The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - September 04, 2026


The Spy Who Sold Out

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00:01:52.520 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:01:55.940 People love him and respect him. Roger Stone.
00:01:58.740 Now, get him a zone. It's the Stone Zone. Here's Roger Stone.
00:02:05.580 You are now jumping headfirst into the Stone Zone.
00:02:10.340 I am, of course, a veteran of 13 national presidential campaigns,
00:02:15.860 probably six decades in the trenches of American politics,
00:02:20.340 and there is nowhere on the radio or the Internet
00:02:23.260 where you can get the kind of political analysis that we serve up here every day in the zone.
00:02:30.400 Surprised by the news today that Maria Bartiromo, one of my all-time favorites at Fox, 1.00
00:02:35.520 I think one of the most incisive questioners out there in the media is leaving Fox. 0.89
00:02:40.680 No answers yet about the circumstances of her leaving,
00:02:44.700 but it does occur to me that she would make a great White House press secretary.
00:02:49.580 I'm not saying I know anything, but I am just throwing it out there.
00:02:52.940 And then I also saw that Ted Cruz, the senator from Texas, is thinking about a 2028 presidential campaign.
00:03:04.620 Why do people take an instantaneous dislike to Ted Cruz when they first meet him?
00:03:09.180 Well, they're only saving time.
00:03:11.420 Ted Cruz, who I always thought kind of looked like Grandpa Munster, is not a viable candidate because the neocon wing of the Republican Party, once in complete and total control, when Ted Cruz essentially was hired to be George W. Bush's brain during his presidential campaign.
00:03:33.480 Ted Cruz, I think, is out of step with where today's Republican Party is, and I predict that he could not hold a candle to J.D. Vance, who is the presumptive frontrunner, or Secretary of State Marco Rubio if he decided to run, or even dark horse candidate Tulsi Gabbard.
00:03:51.060 So Ted Cruz, the claims, of course, about his father and the Kennedy assassination, those come right out of the Warren Commission reports and the exhibits.
00:04:02.300 The fact that Ted Cruz's father was, in fact, part of Lee Harvey Oswald's crew in New Orleans prior to the Kennedy assassination does not, by the way, mean that Ted Cruz's father was involved in the assassination of JFK.
00:04:17.060 KFK, but he was definitely involved with the intelligence agencies surrounding that, which
00:04:23.380 raises a number of reasonable questions.
00:04:26.760 President Trump is now announcing he's preparing to spend the final month before the midterms
00:04:31.860 campaigning at full throttle.
00:04:33.500 I can tell you from my experience that this can make a huge difference.
00:04:38.020 In 1970, Nixon hit the campaign trail, saving a number of Republican seats in what is normally
00:04:45.040 And historically, the power, the party out of power always loses strength in both houses.
00:04:51.260 Speaking to Republican lawmakers and a bunch of administration officials at the White House Rose Garden dinner the other night, President Trump said he intends to focus on roughly 35 competitive races beginning in October.
00:05:04.520 His plans include heavy travel, his, of course, traditional signature rallies, tele-rallies and tele-town halls, potentially several in a single night.
00:05:13.460 This is going to be typical frenetic energy by Donald J. Trump.
00:05:18.700 President Trump specifically mentioned Alaska Senator Dan Sullivan, where as a dirty trick, Democrats have gotten an independent whose name is also Dan Sullivan to file as a candidate.
00:05:29.800 and an obvious dirty trick designed to confuse voters in that state,
00:05:33.960 but also for Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton,
00:05:38.140 who's running for the U.S. Senate against far-left socialist Democrat James Talafrico,
00:05:45.220 as the president calls him, actually Talarico.
00:05:48.220 The full list of targeted contests has not yet been released.
00:05:51.860 President Trump describes the plan as a return to the punishing schedule
00:05:55.740 He used in the closing stretches of both his 2016 campaign, also his incredible 2024 presidential comeback campaign, saying he intends to devote essentially an incredible amount of time to the final push heading into the midterms.
00:06:12.060 Now, I can tell you why this is significant.
00:06:14.480 You see, a White House appearance dominates local television markets, helps the candidate raise money and energizes supporters.
00:06:21.680 It can also nationalize a race that a congressional candidate might prefer to keep local.
00:06:28.540 That makes the reported 35 race plan a useful map of how President Trump himself views the battlefield.
00:06:36.940 In other words, watch where he actually travels.
