The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - September 10, 2026


Subpoenas, Spooks, and Late-Night Snoozes

Bernie Sanders vs. The Super Robots Charlie Kirk, The Midterms, And Iran

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00:00:00.460 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:00:17.640 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:00:21.380 People love him and respect him, Roger Stone.
00:00:24.060 Now, get in the zone. It's The Stone Zone.
00:00:27.880 Here's Roger Stone.
00:00:30.000 You are now jumping headfirst into the Stone Zone.
00:00:34.880 Well, the Russian collusion hoax, which if you're a regular listener of the Stone Zone, you know, I believe is the greatest single abuse of power, the greatest single dirty trick in American political or governmental history in which the full authority of the United States government and the incredible capabilities of our intelligence agencies were used to try to undo a duly elected president and end his presidency,
00:01:00.640 may be finally moving to the accountability and justice phase.
00:01:06.020 The mainstream media, in concert with the Democrats, still continue to hold out this myth
00:01:12.400 that Russia somehow interfered in our 2016 election, for which there is no basis of fact at all.
00:01:20.380 In fact, when you press those on the left, like Adam Schiff, for example,
00:01:25.560 They will say, oh, well, the proof of that is that Donald Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, was giving proprietary polling information from the Trump campaign to Konstantin Kalemnik, who was a Russian intelligence asset.
00:01:40.220 After $30 million, that's what you found.
00:01:42.260 By the way, the Trump campaign had no proprietary polling information immediately after the convention.
00:01:47.320 And Konstantin Kalemnik, who they now claim was a Russian intelligence asset, was in fact a U.S. intelligence asset.
00:01:55.980 Oh, but there was a minor Facebook campaign by some Russian entity that spent less than $5 million that supposedly changed the results of a campaign in which well over $1 billion was spent.
00:02:11.520 No, that's part of the same kind of cover-up, but now the Justice Department's investigation into the origins and the handling of the Trump-Russia inquiries has moved deeper into the grand jury phase.
00:02:23.620 Breaking this morning, a story by the Associated Press, still quite biased by the way, but prosecutors in Florida have reportedly issued a new round of subpoenas, shifting parts of the inquiry from voluntary interviews to now seeking compelled testimony.
00:02:38.480 Former CIA Director John Brennan has, by his own lawyers, been identified as a potential target.
00:02:45.600 Not surprising because it was John Brennan who took the so-called Steele dossier.
00:02:51.700 That is a fake report financed by Hillary Clinton, put together by a former British intelligence agent,
00:02:59.320 which claimed falsely that Donald Trump had misbehaved with Russian prostitutes when visiting Moscow as a private businessman.
00:03:07.400 The government knew at the time of Robert Mueller's appointment that that was a fraud. The government knew and John Brennan specifically knew when he put that into the footnotes of the intelligence community assessment daily report to Barack Obama as a rationale for the entire Russian collusion investigation and the appointment of Robert Mueller that it was a fraud.
00:03:33.380 John Brennan was the ringleader of the greatest dirty trick in American political history.
00:03:39.460 Investigators are now examining whether intelligence and law enforcement officials
00:03:42.640 cross legal and constitutional lines while scrutinizing Donald Trump and his associates.
00:03:47.700 Now, the reason that this grand jury is in Florida, although this massive scandal began in Washington,
00:03:54.300 is because it is a continuing seditious conspiracy.
00:03:57.980 Those are the words of Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence,
00:04:02.280 when she declassified the documents that absolutely proved beyond any doubt whatsoever
00:04:08.040 that the Russian collusion matter was a conspiracy, was a hoax, run by Barack Obama,
00:04:15.120 cheered on by Joe Biden, but actually put into action by John Brennan, as well as FBI Director
00:04:22.040 James Comey, Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, the National Security Advisor Susan Rice, and others.
00:04:29.820 President Trump went through three years of the Russian collusion investigation, which hampered his first term in office.
00:04:37.920 Then, of course, the two completely fraudulent impeachment inquiries.
00:04:43.240 Once again, Tulsi Gabbard declassified the documents, proving that those were all baseless and politically motivated.
00:04:49.720 In one case, the so-called Ukrainian impeachment inquiry was both offensive and defensive.
00:04:54.840 They were accusing Donald Trump of trying to muscle the president of Ukraine for facts about Hunter Biden, when what they were really trying to do was hide the fact that Joe Biden, as vice president, had withheld $1 billion of aid meant for Ukraine, unless the Ukrainians agreed to fire the prosecutor who was investigating his son, Hunter Biden, and his keys to ties to Burisma, the Ukrainian energy company.
