The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - January 10, 2026


The Stone Zone ｜ 01-09-26

Topics
affordability crisis
Hosted by
Roger Stone Troy Smith Jake Novak
Mentioned
Donald Trump Renee Good Hillary Clinton Pamela Dean George Floyd Part Victor Davis Hanson Kristi Noem Tim Waltz Patterson Lee Harvey Oswald Charlie Kirk Keith Ellison O.J. Simpson Mark Levin JD Vance Liz Collin Ed Markey Fort Lee Carlos and 7 more
The Stone Zone ｜ 01-07-26 Rod Martin ｜ 01-14-26

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39 minutes

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68

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32

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On today's show, Bob and Sarah discuss the recent shooting of a police officer in Dallas, Texas, and the fallout from it. They also discuss the case of a woman who was shot and killed by an ICE agent in the middle of a law enforcement operation.

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00:00:00.000 Every week, the Payne family cuts straight to the real financial story.
00:00:04.460 The one question, Bob, everyone's asking is, are we in an artificial intelligence bubble?
00:00:10.080 You've been through boom and busts. What do you think?
00:00:12.860 No hype, no myths, just what actually matters to your money.
00:00:17.440 Does feel very similar to what we experienced in the 90s. Where are we,
00:00:21.460 though? Are we in 1995, 1997, 1999?
00:00:25.300 Listen to the Payne Points of Wealth on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:00:30.000 The Stone Zone. Entertaining and informative.
00:00:33.880 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:00:36.820 Well, I'm really, I'm really kind of confused, but totally sure and on solid ground at the same time.
00:00:49.960 I know that that officer did nothing wrong and, quite frankly, is, should be at work, back at work,
00:00:57.300 and no problem whatsoever.
00:00:59.580 There are United States senators calling for his prosecution.
00:01:03.860 This is, you know, you have to have a certain set of shared values, don't you?
00:01:09.600 Do we, I, I, I, I, now I'm even thrown further because there are some people, now granted,
00:01:14.860 they're all women. 1.00
00:01:15.840 And I say that, well, whatever, I said it.
00:01:19.340 I know a few smart women who are telling me that this is, well, he had, he could have done this,
00:01:24.100 he could have done that, the cop.
00:01:25.220 And I'm just taken aback somewhat, because these are conservatives, right?
00:01:29.880 And they've, they're pretty sensible people.
00:01:33.300 But they're totally wrong on this one.
00:01:35.520 They're totally and completely wrong.
00:01:39.280 That poor guy is going through a lot right now.
00:01:42.200 The guy who, who did this.
00:01:44.660 Now, he's in the paper.
00:01:46.880 Have you seen the reporting about him?
00:01:48.960 All-around great guy.
00:01:50.520 Military veteran.
00:01:53.760 He is married with children.
00:01:56.920 And he's going through potentially hell right now.
00:01:59.700 I mean, he doesn't deserve it.
00:02:02.780 Where's this all going?
00:02:04.640 It doesn't seem to be dying down.
00:02:06.020 I know they want to turn this into George Floyd Part 2,
00:02:09.620 which would be terrible.
00:02:12.300 But it could happen.
00:02:13.920 It could happen.
00:02:14.760 We're on the way.
00:02:15.540 A lot of spineless people out there just want this to,
00:02:19.720 they're going to exploit it and try to make money out of it 0.93
00:02:22.720 and gain power and the rest.
00:02:26.360 Really?
00:02:27.560 Tim Waltz said it all, didn't he?
00:02:30.060 Tim Waltz, he was on to something, wasn't he?
00:02:33.580 Cut four.
00:02:35.140 We've got a golden rule. 1.00
00:02:37.220 Mind your own damn business. 1.00
00:02:38.800 Mind your own damn business. 1.00
00:02:40.380 Just mind your own business. 1.00
00:02:42.080 Mind your own damn business on things. 0.99
00:02:44.000 And the thing that makes communities work really, really well 0.99
00:02:47.500 is that golden rule. 0.99
00:02:48.980 Mind your own damn business. 1.00
00:02:50.220 Mind your own damn business. 1.00
00:02:52.120 She went and she parked at this, 1.00
00:02:54.340 at a law enforcement operation right in the middle of it.
00:02:58.320 And we believe she did it because she was basically a part-time agitator
00:03:05.040 when it came to ICE.
00:03:06.180 She was using one of those apps that track ICE
00:03:08.760 so people can show up and screw with ICE.
00:03:11.920 This is a thing they did.
00:03:15.400 They love to kind of, there's a program for this.
00:03:18.100 Listen to this.
00:03:18.980 Joshua Aaron, he created an app that would track ICE
00:03:23.680 so members of the community could come out and screw with ICE.
00:03:27.560 Cut 10.
00:03:28.420 Well, ICE block in itself is not a safety risk.
00:03:31.220 You know, ICE block serves as an early warning system
00:03:33.760 and was simply a crowd-sourced early warning system
00:03:36.720 where users could say,
00:03:38.680 I publicly see ICE agents,
00:03:41.320 immigration and custom enforcement agents,
00:03:43.140 doing something in public.
00:03:44.460 They have a raid, blackish cities pull up, whatever.
00:03:47.260 When they report that on the app,
00:03:49.400 it simply notifies people within a five-mile radius of that sighting
00:03:54.420 so that they can avoid the area.
00:03:56.360 And then what?
00:03:58.960 Avoid the area?
00:04:00.020 Obviously, it can be used,
00:04:01.440 oh, there they are,
00:04:02.300 let's go to the area
00:04:03.800 and mess with them 0.76
00:04:05.640 and screw with them 0.90
00:04:07.480 and make their lives difficult
00:04:09.160 and break the law right in front of them
00:04:11.920 and we'll break the law again 1.00
00:04:13.920 and then we'll try to kill one of them 1.00
00:04:15.580 and scream murder 1.00
00:04:17.540 when they defend themselves.
00:04:20.620 And by the way,
00:04:21.140 the woman who did this,
00:04:22.220 according to the media,
00:04:23.140 she's just a, 0.92
00:04:24.480 you know,
00:04:25.540 she's a 37-year-old mom.
00:04:27.740 That's it.
00:04:29.240 37-year-old mom.
00:04:31.420 It just sounds righteous somehow.
00:04:33.840 I don't think it makes any difference.
00:04:35.620 Just about all the presidential assassins,
00:04:37.780 I mean,
00:04:38.840 Lee Harvey Oswald,
00:04:41.020 who was part of it
00:04:42.500 but wasn't the part of it,
00:04:44.580 he was a married father
00:04:45.640 with children
00:04:47.020 and a veteran.
00:04:51.440 Let's see here.
00:04:52.320 You can describe,
00:04:53.740 oh,
00:04:54.260 the young man who shot Charlie Kirk
00:04:56.960 was an aspiring college student. 0.96
00:05:00.460 These evil monsters.
00:05:01.520 Here,
00:05:02.040 listen to this little angel. 0.82
00:05:03.280 She's just an angel, right?
00:05:04.400 Cut nine, please.
00:05:05.380 Cut nine.
00:05:06.500 37-year-old Renee Good.
00:05:08.780 She was the mother of a six-year-old.
00:05:11.580 We do understand,
00:05:12.700 according to city leaders,
00:05:13.700 that she was here as a legal observer.
00:05:16.500 She wasn't a terrorist.
00:05:18.560 She wasn't a criminal.
00:05:20.820 She was a mom.
00:05:21.820 We would believe this woman 0.93
00:05:23.780 was some domestic terrorist,
00:05:25.920 which she was not.
00:05:27.080 This is a 37-year-old woman,
00:05:30.040 mother,
00:05:30.980 white woman at that. 0.97
00:05:32.780 White woman at that? 1.00
00:05:33.880 What do you mean by that,
00:05:34.980 Reverend Al?
00:05:35.420 What's that supposed to mean?
00:05:38.640 I don't know what that's actually supposed to mean
00:05:40.480 coming from Reverend Al.
00:05:42.240 A white woman at that? 1.00
00:05:44.380 Well,
00:05:44.700 Al,
00:05:44.960 for a long time,
00:05:45.960 only thought
00:05:46.580 injustice happened to
00:05:48.520 people of color.
00:05:50.520 Not that
00:05:51.200 this is an injustice.
00:05:52.500 We know it's not.
00:05:53.760 But he thinks it is.
00:05:54.740 He usually only cares about injustice
00:05:56.120 to people of color.
00:05:57.360 A white woman? 1.00
00:05:58.000 How about that?
00:05:58.580 I'm even commenting on a white woman. 0.60
00:06:00.120 I'm showing sympathy for a white woman. 0.72
00:06:01.780 I'm usually busy calling them Karens.
00:06:05.720 I'm looking at a situation in Minnesota.
00:06:08.640 Now these guys can barely move
00:06:10.460 without Black Lives Matter 1.00
00:06:12.480 and the sisterhood
00:06:13.640 and everything else showing up.
00:06:15.700 The band of vegans,
00:06:17.860 right?
