The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - The Stone Zone ｜ 04-14-25

00:00:00.000 It's the Stone Zone. Here's Roger Stone.

00:00:04.060 Welcome. You are in the Stone Zone. Here we tell the stone-cold truth.

00:00:09.780 So, while China attempts to wait out American terrorists, co-opting the panic on Wall Street, 0.84

00:00:16.140 President Donald Trump and his team of economic advisors are employing the classic techniques

00:00:21.480 found in the president's bestseller, The Art of the Deal.

00:00:25.440 When markets closed, President Trump took a Saturday to announce a wave of exemptions

00:00:31.880 to the recent 90-day pause on reciprocal tariffs.

00:00:36.780 Yes, a series of specific sector exemptions to a 90-day pause amid negotiations.

00:00:43.360 This included semiconductor, chip parts, and other electronics.

00:00:47.400 This affected companies like Apple in Nevada.

00:00:50.680 Apple was up nearly 30% shortly after the market closed.

00:00:55.920 And Nevada was up almost 0.15%.

00:00:59.200 Now, many commentators speculated that China had won.

00:01:03.120 But wait! Not so fast.

00:01:05.620 The following morning, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick went on ABC with left-wing journalist

00:01:11.560 John Carl to say that those exemptions issued over the Jewish Passover holiday would only

00:01:17.760 last 30 days when then new semiconductor and pharmaceutical tariffs would kick into place.

00:01:26.000 President Trump has long said it was a national security interest to have our medicines, like

00:01:32.100 antibiotics, for example, made here in America.

00:01:35.200 Well, if Lutnick was sent to reassure the markets, he did just the opposite.

00:01:40.960 Twitter, now known as X, and businesses are embroiled with a rage at the Commerce Secretary,

00:01:49.860 seems that every media appearance by the former hedge fund manager tanks the market.

00:01:55.020 Or maybe Lutnick was sent out to play bad cop in a good cop versus bad cop routine.

00:02:03.620 Has Trump pulled the world's greatest media into The Apprentice show to date?

00:02:09.080 Well, we'll have to wait and see.

00:02:10.560 The Federal Reserve Chairman, Jerome Powell, who has turned into a political animal, refusing

00:02:15.560 to lower interest rates under Trump, like he did in his half-hearted attempt to help Biden's

00:02:22.040 failing campaign for re-election, is set to speak this week.

00:02:26.360 This week promises more volatility, which is leverage for the president and action for swing

00:02:32.980 traders.

00:02:33.980 But maybe we're all being distracted by the theatrics of Lutnick, China, and the markets.

00:02:39.460 Last week, Fox News and the New York Post reported that President Trump had tapped

00:02:45.200 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, the man who went to economic war with both Britain and China

00:02:51.720 earlier in his career, and beat both of them, I should say, to lead the effort in gaining

00:02:59.000 leverage to create a new America-first economy.

00:03:02.840 Besson impresses me he could be the greatest Secretary of the Treasury since Alexander Hamilton.

00:03:08.340 Besson looks poised to help Main Street by rebalancing the dollar, equities, and bonds.

00:03:14.860 He is a calming and reassuring voice for the markets.

00:03:19.460 Only Trump, Besson, and Lutnick know what the plan is, but the good cop, bad cop scenario

00:03:26.040 seems to be working.

00:03:27.020 They've made a promise to Main Street, and they've received a mandate from the American

00:03:31.840 people to do so.

00:03:33.540 Coming up is the golden age, an age of unprecedented peace, prosperity, security, and justice.

00:03:40.440 All you have to do is stay the course.

00:03:43.520 Don't be, as President Trump says, a panic-in.

00:03:46.840 Today, the market was up between three and four points, far more stable than anticipated.

00:03:52.660 It appears to me like President Trump's gambit is working.

00:03:58.140 Remember the Russian collusion hoax?

00:04:00.920 That was a three-year fraud upon the American people. 0.70

00:04:05.400 We know that the entire plot was born in an Oval Office meeting with President Barack Obama,

00:04:13.180 Vice President Joe Biden, National Security Advisor Susan Rice, FBI Director James Comey,

00:04:21.260 and CIA Director John Brennan.

00:04:25.180 This was the greatest single abuse of power in American history, the greatest single dirty

00:04:32.560 trick.

00:04:32.960 It was nothing less than an abuse of power in which the full authority of the United States

00:04:38.260 government and the extraordinary capabilities of our intelligence agencies were used, utilizing

00:04:44.880 two pieces of what they knew were fraudulent evidence, the so-called Steele dossier, which

00:04:52.180 was originated and paid for by Hillary Clinton, but had no basis in fact.

00:04:57.460 That was the false claim that businessman Donald Trump had dallied with Russian prostitutes while

00:05:04.080 visiting Moscow on a business trip and had actually watched them urinate on a bed that was once 0.82

00:05:11.500 inhabited by President Barack Obama, complete and total fiction.

00:05:15.940 And then the secondary claim that the Democrat National Committee had been subjected to an online

00:05:22.280 hack by Russian intelligence.