00:05:24.840 Then, of course, you have the 2020 election, about which there are many questions regarding anomalies, irregularities, and at least evidence of outright fraud, all the way over to the so-called documents case, in which it appears to me that someone at the FBI, someone in the globalist realm, wanted to get back documents that Donald Trump had every right to hold onto under the Presidential Documents Act that proves everything that I'm telling you right now is true.
00:05:53.820 and therefore they raided his home in Mar-a-Lago.
00:05:57.640 That brings the jurisdiction right to South Florida.
00:06:01.380 What that means in turn is that you will get an honest judge and an honest grand jury
00:06:06.320 and an honest jury when these cases go to trial.
00:06:09.260 I can tell you from personal experience, having been a target of the Russian collusion hoax
00:06:13.440 where they tried to pressure me into lying,
00:06:15.940 that you'll never get a fair trial or a fair shake from a D.C. judge or a D.C. grand jury.
00:06:22.140 Based on the exhaustive amount of information that has been declassified and released, it should now actually be an open and shut case for the grand jury to bring charges to these discraped deep state spooks of the entire Obama-Biden era.
00:06:35.620 We've had several false starts here.
00:06:37.740 John Durham's report.
00:06:39.340 Remember that?
00:06:39.800 Special Counsel John Durham.
00:06:41.460 He was appointed by Attorney General Bill Barr.
00:06:44.720 But what they don't tell you is that John Durham never had subpoena power.
00:06:48.640 He never had the ability to compel anybody to talk.
00:06:51.180 So John Brennan and James Comey could just tell him to pound sand, and they essentially did.
00:06:58.100 Then you had the inspector general's report.
00:07:00.540 That was the inspector general of the Justice Department.
00:07:03.860 He seemed to miss a number of the key elements that were exposed by Tulsi Gabbard.
00:07:09.920 So for years, arguments over Russiagate, intelligence assessments, surveillance, and federal investigative power were fought through congressional hearings.
00:07:17.500 and the weak investigations, including those by Durham and the inspector general.
00:07:23.120 But many, many more important facts have now been unearthed.
00:07:26.060 There's been a little movement in terms of actual criminal indictments.
00:07:29.400 As someone who faced a criminal indictment and whose life was saved by Jesus Christ and by Donald Trump in that order,
00:07:37.020 because I refused to lie and refused to bear witness, false witness against the president,
00:07:41.940 I can tell you that this isn't about revenge and retaliation.
00:07:46.100 This is about accountability and justice. A grand jury can now change what has been a two-tiered justice system. Prosecutors can compel witnesses and documents, and they can develop admissible evidence backing up a criminal indictment.
00:08:00.120 The time for action is now. We've been waited with bated breath for almost two years as Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Rosenstein, McCabe, and the rest of these low lives are still free men.
00:08:11.520 If they're not charged and jailed, nothing will prevent them from having the same kind of operation in the future.
00:08:17.160 Next chance they get. The grand jury must do its job and work to restore the rule of law in this country before it's too late.
00:08:23.060 There's one other key factor here, though, and that is I'm asked every day about the 2026 elections, which are far from over. 1.00
00:08:30.120 Amateurs and panikins are already ready to concede control of House to the Democrats. 1.00
00:08:34.560 I don't necessarily agree with that. 0.99
00:08:36.580 But I will tell you this.
00:08:37.520 If those who voted for Donald Trump feel that there is no justice in this matter,
00:08:42.300 then that nobody who perpetrated the greatest dirty trick, the greatest hoax on the American people in our history is held responsible.
00:08:49.580 They're far less likely to turn out and vote.
00:08:52.780 That is a key factor as we head to the 2026 elections.
00:08:57.760 Well, it looks to me like Trump hating leftist Jimmy Kimmel is nearing the end of his run as a late night host on ABC. According to TMZ, Jimmy Kimmel Live expected to end when Kimmel's current contract expires in May 2027 following an initial Page Six New York Post report that his deal would not be renewed.
00:09:17.420 TMZ is also citing staff chatter that Kimmel has been exploring other shows and podcasts, sensing that the writing is on the wall.
00:09:24.920 That's good because, frankly, he's long since no longer funny.
00:09:29.220 ABC says the account is inaccurate and calls reports about the show's future being purely speculative.
00:09:34.740 But I smell something much greater here.
00:09:37.220 Kimmel has been working on year-to-year contract basis, has openly discussed eventually leaving late night.
00:09:42.860 Seems like ABC is looking to soften the blow, perhaps diminish the perception that President Trump and his supporters have pressed them into booting Kimmel.
