The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - August 09, 2024


The Same People Who Killed JFK & Tried to Kill Trump Removed Nixon in a Silent Coup


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56 minutes

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489

Misogynist Sentences

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Summary

On August 9th, 1974, President Richard Nixon resigned from the presidency, becoming the first sitting president to do so. Fifty years later, a very different narrative has emerged regarding how and why Nixon was removed from office. And that narrative involves a much different set of facts about the Watergate break-in and cover-up, and a much more detailed account of the events that led to Nixon s ouster from the White House. In this episode of The Stone Zone with Roger Stone, Stone discusses Watergate, Watergate, and Watergate's impact on American politics and how it changed the way we look at the presidency for decades to come. Stone is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor to President Donald Trump. He has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents and is a frequent commentator on conservative media outlets. Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society, and has been a pop culture icon for decades. He is a prolific writer, and is one of the most influential men in the conservative press and political circles. Roger Stone has been described as a "pop culture icon" by Rolling Stone, and an "infamous" conservative commentator by The Daily Mail, and he is a regular contributor to conservative publications such as The Weekly Standard, The Daily Caller, and The New Republic. and The Globe and The Daily Telegraph, among other publications. Roger Stone is an outspoken libertarian, and conservative commentator, and serves as a regular guest on conservative radio and television talk shows, and radio stations across the country, including Sirius XM radio and the Fox Business Network, and the BBC Radio. He is an avid reader of conservative publications, and writes for Playboy and the National Enthusiast, and hosts a blog called "The Daily Caller." and the Wall Street Journal, and his website is widely syndicate, "The Weekly Standard." and is widely respected by conservative critics, including The Hill, The Hill and The Hollywood Reporter, among many other publications, including "The Hill" and the New York Sun, and "The Hollywood Reporter." . He is also a frequent contributor to The New York Magazine, The Atlantic, and Forbes Magazine. The Daily Beast, The Hollywood, and many others, Roger Stone s latest book is out on the streets of New York, and you can find him on social media, "Roger Stone's new book "The Man Who Killed Kennedy."


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist
00:00:03.200 and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
00:00:07.020 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide
00:00:09.220 to three Republican presidents.
00:00:11.040 He is a New York Times best-selling author
00:00:12.800 and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:16.680 As an outspoken libertarian,
00:00:18.380 Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,
00:00:20.640 spoken at countless venues,
00:00:22.400 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union
00:00:25.300 and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:27.060 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena,
00:00:30.940 Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:33.060 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:41.220 Welcome. I'm Roger Stone, and you're back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:46.980 Fifty years ago yesterday,
00:00:49.720 President Richard M. Nixon resigned from the presidency,
00:00:53.500 the first president to do so.
00:00:57.060 Since that time, a very different narrative has emerged
00:01:01.940 regarding how and why Nixon was removed from the presidency.
00:01:08.260 We're going to focus on that today.
00:01:10.780 Today, of course, would be the day that Secretary of State
00:01:15.440 Henry Kissinger received Nixon's letter of resignation,
00:01:19.820 in which, of course, he makes his dramatic exit
00:01:23.700 from Washington, D.C. by helicopter.
00:01:26.980 We're going to show you that later.
00:01:29.160 You know, as the youngest member of the staff
00:01:31.160 of Richard Nixon's 1972 campaign,
00:01:34.440 I actually recall crying uncontrollably
00:01:37.280 while our 37th president resigned on television.
00:01:41.400 I was in Reno, Nevada, for a national committee meeting
00:01:46.700 of the Young Republican National Federation.
00:01:50.800 It was a very emotional time.
00:01:53.940 Now, I think it was the moment that broke the back
00:01:56.560 of American politics, possibly for good.
00:01:59.660 It set the stage for five decades of scandal,
00:02:03.880 lawfare, dirty tricks, and vicious partisan battles.
00:02:07.920 Back then, during the summer, the official narrative
00:02:11.500 regarding Watergate was setting like wet cement.
00:02:15.520 It was created by Bob Woodward, Richard Bernstein,
00:02:19.140 Robert Richard Bernstein of the Washington,
00:02:22.580 Carl Bernstein, pardon me, of the Washington Post.
00:02:25.760 And it goes like this.
00:02:27.360 Officials working for Richard Nixon's re-election campaign
00:02:30.100 broke into the Democrat National Committee offices
00:02:33.180 at the Watergate Hotel.
00:02:35.240 President Richard Nixon got caught covering up
00:02:37.600 this crime.
00:02:38.920 Exposure of the cover-up would ultimately lead
00:02:42.020 to Nixon's resignation.
00:02:45.040 White House counsel John Dean, of course,
00:02:47.040 became a courageous whistleblower
00:02:49.840 who exposed Nixon and his criminal gang.
00:02:55.100 But in the 50 years since the Watergate break-in,
00:02:58.240 a more complete, and I would argue far more accurate,
00:03:01.920 narrative about Watergate has emerged.
00:03:04.400 Not that the facts threaten the way that many Americans
00:03:08.700 still look at these events.
00:03:10.740 It's a settled matter with the American people.
00:03:13.920 I've written two books on Richard Nixon,
00:03:16.760 one specifically on Watergate,
00:03:19.400 but neither one of them ever sold as well as my book,
00:03:23.200 The Man Who Killed Kennedy,
00:03:24.520 the case against LBJ,
00:03:26.900 regarding the Kennedy assassination.
00:03:30.100 That's because the American people
00:03:32.180 are still fascinated about that murder mystery,
00:03:35.360 but Watergate, in their mind,
00:03:37.100 is a settled matter.
00:03:39.280 And, well, Richard Nixon is typecast as the villain.
00:03:43.480 Now, the facts that threaten many Americans
00:03:48.940 still about this are not coming through.
00:03:53.620 For example, in conventional wisdom of Watergate
00:03:57.520 lives on recently in a made-for-TV series
00:04:00.940 on the Stars Network called Gas Lit.
00:04:04.500 This starred Julia Roberts,
00:04:06.780 and she plays Martha Mitchell,
00:04:08.780 the controversial wife of Nixon campaign manager
00:04:11.580 and attorney general, John Mitchell.
00:04:14.260 Like so many takes on Washington and Watergate,
00:04:17.540 the series is historically completely inaccurate.
00:04:20.440 For example, it alleges that John Mitchell,
00:04:23.360 the attorney general,
00:04:24.500 and then later Nixon's campaign manager in 1972,
00:04:27.940 both knew about and approved the break-in.
00:04:31.500 Mitchell insisted to his dying day
00:04:33.940 that he never approved of the break-in.
00:04:36.520 Two of his top aides, including Fred LaRue,
00:04:39.680 who was also convicted for a minor crime,
00:04:43.120 insisted, and he was in the same meetings,
00:04:45.900 that Mitchell had never approved the break-in
00:04:48.480 at the Watergate.
00:04:50.600 The outstanding book on this by James Rosen,
00:04:54.460 The Strong Man, which is a biography of John Mitchell,
00:04:58.300 makes the exact same case.
00:05:00.640 You know, when I watched Nixon resign,
00:05:02.840 it was impossible for me to know that, like him,
00:05:05.680 I would one day be in a tiny class of U.S. citizens
00:05:09.380 to receive a presidential pardon.
00:05:12.320 I guess it's something Nixon and I have in common.
00:05:15.300 I was convicted in a Soviet-style show trial
00:05:18.260 in Washington, D.C., of course,
00:05:20.020 for the crime of lying to Congress
00:05:22.260 about Russian collusion
00:05:23.880 with Donald Trump's 19-2016 campaign,
00:05:27.080 pardon me,
00:05:27.500 a crime that never really happened.
00:05:32.340 How does one lie when one has no motive to lie?
00:05:35.900 How was that?
00:05:36.940 Why would one lie when there is nothing to cover up?
00:05:40.260 Like Nixon, I was railroaded.
00:05:42.960 My sympathy with my old boss,
00:05:44.880 therefore, extends to the book I wrote,
00:05:47.800 Nixon Secrets, in 2024,
00:05:49.620 in which I first tried to create
00:05:51.540 the historical record about Watergate.
00:05:53.840 The fundamental question of this entire affair
00:05:56.220 is whether President Nixon knew
00:05:57.760 about the harebrained plan
00:05:59.440 to break into the Watergate complex before the fact.
