The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - September 29, 2026


Poopgate Strikes Back： Dave Matthews Exposed

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Dave Matthews attack on Trump environmental protection agency repeal rules
Hosted by
Roger Stone Troy Smith Jake Novak
Mentioned
Donald Trump Hillary Clinton Barry Goldwater Jr. Richard Nixon Dave Matthews Sleepy Biden Danny Williams Billy Dale Bill O'Reilly Clintons Franklin Roosevelt Warren Buffett Ronald Reagan Barack Obama Bruce Springsteen Robert Mueller La Cervita Lee Zeldin James Baker III Anna Paulina Luna and 30 more
Roger Stone on Chris Christie Burn Bags & Big Lies

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00:02:01 Thanks for joining us right now in the Stone Zone. So last week I got a package in the mail,
00:02:08 pretty big package, and I looked at the return address and it came from Barry Goldwater at an
00:02:14 address in Arizona. I thought this is obviously somebody's idea of a joke because Senator Barry
00:02:21 Goldwater, my boyhood idol, the man who got me interested in American politics, has passed away
00:02:28 some time ago. Then when I opened the package, I realized it was from Barry Goldwater Jr. Barry
00:02:35 Goldwater Jr. served in the U.S. Congress from 1969 to 1983 and subject to redistricting. He ran
00:02:44 for the U.S. Senate losing the Republican primary, Barry Goldwater Jr., who was a spitting image of
00:02:50 his father, who had a very square jaw, was a handsome guy and also the leader of the modern
00:02:57 American conservative movement, had seen or heard, I guess, the Stone Zone and heard me say
00:03:06 that it was his father's book, The Conscience of a Conservative, which was printed, you know,
00:03:12 by the millions in 1963 and four as the cornerstone of Barry Goldwater's successful nomination,
00:03:21 but his disastrous campaign for president of the United States. That was 1964. That was the
00:03:28 beginning of my political awakening. See, a lady who lived next door to us, a lady named Gladys 1.00
00:03:33 Rockwell. We were living in Lewisboro, New York at that time. She was active in the Women's
00:03:38 Republican Club, gave me a copy of this book, and I was transfixed. You see, Goldwater's vision of
00:03:44 America was mine, a strong national defense, peace through strength, limited regulation,
00:03:52 privacy, low taxation, and an unintrusive federal government, as well as an ardent
00:04:01 anti-communism. The package from Barry Goldwater Jr., in a very nice note, who said that he had
00:04:08 heard that his father's book started my political career while listening to The Stone Zone right
00:04:15 here on this show, was a book of the photographs that his father, who was a very famous amateur
00:04:21 photographer, had taken of the Old West. It was a very, very kind gesture. People think Barry
00:04:27 Goldwater lost, and in a way he did lose. He lost the 1964 election to Lyndon Johnson. But in fact,
00:04:35 He forged a new political coalition in America, which once broadened by Richard Nixon in 1968 and then used successfully by Ronald Reagan in 1980, as well as his reelection in 1984.
00:04:52 He's the same essential coalition that elected Donald Trump in 2016.
00:04:57 It is made up of working class families who were formerly Democrats, mostly ethnic Catholic working class Democrats in the Midwest, traditional Republicans in the Northeast, Southern whites who were more conservative.
00:05:14 And it was interesting that Richard Nixon in 1960 got about one third of the African-American vote.
00:05:22 That was an all time high until Donald Trump in 2024, when he made very substantial inroads among African-Americans.
00:05:31 So they added to what was the old Goldwater Coalition.
00:05:37 So once again, the same coalition that elected Nixon, Reagan, and later Trump was how I got my start in politics.
00:05:46 Very nice gesture from Barry Goldwater Jr.
00:05:51 I saw our iconic investor and Wall Street legend Warren Buffett.
00:05:55 This guy's watched Washington spend on other people's money more than most people doing the spending have been alive.
00:06:01 He has a solution to our deficit problem.
00:06:04 Pass a law, he says, that any time the federal deficit exceeds 3% of GDP,
00:06:11 every sitting member of Congress is ineligible for re-election.
00:06:16 Not just that they don't get paid, they're ineligible for re-election.
