trump administration began pressing allies to exclude Huawei equipment earlier,
00:13:28.800 while U.S. sanctions restricted the company's access to advanced technology.
00:13:33.000 China responded by accelerating domestic chip development and reducing reliance on U.S. suppliers.
00:13:39.240 The trial now puts a narrow proposition before jurors.
00:13:43.100 Whether prosecutors can prove that Huawei, a Chinese company's rise, specifically included criminal conduct.
00:13:49.540 If a Chinese firm can be punished for theft, fraud, and sanctions evasions, 0.88
00:13:53.620 this will give China a resounding message to stay out of our country 0.99
00:13:57.040 and stop this effort to infiltrate every strata of American society. 0.99
00:14:01.280 This is their opportunity to shut the door on the Chinese menace and their infiltration efforts of our country once and for all. 1.00
00:14:09.560 I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to The Stone Zone. We'll be right back with more politics on the other side. 1.00
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00:15:01.280 Welcome back into the Stone Zone, where we talk politics five days a week.
00:15:07.180 The state of Texas has decided that students should learn about who carried out the 9-11 attacks,
00:15:12.160 as well as the ideology that motivated them.
00:15:14.900 The State Board of Education approved revised high school social studies standards,
00:15:19.900 requiring students to describe 9-11 as motivated by a radical Islam,
00:15:24.540 while also expanding instructions on early Islamic military campaigns, slavery, and jihad.
00:15:31.820 The standards, approved by an 8-4 margin, are scheduled to take effect in 2030.
00:15:36.920 Supporters say the language is an effort to teach history directly
00:15:39.760 rather than soften difficult and thorny subjects.
00:15:43.520 Muslim advocates and some historians object that the standards risk presenting Islam disproportionately,
00:15:49.240 but the truth hurts.
00:15:51.240 And if they want to change perceptions, perhaps they can start by rooting out terrorism within their own communities.
00:15:57.220 Islam is a global religion practiced by about 2 billion people.
00:16:01.060 And it is just a fact that the 9-11 hijackers should be a part of that religion.
00:16:05.500 Explaining Al-Qaeda without mentioning radical Islam is whitewashing the record and the truth. 0.97
00:16:10.180 That will only make us more vulnerable to threats in the future.
00:16:13.800 Texas is choosing explicit language where other school systems dominated by liberals would prefer broader terms such as terrorism or violent extremism,
00:16:22.700 while not really mentioning the ideology behind the attacks.
00:16:26.880 The choice will shape textbooks, classroom materials, and how students understand the attacks.
00:16:32.320 The left has dominated the school systems for too long, and using the classroom as a proving ground for ideology has to stop.
00:16:38.760 Now it's time for common sense to take over and start promoting the truth as well as the greatness of America and the values that will move our civilization forward. 0.95
00:16:50.200 I say calling out radical Islam is what happened on 9-11. 0.94
00:16:54.080 It is an excellent start. 1.00
00:16:55.240 And I'm among those, along with Governor George Pataki, former Mayor Rudy Giuliani, the former president of the Port Authority Policemen's Association, John McDivitt, and others, calling on Mayor Zoran Miamdami to skip the 9-11 Memorial Services celebration, or I should say dedication, this coming September 11th.
00:17:22.920 The mayor has ignored this and has, after handing a pen for which he signed the declaration over to a radical Muslim lawyer who represented people connected to the 9-11 attack, has announced that he's going to attend.
00:17:38.200 I think that is a mistake. And I predict to you right here in the Stone Zone that there will be peaceful protest if the mayor shows up at the 9-11 ceremonies at the end of the week.
00:17:49.460 I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to The Stone Zone. We'll be right back with more.
00:17:53.340 When we come back, we'll talk about what's going on in the Ukraine-Russia situation where the president has just sent his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and his longtime friend, Steve Witkoff, who have been successful in the past.
00:18:06.480 Jared Kushner deserves credit for the Abraham Accords in the first Trump administration.
00:18:11.080 Perhaps he can bring us peace in this war, too.
00:18:14.380 Roger Stone on The Stone Zone. Be right back.
