The Stone Zone | 03-06-25
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Summary
A president with deep distrust of DC bureaucracy and the liberal media, a president trying to extract America from a costly war, trying to reinvigorate the nation with new tariffs on foreign competitors sounds like Donald Trump, right? No, but the president I'm describing is Richard M. Milhouse Nixon.
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this is the stone zone with roger stone people love him and respect him roger stone
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now get him his own it's the stone zone here's roger stone
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welcome i'm roger stone and you are entering the stone zone if you're interested in american
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politics this is the place to be a massive presidential political comeback that most
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mainstream pundits thought was impossible a president with deep distrust of dc bureaucrats
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and the liberal media a president trying to extract america from a costly war trying to
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reinvigorate the nation with new tariffs on foreign competitors sounds like donald trump right no but
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the president i'm describing is richard milhouse nixon when in uh nixon took office in 1969 it became
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uh after 1960 lost to jfk by a whisker uh and after he had lost a disastrous 1962 race for governor of
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california nixon uh like trump distrusted dc distrusted the media and wanted to get america out of vietnam
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and on august 15 1971 he slapped a 10 percent tariff on all imported goods whether nixon uh pardon me
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whether trump is conspicuously borrowing from nixon's playbook or not the parallels are all there i see
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them he's hitting canada mexico and china with tariffs pausing uh military aid to ukraine and defying
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the dc and media establishments and like nixon he's trying to end a sticky war trump like nixon sees
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the extreme costs both in ukraine and allowing a massive trade deficit to go unrectified nixon actually
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predicted this war in ukraine as luke nickner wrote recently the historian
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nixon based his foreign policy on the balance of power and believed in the most responsible
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participation by our foreign friends in our own defense few realize that nixon and reagan
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nixon and trump pardon me actually corresponded regularly in the 1980s and early 1990s uh it's
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interesting they met in george steinbrenner's box when they were both invited to yankee stadium on
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opening day the very next day president nixon said to me well i met your man i said well sir what
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did you think i'm telling you that guy if he ever gets into politics he could go all the way uh then
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in december days later uh that was 1987 right after their encounter at yankee stadium nixon uh wrote trump
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a letter saying that pat nixon had seen trump on the phil donahue talk show uh and uh quote as you can
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imagine nixon wrote she's an expert on politics and she predicts whenever you decide to run for office
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you will be the winner and i agree nixon wrote in 1993 on the occasion of president nixon's 80th birthday
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trump told nixon you are a great man and i've had and always will have the utmost respect for you
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and admiration i'm proud to know you in this second administration president trump is finishing the job
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that president nixon didn't have a chance to do in the meantime hunter biden has decided to
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ask a judge to toss his own laptop lawsuit claiming he's millions in debt hunter biden has asked a judge
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should dismiss his own lawsuit against garrett ziggler uh the head of marco polo usa a uh non-profit
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that is committed to uh publishing it with the annotated version of hunter biden's laptop garrett
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ziggler is the hard charging nephew of nixon white house press secretary ron ziggler uh and he worked in
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the trump white house he published the entire volume which you can get by going to marco polo usa.org
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court filings now show that joe biden is out of the white house no one is buying hunter's extraordinarily
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expensive paintings i'm glad to see this lawsuit has been uh has been dismissed or pardon me withdrawn
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because hunter biden's lawyers were trying to subpoena up me to find out what i knew about the
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laptop when everything i knew about the laptop i read it either in the new york post or the terrific
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reporting of miranda divine or breitbart news it is uh incredible that they would harass me with a subpoena
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about which i know nothing court filings showed that the two or three years prior to december
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2023 hunter biden sold 27 pieces of art at an average price of 54 000 but since then he has only
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sold one piece of art biden complained in his filing hunter has suffered a significant downturn in his
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income and his significant debt in the millions of dollars range his attorneys lawyer lawyers argued
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claiming that his financial troubles were exacerbated by the prolific pacific palisades wildfires in
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january like many others in that situation i've had difficulty finding a new permanent place to live
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biden claimed well one of the 51 intelligence uh officers current and former who co-signed the letter
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insisting that hunter biden's laptop was most likely russian disinformation when they knew of course
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that it wasn't it was completely real authentic and genuine polls showed that 17 percent of voters
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would have swung from biden to trump had they known that it was a lie then it was a lie now folks last
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week it was february 20th 2025 upi helpfully noted that it was four years ago that day that i was
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sentenced to 40 months in prison based on my conviction in the soviet style show trial that i
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was subjected to in washington dc in 2020 complete with a rigged jury a corrupt jury for a woman and a
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hateful anti-trump judge needless to say upi neglected to mention that president donald trump
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not only commuted my sentence but on december 23rd 2020 issued me a full and unconditional
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presidential pardon but don't look for that fact on the internet folks it's buried most strikingly upi