00:05:25.260 Another claim, for which there is not only no proof, but CrowdStrikes, the company that

00:05:32.020 was hired by the DNC to investigate, claimed publicly that their report showed Russian hacking

00:05:39.360 when the head of CrowdStrikes, Sean Henry, who just happened to be a former deputy to Robert

00:05:47.240 Mueller, the head of the witch hunt, testified before the House Intelligence Committee that he

00:05:52.420 had no such evidence.

00:05:55.420 Well, now the FBI has released 700 pages of the declassified documents related to this whole hoax,

00:06:03.180 the so-called Crossfire Hurricane investigation, which focused on the alleged ties between Russia

00:06:10.340 and the Trump campaign in 2016.

00:06:12.100 These documents, also referred to as the Russiagate binder, consist of seven separate files,

00:06:20.060 totally over 700 pages.

00:06:23.480 The release was facilitated by FBI Director Kash Patel and made available to the public through

00:06:28.640 various outlets, including Just the News, The Federalist, and right here on the Red Apple

00:06:34.340 Audio Networks.

00:06:36.320 These are the Crossfire Hurricane records that Joe Biden, the deep state, and a number of so-called

00:06:43.900 journalists spent years trying to keep hidden from the American people.

00:06:48.240 This is what the raid on Mar-a-Lago by the FBI was really all about.

00:06:54.620 They wanted to get these papers, which under the Presidential Records Act, Donald Trump had

00:06:59.600 every right to hold on to.

00:07:01.920 They wanted them back because they show epic criminality by Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and

00:07:08.300 his entire cabal.

00:07:10.140 These documents also show a key FBI informant in the widely depunked Russian collusion case

00:07:18.400 was paid nearly $1.2 million of your tax money over three decades that he was motivated

00:07:27.000 by monetary compensation and continued making up lies even after agents concluded that he had

00:07:34.360 been spinning a completely inaccurate story about General Michael Flynn, who would later serve as

00:07:42.240 President Trump's first national security advisor.

00:07:45.440 Stephen Halper, who actually had once played poker with in a floating poker game in Washington, D.C.,

00:07:51.780 was a consultant to the Pentagon and an academic who was extremely well paid to, along with British

00:08:00.540 intelligence agent Christopher Steele, and it was used by the FBI agents to build the fraudulent

00:08:06.720 crossfire hurricane case against Trump and his advisors.

00:08:11.060 That includes General Flynn, Paul Manafort, and, well, yes, yours truly.

00:08:16.620 This happened during the end of the 2016 campaign, and it continued for three and a half years,

00:08:27.060 hobbling the Trump administration in some regards.

00:08:31.240 This new memo that has been declassified confirmed that Halper was the source of one of the most

00:08:36.380 sensational, bogus claims to land in the FBI's probe in the summer of 2016.

00:08:42.360 That was that Flynn, who is a happily married man, left a 2014 foreign policy meeting alone

00:08:49.260 with great-looking Russian scholar Svetlana Lokhava when he was a three-star general at that time

00:08:56.840 leading the Defense Intelligence Agency.

00:09:00.540 It was a lie.

00:09:02.080 FBI agents ultimately deemed that Halper's account was not plausible and not accurate,

00:09:07.780 but the FBI proceeded to investigate Flynn, continued to pay Halper, and continued to vouch for his veracity

00:09:16.180 as a confidential human source, codenamed Mitch.

00:09:22.340 This is what the new declassified documents show.

00:09:25.600 You notice how there's very little coverage of any of this in the mainstream media.

00:09:31.180 I looked at the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal.

00:09:34.740 There's nary a word about these bombshell revelations.

00:09:39.520 So, for example, in March of 2017, there's a memo that shows the FBI's validation management unit

00:09:46.360 wrote that it assesses it is likely that Halper is suitable for continued operations

00:09:53.740 based on his authenticity, reliability, and control.

00:09:58.400 That memo makes no mention of its unredacted portions of the concerns about the account

00:10:04.680 that Halper gave smearing Flynn and this woman, Lokhava,

00:10:09.400 which were confirmed in a memo from William Barnett, the FBI agent who handled the retired Flynn's case in 2016 and 2017.

00:10:19.560 These new FBI records also show that Halper was paid $70,000 by the FBI

00:10:26.200 between August 2016 and the start of February 2016,

00:10:30.580 a time period spanning his activation as an informant targeting the Trump campaign

00:10:36.640 and then the 2016 election and Trump's inauguration.

00:10:39.580 The FBI records also showed that the Bureau had paid Stephen Halper, the informant,

00:10:45.860 $1,181,064 from 1991 into early 2017.

00:10:55.180 The classified documents also show that the FBI played British intelligence agent,

00:11:00.540 former agent, Christopher Steele, $75,000 for the dirt on Donald Trump.

00:11:05.400 They offered him a million-dollar bonus if he could prove that any of it was true.

00:11:11.100 But he never collected the bonus because all of it was a lie.

00:11:15.540 Steele openly admitted that Trump was his main opponent during his period in Britain.

00:11:22.240 So the simple question is, will anybody be held accountable?