00:06:39.840 Watch which candidates receive remote events.
00:06:42.660 Watch where outside money flows.
00:06:45.060 And watch where races that never make the list are and how those are handled.
00:06:50.960 The enthusiastically pro-MAGA candidates should be, and I think will be, the focal point of this tour, but not the rhinos who are on the ballot.
00:06:59.400 President Trump can serve as the closer who will seal the deal with voters so that the MAGA candidates get elected and change the culture in Washington.
00:07:08.280 The final weeks are when casual voters begin paying attention and small shifts become decisive in close contests.
00:07:15.900 President Trump's presence is enough to shift races and change the fate of our nation.
00:07:21.020 I'm not one of those panicans ready to throw in the towel on the midterm elections.
00:07:25.100 I'm sorry to see so many who are.
00:07:28.600 Our politics is extraordinarily volatile.
00:07:31.680 President Trump brings great star power and a great record to the arena.
00:07:36.700 And all Republican candidates should breathe a sigh of relief.
00:07:40.200 Perhaps the greatest campaigner in political history, and that takes in a lot of my heroes,
00:07:44.540 Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and others, is going to hit the campaign trail.
00:07:49.780 He also, by the way, to remind you, he has a $400 million war chest at the MAGA, Inc. PAC.
00:07:57.320 That'll be $600 million, I predict, over time.
00:08:00.720 If you put the Republican Party funds at the House, Senate, and National Committee level,
00:08:07.420 he has essentially a $1 billion war chest.
00:08:11.720 contrast that with the Democrats they have about 16 million on hand and they have a very heavy
00:08:19.080 debt of at least I think 18 million dollars that they still owe from Kamala Harris's disastrous
00:08:26.840 campaign sorry I have to bring this up again but I'm afraid I must that is the issue of
00:08:33.000 Alison Guerrero, Alison Guerrero was the one time mistress of a of Charles McGonigal, the head of the FBI's counterintelligence operation, who had a heavy hand in the Russian collusion hoax.
00:08:48.980 Turns out that he was taking payments from the Russian oligarch, Oleg Deripaska, and Alison Guerrero was was essential in terms of turning him in.
00:09:01.860 Allison Guerrero was found dead in her apartment in South Florida on August 27th.
00:09:07.160 Now, I was a very good friend of Allison Guerrero's.
00:09:10.000 In fact, I worked with her every single day.
00:09:12.400 She was a researcher for Stone Zone, and I communicated with her both the day of her death and again the day before,
00:09:20.840 meaning we were in contact when she suddenly suspiciously died.
00:09:25.360 She was engaged in her work.
00:09:27.220 She was upbeat.
00:09:28.020 She was focused.
00:09:28.780 She seemed happy.
00:09:29.560 She was not, in my first-hand judgment, behaving like someone preparing to take their own life.
00:09:36.760 We still don't have a police report.
00:09:38.840 We still don't have the results of a medical examination or an autopsy. 0.90
00:09:44.640 But she took enormous personal risks to become an FBI whistleblower. 0.99
00:09:49.840 She took those risks not because she was unstable, but rather because she loved her country and she desired to expose the corruption.
00:09:57.440 When she dated McGonagall, she was lied to and told that he was divorcing or divorced, and that turned out to be not true.
00:10:05.080 Her information helped expose the disgraced former FBI counterintelligence official,
00:10:11.440 who later pled guilty in separate federal cases involving concealed foreign payments
00:10:17.000 and were connected to the sanctioned Russian oligarch, again, Oleg Deripaska.
00:10:22.640 Allison was still pursuing corruption inside the FBI.
00:10:25.480 That's one of the things that makes me suspicious about her death. 1.00
00:10:28.820 She was still naming names.
00:10:31.060 She was still working. 0.97
00:10:32.720 And she told me she was receiving multiple threats because of her whistleblower activity.
00:10:38.120 I also know that she was having strange problems with her cell phone and her Internet in the 48 hours before her death.
00:10:46.360 She was also, by the way, a deeply religious and devout Roman Catholic.
00:10:50.560 And that was not a minor detail in her life.
00:10:53.040 It actually shaped very much who she was and how she viewed the world.
00:10:57.900 So I'm not prepared to accept any premature narrative on how Allison died,
00:11:02.740 but I will resist any rush to conclude that she took her own life,
00:11:07.480 and I will do everything I can to be sure the evidence is independently examined
00:11:11.300 and any potential cover-up is thwarted.
