The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - September 02, 2026


The White House and the Deep State War

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00:01:45.340 Well, yesterday we brought you the extraordinarily sad news that Allison Guerrero,
00:01:50.220 who is a contributor, writer, and researcher for this show, was tragically found dead in her home
00:01:58.740 in Florida on August 27th. Alison Guerrero was a whistleblower who exposed corruption in the FBI 1.00
00:02:08.240 at the very highest level. Specifically, she exposed the fact that the counterintelligence 0.73
00:02:13.500 chief, Charles McGonigal, now in prison, had taken huge bribes from Russian oligarchs. Because of
00:02:21.540 that, she was getting an extraordinary number of threats. She was well known and well respected in
00:02:28.100 the law enforcement and the intelligence community. I would describe her as loyal, chaotic, enthusiastic,
00:02:36.040 optimistic, occasionally brilliant, but very, very deeply religious and extraordinarily devout Roman
00:02:42.680 kathleen that she was always trying to get me to go to latin mass with her therefore i reject the
00:02:48.320 idea that i see being floated online that she took her own life now we await the results of a police
00:02:55.040 investigation and and obviously an autopsy and a medical investigation but i actually exchanged
00:03:01.360 exchanged messages with allison guerrero that day and the day before there was nothing whatsoever
00:03:08.020 that indicated that she was in emotional upset.
00:03:11.600 And I think her deeply religious views
00:03:13.380 would never have allowed her to take her own life.
00:03:16.680 We await that medical report.
00:03:18.640 We're going to cover this story and stay on top of it.
00:03:22.280 In the meantime, the Supreme Court
00:03:23.920 has handed President Trump a major victory
00:03:26.660 over Washington's permanent injunction machine.
00:03:30.120 That's right, by a five to four vote,
00:03:32.680 the Supreme Court justices allowed constructions
00:03:35.260 of President Trump's new White House ballroom
00:03:37.820 and the military complex beneath it to continue while the underlying legal battle proceeds.
00:03:44.420 Now, the court has not ruled that every part of the project is necessarily lawful.
00:03:49.520 It ruled that the National Trust for Historic Preservation is likely to lack Article 3 standing to bring the case.
00:03:58.760 Frankly, this is a very good sign that the project will ultimately be successful.
00:04:03.680 This entire battle has fit the pattern of lawfare that my friend President Donald Trump has had to endure from his leftist opponents from the very beginning of his first term.
00:04:13.560 Every time President Trump acts, an outside group inevitably races into court.
00:04:19.340 A lower court judge intervenes, usually an activist liberal judge, and then the Supreme Court ultimately has to decide whether the challenges even belong in the courthouse.
00:04:30.740 This time, the majority said mere offense, disagreement, or distaste is not a concrete constitutional injury.
00:04:40.700 The shameful Chief Justice John Roberts joined the three liberals in the dissent, accepting the absurd argument that a preservationist who regularly walks past the White House could suffer a particularized aesthetic injury from the transformation of the site.
00:04:58.220 But that's actually, strangely enough, their argument against it.
00:05:02.180 They're clearly dealing for any justification to obstruct the president's agenda, to build a safer and, I think, much wiser facility inside the White House grounds.
00:05:15.000 It's not coincidental that two American presidents were targeted for assassination while visiting the Washington Hilton Hotel.
00:05:24.100 It's a perfect example of why the ballroom is needed.
00:05:27.380 President Trump says, of course, that the privately funded project is under budget, ahead of schedule,
00:05:33.440 and it will cost taxpayers nothing whatsoever with completion planned for 2028.
00:05:38.960 So I say with the recent attempts on the lives of President Trump,
00:05:42.560 it's become more crucial than ever for the ballroom to be constructed
00:05:45.800 as the secure venue would ensure the safety of the president and his guests
00:05:50.820 from deranged, emboldened leftists on their hunt for blood.
00:05:54.940 Courts were never supposed to be automatic veto points from every pressure group offended by presidential action.
00:06:02.320 Litigation has become one of the left's favorite substitutes for winning political arguments or elections.
00:06:08.280 But in this case, it appears that their lawfare efforts have failed.
00:06:12.340 The Supreme Court did not bless every detail of the ballroom, I want to stress that,
00:06:16.700 but it refused to let a questionable standing theory freeze construction.