00:06:20 As he has proclaimed, the deficit would end in five minutes.
00:06:24 The debt, which cleared $40 trillion this summer, more than 120% of GDP,
00:06:31 while the government still runs annual gaps between $2 trillion to $5 trillion in revenue.
00:06:38 Committees don't fear hearings. They fear unemployment.
00:06:42 Members of Congress don't fear just not getting paid.
00:06:46 What they fear is losing their phony baloney jobs.
00:06:49 The 3% cap is not austerity theater. It's a firing clause.
00:06:53 I love this idea by Warren Buffett.
00:06:56 Members who vote the country off the fiscal cliff would be voting themselves out of a sweet job.
00:07:02 Now, haters and swamp protectors would call this a gimmick.
00:07:06 They called it pay-as-you-go.
00:07:08 That was called a gimmick until they exempted themselves from it.
00:07:11 They get free health care.
00:07:13 They get free access to the House or the Senate gym.
00:07:17 That's something you don't get.
00:07:19 $40 trillion in debt is not a rounding error, and it's not an act of God.
00:07:24 It's the residue of people who have no respect for the American people, for the average taxpayer.
00:07:30 It's the result of an empire that has gone insane.
00:07:34 Buffett named the remedy.
00:07:35 Congress will not pass it for the same reason alcoholics can't leave the bottle.
00:07:40 But somebody should introduce the bill anyway.
00:07:42 Maybe my friend Anna Paulina Luna, the congresswoman from Florida, who's been so adept and effective at fighting insider trading.
00:07:51 Perhaps she will introduce the bill. It needs to be out there as a marker.
00:07:56 Let them vote no on camera. Let's have a roll call vote, and then at least we'll know who
00:08:01 should suffer the political consequences for their rank cowardice. Meanwhile, the U.S. Border Patrol
00:08:09 is tracking a migrant caravan that departed from San Pedro Sula, Honduras, on September 20th,
00:08:16 according to the Department of Homeland Security, as the group continues its journey north through
00:08:22 Mexico towards our southern border. A DHS spokesman told Newsweek that the U.S. Border
00:08:29 Patrol is closely engaged with its international partners to monitor the Canada's movement,
00:08:34 the caravan's movement, and any other future developments. Now, since we have had zero
00:08:42 illegal crossings in the last six months under Donald Trump.
00:08:46 It's going to be very interesting to see with this caravan, which evidently has more than
00:08:50 600 participants, how they are received
00:08:54 at our border. Their timing, of course, is
00:08:57 connected to the midterm elections.
00:09:02 Between 200 and 400 migrants left San Pedro,
00:09:06 Sula, and small groups headed towards the border with Guatemala.
00:09:10 Oh, that was back on September 20th.
00:09:13 And by early Monday, September 28th, a caravan known as Faye Esperanza or Faith and Hope had grown to more than 600 migrants as it resumed its journey from Tapachula, southern Mexico, towards the country's northern border of the United States, according to media reports.
00:09:32 A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson said the border has remained closed and secured for the past 16 months, actually, under Trump, and warned that migrants attempting to enter the United States will be apprehended, prosecuted, and removed.
00:09:47 On September 21st, the U.S. Embassy in Tecapacalapa, sorry if I mispronounced that, wrote on X that the borders of the United States are closed to those who violate the law.
00:10:01 My Spanish is not that great.
00:10:04 Do not risk your life or that of your family by undertaking this dangerous journey to the north.
00:10:08 Do not believe the lies of human traffickers.
00:10:11 If you attempt to enter the United States illegally, you will be deported.
00:10:15 That's what the U.S. Embassy in Mexico put out last week.
00:10:19 It appears this caravan represents nothing more than an opportunity for Democrats to push their campaign hopes headed into the midterm elections, an effort that I still believe will fail entirely.
00:10:31 President Donald Trump built his political rise on the issue of immigration, and it remains among his strongest positions with the American people.
00:10:39 Poll after poll, the same polls that show Republicans locked in tough races this November also continue to show overwhelming public support for the deportation of people who are in the country illegally, particularly those, of course, with criminal records.
00:10:55 Americans, particularly immigrants who got here legally, do not support illegal immigration.