00:11:14.540 Allison's father says the family is still waiting for the medical examiner.
00:11:19.760 The Boynton Beach Police say the cause of death has not been publicly established.
00:11:24.260 We must consider the threats, look at the communications, carefully examine the timeline, and peer through the medical evidence.
00:11:31.920 We must talk to the people who actually spoke to her in her final hours.
00:11:35.740 I was one of them.
00:11:37.040 Allison Guerrero deserves to be heard when she was alive, and she deserves the truth now.
00:11:41.940 I will fight for justice for Allison Guerrero.
00:11:44.700 It is what she deserves.
00:11:45.920 I'm not making a premature judgment other than to say I fervently deny that she took her own life.
00:11:52.840 Whether she died as part of an accident or whether it was foul play, well, we just don't know the answer to that yet.
00:11:59.640 We'll be reporting on this in the zone as she would have wanted.
00:12:03.660 Meanwhile, China doesn't need an army marching down Pennsylvania Avenue. 0.92
00:12:07.300 We can just recruit the weak-willed and disloyal Americans already inside the country. 0.90
00:12:12.880 Thomas W. Paukin, the second American journalist whose father I actually know, 0.98
00:12:18.620 spent years working in China, has just been sentenced to two years in federal prison
00:12:23.380 after admitting that he acted as an agent of the Chinese government inside the United States.
00:12:28.680 His father, Tom Paukin, was the chairman of the College of Republicans
00:12:32.140 before I was chairman of the Young Republican National Federation.
00:12:36.280 So clearly the apple has fallen very far from the tree.
00:12:39.940 This is, by the way, not an anonymous source story. It's not a congressional accusation.
00:12:46.240 Young Palkin decided to plead guilty to the charges, according to the Justice Department.
00:12:51.980 He worked from at least 2019 until February of 2026 at the direction of individuals connected to China's Ministry of State Security.
00:13:01.660 He received at least $100,000, met with prospective intelligence assets, supplied some of the communications devices, passed along tasking, and prepared reports for his Chinese handlers.
00:13:15.080 The Department of Justice says that Paukin also attempted to identify people who might provide sensitive information and dealt with Chinese clients seeking American technology and other Justice Department information.
00:13:28.260 His attorney claims Palkin did not actually transmit classified material to Beijing
00:13:34.920 But even if that is technically true, it does not erase conduct to which he pled guilty
00:13:40.360 Working for the Communist Party or for the Chinese government is a crime
00:13:46.620 Writing commentary favorable to China is protected speech 1.00
00:13:49.780 Americans are free to say foolish and dumb things 0.99
00:13:53.160 Express opinions that are abhorrent or repugnant 0.99
00:13:56.320 But the line is crossed when an American secretly takes direction from a foreign intelligence apparatus and begins to help recruit, collect, penetrate.
00:14:06.360 That is a crime and is called treason.
00:14:09.960 China's competition with the United States is not confined to just tariffs or semiconductors or naval tonnage or just disagreement over the future of Taiwan.
00:14:20.360 Intelligence recruitment is part of the same contest.
00:14:23.420 Influence operations are cheaper than aircraft carriers and often much, much harder to detect. 0.93
00:14:29.680 China is notoriously adept at subversion. 0.98
00:14:32.740 Young Palkin was an example of a spineless person who was taken in by China and then used by them. 1.00
00:14:38.940 He doesn't deserve our sympathy. 0.95
00:14:40.520 His case serves a lesson to anyone doing business with China that there are lines you simply cannot cross or you will be prosecuted. 0.80
00:14:49.100 People need to wake up to the fact that it is China, not Russia, who is the greatest threat to this country. 0.84
00:14:55.140 The Chinese Communist Party has deeply infiltrated all strata of life here in the United States, 0.89
00:15:00.680 buying up huge swaths of very desirable farmland, ranch land, 0.62
00:15:05.460 but also specifically buying up land contiguous to national security facilities.
00:15:11.300 They've also infiltrated academia, business, all strata of America life.
00:15:16.680 The CCP is the number one enemy of the United States.
00:15:21.620 I'm sad to see that young Tom Palkin, son of a guy who's actually a friend of mine, fell for their nonsense and became essentially a spy for the Chinese Communist Party.
