The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The Stone Zone ｜ 04-14-25


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Summary

While China attempts to wait out American terrorists, co-opting the panic on Wall Street, President Trump and his team of economic advisors are employing the classic techniques found in the president's bestseller, The Art of the Deal.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 It's the Stone Zone. Here's Roger Stone.
00:00:04.060 Welcome. You are in the Stone Zone. Here we tell the stone-cold truth.
00:00:09.780 So, while China attempts to wait out American terrorists, co-opting the panic on Wall Street,
00:00:16.140 President Donald Trump and his team of economic advisors are employing the classic techniques
00:00:21.480 found in the president's bestseller, The Art of the Deal.
00:00:25.440 When markets closed, President Trump took a Saturday to announce a wave of exemptions
00:00:31.880 to the recent 90-day pause on reciprocal tariffs.
00:00:36.780 Yes, a series of specific sector exemptions to a 90-day pause amid negotiations.
00:00:43.360 This included semiconductor, chip parts, and other electronics.
00:00:47.400 This affected companies like Apple in Nevada.
00:00:50.680 Apple was up nearly 30% shortly after the market closed.
00:00:55.920 And Nevada was up almost 0.15%.
00:00:59.200 Now, many commentators speculated that China had won.
00:01:03.120 But wait! Not so fast.
00:01:05.620 The following morning, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick went on ABC with left-wing journalist
00:01:11.560 John Carl to say that those exemptions issued over the Jewish Passover holiday would only
00:01:17.760 last 30 days when then new semiconductor and pharmaceutical tariffs would kick into place.
00:01:26.000 President Trump has long said it was a national security interest to have our medicines, like
00:01:32.100 antibiotics, for example, made here in America.
00:01:35.200 Well, if Lutnick was sent to reassure the markets, he did just the opposite.
00:01:40.960 Twitter, now known as X, and businesses are embroiled with a rage at the Commerce Secretary,
00:01:49.860 seems that every media appearance by the former hedge fund manager tanks the market.
00:01:55.020 Or maybe Lutnick was sent out to play bad cop in a good cop versus bad cop routine.
00:02:03.620 Has Trump pulled the world's greatest media into The Apprentice show to date?
00:02:09.080 Well, we'll have to wait and see.
00:02:10.560 The Federal Reserve Chairman, Jerome Powell, who has turned into a political animal, refusing
00:02:15.560 to lower interest rates under Trump, like he did in his half-hearted attempt to help Biden's
00:02:22.040 failing campaign for re-election, is set to speak this week.
00:02:26.360 This week promises more volatility, which is leverage for the president and action for swing
00:02:32.980 traders.
00:02:33.980 But maybe we're all being distracted by the theatrics of Lutnick, China, and the markets.
00:02:39.460 Last week, Fox News and the New York Post reported that President Trump had tapped
00:02:45.200 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, the man who went to economic war with both Britain and China
00:02:51.720 earlier in his career, and beat both of them, I should say, to lead the effort in gaining
00:02:59.000 leverage to create a new America-first economy.
00:03:02.840 Besson impresses me he could be the greatest Secretary of the Treasury since Alexander Hamilton.
00:03:08.340 Besson looks poised to help Main Street by rebalancing the dollar, equities, and bonds.
00:03:14.860 He is a calming and reassuring voice for the markets.
00:03:19.460 Only Trump, Besson, and Lutnick know what the plan is, but the good cop, bad cop scenario
00:03:26.040 seems to be working.
00:03:27.020 They've made a promise to Main Street, and they've received a mandate from the American
00:03:31.840 people to do so.
00:03:33.540 Coming up is the golden age, an age of unprecedented peace, prosperity, security, and justice.
00:03:40.440 All you have to do is stay the course.
00:03:43.520 Don't be, as President Trump says, a panic-in.
00:03:46.840 Today, the market was up between three and four points, far more stable than anticipated.
00:03:52.660 It appears to me like President Trump's gambit is working.
00:03:58.140 Remember the Russian collusion hoax?
00:04:00.920 That was a three-year fraud upon the American people.
00:04:05.400 We know that the entire plot was born in an Oval Office meeting with President Barack Obama,
00:04:13.180 Vice President Joe Biden, National Security Advisor Susan Rice, FBI Director James Comey,
00:04:21.260 and CIA Director John Brennan.
00:04:25.180 This was the greatest single abuse of power in American history, the greatest single dirty
00:04:32.560 trick.