00:06:21.320 And that removes a barrier preventing that construction.
00:06:24.060 So now we are one step closer to President Trump achieving a major victory for what will be part of his enduring legacy with the construction of the presidential ballroom.
00:06:35.560 President Trump has also stated unequivocally that there is no reason to use a nuclear weapon against Iran.
00:06:43.340 My friend, a former Trump supporter turned Trump hater, Tucker Carlson, says that a senior official told him that nuclear options were being discussed.
00:06:53.640 This is, he's, one guy said, who told another guy, who told another guy, who told another guy.
00:06:59.180 Not credible.
00:07:00.340 The Pentagon discusses, of course, that's their job.
00:07:03.460 Military planners plan while presidents actually decide.
00:07:07.080 President Trump has been very clear about that distinction.
00:07:10.760 His doctrine has never been one of weakness.
00:07:12.900 It has been overwhelming leverage without mindless escalation.
00:07:17.280 Make the enemy understand what America can do.
00:07:19.920 Keep him guessing about what America might do
00:07:22.880 Then give him a reason to make a deal
00:07:25.380 That's called deterrence
00:07:26.980 President Reagan understood it
00:07:28.920 President Eisenhower understood it
00:07:31.040 President Trump understands it
00:07:32.660 The people who confuse military preparedness with bloodlust
00:07:36.180 Either do not understand the use of power
00:07:38.740 Or they understand it perfectly
00:07:40.800 And are selling panic to get relevance and podcast views
00:07:44.740 Look at the strategic reality here
00:07:47.440 Iran is weaker as a result of President Trump's bold military action.
00:07:52.020 As someone who's known the president for over 50 years, I can tell you that since 1988,
00:07:57.020 he has always consistently said that Iran cannot be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.
00:08:02.880 Iran's economy is now battered. Its military position is even worse.
00:08:07.340 Its room for maneuvering is slowly shrinking. 0.68
00:08:10.300 Not exactly when a smart president keeps maximum pressure on Tehran without surrendering control of events
00:08:15.720 to the generals, the bureaucrats, or the professional interventionists
00:08:20.200 who argue for boots on the ground or the use of a nuclear weapon,
00:08:24.880 both clearly ruled out by President Trump.
00:08:28.160 History is full of wars.
00:08:29.940 It began because contingently plans became assumptions,
00:08:33.280 assumptions transformed into momentum,
00:08:35.140 and suddenly nobody remembered what the original objective was. 1.00
00:08:39.840 This is exactly why Iraq and Afghanistan were such monumental disasters.
00:08:45.720 President Trump's advantage has always been his willingness to disregard the entrenched foreign policy bureaucracy when his advice makes no sense.
00:08:55.120 Straits is useful because it can prevent war.
00:08:58.160 Power is valuable because you don't always have to use it, you just have to show that you have it.
00:09:03.060 President Trump knows we must prepare for everything, fear nothing, and never let the bureaucracy choose America's path.
00:09:10.340 This is exactly what the doctrine he's following with Iran and every other country is hostile towards the United States interests.
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00:09:33.300 Something interesting I've never seen, the Republican National Committee's upcoming Republican midterm convention in Dallas next week.