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i failed to note that after my trial a lawsuit brought by the liberal outfit buzzfeed of all
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people against the department of justice forced the department to finally release the long hidden long
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redacted final report of special counsel robert muller the entire section of his report on roger
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stone had been redacted when released and never given to me either by the court
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but once we saw the full report we can see that even muller could not sugarcoat the fact that he
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found no evidence of russian collusion wikileaks collaboration or any other crime in fact muller's
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final full report says that there was quote no factual basis to prosecute me for russian collusion uh
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collaboration with wikileaks uh and even though they admitted they had found no evidence thereof they
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also said had they found such evidence they had concluded that it would not have been a crime but
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would have been first amendment protected political activity i was indicted on these
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clever and convoluted process charges in order to pressure me to testify falsely against president
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donald trump which i of course refused to do judge amy berman jackson who presided over my trial uh
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withheld this exculpatory evidence at the trial we specifically asked the judge for muller's unredacted
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report and she she said she would read it in her chambers and give us the portions that were relevant to
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our defense and our trial needless to say she didn't give us the part that the department of
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justice released and they released it on november 3rd 2020 why wait a minute that's election day the
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busiest media day of the year if you don't want something to get any media coverage that's the time to drop
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it mother's dirty cops concluded the report that i had done nothing wrong so they cooked up these uh
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these charges of lying under oath in my voluntary testimony to the congress when in fact i did make
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misstatements but none of them were were relevant or material they hid no underlying crime because there
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was no crime dead eyed the whole thing was a hoax i was convicted of lying to congress uh when i
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had no motive to lie but one thing about the left you see it right now doesn't matter how discredited
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debunked or disproved any of their crazy left-wing conspiracy theories like the russian collusion
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hoax are wait a few weeks and they'll be back to recycle it you see them doing it right now with
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donald trump oh he's controlled by putin no he's trying to end a expensive and pointless war
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and he's committed to do it he ran as the candidate of peace and he is a deal maker but it takes two to
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tango i'm convinced donald trump can get putin to the table no putin doesn't control him nobody
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controls donald trump now if he can get zelinski to the table uh and the europeans to agree to that
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he can get us peace now if he gets us peace will he get the nobel peace prize uh they gave it to
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barack obama when he did nothing to earn it that i could see i think he dropped more bombs and uh
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probably uh caused more havoc uh on the world stage in terms of military than any recent president but
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they gave him a nobel peace prize will get they give donald trump the nobel peace prize
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i think if he pulls this off he more than deserves it watching him the other night i could not help but
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marvel at the greatest single comeback in american political history and i'm convinced that we're going
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to a golden age an unprecedented age of peace prosperity security justice and law and order
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keep your your seats buckled you're in the stone zone and we'll be back with more political analysis
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and eduardo bolsonaro the son of former brazil president bolsonaro who they're trying to lock up
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i'm not just stepping stone this is the stone zone get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone
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and we're back on president trump gave his first address to congress after being re-elected to his second
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term and well the democrat theatrics were all too predictable i thought it was one of trump's greatest
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speeches i told him so in a text and he responded by saying it felt pretty good up there democrats
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held up signs with trite cliches like this is not normal musk steals uh and false throughout trump's
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speech it was very childish then congressman al green no not the singer the the ponytailed congressman
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from texas a far-left lawmaker caused a scene and had to be ushered out of the chamber as he swung
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his cane like a 2 a.m homeless why now outside a houston liquor store uh now congressman green says that
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he is drafting his new articles of impeachment but congressman green introduced his first articles
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impeachment against donald trump the day after he was sworn in in 2017 so i would say this is al green's
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greatest hit rather than showing their moral high ground the democrats just came off like immature
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sore losers who uh wouldn't even applaud when they were shown a 13 year old boy who is dying of cancer
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or has has has fought cancer i should say a poll conducted after the sheet speech showed only 20 percent
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of respondents thought representative green uh was uh uh out of line uh pardon me 80 said he was not
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that he was out of line uh whereas only 26 said that he wasn't meanwhile a survey conducted by cbs news
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showed that 76 uh percent of those uh who were watching thought they approved of the president's
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address 60 percent of respondents said they believe trump spends a lot of time speaking on issues that
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matter to the american people 68 in that same poll said trump's words left them feeling hopeful
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the public response shows that trump's agenda now has the mandate to uh i would say put the support of
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the american people fully behind it and trump has risen above all the divisiveness promoted by his