00:04:32.960 It was nothing less than an abuse of power in which the full authority of the United States
00:04:38.260 government and the extraordinary capabilities of our intelligence agencies were used, utilizing
00:04:44.880 two pieces of what they knew were fraudulent evidence, the so-called Steele dossier, which
00:04:52.180 was originated and paid for by Hillary Clinton, but had no basis in fact.
00:04:57.460 That was the false claim that businessman Donald Trump had dallied with Russian prostitutes while
00:05:04.080 visiting Moscow on a business trip and had actually watched them urinate on a bed that was once
00:05:11.500 inhabited by President Barack Obama, complete and total fiction.
00:05:15.940 And then the secondary claim that the Democrat National Committee had been subjected to an online
00:05:22.280 hack by Russian intelligence.
00:05:25.260 Another claim, for which there is not only no proof, but CrowdStrikes, the company that
00:05:32.020 was hired by the DNC to investigate, claimed publicly that their report showed Russian hacking
00:05:39.360 when the head of CrowdStrikes, Sean Henry, who just happened to be a former deputy to Robert
00:05:47.240 Mueller, the head of the witch hunt, testified before the House Intelligence Committee that he
00:05:52.420 had no such evidence.
00:05:55.420 Well, now the FBI has released 700 pages of the declassified documents related to this whole hoax,
00:06:03.180 the so-called Crossfire Hurricane investigation, which focused on the alleged ties between Russia
00:06:10.340 and the Trump campaign in 2016.
00:06:12.100 These documents, also referred to as the Russiagate binder, consist of seven separate files,
00:06:20.060 totally over 700 pages.
00:06:23.480 The release was facilitated by FBI Director Kash Patel and made available to the public through
00:06:28.640 various outlets, including Just the News, The Federalist, and right here on the Red Apple
00:06:34.340 Audio Networks.
00:06:36.320 These are the Crossfire Hurricane records that Joe Biden, the deep state, and a number of so-called
00:06:43.900 journalists spent years trying to keep hidden from the American people.
00:06:48.240 This is what the raid on Mar-a-Lago by the FBI was really all about.
00:06:54.620 They wanted to get these papers, which under the Presidential Records Act, Donald Trump had
00:06:59.600 every right to hold on to.
00:07:01.920 They wanted them back because they show epic criminality by Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and
00:07:08.300 his entire cabal.
00:07:10.140 These documents also show a key FBI informant in the widely depunked Russian collusion case
00:07:18.400 was paid nearly $1.2 million of your tax money over three decades that he was motivated
00:07:27.000 by monetary compensation and continued making up lies even after agents concluded that he had
00:07:34.360 been spinning a completely inaccurate story about General Michael Flynn, who would later serve as
00:07:42.240 President Trump's first national security advisor.
00:07:45.440 Stephen Halper, who actually had once played poker with in a floating poker game in Washington, D.C.,
00:07:51.780 was a consultant to the Pentagon and an academic who was extremely well paid to, along with British
00:08:00.540 intelligence agent Christopher Steele, and it was used by the FBI agents to build the fraudulent
00:08:06.720 crossfire hurricane case against Trump and his advisors.
00:08:11.060 That includes General Flynn, Paul Manafort, and, well, yes, yours truly.
00:08:16.620 This happened during the end of the 2016 campaign, and it continued for three and a half years,
00:08:27.060 hobbling the Trump administration in some regards.
00:08:31.240 This new memo that has been declassified confirmed that Halper was the source of one of the most
00:08:36.380 sensational, bogus claims to land in the FBI's probe in the summer of 2016.
00:08:42.360 That was that Flynn, who is a happily married man, left a 2014 foreign policy meeting alone
00:08:49.260 with great-looking Russian scholar Svetlana Lokhava when he was a three-star general at that time
00:08:56.840 leading the Defense Intelligence Agency.
00:09:00.540 It was a lie.
00:09:02.080 FBI agents ultimately deemed that Halper's account was not plausible and not accurate,
00:09:07.780 but the FBI proceeded to investigate Flynn, continued to pay Halper, and continued to vouch for his veracity
00:09:16.180 as a confidential human source, codenamed Mitch.
00:09:22.340 This is what the new declassified documents show.
00:09:25.600 You notice how there's very little coverage of any of this in the mainstream media.
00:09:31.180 I looked at the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal.
00:09:34.740 There's nary a word about these bombshell revelations.
00:09:39.520 So, for example, in March of 2017, there's a memo that shows the FBI's validation management unit
00:09:46.360 wrote that it assesses it is likely that Halper is suitable for continued operations
00:09:53.740 based on his authenticity, reliability, and control.