00:11:00 President Trump's border policies have brought border crossings, as I said, to their lowest level since 1970, with four-year crossings plummeting to just under 237,000 from over 2.2 million in 2022.
00:11:16 That was under former President Sleepy Joe Biden.
00:11:20 It's estimated over 10.8 million illegals cross into the United States under Joe Biden's watch.
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00:13:04 Meanwhile, in a story that's emblematic of governmental waste
00:13:08 and why we're over $40 trillion in debt,
00:13:12 five construction jobs by the Department of Veterans Affairs
00:13:16 Medical Center in Fayetteville, Arkansas
00:13:19 was supposed to cost $34.5 million.
00:13:23 Avoidable delays of one to seven years
00:13:26 ran that bill to an incredible $100 million.
00:13:30 Taxpayers therefore ate the extra $65.5 million.
00:13:35 A sterilization center that started at $2.7
00:13:38 landed with a price tag of $28.9 million.
00:13:43 A mental health building begun in 2014
00:13:45 without lighting, stairwells or elevator shafts
00:13:48 shafts, has been redesigned 34 times and was still unfinished as of this past January. Of the five
00:13:55 projects, only the laundry was done. The inspector's language is almost too polite to describe this
00:14:01 pilfering. Instructions were vague. Blueprints never arrived. Staff had no formal training.
00:14:07 Drafts and approvals were not recorded as federal rules reply. The VA picked a site that did not
00:14:13 have the proper space. A contractor poured work into a building that lacked the features that
00:14:18 the building is required to have. Communications among VA employees, the review said, could have
00:14:24 prevented the delay. The Veterans Administration is notoriously ineffective despite having the
00:14:29 important responsibility of taking care of our nation's veterans. To me, there is no higher or
00:14:35 more important calling. And we wonder why there's a severe, persistent mental health crisis among our
00:14:41 veterans. This culture will only stop when there's a serious dose of accountability and those
00:14:47 responsible are shamed and punished. Publish the names on those 34 revisions, then start the
00:14:53 criminal investigations. We need bureaucrats who do these things purposely behind bars 1.00
00:14:57 to honor our nation's veterans. Meanwhile, President Donald Trump has rejected Iran's
00:15:03 latest offer of a temporary ceasefire and a reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. He argued
00:15:10 that Tehran is asking for relief because America's economic pressure, orchestrated by the Secretary
00:15:15 of Treasury, Scott Besson, is working, not because the regime has discovered any sudden goodwill.
00:15:23 Iran answered on Sunday that diplomacy is the only path and that Hormuz opens when its conditions
00:15:29 are met, remaining in transient despite the economic pain their people are now enduring.
00:15:34 Friday's talks had left the impression that a narrow energy arrangement might be within reach,
00:15:40 Sunday seems to close that door for now. President of Iran has said earlier in the week that he did
00:15:46 not want the fight to run to the midterms. President Trump's public refusal shows that he
00:15:51 senses Iranian weakness in their desperation to strike a deal. He may be able to get something 0.99
00:15:56 better in the upcoming weeks as the Iranian economy continues to collapse. The remaining 1.00
00:16:01 work is to convert the squeeze into terms that reopened tanker traffic without handling the
00:16:06 blockade back as a trophy and without sliding into the war that has no off-ramp. I'm Roger Stone.
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00:17:12 Former Trump campaign manager Chris LaCivita, one of the strategists and operatives I respect most in American politics,
00:17:21 says that President Donald Trump intends to campaign for 30 consecutive days to defend the Republican majorities in the House and the Senate.
00:17:29 La Cervita, who is a brawler and one tough customer when it comes to political strategy,
00:17:36 argues that Republican strategists are still underpricing the turnout structure built in 2024.
00:17:42 Public ratings of House races have been moving against the party.
00:17:46 President Trump will use the weight of his personality to gin up his followers to vote for Republicans,
00:17:51 reminding them of the historic importance of this particular election.
00:17:54 Now, let's look at it. 0.83
00:17:56 Historically, midterms tend to punish the party that holds the White House.
00:18:00 They punish it more than when the leader stays in the residence and assumes the base will self-organize.
