The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - September 03, 2026


Operation Rotten Apple: ICE Takes a Bite of the Big Apple

The White House and the Deep State War The Spy Who Sold Out

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00:01:35.360 The Stone Zone. Entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:01:51.920 This Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:01:55.360 People love him and respect him. Roger Stone.
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00:02:09.800 Well, the Internet is abuzz with the continuing story of Allison Guerrero.
00:02:16.300 Allison Guerrero was the whistleblower who brought to light the fact that the head of the FBI's counterintelligence operation, Charles McGonagall,
00:02:26.900 with whom Guerrero had an affair, believing McGonagall's claim that he was divorced or
00:02:34.260 divorcing, was in fact taking enormous bribes from the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska.
00:02:42.800 She was found dead in her Boynton Beach, Florida apartment last Thursday night.
00:02:48.940 I must say that I communicated with her by text both that day and the day before because
00:02:54.660 she was a contributor to this show, The Stone Zone, where she worked as a researcher and a
00:03:01.160 co-producer on some occasions. She was an enormously talented person, extraordinarily
00:03:06.980 loyal, extraordinarily chaotic in her life, enthusiastic, optimistic, occasionally brilliant.
00:03:15.080 She was a bit of a chatterbox. She loved to talk. She had a deep sense of history. She's extremely
00:03:21.500 well read. And most interesting to me, she was extremely well liked in both law enforcement
00:03:28.440 and the intelligence communities, where she had excellent contacts, introduced me to a number of
00:03:35.100 people who were beneficial to helping formulate our programming here in the Stone Zone. The one
00:03:42.300 thing I do want to address that is extraordinarily important in light of a story that just dropped
00:03:48.260 minutes ago on the UK Daily Mail. We do not know the cause of death. The police have not
00:03:56.260 released a police report, nor have they released the conclusions of their investigation.
00:04:05.780 I am hearing from some sources in law enforcement that they are moving towards a conclusion
00:04:11.860 that Alison Guerrero took her own life.
00:04:16.300 I want to say that I categorically reject that,
00:04:19.900 absent some overwhelming evidence to the contrary,
00:04:24.240 only because of her devout Roman Catholicism
00:04:28.420 and the incredibly good mood that she was in that day,
00:04:33.640 based not only on my own communications with her,
00:04:36.700 but also on, get this, 75 posts on X,
00:04:41.320 most of them videos, that very day, as well as additional posts on social media. So this is,
00:04:48.060 as far as I am concerned, this is still an open case. Why is it important? Well, because Alison
00:04:55.120 Guerrero was struggling to bring more public light on additional corruption within the FBI. 0.90
00:05:02.200 And I know for a fact that she was receiving a number of online threats. I was receiving many
00:05:10.280 of those same threats from the same people, because both in my website and here in the Stone
00:05:16.960 Zone, I was highlighting the epic corruption within the FBI and other law enforcement agencies.
00:05:24.620 To the great credit of Kash Patel, he's removed a lot, but not all of those bad actors. There's
00:05:33.000 still many deep in the bowels of the intelligence community. And Alison Guerrero was a thorn in
00:05:39.780 their side. She was a truth teller. She was a whistleblower. She was a tremendous person.
00:05:47.160 And well, frankly, I will miss her enormously. In the meantime, federal investigators have now
00:05:52.720 intervened into the growing controversy inside New York Attorney General Letitia James' office.