00:09:50.920 Frankly, it's not about that at all. It's really about ratings and it's about money.
00:09:56.120 Kimmel's program, you may remember, was temporarily suspended last year following his heinous comments and made about Charlie Kirk's killing, my good friend Charlie Kirk.
00:10:04.880 Then he returned six days later to his biggest regularly scheduled audience in more than a decade.
00:10:09.280 That bump, however, did not last.
00:10:12.140 Kimball's ratings diminished back to the doldrums almost immediately afterwards.
00:10:16.020 Meanwhile, CBS has already ended Stephen Colbert's no longer funny late show.
00:10:21.240 And traditional network Late Night continues to face shrinking audiences,
00:10:25.280 rising costs and competition from podcasts, streaming, online kips, and radio shows like this one, The Stone Zone.
00:10:32.380 The medium itself seems to be going away.
00:10:34.640 Late night television from the days of Jay Leno or Johnny Carson is just not what it used to be.
00:10:39.980 In fact, it's now almost totally and completely political and vicious at that.
00:10:45.080 The public has too many other options.
00:10:46.800 They would rather listen to, I don't know, Joe Rogan or Theo Vaughn or other podcasters
00:10:51.960 and have an honest conversation rather than issue sanctimonious lectures under a cheap veneer of comedy
00:10:58.060 and not to mention the vicious, constant vicious personal attacks on President Donald Trump.
00:11:03.840 and a bad case of Trump derangement syndrome.
00:11:08.340 ABC is correct for putting Kimmel out to pasture.
00:11:11.120 I predict right now it's about to happen.
00:11:13.620 Donald Trump can put Kimmel's proverbial scalp on the wall later this next year.
00:11:17.900 This is all about ratings and money.
00:11:19.480 It's about the fact that he's no longer funny and he's no longer entertaining.
00:11:24.040 When we come back, I want to talk about the 9-11 memorial coming up.
00:11:28.520 A group of September 11th families, first responders and retired law enforcement officers
00:11:32.860 I have now publicly asked New York Mayor Zoran Mamdami not to attend the 25th anniversary ceremony at Ground Zero.
00:11:41.500 I stand with Governor George Pataki, former Mayor Rudy Giuliani, John McDivitt, the former president of the Port Authority Police Officers Association,
00:11:52.000 And my good friend, Sid Rosenberg, when I asked the mayor to stay away, he embraces an ideology of those who attacked America on 9-11. His smirk drives me crazy. His handing the pen to a radical lawyer who represented those involved in 9-11 turned my stomach.
00:12:14.220 And if the mayor does come, and I suspect he will, I think there should be some peaceful protests.
00:12:20.200 Some have suggested turning their back on the mayor.
00:12:22.680 That would be appropriate.
00:12:23.820 Almost 100,000 people have now signed this petition, 100,000 family members or those connected to them.
00:12:30.020 I hope the mayor would listen.
00:12:31.420 I have a feeling that he will not.
00:12:33.960 You're listening to The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:12:36.700 When we get to September 11th, I'm going to talk about my own experience that day.
00:12:41.120 I'm still collecting my thoughts.
00:12:42.520 It is a day that is tattooed in my brain, is etched in my memory, and I think it is disrespectful to the families and those who went through the terrific suffering on that day for the mayor to show up with that little smirk of his.
00:12:59.580 This is The Stone Zone. I'm Roger Stone. Don't go away, because we'll be right back.
00:13:04.780 The Stone Zone. Entertaining and informative.
00:13:08.400 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:13:12.520 this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's a very very one of the smartest
00:13:26.640 political minds roger stone was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant
00:13:31.420 political analyst now get him his own it's the stone zone here's roger stone
00:13:38.080 Welcome back to the Stone Zone.
00:13:41.460 I am a political animal.
00:13:43.480 I eat, sleep, and breathe politics.
00:13:45.860 It is, other than my devotion to my God and my wife and my family,
00:13:50.500 it's the single dominant thing in my life.
00:13:53.220 And, of course, I spend all of my days reading polling
00:13:56.520 and other statistical information to try to get an assessment for the 2026 elections. 0.98
00:14:02.380 For those who have thrown in the towel, we call them panikins.
00:14:05.840 But the new Harvard-Harris poll, which is no one's idea of a conservative polling operation, shows a narrow generic margin of 5149 for Republicans in the House races.
00:14:18.100 So for those who are ready to throw in the towel, it is greatly premature.
00:14:21.600 You see, our politics are extraordinarily volatile.
00:14:24.840 So, for example, Jerry Kushner, the president's son-in-law, who I believe, by the way, deserves enormous credit for the Abraham Accords.