00:06:18.060 Just every whack job group in the book
00:06:21.660 is showing up.
00:06:23.200 Now,
00:06:24.040 for a change,
00:06:25.720 it looks like,
00:06:26.680 guess who's stepping in to help them?
00:06:28.320 Because I don't think
00:06:29.240 they cannot help them at this point.
00:06:33.980 They would be violating the law.
00:06:36.480 It's the local police.
00:06:38.320 The local police in Minneapolis.
00:06:40.220 I think there's some provision
00:06:41.600 under the law
00:06:42.620 that they have to assist.
00:06:44.140 They weren't assisting the first time.
00:06:45.720 They only came
00:06:47.580 once a person was dead.
00:06:49.900 Actually,
00:06:50.560 what do we have here?
00:06:53.560 Oh,
00:06:53.900 Mayor of Portland,
00:06:55.080 Keith Wilson.
00:06:57.260 Mayor of Portland.
00:06:58.300 Portland, Oregon is in the news
00:06:59.540 because
00:07:00.200 DHS agents
00:07:02.780 fired upon
00:07:04.120 an illegal alien criminal 0.67
00:07:06.240 who was wanted.
00:07:08.060 We don't have all the circumstances,
00:07:09.760 but all the information.
00:07:11.200 They didn't care.
00:07:12.720 All they wanted to do
00:07:13.680 was hold a press conference
00:07:14.800 and condemn ICE.
00:07:16.180 Cut 12.
00:07:17.660 We shared not just our concerns,
00:07:20.060 but our grief
00:07:21.020 for the families
00:07:21.820 who are suffering
00:07:22.620 and grief
00:07:24.180 for the recklessness
00:07:25.600 of our federal government.
00:07:27.780 The administration
00:07:28.800 is trying to divide us,
00:07:31.360 to pit communities
00:07:32.600 against one another,
00:07:34.400 to make us fear
00:07:35.880 one another.
00:07:37.260 Make us fear
00:07:38.520 one another.
00:07:39.760 They had this thing.
00:07:40.580 They had about 75 people,
00:07:42.140 including the governor,
00:07:43.100 come out
00:07:44.280 and make a statement
00:07:45.140 complaining about
00:07:45.940 the federal government.
00:07:47.300 All they knew
00:07:48.000 that,
00:07:49.040 well,
00:07:49.400 basically,
00:07:50.080 that an illegal
00:07:51.180 sex offender
00:07:51.880 was on the loose
00:07:52.640 in Portland.
00:07:53.780 They got away
00:07:54.200 from DHS
00:07:55.000 and they came out
00:07:56.420 and condemned
00:07:58.140 the federal government.
00:07:59.240 This is the governor.
00:08:00.880 Everybody,
00:08:01.280 they all kind of
00:08:01.700 look the same,
00:08:02.360 right?
00:08:02.640 Go ahead.
00:08:02.980 We are standing here today
00:08:05.380 united
00:08:06.060 as a state
00:08:08.020 wanting peace
00:08:09.600 and safety
00:08:10.220 in our communities.
00:08:11.800 We are all shaken
00:08:13.120 and outraged
00:08:14.280 by another terrible,
00:08:15.620 unnecessary,
00:08:16.920 violent event
00:08:17.620 instigated
00:08:18.380 by the reckless
00:08:19.300 agenda
00:08:20.300 of the Trump administration.
00:08:22.180 This time
00:08:22.960 in our own state,
00:08:23.780 in our largest city,
00:08:24.980 coming just one day
00:08:26.200 after the tragedy
00:08:27.680 in Minnesota.
00:08:28.220 Well,
00:08:29.720 here's what she's
00:08:30.680 moaning about.
00:08:32.240 From Homeland Security,
00:08:34.160 at 219 Pacific Time
00:08:35.580 yesterday,
00:08:36.120 U.S. Border Patrol
00:08:36.940 agents were conducting
00:08:38.160 a targeted vehicle
00:08:39.680 stop in Portland, Oregon.
00:08:41.380 The passenger
00:08:41.900 of the vehicle
00:08:42.560 and target
00:08:43.200 is a Venezuelan
00:08:44.260 illegal alien
00:08:45.220 affiliated with
00:08:46.000 the transnational
00:08:46.840 Trende Aragua
00:08:47.720 prostitution ring
00:08:48.780 and involved
00:08:49.620 in a recent
00:08:50.180 shooting in Portland.
00:08:51.680 The vehicle driver
00:08:52.560 is believed to be
00:08:53.460 a member of the
00:08:54.300 vicious Venezuelan 1.00
00:08:55.540 gang Trende Aragua.
00:08:56.860 When agents
00:08:58.460 identified themselves
00:08:59.520 to the vehicle
00:09:00.160 occupants,
00:09:00.780 the driver
00:09:01.220 weaponized his vehicle
00:09:02.380 and attempted
00:09:02.840 to run over
00:09:03.500 the law enforcement
00:09:04.240 agents.
00:09:05.400 Fearing for his
00:09:06.120 life and safety,
00:09:07.540 an agent fired
00:09:08.480 a defensive shot.
00:09:09.740 The driver
00:09:10.140 drove off
00:09:10.740 with the passenger
00:09:11.440 fleeing the scene.
00:09:12.300 The situation
00:09:12.800 is evolving.
00:09:14.180 More information
00:09:14.880 is forthcoming.
00:09:17.640 And that's all
00:09:18.600 that the governor
00:09:19.260 and the mayor
00:09:19.720 had at that moment.
00:09:21.500 Police are allowed
00:09:22.420 to defend themselves
00:09:23.360 and that
00:09:26.020 their very
00:09:26.540 legitimacy
00:09:27.060 now is falling
00:09:28.420 into question.
00:09:30.420 And I just
00:09:31.920 I kind of don't
00:09:32.920 know where this
00:09:33.640 does it peter out
00:09:34.680 like everything
00:09:35.160 else tends to
00:09:36.020 peter out?
00:09:37.240 Do we just
00:09:37.500 kind of move on
00:09:38.200 and people start
00:09:38.680 looking at something
00:09:39.400 else?
00:09:40.420 And you know
00:09:40.840 what I'd love to
00:09:41.320 do is talk to
00:09:41.820 Victor Davis Hanson
00:09:42.700 right now.
00:09:43.500 Unfortunately,
00:09:43.900 he's undergoing
00:09:44.620 treatment.
00:09:45.760 He's actually
00:09:46.740 had cancer surgery.
00:09:49.080 So he won't be
00:09:50.120 with us for a while,
00:09:51.220 but he'll be back.
00:09:52.040 You know,
00:09:52.160 there are a handful
00:09:53.480 of wise men
00:09:54.840 in America.
00:09:56.660 Victor Davis Hanson
00:09:58.060 is definitely
00:09:59.060 one of them.
00:10:00.020 Mark Levin
00:10:00.660 is another.
00:10:03.320 You know,
00:10:03.980 we used to have
00:10:04.480 dozens.
00:10:06.280 I say Donald Trump
00:10:07.120 and J.D. Vance
00:10:07.860 too.
00:10:09.220 And speaking of
00:10:09.940 J.D. Vance,
00:10:11.460 I think he kind of
00:10:12.640 set the record
00:10:13.200 straight and
00:10:14.040 drew a line
00:10:15.780 in the sand.
00:10:16.960 Okay?
00:10:17.640 Number one,
00:10:18.460 six, six.
00:10:19.880 I stand with ice.
00:10:21.080 We stand with all
00:10:21.960 of our law
00:10:22.380 enforcement officers
00:10:23.220 and part of that
00:10:24.500 is recognizing
00:10:25.260 that you people
00:10:26.120 in the media,
00:10:27.060 not everybody
00:10:27.540 in this room,
00:10:28.500 but many people
00:10:29.200 in this room
00:10:29.800 have been lying
00:10:30.780 about this attack.
00:10:32.320 She was trying
00:10:33.760 to ram this guy
00:10:35.100 with her car.
00:10:37.040 He shot back.
00:10:38.260 He defended himself.
00:10:39.600 He's already been
00:10:40.400 seriously wounded
00:10:41.400 in law enforcement
00:10:42.100 operations before
00:10:43.100 and everybody
00:10:43.920 who's been
00:10:44.760 repeating the lie
00:10:45.620 that this is
00:10:46.260 some innocent woman 0.99
00:10:47.160 who was out
00:10:47.640 for a drive
00:10:48.240 in Minneapolis
00:10:48.840 when a law
00:10:49.820 enforcement officer
00:10:50.480 shot at her.
00:10:51.020 You should be 0.99
00:10:51.620 ashamed of
00:10:52.080 yourselves.
00:10:52.940 Every single
00:10:53.500 one of you.
00:10:54.000 Questions?
00:10:55.260 Hey, stop
00:10:55.840 everything.
00:10:57.480 Oh my gosh.
00:10:59.020 This is,
00:10:59.560 this is,
00:11:00.080 I have not
00:11:01.780 seen this yet.
00:11:02.440 Let me see,
00:11:02.820 how old is this?
00:11:04.640 It just came out.