00:09:40.340 is not just another rally. It's actually a showcase for President Trump's success
00:09:45.640 throughout the first year and a half of his second term. President Trump and Vice President
00:09:51.260 J.D. Vince are going to put the administration's record on the stage and ask the country to judge
00:09:56.540 it. And there's plenty that they will want to talk about. The southern border has been
00:10:00.640 tightened dramatically from the crisis conditions of previous years. Immigration enforcement becomes
00:10:06.220 far more aggressive. This is very important because he pledged to be the law and order 1.00
00:10:10.980 president. Violent crime has been falling nationally as the administration has shown
00:10:15.060 the will to enforce the law and order nationally, even in areas run by Democrats, including deep
00:10:21.880 blue cities like D.C. Social conservatives have gotten concrete policy victories as
00:10:27.140 Planned Parenthood has been defunded, and the abortion industry has been hit hard. We no longer
00:10:32.540 have men playing in women's sports, and the administration has openly confronted universities,
00:10:38.060 bureaucracies, non-profits, and other institutions that have accumulated enormous ideological power
00:10:43.800 and burned through a lot of our tax dollars during the previous era. This Dallas convention
00:10:49.680 is a good idea because it gives the president a gyrant microphone to connect all that into one
00:10:55.320 overwhelming argument, and that's where Trump is his strongest. He's never been at his best
00:11:01.360 reading 10-point plans from a teleprompter. That's not his style. His political talent is
00:11:06.600 building a narrative and relating to the common working people of America. Immigration policy is
00:11:12.740 a fundamental battle over national sovereignty. The war on crime becomes a referendum on public 1.00
00:11:18.660 order and the rule of law. Curtailing abortion is about promoting a culture of life. Not using our
00:11:25.780 tax dollars for transgender surgeries is a moral question, as well as one of economics. 0.97
00:11:31.940 Bureaucratic reform is about stopping the deep state and defanging the permanent ruling class 0.99
00:11:37.140 that lords over Washington, D.C. So I think the success of the Dallas Republican National
00:11:42.920 Convention depends upon President Trump connecting the tangible results to a larger argument about the
00:11:49.900 direction of the country. Yes, rallies create energy, but elections are decided by people who
00:11:56.340 never enter the arena. President Trump must make the messaging resonate for the months to come.
00:12:02.280 No man is better equipped to do so. We've seen this as Donald Trump has been underestimated
00:12:07.320 throughout his entire political and business career. All eyes on Texas, Texas U.S. Senate
00:12:15.440 candidate James Talarico, or Talafrico, as President Trump refers to him, has a capitalism
00:12:23.520 problem, and unfortunately for him, it comes from his own mouth. It was back during a 2020
00:12:30.000 Sierra Club forum that the Texas Democrat linked climate change, white supremacy, and capitalism,
00:12:37.100 describing them as interconnected oppressive systems, and talk about beginning the process
00:12:43.760 of demantling them. He also compared Texas leadership in oil and gas as being the leader
00:12:49.300 in cassette tapes in the 1980s and declared that the industry was going to go out of business and
00:12:54.200 would not last. This is a man who's a vegetarian in Texas, one of the primary beef producers in
00:13:00.980 the country. Those remarks are now resurfacing because, well, Calarico is the Democrat nominee
00:13:06.880 for the United States Senate in Texas, and because the vocabulary sounds remarkably similar
00:13:12.000 to what the Democrat Socialists of America and other far-left climate organizations have regularly espoused.
00:13:19.860 See, the Democrat Socialists of America has explicitly described climate politics as part of a struggle against capitalism itself.
00:13:28.040 So this was not just somebody complaining that Exxon was charging too much for gasoline.
00:13:33.640 Tallarico was placing capitalism itself inside a broader ideological framework of oppression.
00:13:40.240 That's why this six-year-old video that has just become public suddenly matters.
00:13:44.940 Past is, after all, prologue.
00:13:47.460 Tallarico's campaign now says he's a proud capitalist and supports all of the above energy strategy that peruse of oil and gas jobs while expanding other sources of energy.
00:13:57.880 Hmm, that's not what we were saying a few years ago.
00:13:59.880 Tallarico is attempting to distance himself from his own history of left-ing radicalism now that he attempts to pull the wool over the eyes of Texas voters.
00:14:08.660 But they're not likely to be convinced in my view. Texas did not become an economic powerhouse by treating free enterprise as a social pathology. And Texas oil and gas did not become a cassette tape. It's more important than ever that America is on the hunt for cheap energy in the age of tech and AI. It remains crucial as a source of employment, exports, tech revenues, and the American energy policy and will for generations to come.
00:14:37.700 So the deeper issue is the progressive habit of redefining economic disagreements as systems of oppression, and then offering more government power as the cure.
00:14:49.820 Tallarico may prefer different terminology today, but he will not be able to hide from his past anti-Christian, pro-transgender remarks.
00:14:59.020 He's about as far left as AOC, Mamdami, Bernie Sanders, and the rest of the socialist clown car that now effectively defines the Democrat Party on a national level.
00:15:11.260 But there is a larger question.
00:15:13.600 Will the Republicans step up and support financially the campaign of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton?
00:15:20.120 Paxton was an outsider who won the Republican nomination over incumbent John Cornyn, who was not a Trump supporter, with a last minute but powerful endorsement by President Donald Trump.