00:06:02.640 All the evidence,
00:06:03.620 with more emerging year and year,
00:06:05.240 suggests that this was not the case.
00:06:08.120 In the President's Men,
00:06:09.780 Nixon's longtime traveling companion
00:06:12.000 and aide-de-camp,
00:06:14.520 Dwight Chapin,
00:06:15.540 torpedoes that conventional story.
00:06:18.280 As Chapin both reveals and documents,
00:06:21.160 it was White House Counsel John Dean
00:06:23.020 who conceived, pushed, covered up,
00:06:26.320 and lied to Nixon for over nine months
00:06:28.600 about the origins of the Watergate caper
00:06:31.840 and all of its ties to the White House.
00:06:35.500 Not only became clear
00:06:36.740 the cover-up would not hold,
00:06:38.360 that's when Dean secretly reached out
00:06:40.540 to Watergate prosecutors
00:06:42.260 to go make a deal for himself.
00:06:44.220 That Dean was disbarred
00:06:46.320 and that he only was incarcerated
00:06:48.660 for four months
00:06:50.140 where he was actually
00:06:51.120 just going to a DOJ office
00:06:53.960 working every day with prosecutors.
00:06:57.000 Well, that doesn't get mentioned.
00:06:59.520 He was also,
00:07:00.580 actually went on to lecture
00:07:02.540 the Association of Attorneys
00:07:05.800 about legal ethics,
00:07:08.140 a man who not only had been disbarred,
00:07:11.040 but was the perp in this case.
00:07:14.040 Dean is, in fact, the real villain.
00:07:16.540 The Watergate special prosecutors
00:07:19.180 found substantial discrepancies
00:07:21.260 between Dean's testimony
00:07:22.720 under oath to the prosecutors
00:07:24.760 and his sworn testimony
00:07:26.660 before the televised Senate.
00:07:29.980 Watergate investigated committee as well.
00:07:33.020 These discrepancies were mentioned
00:07:34.640 in an FBI report on July 5th.
00:07:37.600 Dean, of course, was not prosecuted
00:07:39.360 as he should have been for perjury.
00:07:41.580 In fact, he quickly became
00:07:42.960 a untouchable media darling
00:07:45.080 because he had turned on Nixon.
00:07:47.780 In his own book,
00:07:48.740 The Nixon Defense,
00:07:50.180 Nixon largely, pardon me,
00:07:51.960 Dean largely omitted
00:07:53.440 his own role in Watergate,
00:07:55.460 saying those who want to understand
00:07:57.220 what Nixon did
00:07:58.840 should read his book,
00:08:00.480 Blind Ambition.
00:08:02.340 But when confronted under oath
00:08:04.160 between discrepancies
00:08:05.400 between his sworn testimony
00:08:07.720 and his book, Blind Ambition,
00:08:10.760 Dean said that he didn't write
00:08:12.320 Blind Ambition,
00:08:13.640 that it had been actually written
00:08:15.760 by the Pulitzer Prize-winning
00:08:17.940 ghostwriter Taylor Branch.
00:08:20.920 Then later on,
00:08:22.360 Dean blamed his legendary editor,
00:08:25.500 Alice Mayhew,
00:08:26.940 both of whom denied
00:08:28.220 that they had written
00:08:30.340 the discrepancies
00:08:32.700 that were found in Blind Ambition.
00:08:35.580 There were other distortions
00:08:37.460 in Dean's book,
00:08:39.420 The Nixon Defense.
00:08:40.920 He very carefully insists
00:08:42.660 that this is the transcript
00:08:43.920 of all of the Nixon conversations,
00:08:47.040 but he handily omits
00:08:50.080 those transcripts
00:08:52.380 when he tells Richard Nixon
00:08:54.900 that Gordon Strawn,
00:08:58.080 a man in the White House,
00:08:59.420 is in fact getting
00:09:01.280 the wiretap transcriptions
00:09:03.920 after lying for 19 months
00:09:06.240 saying no one
00:09:06.960 in the White House
00:09:07.660 was aware of this.
00:09:09.960 Oddly enough,
00:09:11.200 missing from Dean's books
00:09:12.660 are the specific conversations
00:09:15.640 of March,
00:09:17.100 I believe it is 24th,
00:09:18.380 23rd, and 27th,
00:09:20.260 in which Dean
00:09:21.560 coaches Nixon on perjury.
00:09:24.380 Those are omitted
00:09:25.280 from Dean's book,
00:09:26.640 which he says
00:09:27.120 is a complete collection
00:09:29.180 of all the transcripted
00:09:30.800 conversations
00:09:31.720 regarding Watergate
00:09:33.560 and Richard Nixon.
00:09:35.340 So, in his own book,
00:09:37.500 The Nixon Defense,
00:09:38.500 he essentially omitted
00:09:40.820 his own role
00:09:42.960 in this entire mess.
00:09:45.180 There are other distortions.
00:09:46.960 Dean lied to Congress,
00:09:49.140 pardon me,
00:09:49.480 lied to Nixon
00:09:50.380 for 19 months.
00:09:51.440 That omission
00:09:52.000 really explains
00:09:52.960 Nixon's confusion
00:09:54.260 regarding the entire matter.
00:09:56.600 Also explains
00:09:57.740 the repeated denials
00:09:59.580 that anyone
00:10:00.200 in the White House
00:10:00.840 knew about
00:10:01.440 or was involved
00:10:02.140 in the Watergate.
00:10:03.500 Based on the analysis
00:10:04.640 of his White House counsel,
00:10:05.980 Nixon actually believed
00:10:07.900 he was telling the truth
00:10:09.120 when he said that.
00:10:10.720 Nixon claims
00:10:11.480 that the Nixon defense
00:10:12.820 is the definitive account
00:10:13.980 of Watergate,
00:10:15.160 yet his book
00:10:16.200 either trunkheads
00:10:17.280 or omits
00:10:18.560 his own tape conversations
00:10:19.960 of, here are the correct dates,
00:10:21.460 March 13th, 16th,
00:10:23.200 17th, and 20th.
00:10:25.060 Dean can clearly be heard
00:10:26.740 urging Nixon
00:10:27.580 to commit crimes.
00:10:29.400 We hear the unmistakable
00:10:30.720 sound of a lawyer
00:10:31.660 urging his client
00:10:32.600 to break the law.
00:10:34.360 In March 16th,
00:10:35.640 in 1973,
00:10:37.180 Dean is heard
00:10:37.840 telling Nixon
00:10:38.600 we will win.
00:10:40.960 In other words,
00:10:41.540 he's cheering on
00:10:42.680 the cover-up.
00:10:44.200 At every turn,
00:10:45.300 Dean minimizes
00:10:46.220 his own role
00:10:46.980 in Watergate.
00:10:48.120 He destroyed
00:10:48.780 the notebook
00:10:49.380 that belonged
00:10:50.000 to burglar
00:10:50.800 E. Howard Hunts
00:10:51.820 that was found
00:10:52.840 in his safe.
00:10:54.420 He also arranged
00:10:55.540 for all of the early
00:10:57.620 hush money payments
00:10:59.000 to E. Howard Hunt
00:11:00.500 and the other burglars,
00:11:02.220 including G. Gordon Liddy.
00:11:05.100 Jack Caulfield
00:11:06.040 and Anthony Ulasiewicz,
00:11:08.240 both decorated
00:11:09.500 New York City cops
00:11:10.980 who worked for Dean
00:11:12.680 in the White House
00:11:13.740 as investigators,
00:11:15.300 say in their published memoirs
00:11:17.320 and in their oral histories
00:11:19.380 that John Dean himself
00:11:21.280 both had them
00:11:22.640 case out
00:11:23.660 the Watergate
00:11:24.700 almost six weeks
00:11:26.760 before the break-in.
00:11:29.000 If that isn't proof
00:11:29.900 that John Dean
00:11:30.860 knew what was going on
00:11:32.460 and planned this,
00:11:33.840 what is?
00:11:35.020 Others,
00:11:35.720 from Pulitzer Prize-winning
00:11:37.620 investigative journalist
00:11:38.720 the late Clark Mollenhoff
00:11:40.460 to Jeb Stuart Magruder,
00:11:42.520 who cannot always be believed,
00:11:44.300 but even he has claimed
00:11:46.020 that Dean knew
00:11:47.060 all about the break-in
00:11:48.340 before it happened.