00:18:06 30 days on the calendar shows that President Trump is not taking this fight for granted.
00:18:11 He's fighting as hard as he can, and well, so should those who support him.
00:18:14 La Cervita's bet is that President Trump's 2024 coalition can show up again without a presidential oval on the ballot.
00:18:22 Trump himself is, of course, not running, although to some extent it is a referendum on his policies.
00:18:29 President Trump is reminding his base about the importance, causing a national stir, creating a momentum himself like a juggernaut that he is.
00:18:37 Could not save the day, could save the day in the midterms.
00:18:42 I personally pray for that.
00:18:44 Now, there's a lot of polling out there, but as I've said many times here in the Stowe Zone, there are polls and then there are polls.
00:18:49 There are polls that are designed to have a preconceived result.
00:18:53 They use those for the creation of the bandwagon effect or for fundraising.
00:18:57 And then there are the real polls that are taken with a scientific eye towards a properly drawn sample, neutrally drawn questions in the proper order.
00:19:06 Those polls are designed to determine what the actual attitude of the voters are.
00:19:10 And when I look at those polls, I find the Democrats either more unpopular than Republicans or just as unpopular than congressional Republicans.
00:19:20 And I point out once again that the Democrats going into this midterm election, other than their hatred for Donald Trump, which they're happy to talk about all day long, they have no plan for America.
00:19:31 No plan to reduce taxes.
00:19:32 In fact, they would increase them.
00:19:34 No plan to cut regulation.
00:19:36 In fact, they would increase them.
00:19:38 They'll repeal the tax on tips.
00:19:40 They'll repeal the tax on overtime.
00:19:44 They may even restore the tax on Social Security.
00:19:48 Right now, 88% of those who receive Social Security benefits, thanks to Donald Trump,
00:19:54 and the congressional Republicans will pay no taxes.
00:19:57 People need to look at what the alternatives are to Republicans continuing to hold on to the House.
00:20:03 Meanwhile, Adam Schiff has been very, very clear.
00:20:06 He is salivating over the ability to go after President Donald Trump and his family and his supporters personally, as he did in the Russian collusion hoax.
00:20:15 This is the endless cycle of lawfare, an effort to destroy your political enemies when you have no positive plan for the country.
00:20:24 Those who think the midterm elections are over and Republicans have already lost are simply wrong.
00:20:28 Donald Trump is the greatest campaigner since Theodore Roosevelt.
00:20:32 and these elections are still very much up for grabs with Republicans continuing to maintain
00:20:38 an enormous campaign finance advantage. Last time I looked, President Donald Trump had $400 million
00:20:45 in his political action committee. I predict that that will be $600 million before we get to
00:20:50 election day and he has pledged to deploy it. This is going to boil down to about 35 or 40
00:20:56 key house races and four or five key senate races uh don't bet the ranch on republicans losing this
00:21:05 november you might lose it all i'm roger stone you're listening to stone zone don't go away
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00:21:19 this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's a very very one of the smartest
00:21:35 political minds rogerson was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant
00:21:40 political analyst now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone and you're diving
00:21:48 right back into the stone zone. During a recent concert in Saratoga Springs, New York, Dave
00:21:54 Matthews of the Dave Matthews Band launched into an attack against President Donald Trump from the
00:22:00 stage. While in the middle of playing one of his songs, Matthews said that he was really tired of
00:22:04 this effing president. Matthews is just the latest Democrat musician to attack President Trump and
00:22:10 his supporters from the stage. Bruce Springsteen, who I never thought much of, made similar headlines
00:22:16 earlier this year. No, Bruce, you'll never be Bob Dylan. Matthew's attacks on the president are
00:22:22 nothing more than a distraction from his own personal scandals, of which there are many. This
00:22:26 one is particularly disgusting. On August 8th, 2004, a Dave Matthews tour bus, banned tour bus,
00:22:35 crossed Chicago's Kinsey Street Bridge and dumped an estimated 800 pounds of human excrement
00:22:43 through the metal grates onto an open-top architecture tour boat that was passing
00:22:49 underneath. Roughly two-thirds of the 120 passengers on this Chicago's Little Lady tour
00:22:56 bus were soaked in brownish-yellow slurry that went into their eyes, their mouths, their hair,
00:23:02 splattered their clothes. People vomited. Five were sent to the hospital for testing. The smell
00:23:08 lingered for days. A pregnant woman in a car behind the bus hit the same mess. This is the event 0.58
00:23:13 that some in Chicago still call poop-gay. 0.58
00:23:17 The band's first public posture was denial.