00:11:27.380 Well, it's true that Barack Obama, under the recent decision by the U.S. Supreme Court,

00:11:32.680 probably has presidential immunity.

00:11:35.400 But what about Vice President Joe Biden?

00:11:38.720 Biden suggested that General Flynn be charged with violation of the Logan Act,

00:11:44.580 even though Barack Obama's national security advisor spoke to the Russian ambassador

00:11:50.620 prior to his being sworn in, and it was proven that Flynn didn't lie.

00:11:56.100 In other words, the claim that General Michael Flynn,

00:11:59.300 before he was confirmed as a national security advisor,

00:12:02.380 assured the Russians that Trump would go easy on sanctions,

00:12:06.620 that is a complete falsehood.

00:12:09.700 In fact, the three FBI agents who actually interviewed Flynn,

00:12:14.600 who sadly spoke to them without a lawyer present,

00:12:18.240 found that nothing Flynn had said was false.

00:12:22.020 Yet they sought to destroy this great American patriot.

00:12:25.900 In the 50 years I've been in American politics,

00:12:29.280 I have not met not only a greater geopolitical thinker,

00:12:34.120 but a finer Christian gentleman and a truly loyal friend than General Michael Flynn.

00:12:41.880 And I still believe that his greatest public service lies ahead.

00:12:49.260 A little bit later on here in the Stone Zone,

00:12:51.660 we're going to interview George Papadopoulos.

00:12:53.900 He was one of the other victims of the Russian collusion hoax.

00:12:57.680 They tried to destroy him the same way they tried to destroy me,

00:13:01.340 but it was all a lie.

00:13:04.340 On the other hand, I also grow impatient.

00:13:07.520 I love Kash Patel and Pam Bondi, the FBI director,

00:13:11.440 and our current attorney general.

00:13:13.440 But it's time for somebody to be charged,

00:13:16.560 for somebody to be held accountable.

00:13:19.720 After what my family and I went through,

00:13:22.520 I'm very anxious to see the rebalancing of the scales of justice,

00:13:26.820 so that we have one system, not two,

00:13:29.780 so that there's not a two-tiered system of justice in the country.

00:13:34.200 And those who perpetrated the greatest single dirty trick in American history,

00:13:39.600 the Russian collusion hoax, are finally held accountable.

00:13:43.900 Somebody needs to have their home raided by the FBI at 6 o'clock in the morning

00:13:48.680 with 29 heavily armed FBI agents.

00:13:52.140 Somebody needs to be held accountable and sent to prison.

00:13:55.820 When we get back, a little more,

00:13:57.660 and then we'll talk to George Papadopoulos about his experience

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00:16:03.840 well, why can't we do that?

00:16:05.860 How about having the election all on one day?

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00:16:15.120 The most recent election in Orange County, California, more people voted than are registered to vote.

00:16:24.060 Now, until we have clean elections, paper ballots, elections on one day,

00:16:29.920 and frankly do away with mail-in ballots, which is the greatest single threat to our honest elections,

00:16:36.820 an open invitation for fraud, well, then we cannot have a true democracy and the American people cannot have their voice.

00:16:44.500 When we come back, George Papadopoulos, former foreign policy advisor, both to President Donald Trump and to Dr. Ben Carson,

00:16:51.580 he was also victimized in the Russian collusion hoax.

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00:17:29.680 Here's Roger Stone.

00:17:34.120 And you're back in the Stone Zone.

00:17:36.660 Joining me now, George Papadopoulos.

00:17:39.020 He is a former foreign policy advisor to both Donald Trump and Dr. Ben Carson.

00:17:44.460 From 2011 to 2015, he worked as a research associate with the Hudson Institute,

00:17:49.700 as well as director of the London Center for International Law Practice.

00:17:53.960 He is currently a contributor at Newsmax and a best-selling author of the book Deep State Target,

00:18:01.120 how I got caught in the crosshairs of the plot to take down President Donald Trump.

00:18:06.720 He was also one of the principal victims of the Russian collusion hoax

00:18:11.080 and the Mueller Inquisition.

00:18:13.700 George Papadopoulos, welcome into the Stone Zone.

00:18:17.340 It's great to be with you, Roger.

00:18:18.940 Thanks for having me.

00:18:19.680 I think it's really timely, George, to have you on.

00:18:23.460 I just saw you and your beautiful Italian wife, Simona, this past weekend

00:18:28.620 at a great Lincoln-Reagan-Trump dinner in Collier County, Florida.

00:18:35.600 It was a great evening, and you gave a great speech.

00:18:38.960 As you know, the FBI has released 700 pages of declassified documents related to Crossfire Hurricane.

00:18:45.640 That's the counterintelligence effort that was focused on the alleged but nonexistent ties

00:18:52.080 between Russia and the Trump campaign back in 2016.

00:18:56.240 Now, these documents were first declassified at the end of the first Trump term,

00:19:01.500 but they never saw the light of day because the bureaucrats in the NSA

00:19:05.280 essentially decided to wait Donald Trump out.