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enemies in the fake news media and their allies in the democratic party not to mention the permanent
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government establishment trump has become normalized while the democrats are going in the opposite
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direction the democrats are too deep in with the woke left the old democrat party the party of john f
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kennedy the party of harry truman the party that supported capitalism and free enterprise uh and religion
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uh sure they wanted to spend a bit more and tax a bit more but they still believed in democracy that
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democrat party no longer exists it has been hijacked by a marxist woke left and they're going to have a
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hard time regaming the middle ground see under donald trump he hijacked the republican party so it is
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no longer the party of the country clubs no longer the party of the uh wall street elite no longer the
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party of big money and the corporate interests under donald trump the republican party has returned to
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being the party of blue collar working class americans it has returned to being the party of the family
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returned to be the party of the middle class and it has returned to be the party of common sense
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notice that three theme throughout the president's entire speech common sense that's because common
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sense democrats like robert f kennedy jr uh and tulsi gabbard and governor rod blagojevich uh have
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joined the uh the america first crusade of president donald trump it's a realignment folks stop thinking
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in terms of republicans and democrats think in terms of insiders and outsiders thinking different in the
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terms of the difference between globalists and those who are nationalists in that they believe in america
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and their party in a moment we're going to talk to jerry bolsonaro uh he is a member of the uh parliament
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uh he's actually a member of the chamber of deputies in his uh uh his home country of brazil his father
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is a former president who has been subjected to the same kind of lawfare that donald trump was subjected
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to uh and now there are reports uh that they are seeking to revoke his father's uh ability to travel and
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may be on the verge of arresting him we'll be right back with jared bolsonaro you are here in the stone
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this is the stone zone with roger stone not just stepping to stone the stone zone
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this is the stone zone with roger stone they went after a guy named roger stone who's sitting in the
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office and i'll say this in front of roger he's no baby and right now he's cleaner than anybody in this
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place now as they treated him very unfairly now get him a zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone
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the left-wing supreme court of brazil uh is attempting to seize the passport of jair bolsonaro who is a
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elected member of the chamber of deputies has been since 2015. uh he's affiliated with the social
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liberal party uh in 2018 he was re-elected to a second term as a federal deputy uh having received
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the most votes of any lawmaker in brazilian history but the left-wing supreme court uh is seeking to
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lift his passport uh alleging that he is guilty of committing crimes against sovereignty specifically
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criticizing the left-wing supreme court to put this uh in some perspective you need to understand that
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eduardo bolsonaro's father jared bolsonaro lost the brazilian presidential election in 2022
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in the first round which was october 2nd 2022 he received 53.20 of the vote while
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luis ignacio lula da silva received 48.43 silva however had been convicted for corruption and was not eligible
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to run for president except for the same left-wing politicized supreme court now trying to lift
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the passport of eduardo bolsonaro uh ruled that lula could run again in an election that was marked with
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widespread fraud uh lula defeated bolsonaro in the second round uh 49.10 percent to bolsonaro to 50.90
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percent for lula does this sound familiar does this sound like what happened in the united states in 2020
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anyway joining us now to talk about what has happened and where we go from here is eduardo bolsonaro
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son of the former president but a distinguished statesman in his own right serving in the chamber of
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deputies since 2015. eduardo welcome to the stone zone thank you very much roger uh i'm very happy to
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be at the stone roger stone show and uh i'm open for all kind of questions i have no doubt that we have
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the truth on our side and we are talking from now that is familiar with the law fair uh just the fact
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that the supreme court ruled that lula who had been convicted of very serious uh corruption and therefore
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was ineligible to run that they would change the law to make him eligible to run that is in itself
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an outrage but the election itself uh was marked by a number of uh of anomalies and irregularities
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for example there was incredible vulnerability in the electronic voting machines uh the media the
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open-minded media reported that brazil brazil's electronic voting machines that were susceptible
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to tampering and full uh uh ac uh pardon me adequate security measures were never put in place uh there were
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also uh other uh irregularities regarding of printed votes uh many many problems talk to us about the
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about the flaws in the in the 2020 election or the 2022 election pardon me yeah it's uh the method
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is different our our but the fraud is pretty clear to everybody it's just pretty much what happened
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you are the united states in the in the previous election 2020 when uh you had all of those mailing votes
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and id problems in united states people that were dead not voting and all of that in brazil what
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happened is the system that we use to vote is fully electronic so in brazil you go to a place you dial
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the number of your candidate in a machine then you play for god that in brazilia in the capital brazil the