00:05:59.920 Assistant Attorney General Daniel Wiesenfeld of the New York Attorney General's office met for
00:06:05.320 several hours Tuesday with FBI and Justice Department lawyers after alleging that his
00:06:12.080 superiors pushed him to, quote, find and pursue crimes involving President Donald Trump and
00:06:18.700 Trump-linked entities without any previous probable cause or critical basis. Wiesenfeld
00:06:26.240 made that accusation in an email sent to roughly 2,000 colleagues before, poof, it disappeared
00:06:33.860 from office servers only minutes later. Wiesenfeld specifically named Investigative
00:06:40.640 Protection Bureau Chief Shamismo Mazwaswi, I think I said that right, and cited targets including
00:06:48.600 President Trump and his website True Social. James' office, of course, rejects the allegations
00:06:55.400 calling the dispute a personnel matter and says it does not investigate people because of their
00:07:01.360 political beliefs, which is absurd because we have numerous videos of Letitia James saying in
00:07:07.440 campaign speeches while running for attorney general that if she was elected, she would,
00:07:12.160 quote, get, close quote, Donald Trump. The deputy, pardon me, assistant attorney general
00:07:19.920 Wiesenfeld in the New York attorney general's office is now on paid administrative leave as
00:07:25.560 result of this controversy. Letitia James understandably wants to downplay the entire
00:07:31.800 matter, but when federal criminal and civil investigators spend hours interviewing an
00:07:36.880 insider, it's clear there's far more here to the matter than routine office gossip. Just to remind
00:07:43.320 you of the background, Letitia James was charged in the Eastern District of Virginia with common
00:07:49.680 mortgage fraud, a documents case, a case in which her guilt is absolutely proved by public documents
00:07:57.440 that anyone who has a laptop can access. The head of the Federal Housing Finance Agency,
00:08:05.300 Bill Pote, referred, after reviewing those public documents, referred Letitia James to the Justice
00:08:12.420 Department for prosecution. That prosecution fell within the Eastern District of Virginia because the 0.96
00:08:19.120 most recent case of mortgage fraud, had to do with a home in the state of Virginia, where very
00:08:26.340 clearly Letitia James lied on another number of forms. Now, for those who say, oh, this is
00:08:33.000 retaliation, this is revenge, let me just say that Attorney General Letitia James actually
00:08:38.280 prosecuted people within New York State for the very same crime that she was being prosecuted for 1.00
00:08:45.180 in Virginia. That case was disposed of not because it went to trial or not because she was found
00:08:51.240 innocent. It was disposed of on a technicality because three federal judges violated the law,
00:08:57.220 the Constitution, and the canon of ethics to claim that the prosecutor in that case,
00:09:02.660 Lindsey Halligan, a former lawyer for Donald Trump, had been improperly appointed. They also
00:09:08.920 dismissed the case against former FBI Director James Comey for lying to Congress about whether
00:09:16.360 he had ever shared classified information with a third party and directed them to leak it. In this
00:09:23.820 case, there was documentation that he had given them to a legal colleague named Daniel Richman
00:09:30.460 and had instructed Richman to leak the information to the New York Times. An open and shut case based
00:09:37.520 on the paper documentation, but once again, that case was also dismissed on a technicality
00:09:44.820 based on the false premise that Lindsey Halligan, the appointed acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern
00:09:52.560 District of Virginia, had been improperly appointed, which, as I say, is on appeal because it's
00:09:59.400 incorrect. Now, the larger issue here in New York is prostitutorial powerhouse abuse by low IQ
00:10:06.160 few thugs like Letitia James with an ax to grind against the president. James, of course, built a 1.00
00:10:12.360 national profile through years of legal combat with President Trump, including, of course, her
00:10:17.360 civil fraud case against him, a case that was reversed by the upper courts. President Trump
00:10:23.700 now is, I have to believe, is smiling somewhere. Wiesenfeld is now alleging that political
00:10:30.840 targets were selected first and then potential crimes sought afterward. As Joseph Stalin said,
00:10:37.660 show me the man and I will show you the crime. This much is obvious. As James essentially admitted,
00:10:44.200 this would be done on the campaign trail. She said it over and over again in her speeches.
00:10:49.060 Now the other shoe is about to drop. As investigators corroborate Wiesenfeld's account,
00:10:54.840 James and her office would be implicated in the inversion of law enforcement. Prosecutors are
00:11:00.960 supposed to follow evidence towards suspects, not start with enemies and work backwards towards
00:11:06.040 fabricating some charges. James's actions have not only injured President Trump, but the rule of law
00:11:11.900 and constitutional jurisprudence as a whole. So I say it's time for Letitia James to take a long
00:11:18.040 deserve perp walk. The mortgage fraud crimes can certainly be refiled. The statute of limitations 1.00
00:11:25.020 on those has not run, but it appears here that we have new crimes by the New York Attorney General
00:11:31.920 is a smoking gun email which disappeared, raising the question of who ordered the disappearance?