00:11:05.580 This is breaking
00:11:06.160 news.
00:11:07.300 We have
00:11:07.720 point of view
00:11:09.280 footage from
00:11:09.920 the ICE agent
00:11:10.700 who was rammed
00:11:11.540 by the anti-ICE
00:11:12.720 activist
00:11:13.200 Rene Good
00:11:13.820 in Minneapolis
00:11:14.540 and it's just
00:11:15.700 been released.
00:11:16.660 He was clearly
00:11:17.320 not just hit,
00:11:18.820 but hit hard.
00:11:19.560 And we
00:11:21.500 actually see,
00:11:22.300 okay,
00:11:22.500 do me a favor,
00:11:23.120 take this right
00:11:23.900 away.
00:11:24.580 It will only
00:11:25.040 take me a
00:11:25.480 moment.
00:11:26.840 We're going
00:11:27.340 to make sure
00:11:27.920 I'm sending it
00:11:29.200 to you,
00:11:29.580 Carlos,
00:11:29.900 right now.
00:11:31.280 This is
00:11:32.160 possibly going
00:11:33.260 to settle it
00:11:33.900 once and for
00:11:34.540 all,
00:11:35.160 but I'm
00:11:36.060 watching it
00:11:36.540 here.
00:11:36.820 Let's see.
00:11:37.280 Let's see.
00:11:37.780 Let's see.
00:11:39.380 Okay.
00:11:40.300 I have to
00:11:41.020 turn the sound
00:11:41.520 up and we
00:11:41.840 can't do that
00:11:42.340 until you have
00:11:42.940 it.
00:11:43.100 It's okay.
00:11:43.540 All right.
00:11:43.800 But this
00:11:45.420 is the
00:11:45.720 cleanest view
00:11:46.700 we're going
00:11:47.020 to have of
00:11:47.440 anything.
00:11:48.900 And I see
00:11:49.700 Rene Good
00:11:50.440 right in her
00:11:51.440 face.
00:11:51.680 She says
00:11:52.080 something to
00:11:52.560 the cop.
00:11:54.240 How could
00:11:54.880 you?
00:11:55.280 What's going
00:11:55.720 on there?
00:11:57.300 I wonder if
00:11:57.640 they're making
00:11:58.000 Oh my God.
00:11:59.640 Tell me as
00:12:00.180 soon as it's
00:12:00.640 done.
00:12:00.980 Any bad
00:12:01.460 words?
00:12:02.380 No bad
00:12:02.960 words,
00:12:03.240 right?
00:12:04.180 Okay.
00:12:04.620 Hit it.
00:12:05.840 Oh,
00:12:06.080 there are some
00:12:06.540 curses. 1.00
00:12:07.540 Damn it. 1.00
00:12:08.680 All right. 1.00
00:12:10.840 Alpha news.
00:12:11.700 I just had
00:12:12.460 Liz Collin on
00:12:13.180 one of my
00:12:13.520 videos.
00:12:14.100 She's a
00:12:14.600 founder of
00:12:15.300 Alpha news
00:12:15.780 up there in
00:12:16.520 Minnesota.
00:12:18.160 It's interesting.
00:12:18.900 Sometimes you
00:12:19.340 get dealt a
00:12:20.100 bad break.
00:12:21.200 Her husband
00:12:21.620 was a police
00:12:22.200 officer during
00:12:23.180 George Floyd
00:12:23.800 and she was
00:12:25.640 one of their
00:12:26.040 star news
00:12:26.660 anchors.
00:12:27.940 After George
00:12:28.800 Floyd,
00:12:29.420 they started
00:12:29.940 picketing his
00:12:30.820 house.
00:12:32.320 Everybody knew
00:12:32.980 he was like a
00:12:33.500 top chief.
00:12:34.660 She worked at
00:12:35.580 the TV station.
00:12:36.700 She had to
00:12:37.080 quit.
00:12:37.620 I think he
00:12:38.080 had to quit.
00:12:39.440 I can't wait
00:12:40.160 to hear what
00:12:40.740 she said.
00:12:41.700 We see her
00:12:43.680 look right in
00:12:44.400 the camera and
00:12:45.080 she says
00:12:45.480 something to
00:12:45.940 the cop and
00:12:47.120 the cop is
00:12:47.660 actually video
00:12:48.600 it.
00:12:49.140 The wife is 0.87
00:12:51.260 videoing him.
00:12:52.640 We're going to
00:12:52.940 hear a lot of
00:12:53.620 information.
00:12:54.700 Is it ready?
00:12:56.020 Okay.
00:12:56.280 We'll take a
00:12:56.600 quick break.
00:12:57.880 All right.
00:12:58.500 And then I
00:13:00.140 think we're
00:13:00.420 going to be
00:13:00.720 shocked.
00:13:01.660 All right.
00:13:02.840 Give me 90
00:13:03.640 seconds.
00:13:04.240 Okay.
00:13:04.460 We'll be right
00:13:05.160 back with the
00:13:06.900 newest piece
00:13:07.900 of information,
00:13:09.200 newest piece of
00:13:10.240 evidence,
00:13:10.540 and the most
00:13:11.020 important piece
00:13:11.820 of evidence.
00:13:12.500 Be right back
00:13:13.520 with that.
00:13:15.980 Every week,
00:13:16.780 the Payne family
00:13:17.600 cuts straight to
00:13:18.460 the real financial
00:13:19.480 story.
00:13:20.220 The one question,
00:13:21.000 Bob,
00:13:21.380 everyone's asking
00:13:22.300 is,
00:13:23.300 are we in an
00:13:24.000 artificial intelligence
00:13:25.040 bubble?
00:13:25.880 You've been through
00:13:26.600 boom and busts.
00:13:27.840 What do you think?
00:13:28.680 No hype,
00:13:29.600 no myths,
00:13:30.820 just what actually
00:13:31.740 matters to your
00:13:32.700 money.
00:13:33.040 It does feel
00:13:33.940 very similar to
00:13:35.220 what we experienced
00:13:36.040 in the 90s.
00:13:36.740 Where are we,
00:13:37.280 though?
00:13:37.420 Are we in 1995,
00:13:38.840 1997,
00:13:40.040 1999?
00:13:41.180 Listen to the
00:13:41.740 Payne points of
00:13:42.520 wealth on the
00:13:43.420 Red Apple Podcast
00:13:44.600 Network.
00:13:46.920 The Stone Zone,
00:13:48.740 entertaining and
00:13:50.000 informative on the
00:13:51.160 Red Apple Podcast
00:13:52.400 Network.
00:13:53.840 All right,
00:13:54.280 here it is.
00:13:54.820 It is the closest.
00:13:56.040 It is the best
00:13:56.940 angle so far.
00:13:59.240 It tells a lot.
00:14:01.460 It doesn't tell
00:14:01.960 everything.
00:14:02.960 You don't see the...
00:14:04.060 It looks...
00:14:05.300 Okay,
00:14:05.520 what happens
00:14:06.080 is this.
00:14:07.300 The man who
00:14:08.460 ultimately pulls
00:14:09.300 the trigger
00:14:09.760 is approaching
00:14:10.660 the vehicle
00:14:11.420 from the other
00:14:13.120 side.
00:14:13.480 You know those
00:14:13.840 two officers
00:14:14.400 who approach,
00:14:15.320 right?
00:14:16.720 And they're the
00:14:17.440 ones who say,
00:14:17.960 get out of the
00:14:18.300 car.
00:14:18.880 Well,
00:14:19.080 just before that,
00:14:20.460 the ICE officer
00:14:21.680 who pulls the
00:14:22.300 trigger ultimately
00:14:23.000 is approaching
00:14:23.520 from the other
00:14:24.020 side,
00:14:24.440 and all he's
00:14:25.020 doing is
00:14:25.560 videotaping the
00:14:27.020 vehicle.
00:14:27.460 He goes once
00:14:28.400 around the
00:14:28.820 vehicle.
00:14:29.980 The first voice
00:14:31.220 you're going to
00:14:31.860 hear is
00:14:33.100 Renee Good,
00:14:34.020 who is
00:14:35.300 cheerful
00:14:35.940 and says,
00:14:38.800 I'm not mad
00:14:39.580 at you,
00:14:39.960 or,
00:14:40.420 dude,
00:14:40.700 you're fine.
00:14:41.500 I'm not going
00:14:41.860 to,
00:14:42.120 you know,
00:14:42.400 I'm not mad
00:14:43.340 at you.
00:14:43.860 And then,
00:14:44.700 right after that,
00:14:46.280 he goes to
00:14:48.420 the back of
00:14:48.880 the car,
00:14:49.760 and the wife
00:14:51.260 is there,
00:14:51.860 and the wife
00:14:52.480 is taunting
00:14:53.260 him,
00:14:54.340 just being so
00:14:56.040 vicious and 0.85
00:14:56.700 mean and 1.00
00:14:57.160 stupid. 1.00
00:14:58.060 And then he 1.00
00:14:58.340 goes further
00:14:59.120 around.