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electoral courts the superior electoral court they are going to count that properly but the fact is
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before the election the congress we tried to approve the printed vote the printed vote bill which means
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that we should have a way to recount or in case of suspicions to do a proper audit to see if the
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electronic votes match with the paper votes i i don't think this is a threat for democracy but anyway
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the president of the electoral court which is also a justice of the supreme court his name is luis roberto
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barroso in 2021 he did go to the congress and talked with 11 presidents of political parties and
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changed their minds so a bill that was going easily to be approved then was disapproved this is only one
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chapter of the of the fight that we have to bring more transparency and integrity to our election but to
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finish this answer i only would like to highlight the united states as the number one country in the
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world when you talk about democracy and freedom you should not recognize elections where you do not
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have a proper way to recount the votes or a proper audit you know or at least let the opposition to run
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because my father cannot run run for the elections until 2030 we have a hope to overturn that in the
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electoral court but look for venezuela maria curina machado is the same thing you know the electoral
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court of venezuela didn't allow her to run and this is not a democracy for sure yeah there they have no
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paper trail which was opposed uh there was substantial evidence uh that the electronic voting machines
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were hacked uh the the geographic uh uh pattern was very interesting they they loaded up a giant lead in
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the uh in the province where the capital is uh but in the other areas of the state bolsonaro won as i recall
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yeah yeah and if you if you look roger even nowadays if you go to social media jerry bolsonaro my father
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he's not present anymore and uh he cannot run until 2030 for two reasons first because he met 40
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ambassadors and during a press conference he criticized our electoral process which is a thing that he's
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doing for the last i don't know 15 years even when he was congressman and the second reason that my
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father cannot run is because after the military parade of our independence day in 2022 after that
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he crossed the street he went to a square and did a speech for almost one million people that were
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waiting the president bolsonaro to do that and the electoral court they considered this fact as abuse of
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a political power so it's not about corrupt we we we are not in the same occasion of lula da silva
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lula was convicted because laundering money and corruption and he he had a first trial a second
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trial a third trial and then when the case went to the supreme court where the most part of the 11
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justices of the supreme court in brazil were appointed by lula da silva and his colleague from the the
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former president jim josef because both are from the semi-party when he case went to the supreme court the
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supreme court said well you know lula didn't he wasn't sued in the right city he should be sued in
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other cities so we need to come back from the ground all of the all of the case of lula da silva so
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it's not that he's innocent but his process got back again from the ground so he had a chance to run in the
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2022 election it was it was a trick inside of the supreme court but bolsonaro if you look at him
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on social media even nowadays that again he's not a president he cannot run for president but
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everywhere he goes every street every baker every restaurant beaches doesn't matter he goes and appear
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he shows up surprisingly and everybody wants to take picture of him and he's leading the pool roger
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he's leading the pools that's why the the establishment of brazil is really hard working to avoid him to run
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on the next year election because the brazilian establishment learned with the united states
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establishment that they cannot give the opportunity for the the one who is leading the pools to run for
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president because if it happens maybe we are going to be back in brazil with the trump of the tropics jay
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bolsonaro so here's my first question for you it really is how uh how how intensive uh is the
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censorship in the country in other words one of our horrific problems in 2020 was the absolute tsunami of of
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censorship uh and the cancellation of anyone who was a supporter of donald trump anyone who questioned
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hunter biden's laptop or the russian collusion hoax or or or or the facts regarding uh the covid
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19 pandemic how extensive is is uh censorship today in brazil it's very very sensitive all the problems
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that you had in the united states we had in brazil uh when talking about the pandemics so words like
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vaccine or hydroxychloroquine invermectin or all of these it was forbidden in brazil all the social
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media youtube facebook instagram all of that they shut you down they block your profile they they they do
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whatever to censor you but the main problem that we had in brazil come after that because the
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censorship became something normal so in 2022 elections our electoral court was uh chaired
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by the supreme court justice alexandre jimoraes is the one who is fighting against dylan musk
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alexandre jimoraes he was the president of the electoral court and he gave to him very special and unique
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powers to do whatever he wants in the social media doesn't matter what says the attorney general or any
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other authority in brazil so what we had in brazil we now know that about 100 right-wing profiles were
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were shut down at that time during the electoral uh period of 2022 and we only know that because elon
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musk bought twitter right during the brazilian elections of 2022 and when elon started to fight against