00:15:31.740 I'm Roger Stone, telling it like it is right here in the Stone Zone. 0.60
00:15:34.920 Don't go away because we'll be right back.
00:15:37.700 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:15:41.080 He likes politics and he's a professional at the highest level.
00:15:45.920 Roger Stone.
00:15:47.020 Where's Roger?
00:15:56.240 The Stone Zone.
00:15:58.440 Entertaining and informative.
00:16:00.600 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:16:11.080 this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's a very very one of the smartest
00:16:18.820 political minds roger stone was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant
00:16:23.600 political analyst now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone
00:16:30.240 welcome back into the stone zone where of course we're talking politics once again
00:16:36.440 New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdami, no surprise here, has created a network of influencers who have paid up to $20,000 per post to create the false impression that his socialist beliefs are actually popular.
00:16:51.260 A group of influencers on the encrypted message app Signal, with over 200 members, are reportedly fed their talking points by Amelia Rowland, who works as director of new media and cultural communications for the mayor's office.
00:17:05.060 Now, while Mandami's office does not pay these influencers directly, the influencers are paid by city agencies for work on different campaigns.
00:17:14.520 These influencers have between tens of thousands and millions of followers, so they certainly have the way to seriously impact public opinion.
00:17:22.660 That is precisely the idea.
00:17:25.100 Influences are not legally allowed to disclose that they're paid operatives when making their posts, 0.88
00:17:30.280 adding a layer of deception to what Mamdami's entire sordid operation is doing here. 0.77
00:17:35.720 This has become a very big issue.
00:17:37.600 My good friend, Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna, has just sponsored legislation,
00:17:42.340 required that if you are paid by a foreign government or a foreign entity,
00:17:47.860 and you're posting stuff on social media, online, whether it's Instagram, whether it's YouTube,
00:17:53.120 whether it's x whether it's true social that you have to disclose who is paying you in order to
00:17:59.960 obscure the money trail in this case the influencers paid through advertising and
00:18:04.200 marketing companies that have lucrative contracts with the city of new york this way they obscure
00:18:09.700 the paper trail and they create plausible deniability that they hope will shield them
00:18:14.260 from culpability and the identification that they're actually paid voices democrats are
00:18:20.880 attempting to defend the scheme by saying that paying off influencers to spread messages is a
00:18:26.300 more cost effective way of promotion than using television ads well but television ads require a
00:18:33.300 legal disclaimer required to say both audibly and visually who paid for it but that ignores the
00:18:40.000 seediness of this new york city campaign by the mayor the public sees the television campaign
00:18:44.940 understands that it's inauthentic when they see posts by influences they're led to think that
00:18:49.500 those folks are sincere, that they're indigenous, that they're original, that they're homegrown.
00:18:55.540 The socialists are always adept at messaging, and Mamdami's scheme shows how far the far left
00:19:01.140 will not hesitate to resort to, in terms of deceptiveness, to gain political advantages
00:19:06.060 under false pretenses. But the worst part of this is, your tax dollars are being paid for
00:19:12.400 online messaging to benefit the radical leftist progressive Islamic mayor of New York City. 0.72
00:19:21.420 Your tax dollars. That I have never seen before. It is important, I think, that these people who
00:19:27.600 are doing this should be required to say who's paying them. Of course, they're not going to do
00:19:31.920 that. I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to The Stone Zone. When we come back, I want to focus on
00:19:36.780 the family of convicted murderer Carmelo Anthony, because she's once again out in public begging
00:19:42.720 for money. I'm going to tell you where not to send your funds. Don't go away. We'll be right back
00:19:49.160 in The Stone Zone. The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:20:06.780 this is the stone zone now get in the zone it's the stone zone a man who's gone through hell
00:20:16.300 but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him not everybody but
00:20:22.660 people love him and respect him roger stone where's roger stone here's roger stone
00:20:28.200 welcome back into the stone zone you know sometimes these leftists they shocked even
00:20:35.140 In May, in this case, the family of convicted murderer Carmelo Anthony, once again out in public begging for money on their Give, Send, Go fundraiser,
00:20:44.340 where they've raised about $27,000 for an appeal for Anthony after reportedly squandering almost $600,000 that was raised previously.
00:20:53.640 They're back at it again.
00:20:55.000 Even woke leftists have gotten the message that they were being scammed.