00:09:58.400 That memo makes no mention of its unredacted portions of the concerns about the account
00:10:04.680 that Halper gave smearing Flynn and this woman, Lokhava,
00:10:09.400 which were confirmed in a memo from William Barnett, the FBI agent who handled the retired Flynn's case in 2016 and 2017.
00:10:19.560 These new FBI records also show that Halper was paid $70,000 by the FBI
00:10:26.200 between August 2016 and the start of February 2016,
00:10:30.580 a time period spanning his activation as an informant targeting the Trump campaign
00:10:36.640 and then the 2016 election and Trump's inauguration.
00:10:39.580 The FBI records also showed that the Bureau had paid Stephen Halper, the informant,
00:10:45.860 $1,181,064 from 1991 into early 2017.
00:10:55.180 The classified documents also show that the FBI played British intelligence agent,
00:11:00.540 former agent, Christopher Steele, $75,000 for the dirt on Donald Trump.
00:11:05.400 They offered him a million-dollar bonus if he could prove that any of it was true.
00:11:11.100 But he never collected the bonus because all of it was a lie.
00:11:15.540 Steele openly admitted that Trump was his main opponent during his period in Britain.
00:11:22.240 So the simple question is, will anybody be held accountable?
00:11:27.380 Well, it's true that Barack Obama, under the recent decision by the U.S. Supreme Court,
00:11:32.680 probably has presidential immunity.
00:11:35.400 But what about Vice President Joe Biden?
00:11:38.720 Biden suggested that General Flynn be charged with violation of the Logan Act,
00:11:44.580 even though Barack Obama's national security advisor spoke to the Russian ambassador
00:11:50.620 prior to his being sworn in, and it was proven that Flynn didn't lie.
00:11:56.100 In other words, the claim that General Michael Flynn,
00:11:59.300 before he was confirmed as a national security advisor,
00:12:02.380 assured the Russians that Trump would go easy on sanctions,
00:12:06.620 that is a complete falsehood.
00:12:09.700 In fact, the three FBI agents who actually interviewed Flynn,
00:12:14.600 who sadly spoke to them without a lawyer present,
00:12:18.240 found that nothing Flynn had said was false.
00:12:22.020 Yet they sought to destroy this great American patriot.
00:12:25.900 In the 50 years I've been in American politics,
00:12:29.280 I have not met not only a greater geopolitical thinker,
00:12:34.120 but a finer Christian gentleman and a truly loyal friend than General Michael Flynn.
00:12:41.880 And I still believe that his greatest public service lies ahead.
00:12:49.260 A little bit later on here in the Stone Zone,
00:12:51.660 we're going to interview George Papadopoulos.
00:12:53.900 He was one of the other victims of the Russian collusion hoax.
00:12:57.680 They tried to destroy him the same way they tried to destroy me,
00:13:01.340 but it was all a lie.
00:13:04.340 On the other hand, I also grow impatient.
00:13:07.520 I love Kash Patel and Pam Bondi, the FBI director,
00:13:11.440 and our current attorney general.
00:13:13.440 But it's time for somebody to be charged,
00:13:16.560 for somebody to be held accountable.
00:13:19.720 After what my family and I went through,
00:13:22.520 I'm very anxious to see the rebalancing of the scales of justice,
00:13:26.820 so that we have one system, not two,
00:13:29.780 so that there's not a two-tiered system of justice in the country.
00:13:34.200 And those who perpetrated the greatest single dirty trick in American history,
00:13:39.600 the Russian collusion hoax, are finally held accountable.
00:13:43.900 Somebody needs to have their home raided by the FBI at 6 o'clock in the morning
00:13:48.680 with 29 heavily armed FBI agents.
00:13:52.140 Somebody needs to be held accountable and sent to prison.
00:13:55.820 When we get back, a little more,
00:13:57.660 and then we'll talk to George Papadopoulos about his experience
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00:14:39.640 The House last Thursday passed the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act,
00:14:44.240 or SAVE, in a 2020-208 vote.
00:14:48.960 This bill requires proof of U.S. citizenship to be able to vote in a federal election.
00:14:54.120 This comes after President Donald Trump signed an executive order
00:14:57.280 mandating that individuals provide proof of U.S. citizenship while registering to vote.
00:15:02.580 Only four Democrats voted in favor of the bill.
00:15:07.620 How could any member of Congress be in favor of people who are not U.S. citizens voting in our elections?
00:15:15.800 You have to wonder.