00:19:08.400 They disobeyed a direct executive order of the president,

00:19:12.260 but now we finally have them, and they're relatively shocking.

00:19:16.680 We just found out that the FBI paid Stephen Halper,

00:19:22.180 an associate of former President George H.W. Bush,

00:19:26.900 and a political consultant and academic,

00:19:29.880 well, they paid him $1.2 million as an informant.

00:19:34.400 The only problem was the information he was providing all appears to be false.

00:19:39.060 Your reaction?

00:19:39.700 Yes, yes, it was great to see you, Roger.

00:19:43.480 It was an incredible event in Collier County.

00:19:45.760 Florida's doing wonderful things here with the Republican Party.

00:19:48.540 And look, regarding this recent declassified,

00:19:53.300 I should say the release of the declassified information,

00:19:56.340 but you're absolutely right.

00:19:57.760 President Trump attempted to get this information out

00:20:00.940 to the American public before the 2020 election,

00:20:04.120 but of course the bureaucrats and those who basically were subverting his administration

00:20:11.060 and his policies and his movement from within

00:20:13.940 prevented those files from coming out,

00:20:17.020 while simultaneously, of course,

00:20:18.860 you had 51 intelligence officers colluding with both big tech

00:20:23.080 and the media to suppress the infamous Hunter laptop story

00:20:27.320 that swayed the last election.

00:20:28.760 So now that we finally have some light that is shined upon these files,

00:20:36.700 it's actually a lot worse than I really thought.

00:20:39.280 There aren't too many people that can now actually look at the facts

00:20:44.240 with the declassified information

00:20:46.080 and think that President Trump and his 2016 campaign

00:20:50.080 and his first administration were guilty of anything

00:20:52.780 except being victims of an overzealous Democrat prosecutorial base

00:20:59.780 and a weaponized government that attempted to basically overthrow his administration

00:21:05.720 with falsehoods and fake information.

00:21:08.760 So the situation that you referenced with Stefan Halper

00:21:12.900 is extremely damaging to both the FBI and the Obama administration

00:21:18.700 and actually the Uniparty, because this is a person that you rightfully just explained,

00:21:23.860 was an associate of a Republican administrations.

00:21:27.280 He was a professor at Cambridge University,

00:21:29.920 but then he was moonlighting as an informant

00:21:32.580 that attempted to ingratiate himself within the Trump campaign.

00:21:36.180 Now, that is all good, potentially,

00:21:38.680 if there was some criminal activity being conducted

00:21:40.940 by people associated to the Trump administration, the Trump campaign,

00:21:45.020 but that wasn't the case, Roger.

00:21:46.260 What Halper was doing was he was being paid to basically throw dirt and lies

00:21:51.940 on associates of President Trump and himself

00:21:54.960 in order to allow the FBI to continue this fake investigation.

00:21:59.260 It stinks to high heaven, Roger, and it's time for accountability.

00:22:03.260 Yeah, it's quite extraordinary to me that Andrew Weissman,

00:22:07.540 who was the de facto head of the Mueller Inquisition,

00:22:10.740 because Mueller, as we now know, seemed to me to be around the bend,

00:22:14.260 he knew all the way back to his time as the general counsel to the FBI

00:22:18.820 that the so-called Steele dossier was a fraud.

00:22:21.460 He knew who paid for it.

00:22:22.720 He knew it had been paid for by Hillary Clinton,

00:22:24.940 and he knew it wasn't true, yet he still used it,

00:22:28.760 combined with that false claim that the Russians

00:22:31.760 had conducted an online hack of the Democrat National Committee.

00:22:36.040 When my lawyers at trial, my trial, made it clear that the FBI had never inspected

00:22:43.800 the computer servers of the DNC, a federal prosecutor, Jonathan Kravis,

00:22:50.560 who says his name Kravis, but his name is Kravis,

00:22:53.540 filed a rare surapply, a filing with the court,

00:22:58.000 claiming that the government had additional evidence

00:23:00.980 that the DNC had been hacked by the Russians,

00:23:03.700 but they didn't have to produce it for my trial

00:23:05.980 because of matters of national security.

00:23:08.460 In other words, they had no proof whatsoever.

00:23:11.980 In your particular case, George Aaron Zelensky,

00:23:16.140 another one of the Mueller thugs,

00:23:18.720 according to documents we have both seen,

00:23:21.600 actually altered the FBI's transcript of his interview with you,

00:23:26.840 called a 302, in which they asked you whether you would cooperate

00:23:31.160 in their efforts to locate this mysterious Professor Mifsud,

00:23:36.500 who seemed to be an operative in this whole operation,

00:23:40.200 and you said, of course, you'd be happy to cooperate,

00:23:42.560 but he changed the document to have you say that you didn't.

00:23:45.560 Why has this guy not been prosecuted?

00:23:48.620 Yeah, Roger, this is a very disturbing pattern

00:23:51.000 that we've seen over and over,

00:23:52.280 and it really starts with even Kevin Clinsmith,

00:23:56.220 this FBI lawyer that was altering documents

00:23:59.700 about Carter Page and others,

00:24:02.060 where they were saying that Carter Page

00:24:03.760 was not a CIA helper or CIA informant of some nature,

00:24:09.220 but that he was working with the Russians.

