The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - September 08, 2026


Troy Smith

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00:00:55.380 Joining us now, a seasoned political analyst, Troy Smith, who is the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.News.
00:01:04.100 And we're working without a net today.
00:01:05.820 I told him he could come on and we could talk about any political topic that he wanted to.
00:01:10.480 Troy, welcome into the Stone Zone.
00:01:12.520 Roger, I just want to say welcome.
00:01:14.340 I hope you had a great vacation.
00:01:16.620 And thank you so much for having me on.
00:01:19.720 It's great to be here.
00:01:21.040 You know, Roger, we have a lot of political stuff going on right now.
00:01:23.960 But the first thing I wanted to get your opinion on is this Trump trade war with Canada.
00:01:29.700 Trump has basically said that he's not going to allow Canada to take advantage of the United States anymore.
00:01:35.240 He's gone as far as to say that he's going to rename Lake Ontario Lake America,
00:01:39.960 which has just set the mainstream media into complete apoplexy, Roger.
00:01:45.340 They are losing their minds over this.
00:01:47.140 And I want to get your thoughts.
00:01:48.080 Is this a smart, strategic move by the president?
00:01:50.800 Is he just trying to stir up the media?
00:01:52.600 What's really behind this move by Trump to assert the U.S.'s dominance over Canada in our trade position, which seems to be slanted towards Canada and has been for years? 0.97
00:02:02.260 Well, first of all, Donald Trump, of course, is the master troll.
00:02:05.300 And that is what I think he's doing here, although Google Maps is making a go ahead with the is going ahead with this change. 0.92
00:02:12.020 You remember when he changed the Gulf of Mexico to now is now the Gulf of America.
00:02:15.960 And if I were Mark Carney, by the way, who was a regular on Epstein Island, the current prime minister of Canada, I would be worried about the fact that two of their most prosperous states, Alberta and Saskatchewan, have very serious independence operations underfoot.
00:02:33.080 You see, under the Constitutional Constitution of Convention, any province, that's like a state, can by majority vote to fight their independence.
00:02:41.780 And Alberta and Saskatchewan, Alberta's larger, Saskatchewan's smaller, but both of them are, that's where the oil and the gas and the raw earth intramurals are.
00:02:51.860 That's where the, that is the, where the wealth, the mining of national resources, that's where the, where business is done.
00:03:01.280 And there are very active movements in both Alberta and Saskatchewan to depend, to seek their independence.
00:03:08.480 Now, if they do that, and of course, the federal government is defeating them, is fighting them, but their constitution is pretty clear.
00:03:14.680 If the votes by a majority put it on a ballot through a partition process and then a vote of a majority of people voted, those states would become independent.
00:03:22.280 They, of course, could then apply for sense to be stateship, you know, statehood, I should say.
00:03:28.300 And both Alberta and Saskatchewan, who are the two wealthiest of the two provinces in terms of natural resources and business, would become part of the United States.
00:03:39.360 This is not a pipe dream. This is a real possibility.
00:03:42.540 So if I were Mark Carney, I guess I would be a little bit more concerned with that. 0.81
00:03:45.560 But of course, the collaboration between Canada and the Chinese communists goes all back to the time that Pierre Trudeau was their leader. 0.83
00:03:57.400 One of my favorite, I was a great fan of Justin Trudeau, of course, but if you listen to one 0.67
00:04:02.540 of the White House tapes, the Watergate tapes, one that was very rarely played, it doesn't
00:04:09.300 get much coverage, but in a conversation between President Richard Nixon and his National Security
00:04:13.560 Advisor, then Henry Kissinger, he says, well, Henry, I heard, I met Pierre Trudeau last
00:04:19.420 night.
00:04:20.400 And Henry says, well, Mr. President, what did you think?
00:04:23.680 And Nixon said, well, he was one of the biggest a-holes I've ever met.
00:04:27.940 So there you have it right there.
00:04:30.160 So Trump is kind of like Theodore Roosevelt in the way.
00:04:32.920 He loves to kind of tease and troll his political enemies.
00:04:37.740 And it is, of course, is where Trump dimension syndrome comes from.
00:04:42.820 Absolutely, Roger.
00:04:44.000 And it's been prevalent throughout his first presidency and now his second presidency.
00:04:48.460 You know, an issue that we can kind of dovetail with this is Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's opinion on this fight.
00:04:56.720 He's actually called for the U.S. to drop all tariffs on Canada, essentially allowing Canada to take advantage of the American consumer at every turn, Roger.
00:05:05.820 And that's why I want to get your thoughts not only on Schumer's response to this, but, you know, it seems to me he's facing a bigger battle within his own party just to maintain control of the Senate.
00:05:15.160 Because as you've talked about and we've talked about here on the airwaves many times, whether it's AOC or Syed or many other DSA candidates throughout the Democratic Party, Senator Schumer seems to be on their hit list.