00:11:41.520 Did it disappear from the server entirely? Does it still exist? I can only hope that
00:11:48.380 federal investigators will get to the bottom of all of that. Meanwhile, of course, Hunter Biden
00:11:55.040 is back in the news. He's managed to make the Burisma energy story look worse without any
00:12:01.220 pressure from a subpoena, a whistleblower, or a Republican House or Senate committee chairman.
00:12:07.620 Describing the depths of his crack cocaine addiction,
00:12:11.800 Hunter explained how he could stay at Los Angeles' Chateau Marmont
00:12:15.960 for an extended binge without going broke.
00:12:19.780 One continuing source of income, he said, was his seat on the border of Burisma,
00:12:25.040 the Ukrainian energy company paying him roughly $80,000 a month
00:12:30.700 while his father was vice president and involved in American policy towards Ukraine.
00:12:36.160 Hunter also described Joe Biden coming to see him while he was visibly in distress, accompanied by Secret Service agents.
00:12:44.880 Hunter insists he was qualified for his position at Burisma and rejects accusations that he was employed as a kickback from the company trying to curry favor with his influential father.
00:12:56.540 I would remind you that Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in aid to Ukraine unless the Ukrainian government fired the prosecutor who was investigating his son, Hunter Biden, and Burisma.
00:13:11.320 So Hunter insists, as I say, he was qualified for the job.
00:13:14.900 If this is not illegal, then these payouts to Hunter Biden were still highly immoral and an abominable example of the corrupt nature of which our foreign policy operates when Democrats are in power.
00:13:26.540 Burisma is not some company name buried in congressional exhibits.
00:13:31.520 It was the real money financing Hunter Biden's real life during one of the worst periods of his life.
00:13:37.500 There is no satisfactory answer as to why a Ukrainian energy company was paying the sitting vice president's son extraordinary sums of money while his personal life was collapsing and he had no particular expertise in energy or business.
00:13:52.680 The only possible answer is that his father was central to the American-Ukraine policy, and they know if they were greasing over Hunter, they would have a better shot at peddling influence within the Obama regime.
00:14:07.600 Knowing Hunter, it is a possibility.
00:14:10.240 It wasn't all that long ago that Hunter Biden's lawyers dropped a letter on me about a year ago,
00:14:15.620 instructing me to preserve all of my documents, all the documents in my possession,
00:14:21.060 pertaining to Hunter Biden's laptop, which was very, very easy for me to do because that would be none.
00:14:28.080 Everything I know about Hunter Biden's laptop, I learned in the pages of the New York Post
00:14:34.240 in the outstanding investigative reporting by the great Miranda Devine.
00:14:39.760 But the idea that I got or received the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop
00:14:46.780 from Mayor Rudy Giuliani or from Steve Bannon or from Keith Alblow,
00:14:54.540 who was a former psychiatrist for Hunter Biden, is categorically false.
00:15:01.260 And I'm told that there's a new documentary in the works in which Hunter is going to once again try to discredit the Hunter Biden laptop contents.
00:15:13.140 By the way, if you want to see them yourself, you can go to Marco Polo dot org, Marco Polo dot org or go to Biden report dot com and you can see them online or you can even order a copy for yourself.
00:15:28.600 If Hunter Biden thinks he's going to drag my name through the mud based, once again, on completely and totally fraudulent claims that I was somehow how involved in the release of this extraordinarily embarrassing information, well, he has another thing coming.
00:15:44.860 Thank you for joining us today in The Stone Zone.
00:15:47.020 I'm Roger Stone.
00:15:47.920 Don't go away because we'll be back with more politics right on the other side.
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00:16:09.140 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:16:12.920 Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.