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uh yeah against alexandre jimoraes the chairman of the justice committee representative jim jordan he
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asked elon to bring to the to his committee all of the emails that that twitter changed with the electoral
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court in the supreme court of brazil in 2022 and then they made a report of more than 400 pages showing
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how was this communication and in this report you can see alexandre jimoraes sending emails to twitter
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with orders to shut down a lot of users a lot of right-wing users in twitter and do not let them know
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that this order was coming from a justice of the supreme court so in fact in brazil we had uh our
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tucker carlson was shut down we had uh fox news shut down you know our 01 it was really unfair despite
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you believe or not in our machines in our voting system so so let me let me stop you there uh this
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kind of censorship of course is a major factor when you have a a stolen election as i believe
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they did uh in brazil we've been talking to eduardo bolsonaro the son of former president jair bolsonaro
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when i get back i want to ask him uh about his his father and he's currently prohibited from leaving
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the country they have seized his passport i want to talk to him about that when we return uh you're
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listening to the stone zone on the red apple audio networks uh and if you love politics well you're in the
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right place we'll be right back with more of jair bolsonaro this is the stone zone with roger stone
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this is the stone zone now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone
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we're back you're entered the stone zone earlier we're talking politics my guest is eduardo
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bolsonaro he is uh the son of former president uh jair bolsonaro a great favorite of president
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donald trump's a free proto pro freedom pro capitalism pro liberty uh conservative who was uh was changing
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brazil into a much more uh economically strong uh and freer society when essentially the last election was
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was uh was uh hijacked by a left-wing supreme court now they are seeking to strip uh eduardo bolsonaro of his
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passport so that he cannot travel what is your father's status eduardo in terms of uh the restrictions on him
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so he cannot he cannot get outside of the country he doesn't have his passport and uh this is really very
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unique in the brazilian judicial history he was was indicted a couple of weeks ago as uh with with
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the accusation of attempt coup d'etat you know in a moment that he was in disneyland it was in january 8th of
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2023 it was a pretty much uh thing that you had in the united states with your january 6th
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so uh this is this is how he cannot attend events like sipec or come to trump's inauguration
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president trump invited him to come to brazil he tried to come he tried to get back his passport
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but this crazy justice of the supreme court alexander de morais didn't let
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wow that is uh that is extraordinary uh well i hope what are the chances are that the law will be
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challenged so that he can run before 2030 because i don't think given the downward spiral on the
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authoritarian actor uh government of lula uh where in every by every measure their their their country
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is failing what are the chances that the election date will be changed we we the judges of the electoral
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court they change time after time so alexander de morais is not the president of the electoral court
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anymore we are going to have uh on the on the end of this year a new uh new judges on our electoral
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court so this will be the right time to ask for a a fair judgment so maybe we have a chance to overturn
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all of that but the problem is uh alexander morais and his friends in the supreme court they are speeding
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up the process against jerry bolsonaro they really want to jail him before the elections because if they do
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that uh for sure bolsonaro by the brazilian law he cannot run for president doesn't matter he's
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nowadays leading all of the major pools of brazil so this is this is the scenario and i really believe
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as in the 2022 elections we had a partnership of our electoral court with usaid ned and atlantic council
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and they had contracts with millions and millions of dollars dollars of the american taxpayer i guess now
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that elon uh blocked now he froze these assets to come into brazil now i guess it's time to do a
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second step to fix that all that's why i'm claiming united states all the americans to support elections
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in latin america where only recognize places where you have free and fair elections where the opposition
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can run and not this fake democracy just like you have in venezuela and now the brazilian establishment
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is copying the same system avoiding the main leaders of the opposition to run for president
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if it happens it will be china will dominate brazil all right i'm afraid we have to leave it there my
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good friend uh thank you roger eduardo bolosaro uh joined us bolosano bolosano i'm sorry pardon me
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bolosano i'm trying to make you italian what can i say all right uh i want to thank you so much for
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joining us today uh in the stone zone in the meantime tulsi gabbard visited the southern border
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i have to say that she attended with vice president vice president vance she continues to impress me as she did
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uh recently in munich uh she is uh mostly a talented political communicator i've seen and i predict to
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you on this show please mark it down and remember i said it she will be the first woman president not
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necessarily uh in 2028 but i have every confidence that she will be the first woman president and of course
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she is now a republican thank you for joining us today in the stone zone i'm roger stone until
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tomorrow remember this is the place for news we eat sleep and breathe political news if you cut me
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