00:23:19 Management said that all the buses were accounted for and parked at the hotel.
00:23:23 A publicist stated that the driver denied involvement.
00:23:27 They offered DNA samples and license plates lists as if the investigation were some distant inconvenience
00:23:32 rather than obvious consequence of how their circus moved through the Windy City.
00:23:37 but video from the East Bank Club later showed that the bus was the only one crossing the bridge
00:23:44 at that exact time. Even the guy who drove the bus initially denied it. Then finally he pled guilty
00:23:49 to reckless conduct in discharging contaminants that caused water pollution. He got 18 months
00:23:55 probation, 150 hours of community service, and a $10,000 fine paid to the Friends of the Chicago
00:24:02 River. He was also fired by the Dave Matthews organization without pay. Matthews organization
00:24:10 paid $200,000 to the state of Illinois for a settlement to let the band avoid admitting guilt
00:24:16 in court, plus $50,000 each to the Chicago Park District and the Friends of Chicago River. They
00:24:23 also agreed to keep logs of when buses emptied their tanks. Dave Matthews is a disgrace. His 0.98
00:24:29 Attacks on the president are a desperate distraction from his own scandalous and, frankly, disgusting past. 0.52
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00:25:05 meanwhile on september 14th 2026 at the g20 energy abundance ministerial in houston texas
00:25:13 environmental protection agency administrator lee zelden former congressman of new york one of
00:25:19 president donald trump's very best appointments announced the final repeal of nearly all of the
00:25:25 Biden-Harris administration's 2024 carbon pollution standards for coal and gas-fired
00:25:31 power plants. The EPA estimates this move will save $310 billion through 2047 by ending compliance
00:25:40 rules that, well, are legally flawed and technically completely unworkable. Officials
00:25:45 also frame the repeal as a way to avoid wasted spending on controls that have not proven to be
00:25:51 commercially viable. The follow-on proposal's goal is to make it much harder for the next
00:25:57 administration to put federal power plant climate rules back in place. Both people of common sense
00:26:03 and people with hands-on experience in oil, gas, and coal have made this same case for years.
00:26:10 Biden's climate rules make it harder to keep old coal plants running, build new natural gas plants,
00:26:16 and sell U.S. energy overseas, even as America produced record amounts of oil and gas.
00:26:23 They call the 2024 rules the newest part of a 15-year war on coal,
00:26:29 and in their vote, those rules shut down plants without putting something just as reliable in their place.
00:26:35 The EPA minister, Lee Zeldin, a good man, called it the largest power sector deregulatory action in U.S. history
00:26:43 and a step towards affordable, reliable electricity.
00:26:47 Officials say the 2024 rules exceeded EPA authority under the Clean Air Act
00:26:52 by treating carbon capture as the best system of emission reduction.
00:26:57 But the Supreme Court struck down the Obama-era Clean Power Plan in West Virginia versus EPA.
00:27:04 That was back in 2022.
00:27:07 The plan did more than required plants to cut pollution.
00:27:10 it tried to shift the electricity system away from coal towards gas and unreliable renewables.
00:27:17 The court said that kind of generation shifting was a major policy choice Congress had clearly
00:27:22 not given to the Environmental Protection Agency. Under Section 111, the agency can require plants
00:27:29 to run cleaner, but it cannot use a statute to redesign the national power mix or require a
00:27:35 particular plant to use a particular power source. The Environmental Protection Agency also proposed
00:27:41 wiping out the rest of the power sector greenhouse gas standards. That is the lock if it is finalized
00:27:48 and survives in court. If it holds, the next Environmental Protection Agency cannot just flip
00:27:53 the 2024 rules back on. It would have to convince a court that Section 111 still covers climate
00:28:00 rules for this sector when they have ruled otherwise. According to the Environmental
00:28:05 Protection Agency under Lee Zeldin, U.S. power plants are only a small shrinking slice of the
00:28:11 greenhouse gas emissions in the air worldwide. By the way, China's power sector alone emits about
00:28:18 four times as much CO2 as the United States. In 2024, it accounted for roughly 39 percent of
00:28:26 global power emissions, the United States was only about 12 percent. So officials argue that
00:28:32 the 2024 rules would have done little for the climate while costing Americans billions.