00:16:16.840 Roger Stone was persecuted.
00:16:18.060 People forget he's actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.
00:16:21.120 Now, give him his own.
00:16:22.960 It's the Stone Zone.
00:16:24.480 Here's Roger Stone.
00:16:26.640 Welcome back into the Stone Zone.
00:16:31.000 It was 25 years ago after September 11th.
00:16:34.540 President Trump is bringing now a piece of ground zero to the White House.
00:16:38.340 On September 8th, President Trump will host first responders at a 21-foot, 1,600, 900-pound steel beam
00:16:47.100 recovered from the South Tower is displayed on the ellipse.
00:16:51.780 The BEAM is traveling the country with the Tunnel to Towers Foundation's Steel Across America tour, putting the physical evidence of that day before a generation too young to remember it or, more importantly, to understand it.
00:17:06.340 President Trump and the Foundation Chairman Frank Siller are expected to speak during the honors.
00:17:11.980 Siller founded Tunnels to Tower in memory of his brother, a fire department of New York firefighter, Stephen Siller, who ran towards the burning towers and never came back.
00:17:24.040 The organization is marking the anniversary by delivering 343 mortgage-free homes in honor of the 343 fire department of New York firefighters killed that very morning.
00:17:39.220 Now, this is exactly the right focus for the 21st anniversary of 9-11.
00:17:44.460 It's not about politics.
00:17:46.100 It's not about revisionism.
00:17:47.580 It's about memorializing the event, remembering those we lost that day and those who heeded the call as first responders.
00:17:57.060 These people are heroes.
00:17:58.820 Allison Guerrero, who we spoke of earlier on the show, was one of those.
00:18:03.380 Firefighters climbed stairwells while civilians came down.
00:18:06.600 Police officers, port authority officers, paramedics, and ordinary New Yorkers ran towards danger because somebody had to do it and they are Americans. New Yorkers ran towards the danger and it has to be remembered. President Trump will attend the Pentagon observance on September 11th. Vice President J.D. Vance will represent the administration at the World Trade Center site and officials will also be in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
00:18:34.500 The beam on the ellipse carries a simpler message than any speech could possibly give.
00:18:41.160 Steel survived the collapse, but memory has to survive time.
00:18:45.940 Millions of Americans alive today have no memory of the smoke over Manhattan, the Pentagon burning, or the Flight 93 falling in Pennsylvania.
00:18:55.620 This makes remembrance an obligation.
00:18:57.840 As Americans, we must honor the dead, honor those who ran towards the fire, and never allow history to be forgotten.
00:19:06.340 Like my good friend Sid Rosenberg, I am opposed to the Mayor Mondami attending the remembrance in New York City
00:19:17.460 because he braces an ideology of those who attacked 9-11 that day.
00:19:22.800 I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to The Stone Zone, and we'll be right back.
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00:19:44.780 This is the Stone Zone.
00:19:47.400 Now, get in the zone.
00:19:49.320 It's the Stone Zone.
00:19:51.300 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going,
00:19:55.060 and he's smart and he's strong and people love him. Not everybody, but people love him and
00:20:00.220 respect him. Roger Stone. Where's Roger Stone? Here's Roger Stone.
00:20:06.680 Welcome back into the Stone Zone. Well, President Trump has changed the rules of the fight against
00:20:13.040 the drug cartels and the White House says that the results are showing up in lives saved and
00:20:18.200 trafficking routes disrupted. Senior administrative officials say the United States has carried out
00:20:23.960 68 reported maritime strikes against suspected narco-trafficking vessels over the last year,
00:20:30.940 killing at least 227 alleged traffickers.
00:20:35.900 SELFCOM says illicit maritime activity has fallen sharply, about 65% in the Western Caribbean,
00:20:44.340 60% in the Eastern Caribbean, and nearly 50% in key parts of the Eastern Pacific.
00:20:49.940 The administration calls this, correctly, the steepest decline in American casualties inflicted by cartels in U.S. history.
00:20:59.460 This is the White House redefining the war on drugs and showing the results have not been seen through its tenure.