00:20:58.200 Additionally, more information about Carmelo Anthony has emerged. 0.98
00:21:01.820 Anthony reportedly sent text messages bragging about how he wanted to stab someone and lick 0.68
00:21:08.000 the blood off the blade. Turns out that he was not some innocent teenager defending himself at all,
00:21:14.840 but now even the BLM leftists who always take the side of the criminal, at least when they have the
00:21:20.580 right content of melanin in their skin, are no longer rallying to Anthony's defense. It's the
00:21:27.660 same situation of all of these racially charged cases. A criminal is turned into a martyr. Then
00:21:32.560 there's a media frenzy that turns reality upside down. We saw it peak during the summer of 2020
00:21:38.340 when violent felon and fentanyl enthusiast George Floyd died while resisting arrest amid a police
00:21:45.380 encounter. The media and the organized left was able to gin up public rage and our entire country
00:21:51.260 burned as a result. Very few people went to jail over that multi-million dollar destruction of
00:21:57.580 public property and the many people injured but the public i think is finally waking up they're
00:22:03.300 seeing the patterns in the cases although there was a fervent core of deranged maniacs who initially 0.95
00:22:09.300 rallied around anthony his cause ultimately failed and caused national outrage that's because black
00:22:15.800 lives matter and wokeism i think has peaked it does not mean that they cannot regain their lost 0.62
00:22:20.600 momentum or that we're in the clear on a permanent basis we must remain vigilant against this threat
00:22:25.600 but it has shown the amount of progress that the MAGA movement has made in the culture war in this country.
00:22:31.940 Carmelo Anthony will be rotting in jail for many decades and deservedly so for the heinous, unjustified murder of the teenager Austin Metcalf.
00:22:43.640 In the meantime, the House of Representatives had a chance to permanently fix the Supreme Court at nine justices,
00:22:51.140 but that didn't happen thanks to far-left Democrat obstructions.
00:22:54.800 House Republicans brought forward a constitutional amendment that would have locked the current size of the court into the Constitution at nine justices.
00:23:04.920 The measure received a 212 to 206 majority, but fell far short of the two-thirds vote required for a constitutional amendment in the House.
00:23:15.100 The Constitution itself does not specify the number of justices. Congress has changed the size several times, and the court has remained at nine since 1869.
00:23:24.800 Republicans framed the vote as an attempt to remove court expansion from future partisan warfare.
00:23:33.520 Democratic opponents argued that the constitutionally, by constitutionalizing nine seats, would freeze and place an advantage currently created by President Donald Trump's three appointments, as if Trump somehow manipulated reality to give himself an appointment advantage.
00:23:50.000 Now, there's a history to this, and that history is impossible to ignore.
00:23:54.180 President Franklin Delano Roosevelt tried to expand the court in 1937 when some of the justices frustrated the more socialistic parts of the New Deal.
00:24:06.840 Congress rejected him and the court packing became a political weapon and it won't be able for generations.
00:24:14.200 Roosevelt actually badly was defeated in a midterm election over his court packing plan.
00:24:19.440 The idea returned after the court developed its current 6-3 conservative majority, how coincidental, and it began to issue major rulings on abortion, gun rights, and others that offended the administrative state.
00:24:33.160 Now, some Democrat lawmakers have backed legislation expanding the court to 13 seats.
00:24:39.860 It's so obvious that Democrats will vote to expand the court as soon as they possibly can.
00:24:44.820 That's why these midterm elections are so incredibly important.
00:24:48.200 The amendment has always been a long shot, but it also would need two-thirds of the Senate,
00:24:52.900 and then it would have to be ratified by 38 states.
00:24:56.800 But it's still worth pushing forward to make the Democrats prove where they stand.
00:25:01.040 Packing the U.S. Supreme Court is overwhelmingly unpopular with the American people.
00:25:05.080 They're very satisfied with the current nine justices.
00:25:08.280 So this symbolic vote has revealed an institutional fault line that will prove instructive during the midterms.
00:25:14.620 But sadly, that's all it will be.
00:25:16.080 When a political faction can change the referee when they dislike the calls, well, the integrity of the game falls apart completely.
00:25:26.680 Republicans simply cannot allow that to happen.
00:25:29.800 Meanwhile, Republican Congresswoman Laura Lee and Senator Ashley Moody of Florida are proposing one national rule for federal mail-in ballots requiring election officials to have the ballot before the polls close on Election Day.