00:11:50.040 Now,
00:11:50.440 combing through the evidence,
00:11:51.860 a grubbier,
00:11:52.760 darker picture
00:11:53.480 of John Dean emerges.
00:11:55.540 The Nixon's defense
00:11:56.780 forgets to mention,
00:11:57.780 for example,
00:11:58.340 that Dean ordered
00:11:59.340 Jack Caulfield,
00:12:01.180 the private investigator
00:12:02.220 working for him,
00:12:03.340 to dangle
00:12:04.320 executive clemency
00:12:05.680 before the Watergate burglar
00:12:07.300 James McCord,
00:12:09.240 who we now know
00:12:09.960 was actually working
00:12:10.900 for the CIA
00:12:11.840 the entire time,
00:12:13.420 in order to secure
00:12:15.360 his silence.
00:12:16.720 It also,
00:12:17.820 no mention in Dean's book
00:12:19.680 of his payout
00:12:20.560 to the seventh
00:12:21.780 Watergate burglar,
00:12:23.060 Lou Russell.
00:12:24.320 He wasn't apprehended,
00:12:26.520 but he was told
00:12:27.540 to hide out
00:12:28.200 in Silver Spring, Maryland,
00:12:29.900 after the Watergate arrests.
00:12:32.320 Amounts traced
00:12:33.120 to Russell's bank account
00:12:34.700 coincide with the exact dates
00:12:36.900 and amounts
00:12:37.480 that Dean took cash
00:12:39.460 out of a secret
00:12:40.520 White House
00:12:41.260 political slush fund.
00:12:43.420 So what exactly
00:12:44.940 was the Watergate burglary
00:12:46.700 that brought
00:12:47.240 Richard Nixon down for?
00:12:49.100 Much about the break-in
00:12:50.280 Christopher Caldwell
00:12:51.240 recently observed
00:12:52.200 makes no sense.
00:12:54.160 One theory
00:12:54.700 comes back to Dean.
00:12:55.980 For years,
00:12:56.580 he denied his connection
00:12:57.740 to a mob-connected,
00:12:59.640 high-priced call girl
00:13:00.760 named Maddie,
00:13:01.840 pardon,
00:13:02.620 Madam Heidi Reichen,
00:13:04.520 whose ring was
00:13:05.620 allegedly supplying
00:13:06.880 prostitutes
00:13:07.580 to the Democratic
00:13:08.760 National Committee
00:13:09.660 as well as
00:13:11.060 the State Department.
00:13:12.400 John Dean's wife's book,
00:13:14.880 Moe,
00:13:15.340 a review,
00:13:16.720 a woman's view
00:13:17.640 of Watergate,
00:13:18.420 included a photo
00:13:19.240 of Dean and his wife
00:13:20.360 with Reichen.
00:13:21.260 That was later
00:13:22.180 excised from
00:13:23.140 the paperback version.
00:13:25.680 Author,
00:13:26.560 pardon me,
00:13:27.680 so again,
00:13:28.880 author Phil Stanford
00:13:30.200 documents all of this
00:13:31.540 in his book,
00:13:32.400 White House Call Girl.
00:13:33.940 Dean's name
00:13:34.580 and private phone number
00:13:35.680 appear in Reichen's
00:13:37.080 little black book.
00:13:38.720 Stanford makes
00:13:39.400 a compelling case
00:13:40.680 that Dean orchestrated
00:13:42.300 the Watergate break-in
00:13:43.520 to secure the records
00:13:45.340 that connected his wife
00:13:48.140 to this prostitution ring.
00:13:50.720 In fact,
00:13:51.360 Watergate burglar
00:13:52.200 Eugenio Martinez
00:13:53.580 was arrested
00:13:54.440 with the key
00:13:56.160 to the desk draw
00:13:57.340 where the portfolio
00:13:58.560 of photos
00:13:59.620 of the available
00:14:00.820 call girls
00:14:01.700 for Democrat Party
00:14:03.140 big shots
00:14:03.920 were kept.
00:14:06.140 What about
00:14:06.680 deep throat,
00:14:07.660 some say?
00:14:08.460 Well,
00:14:08.920 this is allegedly
00:14:10.120 the source
00:14:10.660 of much of
00:14:11.340 the Washington Post
00:14:12.660 reporting,
00:14:13.340 but deep throat
00:14:14.260 is never referred
00:14:15.140 to in any
00:14:15.860 of the Woodward
00:14:17.280 and Bernstein
00:14:18.020 contemporaneous
00:14:23.220 reporting on Watergate.
00:14:25.760 That name only
00:14:27.000 emerges as a trope
00:14:28.240 within the publication
00:14:29.340 of the book
00:14:30.200 All the President's Men.
00:14:32.180 Woodward and Bernstein
00:14:33.120 later claim,
00:14:33.940 of course,
00:14:34.400 that FBI Director
00:14:35.660 Mark Felt
00:14:36.300 was deep throat.
00:14:37.740 While this is again
00:14:38.640 widely accepted
00:14:39.520 as fact,
00:14:40.320 it's doubtful
00:14:41.020 that it's true.
00:14:42.320 2019 USA Today
00:14:44.260 reporter Ray Locker
00:14:45.380 published his book
00:14:46.240 Hague's Coup.
00:14:47.960 Locker is convincing
00:14:49.180 when he argues
00:14:50.060 that former
00:14:50.760 Kissinger deputy
00:14:51.780 and later
00:14:52.560 Nixon White House
00:14:53.700 chief of staff
00:14:54.440 Alexander Hague
00:14:55.780 is far more likely
00:14:57.200 to be deep throat
00:14:59.000 the Woodward
00:15:00.340 and Bernstein source.
00:15:01.600 Now,
00:15:02.640 bolstering Locker's
00:15:04.240 claim is the
00:15:04.980 undeniable fact
00:15:06.360 that Hague learned
00:15:07.640 in advance
00:15:08.320 that the White House
00:15:09.460 aide,
00:15:10.420 Alexander Butterfield,
00:15:12.360 knew about
00:15:13.060 and could have
00:15:13.740 destroyed
00:15:14.360 the White House
00:15:15.980 tapes
00:15:16.700 prior to them
00:15:18.380 being subpoenaed
00:15:20.420 and before he would
00:15:21.860 go before the
00:15:22.560 U.S.
00:15:23.200 Senate Committee.
00:15:24.940 In other words,
00:15:26.080 Nixon could have
00:15:27.140 asserted
00:15:27.860 executive privilege
00:15:28.860 over his tapes
00:15:29.840 to block
00:15:31.100 both the testimony
00:15:32.180 of Butterfield
00:15:33.000 and the playing
00:15:34.480 of the tapes,
00:15:35.280 but Hague failed
00:15:36.380 to disclose this
00:15:37.280 to Nixon,
00:15:38.320 nor did he
00:15:39.700 tell him about
00:15:40.560 the alleged
00:15:41.240 18 and a half
00:15:42.500 minute gap
00:15:43.540 in that tape.
00:15:44.980 The disclosure
00:15:45.660 of the taping system
00:15:47.020 and, of course,
00:15:47.800 the apparent erasure,
00:15:49.320 we still don't know
00:15:50.100 what, if anything,
00:15:51.160 it was hiding,
00:15:52.400 put the final nail
00:15:53.640 in Nixon's
00:15:54.660 impeachment coffer.
00:15:56.780 President Nixon
00:15:57.420 had no knowledge
00:15:58.380 of the breaking,
00:15:59.040 and therefore
00:15:59.720 Dean was protecting
00:16:00.820 himself when he
00:16:02.120 orchestrated the
00:16:02.820 cover-up.
00:16:03.820 His own White House
00:16:04.620 chief of staff,
00:16:06.020 Alexander Hague,
00:16:07.420 never informs the
00:16:08.280 president of relevant
00:16:09.820 developments in the
00:16:10.800 Watergate saga,
00:16:11.760 milestones in which
00:16:12.660 Nixon might have
00:16:14.040 averted impeachment
00:16:15.180 and ultimate
00:16:15.880 resignation.
00:16:17.420 In other words,
00:16:18.180 let me put it this
00:16:18.940 way, everything
00:16:20.080 you've been told
00:16:20.800 about Watergate
00:16:21.720 is wrong.
00:16:23.580 Thanks.
00:16:24.880 Okay, I had to get
00:16:26.340 that out there.
00:16:28.060 I put it together
00:16:29.220 for my Substack.
00:16:30.660 I urge you to go
00:16:31.300 to Substack.