00:15:17.360 Proponents of the bill argue that it was necessary to prevent migrants from voting in elections.
00:15:22.520 One of the bill's co-sponsors, Representative Chip Roy,
00:15:25.060 said there's nothing more sacred under the Constitution than ensuring that people are able to have the voice
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00:15:35.080 Once that is undermined, then people lose faith in the very institutions upon which this nation was built.
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00:15:55.500 If the French can count 38 million paper ballots and do it in one day, having results on the night of the election,
00:16:03.840 well, why can't we do that?
00:16:05.860 How about having the election all on one day?
00:16:08.860 In some states, they're still counting, that means finding, votes three weeks after the election.
00:16:15.120 The most recent election in Orange County, California, more people voted than are registered to vote.
00:16:24.060 Now, until we have clean elections, paper ballots, elections on one day,
00:16:29.920 and frankly do away with mail-in ballots, which is the greatest single threat to our honest elections,
00:16:36.820 an open invitation for fraud, well, then we cannot have a true democracy and the American people cannot have their voice.
00:16:44.500 When we come back, George Papadopoulos, former foreign policy advisor, both to President Donald Trump and to Dr. Ben Carson,
00:16:51.580 he was also victimized in the Russian collusion hoax.
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00:17:29.680 Here's Roger Stone.
00:17:34.120 And you're back in the Stone Zone.
00:17:36.660 Joining me now, George Papadopoulos.
00:17:39.020 He is a former foreign policy advisor to both Donald Trump and Dr. Ben Carson.
00:17:44.460 From 2011 to 2015, he worked as a research associate with the Hudson Institute,
00:17:49.700 as well as director of the London Center for International Law Practice.
00:17:53.960 He is currently a contributor at Newsmax and a best-selling author of the book Deep State Target,
00:18:01.120 how I got caught in the crosshairs of the plot to take down President Donald Trump.
00:18:06.720 He was also one of the principal victims of the Russian collusion hoax
00:18:11.080 and the Mueller Inquisition.
00:18:13.700 George Papadopoulos, welcome into the Stone Zone.
00:18:17.340 It's great to be with you, Roger.
00:18:18.940 Thanks for having me.
00:18:19.680 I think it's really timely, George, to have you on.
00:18:23.460 I just saw you and your beautiful Italian wife, Simona, this past weekend
00:18:28.620 at a great Lincoln-Reagan-Trump dinner in Collier County, Florida.
00:18:35.600 It was a great evening, and you gave a great speech.
00:18:38.960 As you know, the FBI has released 700 pages of declassified documents related to Crossfire Hurricane.
00:18:45.640 That's the counterintelligence effort that was focused on the alleged but nonexistent ties
00:18:52.080 between Russia and the Trump campaign back in 2016.
00:18:56.240 Now, these documents were first declassified at the end of the first Trump term,
00:19:01.500 but they never saw the light of day because the bureaucrats in the NSA
00:19:05.280 essentially decided to wait Donald Trump out.
00:19:08.400 They disobeyed a direct executive order of the president,
00:19:12.260 but now we finally have them, and they're relatively shocking.
00:19:16.680 We just found out that the FBI paid Stephen Halper,
00:19:22.180 an associate of former President George H.W. Bush,
00:19:26.900 and a political consultant and academic,
00:19:29.880 well, they paid him $1.2 million as an informant.
00:19:34.400 The only problem was the information he was providing all appears to be false.
00:19:39.060 Your reaction?
00:19:39.700 Yes, yes, it was great to see you, Roger.
00:19:43.480 It was an incredible event in Collier County.
00:19:45.760 Florida's doing wonderful things here with the Republican Party.
00:19:48.540 And look, regarding this recent declassified,
00:19:53.300 I should say the release of the declassified information,
00:19:56.340 but you're absolutely right.
00:19:57.760 President Trump attempted to get this information out
00:20:00.940 to the American public before the 2020 election,
00:20:04.120 but of course the bureaucrats and those who basically were subverting his administration
00:20:11.060 and his policies and his movement from within
00:20:13.940 prevented those files from coming out,
00:20:17.020 while simultaneously, of course,
00:20:18.860 you had 51 intelligence officers colluding with both big tech
00:20:23.080 and the media to suppress the infamous Hunter laptop story
00:20:27.320 that swayed the last election.
00:20:28.760 So now that we finally have some light that is shined upon these files,
00:20:36.700 it's actually a lot worse than I really thought.