00:15:31.880 The idea that Texas could turn blue and elect a far leftist to the U.S. Senate is kind of hard to swallow.
00:15:39.920 But money is the mother's milk of politics and Ken Paxton is underfunded.
00:15:45.160 You have to wonder whether President Donald Trump is now going to dip into that.
00:15:48.780 $400 million war chest he has at the Make America Great, Inc. Pack to help finance Ken Paxton and finally put Texas in the Republican column in the upcoming U.S. Senate race.
00:16:03.260 I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to Stone Zone. Of course, we're talking politics. Don't go away because we'll be right back.
00:16:10.620 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:16:16.140 Welcome back into the Stone Zone. Like most Americans, I'm watching the case of Lindsay
00:16:24.460 Clancy extraordinarily carefully. There are three dead children in the tragic Lindsay Clancy case.
00:16:31.260 The facts should remain at the center of every conversation about it. Cora was five,
00:16:37.100 Dawson was three, Callan was eight months old. Lindsay Clancy does not deny that she strangled
00:16:43.000 all three of them in their Massachusetts home. She's admitted to committing the act repeatedly.
00:16:48.980 The question before the jury is whether she was legally responsible when she did it. Her lawyers
00:16:54.280 are arguing that she was suffering from postpartum psychosis and heard a voice ordering her to kill 0.98
00:17:00.440 the children and herself. I understand that a view of her internet searches indicate that this was a
00:17:07.340 premeditated crime as she researched the best way to off her own children. Prosecutors say the
00:17:14.620 evidence points instead to planning. Clancy waited until her husband left, had calculated his travel
00:17:20.680 time, and acted during that window when she knew she would be alone with the children. On Tuesday,
00:17:27.060 after four days of deliberations, the jury told Judge William Sullivan that it could not reach
00:17:32.480 unanimous verdict. Sullivan sent the jury back out to keep trying. What's unsettling outside the
00:17:38.920 courtroom is this tendency driven by social media propaganda to turn a horrifying criminal case
00:17:45.300 into an emotional identification campaign in which the adult defendant gradually becomes
00:17:51.160 the principal victim and the murdered children recede into the background. Compassion for
00:17:57.380 severe mental illness is of course legitimate but postpartum psychosis is real and the insanity
00:18:03.420 defense is just because the law recognizes that some people can be so profoundly impaired that
00:18:09.280 ordinary criminal responsibility does not apply but compassion compassion cannot become moral
00:18:15.820 amnesia we should be especially suspicious when therapeutic language becomes a solvent that
00:18:21.500 dissolves agency, responsibility, and ultimately the humanity of the victims. The cultural
00:18:28.160 personality is developing around Lindsay Clancy as the end game of the feminist culture that has 1.00
00:18:34.500 made murdering innocents in the womb into something positive and good. Three children 0.76
00:18:39.940 lost their lives here. Let's not lose sight of that. Thanks for joining us in the Stone Zone.
00:18:44.800 I'm Roger Stone. Don't go away because we'll be right back with more politics.
00:18:51.500 this is the stone zone now get in the zone it's the stone zone a man who's gone through hell
00:19:07.220 but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him not everybody but
00:19:13.460 people love him and respect him roger stone where's roger stone here's roger stone
00:19:18.900 welcome back in the stone zone it's so great to be back from vacation i think it was ben franklin
00:19:25.480 who said that no man needs a vacation so much as the man who just returned from one and that is
00:19:30.920 certainly the truth packing unpacking repacking and so on i was fortunate enough to stay with
00:19:37.820 friends although i think it was also ben franklin who said that after three days house guests and
00:19:43.020 fish begin to smell. So I'm grateful for the host who hosted us in an incredible mountain
00:19:50.620 villa, my wife and I, in the mountains of Eze, France, right outside of Monaco. Monaco
00:19:59.140 is an incredible city, by the way, the cleanest city. The police in Monaco will actually give
00:20:04.720 a person a ticket if they are not well dressed. So it is not a place where I think Steve Bannon
00:20:09.860 should go. In any event, President Donald Trump and Senator Shifty Adam Schiff are now actually
00:20:16.320 agreeing on economic policy. And somewhere in Washington, a lobbyist just checked the temperature
00:20:22.660 in hell. President Trump says that Congress should enact a federal film production tax incentive to
00:20:28.920 bring movie and television jobs back to the United States. And Adam Schiff, one of President Trump's
00:20:35.080 most relentlessly vicious political adversaries, says he strongly agrees. Fox News reported that
00:20:42.020 American entertainment employment has fallen by roughly 49,000 jobs since 2022, as productions
00:20:49.860 have migrated towards countries and states offering lower costs and better incentives.