00:16:33.420 We have a lively
00:16:35.200 political exchange
00:16:36.660 there.
00:16:37.180 It's called
00:16:37.600 The Stone Cold
00:16:38.220 Truth on Substack.
00:16:39.800 I urge you to
00:16:40.340 check it out.
00:16:41.340 Now to help me
00:16:42.080 break down not
00:16:43.160 only this day
00:16:44.580 and how it
00:16:45.520 commemorates
00:16:46.480 the resignation
00:16:49.820 of Richard Nixon.
00:16:50.880 First, of course,
00:16:52.300 my usual co-host,
00:16:54.260 Troy Smith,
00:16:55.300 editor-in-chief
00:16:55.860 of Slingshot.news.
00:16:57.300 Troy, thanks for
00:16:57.920 being in The Stone
00:16:58.580 Zone.
00:16:59.940 Roger, it's an honor
00:17:00.880 to be here today
00:17:02.000 of all days with
00:17:02.900 the Nixon
00:17:03.320 Connotation
00:17:04.000 special day.
00:17:05.380 All right.
00:17:05.880 And the other
00:17:06.320 gentleman we have
00:17:07.280 is not only a
00:17:08.840 distant relative
00:17:09.780 of President
00:17:10.560 Richard Nixon,
00:17:11.800 but he's a
00:17:12.500 longtime attorney,
00:17:13.900 activist,
00:17:14.540 has represented
00:17:15.540 me personally,
00:17:16.780 has also had
00:17:18.120 a hand in
00:17:19.460 politics.
00:17:20.000 It is my good
00:17:21.020 friend,
00:17:21.580 Tyler Nixon,
00:17:22.600 joins us now.
00:17:24.920 Roger, good to be
00:17:25.500 with you.
00:17:25.820 I can't think of
00:17:26.300 a more finer
00:17:28.240 American than you
00:17:29.200 and bearer of
00:17:31.260 the Nixon torch
00:17:32.120 to be with today
00:17:33.140 than Roger Stone.
00:17:35.380 Well, I had to
00:17:36.820 make the real
00:17:37.920 role of John
00:17:38.880 Dean clear
00:17:40.660 in that upfront
00:17:41.680 piece because
00:17:43.000 in all honesty,
00:17:44.820 he continues to
00:17:45.500 get away with
00:17:46.100 this.
00:17:46.780 CNN continues
00:17:47.640 to feature him
00:17:49.360 as a leading
00:17:50.620 critic of
00:17:51.860 Donald Trump.
00:17:53.520 They featured him
00:17:54.540 as a leading
00:17:55.280 critic of
00:17:56.420 George W.
00:17:57.900 Bush.
00:17:59.280 This embrace
00:18:00.600 of the left,
00:18:01.320 of course,
00:18:01.680 gives Dean
00:18:02.520 immunity against
00:18:03.500 his many,
00:18:04.520 many,
00:18:04.960 many lies.
00:18:06.580 But what I didn't
00:18:07.060 get in there
00:18:07.700 today,
00:18:08.800 and I do want
00:18:09.500 to talk about
00:18:10.140 with you,
00:18:11.160 Tyler,
00:18:11.640 is the CIA's
00:18:13.400 involvement and
00:18:14.440 knowledge of the
00:18:15.400 Watergate break-in.
00:18:16.600 James Rosen,
00:18:18.300 now with
00:18:19.060 Newsmax,
00:18:19.960 once with Fox,
00:18:21.560 a man who
00:18:22.180 was illegally
00:18:23.120 spied on by
00:18:25.040 the Obama
00:18:25.720 administration.
00:18:27.240 By the way,
00:18:27.980 wiretapping
00:18:28.740 reporters was
00:18:30.120 one of the
00:18:30.600 counts against
00:18:31.460 Nixon in his
00:18:32.320 impeachment.
00:18:33.400 Yet Barack
00:18:34.340 Obama had
00:18:36.480 James Rosen of
00:18:38.100 Fox News then
00:18:39.260 covering the
00:18:39.780 White House under
00:18:40.460 full surveillance,
00:18:41.840 including tapping
00:18:42.460 his email.
00:18:43.020 But I don't
00:18:44.500 recall any
00:18:45.260 impeachment of
00:18:46.860 Obama.
00:18:47.580 But in that
00:18:48.320 event, he has
00:18:49.060 written a
00:18:49.420 terrific piece
00:18:50.220 that appeared
00:18:51.280 at, I
00:18:52.360 believe it
00:18:52.920 was over
00:18:55.000 at, well,
00:18:56.580 I think it
00:18:57.640 appeared at
00:18:58.180 several places
00:18:58.820 online.
00:18:59.900 But he
00:19:00.520 makes the
00:19:01.080 case that
00:19:01.600 recently
00:19:02.120 declassified
00:19:03.980 CIA documents
00:19:05.860 demonstrate
00:19:07.020 without question
00:19:08.600 that the
00:19:09.500 Central Intelligence
00:19:10.280 Agency knew
00:19:11.640 in advance
00:19:12.520 about the
00:19:12.960 Watergate
00:19:13.380 break-in and
00:19:15.120 that at least
00:19:15.960 four of the
00:19:16.780 burglars were
00:19:18.000 still in the
00:19:18.900 pay of the
00:19:19.920 CIA, still
00:19:20.820 reporting to
00:19:21.640 their case
00:19:22.660 officers.
00:19:23.780 I now believe
00:19:24.880 that E.
00:19:25.620 Howard Hunt
00:19:26.160 and James
00:19:27.140 McCord, they
00:19:28.580 weren't working
00:19:29.140 for the committee
00:19:29.640 to reelect the
00:19:30.320 president where
00:19:30.960 they were
00:19:31.320 nominally being
00:19:33.060 compensated or
00:19:34.380 the White House.
00:19:35.200 They were
00:19:35.860 working for the
00:19:36.460 CIA.
00:19:37.580 What say you?
00:19:40.000 Well, first
00:19:40.800 of all, I
00:19:42.380 just want to
00:19:42.800 say preliminarily
00:19:43.680 that Len
00:19:45.320 Kolodny, a
00:19:46.280 great man and
00:19:48.540 a hound dog in
00:19:50.800 terms of going
00:19:52.020 after Bob
00:19:52.720 Woodward's lies,
00:19:53.840 passed away,
00:19:55.160 and God bless
00:19:56.440 him.
00:19:57.020 There are so
00:19:57.460 many people who
00:19:58.120 have worked to
00:19:59.420 bring out the
00:19:59.840 truth, Roger,
00:20:00.500 and you've
00:20:02.000 really spent the
00:20:03.080 last 50 years
00:20:03.880 doing that.
00:20:04.980 And it's so
00:20:05.440 critical because
00:20:06.120 this is a dark
00:20:06.880 day not because
00:20:07.780 of the resignation
00:20:08.620 of a corrupt
00:20:09.520 president.
00:20:10.500 It's the first
00:20:11.440 takedown of a
00:20:12.720 president using
00:20:13.520 the model that
00:20:14.720 has unfortunately
00:20:15.380 plagued our
00:20:16.160 country for the
00:20:16.840 last 50 years,
00:20:17.900 which is this
00:20:18.540 press lynch mob
00:20:20.140 or media lynch
00:20:21.360 mob model with
00:20:23.120 the uplifting of
00:20:24.460 frankly deceitful,
00:20:26.620 underhanded,
00:20:27.980 intelligence-connected
00:20:29.000 journalists who
00:20:30.600 run fake news and
00:20:32.000 essentially just
00:20:32.820 stampede good
00:20:34.680 people out of
00:20:35.760 public life.
00:20:37.360 And this is
00:20:38.500 truly the case.
00:20:40.120 If you wonder
00:20:41.180 why the media
00:20:42.000 has descended,
00:20:43.160 the so-called
00:20:43.820 press has now
00:20:44.620 descended into
00:20:45.480 the depths that
00:20:47.040 it is now,
00:20:48.280 just look to
00:20:49.000 the lionization
00:20:51.200 of Bob Woodward
00:20:52.900 and Carl
00:20:53.380 Bernstein,
00:20:54.180 who are just,
00:20:55.040 I mean,
00:20:55.380 particularly Woodward.
00:20:56.740 Bernstein is a
00:20:57.580 degenerate, but
00:20:58.760 Woodward is a
00:20:59.620 snake, a true
00:21:01.300 sleaze, a liar,
00:21:03.000 a manipulator.