00:25:44.440 Lee, Florida's former Secretary of State, has introduced the House legislation while Senator Moody of Florida is carrying the Senate bill.
00:25:53.780 The proposal does not abolish absentee voting or mail-in voting. It simply clarifies what the finish line is.
00:26:01.180 States could still distribute ballots according to their own state laws, but a ballot arriving after Election Day would not count in any federal race.
00:26:10.120 The legislation follows the Trump administration's efforts to impose a similar deadline through executive action, some of which may have become entangled in this litigation.
00:26:19.720 Lee points to Florida as proof that a receipt deadline can coexist with substantial mail-in voting, providing voters receive clear instructions and understand the rules and are given enough time to return the mail-in ballots.
00:26:33.460 The political appeal here, to me, is obvious. Campaigns want finality. Voters want understandable rules. Long post-election counting periods create suspicion, even if nothing improper has occurred, although that is rarely the case.
00:26:49.560 there's no reason why the process is elongated unnecessarily except for to enable fraud or
00:26:55.640 cheating. Every election system has a cutoff somewhere. Federal races should share one
00:27:01.120 national endpoint rather than operating under 50 different receipt rules. Democrats hide behind
00:27:07.180 federalism and decentralization in order to enact loose election laws that allow them to commit
00:27:12.420 fraud. Although I still remain opposed to federal legislation, I think it is up to states to
00:27:17.880 regulate their elections. But it's laughable now that the party that loves centralized control
00:27:22.600 on virtually every other has problems when it comes to election integrity. Their objections
00:27:27.340 should not be taken seriously, and Republicans must move forward to steamroll their machine
00:27:32.640 designed to steal elections. So in this case, Congresswoman Lee and Senator Moody have proposed
00:27:37.580 a common sense rule that gives clarity to our election process. Congress now owns the question
00:27:43.340 because legislation, unlike an executive order, creates a durable statutory rule.
00:27:49.160 The deadline will create additional public confidence in a system that has proven to be very faulty in recent years.
00:27:57.080 It must be passed immediately along, of course, with the Save America Act,
00:28:01.480 protect the honesty and integrity of our elections.
00:28:05.900 Well, Elon Musk is back and Texas is getting his first big check.
00:28:10.100 Elon Musk is back in the political money game, and his first major disclosure in the midterm spending burst tells us exactly where the pressure point lies.
00:28:18.920 Elon Musk's America PAC, reportedly more than $800,000 in August of independent expenditures planned across competitive Senate and House races around the country.
00:28:30.580 Texas received the largest share, about $248,000, as Republican Attorney General Ken Paxton faces far-left Democrat James Talarico, called Talafrico by President Donald Trump, in a race national Republicans can no longer treat as an automatic hold.
00:28:50.240 The fact that Texas could go blue is in itself a commentary on the demographic changes going on in the Lone Star State.
00:29:00.140 Maine received about $170,000, followed by Ohio, New Hampshire, Iowa, Michigan, and Alaska with additional spending in competitive house districts.
00:29:11.440 The expenditures were largely for printed campaign material, while America PAC can separately purchase digital advertising.
00:29:18.700 Musk previously suggested he would dramatically reduce his political spending after becoming the largest individual donor in the 2024 election.
00:29:28.860 Instead, reports say he has authorized his America PAC to spend more than $100 million helping Republicans this year.
00:29:37.260 So the detente between Elon Musk and the MAGA movement is therefore becoming measurable in dollars, making previous frustrations seem like a distant memory.
00:29:47.220 It's great to have Elon Musk, who I'm a great admirer of, back in the fold.
00:29:51.200 And of course, he says he's spending $100 million today.
00:29:54.640 He has the ability to make that $200 million tomorrow if he wishes to do so.
00:29:59.580 I believe he is the richest man on the planet.
00:30:03.000 Musk is an unusual political asset because, well, he combines virtually unlimited financial capacity with something traditional mega donors have never possessed.
00:30:12.640 Control of one of the country's dominant political communications platforms.
00:30:16.620 Sheldon Adelson, for example, had money.
00:30:19.160 George Soros built institutions, but Musk has money and the X platform.
00:30:23.880 plus his own celebrity and his willingness to intervene personally.
00:30:28.880 That makes him a genuine, pardon the pun here, X factor against the historical midterm tendency
00:30:35.500 for the president's party to lose ground in a midterm election.