00:21:07.340 It is the strategy here is unmistakable.
00:21:09.760 President Trump stopped treating international cartels as ordinary criminal organizations and began treating them as armed networks threatening the homeland.
00:21:19.940 The Trump administration has made it clear that hostile armed organizations don't get a free pass in the Western Hemisphere.
00:21:27.540 The administration says that governments across Latin America are increasingly cooperating as the United States applies pressure
00:21:35.480 because they know they're not off limits unless they get with the program.
00:21:40.800 What happened in Venezuela proves that.
00:21:43.060 Additionally, the CDC provisional data shows overdose deaths declining sharply in the United States with a predicted 68,641 deaths for the 12 months ending in February 2026.
00:21:59.060 That's down 12.1% from the prior year.
00:22:02.960 Maritime traffic is down as well.
00:22:04.960 The task, of course, is whether fentanyl availability, overdose deaths, cartel finances, and trafficking capacity keep falling rather than simply shifting routes.
00:22:17.240 The Trump administration will certainly be intensifying their efforts to go the full mile to put these networks out of commission entirely.
00:22:26.680 Deterrence only begins when the enemy believes consequences are real.
00:22:31.120 Cartels that operate like armed organizations should expect the United States to treat them
00:22:35.760 like the terrorists that they are. The kids' gloves are off now. The war on drugs is no longer a mass
00:22:42.200 incarceration scheme. Under President Trump, we're going directly at the source, and he has the
00:22:48.440 cartels on the run. Here's what happens when the Trump administration decides to go about a
00:22:54.500 sanctuary state. 2,197 arrests in a little more than one month, all of them in New York. The
00:23:03.180 Department of Homeland Security says that ICE arrested as many illegals across New York between
00:23:08.580 July 27th and August 29th during Operation Rotten Apple, including individuals with histories of
00:23:15.660 convictions involving murder, rape, sexual crimes against children, gang activity, and narcotics
00:23:22.780 abuses. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen says the operation was conducted
00:23:29.240 without the assistance of Governor Kathy Hochul or New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdami or New York
00:23:36.440 Attorney General Letitia James, all of whom are loud advocates of policies limiting local law
00:23:43.080 enforcement cooperation with federal immigration enforcement. The Trump administration's message
00:23:48.420 is, I think, extraordinarily blunt. If Albany and City Hall will not cooperate with ICE in
00:23:54.460 identifying and transferring removable criminal offenders, federal agents will go get them
00:24:00.160 themselves. Sanctuary advocates say those restrictions protect community trust and prevent
00:24:06.260 local police from becoming an arm of federal immigration enforcement. But when police are
00:24:10.740 not assisting with immigration enforcement, they're effectively weaponized to oppose law and order and
00:24:16.540 federal law, and that is a recipe for societal ruin. In this case, President Trump's team has
00:24:23.620 found the pressure point. Sanctuary City can sound wonderfully compassionate when discussed in the
00:24:30.140 abstract. Sounds rather different, though, when federal government starts displaying the records
00:24:35.260 of convicted killers, rapists, gang members, and child predators who are assisted to escape justice
00:24:41.420 by the policies of Hochul, Mamdami, and James. That's why Operation Rotten Apple matters beyond
00:24:49.000 New York. It tests whether the Trump administration can make sanctuary jurisdictions increasingly
00:24:54.180 irrelevant by simply enforcing them, as well as making the criminals being arrested become the
00:24:59.660 face of the debate. The lesson here is that leftists who would coddle illegal immigrants 0.64
00:25:05.220 are learning that when local politicians build a sanctuary from enforcement, they should not
00:25:11.280 be surprised when the Trump administration comes banging in through the front door based on federal
00:25:16.900 law. They're not afraid of the battle. They'll do whatever it takes to keep our countries,
00:25:21.200 our communities, and our neighborhoods safe. Meanwhile, President Trump's Venezuela strategy
00:25:28.360 is beginning to appear like a geopolitical acquisition that will solve the problem of
00:25:34.120 expensive oil permanently. Reuters reports that a new agreement would give North American blue
00:25:39.800 Energy Partners, a 100-year lease covering 17 Venezuelan oil fields with roughly 65 billion
00:25:48.680 barrels of oil reserves, while the United States would take a 35% equity stake in the parent
00:25:55.000 company, receiving 20% of production, and hold a right of first refusal on the remainder.