00:28:38 The deputy administrator, David Fautoui, said the Trump EPA has a simple rule.
00:28:45 If Congress hasn't authorized it, then we're not going to do it. We're not requiring it.
00:28:49 Seems like common sense to me. He's also said that the Obama and Biden power plant rules
00:28:55 would have increased the cost of operating power plants by over $1 billion a year,
00:29:00 which would have led directly to higher energy bills for consumers and a less stable grid.
00:29:06 The administration says the rollback will keep electricity affordable and reliable
00:29:10 as demand grows from data centers, manufacturings, and electrification.
00:29:16 Officials project coal production for power sector use could rise more than tenfold
00:29:22 in the face of the repeal of these rules.
00:29:24 They say winter demand is why reliability cannot wait.
00:29:29 Of course, the environmental groups have already sued.
00:29:32 In September, that was September 17th, two of the larger environmental organizations,
00:29:39 plus the American Lung Association and other health groups,
00:29:42 asked the D.C. Circuit Court to vacate the repeal by the EPA.
00:29:46 They say more power plant pollution will mean more deaths and worse climate damage.
00:29:50 How long the rollback lasts will turn on whether Section 111 can be used for climate rules in this sector.
00:29:57 The final repeal takes effect on November 16th, unless the court blocks it.
00:30:01 Comments on the leftover standards proposal are due by November 2nd.
00:30:06 The Trump Environmental Protection Agency remains committed to common sense cost savings, unleashing American energy and keeping electricity affordable and reliable.
00:30:16 Meanwhile, it's amazing, but speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative Conference in New York City last week,
00:30:23 former President Bill Clinton attacked President Donald Trump and his administration,
00:30:27 ironically and falsely, accusing the current administration of weaponizing the Justice Department.
00:30:35 I'm sorry, I can't stifle my laugh.
00:30:37 Funny enough, Clinton only ended describing the exact weaponization that occurred under President Barack Obama
00:30:43 And the entire national security apparatus was used by Obama, Clinton, particularly Hillary Clinton, and the Democrat Party to surveil President Donald Trump's presidential campaign, to spy on him through lying to the FISA courts, and to, of course, use the so-called Steele dossier as the phony rationale for the appointment of a special counsel, Robert Mueller, to try to undo the results of the 2016 election.
00:31:14 Clinton said while speaking in New York,
00:31:16 Some days I can hardly believe what is happening in this country that I love so much.
00:31:21 People in charge have created one set of rules for themselves and another set for everyone else.
00:31:26 They've weaponized government to settle personal scores, prosecute enemies, stamp out free speech.
00:31:32 They've even made the federal government a new profit center for themselves and their allies.
00:31:36 This is Bill Clinton.
00:31:38 This is the party of Bill Clinton, the party that censored millions of people on social media, canceled them or banned them, stamping out free speech.
00:31:48 This is the Justice Department that used the phony Steele dossier and the false claim that the Democrat National Committee had been the target of an online hack by the Russians to try to destroy President Donald Trump and his family, to keep him off the ballot, to destroy him financially, and frankly, to put him in jail.
00:32:11 They went after me. They went after General Michael Flynn.
00:32:15 You really wonder whether Bill Clinton has any self-awareness at all.
00:32:19 Let's go through that again.
00:32:20 He says people in charge have created one set of rules for themselves and another set for anyone else.
00:32:26 His wife Hillary Clinton used an illegal email server over which he very definitely sent classified information.
00:32:34 That is a punishable offense.
00:32:36 She was never charged.
00:32:38 Bill and Hillary Clinton traded millions of dollars in contributions to the Clinton Foundation and later the Clinton Global Initiative in return for, well, among other things, access to 70 percent of America's uranium supply.