00:24:10.860 It goes to the same situation with you.

00:24:13.200 They were lying, saying that you knew things about hacking,

00:24:15.400 even though there was no evidence

00:24:16.580 that there was ever any hacking,

00:24:18.320 and with this infamous person, Mifsud,

00:24:21.160 absolutely, when the FBI,

00:24:24.500 actually, when I told the FBI about him

00:24:26.940 and said there was this shady guy,

00:24:28.540 you should look into him,

00:24:30.020 that was me overtly trying to cooperate

00:24:33.420 and to let them know that this guy

00:24:35.180 might be up to no good.

00:24:36.960 I don't know what that whole situation was all about,

00:24:39.460 and then what did Zelensky do?

00:24:41.240 While part of the Mueller team,

00:24:43.180 he said, no, Papadopoulos was there

00:24:44.520 to obstruct the investigation.

00:24:46.700 Papadopoulos was there to potentially work

00:24:48.820 with this person, even though we now know,

00:24:51.200 based on numerous fact-finding missions

00:24:53.380 by extremely adequate reporters,

00:24:56.160 that Mifsud was likely part of an operation

00:24:58.160 working with Western intelligence

00:24:59.700 against me and potentially others

00:25:01.940 on the Trump campaign.

00:25:03.420 And Zelensky and others on the Mueller team

00:25:05.200 did what they know best,

00:25:06.660 that is, lie about the truth,

00:25:08.940 cover up the real story.

00:25:10.560 And Roger, just to be quite frank here,

00:25:12.960 I've always said that I thought that Mueller

00:25:14.920 was there to cover up for the egregious misconduct

00:25:17.140 of Comey.

00:25:19.140 So I'm not really surprised that prosecutors

00:25:22.060 like Zelensky, who are tied into the Democrats

00:25:24.680 and big law, did that. 0.99

00:25:26.780 What I'm most surprised about

00:25:28.360 is that this information took so long to come out,

00:25:31.560 but we still have other information

00:25:33.100 that we need to come out, Roger.

00:25:35.320 You know, you have people like Special Counsel John Durham

00:25:38.160 say that the so-called predicate

00:25:40.800 that launched Crossfire Hurricane,

00:25:43.080 that launched Mueller, was not correct,

00:25:46.440 that it was illegal and that there was more to the story.

00:25:48.940 We need that information to come out, Roger.

00:25:51.260 We need those files declassified.

00:25:53.300 We need to know what the CIA was up to,

00:25:55.760 what John Brennan was really up to,

00:25:57.700 what all of these stories about honeypots

00:26:00.180 in 2015 were really all about.

00:26:02.960 Because if we don't have the source

00:26:05.060 and the knowledge about that,

00:26:07.680 that went into the fake predicate

00:26:09.380 of Crossfire Hurricane,

00:26:10.640 we'll never have the true story.

00:26:12.740 So that is what I think the next step should be

00:26:15.300 regarding declassification.

00:26:17.180 And that includes John Brennan and others, too.

00:26:19.860 Yeah, it was the same Mueller prosecutor,

00:26:22.060 Aaron Zelensky,

00:26:23.220 who insisted that he and three other prosecutors

00:26:27.140 had been pressured by Maine Justice

00:26:29.620 to, quote-unquote,

00:26:31.140 go easy on Roger Stone in sentencing. 1.00

00:26:34.540 But only Zelensky was stupid enough 1.00

00:26:36.700 to say that under oath 1.00

00:26:37.940 before the House Judiciary Committee

00:26:39.720 because a subsequent investigation

00:26:42.220 by the inspector general

00:26:44.320 of the Justice Department

00:26:45.640 proved that there was no pressure

00:26:48.040 on these prosecutors.

00:26:50.640 They wanted to give me seven to nine years

00:26:53.140 for allegedly lying to Congress,

00:26:56.660 but their sentencing memo said

00:26:58.860 that I had cooperated in foreign interference

00:27:01.860 in an American election,

00:27:03.620 which, of course,

00:27:04.100 I wasn't either charged with or guilty of.

00:27:08.440 So Zelensky perjured himself before Congress.

00:27:12.440 Wait a minute.

00:27:13.280 Isn't that exactly what they charged me with,

00:27:15.880 claimed that I did,

00:27:16.840 even though no misstatement I made to Congress

00:27:19.680 was material?

00:27:20.880 No misstatement I said was willful.

00:27:23.320 There was no Russian collusion.

00:27:25.500 There was no WikiLeaks collaboration.

00:27:27.800 And Robert Mueller knew that,

00:27:30.340 said it in his final report,

00:27:32.020 but then redacted it so I would never know.

00:27:35.740 Judge Amy Berman Jackson,

00:27:38.180 when my lawyers moved for the full Mueller report

00:27:41.980 to be used in my defense,

00:27:43.600 she denied it to us.

00:27:44.740 She said that she would read the report

00:27:47.340 and she would give my lawyers

00:27:49.620 the sections that were relevant to me.