00:30:40.360 Texas being the first on spending also shows that Musk has his finger on the pulse of exactly what is necessary in the upcoming midterms.
00:30:48.760 Attorney General Ken Paxton faces an expensive statewide media market
00:30:53.380 and a well-funded opponent he's also been been deprived of establishing republican funding 0.88
00:30:59.100 because he defeated the rhino competitor incumbent john cornyn in the primary so now suddenly the
00:31:06.840 national republican senatorial committee which spent six figures i think it was six hundred
00:31:12.460 thousand dollars to try to boost the chances of cornyn says they have no money for ken paxton
00:31:18.620 leaving him to fend for himself well Elon Musk and his America PAC is riding to the rescue
00:31:25.420 and making these triage decisions now Musk showed in 2024 this political operation could be trusted
00:31:32.800 and it's a blessing to have him back in the fall once again Texas is a perfect example of a place
00:31:38.840 where he can make a real difference meanwhile the Trump administration has found another
00:31:43.300 immigration battlefield and this one sits inside state government databases rather than along our
00:31:48.260 borders. The Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel says states participating in the
00:31:54.540 temporary assistance for needy families and supplemental security income must report
00:32:00.940 individuals they know to be unlawfully present to the Department of Homeland Security. The
00:32:06.660 important word there is state. So DOJ now says Congress meant the entire state government, not
00:32:12.220 merely the specific welfare agency administering the funds in this case. That reverses a 1998
00:32:19.820 Clinton-era interpretation that treated the obligation much more narrowly. All 50 states
00:32:25.940 participate in these programs, and the federal grants exceed over $16.4 billion annually.
00:32:33.260 The Department of Justice says the new interpretation will apply prospectively, and
00:32:38.000 States will not be punished retroactively for relying on this old guidance. This is potentially
00:32:44.460 more consequential than an ICE raid in terms of combating illegal immigration. You see,
00:32:49.540 modern government already possesses enormous amounts of information. Benefits agencies know
00:32:55.180 things. Motor vehicle departments know things. Licensing offices know things. The administration's
00:33:02.640 argument is that immigration enforcement becomes theater when one arm of the government
00:33:07.120 possesses legally relevant information while another is forbidden from receiving it.
00:33:12.060 The legal fight will turn on statutory language, federalism, and the meaning of the word known.
00:33:18.880 Suspicion is not knowledge. A name, accent, or foreign birthplace does not establish unlawful status.
00:33:25.740 That distinction matters because sloppy implementation would create obvious due process arguments
00:33:31.480 that could head to the courts. States and advocacy organizations may challenge the
00:33:36.680 Department of Justice's interpretation in court, and some governors will undoubtedly attempt
00:33:41.900 to resist. But the administration is not describing this as a new statute. Congress imposed this
00:33:49.100 obligation in the 1996 welfare law. The Trump administration is declaring that the government
00:33:55.700 meant what it said, and therefore these databases in the hands of state governments
00:34:01.580 can reveal an enormous amount about who is on them that is not a legal citizen and they can then be
00:34:08.420 matched with the voter files to sort out those who are planning or will vote illegally. Americans
00:34:16.160 have been told that handing over a driver's license is the price of security. I say scan the
00:34:21.280 ID, verify the age, prove you're a real person. It's the contractor. This is one of the key
00:34:29.320 elements, of course, of the Save America Act, which to me just seems like common sense. Why
00:34:34.740 shouldn't someone be a U.S. citizen and have a photo ID in order to vote? I'm Roger Stone. You're
00:34:41.520 listening to The Stone Zone. We'll talk about all things politics. And when we come back, we're going
00:34:45.700 to talk about the need for the ID verification of upcoming elections and how that might be
00:34:52.560 achieved. Don't go away. We'll be right back in The Zone. This is The Stone Zone with Roger
00:34:59.280 Stone. He's a great, great person. Roger Stone. The Stone Zone. The Stone Zone. Entertaining
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00:35:29.280 this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's the very very one of the smartest
00:35:38.000 political minds roger stone was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant
00:35:42.780 political analyst now get him his own it's the stone zone here's roger stone welcome back into
00:35:51.500 the stone zone something very strange has happened i mean americans have spent years being told that
00:35:56.800 Handing over one's driver's license is a price of security.
00:36:00.620 Scan the ID.
00:36:01.980 Verify your age.
00:36:03.320 Prove you're a real person.
00:36:04.640 Trust the contractor.