00:14:59.640 She follows
00:15:00.260 him,
00:15:01.100 taunts him
00:15:01.700 even more,
00:15:03.120 and then he
00:15:03.680 does like a
00:15:04.260 360s all the
00:15:05.280 way around,
00:15:06.400 and as the
00:15:06.880 other cops
00:15:07.620 come up,
00:15:08.140 you hear,
00:15:08.480 get out of
00:15:08.780 the car,
00:15:09.040 get out of
00:15:09.380 the car.
00:15:10.240 That's when
00:15:10.800 she hits the
00:15:11.580 gas,
00:15:12.240 and then the
00:15:12.700 camera,
00:15:14.080 you hear him
00:15:14.420 go,
00:15:14.580 ooh,
00:15:14.940 like he was
00:15:15.500 hit by a
00:15:16.420 car.
00:15:17.220 You don't see
00:15:18.180 him pull the
00:15:19.060 trigger,
00:15:19.560 because the
00:15:20.020 camera's kind
00:15:20.720 of like tumbling
00:15:21.340 at that point.
00:15:22.520 But this is
00:15:23.040 what we call
00:15:23.660 very,
00:15:24.900 very exculpatory.
00:15:27.020 All right?
00:15:27.740 Not probably
00:15:28.920 the best video
00:15:29.800 to have so far.
00:15:30.600 Well,
00:15:30.900 this is just,
00:15:31.480 this is the
00:15:31.920 same.
00:15:32.280 This is,
00:15:32.620 this is pretty
00:15:33.040 damn good.
00:15:34.520 Go ahead and 0.99
00:15:35.120 hit it.
00:15:35.420 Let's see.
00:15:40.020 Walking around
00:15:40.620 the car.
00:15:51.160 This is the
00:15:51.660 driver.
00:15:52.000 That's fine,
00:15:52.500 dude.
00:15:52.840 I'm not mad.
00:15:53.700 It's fine.
00:15:54.440 It's on your
00:15:54.900 face.
00:15:55.520 I'm not mad.
00:15:56.120 It's okay.
00:15:56.580 We don't change
00:15:57.120 our plates every
00:15:57.840 morning.
00:15:58.660 Just so you
00:15:59.020 know.
00:15:59.240 It's the wife. 1.00
00:15:59.520 It'll be the
00:16:00.240 same plate when
00:16:00.860 you come talk
00:16:01.400 to us later.
00:16:02.300 That's fine.
00:16:03.080 U.S.
00:16:03.440 citizen.
00:16:03.980 You want to
00:16:06.160 come at us?
00:16:07.440 You want to
00:16:07.780 come at us?
00:16:08.900 I said,
00:16:09.180 go get yourself
00:16:09.680 some lunch,
00:16:10.180 big boy.
00:16:10.820 Go ahead.
00:16:11.720 Get out of the
00:16:12.120 car.
00:16:13.040 Get out of the
00:16:13.520 car.
00:16:15.080 Get out of the
00:16:15.860 car.
00:16:15.880 I did not
00:16:16.700 do it.
00:16:17.120 Oh! 0.60
00:16:20.040 All right.
00:16:24.720 Does that
00:16:25.320 kind of make
00:16:25.760 sense?
00:16:26.520 Probably not.
00:16:28.440 Let's take it
00:16:29.200 from the top.
00:16:30.140 All right.
00:16:30.480 We'll take it
00:16:30.900 from the very
00:16:31.640 top.
00:16:32.820 Just before we
00:16:33.840 start, the
00:16:35.100 officer who
00:16:35.720 pulls the
00:16:36.240 trigger, ultimately,
00:16:37.300 right?
00:16:37.560 This is his
00:16:38.600 camera, not his
00:16:39.420 body camera, but a
00:16:41.120 cell phone that he's
00:16:42.060 holding up, recording
00:16:44.140 everything he's
00:16:45.480 seeing.
00:16:46.240 He goes up to the
00:16:47.340 Honda Pilot, parked
00:16:48.560 in the middle of the
00:16:49.360 street.
00:16:50.200 He's about, at
00:16:51.260 this point, maybe
00:16:52.280 15 feet away on
00:16:55.800 the passenger's
00:16:56.900 side.
00:16:57.520 Okay?
00:16:58.380 One, two, three,
00:16:59.920 hit it.
00:17:07.180 Dog in the back
00:17:08.160 seat.
00:17:11.420 He's now at the
00:17:12.380 front of the car.
00:17:16.420 Driver's talking
00:17:17.160 to him.
00:17:17.380 I'm not mad.
00:17:18.180 I'm not mad at
00:17:19.760 you, she said.
00:17:20.700 It's okay.
00:17:21.180 We don't change
00:17:21.700 our plates every
00:17:22.420 morning.
00:17:22.620 This is the wife, 1.00
00:17:22.640 outside the car.
00:17:24.280 It'll be the same
00:17:25.060 plate when you come
00:17:25.720 talk to us later.
00:17:26.720 She's holding up a
00:17:27.400 camera.
00:17:27.700 U.S.
00:17:28.040 citizen.
00:17:30.360 You want to come
00:17:30.860 at us?
00:17:32.040 You want to come
00:17:32.500 at us?
00:17:33.040 You want to come
00:17:33.560 at us?
00:17:33.700 She's taunting 1.00
00:17:34.220 him.
00:17:36.060 He's calling 0.98
00:17:37.020 him fat. 0.74
00:17:37.700 Here come the 0.97
00:17:38.360 other cops on the
00:17:38.960 other side.
00:17:39.900 Now he's in front
00:17:40.740 of the car.
00:17:43.640 She hit him.
00:17:44.840 She hit him. 0.57
00:17:46.380 She hit him with 0.89
00:17:47.260 the car.
00:17:47.700 That's what's
00:17:48.480 apparent here.
00:17:49.800 Also, that wife, 1.00
00:17:51.920 so nasty. 1.00
00:17:53.780 Nasty. 1.00
00:17:55.060 And the dumb 1.00
00:17:56.220 woman going along 1.00
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00:19:01.240 The Stone Zone.
00:19:03.360 Entertaining and
00:19:04.620 informative.
00:19:05.520 On the Red Apple
00:19:06.300 Podcast Network.
00:19:07.420 The video you're
00:19:09.620 about to watch is
00:19:10.780 disturbing, but we
00:19:12.140 cannot look away. 0.97
00:19:15.200 Oh my f***ing God! 0.99
00:19:18.000 What the f***? 0.99
00:19:19.720 I am horrified by the 0.99
00:19:21.520 footage that we just
00:19:22.620 watched and eyewitness
00:19:24.880 accounts of ICE agent
00:19:26.920 shooting someone in the
00:19:28.880 head and killing them. 1.00
00:19:31.340 Kristi Noem and the 1.00
00:19:32.560 Trump administration are
00:19:33.840 lying.
00:19:34.980 This is not self-defense.
00:19:36.840 This is murder.
00:19:39.720 And this is what 0.70
00:19:40.400 happens when a corrupt
00:19:41.660 federal administration
00:19:42.960 floods a city with
00:19:45.180 masked ICE thugs and
00:19:47.620 treats American cities
00:19:48.900 like occupied
00:19:49.740 terrorists. 0.53
00:19:50.300 I stand with Minnesota
00:19:51.640 leaders.
00:19:52.720 ICE must get out of 1.00
00:19:54.560 our cities now.
00:19:56.420 Kristi Noem must go.
00:19:59.120 Now that'd be one thing
00:20:00.280 if you heard it from,
00:20:01.300 I don't know, some
00:20:02.440 disgruntled individual at
00:20:04.400 Washington Square Park,
00:20:05.760 right?
00:20:06.000 smoking weed, but
00:20:07.680 that's a United States
00:20:08.940 senator.
00:20:09.780 And they're all like
00:20:10.720 this, right?
00:20:11.180 This one happens to be
00:20:12.040 Marky, Democrat from
00:20:13.440 Massachusetts, right?
00:20:15.160 Calling it murder like
00:20:16.280 that.
00:20:17.260 Now, whether he believes
00:20:18.360 that or not, kind of
00:20:19.460 irrelevant, there's two
00:20:21.360 things.
00:20:21.620 He might just believe it
00:20:22.520 or he's just so
00:20:23.380 intimidated and scared
00:20:24.580 by the hard left of
00:20:26.340 his party because they
00:20:27.040 call the shots.
00:20:28.280 You know, they really
00:20:29.280 are in control and
00:20:30.660 they're under enormous
00:20:31.540 pressure to do more
00:20:33.100 and be more outrageous
00:20:34.140 and be more like them
00:20:35.400 and they're vulnerable
00:20:36.780 to it.
00:20:37.740 Especially a guy like
00:20:38.500 Ed Markey, right?
00:20:39.380 Because for the
00:20:40.560 Democrat wacko party,
00:20:42.280 an older white man is
00:20:44.140 like just not 0.98
00:20:45.080 particularly cool.
00:20:46.280 And it's all about
00:20:46.960 optics with these 1.00
00:20:47.660 idiots, right? 1.00
00:20:48.680 All about what's on the 1.00
00:20:49.520 outside, not what's on
00:20:50.520 the inside, right?