00:27:52.420 Why did she leave out the section

00:27:54.280 in which even Mother could not sugarcoat

00:27:56.220 that he found no evidence of Russian collusion,

00:27:58.900 WikiLeaks collaboration,

00:28:00.080 or, for that matter,

00:28:01.100 any other crime on my part?

00:28:03.220 In other words,

00:28:03.940 she withheld exculpatory evidence

00:28:06.220 from my defense attorneys.

00:28:08.240 Why she hasn't been impeached

00:28:09.720 is yet another adequate and legitimate question.

00:28:14.300 Additionally, George,

00:28:15.400 when we come back,

00:28:17.180 we have a little bit of time here,

00:28:18.340 but when we come back,

00:28:19.120 I do want you to go into your own experience

00:28:21.880 about how they set you up

00:28:24.000 to be used as a pawn

00:28:26.500 in the entire Russian collusion hoax.

00:28:29.400 Let me note that Christopher Steele,

00:28:31.640 the former British intelligence agent

00:28:33.960 who was the author of the so-called Steele dossier,

00:28:38.220 was paid $75,000,

00:28:40.840 but they offered him a $1 million bonus

00:28:44.060 if he could prove that anything

00:28:45.740 he had alleged about Trump was true.

00:28:49.080 And he didn't collect the million dollars

00:28:50.600 because all of it was a lie.

00:28:53.760 It really is disconcerting.

00:28:56.840 I have great confidence in Kash Patel,

00:28:59.000 the FBI director.

00:29:00.000 I have great confidence in Pam Bondi,

00:29:01.640 the attorney general.

00:29:02.840 I know both of them very well.

00:29:05.240 But like many,

00:29:06.800 including our mutual friend,

00:29:08.180 General Flynn and others,

00:29:09.460 we wonder,

00:29:10.720 is anyone going to be held accountable here?

00:29:14.700 The Durham investigation,

00:29:16.240 in my opinion,

00:29:16.800 was yet another hoax.

00:29:18.840 First of all,

00:29:19.260 he took five long years,

00:29:21.740 just long enough

00:29:22.620 for the statute of limitations to run out

00:29:24.680 so that Hillary Clinton

00:29:26.060 and Jake Sullivan

00:29:27.260 and John Podesta

00:29:28.540 and Chip Comey,

00:29:30.560 the FBI director,

00:29:31.680 and John Brennan,

00:29:32.360 the CIA director,

00:29:33.320 just long enough

00:29:34.100 so that they could not be charged.

00:29:35.740 Although I argue that

00:29:37.580 there is no statute of limitations

00:29:39.180 when it comes to treason

00:29:40.880 and that this is treasonous activity.

00:29:44.160 But Durham never inspected

00:29:46.400 or addressed the question

00:29:48.000 of whether the DNC

00:29:49.640 had indeed been hacked

00:29:50.860 by Russian intelligence.

00:29:52.480 My attorneys sent him forensic evidence

00:29:55.400 and made available to him

00:29:57.360 expert witnesses

00:29:58.560 such as former CIA

00:30:00.520 counterintelligence expert,

00:30:02.080 Bill Binney,

00:30:02.620 and he never addressed the question

00:30:06.040 at all in his final report.

00:30:08.180 In retrospect, George,

00:30:09.200 I think that the Durham investigation

00:30:11.320 was a holding action,

00:30:13.360 was an effort to ratchet down

00:30:15.860 the pressure

00:30:16.560 on the Barr Justice Department

00:30:18.740 to investigate

00:30:20.000 and hold those accountable

00:30:21.820 for the Russian collusion hoax

00:30:23.600 for their actions.

00:30:26.200 I think you agree with me on that.

00:30:29.120 Yeah, I think

00:30:30.020 the entire situation

00:30:31.680 with John Durham

00:30:32.400 is that he let a lot of people down,

00:30:34.860 including probably

00:30:35.900 his own professional reputation,

00:30:38.260 because during

00:30:39.340 this infamous exchange

00:30:41.680 that he had

00:30:42.240 with Congressman Matt Gaetz

00:30:43.440 during his testimony

00:30:44.380 to the Judiciary Committee,

00:30:46.380 the congressman told him flat out,

00:30:48.040 you're part of a cover-up,

00:30:49.560 you're not telling the full story,

00:30:51.320 you didn't do

00:30:51.920 what you were supposed to do,

00:30:53.620 and you let down yourself

00:30:55.100 and the American people.

00:30:56.740 And I think the only thing

00:30:58.760 that John Durham accomplished,

00:31:01.060 if you want to call it anything

00:31:02.300 an accomplishment,

00:31:03.160 was that he said

00:31:04.080 that he refutes

00:31:05.480 the official predicate

00:31:06.560 of how the entire thing started

00:31:08.540 and that there was

00:31:09.180 a lot more agencies involved,

00:31:11.640 there were other countries involved,

00:31:13.360 and that the story goes

00:31:15.120 way further back

00:31:16.280 than July of 2016,

00:31:20.200 when apparently

00:31:21.140 Crossfire Hurricane launched.