00:14:32.320 That's a historic peace agreement between Israel and a number of the Arab neighbors that was executed during the first Trump term.
00:14:39.900 Something, by the way, people said could never be achieved. 0.99
00:14:42.220 But Jared Kushner really shepherded that and was nominated for a Nobel Prize for doing so, rightly so.
00:14:49.580 But he and Steve Witkoff, who's a close friend of the president's and a very savvy businessman and a great negotiator, have been conducting shuttle diplomacy between Russia and Ukraine.
00:14:59.700 And I call this giving peace a chance
00:15:03.480 They visited first with Putin
00:15:05.920 Then they went and visited with Zelensky
00:15:08.740 Now, those conversations have not, to our knowledge, borne fruit
00:15:13.740 But it is notable that President Trump then had a follow-up one-hour phone call with Zelensky later the same day
00:15:20.800 But, if you were to have a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine
00:15:26.340 just a ceasefire not even necessarily an end of the war my question to you is how would that affect
00:15:32.440 the extraordinarily volatile 2026 elections the answer is incredibly so uh there are a number of
00:15:40.320 developments here whether they are pertain to the war in iran whether they pertain uh to the uh to
00:15:46.620 the war between russia and ukraine uh whether gasoline which today is four dollars and 19
00:15:53.360 cents, which is high, unacceptably high, I think largely driven because of the war. But what if
00:15:58.980 gasoline was to drop down below $3 by October 1st, which people who are more knowledgeable than I am
00:16:05.820 about the petroleum industry tell me is entirely possible depending on developments in Venezuela
00:16:10.900 and elsewhere. All of these things are factors that have to be taken into consideration. Michigan
00:16:15.960 is a place, for example, where I think you could have an upset where Republicans could potentially
00:16:23.120 pick up a U.S. Senate seat. We have seen systematically across the country the radical
00:16:29.500 socialist takeover of the once great Democrat Party. The once great Democrat Party of John F.
00:16:34.520 Kennedy and Harry Truman and Daniel Patrick Moynihan and Ed Koch, that Democrat Party
00:16:40.760 no longer exists. It's now been taken over by a radical clique of Islamic Marxists who want to 0.95
00:16:48.500 do away with the U.S. Senate, want to do away with the Supreme Court, who want to defund the
00:16:55.060 police, who want to close the jails. That's the true face of the Democrat Party. And moderate
00:17:00.740 Democrats, we like to call the corporate Democrats, like Chuck Schumer, for example, they are scared
00:17:06.000 to death because they now know that they cannot defeat this radical fringe in Democrat primaries. 0.75
00:17:10.980 It's not just Mamdami in New York. We've seen it in Colorado. We've seen it in Michigan. We've 0.66
00:17:15.740 across the country. And there's no room for the moderate Democrats anymore. So those who are
00:17:22.420 already giving up on the November elections, let me just tell you, you're extraordinarily premature
00:17:27.880 and you're not paying attention to the war chests of both sides. President Donald Trump and the
00:17:33.040 Republicans will have, I think before it's all over, close to $1 billion. There's already $400
00:17:38.880 million in MAGA, Inc., the President's PAC. The other three party committees have about $600
00:17:44.620 million dollars combined. That's going to make a huge difference in this November's election.
00:17:51.100 You're listening to The Stone Zone. I'm Roger Stone. We're drowning in politics and we'll be
00:17:55.480 right back. The Stone Zone. Entertaining and informative. On the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:18:03.060 this is the stone zone now get in the zone it's the stone zone a man who's gone through hell
00:18:22.260 but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him not everybody but
00:18:28.620 People love him and respect him.
00:18:30.100 Roger Stone.
00:18:31.160 Where's Roger Stone?
00:18:32.400 Here's Roger Stone.
00:18:35.600 Welcome back into the Stone Zone.
00:18:38.020 I am the ultimate political animal, and I study these races across the country, so you
00:18:44.240 don't have to.
00:18:45.720 And I'm very, very focused on the U.S. Senate race in Michigan.
00:18:50.000 This is where Abdul El-Sayed came out of nowhere from the progressive socialist wing
00:18:56.440 of the party to defeat a veteran liberal democratic congresswoman to snatch the nomination
00:19:01.760 for the U.S. Senate. Now, Democrat Michigan State Representative Karen Whistlin, a long-time 0.99
00:19:07.420 Democrat African-American who announced early this year she was leaving the party, has launched
00:19:12.720 a harsh attack on the Democrat Senate nominee, Abdul El-Sayed, and the party's progressive
00:19:17.760 wing. Speaking to Fox News, Witt said urged black voters not to treat any party as entitled
00:19:23.620 for their support and accused socialist politicians of being more racist than the KKK.