00:21:03.740 But the truth
00:21:06.340 has finally got
00:21:07.100 its boots on and
00:21:08.020 it's making its
00:21:08.620 rounds and you've
00:21:10.040 pointed to something
00:21:10.920 that is absolutely
00:21:11.760 at the center of
00:21:13.320 this, which is that
00:21:14.060 this was a
00:21:14.560 takedown of
00:21:15.160 Richard Nixon,
00:21:15.760 not by his
00:21:17.060 corruption or the
00:21:18.320 corruption of his
00:21:19.400 White House or even
00:21:20.380 necessarily his
00:21:21.300 campaign operatives.
00:21:22.740 What they were
00:21:23.400 doing was paled in
00:21:24.900 comparison to,
00:21:25.740 frankly, what the
00:21:26.220 Kennedys of that
00:21:27.900 era, all the
00:21:28.740 Dillon Johnson,
00:21:30.080 the types of
00:21:31.300 things that were
00:21:31.820 done, they were
00:21:33.140 pikers compared to
00:21:34.340 Nixon's people were
00:21:35.560 pikers.
00:21:36.280 But it's funny,
00:21:37.080 they called all the
00:21:37.840 president's men, but
00:21:38.660 it wasn't all the
00:21:39.240 president's men, was
00:21:40.020 it?
00:21:40.140 It was all the
00:21:40.600 CIA's men that
00:21:42.260 really pulled this
00:21:43.000 thing off.
00:21:43.860 And what the CIA
00:21:44.880 got out of it, I
00:21:45.940 don't necessarily
00:21:46.740 think that Liddy and
00:21:49.380 Hunt wanted to
00:21:50.960 sabotage their own
00:21:51.920 operation.
00:21:52.520 I think Hunt had a
00:21:53.180 lot of reservations
00:21:53.800 going into it.
00:21:54.880 But what the CIA
00:21:55.620 had was intelligence
00:21:57.020 about the operation
00:21:58.360 in order to send
00:21:59.460 in the
00:22:00.080 metro police and
00:22:01.380 effectuate the bust
00:22:03.280 basically that blew
00:22:04.360 the lid off it.
00:22:06.860 And it's absolutely,
00:22:08.240 I think it was
00:22:09.260 convenient for them
00:22:10.000 to take down
00:22:10.520 Richard Nixon.
00:22:11.300 He was not going
00:22:12.220 to be under the
00:22:14.740 CIA's thumb or
00:22:15.680 anybody's thumb for
00:22:16.360 that matter.
00:22:16.880 He sought peace.
00:22:17.680 He didn't want the
00:22:19.520 type of bellicose
00:22:22.640 war footing,
00:22:24.060 constantly cold
00:22:25.420 warrior mindset
00:22:26.700 that the CIA had
00:22:28.480 basically, you
00:22:29.600 existed and grew
00:22:32.300 up under.
00:22:33.320 And he paid the
00:22:34.160 price for it,
00:22:34.800 frankly.
00:22:35.620 And John Dean is
00:22:37.240 truly a demon.
00:22:38.760 I mean, this man is a
00:22:39.700 despicable disgrace.
00:22:41.900 I can't summon enough
00:22:43.900 pejoratives to describe
00:22:45.940 this rat, this weasel.
00:22:48.880 He's a convicted felon,
00:22:50.440 disbarred attorney.
00:22:51.240 And this is who the
00:22:53.280 left and MSNBC and
00:22:55.080 CNN raise up as their
00:22:56.320 legal, their sort of
00:22:58.200 what have you, expert
00:23:00.020 or authority when it
00:23:01.880 comes to presidential
00:23:03.280 malfeasance or
00:23:04.260 scandals.
00:23:05.440 I mean, this is a
00:23:06.660 snake who basically
00:23:08.380 ran that operation,
00:23:10.480 was behind it all,
00:23:12.860 certainly at least from
00:23:14.300 the perspective of
00:23:15.060 approving it.
00:23:15.760 I mean, I think
00:23:16.240 Liddy headed it up and
00:23:17.860 Liddy was also
00:23:18.940 ambitious too, but at
00:23:20.380 least Liddy was a
00:23:21.320 sort of an honest
00:23:22.140 operator.
00:23:24.160 Dean just basically
00:23:25.520 turned on everybody
00:23:26.400 and has been profiting
00:23:27.460 from it ever since.
00:23:28.480 He manipulated
00:23:29.160 Nixon into the
00:23:30.940 cover-up and even
00:23:32.620 down to where the
00:23:33.580 so-called smoking
00:23:34.740 gun, he has for
00:23:36.500 decades led everyone
00:23:37.940 to believe that when
00:23:39.160 Haldeman and
00:23:41.180 President Nixon were
00:23:43.180 discussing the so-called
00:23:44.480 we could get the CIA
00:23:45.820 to intervene, that
00:23:47.860 was not concerning
00:23:48.720 the actual Watergate
00:23:49.920 break-in or the
00:23:50.600 Watergate investigation.
00:23:51.880 It was concerning
00:23:52.440 Democrat donors who
00:23:54.200 had given huge amounts
00:23:55.260 to the Nixon campaign
00:23:56.300 but wanted to do so
00:23:57.540 through intermediaries
00:23:58.600 and keep it hush-hush.
00:24:00.380 And that was the
00:24:00.880 only thing that Nixon
00:24:02.020 really wanted to
00:24:02.940 obscure in that.
00:24:04.440 He didn't want, you
00:24:05.340 know, he felt the
00:24:06.040 chips should fall where
00:24:06.860 they may and he said
00:24:07.580 that many times.
00:24:08.980 But, you know, this
00:24:10.120 was the beginning of the
00:24:11.040 media lynch mob model.
00:24:12.460 Everything, every scandal
00:24:13.660 became something gate
00:24:14.800 after that.
00:24:15.980 And journalists became
00:24:17.660 clout and celebrity
00:24:19.780 chasers.
00:24:20.900 And today it's, we've
00:24:22.060 seen it degenerate down
00:24:23.040 to where it's just now
00:24:23.880 total propaganda arm
00:24:26.060 for the deep state and
00:24:27.120 for the Democrat crime
00:24:28.800 syndicate.
00:24:29.660 And this is the result.
00:24:30.540 This is the handiwork of
00:24:31.980 the Woodwards and
00:24:32.720 Bernsteins and, of
00:24:33.960 course, the 60 or more
00:24:35.840 federal, well, special
00:24:38.020 prosecutors from the
00:24:39.120 Kennedy, the Kennedy
00:24:41.500 originally from, I
00:24:42.900 think, at least two
00:24:44.260 thirds of them came
00:24:44.940 right out of the
00:24:45.780 Robert Kennedy
00:24:46.640 attorney general
00:24:47.900 Department of
00:24:48.660 Justice ship.
00:24:50.480 And, you know, this
00:24:51.140 was, and these people
00:24:52.700 pretend to be vicars of
00:24:53.800 justice, people like
00:24:54.740 Ackerman, Nick Ackerman.
00:24:56.600 I mean, you know, the
00:24:57.900 fact that he would
00:24:58.540 deny the ex parte
00:24:59.620 meetings that took
00:25:00.700 place between Sirica,
00:25:02.300 a totally corrupt
00:25:03.480 Democrat judge who
00:25:05.460 presided over all this
00:25:06.720 and manipulated, you
00:25:07.940 know, the ex parte
00:25:08.940 meetings between
00:25:09.660 Sirica and the
00:25:10.200 prosecutors that
00:25:10.880 absolutely took
00:25:11.460 place that were
00:25:12.840 unconscionable, not
00:25:15.480 only abuses of
00:25:16.260 power, but violations
00:25:17.400 of law and ethics.
00:25:19.960 You know, these
00:25:20.320 kinds of things that
00:25:21.440 these people built
00:25:22.860 their careers and
00:25:23.740 their reputations on
00:25:24.820 that will go down in
00:25:26.200 flames now that the
00:25:27.180 truth is coming out
00:25:27.960 thanks to, in no
00:25:29.320 small part, to your
00:25:30.440 work as well as Jeff
00:25:31.420 Shepard's.
00:25:32.420 So, you know, the
00:25:33.320 truth will finally get
00:25:35.340 out.
00:25:35.740 And I remember, I'll
00:25:37.040 just say growing up,
00:25:38.000 I was always asked
00:25:38.840 two questions.