00:20:55.680 Schiff has spent months promoting a federal credit model partly on state programs, arguing that
00:21:01.120 overseas subsidies are draining American film and entertainment production.
00:21:06.420 President Trump, it turns out, is making essentially the same reshoring argument.
00:21:10.520 If other countries are using economic incentives to steal an American industry,
00:21:15.200 well then Washington should give producers a reason to film here instead.
00:21:20.000 So in a rare and unexpected case of bipartisan unity,
00:21:23.840 the political knives are down and both Trump and Schiff are looking at the same balance sheet.
00:21:29.040 But should we immediately ask the next question, bring jobs back to where?
00:21:34.640 A federal incentive does not have to become a bailout for the Hollywood establishment.
00:21:39.460 Georgia and other states already demonstrated that movie production can flourish outside of Hollywood, California.
00:21:45.920 So a properly structured national credit would reward filming anywhere in the United States
00:21:51.060 and allow states to compete over taxes, regulation, workforce, and costs.
00:21:56.740 That would mean that, for example, American camera operators or electricians, carpenters, caterers, small businesses can benefit without writing a blank check to preserve California's traditional entertainment monopoly.
00:22:11.480 Hollywood spent generations pushing left-wing values while exporting productions whenever another jurisdiction offered a better deal.
00:22:20.520 So nobody owes the old studio system sentimental protection.
00:22:25.100 The economic objective is American production.
00:22:29.000 Schiff may want to save Hollywood, but President Trump's proposal is concerned about saving American jobs, not just the jobs of Hollywood.
00:22:36.900 We can reassure the industry and encourage competition without providing a bailout to Hollywood's cultural sewer.
00:22:45.140 Meanwhile, a good friend of mine, former Trump attorney Alina Haba,
00:22:49.040 disclosed that FBI agents actually showed up at her New Jersey home
00:22:54.280 when she was subpoenaed as a lawyer during Jack Smith's overreaching investigation.
00:23:00.680 Alina Haba appeared before a federal grand jury
00:23:03.500 investigating the Mar-a-Lago documents matter back in 2023,
00:23:09.080 alongside other Trump lawyers who were questioned about their involvement with the former president.
00:23:13.680 To me, this is an obvious violation of the Sixth Amendment. Any America is entitled to confidentiality and a confidential relationship with their attorney, but not in the District of Columbia.
00:23:25.920 And then there is the Arctic Frost investigation. Senate District Committee records released by Chairman Chuck Grassley say that Jack Smith's election investigation issued 197 subpoenas seeking information connected to more than 400 Republicans, individuals, and organizations, including communications, financial records, and information involving members of Congress.
00:23:50.920 This is not someone knocking on one lawyer's door.
00:23:53.380 This is an investigative apparatus operating on an enormous scale,
00:23:57.680 and Alina Haber is right to raise awareness about the FBI attempting to strong-arm her. 0.82
00:24:03.760 Prosecutors, of course, can compel testimony when privilege does not apply,
00:24:07.320 but grand juries possess broad authority.
00:24:10.340 Those are facts, but those powers become especially sensitive
00:24:13.100 when investigation reaches lawyers, political organizations,
00:24:17.020 Congressional Communications and the Opposition Party's institutional network.
00:24:22.260 Senator Chuck Grassley notes that Arctic Frost became a political fishing expedition
00:24:27.420 while Special Counsel Jack Smith has maintained that his team followed lawful investigative procedures.
00:24:34.060 Where was the probable cause?
00:24:36.120 The weaponization question is ultimately bigger than Jack Smith or Donald Trump for that matter.
00:24:40.920 Americans have to know that prosecutors cannot use the immense power of the federal government
00:24:45.900 as a political weapon regardless of who controls Washington.