00:26:00.920 This will allow the Trump administration to refill the federal energy reserve that was depleted
00:26:07.640 by Joe Biden. Venezuela's National Assembly has now approved the agreement, while Chevron is
00:26:14.420 separately prepared to expand its operations. And Energy Secretary Chris Wright is headed right now
00:26:20.440 to Caracas. Put those pieces together, the goals become clear. The Trump administration has cut off
00:26:27.600 communist China's access to cheap oil. It has also cut off Cuba's access to cheap oil. So when people
00:26:35.440 say, oh, the entire movement in Venezuela was all about oil. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And 1.00
00:26:40.840 frankly, it's brilliant. The Trump administration is not merely shopping for barrels. It's attempting
00:26:48.020 to reassert American leverage over the greatest energy prize in the Western Hemisphere after
00:26:53.460 decades in which Hugo Chavez's social experiment drove away American companies and created
00:26:59.720 openings and supplied Russia, China, and Iran. We're beginning to see the brilliant design of
00:27:06.600 the Don Roe doctrine take shape before our very eyes. President Trump's wager is, of course,
00:27:13.420 American capital, American power, and American energy expertise to do what Venezuelan socialism
00:27:19.780 spectacularly failed to do, turning gigantic reserves into dependable production while
00:27:25.800 reducing hostile foreign influence in America's own backyard. This will not be a venture without
00:27:31.600 risk, of course. Major producers remain concerned about legal certainty, contract stability, and
00:27:37.560 the extraordinary prospect of competing alongside the U.S. government itself. But the potential
00:27:42.740 upside is too massive not to proceed. It will mean energy security, leverage over Caracas,
00:27:50.040 reduce Chinese and Russian influence in our hemisphere, and enormous new production.
00:27:57.400 Chavez nationalized and drew America out of Venezuela.
00:28:01.920 The gangster Maduro then turned Venezuela into a narco state from there. 0.68
00:28:06.600 President Trump is attempting to reverse that history, make sure that it never happens again.
00:28:10.620 He understands that history, and he will never abandon it, 0.66
00:28:16.480 recognizes the danger of narco-terrorism in our hemisphere. Not coincidental, since he shut down 0.91
00:28:25.120 the USAID, which became an enormous slush fund for the radical politics of socialism and Marxism
00:28:32.760 in this hemisphere, that in country after country, in Chile, in Colombia, in Peru, in Honduras,
00:28:40.520 And hopefully very soon in Guatemala, you have seen nationalists rise and win elections when the left is no longer has USAID money to use for political purposes.
00:28:55.140 President Trump will never allow China or Russia to one up us in our hemisphere, particularly when it comes to oil and gas.
00:29:02.060 And we're seeing it unfold before our very eyes.
00:29:05.280 Meanwhile, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, who in my opinion is among the very best of the Trump appointees in Trump 2.0, walked into the G20 finance meeting in Asheville with a message Washington's trade establishment once treated as heresy.
00:29:22.720 He forcefully told the globalists that the world cannot absorb the endless flood of artificially cheap exports from non-market economies.
00:29:32.880 The response shows how much the Trump administration has swayed public opinion.
00:29:37.700 Besant said that 19 G20 members agreed that the problem is unsustainable.
00:29:43.560 China, of course, was the lone dissenter.
00:29:46.120 For years, Trump's tariffs were portrayed as uniquely American departures from the global consensus.
00:29:53.780 But Besson's argument is that the consensus itself is moving because Chinese overcapacity is no longer just an American complaint.
00:30:03.600 In other words, Trumpism is spreading abroad.