00:25:40.660 Any relation would
00:25:42.180 be the question, you
00:25:43.120 know, when I said my
00:25:44.060 last name when I was
00:25:44.840 a little kid.
00:25:45.760 And the second, the
00:25:47.020 smart, smart asses
00:25:48.340 would say, are you
00:25:48.860 going to change your
00:25:49.500 name?
00:25:50.320 And, you know, the
00:25:51.800 answer was yes and
00:25:52.740 no.
00:25:53.580 But one thing that
00:25:55.040 the people who
00:25:55.840 admired Nixon, the
00:25:57.000 Republicans, would
00:25:57.780 generally say was, you
00:25:58.780 know, he got a really
00:25:59.700 bad rap in history.
00:26:00.640 We'll judge him as
00:26:01.940 one of the great
00:26:02.460 presidents.
00:26:02.860 And it was hard to
00:26:04.120 believe at the time
00:26:04.840 because of the
00:26:05.720 vituperation and
00:26:07.180 just the onslaught of
00:26:08.660 negativity and
00:26:10.240 books that bashed
00:26:12.180 him, the
00:26:12.620 villainization of
00:26:13.520 Nixon.
00:26:14.580 It was hard to
00:26:15.680 understand that at
00:26:16.820 the time as a young
00:26:17.580 person.
00:26:17.900 But now I see the
00:26:18.840 truth and I see
00:26:20.460 what's come out.
00:26:21.220 And he absolutely
00:26:22.020 was a great man and
00:26:23.720 a great president.
00:26:25.180 And I'm honored to
00:26:26.400 bear his name.
00:26:27.100 And, Roger, I'm
00:26:27.600 honored to know you
00:26:28.320 having worked so
00:26:29.620 closely with him.
00:26:32.460 I thank you for
00:26:33.680 that, Tyler.
00:26:34.400 A couple things.
00:26:35.360 First of all,
00:26:36.500 interestingly enough,
00:26:37.560 the piece by James
00:26:38.720 Rosen, written on
00:26:41.080 the basis of
00:26:41.860 recently declassified
00:26:43.720 CIA documents,
00:26:45.240 clearly show that
00:26:46.180 White House special
00:26:47.400 prosecutor Ackerman
00:26:49.660 knew entirely about
00:26:51.880 the CIA's
00:26:52.720 involvement, but
00:26:54.340 never pursued any
00:26:56.080 of that.
00:26:57.080 So, look, Nick
00:26:59.380 Ackerman is a
00:27:00.880 partisan hack.
00:27:02.160 He uses his
00:27:02.900 Watergate prosecutor,
00:27:04.040 his legal
00:27:05.640 credentials to try
00:27:06.560 to pretend he's
00:27:07.220 not a partisan,
00:27:08.260 but he tries to
00:27:10.360 brush off the
00:27:11.180 ex-partite illegal
00:27:12.700 meetings between
00:27:13.620 Judge Sirica, by
00:27:15.000 the way, who was a
00:27:15.580 Democrat, a Republican,
00:27:17.260 and the
00:27:19.600 attorneys prosecuting
00:27:21.820 the Watergate
00:27:23.180 burglars, unbeknownst
00:27:24.760 to the White
00:27:25.680 Watergate burglars'
00:27:26.640 lawyers, which is,
00:27:27.320 of course, serious
00:27:28.380 violation for any
00:27:30.040 judge.
00:27:30.540 But the other
00:27:31.920 point here is...
00:27:32.640 I was going to
00:27:33.080 say, if he had a
00:27:33.760 scintilla of
00:27:34.480 integrity, he would
00:27:35.200 apologize to you,
00:27:36.260 Roger, for how he,
00:27:37.680 if you recall, when
00:27:38.620 you, when Ari
00:27:40.180 Melber hosted a sort
00:27:41.420 of a debate between
00:27:42.200 you and Ackerman, he
00:27:43.500 just totally refuted
00:27:44.700 when you, when you
00:27:45.480 brought this up and
00:27:46.420 acted as though you
00:27:47.240 were crazy.
00:27:47.700 So he owes you an
00:27:48.420 apology.
00:27:48.860 He's accused me
00:27:51.580 repeatedly of being a
00:27:52.740 traitor and a
00:27:53.260 Russian spy.
00:27:55.160 And because I'm a
00:27:56.380 public figure, I
00:27:57.100 probably can't sue
00:27:58.060 him, but there's no
00:27:59.240 evidence of that
00:27:59.960 whatsoever.
00:28:00.560 Let's not get off
00:28:01.180 track.
00:28:02.080 So Woodward and
00:28:02.860 Bernstein, the
00:28:03.420 story there is also
00:28:04.800 quite interesting,
00:28:05.580 told to me by someone
00:28:07.060 who knows both of
00:28:08.060 them.
00:28:08.700 Bob Woodward, of
00:28:10.240 course, became
00:28:10.880 internationally famous,
00:28:12.000 made millions and
00:28:12.960 millions of dollars,
00:28:13.820 most of which is
00:28:15.160 invested into real
00:28:16.700 estate.
00:28:17.080 He's become quite
00:28:18.320 wealthy, and of
00:28:19.040 course, he's still
00:28:20.480 sold a number of
00:28:21.600 books where he
00:28:22.580 raises other
00:28:23.820 falsehoods.
00:28:25.280 For example, he
00:28:26.040 wrote a book about
00:28:26.980 Iran-Contra in which
00:28:28.240 he alleged that CIA
00:28:30.000 director William
00:28:30.940 Casey had given
00:28:32.200 him a deathbed
00:28:33.400 confession when both
00:28:35.380 Casey's doctor and
00:28:37.260 his wife said that
00:28:40.000 at the time, having
00:28:41.220 suffered a stroke,
00:28:42.680 though Casey no
00:28:43.360 longer had the
00:28:44.060 capacity of speech.
00:28:45.740 A little problem
00:28:46.320 therefore, it
00:28:46.920 wrote a book on
00:28:49.360 John Belushi's
00:28:50.280 death.
00:28:51.120 Members of the
00:28:51.620 Belushi family have
00:28:52.620 attacked him
00:28:53.180 repeatedly for being
00:28:55.460 incorrect about
00:28:56.740 numerous things.
00:28:57.920 So I think,
00:28:59.120 though, he is worth
00:29:01.240 millions of dollars.
00:29:02.260 He's still a big
00:29:03.120 name on media.
00:29:04.000 Carl Bernstein, on
00:29:04.880 the other hand, also
00:29:06.780 made millions of
00:29:07.600 dollars, which he
00:29:08.460 spent on wine, women,
00:29:10.380 and songs, shall we
00:29:11.280 say.
00:29:11.560 He is, he was, he's
00:29:14.760 been, lived like a
00:29:16.560 reprobate, and he
00:29:18.780 has burned through
00:29:19.660 most of his money.
00:29:21.180 He tried to be a
00:29:22.520 television anchor, that
00:29:24.200 didn't work.
00:29:25.440 But there was a time
00:29:26.540 when Bernstein learned
00:29:28.720 that Woodward was going
00:29:29.600 to go on tour without
00:29:30.940 him, which meant that
00:29:32.520 Bernstein would not be
00:29:34.060 getting paid.
00:29:35.380 And he was fairly broke
00:29:36.620 at that time.
00:29:37.380 By the way, Woodward
00:29:38.460 refused to lend him
00:29:39.420 money.
00:29:40.780 So Woodward
00:29:41.640 Bernstein's reaction
00:29:43.040 was to write a piece
00:29:44.120 for Rolling Stone on
00:29:45.800 the rocking, on the
00:29:47.080 Mockingbird media
00:29:48.660 aspect of the CIA.
00:29:51.300 In other words, fully
00:29:52.200 exposing that the CIA,
00:29:54.460 including probably him,
00:29:56.180 were being paid by the,
00:29:58.120 by the, pardon me,
00:30:00.620 thousands of reporters
00:30:01.560 were being paid by the
00:30:02.640 CIA to warp the news.
00:30:05.200 This was his shot
00:30:06.860 against the bow for
00:30:08.780 the establishment
00:30:09.580 and for Bob Woodward.
00:30:11.000 If you think you're
00:30:12.060 going to move ahead
00:30:12.880 and continue to dine
00:30:14.040 out on this Watergate
00:30:15.500 fiction that we have
00:30:16.540 both created, you've
00:30:19.300 got another thing
00:30:20.240 coming.