00:20:51.320 So he's looking right in
00:20:53.200 the camera.
00:20:53.720 It's the most bizarre
00:20:54.500 thing.
00:20:55.060 He's like, really?
00:20:57.100 It's desperate.
00:20:58.420 It's fierce.
00:20:59.180 It's a lot of things
00:21:01.080 all at the same time.
00:21:02.100 It's a really strange
00:21:03.380 individual, but he's not
00:21:06.000 the only one, all right?
00:21:07.040 This is formerly sane
00:21:09.000 people giving into the
00:21:10.440 mob.
00:21:10.860 They joined the mob,
00:21:12.080 right?
00:21:12.800 They didn't want to,
00:21:13.780 but they did.
00:21:14.880 And now they're full
00:21:16.200 compliant adherence to
00:21:17.740 mob, the mob, the
00:21:20.200 rule of the mob.
00:21:21.020 I want to play this
00:21:21.700 video one more time.
00:21:23.100 The more I watch it,
00:21:24.200 the more, yeah, this
00:21:25.000 is a, this is, this
00:21:26.600 shows that he got hit.
00:21:27.400 I think you can hear
00:21:28.380 how he actually gets
00:21:29.400 hit.
00:21:29.840 All right.
00:21:30.260 So does it work when I
00:21:31.920 describe it?
00:21:32.560 I'll just describe it
00:21:33.300 once.
00:21:34.380 I'll tell you what I'm
00:21:35.240 seeing and I'll get out
00:21:36.220 whenever somebody is
00:21:37.060 talking.
00:21:37.500 All right.
00:21:37.800 You'll play it.
00:21:38.580 This is the officer who
00:21:39.880 pulls the trigger.
00:21:40.520 He's approaching the
00:21:41.760 Honda pilot that has
00:21:43.660 this Renee good woman
00:21:44.880 sitting in there.
00:21:45.620 Now she's smiling and
00:21:46.760 happy, right?
00:21:48.240 She's breaking the law, 0.83
00:21:49.260 but she's smiling.
00:21:49.780 Oh, oh, I'm not mad at
00:21:51.240 you, officer.
00:21:51.940 I'm not mad at you.
00:21:53.460 You know, I don't know
00:21:54.360 why she's saying that
00:21:55.200 or not saying that.
00:21:56.000 I am slightly
00:21:57.780 surprised, you know,
00:21:58.900 that she does look
00:21:59.920 rather cheerful, but I
00:22:02.120 know the type of
00:22:02.800 like, oh, I'm not mad
00:22:03.620 at you.
00:22:03.940 I'm mad at the system.
00:22:05.020 You're just doing your
00:22:05.780 job, bro.
00:22:06.240 I get that.
00:22:07.600 Yeah, I know.
00:22:08.140 But you are hindering
00:22:09.120 us from doing our job,
00:22:10.200 right?
00:22:10.740 You're here in the
00:22:11.320 middle of the street.
00:22:11.860 Again, you don't get
00:22:12.540 shot for that.
00:22:13.560 But when you turn your
00:22:14.580 vehicle into a weapon,
00:22:15.700 whether it be intentional
00:22:17.700 or unintentional, that's
00:22:19.720 when fatal force can be
00:22:21.140 used because this man,
00:22:22.500 I believe, had a
00:22:24.980 reasonable expectation
00:22:26.300 that if he did not
00:22:27.900 shoot, he would be 0.97
00:22:29.060 killed and or seriously 1.00
00:22:30.680 injured.
00:22:31.560 And that would make the
00:22:32.660 use of deadly force
00:22:33.640 completely justified.
00:22:35.340 All right.
00:22:35.620 So he's approaching the
00:22:36.660 Honda pilot.
00:22:37.480 I can see about half the
00:22:38.580 car.
00:22:38.880 He's 15 feet away
00:22:40.120 approaching from the
00:22:41.560 passenger side.
00:22:42.480 You do not see the
00:22:44.340 officer who's holding
00:22:45.460 this camera once.
00:22:46.420 It's not body camera.
00:22:47.560 It looks like it's
00:22:48.080 personal cell phone
00:22:48.940 camera that he took.
00:22:50.320 All right, let's do
00:22:51.760 it again.
00:22:52.140 One, two, three, go.
00:22:56.840 He comes out of the
00:22:57.760 car.
00:23:01.840 Going to the front of
00:23:03.240 her car.
00:23:04.620 It's Honda.
00:23:05.200 All right.
00:23:05.480 I see the grill.
00:23:06.220 I see her in her seat.
00:23:07.660 She leans out the car.
00:23:09.600 That's fine, dude.
00:23:10.500 I'm not mad at you.
00:23:11.700 That's fine, dude.
00:23:12.220 I'm not mad at you.
00:23:12.780 But what about the
00:23:13.280 wife?
00:23:13.620 This is the wife. 1.00
00:23:14.140 We don't change our
00:23:14.820 plates every morning.
00:23:16.040 Just so you know,
00:23:17.220 it'll be the same plate
00:23:18.180 when you come talk to us
00:23:19.160 later.
00:23:19.720 That's fine.
00:23:20.320 U.S.
00:23:20.860 citizen.
00:23:21.380 Former
00:23:21.580 You want to come at us?
00:23:24.700 You want to come at us? 0.85
00:23:26.140 I say go get yourself
00:23:26.940 some lunch, big boy.
00:23:28.140 She's saying you want
00:23:28.940 to come at us as she 1.00
00:23:29.820 follows him.
00:23:30.660 Now he's back in the
00:23:31.760 front of the car.
00:23:32.440 Get out of the car.
00:23:32.920 I say you're not
00:23:33.800 going to go.
00:23:37.160 Yeah.
00:23:38.380 At that point, he
00:23:40.520 was, he thought he
00:23:41.380 might be dragged.
00:23:42.960 Who knows?
00:23:43.420 We'll find out from
00:23:44.280 him.
00:23:45.160 But the car hit him.
00:23:47.160 There's a dog in the
00:23:48.060 back seat, by the way.
00:23:49.840 Contrary to numerous
00:23:51.040 reports, there was no
00:23:52.480 passenger in this car.
00:23:54.540 The wife was trying to 1.00
00:23:55.520 get back in.
00:23:57.280 Like the cops were
00:23:57.920 trying to open the
00:23:58.600 door on her. 0.97
00:23:59.880 She went, why would 0.94
00:24:00.920 she be happy?
00:24:02.460 I'm not, I don't have a
00:24:03.220 problem with you as if
00:24:03.940 she's calling all the
00:24:04.580 shots.
00:24:05.360 I don't ever, I'm not
00:24:06.800 angry at you, dude. 0.85
00:24:08.220 Well, again, her 0.64
00:24:11.700 demeanor doesn't
00:24:13.280 really matter.
00:24:15.140 It doesn't matter. 0.77
00:24:16.240 The wife is such a 1.00
00:24:17.560 vicious B-I-T-C-H. 1.00
00:24:20.200 When they go to the
00:24:21.040 back and she starts
00:24:21.800 talking about license
00:24:22.560 plates, we don't
00:24:23.020 change our license
00:24:23.640 plates every time.
00:24:24.380 It'll be the same when
00:24:25.060 we get back, dude.
00:24:25.960 He takes a video, he's
00:24:27.260 taking a video of the
00:24:28.120 license plate, which is
00:24:29.520 from Missouri, by the
00:24:30.500 way.
00:24:30.720 A lot of people are,
00:24:31.680 you know, she's a 0.99
00:24:32.180 Minnesota person,
00:24:33.000 Minnesota person.
00:24:33.700 Turns out the
00:24:34.200 reports of the
00:24:35.340 Missouri connection are
00:24:36.580 very, very true.
00:24:38.100 I want to do this one
00:24:39.140 more time, all right,
00:24:40.460 because I want to see
00:24:40.900 everything we can
00:24:41.540 possibly see in this
00:24:42.520 thing and hear
00:24:43.000 everything we can
00:24:43.520 possibly hear.
00:24:44.620 Starting from the
00:24:45.260 beginning, he's on the
00:24:46.280 east side or the
00:24:47.360 passenger side.
00:24:48.200 One, two, three, go.
00:24:52.780 Gets out of his car,
00:24:53.940 approaches, goes to
00:24:55.180 the front of the car,
00:24:57.320 circles around to
00:24:58.880 where the driver is.
00:24:59.680 She leans out.
00:25:04.960 That's fine, dude.
00:25:05.840 I'm not mad at you.
00:25:07.140 That's fine, dude.
00:25:07.640 I'm not mad at you.
00:25:08.500 Her last words.
00:25:09.200 It's okay, we don't
00:25:09.880 change our plates every
00:25:10.840 morning.
00:25:11.360 It's the wife. 1.00
00:25:12.600 It'll be the same
00:25:13.420 plate when you come
00:25:14.080 talk to us later.
00:25:15.180 That's fine.
00:25:15.960 U.S.
00:25:16.320 citizen.