00:32:55 But they, of course, were never charged.
00:32:58 Talk about prosecuting enemies.
00:33:00 Talk about stamping out free speech.
00:33:02 Talk about making a new profit center for themselves and their allies. 1.00
00:33:06 The Clinton Foundation paid millions of dollars for Chelsea Clinton's wedding. 1.00
00:33:13 How about that?
00:33:14 The statement is really laughable, particularly coming from one of the most epically corrupt presidents in my lifetime. 0.96
00:33:19 I will admit to you that Bill Clinton is a charming rogue.
00:33:22 I introduced him to President Richard Nixon, and they actually became close.
00:33:28 Nixon was interested in trying to help educate the younger Bill Clinton about what was really going on in Russia and China.
00:33:35 But Clinton wants you to forget that the Clintons entered, the White House practically broke, and they left multimillionaires.
00:33:42 He also wants you to forget the epic corruption of Bill Clinton's brother, who was selling pardons throughout Bill's presidency.
00:33:48 So you see, Bill Clinton also doesn't want you to remember that he had a black son, Danny Williams, who he refuses to recognize.
00:33:55 I've interviewed Danny Williams many times.
00:33:58 There's a great film on him called Banished the Danny Williams Story.
00:34:02 Danny is spelled D-A-N-N-E-Y, banished the Danny Williams story.
00:34:07 You can find it on YouTube.
00:34:09 But he doesn't want you to know about that.
00:34:10 He doesn't want you to know that Danny Williams was Bill Clinton's son.
00:34:13 He is Bill Clinton's son, was banished by Hillary.
00:34:17 Clinton himself also weaponized the Justice Department to a tremendous extent.
00:34:20 Well, he was serving as president.
00:34:22 In 1993-94, the White House Office of Personnel Security,
00:34:26 under Craig Livingstone and Anthony Marcika,
00:34:31 requested and received thousands of FBI background investigation files,
00:34:35 more than 400 by the latest counts,
00:34:37 many of them of Reagan and Bush staffers,
00:34:40 including James A. Baker III, Ted Duberstein, Tony Blankley, and others,
00:34:45 plus fired the travel office head, Billy Dale, and vilified him
00:34:49 so they could steer that lucrative travel agent business
00:34:53 to one of their cronies in Arkansas.
00:34:56 These files were obtained without the subject's knowledge.
00:34:59 The Clintons were on a fishing expedition for dirt.
00:35:02 FBI Director Louis Frey later called the transfers a serious and illegal security failure.
00:35:08 In May 1993, the White House fired seven longtime travel office officials,
00:35:13 quickly involved the FBI looking at Billy Dale's finances.
00:35:17 Dale was later indicted for embezzlement, and then he was acquitted.
00:35:21 A White House internal review conceded that inappropriate actions with respect to the FBI
00:35:26 and the appearance that personal and political interests had affected Billy Dale's filing.
00:35:31 Billy Dale, by the way, was a veteran bureaucrat who had run the White House travel office under multiple presidents.
00:35:39 Clinton said the FBI was used to retroactively justify a patronage purge
00:35:42 because a distant Clinton, a cousin, and a Hollywood friend were slated to take over this lucrative travel agency work.
00:35:49 Then of course there was the Whitewater scandal. Senate and House investigators alleged the White
00:35:55 House Treasury officials tried to manage or blunt a RTC criminal referrals that named the
00:36:01 Clintons Arkansas Circle and the career prosecutors handling early Whitewater work were viewed
00:36:06 internally as hostile. The independent counsel process that followed produced convictions of
00:36:12 associates Jim and Susan McDougall, Webster, Hubble and others but didn't touch the Clintons
00:36:17 on Whitewater itself. What was it Bill said about a two-tier justice and some people being punished
00:36:24 while others were not? Billy Dale, Judicial Watch, Bill O'Reilly, the American Spectre, Heritage, NRA,
00:36:31 and other conservatives, anti-Clinton groups reported that they all were audited by the IRS
00:36:35 in the 1990s, showing a clear pattern of retaliation and revenge under Clinton. My book, The Clinton's
00:36:42 War on Women, New York Times bestseller
00:36:44 lays it all out there if you're
00:36:46 interested. I'm Roger Stone, tired
00:36:48 of talking about the Clintons, but when we come back
00:36:50 we've got more politics.