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00:18:49.460 this is the stone zone now get in the zone it's the stone zone a man who's gone through hell
00:19:02.060 but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him not everybody but
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00:19:13.560 Welcome back into the Stone Zone.
00:19:17.260 Well, as President Trump has dispatched his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and his longtime friends, Dave Witkoff,
00:19:24.040 and shuttled diplomacy between Russia and Ukraine and yet another bid to end that costly and deadly war.
00:19:31.240 The people of Ukraine are growing increasingly tired of President Volodymyr Zelensky's corruption scandals and his internal disputes.
00:19:38.180 A recent SOCIS survey, that's a polling company in Ukraine, conducted in late July and early August, found substantial public dissatisfaction at the diminutive administration seems to fall apart.
00:19:54.840 Prosecutor General Ruslan Kravchenko resigned this week,
00:19:58.860 amidst an anti-corruption investigation involving a subordinate accused of facilitating a bribery and Monday laundering scheme within the Zelensky administration.
00:20:08.500 Kravchenko has not been charged yet, but earlier this summer,
00:20:11.840 Zelensky's dismissal of popular defense minister, Mikhailo Fodorov,
00:20:17.160 figured rare wartime protests in Kyiv, and previous attempts to weaken anti-corruption
00:20:22.000 bodies also produced public demonstrations before the government was forced to change course.
00:20:27.740 Now, of course, that means the Ukraine has turned against the war effort as they remain
00:20:31.140 united against the Russian aggressors. Reuters reports continued strong opposition to
00:20:36.160 territorial concessions by Ukraine. A recent poll found that 57 percent preferred waiting until the
00:20:43.080 war ends before holding an election. But still, they're getting sick of Zelensky's shenanigans.
00:20:48.260 Corruption investigations, unpopular personnel decisions, and fatigue after more than four
00:20:53.820 bitter years of war are creating pressure that can no longer be suppressed. History is, of course,
00:20:59.780 replete with men in power who thought they were completely untouchable, who were then humbled and
00:21:04.000 dragged into the streets and brought to justice by their own people. Perhaps if Zelensky does not
00:21:08.400 want to join this list, he should consider stepping down or holding an election while he's still able
00:21:12.640 to Brussels or some other globalist hub where he could still be welcomed.
00:21:18.480 Meanwhile, Bad Bunny's halftime show collected seven Emmys.
00:21:22.700 I can't believe it, but his ghettoized, third-worldest Super Bowl halftime show 0.97
00:21:27.840 has won seven Emmys, including one of the year's most argued-over cultural spectacles of all time, 0.90
00:21:34.200 turning into one of television's most decorated live productions.
00:21:38.200 Television Academy says the show won all seven categories in which it was nominated,
00:21:41.880 including outstanding variety, special, directing, choreography, music direction, lighting, sound mixing, and technical direction.
00:21:50.640 The predominantly Spanish-language performance drew widespread outrage as NFL spit in the face of its most dedicated fans yet.
00:21:59.380 Once again, it should come as no surprise the Emmys would reward this sort of vulgar display.
00:22:04.380 It's kind of their way of telling President Trump supporters this country is no longer theirs,
00:22:07.880 that the invading hordes have conquered and that, well, the American people like us were powerless to do anything about it
00:22:13.840 except for sit back and watch.
00:22:16.260 The contrast with the Turning Point USA's all-American halftime show is revealing in a different kind of way.
00:22:22.980 That counter-programming by Turning Point USA, that is the late Charlie Kirk's organization,
00:22:29.660 which featured Kid Rock, Brantley Gilbert, Lee Bryce, and Gabby Barrett,
00:22:34.260 opened with the national anthem and drew more than 6 million concurrent YouTube views.
00:22:40.100 That's impressive.
00:22:41.360 It demonstrated that a substantial alternative audience exists for entertainment built around patriotism,
00:22:47.540 country music, and themes that leftists would rather bury.
00:22:51.100 In a fair and just world, of course, it is the All-American Half-Time Show that would have won all these awards.