00:25:17.140 He's walking away,
00:25:18.420 back towards the front
00:25:19.760 of the car.
00:25:20.240 She follows him.
00:25:21.380 You want to come
00:25:21.760 with us?
00:25:24.660 Insults him for being
00:25:25.400 overweight.
00:25:26.740 She tries to get 1.00
00:25:27.540 back in.
00:25:27.960 He's at the front.
00:25:29.120 She hits the gas.
00:25:30.260 He's hit.
00:25:31.240 Shoots.
00:25:34.960 Justified.
00:25:36.560 Justified.
00:25:37.220 Well, couldn't he
00:25:37.880 have?
00:25:38.180 No, actually.
00:25:38.760 The car hit him.
00:25:41.300 You know, I think
00:25:42.080 you're, if you're
00:25:43.500 going to give me a
00:25:44.020 gun and a car is
00:25:45.060 about to run me
00:25:46.100 over, this is an
00:25:47.120 option I have.
00:25:47.760 May not be a 0.98
00:25:48.200 perfect option, but
00:25:48.920 it's an option.
00:25:51.640 Let's see here.
00:25:52.460 Pamela, hello.
00:25:54.380 Hey, these two were
00:25:56.440 playing games.
00:25:57.200 They were playing
00:25:57.660 Predator and Prey.
00:25:58.640 They were playing
00:25:59.100 games with the
00:26:00.780 agents.
00:26:02.300 And guess what?
00:26:02.920 They lost.
00:26:04.240 They meant business.
00:26:05.040 They were doing, they
00:26:06.240 were up to no good.
00:26:07.460 They were luring them
00:26:08.400 in, probably so they
00:26:09.220 could get a better
00:26:09.660 shot at them, you
00:26:10.420 know, running them 0.98
00:26:10.940 down.
00:26:12.040 And they played the
00:26:14.280 game and they lost.
00:26:15.180 Well, listen, I don't
00:26:18.800 like those phrases, to
00:26:20.020 be honest.
00:26:20.520 I don't like, you
00:26:21.080 know, you play the
00:26:21.620 game, you got lost,
00:26:22.440 you effed around and 0.53
00:26:23.220 you felt when you
00:26:23.800 found out, you know,
00:26:25.500 I just, there's
00:26:26.060 something I don't, I
00:26:27.040 mean, I don't, I,
00:26:28.920 you're right.
00:26:30.060 They did all those
00:26:30.640 things and you can do
00:26:32.300 all those things without
00:26:32.940 being shot, except to
00:26:34.380 the point where she
00:26:35.140 hit the gas and try to
00:26:36.420 run over the guy.
00:26:37.640 You know, that's not a
00:26:38.520 game.
00:26:38.880 That's, that's attempted
00:26:39.800 murder, right?
00:26:41.260 All the other stuff is a
00:26:42.160 bit of a game and also
00:26:43.060 dangerous and law
00:26:44.180 breaking, you know,
00:26:45.920 she played a game and
00:26:47.060 they lost, you know,
00:26:48.200 that's a, that's a fake
00:26:49.500 tough guy talk.
00:26:50.660 And I'm kind of done
00:26:51.480 with that too.
00:26:52.060 I hear it on their
00:26:52.620 side.
00:26:52.960 I hear it on our
00:26:53.520 side.
00:26:54.000 I hear FO both sides
00:26:55.720 say F around and find
00:26:56.880 out, you know what I
00:26:57.720 mean?
00:26:59.160 They broke the law.
00:27:00.360 Yes.
00:27:01.480 And none of that was
00:27:02.480 under penalty of, you
00:27:04.640 know, whatever the law
00:27:05.400 says, parking your car
00:27:06.520 in the middle of the
00:27:07.180 street on purpose to
00:27:08.220 obstruct a federal
00:27:09.280 investigation.
00:27:11.400 I bet if that's
00:27:12.580 prosecuted, it's a
00:27:13.540 five-year prison
00:27:14.200 sentence.
00:27:16.380 Resisting arrest?
00:27:17.780 I don't know.
00:27:18.520 What is that?
00:27:19.260 Actually, in New York
00:27:20.000 City, I don't think it's
00:27:20.780 even a crime anymore.
00:27:21.820 You're allowed to
00:27:22.360 resist arrest.
00:27:23.180 Can you believe that?
00:27:24.940 I don't know.
00:27:25.720 They accumulated a lot
00:27:26.980 of crime.
00:27:28.240 Probably wouldn't have
00:27:28.860 gone to jail for it,
00:27:29.680 but would have been
00:27:30.240 convicted of something
00:27:31.160 or pled to something.
00:27:32.920 But when she hit the
00:27:33.940 gas pedal, that's when
00:27:35.660 it ramped up to
00:27:36.380 attempted murder or
00:27:37.460 possible murder.
00:27:39.000 And that's the thing
00:27:40.040 that you get shot for.
00:27:41.000 Does that make sense,
00:27:41.980 Pamela?
00:27:42.460 I don't want to be,
00:27:43.120 I'm not going squishy
00:27:44.000 or weird or woke on
00:27:45.260 you.
00:27:46.420 Hey, I had a job full
00:27:48.820 of danger.
00:27:51.280 What did you do?
00:27:52.660 I taught emotionally
00:27:54.180 disturbed high school
00:27:55.380 level.
00:27:56.200 I taught the bloods in 0.99
00:27:56.980 the crypts.
00:27:58.320 I had females who 1.00
00:27:59.440 threatened my life. 0.96
00:28:00.320 Where the hell were 0.99
00:28:00.860 you the teacher? 0.82
00:28:01.580 Why didn't you get a
00:28:02.120 better school?
00:28:02.820 Where were you the
00:28:04.040 teacher?
00:28:05.240 Well, I was good at
00:28:06.300 my job.
00:28:06.860 I know, but where?
00:28:08.180 Well, I don't want
00:28:08.940 to say.
00:28:09.360 Oh, give me a break. 0.60
00:28:10.320 It was play.
00:28:10.840 It was probably Fort
00:28:11.860 Lee, New Jersey.
00:28:12.680 It wasn't that bad.
00:28:14.560 No, it was the
00:28:15.660 Patterson area.
00:28:16.880 Oh, Patterson.
00:28:17.880 Now, that's the hood.
00:28:19.360 I hear you.
00:28:20.760 That's pretty serious
00:28:21.760 stuff, although lately
00:28:22.600 it's gone all Arab. 0.89
00:28:24.140 You know that, right?
00:28:24.820 Well, part of it is,
00:28:26.440 yeah, a major part of
00:28:27.800 it.
00:28:28.060 Yeah, that's where the
00:28:28.880 crime is in New Jersey.
00:28:30.280 Oh, boy.
00:28:30.720 Well, I'm glad you got
00:28:31.360 the hell out of there.
00:28:32.780 I'm sorry to be so
00:28:33.820 blunt, but it's true.
00:28:35.660 The job in that
00:28:36.760 school district had
00:28:38.060 gotten like 10 times,
00:28:39.580 a thousand times more
00:28:40.600 challenging than doing
00:28:42.180 it in, let's say,
00:28:43.240 a different zip code.
00:28:44.860 I know what it's like
00:28:45.800 to be threatened and
00:28:47.000 to handle it, and I 0.90
00:28:48.120 was damn good at my 0.67
00:28:48.760 job. 0.96
00:28:49.060 I won a governor's
00:28:49.740 award from my
00:28:50.260 colleagues for teacher
00:28:51.140 of the year.
00:28:51.600 What governor was it?
00:28:52.880 It doesn't make any
00:28:53.960 trouble.
00:28:55.360 I'm impressed.
00:28:56.280 I'm impressed, Pamela.
00:28:57.520 And all right, so you
00:28:58.120 used to be, you know
00:28:58.940 what danger's like.
00:29:00.000 Anybody ever pull a
00:29:00.740 gun on you?
00:29:01.520 I had a girl tell me
00:29:03.180 that she had a lot of
00:29:03.880 knives at home.
00:29:05.060 Wow.
00:29:05.980 The next day, the
00:29:06.640 hallway was crowded, and
00:29:09.000 I felt a sharp pain in
00:29:10.280 my back, and I was 0.94
00:29:12.120 like, oh, crap, she 0.96
00:29:13.080 got me. 0.98
00:29:14.400 And I mean, that's the
00:29:16.920 way you do your job,
00:29:17.980 you know?
00:29:18.200 It's like, oh, uh-oh.
00:29:19.860 But luckily, it was a 0.83
00:29:21.220 somebody smashed into me
00:29:22.860 with a notebook, a
00:29:23.660 sharp notebook, and I
00:29:24.660 was relieved.
00:29:25.400 But she was expelled
00:29:26.320 because she did
00:29:27.060 threaten my life.
00:29:27.980 And then I had another
00:29:28.620 one who threatened to 0.87
00:29:29.780 kill all the 0.86
00:29:30.480 cheerleaders. 1.00
00:29:31.020 And he, you know, he
00:29:33.080 came to me because he
00:29:34.740 trusted me that maybe
00:29:36.120 in some weird way I
00:29:37.180 would help him.