00:19:30.260 Witsett compared party leaders who assume black voters will automatically vote Democrat
00:19:34.740 to different slave owners. Witsett criticized El-Sayed directly, saying his values do not
00:19:41.760 align with hers and arguing that voters should judge candidates along faith, family, and community
00:19:47.080 rather than based on party loyalty.
00:19:50.380 El-Sayed, an Islamist and radical socialist
00:19:53.100 who inexplicably won Michigan's Democrat primary for the U.S. Senate,
00:19:57.140 although we did predict right here in the Stone Zone that he would win,
00:20:00.020 despite that the polls at the end of that race did not show that,
00:20:03.740 has said that he's not affiliated with the Democrat Socialists of America,
00:20:07.600 but if that's true, then he's cheating them out of their dues. 1.00
00:20:10.580 This is a sleight of hand from a silver-tongued Muslim 0.99
00:20:13.280 hoping to pull the wool over the eyes of Michigan's voters. 1.00
00:20:17.700 With its comparison, the Democrats to the KKK may seem a little overzealous,
00:20:21.960 but assuming their attitudes, I actually believe it's warranted. 0.99
00:20:25.700 Democrats have taken African-American votes for granted,
00:20:28.280 and they think they'll vote for them no matter what they say or do.
00:20:31.860 They're also growing more anti-Semitic and to the point where Michigan's Democrat Attorney General,
00:20:37.560 Dana Nessel, is scared for her own safety and could not attend the party convention.
00:20:42.520 Dana Nessel is an extreme leftist herself.
00:20:45.480 She's not a conservative Democrat, but even she is now scared by the radical fringe in her own party.
00:20:52.380 El-Sayed represents the lurch to the far left by a Democrat party that increasingly is ignoring its long-stated constituency. 0.81
00:21:00.220 With it and other black Democrats refusing to take it lying down, this is a significant development in a state where Republicans really have a chance to pick up a U.S. Senate seat. 0.61
00:21:10.320 It's very clear at this point that Mike Rogers, the former congressman, former FBI agent, is going to have more than sufficient resources. 0.94
00:21:19.900 And the Michigan Senate race is an important one, along with Texas, to watch.
00:21:24.600 Meanwhile, a juror from the Lindsay Clancy murder trial has given an extraordinary explanation of how she moved from believing that Clancy was criminally responsible for killing her three children to favoring a not guilty by reason of insanity verdict.
00:21:40.700 Juror number five told WBZ-TV that she initially thought Clancy was guilty and in her words, maybe I still believe that in a certain way.
00:21:51.640 that's troubling. The juror stated that she came to believe that a not guilty verdict was the only
00:21:56.820 way Clancy received the mental health treatment she needed. The trial ended in an 11 to 1 deadlock
00:22:03.680 and missed trial after seven long days of deliberations. Clancy has admitted strangling
00:22:09.680 Cora, Dawson, and Callan, her three children. Her defense argued postpartum psychosis made her
00:22:16.320 legally not responsible. My hat's off to that one male juror who evidently held out from the very
00:22:23.640 beginning against a majority insisting that he vote to equip. He would not do so. This poor guy
00:22:31.260 must have gone through extraordinary pressure, but I believe wherever he is tonight, he knows he did
00:22:36.900 the right thing. This interview with the juror deserves scrutiny because it's a juror's job
00:22:41.920 to apply the law and the evidence, not to design the defendant's post-trial treatment plan.
00:22:49.300 The juror also expressly said reasonable doubt drove her conclusion,
00:22:53.040 and she believed convincing, despite the doubt, would violate Clancy's rights.
00:22:58.240 Other female jurors publicly criticized that lone holdout who favored conviction,
00:23:02.660 while the foreperson has accused him during deliberations of failing to apply the judge's reasonable doubt instructions.
00:23:09.420 they attempted to get the holdout
00:23:11.780 juror thrown off the jury so
00:23:13.660 they could essentially clear this child killer
00:23:15.680 responsibility. Ladies 0.99
00:23:17.640 and gentlemen, we have reached the end 1.00
00:23:19.740 game of feminism. Accepting a baby 1.00
00:23:21.880 murderer, someone who 0.54
00:23:23.660 killed three children, has 0.96
00:23:25.780 morphed into accepting 0.74
00:23:27.940 child murdering outside the womb. 0.74
00:23:29.720 What was once acceptable, abortion, 0.94
00:23:31.940 is now acceptable outside the womb. 0.86
00:23:34.020 In this case, the murder of three children.