00:30:21.300 Slowly, I think that
00:30:22.820 the truth is coming
00:30:24.000 out about Watergate,
00:30:26.440 but the media is
00:30:28.100 committed to this
00:30:29.860 false narrative.
00:30:33.200 And I, I'm going to
00:30:34.240 go to you, Troy.
00:30:34.920 I kind of think, if
00:30:36.760 you look at this
00:30:37.600 linearly, the take
00:30:40.120 out of John F.
00:30:41.920 Kennedy, which I
00:30:43.340 believe involves not
00:30:44.860 only Vice President
00:30:45.660 Johnson as kind of
00:30:46.780 the ringleader, but
00:30:47.920 the Central Intelligence
00:30:49.140 Agency, organized
00:30:50.520 crime, the
00:30:52.500 acquiescence and
00:30:53.720 assistance of the
00:30:54.460 Secret Service, the
00:30:55.920 FBI, particularly in
00:30:57.080 the cover-up stage,
00:30:58.900 Big Texas, oil,
00:31:00.780 international interests,
00:31:02.340 and some banking
00:31:03.180 interests, those same
00:31:05.120 people are the people
00:31:06.760 that Richard Nixon so
00:31:07.920 greatly threatened.
00:31:08.940 In his own book,
00:31:10.980 RN, his memoirs, and
00:31:12.320 also the extensive
00:31:15.080 diary of his chief of
00:31:17.340 staff, H.R.
00:31:18.380 Haldeman, which is
00:31:19.240 fascinating to read,
00:31:20.940 Nixon was planning an
00:31:21.980 entire reorganization of
00:31:23.760 our intelligence
00:31:24.360 community and our
00:31:26.080 national security
00:31:26.900 apparatus to take
00:31:27.940 hands out, power out
00:31:29.380 of the hands of
00:31:30.520 unelected bureaucrats.
00:31:32.220 And, of course, he
00:31:32.760 had a deep distrust of
00:31:34.880 the Central Intelligence
00:31:35.720 Agency, and we know
00:31:37.880 why, because he was
00:31:39.940 aware of their role in
00:31:41.400 the murder of John F.
00:31:42.360 Kennedy.
00:31:43.140 I uncovered the tape
00:31:44.940 where he tells Richard
00:31:45.980 Helms, look, I know
00:31:47.780 who shot John.
00:31:49.000 You can find it on
00:31:49.700 Substack.
00:31:51.580 He was a threat to
00:31:53.940 the exact same people
00:31:55.080 that Jack Kennedy was
00:31:56.520 a threat to.
00:31:57.440 Kennedy did not want
00:31:58.500 war.
00:31:58.920 They wanted war.
00:32:00.140 Kennedy wanted a
00:32:00.800 silverback dollar.
00:32:01.800 They didn't.
00:32:02.980 Kennedy wanted tax
00:32:03.900 cuts.
00:32:04.460 They didn't.
00:32:05.460 Kennedy wanted to
00:32:06.140 avoid war with Russia
00:32:11.160 after the Bay of Pigs.
00:32:13.620 He was taken down
00:32:14.600 because he couldn't be
00:32:15.560 controlled, and he
00:32:16.580 threatened to smash
00:32:17.580 the CIA into a million
00:32:20.100 pieces.
00:32:21.140 Nixon was taken down
00:32:22.300 in a silent coup.
00:32:24.080 These are the same
00:32:24.780 interests that tried,
00:32:26.380 as I will prove
00:32:27.120 shortly in a new book,
00:32:28.180 to assassinate Ronald
00:32:29.700 Reagan.
00:32:30.540 There's a CIA component
00:32:32.180 there that's quite
00:32:33.440 provable, as well as
00:32:34.980 the direct involvement
00:32:35.880 of Vice President
00:32:37.120 George Bush, the man
00:32:38.420 with the most to gain.
00:32:40.140 These are, of course,
00:32:41.140 the same people who
00:32:43.040 later tried to take
00:32:44.480 Reagan down in Iran-Contra,
00:32:46.920 which was a Bill Casey,
00:32:48.620 George Bush production,
00:32:49.860 along with Oliver North.
00:32:51.080 The same people who
00:32:53.280 tried to take
00:32:54.300 Donald Trump down
00:32:55.980 in the completely
00:32:57.440 phony and now
00:32:58.480 thoroughly debunked
00:32:59.900 Russian collusion
00:33:00.820 hoax to phony
00:33:02.780 impeachments, and
00:33:04.120 when those didn't
00:33:04.740 work, they tried to
00:33:05.920 bankrupt him, then
00:33:07.360 they tried to
00:33:07.940 incarcerate him.
00:33:08.840 They're still trying,
00:33:10.060 and yes, indeed,
00:33:11.540 they have now tried
00:33:12.300 to kill him.
00:33:13.660 You owe substantial
00:33:15.000 taxes to the IRS.
00:33:17.000 Well, my wife and I do,
00:33:18.920 but, you see, unlike
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00:33:21.900 reported every single
00:33:23.340 dime of incomes and
00:33:24.740 were completely
00:33:25.460 forthright about our
00:33:26.820 meager assets, and we
00:33:29.560 were ultimately able to
00:33:30.800 work out a settlement
00:33:32.140 with the IRS.
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00:34:39.400 Troy, your thoughts?
00:34:41.500 Well, Roger, you know,
00:34:42.680 the incredible thing
00:34:44.280 about Nixon to me is
00:34:45.560 he has this triumph,
00:34:47.060 this incredible triumph,
00:34:49.380 which before Donald
00:34:51.180 Trump's reascension to
00:34:52.460 the nominee, you know,
00:34:54.000 to being the nominee
00:34:54.660 this year, I think was
00:34:55.640 the only political
00:34:57.340 comeback we could really
00:34:58.280 point to in presidential
00:34:59.400 politics, the only time
00:35:00.480 that somebody had failed
00:35:01.660 and come back and won.
00:35:03.500 And that is such a
00:35:04.780 testament to the strength
00:35:06.020 of this man.
00:35:06.780 You know, I was watching
00:35:07.800 the clips today, Roger,
00:35:09.020 of Nixon saying goodbye
00:35:10.700 to everybody and leaving,
00:35:12.220 and he's joyous.
00:35:14.120 He reminds me really
00:35:16.140 a lot of Trump,
00:35:17.780 maybe in, of course,
00:35:18.960 a lesser fashion,
00:35:20.580 when Trump holds up
00:35:21.640 the fist and says,
00:35:22.640 fight, fight, fight.
00:35:23.320 It reminds me of that
00:35:24.240 kind of spirit of this
00:35:25.480 happy warrior is how
00:35:27.140 I like to describe it.
00:35:28.780 And you saw,
00:35:30.320 for anybody,
00:35:30.900 we have the clip,
00:35:31.860 I think that we can
00:35:32.560 actually roll here,
00:35:33.500 of Nixon departing
00:35:34.540 the White House.
00:35:34.940 I want to roll this
00:35:35.640 and get Roger's thoughts
00:35:36.900 because in the wake
00:35:38.580 of all that's happening,
00:35:39.680 to see this clip,
00:35:40.580 to see Nixon kind of smiling,
00:35:42.840 putting up his peace signs,
00:35:43.940 as Roger often does,
00:35:46.040 it put a smile on my face
00:35:47.460 and it showed me that
00:35:48.500 no matter how bad things get,
00:35:50.260 you know,
00:35:50.400 this guy was the center
00:35:51.720 of really the biggest
00:35:53.600 controversy in the history
00:35:54.780 of American politics,
00:35:56.380 especially considering
00:35:57.380 it happened in the TV era
00:35:58.740 and we really saw,
00:36:00.240 you know,
00:36:01.200 the press conferences
00:36:02.040 and things like that.
00:36:02.840 So let's roll this
00:36:03.940 and get Roger's thoughts
00:36:04.840 on this moment in history
00:36:06.680 because just amazing
00:36:08.300 to see his spirit
00:36:09.860 in this kind of face
00:36:11.200 of failing,
00:36:13.460 achieving it
00:36:14.280 and then actually
00:36:15.080 having it taken away
00:36:16.080 from him.
00:36:17.540 You know,
00:36:17.860 it's kind of an amazing
00:36:18.940 testament to how strong
00:36:20.480 this man was.
00:36:21.260 Let's roll that clip.