00:22:57.880 But just by competing and fighting back against the NFL,
00:23:00.840 Well, they show that there is a market for wholesome programming. 0.56
00:23:04.040 We have to continue to fight back and can never accept that we will be replaced by, in our country, no matter how many awards they give to Bad Bunny or any other vulgar cultural trash merchants out there.
00:23:16.020 Meanwhile, the Southern Poverty Law Center's federal criminal case will stay tied to the case of former senior official Heidi Barich after a judge rejected the organization's attempt to split the two trials.
00:23:28.560 A federal jury has charged at the Southern Poverty Law Center with fraud, money laundering, and conspiracy offenses, while a later superseding indictment added Behrich as a defendant on conspiracy counts.
00:23:41.360 If I have to remind you, the Southern Poverty Law Center is the operation that would essentially fund neo-Nazi and Klan activities so that they could go out and then raise money to oppose them.
00:23:52.480 It was a massive financial political scam.
00:23:55.560 scam. Prosecutors allege the organization actually used fictitious entities and financial
00:24:01.380 arrangements connected to payments involving extremists involved with groups like, oh,
00:24:05.880 the American Nazi Party and the Ku Klux Klan. Reminds me of something a retired FBI agent once
00:24:11.300 told me. He said if you went to a Klan meeting and there were 10 people, eight of them would be
00:24:15.340 federal FBI informants. The Southern Poverty Law Center says those payments were legitimate
00:24:20.540 informant activity intended to combat extremism, but very few, including me, are buying that
00:24:26.460 rationale. Both the organization and the former CEO, Bayrich, have pledged not guilty to the
00:24:32.720 charges. U.S. District Judge Emily Marx ruled that a joint trial would reduce the risk of
00:24:37.400 inconsistent verdicts and move that trial to February 1st so that Bayrich's lawyers would
00:24:42.500 have adequate preparation time, in my opinion, just delaying the inevitable. The Southern Poverty
00:24:47.840 Law Center has spent decades influencing public debate by labeling organizations and individuals
00:24:53.120 they disagree with as extremists or hateful. I know, I ended up on their list. So did Charlie
00:24:58.840 Kirk. So did many patriots. They said that Christian conservative groups were, by definition,
00:25:04.500 extremists. Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA are a perfect example. They fanned the flames 0.63
00:25:10.080 while allegedly giving aid and support to the worst of the worst. Prosecutors still have to
00:25:14.860 approve of the financial scheme they describe in a court of law, of course, and the defense will
00:25:18.860 have the opportunity to explain those payments in accounting. But they've already been deemed
00:25:22.480 guilty in the court of public opinion. Their entire operation has been exposed to the public
00:25:26.700 and they will never again get back that lost reputation or that ability to scam the little 0.61
00:25:32.640 old ladies who are sending in 25 bucks to fight the Klan. Trump administration has defined one
00:25:38.060 of the most despicable leftist groups in existence and they frankly deserve kudos for this tremendous
00:25:43.500 accomplishment let the trial proceed. Nearly a four-hour documentary about Elon Musk has
00:25:50.500 premiered at the Venice Film Festival, and its framing leaves little doubt that director Alex
00:25:55.480 Gibney is yielding a hatchet and wants to bring Musk down a few pegs. The film, entitled Musk,
00:26:01.840 examines Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter X, government contracts, and Musk's political evolution,
00:26:07.820 including his support for President Donald Trump. Gibney has described Musk as an extraordinarily
00:26:13.160 powerful figure, argues in the film that much of his influence comes from his ability
00:26:17.320 to sell ambitious visions of the future. The documentary
00:26:21.180 includes sharply critical commentary, of course, including descriptions of Musk as a man
00:26:25.420 who has, quote-unquote, lost his mind. Musk wisely
00:26:29.060 declined to participate and has called the project a hit piece. I have
00:26:33.160 some experience with Mr. Gibney. He once tried to do a
00:26:36.560 documentary extolling the virtues of Elliot Spitzer, the governor
00:26:41.280 of New York who was later disgraced in a prostitution scandal. So my view, Musk was probably
00:26:48.200 wise not to cooperate because this was a hit piece. This conflict is built into the film's
00:26:54.360 marketing. Musk is one of the most consequential entrepreneurs of the century with companies that
00:26:59.380 have transformed electronic vehicles, commercial spaceflight, and satellite communications. But
00:27:04.580 he's also a political actor, owner of a major communications platform, and a government
00:27:09.500 contractor whose business intersects repeatedly with public policy. In my opinion, Elon Musk has
00:27:15.440 done more for free speech to the First Amendment than anyone other than the founding fathers
00:27:19.700 themselves. By the way, you can find me at Roger J. Stone Jr. That's Roger J. Stone Jr. I'm over
00:27:25.780 there at X, only because Elon Musk gave me my voice back. Elon Musk is one of the most consequential
00:27:32.120 men of our generation and frankly deserves the respect. The documentary's framing will be
00:27:36.280 evidence that the verdict is well written and well in advance. It's a hit piece. Musk committed
00:27:41.420 the cardinal sin in the eyes of the leftist cultural movers. He supported President Donald
00:27:46.200 Trump and now be dragged through the mud for the rest of his life. But here's the good news.