00:05:29.460 He's somebody that they're coming after.
00:05:31.300 And I want to get your thoughts on Schumer kind of attacking Trump, but really failing to recognize in public the real threat he faces of being replaced from within his own party.
00:05:40.300 Chuck Schumer has been spending an enormous amount of time in upstate New York recently.
00:05:43.740 This is a man who's running for his life.
00:05:45.880 He's also a man who realizes he has overstayed his welcome.
00:05:49.040 He recently showed up in the 21st District, where Elise Stefanik is retiring,
00:05:54.480 and Anthony Constantino won that Republican primary for a record number.
00:05:59.040 There's a local farmer, Blake Jendabean, who's really tried to hide the fact that he supported Kamala Harris.
00:06:07.400 He hid that for a while before finally admitting it.
00:06:09.500 Then he kind of got caught.
00:06:10.860 a huge amount of funding from Governor Kathy Hochul, but he put up a TV spot in which he
00:06:16.560 said he would stand up to Kathy Hochul. She immediately demanded that the Democrat candidate
00:06:20.620 take that down, showing that she is indeed a popular campaign that's been funded largely by
00:06:25.920 people from Washington, New York City, and Hollywood. And Chuck Schumer showed up recent
00:06:31.620 there with this rhetoric. You see, what he's afraid of is AOC. Now, AOC is in the catbird seat.
00:06:37.400 She can raise the money necessary for a U.S. Senate primary in the Democratic Party in New York State, or she can, of course, run for president. 1.00
00:06:45.200 She just shared her boyfriend, political consultant.
00:06:47.660 I'm not sure what to make of that.
00:06:49.640 But anyone who does not recognize the grassroots appeal among the far left and her ability to raise multi-millions of dollars need to be afraid.
00:07:00.380 In all honesty, I think that no white Catholic Democrat primary candidate can win a Democrat primary in New York City anymore, given the vast demographic changes in New York State.
00:07:13.960 I think Chuck Schumer is increasing his profile defending the pro-Chinese communist government of Canada in an effort to save his own seat in what I think will be and could be a challenge from AOC.
00:07:29.880 Well, Roger, and that leads me to my next question, because you've been involved with Republican politics for so many decades.
00:07:35.720 You've seen so many candidates come and go.
00:07:38.220 And so you uniquely understand the appeal that especially Republican candidates have to have to win in a general election, especially on the national stage.
00:07:46.380 So I want to ask you about how the Democrats are evolving as a party.
00:07:51.340 I remember in the great documentary that I encourage everybody to check out on Netflix, Get Me Roger Stone.
00:07:58.580 It's talked about in that documentary, and you've talked about many times, how the Reagan
00:08:02.420 Democrat was crucial for Ronald Reagan's election in the 1980s, twice, both times Democrats
00:08:10.380 left their party to vote for Ronald Reagan.
00:08:13.720 In the current day, Roger, do you think it's realistic for Republicans to bank on that?
00:08:17.820 And adding to that question, do you think Republicans have effectively countered the
00:08:22.080 messaging of the DSA yet heading into the midterm elections?
00:08:26.000 It's a two-part question. Let me try to answer it. First of all, the reason that Donald Trump won when Mitt Romney lost and John McCain lost is because Donald Trump has demonstrated this unique ability to vote, to win the votes of blue-collar ethnic Catholic Democrats, which, part of the old Nixon-Reagan coalition who left and voted for Bill Clinton, many of them did not return.
00:08:49.160 So he has an ability in the urban areas and in the swing states to attract those voters in a way that others do not have.
00:08:58.800 The left wing of the Democratic Party may flourish this summer as fed up liberals in key races.
00:09:04.140 The country currently has eschewed traditional, more moderate candidates in favor of hard-charging progressives.
00:09:09.400 Behind the scenes, ultra-progressive House members and candidates are pushing their own party leaders to reflect more of that mood,
00:09:16.000 arguing that Democrat leaders like Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, their allies so far,
00:09:20.840 seem to grasp the demands of the far-left voters who are show-up in droves in the summer primaries.
00:09:27.000 Liberals, I think, in that party are watching it alert in recent weeks as Jefferson publicly disavowed their marquee Medicare-for-all bill
00:09:34.880 while pro-Israel Democrats were elevated to key foreign policy roles within the Democrat caucus.
00:09:40.620 They also argue his allies were working to undermine a pair of progressive candidates in Michigan and California.
00:09:47.020 By the way, most of that is an analysis published by CNN.
00:09:51.000 So, yes, I think that the Republicans have to do a very job just just pinning the socialist label on Democrats will not do the trick.
00:10:00.300 Sadly enough, the polling shows that particularly younger voters don't really understand the difference between socialism and capitalism or they think that socialism may be superior.