00:24:50.220 By now, I think it's abundantly clear that Jack Smith
00:24:53.660 and many others like Robert Mueller exceeded their lawful authority.
00:24:58.560 The plethora of evidence shows that there was a coordinated conspiracy
00:25:02.180 of bureaucrats working to oust President Trump from office
00:25:05.840 and ruined his chances to run for re-election in 2024.
00:25:10.660 This is not news to anyone who's been listening to The Stone Zone,
00:25:14.300 But now that the truth is laid bare for all in the public to see, it's time to see whether anyone will be held accountable.
00:25:22.620 The Russian collusion hoax, the two impeachments, Arctic Frost, the raid on Marlago, these are among the greatest dirty tricks in American political history.
00:25:33.220 It's certainly the greatest single abuse of power.
00:25:38.340 But the question yet remains whether anyone will be indicted, whether anyone will be charged, whether anyone will stand trial.
00:25:46.780 I'm still praying for a just result, but, well, we shall see.
00:25:51.700 The jurisdiction does lie in South Florida.
00:25:54.060 That's the good news because it means you might actually get an objective judge and jury and a grand jury that would vote to indict.
00:26:01.240 but we are waiting patiently for justice.
00:26:06.780 Meanwhile, House Republicans are finally putting some basic questions on the table
00:26:10.560 for the American people to consider.
00:26:13.080 Is socialism compatible with the American tradition?
00:26:17.120 Should voters prove citizenship before they can vote?
00:26:20.540 Should people show identification before casting a ballot?
00:26:24.140 Should the Supreme Court remain at nine justices
00:26:26.900 instead of becoming captured by the political left?
00:26:29.620 some discussion of increasing it to 13 justices. I guess you just keep adding justices until you
00:26:35.560 have a liberal majority. To me, these are not complicated questions, but they show how
00:26:40.840 they're now on the table for the public to consider as Republicans advance an anti-socialism
00:26:46.840 resolution while supporting proof of citizen measures, voter ID, and a constitutional amendment
00:26:52.880 locking the Supreme Court in at nine seats.
00:26:57.140 It's undoubtedly good news that Republicans are drawing the lines,
00:27:00.700 making members vote, and forcing politicians to tell the country where they stand.
00:27:06.580 Socialism is no longer confined to the college faculty lounge.
00:27:10.420 It's an organized force represented by elected officials at every level across the country.
00:27:16.220 It's not limited to New York.
00:27:17.480 we have seen socialists succeed in far-flung places like Michigan, Colorado, and, of course, California.
00:27:25.460 Their agenda has multiple billion-dollar donors.
00:27:28.700 It has dedicated effective activists working at all hours to achieve its goals,
00:27:33.180 and it has ascended to become the dominant and controlling force inside the Democrat voter coalition.
00:27:40.140 But conservatives should not confuse a mere resolution on the U.S. House floor as victory.
00:27:46.860 The American left did not build power by issuing press releases.
00:27:50.760 It built institutions.
00:27:52.580 It funded legal groups.
00:27:54.440 It captured bureaucracies.
00:27:56.480 It cultivated universities, nonprofits, media organizations, and activist networks.
00:28:02.780 This is why Republicans have to think beyond message and votes.
00:28:06.380 If an institution has become politicized, investigate it thoroughly.
00:28:11.020 If election rules are weak, reform them through statute.
00:28:14.140 it. If non-profit groups break the law, prosecute those crimes and drag them through the brutal
00:28:19.720 court process. I know what this is like. I have been through it. If federal agencies abuse their
00:28:25.480 authority, expose the documents, identify the officials, indict the offenders, and change the
00:28:31.180 rules. The right has spent too many years congratulating itself for winning arguments
00:28:35.960 while the left concentrated on controlling the machinery of government. To me, this has to change.
00:28:42.740 Politics, you see, is not beanbag.
00:28:45.560 Politics is not a debating society.
00:28:48.380 Power lies in institutions, procedures, and, well, personnel.
00:28:52.840 A resolution is the planting of a flag.
00:28:55.420 It's symbolic, it's good in that sense, but governing means taking the hill.
00:29:00.280 The Trump administration started the process, and now it must be finished while Republicans are still in control.
00:29:06.720 Washington, D.C. Republicans may talk tough about foreign control of American farmland,
00:29:11.640 but many of them are double dealing and looking for any foreign payoff they can find.