00:27:50.580 He has announced that his America PAC will spend at least $100 million on the upcoming 2026
00:27:57.760 midterm elections. And because he is the richest man on the planet, it could end up being
00:28:02.940 substantially more. He's already poured a substantial amount of money into the Texas
00:28:07.040 Senate race between Ken Pexton and James Tallarico. That was just this week. I think there's more
00:28:12.980 where that came from. So if you don't have to go see this documentary on Elon Musk, frankly,
00:28:20.600 I wouldn't recommend it. Nearly one year after Charlie Kirk was assassinated at Utah Valley
00:28:25.580 University, his widow, Erica Kirk, has written about it and how it has impacted her family life.
00:28:30.460 In an essay for the New York Times, she recounts returning to their children, avoiding parts of the home she shared with her husband and learning to endure grief in small increments.
00:28:40.020 One piece of advice came from Usha Vance, wife of our vice president, who told her to focus on getting through the next 15 minutes rather than imagining the rest of her life at once.
00:28:51.040 Charlie Kirk was a very good to me. He was taken, as you know, taken out by a shooter in Utah.
00:28:59.220 Kirk has since, Erica Kirk has since taken over the leadership of Turning Point USA while
00:29:04.340 raising their children as the first anniversary of her husband's death rapidly approaches.
00:29:09.280 She's been a lightning rod for controversy since that day, with many reprehensible conspiracy
00:29:14.160 theories blaming her for her husband's death. I find that despicable. While criticism of
00:29:19.580 Turning Point USA's direction in the post-Charlie Kirk era is warranted, perhaps dragging a grieving
00:29:24.760 widow through the dirt is low, even for today's politics. The truth of the matter is that Charlie
00:29:30.140 Kirk was assassinated. It was done to shut him up and to make sure his influence on politics
00:29:34.940 would no longer be felt. The MAGA movement feels the weight of his absence every single day,
00:29:39.800 as do I. I didn't even know Charlie Kirk until he reached me and became an advocate that I be
00:29:45.000 pardoned when they sought to frame me in the Russian collusion hoax, in which they wanted
00:29:49.500 to send me to prison for seven to nine years for covering up the Russian collusion that we now,
00:29:54.380 of course, no, never really happened. But nobody hurts more over the loss of Charlie, of course,
00:30:00.160 than his widow. Their family will never be the same. Years of memories have been robbed from
00:30:04.720 them. Children will grow up without a loving father. And the left had their way. They would
00:30:08.680 do it to each and every one of us. Let's be candid. That's why we must stand up and fight for our
00:30:13.420 beliefs. Because if we do not fight for our beliefs, we will curse ourselves later when
00:30:17.320 these socialists are in control. Meanwhile, King Charles, who is a great dresser, even though I
00:30:23.160 don't care for his politics, has sent the royal equivalent of a carefully worded office memo to
00:30:28.800 Prince Harry and Meghan that they should remain members of the family, but they aren't to come
00:30:34.160 back on the staff. A letter issued the king's direction to senior British government and
00:30:39.180 military officials reaffirmed the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are non-working royals and should be
00:30:44.660 treated as private citizens in their commercial and charitable activities. Their HRH styles remain
00:30:52.280 unused, their charitable work is not official royal work, and the letter questions involving
00:30:57.080 public resources or formal representation and how they'll be rooted through the palace.