00:31:22.640 Now, that is all good.

00:31:24.860 However, he didn't give

00:31:26.200 the information

00:31:27.020 of what he actually meant.

00:31:29.140 He basically just

00:31:30.040 left it as a cliffhanger

00:31:31.800 that this happened,

00:31:33.600 but I can't give you

00:31:34.480 the details.

00:31:35.300 Now, if you've investigated

00:31:36.720 a situation like you said

00:31:38.100 for five years,

00:31:39.500 why were you presenting

00:31:40.960 your case in front

00:31:41.840 of the Judiciary Committee

00:31:42.800 and not giving the facts?

00:31:44.680 Is it because things

00:31:45.860 were classified at that moment?

00:31:47.400 Because it was

00:31:47.900 the Biden administration?

00:31:49.700 Was there an actual cover-up?

00:31:51.240 These are questions

00:31:52.260 that we have to understand.

00:31:53.940 Was Crossfire Hurricane

00:31:55.400 basically providing top cover

00:31:58.000 for Comey's off-the-books

00:31:59.740 illegal activities

00:32:00.660 that he initiated

00:32:01.620 before Crossfire Hurricane?

00:32:03.960 These are very important questions,

00:32:06.180 Roger,

00:32:06.440 that we don't have answers to

00:32:08.520 even with the rollout

00:32:10.680 of these files

00:32:11.560 that have come out,

00:32:12.240 over 700 pages

00:32:13.300 of Crossfire Hurricane.

00:32:14.920 So, if Special Counsel

00:32:15.960 John Durham

00:32:16.640 says that the FBI

00:32:19.000 wasn't the only agency

00:32:20.660 involved here

00:32:21.400 and that Crossfire Hurricane

00:32:22.600 isn't the beginning

00:32:23.380 and the end,

00:32:24.360 then we need to start

00:32:25.240 asking these important questions

00:32:26.660 to people like

00:32:27.380 D.N.I. Gabbard

00:32:28.300 and also CIA Director

00:32:30.060 John Ratcliffe

00:32:31.040 and have those files

00:32:33.020 be presented

00:32:33.680 to the Attorney General

00:32:35.240 to see if there are

00:32:36.560 prosecutorial cases

00:32:38.460 that can be made

00:32:39.640 off new evidence

00:32:41.000 that John Durham

00:32:42.060 alluded to.

00:32:43.060 Because if we don't have

00:32:43.820 the full picture here,

00:32:44.900 Roger,

00:32:45.560 if we don't have the facts

00:32:46.720 about really

00:32:47.540 what went into

00:32:48.680 this fake story

00:32:49.540 about hacking

00:32:50.220 that they tried

00:32:51.220 to level against you,

00:32:52.720 about these people

00:32:53.760 like Joseph Mipso

00:32:54.620 that they were

00:32:55.100 throwing at me,

00:32:56.300 about covering up

00:32:57.400 the situation

00:32:59.020 with Christopher Steele

00:33:00.080 and how that went

00:33:00.700 into the FISA files,

00:33:03.860 that we'll never

00:33:04.560 have the truth,

00:33:05.340 no one will be

00:33:05.900 held accountable,

00:33:06.720 and they'll continue

00:33:07.420 to do this over and over

00:33:08.880 and might try to

00:33:10.040 sabotage Trump

00:33:10.760 from within again

00:33:11.520 this time.

00:33:12.440 This can't happen

00:33:13.100 again, Roger.

00:33:13.620 If you're just tuning in,

00:33:15.100 we're talking to

00:33:15.600 George Papadopoulos

00:33:16.500 and we'll be right back.

00:33:18.520 It's the Stone Zone.

00:33:20.520 Here's Roger Stone.

00:33:22.520 And you're back

00:33:23.480 in the Stone Zone.

00:33:24.420 We're talking to

00:33:25.220 former Trump

00:33:26.540 foreign policy advisor

00:33:28.060 George Papadopoulos.

00:33:30.300 George,

00:33:30.580 I want to shift gears here

00:33:31.920 because politics

00:33:32.700 is always about the future,

00:33:34.160 never about the past,

00:33:35.340 even though I think

00:33:36.600 we and many of those

00:33:38.480 in the MAGA movement

00:33:39.380 want to know

00:33:40.480 exactly what happened

00:33:41.380 in the Russian collusion hoax

00:33:42.500 and those who should

00:33:43.960 be held accountable

00:33:44.800 should be prosecuted.

00:33:46.220 How do you think

00:33:47.300 President Trump

00:33:47.900 is doing

00:33:48.520 in this new term?

00:33:51.160 I think President Trump

00:33:52.620 learned many lessons

00:33:53.600 from his first term

00:33:54.600 and the most important

00:33:56.100 is that personnel

00:33:57.020 is policy

00:33:58.060 and by that

00:33:58.940 he's appointed

00:34:00.040 patriotic Americans,

00:34:01.760 constitutionalists,

00:34:02.740 and people who are there

00:34:03.520 to serve the American people

00:34:04.920 and not to grift

00:34:06.380 or undermine

00:34:07.220 the America First movement.