00:29:16.620 A new report indicated that Republican insiders are being paid
00:29:20.320 by a company controlled by a Hong Kong-based parent
00:29:23.940 to lobby on the very legislation dealing with that problem.
00:29:28.040 Federal disclosure shows that Smithfield Foods paid Holland and Knight
00:29:32.560 hundreds of thousands of dollars while lobbying,
00:29:35.880 including veterans of Republican congressional offices,
00:29:38.480 worked on legislation covering foreign ownership restrictions.
00:29:43.180 Smithfield is headquartered in Virginia,
00:29:45.480 but its own 2026 SEC filing says a Hong Kong-based WH group
00:29:51.220 beneficially controls 87% of stock.
00:29:55.260 So Smithfield is a Chinese company. 0.60
00:29:57.940 This so clearly is a ChaiCom operation masquerading as an American company. 0.74
00:30:04.160 Smithfield also reports owning approximately 8,700 acres of U.S. prime farm and ranch land. 0.51
00:30:11.940 These lobby filings prove that Republicans do not have a problem with China conquering our farmlands as long as the price is right.
00:30:19.420 You cannot, if you're not a Canadian citizen, you cannot buy land in Canada.
00:30:25.560 Why does America not have such a land, a law?
00:30:28.640 Why are Chinese communists not prohibited from buying land, ranch land, farmland, or harbors, airports, toll roads, other facilities in the United States? 0.67
00:30:41.700 A company overwhelmingly owned by a Hong Kong-based conglomerate hired these well-connected Republican lobbyists to work an issue Republicans described as a national security threat. 0.90
00:30:53.560 So it's no wonder when the public does not take Republican rhetoric seriously when it comes to national security when they behave in this manner.
00:31:03.460 If you go look at the report by the U.S. Agriculture Department, it tells you falsely that Chinese communists only control less than 368 acres of land, 368,000 acres of land in the United States.
00:31:17.820 That number is way off.
00:31:19.880 They have that many acres in Oklahoma alone.
00:31:22.760 Now, the Trump Justice Department has drawn a clear line showing that they are rejecting the Republican hypocrisy that has defined the party in the past.
00:31:31.560 The U.S. Department of Agriculture's National Farm Security Action Plan treats foreign adversary control of American agricultural land as a potential national security threat and calls for tighter disclosure, stronger penalties, and closer coordination with the Committee on Foreign Investment of the United States.
00:31:51.980 Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins has avowed that foreign adversaries will not control America's land, laboratory, or livelihoods.
00:32:00.700 The problem, of course, is Washington's revolving door.
00:32:03.720 You see, someone leaves Capitol Hill on a Friday, they come back on Monday carrying a corporate client and a considerably larger expense account.
00:32:12.740 Conservatives can't denounce the swamp when Democrats cash the checks and suddenly become philosophical when Republicans do it.
00:32:20.440 A Republican policy, as an America first policy, cannot survive on an America last lobbying policy.
00:32:27.960 If a foreign adversary threatens national security, as the CCP does, well, an American family cannot be treated as just another influence account.
00:32:37.900 We need serious lobbying reform in Congress to put this type of revolving door of these malign influence peddlers out of commission for good. 0.86
00:32:46.460 But above all, we clearly need a law that prohibits the communist Chinese, and this is very important, or those who are fronting for them from buying up important land, farmland, ranch land, any real estate in the United States. 0.92
00:33:04.020 Governor Ron DeSantis has signed a law that prohibits the Chinese communists from buying land in Florida, but when you read the small print, it only applies to land that is next to a national security facility. 0.95
00:33:16.460 Unfortunately, national security facilities not to find any place else in the law. 0.92
00:33:21.760 So we need a federal law that prohibits the Chinese communists from buying up America. 0.97
00:33:27.820 That's just common sense. 0.99
00:33:30.080 I'm waiting for the Republicans in the House and the Senate to do more than just talk about it.
00:33:34.580 I can tell you what the polls showed.
00:33:36.260 87% of the American people would support such a law.
00:33:40.240 It's time to now move on it.
00:33:41.980 I'm Roger Stone.
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00:34:24.080 Have you heard about the Richmond Catholic memo?