00:30:06.740 When one country manufactures far beyond domestic demand, pushes surplus goods into foreign markets, and undercuts local producers, the backlash travels very quickly.
00:30:18.360 Europe is feeling the ill effects of it, even as we speak.
00:30:21.800 Emerging economies see it as well.
00:30:24.340 American workers have lived with it for decades.
00:30:27.640 Tariffs carry costs, but the structural dispute is undeniable.
00:30:33.700 Besson is using the tariff wall as leverage.
00:30:36.740 Restricting access to American markets forces other countries to confront diverted Chinese exports pouring into their own countries.
00:30:45.720 That means President Trump is given a stronger hand leading into expected meeting with the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, later this month, where trade and artificial intelligence are expected to be on the agenda.
00:30:59.060 AI matters because the next industrial contest will be fought over chips, data centers, energy.
00:31:05.900 and machine intelligence as much as over, say, steel and auto parts.
00:31:11.620 The strategic point is straightforward.
00:31:14.400 Trade policy is now national security policy under President Donald Trump.
00:31:19.180 President Trump has always innately realized that a great power
00:31:22.540 who cannot make what it needs eventually answers to powers that can.
00:31:27.680 America spent decades assuming cheap imports were automatically a bargain,
00:31:32.640 believing in the free market like it was a religion.
00:31:35.200 The bill came later in lost factories, lost capacity, strategic dependence, and essentially the destruction of America's working middle class.
00:31:44.920 We paid the price from our naivete, but President Trump is finally reversing the damage, and America is going to be made great again when it comes to this front.
00:31:56.240 Meanwhile, President Trump may have lost the broad first round on birthright citizenship,
00:32:01.220 but the fight is back and a winning strategy for round two seems to be at hand.
00:32:05.500 In June, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in Trump v. Barbara
00:32:10.700 that the children born in the United States to parents who are unlawfully or temporarily president
00:32:16.380 are citizens at birth under the 14th Amendment.
00:32:19.860 This is a distortion of what the 14th Amendment was for,
00:32:23.200 But nonetheless, the high court ruled that way.
00:32:26.920 That rejected the administration's original constitutional theory.
00:32:30.960 President Trump responded strongly in August with two narrower executive orders.
00:32:36.040 One directs agencies to withhold citizenship documents in certain cases involving children of members of designated forest terrorist organizations,
00:32:46.140 some foreign government personnel and people allegedly using fraud to obtain their citizenship.
00:32:52.240 The second target is birth tourism through its visa and immigration enforcement.
00:32:57.560 Now, this is not simply through the first order with new repackaging.
00:33:01.700 The administration is now trying to work through narrower historical exceptions involving diplomats, hostile forces, and the meaning of the phrase subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
00:33:14.340 That approach, I think, gives the administration a new legal argument that experts agree is far more likely to achieve ultimate victory in the federal courts.
00:33:23.920 Conservative scholars quoted by Fox, among others, contend that longstanding citizen exceptions leave room for President Trump's new orders.
00:33:33.120 The fight has therefore become more precise.
00:33:35.820 It is no longer just the sweeping proposition that illegal or temporary presence defeats birthright citizenship.
00:33:42.920 It is now a battle over how historically recognized exceptions can be extended.
00:33:49.340 Strategically, the administration has done something familiar by removing the broad proposition,
00:33:54.600 narrowing the target, and returning with a different legal theory.
00:33:59.040 This will give the courts less of an ability to punt on this critical issue or to rule incorrectly.
00:34:05.040 Persistence can reopen a constitutional fight, but only text, context, history, and precedent can ultimately settle it.
00:34:12.620 The Trump administration is doing their due diligence to make sure that the scourge of birthright citizenship and its consequences of skewing America's demographic integrity, indeed the makeup of the United States, will no longer continue unabated.
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00:35:14.660 Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.
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00:35:26.720 Here's Roger Stone.
00:35:29.320 Welcome back into The Stone Zone.