00:23:36.320 The cultural personality which
00:23:37.660 developed around Lindsay Clancy, which apparently even spread to the jury, is nothing short of
00:23:43.120 demonic. The fact that this is a mistrial means that the case can be tried again. I hope prosecutors
00:23:49.160 will do so. Meanwhile, Lonnie Bunch, the secretary of the Smithsonian Institution, since 2019 will
00:23:56.940 retire at the end of the year, creating a leadership vacancy during an intense fight
00:24:01.660 about how America's museums present our country's history.
00:24:06.380 Bunch spent decades at the Smithsonian
00:24:08.620 and was the founding director of the National Museum of African American History and Culture,
00:24:14.360 a locus of wokeism and DEI revisionism.
00:24:17.500 His departure comes as the Trump administration presses its
00:24:20.640 Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History initiative,
00:24:24.300 which has frequently criticized left-wing activist interpretations of American history
00:24:28.880 in various Smithsonian exhibits.
00:24:31.660 the Smithsonian, and its apologists argue that museums must preserve scholarly independence
00:24:38.860 and present difficult chapters of American history honestly.
00:24:43.060 But there's nothing independent about their far-left flag that is swept through our national institutions,
00:24:48.020 and that there's nothing to say that their interpretation of history is at all honest.
00:24:52.680 What it is, is politically correct.
00:24:55.200 I would note, just as a small point, that they had an exhibition recently in which they said, 0.54
00:24:59.700 flatly, as a matter of fact, President Richard Nixon was impeached. President Richard Nixon was
00:25:04.940 not impeached. President Richard Nixon resigned from the presidency to avoid impeachment. He might
00:25:10.740 have been impeached had he not resigned, but he was not impeached. These are historians. Should
00:25:14.740 they not get it right? You see, it was more important to blacken the name of Nixon, who I
00:25:20.220 think is getting a little bit of a re-examination among the public, which is something I've worked
00:25:25.420 for it for 30 years. But I use that just as one example of how the Smithsonian is giving you a
00:25:31.340 politically concocted, politically correct version of history. The succession battle now for this
00:25:38.000 position will matter because the Smithsonian is neither an ordinary museum chain nor a normal
00:25:44.100 executive agency. It's a federally supported national institution overseen by a board of
00:25:48.940 regents that includes the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the Vice President, members of
00:25:53.880 Congress and a couple of private citizens. That structure gives it significant insulation from
00:25:58.860 direct presidential control, even as federal funding creates political leverage. In other
00:26:04.460 words, folks, these museums are being paid for with our tax dollars. Shouldn't their version
00:26:09.660 of history just simply be the truth? That has not stopped President Trump, of course, from using the
00:26:15.360 bully pulpit of his office from having a major impact on things at the Simplonium. Bunch's
00:26:21.020 retirement indicates that there is a changing of the guard at that institution. If Bunch is not
00:26:25.760 replaced with a true patriot who understands the need to celebrate Americans exceptionalism and
00:26:31.260 greatness, that individual will be the next one put in the pressure cooker from an administration
00:26:35.480 that will not tolerate unpatriotic behavior or a DEI sensitized version of America's history.
00:26:45.180 Meanwhile, roughly 200,000 Salvadorians living in the United States under temporary protected status have reached a deadline that exposes one of the strangest features of American immigration policy, a program called Temporary that has lasted for a quarter of a century.
00:27:02.760 El Salvador received the temporary protected status after devastating earthquakes back in 2001, which allowed qualifying nationals of that country already in the United States to live and work legally while conditions at home were considered unsafe. Seems reasonable.
00:27:20.140 But the current designation was extended through September 9, 2026.
00:27:25.920 The Trump administration has already terminated or attempted to terminate this temporary protected status for more than one million people from numerous countries.
00:27:35.000 Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen now faces the same decision on El Salvador,
00:27:40.100 whose security conditions have changed dramatically under President Nayib Bukele,
00:27:47.220 who actually is a friend of mine, sends me coffee every month.
00:27:50.680 Coffee, he's also a close ally of President Donald Trump.
00:27:54.620 Went from being one of the most unsafe countries in the world
00:27:56.940 to perhaps the safest nation in the hemisphere,
00:28:01.400 thanks to Bukele's visionary leadership and his toughness.
00:28:04.500 Many Salvadorans, who are temporary holders of this temporary status, have spent most of their adult lives in the United States, built businesses, bought homes, and raised. 0.82
00:28:19.440 That's because of their status. 0.89
00:28:23.060 Remittances from El Salvador abroad accounted for about 24% of El Salvador's GDP from 2025.