00:36:05.960 It's become incredibly commonplace for us to submit our most sensitive, private, personal details over the Internet.
00:36:12.760 We barely even think about it anymore.
00:36:14.100 But now, a dark web service called Nexus has advertised access to more than 153 million U.S. and Canadian driver's license records, along with passports and other identification documents and medical cards.
00:36:29.560 Cybersecurity journalist Brian Krebs produced a report because he searched the system and found his own Virginia driver's license.
00:36:36.960 The database also contained identification associated with the Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, for example.
00:36:43.780 Working with security researcher Zach Edwards, Krebs traced documents towards Louisiana-based identity verification company IDSscan.net,
00:36:54.200 although IDScan has not publicly confirmed that the entire trove came from their system.
00:36:59.320 The FBI's New Orleans office says it's looking into the incidents, but suddenly Nexus disappeared shortly after all this Republican reporting went public.
00:37:08.880 This is the central contradiction in the surveillance economy.
00:37:12.420 Politicians and corporations increasingly want permanent identity documents uploaded to third parties in the name of safety, age verification, and fraud prevention.
00:37:22.960 Every one of those databases becomes a treasure trove, of course, for criminals or those who would vote in the name of another.
00:37:30.160 With the advent of AI, it's becoming easier for hackers to get a hold of this information, much easier than ever before.
00:37:36.660 Password can't always be changed after a breach.
00:37:39.800 Your face cannot.
00:37:41.180 Your date of birth cannot be changed.
00:37:43.220 Your signature can't be changed.
00:37:44.640 Your driver's license history cannot be changed.
00:37:47.360 The answer is not to pretend identity verification is never necessary.
00:37:51.640 the answer is to stop treating data retention as free. Companies collecting these documents must be
00:37:58.000 held to a particularly high standard, and when they allow these breaches, there must be severe
00:38:03.580 consequences, because when they get lax, well, the privacy of millions of Americans are at stake.
00:38:09.800 Meanwhile, the American military footprint in Australia is meant to deter any military
00:38:14.740 aggression from China. Defense Secretary, the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, and the Australian
00:38:20.780 Defense Minister Richard Marles have announced deeper cooperation as China expands its diplomatic,
00:38:27.600 economic, and military influence throughout the Pacific. Marles said American forces posture in
00:38:35.000 Australia is growing across every domain. Existing agreements already permit U.S. forces to train,
00:38:41.240 rotate aircraft, store equipment, and support American naval operations on Australian territory.
00:38:47.640 Under the AUKUS, the HMAS Sterling Naval Base in Western Australia is preparing to host four U.S.-commanded Virginia-class submarines beginning in 2027.
00:39:01.900 So Washington and the Australians have announced a combined $580 million for Pacific Island nations as Beijing competes aggressively for influence throughout the infrastructure projects, grants, and security relationships in Australia.
00:39:19.320 China claims that Australia risks accelerating a regional arms race if they scramble to remain the region's pre-amended hegemon.
00:39:26.900 hegemon. Australia illustrates what serious alliance building sharing looks like. Geography,
00:39:34.160 ports, fuel depots, repair facilities, submarine access, and of course money are all of the utmost
00:39:40.660 importance. The treaty printed on expensive paper is useless if the ally provides none of those
00:39:46.200 things when a crisis arrives. Australia provides strategic depths close enough to the Indo-Pacific
00:39:52.760 theater to complicate the Chinese military's calculations while remaining outside the most
00:39:58.600 exposed First Island chain positions. $480 million in a Pacific package reflects another reality that
00:40:05.800 China does not want to compete with, only with destroyers. It competes with loans, roads, 0.90
00:40:12.380 telecommunication projects, and political relationships. Here, American strategy therefore
00:40:16.920 has to operate in those very same dimensions.
00:40:19.820 The strategic mechanism behind this U.S.-Australia deal
00:40:23.580 is coherent and clear.
00:40:25.240 We must distribute forces,
00:40:27.080 strengthen allied infrastructure,
00:40:28.820 and make aggression far more expensive for Beijing
00:40:31.520 so that they never decide to test it.
00:40:33.960 The rule of deterrence is timeless.
00:40:36.280 The cheapest war is the one your adversary
00:40:38.500 decides it cannot win.
00:40:40.220 Thanks for joining us in the Stone Zone until tomorrow.
00:40:43.060 God bless you and Godspeed.
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