00:36:38.300 Thank you.
00:36:43.400 Thank you.
00:36:44.300 Thank you.
00:36:44.480 Thank you.
00:36:52.220 I'll see you next time.
00:36:52.940 Bye.
00:36:54.720 Bye.
00:36:56.460 Bye.
00:36:58.020 Bye.
00:37:02.520 Bye.
00:37:04.720 Bye.
00:37:06.620 I shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow.
00:37:15.380 Vice President Ford will be sworn in as president at that hour in this office.
00:37:36.620 5th May 11a.
00:37:52.780 Thank you.
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00:42:42.760 I don't think there's any president in history who has been so showed such humanity as Richard Nixon did.
00:42:48.820 And the day that he had to give up and walk out in front of the world, what what he had worked a lifetime to and frankly had earned through blood, sweat and tears over over a lifetime of toil and righteously had won a huge victory and had the had the support of the American people.
00:43:08.360 And what still is the greatest electoral victory for any president. And, you know, he stood there and said, others may hate you, but if you they don't win unless you hate them and then you've destroyed yourself.
00:43:22.240 And that was he really in that speech, I think that that alone and these those these were contemporaneous remarks from the heart for the most part in his farewell to the White House staff.
00:43:33.600 And I I never get tired of watching that because, as you quoted from it, Roger, it is so full of nuggets of wisdom.
00:43:40.220 But such humanity, no president has ever bared their bared themselves that way.
00:43:45.840 The emotion, the humility, and in such a such a harsh moment, I mean, knowing not only that he had to leave the presidency, but but also that these scum who had been pursuing him, this this media lynch mob had had prevailed.
00:44:02.880 And that the, you know, the manipulative Democrat partisans who, you know, ran the special prosecutor and in Congress had had won.
00:44:11.760 And, you know, very much he was a gentleman and he went on to become probably the greatest former president, ex president in our history.
00:44:21.400 No question about that. He contributed more probably, I would say, to the to the to this nation and to to the political discourse and to raising the level of of debate and discussion about foreign policy.
00:44:37.180 Then probably every predecessor or excuse me, every successor of his combined.
00:44:43.100 When you look at Obama, what is Obama done except, you know, run run a puppet show with Joe Biden and see the about Donald Trump's election?
00:44:52.400 You know, what is, frankly, George W. Bush on these guys just go off in the into oblivion and either do an Obama or pull Bush.
00:45:00.580 But either way, Nixon contributed so much. I mean, his his post presidency was probably one of the greatest periods.
00:45:07.640 I mean, easily as great in terms of his output as any other period of his life.
00:45:12.120 And, Roger, you know this, you worked with him at that time, and I'm sure you could speak to that.
00:45:16.420 But Nixon will I believe he will only grow in stature and greatness in the eyes of anybody who studies his life and listens to his speeches and reads his his works.
00:45:26.480 And it's deservedly so. And the scum of the earth, like these these pishers, these yapping gutter snipes like Nick Ackerman, frankly, Woodward and all they'll be in the dustbin of history that they thought they put Nixon in and Nixon will endure through the ages.
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00:48:22.320 The momentous leaving of Richard Nixon 50 years ago still reverberates in our politics.
00:48:31.020 For me, of course, it has very deep meaning.
00:48:34.440 It's why we wanted to dedicate today's show to it, but we'll be back to the calamity that is Governor Tim Walz.
00:48:44.900 And we may even do a special edition, Saturday edition of the Stone Zone, because Joe Biden very clearly said that he was not confident of a peaceful transfer of power if Donald Trump won.
00:49:02.840 That's what he said.
00:49:04.140 Then he corrected himself.
00:49:06.060 I believe he blurted out the truth, as Alzheimer's patients are known to do.
00:49:11.560 And then, frankly, Congressman Jamie Raskin preaches open insurrection, says that if Trump wins, we in the House will not certify him under the 14th Amendment, even though there is no judgment where he's been convicted of the 14th Amendment.
00:49:28.600 That would also require both houses and a president to sign it into law.
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00:49:51.020 Troy, what do you think of that idea?
00:49:52.400 I'm always game.
00:49:53.540 I love breaking news here on the Stone Zone.
00:49:56.400 And in particular, you know, the clip that you mentioned about Biden, you know, we have to be prepared for this.
00:50:02.400 And, you know, we broke a story here in the Stone Zone that people have kind of just taken into the the old memory there.
00:50:08.240 And I think people maybe don't remember that it was us that broke this story.
00:50:11.800 But, you know, going back into the early parts of this year, we've been revealing that the Democrats and certain elements of the House Republicans have been working together in order to, you know, prepare for if Trump wins, they can block him from actually they tried blocking him to be on the ballot.
00:50:28.720 They actually have bills that are floating around the House right now that will prevent him from becoming president, even if he wins the election.
00:50:35.720 So the idea that Biden's out there saying, oh, you know, if Trump wins, there's not going to be a peaceful transfer of power.
00:50:42.620 It's an amazing thing that this hasn't been picked up by the mainstream media or even by conservative outlets.
00:50:48.580 People are very quiet about this.
00:50:50.640 And I think it shows, you know, the the.
00:50:55.280 Never, never, ever underestimate the fact that Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama and all these people sat up there and said Trump will never be president.
00:51:03.000 We will do everything within our power, even, you know, extra constitutionally.
00:51:08.880 They don't care about the Constitution.
00:51:10.540 They don't care about the rule of law.
00:51:12.220 They will do anything, including a stage an event or possibly even start, as Biden kind of alluded to there, Roger, a violent uprising if Trump were to win this election.
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00:53:27.500 All right.
00:53:27.700 I'm going to wrap it up here.
00:53:29.340 Troy, any final thoughts?
00:53:32.100 Well, Roger, I just want to say as far as Nixon is concerned, you know, I wanted to add this part in here.
00:53:37.500 You know, we talked with J.C.
00:53:39.560 Hawkins this week, which I thought, you know, I'm picking up those books as soon as possible.
00:53:43.480 I can't wait to get those where he talks about Bethesda and he talks about the string, basically, of of international communism that has taken its toll on people like William McKinley, people like John F. Kennedy.
00:53:57.220 And I think people like Richard Nixon.
00:53:59.400 I think you're exactly right when you point out that it's the same people that shot McKinley, that shot Kennedy, that that shot at Reagan, that shot at Trump, that eventually take down Nixon.
00:54:10.020 And we have to ask ourselves why.
00:54:12.040 And you look at what you were talking about in Nixon's foreign policy, his main contribution in his post-presidency years.
00:54:18.120 I think Nixon's plan would have taken an incredible amount of power away from international communism.
00:54:26.080 And if you look at what he did, especially with China, it was very crucial that they use the expertise of Nixon to open up China to the United States.
00:54:36.160 But once it was open, it's almost like the details said, well, we're done with you, Richard Nixon, and we don't need you anymore.
00:54:41.500 And they pushed China into communism.
00:54:43.980 And you can't tell me, Roger, that if we had eight years of Richard Nixon, that China would be the same country that it is today.
00:54:50.840 I think it would have been pushed more towards capitalism, away from communism.
00:54:55.080 And it was crucial to the elements of international communism that have killed presidents and shot at others that Richard Nixon be disposed of.
00:55:04.880 And that's exactly what happened.
00:55:06.820 And to come here and talk about it with you is very special.
00:55:09.020 So thank you.
00:55:09.920 And I will hopefully see you on the special weekend edition here.
00:55:13.600 All right.
00:55:14.380 Let's leave it right there.
00:55:15.620 I'm Roger Stone.
00:55:16.740 He's Troy Smith.
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00:55:26.740 Pardon me.
00:55:27.240 Tomorrow, I think we're going to do a special show.
00:55:29.180 But if not, we'll see you Monday.
00:55:31.460 God bless you and Godspeed.
00:55:33.660 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him.
00:55:42.480 Not everybody, but people love him and respect him.
00:55:44.940 Roger Stone.
00:55:46.000 Where's Roger Stone?
00:55:52.940 I don't want to trace it, I don't want to see you Monday.
00:56:00.680 But later, I don't want to trace it.
00:56:05.940 But I'll tell you I told you about Buchanan.
00:56:07.820 Can you tell me the important thing?
00:56:09.560 Do you think it's important?
00:56:09.820 I don't want to see me.
00:56:12.880 Bye-bye.
00:56:15.560 HHHHHHHHH.