00:29:38.640 And I had to tell the
00:29:39.580 cheerleaders, they were 1.00
00:29:40.360 being very nice and
00:29:41.360 trying to console him.
00:29:42.920 And I said, don't
00:29:43.560 console him.
00:29:44.820 Don't console him.
00:29:45.720 Don't go near him.
00:29:47.120 Don't console him.
00:29:48.800 He wants the guy that
00:29:50.000 would be cheerleader
00:29:50.760 killer?
00:29:51.460 Yeah, the cheerleaders 0.66
00:29:52.280 thought if they talk
00:29:53.000 nice to him.
00:29:53.800 Oh, yeah, right.
00:29:54.540 No, that's not going
00:29:55.040 to work.
00:29:56.240 No, that that don't
00:29:57.220 work.
00:29:57.620 That don't work with
00:29:58.340 bad people.
00:29:58.820 And then I had a kid
00:29:59.580 who I hope you didn't.
00:30:00.760 Never mind.
00:30:01.140 Keep going.
00:30:01.640 What?
00:30:01.880 You had a kid.
00:30:02.340 What?
00:30:03.320 And I had a young man,
00:30:04.740 I should say, because my
00:30:05.820 kids could be up to 21
00:30:06.780 years old.
00:30:07.680 And he decided to leave
00:30:10.180 the room before the end
00:30:11.800 of the day.
00:30:13.100 And he was in a
00:30:14.320 threatening mood that
00:30:15.700 day.
00:30:15.960 You know, his mind
00:30:16.560 switched.
00:30:17.100 And he said, well, I'm
00:30:17.980 leaving.
00:30:18.260 And I said, oh, really?
00:30:19.340 And he and he said,
00:30:21.080 what are you going to do
00:30:21.520 about it?
00:30:22.020 So, you know, he's
00:30:22.760 threatening me.
00:30:23.420 And I said, well, not
00:30:24.240 much.
00:30:24.620 And he goes, well, what
00:30:25.340 do you mean?
00:30:25.660 You're the teacher.
00:30:26.220 You've got to do
00:30:26.600 something.
00:30:26.940 I said, what am I going
00:30:29.020 to do?
00:30:29.360 Pull you back in the
00:30:30.060 room?
00:30:30.360 Are you kidding?
00:30:31.040 You're like close to
00:30:31.840 six foot and I'm 5'5"?
00:30:33.140 What are you talking
00:30:34.000 about?
00:30:34.280 So he kind of giggled
00:30:35.100 at that.
00:30:35.480 And he said, oh, so
00:30:36.240 then he gets closer to
00:30:37.100 me and he's starting to
00:30:37.980 threaten me, figuring,
00:30:38.880 okay, we've got somebody
00:30:40.340 easy here, maybe.
00:30:42.420 And so I'm looking at my
00:30:43.960 teacher's chair, ready to
00:30:45.660 pick it up.
00:30:46.700 And he goes, oh, what are
00:30:47.740 you going to do if I
00:30:48.640 attack you?
00:30:49.260 And I said, well, I'm
00:30:50.120 going to defend myself.
00:30:51.880 And he said, well, what
00:30:52.460 do you mean?
00:30:52.760 You can't defend
00:30:53.560 yourself.
00:30:53.980 You're a teacher.
00:30:54.980 And I said, oh, no, the
00:30:56.280 minute you start
00:30:56.880 threatening my life, my
00:30:58.060 body, my person, I
00:30:59.580 become, and I gave my
00:31:00.880 name and I said, I'm a
00:31:02.200 regular person and I can
00:31:03.360 do whatever I do.
00:31:04.360 Okay, what happened
00:31:05.060 then?
00:31:05.680 Did he stand down?
00:31:07.340 Something tells me he
00:31:08.100 stood down and you
00:31:08.880 stared him down.
00:31:09.900 Down and the other
00:31:10.900 kids clapped and they
00:31:12.680 had a lot of respect
00:31:13.360 for me.
00:31:13.720 My students respected
00:31:15.420 me.
00:31:16.200 All right.
00:31:16.640 And I never had a
00:31:18.280 yelling scream.
00:31:19.140 I did it all through
00:31:20.160 psychology and they
00:31:22.760 trusted me.
00:31:23.780 They even told me one
00:31:24.660 time when the child
00:31:25.380 study team asked me to
00:31:26.280 do something in front
00:31:27.220 of them that I didn't
00:31:28.380 want to do, give good
00:31:29.220 grades to somebody who
00:31:29.960 didn't deserve it.
00:31:30.700 And my students told
00:31:32.700 me, miss, miss, why
00:31:34.040 don't you just.
00:31:34.880 Hey, I know you're
00:31:35.700 already told us you're
00:31:36.540 the teacher of the
00:31:37.400 year.
00:31:37.800 Okay, you can regale
00:31:39.980 us for stories for the
00:31:41.060 next six hours.
00:31:42.160 I appreciate it.
00:31:43.400 What's the bottom line
00:31:44.380 on the ice thing?
00:31:45.580 Well, I was looking at
00:31:46.880 some pictures and the
00:31:48.140 way the mob is all over
00:31:49.920 them.
00:31:50.220 DeSantis just passed a
00:31:51.320 law.
00:31:51.920 All right.
00:31:52.140 Do me a favor.
00:31:52.800 Look at the new video.
00:31:53.900 Look at the new video.
00:31:54.760 Have you seen it yet?
00:31:55.760 You got to look at the
00:31:57.280 new video.
00:31:57.800 It's not even on cable.
00:31:58.960 You got Twitter.
00:31:59.560 Go ahead and look at
00:32:00.760 it.
00:32:00.940 No one else has seen
00:32:01.660 it.
00:32:01.820 It's not on any of the
00:32:02.620 networks, but it's brand
00:32:04.020 new video.
00:32:04.700 You got to go do that
00:32:05.440 for me, Pamela.
00:32:06.120 That's your homework
00:32:06.860 assignment.
00:32:07.620 Get it.
00:32:08.400 Yeah.
00:32:08.640 I'm the teacher.
00:32:09.300 That's your homework
00:32:10.020 assignment.
00:32:10.480 I love it.
00:32:10.880 Thank you, Dean.
00:32:11.940 Hello.
00:32:12.840 Is he there?
00:32:13.420 Good morning.
00:32:14.420 Yeah.
00:32:15.180 Hi.
00:32:15.540 How are you?
00:32:15.920 Yes.
00:32:16.220 You can hear me.
00:32:16.720 You know, I heard you
00:32:17.500 say that these things
00:32:18.480 peter out that you're
00:32:19.860 talking about now.
00:32:20.900 And I wondered, you
00:32:23.340 know, what what what
00:32:24.680 what happens next?
00:32:26.100 And things do peter out
00:32:27.200 sometimes.
00:32:27.740 I don't know if this
00:32:28.320 does or it doesn't.
00:32:29.500 And quite frankly,
00:32:30.100 everything does peter
00:32:30.960 out.
00:32:31.360 So I stand by it, I
00:32:32.380 guess.
00:32:32.600 Why?
00:32:32.880 What's up, Dean?
00:32:34.140 Because of Trump, it
00:32:35.280 doesn't peter out anymore.
00:32:36.480 We're seeing what they're
00:32:37.500 doing.
00:32:37.960 Like you just said,
00:32:38.960 they're resisting arrest
00:32:40.020 in New York.
00:32:40.980 They got Mondani in New
00:32:42.400 York.
00:32:42.620 You go to California
00:32:43.480 to find out how much
00:32:45.340 residual effects have on
00:32:47.020 these things.
00:32:47.480 They peter out in the
00:32:48.340 news, but the left
00:32:49.520 doesn't forget about it.
00:32:50.860 They build up from where
00:32:52.360 that section starts dying
00:32:53.840 and they start again
00:32:55.320 where that left off.
00:32:56.760 It hasn't been petering
00:32:57.840 out for the last 50
00:32:58.840 years.
00:32:59.560 And Trump let us.
00:33:00.420 I mean, Pam, so in the 0.60
00:33:01.660 middle room school, well,
00:33:02.860 it peters out in the
00:33:04.320 news cycle, but they
00:33:05.680 take notice and they pick
00:33:06.740 up where they left off.
00:33:07.740 Is that what you mean?
00:33:09.340 Bingo.
00:33:09.860 Thank you.
00:33:10.340 That's why you're on the
00:33:11.240 show.
00:33:11.520 And I can't say those
00:33:12.540 kind of things as
00:33:13.260 succinct as you did.
00:33:14.520 But that's exactly what I
00:33:15.820 mean.
00:33:16.380 Trump exposed these guys
00:33:18.020 out of everything that
00:33:19.040 Trump's doing.
00:33:19.980 He did the best by
00:33:21.940 exposing what the left is
00:33:23.360 to it.
00:33:23.560 Can you imagine if
00:33:24.420 Hillary would have 1.00
00:33:25.280 won?
00:33:26.480 We would have no idea
00:33:27.480 about any of this.
00:33:28.940 They'd just be creeping
00:33:29.920 underneath everything.