00:28:30.080 That is money that is leaving our shores and going to prop up another country's economy.
00:28:35.120 These folks need to go back to El Salvador and contribute to the rebuilding of their own country. 0.91
00:28:39.560 Allowing these loopholes makes a mockery of the rule of law. 0.83
00:28:43.300 If they're here illegally, they have to go back.
00:28:45.340 Temporary means temporary. Fairness means sending these El Salvadorans back where they believe. 1.00
00:28:49.780 They cannot argue they're going back to a dangerous situation.
00:28:52.800 They're going back to a safe, prosperous country where they can make a secure future.
00:28:57.860 They should be sent back.
00:29:00.080 That is my conclusion.
00:29:01.820 Meanwhile, Treasury Secretary Scott Besant, who is a good friend of mine and perhaps one of the very best of President Trump's appointees,
00:29:08.960 says that automatic enrollment is coming for Trump accounts, the tax-advantaged investment accounts created for American children under the administration's 2025 tax legislation.
00:29:21.640 Besant told a Breitbart economic forum that more than 7 million enrollments have already been recorded since the program's formal launch in July.
00:29:30.080 and said a coming change could expand eligibility enrollment dramatically, while families would still need to activate their accounts.
00:29:38.360 Under the program, qualifying children born during the covered period receive $1,000 in federal seed money,
00:29:46.080 and families can add contributions throughout the Treasury-backed platform.
00:29:50.740 The administration represents these accounts as a way to broaden long-term household participation in the equity markets.
00:29:57.620 Policy is important because it frames social policy around asset ownership rather than only annual benefits or income transfers.
00:30:06.200 In other words, it's not a social welfare program. It's an investment program.
00:30:11.240 Besson noted that a large share of America's households has no direct stake in the stock market and argues that children should begin adulthood with capital already accumulating.
00:30:22.000 This is how we make the next generation of American citizens financially literate.
00:30:27.620 Connecting working and middle-class families to long-term investment growth is how we curtail the out-of-control welfare state without instituting crippling cuts.
00:30:37.380 This exciting program's long-term significance will ultimately depend upon whether balances grow meaningful, fees remain low, and the families actually use the accounts over many years.
00:30:48.700 This could be for Republicans what Social Security has been for Democrats, a major achievement.
00:30:53.960 So if the Republicans in power and the Democrats win back the country's policy could be torpedoed or even ended, that would be a horrific mistake.
00:31:03.260 This is one of the myriad reasons why I think it is vital Republicans hold on in the midterm elections.
00:31:08.960 That is the Trump savings accounts, this incredible program, let us hope that we don't have to go back.
00:31:16.120 Meanwhile, a 27-year-old artificial intelligence researcher has resigned from the tech firm Anthropic with an ominous warning that should give us all pause about rapid technological growth and its effects on society.
00:31:29.860 One Jacob Coxon, who spent roughly three years in pre-training research in open AI and Anthropic, says that leading AI labs are racing towards self-improving superintelligence without a credible plan for controlling what they create.
00:31:46.100 Coxson wrote that people building the technology earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade
00:31:52.260 and accuse the industry of gambling with our lives.
00:31:55.440 His warning is not isolated.
00:31:57.220 This is the machines taking over is what he's talking about, folks.
00:32:00.660 Anthropic alignment science led Evan Eubinger publicly agreed that advanced AI could pose an existential danger
00:32:09.160 said he personally sees a greater than 10% chance of human extinction
00:32:13.420 within the very next decade.
00:32:16.700 Coxson's resignation matters because it comes from an inside company
00:32:20.180 that has marketed itself as unusually focused on AI safety.
00:32:25.240 It seems to me they may be blowing smoke
00:32:27.360 in an attempt to assuage the public anger about what they're really doing.
00:32:31.140 His complaint is not that today's chatbot is equally plodding humanity's destruction,
00:32:35.020 but it is a system capable of improving their own abilities
00:32:38.420 and could outrun human oversight.
00:32:41.380 I'm Roger Stone.
00:32:42.220 You're listening to The Stone Zone.
00:32:43.340 Don't go away because we'll be right back.
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00:33:02.520 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:33:06.080 Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.
00:33:10.160 Roger Stone was persecuted.
00:33:11.380 People forget he's actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.
00:33:14.460 Now, get him his own.
00:33:16.280 It's the Stone Zone.
00:33:18.360 Here's Roger Stone.
00:33:21.020 You know, I really love the commentator Adam Carolla.
00:33:25.160 It's not just the fact that he's half Italian and half Hungarian, as am I, but I think he's
00:33:29.560 a very funny but also very shrewd guy.