00:34:27.440 Because if you haven't, it should make every American uncomfortable.
00:34:30.960 You see, federal law enforcement shamefully treated traditional Catholic religious beliefs as a marker of extremism.
00:34:37.620 The Justice Department, under Joe Biden's latest review, says that FBI personnel investigated traditional Catholics and actually monitored a priest's travel and communications, relied partly on controversial ideological material, and ultimately found no evidence connecting those targets to any criminal activity or violent extremism.
00:34:58.800 This is not a small bureaucratic mistake.
00:35:01.680 You see, the feds were listening to disgraced groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center and acted on their biased propaganda other than real evidence.
00:35:11.280 The FBI has enormous surveillance power and investigative authority.
00:35:15.620 This power has been abused to ruin reputations and lives.
00:35:18.860 We saw this power frequently abused in the Russiagate affair, the January 6th probe, the cases against the Trump electors, and the border operations to destroy Donald Trump and keep him from running again in 2024.
00:35:33.420 Now, an earlier Inspector General Review said it found no evidence that religious bias motivated the memo's creation.
00:35:42.060 This is another example of the bureaucracy protecting itself
00:35:45.020 regardless of the damage that was done to its victims.
00:35:49.160 It does not erase the larger problem identified by the newer review.
00:35:55.300 How did this process get as far as it did before no one said this is wrong?
00:36:00.000 Why were there not men and women of honor within the bureaucracy
00:36:03.060 who stood up and stopped this?
00:36:05.200 Essentially, they were spying on people because of their religious beliefs.
00:36:10.640 Trump administration has made reversing ideological weaponization a central theme through executive action, investigations, a task force examining anti-Christian bias, and policies strengthening religious liberty and pro-life priorities.
00:36:27.680 Hyde Amendment enforcement is back.
00:36:30.160 The Mexico City policy is back.
00:36:32.500 The philosophical divide could hardly be clearer.
00:36:35.760 Far-left extremists view traditional Christianity as a political force that must be monitored and contained.
00:36:43.700 They have no respect for the First Amendment of the Constitution, and they abuse their power to undermine freedom over religion.
00:36:51.000 Federal government should not be investigating crimes or creeds. 0.91
00:36:55.860 They should be watching criminals, not church pews.
00:36:58.840 Those individuals responsible for the Richmond memo should be run out of government for what they did to innocent believers in Jesus Christ.
00:37:07.760 We saw throughout 2020 how the left rigs elections, but you do not need somebody stuffing ballot boxes into a box or ballots into a box at three in the morning to unethically influence the results.
00:37:20.100 The sophisticated game happens much earlier by recruiting a candidate with a confusing name, funneling money through a committee with an innocent-sounding title, helping the weakest candidate in the other party's primary, facing an independent who happens to split your opponent's vote, exploding disclosure deadlines, manufacturing fake polls, fabricating headlines, and building a facade of momentum.
00:37:45.080 That's modern political battlefield, and that's how it plays out right now in 2026.
00:37:49.500 So, for example, in Alaska, Republicans point out to a second Dan Sullivan, who was recruited to run as an independent in order to confuse voters and to skew results for Democrats in the upcoming U.S. Senate election.
00:38:06.100 So, in other words, there is Dan Sullivan, the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate.
00:38:10.500 And then there's this mysterious Dan Sullivan, who filed as an independent.
00:38:15.240 Pretty clever. Sounds like a dirty trick to me.
00:38:18.660 Democrat-aligned money is now reportedly backing independents in these red-line-leaning states.
00:38:24.900 So this is not a one-off.
00:38:26.920 This is a dirty trick that's going to be used in multiple states across the country in our upcoming elections.
00:38:33.520 Some people have said that I'm a dirty trickster.
00:38:35.880 I deny that.
00:38:36.740 One man's dirty trick is another man's civic participation.
00:38:40.780 But this idea of recruiting somebody with an identical name and putting them on the ballot as an independent
00:38:46.580 in order to split the Republican vote.
00:38:49.320 Well, that is a dirty trick, if I've ever heard one.
00:38:52.940 We've got to watch for this kind of activity in the 2026 election.
00:38:56.520 The Democrats are that desperate to grab control.
00:38:59.260 Meanwhile, thank you for joining us today on The Stone Zone.
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