00:31:02.140 Harry and Meghan are reportedly surprised how little advance note they received, given
00:31:07.180 this note from the king.
00:31:08.760 Perhaps they thought they would be brought back in and could just take up where they
00:31:12.820 left off.
00:31:13.360 Unfortunately for them, it appears that King Charles holds a grudge.
00:31:17.140 The modern monarchy survives by drawing a bright line between the crown as a public institution and relatives of the monarch who pursue private lives.
00:31:27.220 Harry and Meghan chose financial independence, commercial freedom, and they distanced themselves from their official duties in 2020 when they thought that was going to help their rise to stardom.
00:31:39.320 Turns out those calculations were wrong.
00:31:41.120 Now they're learning that independence does not preserve the privilege of representational authority attached to being a working royal.
00:31:48.580 The principle underneath the royal soap opera is kind of old-fashioned.
00:31:52.600 Public status comes with obligations, restrictions, and accountability.
00:31:57.240 Once somebody steps away from those obligations, the institution has an interest in preventing private celebrity from being confused with official authority.
00:32:05.560 And considering how quickly that celebrity has waned,
00:32:09.020 Harry and Meghan Markle in recent years,
00:32:11.620 they might be willing to cut their losses
00:32:13.420 and be living their lives in less privileged obscurity.
00:32:18.260 Meanwhile, President Trump has signed out Bombardier
00:32:20.920 in the escalating child fight with Canada,
00:32:23.160 saying that the Canadian aircraft maker
00:32:24.820 could lose access to American markets
00:32:27.180 unless it builds more of its planes here in the United States. 0.98
00:32:30.200 His message is a reminder to all foreign companies
00:32:32.960 that access to 340 million American consumers is itself a national asset
00:32:38.580 and that Washington can and should use that access to influence
00:32:42.240 where factories, supply chains, and skilled workers are located.
00:32:46.140 Bombardier says it already employs thousands of workers in the United States
00:32:49.320 and it spends heavily with American suppliers.
00:32:52.340 But any actual salesman will require legal and regulatory implementation
00:32:56.160 beyond just a social media declaration.
00:32:59.440 But President Trump's strong words are kind of putting them on notice.
00:33:02.960 Like Theodore Roosevelt, Trump knows how to use the media to send a message.
00:33:07.620 Bombardier aircraft are embedded in American regional aviation,
00:33:11.140 and the company uses U.S.-made engines and a large American supplier network.
00:33:15.620 So a sudden ban would hit U.S. airlines, workers, and suppliers along with Canada.
00:33:20.060 The President knows that.
00:33:21.800 Senator Jerry Moran of Kansas has highlighted Bombardier's workforce in Wichita
00:33:26.140 and urged the administration to consider those ties.
00:33:29.260 But President Trump isn't afraid to use leverage at his disposal
00:33:31.760 to help American manufacturing, even if it causes some short-term destruction.
00:33:36.440 This is just the president sending a message.
00:33:39.200 I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to The Stone Zone.
00:33:41.280 Don't go away because, well, we'll be right back.
00:33:44.900 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:33:48.180 And he's a great, great person, Roger Stone.
00:33:52.000 The Stone Zone.
00:34:01.760 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative
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00:34:19.340 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:34:23.160 Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.
00:34:27.080 Roger Stone was persecuted.
00:34:28.300 People forget he's actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.
00:34:31.180 Now, get him a zone. It's the Stone Zone. Here's Roger Stone.
00:34:38.420 Welcome back to the Stone Zone.
00:34:42.580 Well, self-described Democratic Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders.
00:34:47.040 Notice how Bernie used to criticize millionaires and billionaires, but he no longer criticizes billionaires, millionaires.