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00:37:46 Welcome back into the Stone Zone. President Donald Trump on Sunday floated the idea of restoring former President Franklin D. Roosevelt's White House swimming pool, the site of which is now occupied by the James S. Brady Press Briefing Room.
00:38:02 It was a historic pool that both FDR and JFK actually swam in.
00:38:07 This comes amid Trump's ongoing feud with the White House Correspondents Association
00:38:11 and the left-wing media after he removed CNN, MSNOW, formerly known as MSNBC,
00:38:19 and Politico from the White House earlier this month.
00:38:22 Three outlets were reinstated with White House access last week after a judge,
00:38:26 I think incorrectly, ruled that Trump's ban on the outlets was likely unconstitutional
00:38:31 and ordered the White House to restore their access.
00:38:35 They argue, of course, that this was a limitation on their First Amendment free speech rights,
00:38:39 which is absurd because they're free to report anything they want about President Trump or any other subject.
00:38:45 Why they're guaranteed taxpayer-financed and subsidized office space inside the White House.
00:38:52 Now, that's another question.
00:38:53 Still, the leftist press pool decided to boycott the president,
00:38:56 which ultimately backfired when conservative media outlets finally got a seat at the table.
00:39:02 The FDR pool was originally built under Franklin Roosevelt's administration,
00:39:07 but then in 1930, that was back in 1933,
00:39:11 and it was converted into a press briefing room under President Richard Nixon in 1970.
00:39:17 Trump posted side-by-side graphics of the current White House briefing rules labeled fake news
00:39:24 and before, with Franklin Roosevelt's White House pool labeled FDR pool and after.
00:39:31 So you have to wonder whether the president is just trawling
00:39:35 or whether this is something he's really going to do.
00:39:40 It is amazing that these three particular outlets, CNN, Politico, MSNBC,
00:39:48 They endlessly vilified me as a Russian intelligence asset for almost two years.
00:39:55 And then when a federal judge ordered the Justice Department to release Robert Mueller's long-hidden, long-redacted final report,
00:40:05 on which he says on page 163, that he found no evidence of Russian collusion, WikiLeaks collaboration, or any other crime on my part.
00:40:15 Of course, none of those media outlets reported that.
00:40:18 It's like it never happened.
00:40:20 These are the same people who sat idly by while millions of people, including many people listening to the Stone Zone, were banned or canceled on social media, whether it was Twitter or Facebook or Instagram or YouTube and so on.
00:40:37 Now, there is a real limitation on First Amendment rights, but none of these media organizations complained about that.
00:40:45 As I've said many times here in the Stone Zone, I don't get my news from CNN for the same reason I don't drink out of the toilet.
00:40:54 I'm encouraged by these news stories that Elon Musk is considering buying CNN.
00:40:59 My guess is that it will come relatively cheap because I'm guessing that it is losing money hand over fist.
00:41:07 CNN's viewership has dropped precipitously since Donald Trump got back into the White House.
00:41:12 And frankly, I don't think anyone believes anything they say anymore.
00:41:17 Jake Tapper himself now admits in a book that he published to make money that he knew that Joe Biden was slipping both mentally and physically.
00:41:25 Yet if you go back and look at his interview with Laura Trump, he chastised her.
00:41:29 He attacked her viciously for suggesting that Joe was not at the top of his game.
00:41:34 Now he writes in a book that he knew the entire time that Joe was slipping.
00:41:38 Why would anybody believe these people?
00:41:41 I hope the White House will appeal this ruling by Judge Tim Kelly, who says that these three news outlets are entitled to taxpayer subsidized space inside the White House.
00:41:51 I'd like to see room for other news organizations, other journalists.
00:41:56 I don't think they have a right to that space.
00:41:59 They certainly have a First Amendment right to report anything they want.
00:42:03 And they will continue to smear Donald Trump and tell you half-truths and lies.
00:42:08 it's not what you'll hear on the stone zone
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00:42:12 in fact we'll tell you the stone cold truth
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