00:34:09.280 During his first term,

00:34:10.300 of course,

00:34:10.840 people say,

00:34:12.020 oh,

00:34:12.240 you had the Republicans

00:34:13.120 have controlling Congress.

00:34:15.320 That was not the case.

00:34:16.420 Actually,

00:34:16.840 the Mueller situation

00:34:17.840 and so many of these rhinos

00:34:19.720 subverted the America First movement

00:34:22.080 from within,

00:34:22.800 prevented him from enacting

00:34:24.140 many of his policy proposals

00:34:26.180 and legislation.

00:34:28.540 This time around,

00:34:29.700 people like Howard Lutnick,

00:34:31.520 Secretary of State Marco Rubio,

00:34:34.160 Treasury Secretary Besson,

00:34:35.560 everybody is on the same page

00:34:37.620 and in tandem

00:34:38.820 with the series

00:34:39.740 of executive orders

00:34:40.720 that the president

00:34:41.940 has signed,

00:34:42.900 you understand

00:34:43.780 why now the border

00:34:44.920 is finally secure,

00:34:46.360 why the American economy

00:34:47.720 is once again

00:34:48.720 on the right path

00:34:49.680 and World War III

00:34:51.080 has been prevented.

00:34:52.520 These three issues

00:34:53.980 were critical

00:34:55.220 to this past election

00:34:56.480 and I haven't even,

00:34:57.140 and we just discussed,

00:34:58.000 of course,

00:34:58.220 the weaponization

00:34:58.840 of government.

00:34:59.800 That's the fourth element

00:35:01.960 to why I think

00:35:02.720 President Trump

00:35:03.360 had this resounding victory

00:35:04.600 and he is enacting

00:35:06.320 on all of these key pillars

00:35:08.440 and he's making

00:35:09.460 the right moves

00:35:10.380 with the right people

00:35:11.640 at the right time

00:35:12.960 to make sure

00:35:13.960 that he is a successful president

00:35:15.540 and his vision

00:35:17.120 is implemented

00:35:18.160 and that's exactly

00:35:19.120 what's going on

00:35:19.920 and I think we're all

00:35:20.740 going to be a lot richer

00:35:21.740 and a lot safer

00:35:23.080 and we're going to be

00:35:24.340 functioning as a true republic

00:35:25.820 with the rule of law

00:35:26.960 during this administration

00:35:28.360 and hopefully moving

00:35:29.260 into the future

00:35:29.920 now that President Trump

00:35:31.000 has enacted the policies

00:35:33.080 the way he has begun.

00:35:34.600 Yeah, I could not agree more.

00:35:37.180 I mean, ironically,

00:35:38.120 I think he was still

00:35:39.480 a great president

00:35:40.300 in his first term

00:35:41.140 despite the fact

00:35:41.940 that many of the people

00:35:42.920 that he appointed

00:35:44.500 thought their job

00:35:45.380 was to delay

00:35:46.400 or derail his agenda.

00:35:49.620 Yet he gave us

00:35:50.760 a boom economy,

00:35:52.220 rebuilt our military strength,

00:35:54.220 appointed scores

00:35:55.520 of conservatives

00:35:56.380 to the courts,

00:35:57.640 sealed our southern border.

00:35:59.520 He was a truly

00:36:00.420 great president.

00:36:01.680 I think, however,

00:36:03.140 having sat out

00:36:04.160 one term

00:36:04.940 and returned,

00:36:06.640 having gone through

00:36:07.560 the crucible

00:36:08.280 of the tsunami

00:36:09.380 of lawfare

00:36:10.220 and seen firsthand

00:36:11.740 the viciousness

00:36:12.820 and the dishonesty

00:36:13.900 of the political establishment,

00:36:16.280 he is a battle-hardened

00:36:18.180 leader now.

00:36:19.600 He is so much

00:36:20.620 better prepared

00:36:21.860 for this new term.

00:36:23.420 And I predict,

00:36:25.100 yet again,

00:36:25.780 a golden age,

00:36:27.220 an unprecedented age

00:36:28.520 of peace,

00:36:29.600 prosperity,

00:36:30.700 security,

00:36:31.300 justice,

00:36:32.020 and law and order.

00:36:34.120 I was with him

00:36:34.840 Friday night

00:36:35.720 for dinner,

00:36:36.520 saw him the following morning

00:36:37.680 at breakfast.

00:36:38.960 He is calm,

00:36:40.680 he is happy,

00:36:41.740 he is serene,

00:36:42.960 and above all,

00:36:43.740 he is confident

00:36:44.480 that he has

00:36:45.400 the game plan

00:36:46.460 to make America

00:36:47.700 truly great again.

00:36:50.140 Thank you so much

00:36:50.920 for joining us here

00:36:51.600 in the Stone Zone.

00:36:52.360 Until we meet again,

00:36:53.520 God bless you

00:36:54.280 and Godspeed.

00:36:55.520 We'll be right back.

00:37:25.520 We'll be right back.

The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - April 14, 2025

The Stone Zone ｜ 04-14-25

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