00:35:31.320 While we continue to watch the systematic takeover of the once great Democrat Party of Harry Truman,
00:35:37.980 John F. Kennedy, and Daniel Patrick Moynihan, 0.85
00:35:40.840 by a radical clique of Marxist Islamic fanatics, or those who kowtow to them in this case.
00:35:48.920 In Massachusetts, 80-year-old Senator Ed Markey defeated Representative Seth Moulton,
00:35:55.840 who made age, generational change, and a more central posture central to his challenge.
00:36:01.780 Markey did the opposite. He moved radically left, and he embraced the socialists.
00:36:06.640 He leaned into issues that animate the far-left socialist base, for example, defended transgender participation in sports, taxpayer financing of transgender surgeries.
00:36:18.080 He attacked ICE, embraced economic progressivism, and questioned whether Moulton, who was a liberal Democrat, was sufficiently committed to the Marxist priorities.
00:36:28.900 Far left streamer Hassan Piker, that guy's a piece of work, who infamously once said that America deserved what happened to us on 9-11, applauded the results as evidence that Democratic voters cared more about embracing far left policy than they did about age.
00:36:47.140 This follows recent primary results that are far beyond New York. It's not just the triumph of Mamdami and his socialist ilk in New York. We've seen similar situations in Colorado and, of course, in Michigan, where El-Sayed took the nomination over a nominal establishment liberal Democrat. 0.69
00:37:08.720 In state after state, more radical candidates are defeating their more moderate, but not moderate, liberal challenges in big primaries.
00:37:17.900 The radical left ascendancy continues to rise and gain more momentum with each contest.
00:37:22.740 How this will play out in the general election, of course, remains to be seen.
00:37:26.600 Meanwhile, Democrat strategists have warned the positions on immigration, socialism, and cultural issues can be liabilities in competitive states.
00:37:34.460 My old competitor, James Carville, has raised this in a number of podcasts that I've noticed.
00:37:42.520 Markey's victory in Massachusetts demonstrates that incumbency and ideological identification can easily overpower the establishment-backed efforts for any sense of moderation, particularly if it is in a deep blue state.
00:37:57.360 So Seth Moulton was younger by more than three decades and explicitly framed the race as a passing of the torch moment.
00:38:05.140 But the torch ultimately stayed right where it was in the hands of 80-year-old Ed Markey.
00:38:10.220 Markey showed how in trades Democrats will ultimately go as far left as necessary to protect their political power and their careers.
00:38:17.600 So what we saw in the Bay State is also lessened about the primary process.
00:38:22.280 process. Parties are shaped not by consultants describing the median voter, but by people who
00:38:28.860 actually show up to choose the nominees. The rule is old and unforgivable, but it is a fact. The
00:38:36.900 faction that builds the strongest primary constituency ultimately will win the nomination
00:38:43.620 contest, and that's who dominates the party's future. So just as Donald Trump has transformed
00:38:49.760 the party that was once the party of the country clubs, the party of Wall Street, the party of the
00:38:55.080 wealthy, the party of the ruling elite, into being the party of working class voters and middle class
00:39:02.420 families. Now you see the Democrat Socialists of America transforming the once great Democrat party
00:39:10.040 into the party of Marxism. That's where we are today. Now, this is crucial for the general
00:39:17.620 election strategy. What Republicans must do is to convince people that socialism is not just a tag,
00:39:23.700 it's not just a title, it's not just an accusation. People need to understand in very stark terms
00:39:30.700 what the impact of these socialist policies are. High crime rates, high taxes, less personal
00:39:38.160 freedom, empty grocery store shelves and very dangerous neighborhoods. This is the stark choice
00:39:47.080 that faces us. This is the choice between freedom and socialism. This is the fight in which the
00:39:52.920 Republicans have enormous financial advantage to get their message out as a Trump supporter,
00:40:00.700 as a 50-year friend of the president, and one who criticizes the Republican Party from time to time,
00:40:07.420 but is a Goldwater Reagan Republican. I'm waiting for the rest of the party to get on board with
00:40:14.100 Trump's message. I'm Roger Stone. Welcome you today to The Stone Zone. Thanks for joining us
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