00:33:32.280 He offered a bleak cultural diagnosis of Los Angeles recently.
00:33:36.080 The city is going from a place that residents rarely imagine leaving to one where, in his telling, people increasingly answer anywhere else when asked where they're moving.
00:33:45.180 Speaking with my good friend Sean Hannity, Adam Carolla said the psychological barrier about leaving Southern California has collapsed and confirmed that he's preparing to leave the state himself.
00:33:56.200 The conversation ranged beyond relocation into a late-night television, political correctness, and Carolla's argument that many older comedy formats would struggle to be approved in today's entertainment industry.
00:34:09.200 His comments capture a sentiment that has become undeniable as California's taxes, housing costs, far-left governance, and weak-on-crime policies, not to mention their woke cultural climate, have caused the state to spiral into oblivion.
00:34:24.740 Los Angeles, which was once one of my favorite cities in the country, remains one of the world's largest entertainment centers, at least for the time being, but it's starting to show signs of atrophy.
00:34:35.280 California has experienced significant domestic out-migration in recent years, and entertainment productions increasingly moved to states and countries offering lower costs and tax incentives, as well as safer conditions.
00:34:47.240 That makes Adam Kroll's complaint more than just rank-and-file celebrity grumbling.
00:34:52.220 Adam Crowley, shooting straight about L.A.'s problems,
00:34:54.700 the City of Angels once sold itself as a designation.
00:34:59.020 People endured hardship to reach when long-time residents began discussing departure
00:35:03.320 without caring much about destination.
00:35:05.400 As long as they got the heck out of town pronto,
00:35:08.200 the city's brand has clearly changed and not for the better.
00:35:11.760 Mrs. Stone and I used to, every summer,
00:35:14.180 we would rent a home in either Santa Monica or Venice Beach for a solid month.
00:35:21.640 Today, I would even begin to think about doing that between the homeless, since people using outdoors as the largest, world's largest outdoor toilet, junkies shooting up on the street.
00:35:35.800 I've seen the videos. It's shocking and deeply disturbing.
00:35:39.460 It was once my favorite city, a place that I would no longer visit under any circumstances.
00:35:45.440 This summer, I'm happy to say, because I thought ahead, I booked tickets to the south of France almost a year ago,
00:35:52.080 so I didn't have to take out a mortgage to pay for them, and I stayed with friends in the south of France,
00:35:58.200 high on a mountaintop right outside of Monaco.
00:36:01.980 Monaco is an extraordinary place.
00:36:03.820 It is technically part of France, but it is a kingdom unto itself, has its own king.
00:36:09.000 In Monaco, if you try to enter Monaco and you're not well-dressed, the police will actually give you a ticket.
00:36:16.460 I kid you not.
00:36:17.900 So Steve Bannon would not do well in Monaco.
00:36:20.480 If you try driving into Monaco and your car is not washed, they'll also give you a ticket for that.
00:36:26.420 It's clean, modern.
00:36:27.900 The crime rate is almost non-existent.
00:36:31.380 And the king of Monaco has a car collection, an antique and exotic car collection, second to none.
00:36:39.180 I think they charge you about 15 bucks, the equivalent of 15 bucks to go see it.
00:36:43.760 If you get to Monaco, and it's pricey.
00:36:47.160 If I hadn't been staying with friends, if I hadn't bought my tickets a year in advance, I could never have done so.
00:36:52.780 But it was a great vacation.
00:36:54.340 On the other hand, as Benjamin Franklin said, no one needs a vacation so much as the man who has just come from one.
00:37:02.900 Los Angeles is no longer an option, unfortunately, between the high costs and the dissatisfaction.
00:37:08.900 I could not ever see myself returning there, which is a shame because cancer is delicatessen.
00:37:13.900 It used to be one of my favorite late night haunts.
00:37:17.100 I won't be getting back there again.
00:37:20.140 Thanks for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
00:37:21.960 We talk about all things politics, including the 2026 elections.
00:37:26.560 I try to give you a realistic assessment of what's coming, but the cake is not baked no matter what they tell you.
00:37:32.400 The electorate remains extraordinarily volatile and anything can happen.
00:37:37.220 Pay attention to the fact that the Republicans have substantially more resources than Democrats
00:37:42.540 and the deep fracture in today's Democrat Party between its sane corporate liberal wing and its insane socialist wing.
00:37:51.180 and you have, I think, the recipe for an upset.
00:37:55.980 I'm Roger Stone.
00:37:56.880 You've been listening to The Stone Zone.
00:37:58.020 Until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.
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