00:10:10.720 But you have demonstrated another key point is that is there are Trump voters who are not Republican voters and they don't turn out when Donald Trump is on the ballot and he's not going to be off the ballot in this upcoming midterm election.
00:10:25.680 So it's up Republicans to use Trump to mobilize those voters.
00:10:31.600 This is a difference between broadcasting and narrow casting.
00:10:34.640 So I can see Republicans utilizing Trump to reach those Trump voters so they can identify email addresses and voter and mail addresses for and phone numbers for and using them to turn out in a more strategic approach to those voters.
00:10:52.000 I happen to know that the White House has tested that technology to Trump voters in some of these special elections that I think could deliver an edge.
00:11:01.820 Now, again, I think the panicans have moved much too early to declare this election.
00:11:08.060 It's interesting that that Akeem Jeffries is already talking about the the the next round of kind of recrimination and retaliation. 0.52
00:11:20.000 They're already telling us they intend to if they win the House in November, investigate Donald Trump, investigate his cabinet members, investigate his family and keep impeachment on the table.
00:11:28.560 I think it was Fox News that reported that senior Democrats are openly discussing probes of the Pentagon, defense contracts, White House spending, and alleged Trump family conflicts.
00:11:39.140 Congressman Jason Crow, who helped manage one of the earlier Trump impeachments, would not rule out impeachment again.
00:11:45.460 Should the Democrats win the House, I think you can expect it.
00:11:48.140 But remember, in the Senate, it is a two-thirds majority.
00:11:52.540 So that gives you some idea what is at stake in these upcoming elections.
00:11:56.560 The midterm is not simply about who chairs the Agriculture Committee, for example.
00:12:00.860 A Democrat house should become a subpoena factory on day one.
00:12:04.360 The same people who spent years telling Americans that President Trump was the greatest threat to democracy
00:12:08.980 are preparing another round of investigations and they say it's revenge and retaliation
00:12:15.700 when really what it is is accountability and justice.
00:12:19.260 Americans already lived through Russiagate, two phony impeachments,
00:12:22.040 and less congressional theater and lawfare designed to cripple the president politically
00:12:26.340 after opponents could not beat his agenda.
00:12:29.060 So should they win, they'll repeat that all over again 0.74
00:12:31.560 if the Democrats are able to wrestle white control of Congress from the Republicans. 0.85
00:12:35.980 So the message for November should be quite simple if you ask me.
00:12:39.220 Voters want two more years of border enforcement, tax cuts, energy production, American policy,
00:12:44.200 then they'll keep the House Republican, and that is more than possible.
00:12:47.380 You see, it really boils down to about 35 or perhaps 38 individual districts
00:12:51.920 And right now I can tell you the polling shows Republicans in ahead of every one of them.
00:12:56.860 If they want another parade of hearings, family subpoenas and impeachment circus every afternoon, well, they can vote for the Democrats.
00:13:03.540 One party is serious about helping America. 0.97
00:13:05.540 The other one is a deranged freak show on steroids.
00:13:08.680 And you will see the recriminations return.
00:13:12.060 Well, absolutely, Roger.
00:13:13.200 And I think that analysis is spot on.
00:13:14.840 And it's the antithesis of what you're hearing from James Carville and others who are kind of sounding the rallying cry, of course, trying to get everybody hyped up heading into these midterms.
00:13:25.020 They're hoping that the anti-Trump vote is going to be strong enough to carry candidates that I think in many areas lack substance.
00:13:33.340 And one of those candidates that I wanted to ask you about, because it's become such a hot button issue, and I want to preface this by saying, you know, you, Roger, know and I know that there's a lot of Republican strategists out there,
00:13:43.420 A lot of people within the political complex of this country that will tell you that, oh, this race is close and that race is close when they know it's not the case because they can make money off of the vast amounts of mailers and political advertising, whether it be through media or on the ground, wherever it may be.
00:13:59.520 And I've seen you talk about that as well.
00:14:01.620 One of the areas that strategists – I just saw Karl Rove on Fox News talking about – is Texas.
00:14:07.720 They're talking about how Texas is so close.
00:14:09.920 And, of course, we have John Cornyn, who is not heading back to the Senate.
00:14:13.820 He's going to be retired as he was defeated in the primary by Ken Paxton.
00:14:18.640 He's going up against Democrat James Tallarico in the general.
00:14:22.640 And a lot of people are saying, Roger, that this could be the year that Texas goes blue.
00:14:26.700 I feel like I have amnesia.
00:14:27.860 They say this every four years, every six years, it seems.
00:14:31.680 What's your opinion on Texas?
00:14:33.760 Is it really in danger of going blue?