00:33:31.440 Trump lifted up that
00:33:32.400 rock and all those
00:33:33.720 them.
00:33:34.120 They're even afraid of
00:33:35.040 themselves now.
00:33:35.940 You know, it's also I
00:33:37.100 kind of think it's like,
00:33:38.100 you know, when you get
00:33:40.100 a when you get injected
00:33:41.260 with something, you know,
00:33:42.260 like a good a good
00:33:44.080 injection, not the
00:33:45.200 COVID injection, not the
00:33:46.780 bad flu shot, but I
00:33:48.040 don't know, the polio shot
00:33:49.140 or whatever.
00:33:49.720 And you get sick before
00:33:50.900 you get better.
00:33:51.880 I kind of feel like that's
00:33:53.060 happening.
00:33:53.360 Right now, we're
00:33:53.820 pretty sick as a
00:33:55.100 country.
00:33:55.380 We're pretty sick as
00:33:56.120 these things are being
00:33:56.840 exposed, you know, and
00:33:58.940 I think we're going to
00:33:59.580 be better.
00:34:00.100 Ultimately, you're
00:34:00.700 right.
00:34:00.920 Trump has he changed
00:34:02.060 everything and eyes
00:34:03.680 have been open, including
00:34:05.620 and especially mine,
00:34:07.760 including and especially
00:34:08.920 mine.
00:34:09.460 The people I used to
00:34:10.320 trust, the institutions,
00:34:11.700 all that stuff.
00:34:12.800 The New York Times.
00:34:13.840 Forget it.
00:34:14.420 In many ways, I was one
00:34:15.800 of them, Dean.
00:34:16.820 I really I'm just like,
00:34:17.940 oh, why would Hillary 0.98
00:34:18.900 Clinton Hillary Clinton 0.99
00:34:20.040 wouldn't be.
00:34:20.660 No, no, no, no.
00:34:21.700 Hillary Clinton is not a 0.99
00:34:22.820 corrupt.
00:34:23.280 No, no. 0.99
00:34:24.220 I was so naive, you
00:34:27.000 know, but we all were
00:34:28.160 until what was the moment
00:34:29.680 for you when you realized
00:34:30.800 it was all fake?
00:34:32.140 COVID.
00:34:32.980 COVID.
00:34:33.340 COVID.
00:34:34.280 When they're telling me
00:34:35.460 that they're going to
00:34:36.460 close my businesses
00:34:38.240 and they're going to open
00:34:40.120 bars, they're going to 0.68
00:34:41.000 keep bars open, but
00:34:42.100 they're going to close all
00:34:42.760 the small businesses.
00:34:43.600 They're going to close the
00:34:44.380 churches.
00:34:44.740 I'm saying, wait a minute.
00:34:46.880 Something is wrong there.
00:34:48.040 They're going and arresting
00:34:49.380 families off of a beach
00:34:52.100 or in the woods where
00:34:53.300 they're hiking.
00:34:54.040 American citizens.
00:34:55.060 They could do that.
00:34:56.060 The left love that, but
00:34:57.580 they don't like the
00:34:58.180 illegals being locked up.
00:34:59.660 Dean, thank you.
00:35:00.900 And it's beautiful to walk
00:35:01.940 in the truth, isn't it?
00:35:02.960 We'll be right back.
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00:35:09.240 Entertaining and informative.
00:35:11.380 On the Red Apple Podcast
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00:35:22.560 Everybody's happy.
00:35:27.080 Crowds screaming in
00:35:28.180 happiness.
00:35:28.700 Why are they so happy?
00:35:35.340 Why are they so happy?
00:35:37.560 That's the day that O.J.
00:35:38.640 Simpson was found not guilty.
00:35:41.080 I think it was October of
00:35:42.600 1995.
00:35:44.300 I remember where I was.
00:35:46.220 Look, I would show you the
00:35:47.420 white people reaction, but
00:35:48.880 you can't hear anything.
00:35:49.860 They're all standing there
00:35:51.680 stunned.
00:35:52.820 Can't believe what happened. 0.95
00:35:54.660 And black people were 0.98
00:35:56.720 celebrating.
00:35:57.660 Granted, you know, plenty
00:35:59.820 of notable exceptions.
00:36:01.160 We're speaking with a
00:36:01.900 broad brush here, but
00:36:02.860 yeah, generally speaking,
00:36:04.980 white people were 0.70
00:36:06.040 astonished and shocked 0.78
00:36:07.220 and sad, and black 0.86
00:36:08.760 people were, you know,
00:36:11.320 ecstatic.
00:36:12.540 And it kind of, the same
00:36:15.140 event happens and totally
00:36:16.620 different reactions.
00:36:17.760 And it's kind of like what's
00:36:19.220 going on here with this
00:36:21.060 shooting ice and all.
00:36:24.040 Now, although I am hearing
00:36:25.820 from a couple of the
00:36:26.700 conservatives out there
00:36:27.740 who are like, I don't
00:36:28.460 know, there's this kind of
00:36:31.500 wish in conservative
00:36:33.580 circles to, I don't want to
00:36:35.420 call it compliant, but they
00:36:36.400 want recognition.
00:36:37.320 They do want to fit in with
00:36:39.060 the New York Times crowd.
00:36:40.120 They do.
00:36:42.580 There is new video that we
00:36:45.320 have played.
00:36:45.860 And I think it's incredibly
00:36:49.180 important, incredibly
00:36:50.900 relevant.
00:36:53.120 It's the shooting as
00:36:54.840 seen by the ice
00:36:57.820 officer who pulled the
00:36:58.940 trigger.
00:37:00.460 And it ain't on the
00:37:01.760 television yet.
00:37:03.600 I played it five times
00:37:05.480 already.
00:37:06.180 Granted, you can't see it,
00:37:07.320 but we were making
00:37:07.840 arrangements and I, but I
00:37:10.180 can't, we played it.
00:37:11.900 I, why don't I see it on
00:37:14.160 CNN?
00:37:14.700 Why don't I see it on
00:37:15.620 MSNBC?
00:37:17.640 And why don't I see it on
00:37:19.120 Fox?
00:37:19.980 Now, I'm sure I'll see it at
00:37:21.320 the top of the hour, which is
00:37:23.180 fast approaching, right?
00:37:25.000 What do we think?
00:37:26.540 You can never tell with Fox.
00:37:28.740 They're a little squishy over
00:37:30.400 there.
00:37:30.940 They're a little bit weird.
00:37:32.700 It's important.
00:37:33.440 One other thing about this
00:37:34.580 lady in the middle of the 0.98
00:37:37.360 street on a Wednesday
00:37:39.000 morning in January while
00:37:41.640 our kid is in school.
00:37:43.620 Who has the time and who
00:37:45.240 has the money to freak
00:37:47.240 around like that on a
00:37:49.200 workday morning?
00:37:51.300 I mean, remember what was
00:37:53.220 the theme that the
00:37:54.380 Democrats try to push down
00:37:55.580 our throats?
00:37:56.840 Remember that one?
00:37:58.380 I'm fighting for you.
00:38:00.800 Yeah.
00:38:01.620 Got five.
00:38:03.220 I'm fighting for
00:38:04.100 affordability.
00:38:05.060 I'm fighting to get your
00:38:06.200 costs down.
00:38:06.740 We are going to work to
00:38:08.040 lower costs of renting,
00:38:09.540 buying, or staying in your
00:38:11.460 home.
00:38:12.500 We are going to cut red
00:38:13.780 tape and build homes
00:38:14.880 families can actually
00:38:16.420 afford.
00:38:17.380 By speaking directly to the
00:38:18.700 crisis that working people 1.00
00:38:19.800 were facing in this city,
00:38:21.080 which is ultimately a
00:38:21.920 crisis of affordability.
00:38:23.420 Affordability.
00:38:24.120 Nobody can afford
00:38:24.880 anything.
00:38:26.560 These guys have enough
00:38:27.640 money somehow to go out
00:38:29.100 on a workday like that
00:38:30.240 and screw around.
00:38:31.580 They're probably being
00:38:32.600 paid.
00:38:34.580 Thanks for listening to
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00:38:37.360 Roger Stone.
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00:39:05.360 have to wonder.
00:39:06.360 What the heck is going on
00:39:07.880 here?
00:39:08.560 Every week, the Payne
00:39:09.880 family cuts straight to the
00:39:11.280 real financial story.
00:39:12.860 The one question, Bob,
00:39:14.060 everyone's asking is, are we
00:39:16.280 in an artificial intelligence
00:39:17.680 bubble?
00:39:18.560 You've been through boom and
00:39:19.740 busts.
00:39:20.520 What do you think?
00:39:21.300 No hype.
00:39:22.280 No myths.
00:39:23.500 Just what actually matters
00:39:24.840 to your money.
00:39:25.900 Does feel very similar to
00:39:27.880 what we experienced in the
00:39:28.980 90s.
00:39:29.400 Where are we, though?
00:39:30.040 Are we in 1995, 1997, 1999?
00:39:33.760 Listen to the Payne
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