00:34:55.180 He just criticizes billionaires. That's because Bernie Sanders and his wife became millionaires by skimming media placement fees off his two presidential campaigns, which, by the way, is not illegal.
00:35:07.200 The fact that he did not disclose it to his donors, I think, is immoral or at a minimum dishonest.
00:35:13.180 But Comrade Bernie, who talks constantly about wealth and oligarchs, attacks Elon Musk for being successful and wealthy, well, he's driving the top of the line Mercedes, and he's got at least three homes, including one vacation home in Vail, Colorado.
00:35:29.320 He now has announced a new legislation that would ban artificial superintelligence.
00:35:34.740 It's called the Ban Artificial Superintelligence Act legislation to permanently ban the development and deployment of artificial superintelligence.
00:35:43.900 The measure would also pause advanced AI until a cabinet-level regulator writes new rules and threatens companies with so-called corporate death penalty and individuals with up to 20 years in prison.
00:35:55.500 The full text of Senator Sanders' bill has not yet been released.
00:36:00.640 This goes well beyond the AI oversight path already taking shape inside the Trump White House,
00:36:05.760 which includes voluntary pre-release federal reviews and talks about a government-supervised independent organization to conduct these reviews.
00:36:14.160 President Trump actually discussed this idea last month with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg.
00:36:18.940 That was widely reported at the time in Politico.
00:36:21.660 The Trump administration's stated goal is to keep the United States ahead of China, not to freeze the field while America invents a new bureaucracy.
00:36:30.540 Private American companies have already poured enormous sums into advanced chips, computing, and frontier models, and this administration's stated game is to keep that lead, not freeze it.
00:36:40.560 Sanders is reaching for a familiar play from the socialist playbook.
00:36:44.140 Take a emerging technology, declare the private sector too dangerous to be trusted, and hand power over some new federal agency.
00:36:53.500 His Ban Artificial Superintelligence Act would outlaw systems said to surpass human intelligence, threaten government overthrow, or resist a shutdown command.
00:37:03.000 Terms that are eased still fiercely consistent, even among some researchers.
00:37:07.260 The office summary also covers systems that match human-level performance across a broad range of tasks.
00:37:13.460 And that can easily be modified to get there, not only system, but already surpass humans.
00:37:18.900 Politico has noted that obvious political problems defining superintelligence, getting ambitious legislation through a Congress that is barely in session, and the near certain opposition of the labs whose models now drive their valuations.
00:37:31.880 Actually, Daniel Castro, president of the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation,
00:37:37.780 slammed Sanders' proposal as a profound mistake that would only benefit communist China.
00:37:44.320 Advanced AI presents real questions that policymakers should continue to take seriously,
00:37:48.500 but its benefits are already tangible, while many of the most dire risks remain.
00:37:54.880 Totally speculative, he said in a statement.
00:37:57.120 America should lead in advanced AI instead of trying to ban it.
00:38:00.240 This is not Sanders' first attempt to hit the brakes. He was one of the first members of Congress to call for a national moratorium on data center construction, an idea later written into legislation along with Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. That idea has stirred bipartisan friction.
00:38:19.560 Here's the point about data centers.
00:38:21.760 People oppose data centers for two reasons.
00:38:24.060 One, they think that they will utilize local water causing a water shortage,
00:38:29.100 or that they will tap into the grid and therefore cause an increase in utility prices.
00:38:34.920 Here's what they don't understand, and that is any data center can be run with a closed loop die cut
00:38:43.340 cooling generator that does not utilize any incoming local water, and also a closed loop
00:38:53.000 to provide the electronic energy. There are at least three technologies that are completely
00:38:57.960 closed loop, meaning that a data center would not have to tap into the grid and would not
00:39:03.040 cause an increase in the local utility rates for consumers. Therefore, data centers need to be
00:39:11.100 looked at in terms of both these two closed-loop systems, and then the jobs and the benefits are
00:39:17.760 obvious. I'm Roger Stone, listening to The Stone Zone. I hope I cleared up data centers for you.
00:39:22.520 We'll be back tomorrow. Until then, God bless you and Godspeed.
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