00:14:35.780 what's going on in the Lone Star State. I think once voters in that state really focus on James
00:14:42.300 Tallarico, affectionately named James Talafrico by Donald Trump, he's the one that says there are
00:14:48.540 more than two genders, for example, or that a number of other really vile things that he said
00:14:55.680 that the Republicans will win. We'll come back and talk about that at the time. We're listening
00:15:00.100 to the political, we're in the political roundup here with my good friend Troy Smith, and you're
00:15:03.940 Now, it is true that the demographics of Texas are changing, but Tallarico is very, very far out of the mainstream.
00:15:13.660 And I think you said God, for example, is non-binary, said modern sites, obviously recognize that there are many more than two biological sexes, which, of course, is an absurdity.
00:15:26.160 radical white men are the greatest domestic threat in the country's history, that capitalism 0.91
00:15:32.080 is an oppressive system. By the way, I believe he's also in the great beef state of Texas. I 0.99
00:15:38.580 think he's a vegan. Jesus was anti-Trump, he said in 2019. So this guy is very far outside the
00:15:46.340 mainstream. I don't think most voters know that. And then secondarily, I made this point in the
00:15:51.040 opening. The fact that the convention, the midterm convention is happening in Texas means that even
00:15:57.960 when the national media seeks a blackout of much of what happens, the speeches by the president,
00:16:03.440 the speech by the vice president, it will get incredible coverage in Texas. And Ken Pax is
00:16:11.300 among the winners there. Also, a story earlier this week was completely wrong, said that Trump
00:16:19.340 was not going to open his $400 million war chest at MAGA, Inc.,
00:16:26.680 and that Elon Musk's America PAC was not going to spend in Texas,
00:16:32.860 when the exact opposite has happened.
00:16:34.820 We now know that Elon Musk has, in fact, opened his first initial spending.
00:16:41.100 He's began spending in the early, writing a check for $247,000 in early media speaking.
00:16:49.340 That's one week, by the way.
00:16:51.080 So I think, again, at the end, I believe Ken Paxton will win that seat over Tal Rico.
00:16:57.940 But you're right to elevate that race.
00:17:00.060 It is one the Democrats seem to think today that they have within their reach.
00:17:04.700 Well, and I think there's a fatal flaw in the Democrat theory about Texas, Roger,
00:17:08.900 and it lies in the subtle racism of the Democratic Party,
00:17:12.460 which suggests that they can win votes by moving in people from hispanic nations and they think that
00:17:20.460 people from hispanic nations are going to vote for transgenderism and for even open borders yes
00:17:27.140 it's true folks that the people who don't like illegal immigration possibly most in this country
00:17:32.300 are those who have come here legally and the democrats can't live with that fact i think
00:17:36.820 there's a lot of facts that they can't live with roger and that's why they find themselves in this
00:17:41.280 weird position you know we talked about earlier about how a lot of the dsa candidates are going
00:17:45.620 to hurt the democrats on the main stage when they get to the general election where they have to
00:17:51.340 appeal to the average american and i think that's present in a lot of candidates that they're
00:17:57.060 currently running and as we kind of look forward i know we're not even to the midterms yet roger
00:18:00.980 but i have to get your opinions on this uh hunter biden has announced that he is considering running
00:18:07.460 for president he's announced that he's going to be launching his own crypto coin in the next week
00:18:13.280 i wanted to get your thoughts on the the painter hunter biden now saying he's going to run for
00:18:18.460 president i mean just unbelievable right no he said it right here right here said it on these
00:18:22.380 very same airways uh look we should be so lucky anybody who wants to really understand him should
00:18:28.040 go to bidenreport.com that's bidenreport.com where his own laptop which by the way is not
00:18:34.120 fraudulent, which I had no role whatsoever in making public. Everything I know I read in the
00:18:39.160 New York Post shows a combination of over 400 state and federal crimes, including massive
00:18:45.540 drug use, obviously, but also massive bribery. So at this point, he's become a caricature.
00:18:52.720 Maybe, like he said in an interview with Gavin Newsom, maybe they'll put him on the ticket for
00:18:56.900 vice president. We should be so lucky. I think he was really polling, trolling. I don't think
00:19:03.660 that Hunter Biden is really going to run for president.
00:19:05.580 But if he wants to run, that would really be great.
00:19:08.300 Maybe they put him on the ticket with AOC.
00:19:10.140 That would really be terrific.
00:19:12.180 We can vote.
00:19:13.240 That would be a great, great contest
00:19:15.180 if it went down that way.
00:19:18.080 You can go, of course, to marcopolo.org
00:19:21.100 or go to bidenreport.com
00:19:23.980 and you can either download or copy,
00:19:26.320 get a copy of his actual top,
00:19:28.260 his entire top laptop content.
00:19:31.920 And I think that will be the end of any illusions that anyone would have about him being a viable candidate for president of the United States.