00:20:39.280 There aren't too many people that can now actually look at the facts
00:20:44.240 with the declassified information
00:20:46.080 and think that President Trump and his 2016 campaign
00:20:50.080 and his first administration were guilty of anything
00:20:52.780 except being victims of an overzealous Democrat prosecutorial base
00:20:59.780 and a weaponized government that attempted to basically overthrow his administration
00:21:05.720 with falsehoods and fake information.
00:21:08.760 So the situation that you referenced with Stefan Halper
00:21:12.900 is extremely damaging to both the FBI and the Obama administration
00:21:18.700 and actually the Uniparty, because this is a person that you rightfully just explained,
00:21:23.860 was an associate of a Republican administrations.
00:21:27.280 He was a professor at Cambridge University,
00:21:29.920 but then he was moonlighting as an informant
00:21:32.580 that attempted to ingratiate himself within the Trump campaign.
00:21:36.180 Now, that is all good, potentially,
00:21:38.680 if there was some criminal activity being conducted
00:21:40.940 by people associated to the Trump administration, the Trump campaign,
00:21:45.020 but that wasn't the case, Roger.
00:21:46.260 What Halper was doing was he was being paid to basically throw dirt and lies
00:21:51.940 on associates of President Trump and himself
00:21:54.960 in order to allow the FBI to continue this fake investigation.
00:21:59.260 It stinks to high heaven, Roger, and it's time for accountability.
00:22:03.260 Yeah, it's quite extraordinary to me that Andrew Weissman,
00:22:07.540 who was the de facto head of the Mueller Inquisition,
00:22:10.740 because Mueller, as we now know, seemed to me to be around the bend,
00:22:14.260 he knew all the way back to his time as the general counsel to the FBI
00:22:18.820 that the so-called Steele dossier was a fraud.
00:22:21.460 He knew who paid for it.
00:22:22.720 He knew it had been paid for by Hillary Clinton,
00:22:24.940 and he knew it wasn't true, yet he still used it,
00:22:28.760 combined with that false claim that the Russians
00:22:31.760 had conducted an online hack of the Democrat National Committee.
00:22:36.040 When my lawyers at trial, my trial, made it clear that the FBI had never inspected
00:22:43.800 the computer servers of the DNC, a federal prosecutor, Jonathan Kravis,
00:22:50.560 who says his name Kravis, but his name is Kravis,
00:22:53.540 filed a rare surapply, a filing with the court,
00:22:58.000 claiming that the government had additional evidence
00:23:00.980 that the DNC had been hacked by the Russians,
00:23:03.700 but they didn't have to produce it for my trial
00:23:05.980 because of matters of national security.
00:23:08.460 In other words, they had no proof whatsoever.
00:23:11.980 In your particular case, George Aaron Zelensky,
00:23:16.140 another one of the Mueller thugs,
00:23:18.720 according to documents we have both seen,
00:23:21.600 actually altered the FBI's transcript of his interview with you,
00:23:26.840 called a 302, in which they asked you whether you would cooperate
00:23:31.160 in their efforts to locate this mysterious Professor Mifsud,
00:23:36.500 who seemed to be an operative in this whole operation,
00:23:40.200 and you said, of course, you'd be happy to cooperate,
00:23:42.560 but he changed the document to have you say that you didn't.
00:23:45.560 Why has this guy not been prosecuted?
00:23:48.620 Yeah, Roger, this is a very disturbing pattern
00:23:51.000 that we've seen over and over,
00:23:52.280 and it really starts with even Kevin Clinsmith,
00:23:56.220 this FBI lawyer that was altering documents
00:23:59.700 about Carter Page and others,
00:24:02.060 where they were saying that Carter Page
00:24:03.760 was not a CIA helper or CIA informant of some nature,
00:24:09.220 but that he was working with the Russians.
00:24:10.860 It goes to the same situation with you.
00:24:13.200 They were lying, saying that you knew things about hacking,
00:24:15.400 even though there was no evidence
00:24:16.580 that there was ever any hacking,
00:24:18.320 and with this infamous person, Mifsud,
00:24:21.160 absolutely, when the FBI,
00:24:24.500 actually, when I told the FBI about him
00:24:26.940 and said there was this shady guy,
00:24:28.540 you should look into him,
00:24:30.020 that was me overtly trying to cooperate
00:24:33.420 and to let them know that this guy
00:24:35.180 might be up to no good.
00:24:36.960 I don't know what that whole situation was all about,
00:24:39.460 and then what did Zelensky do?
00:24:41.240 While part of the Mueller team,
00:24:43.180 he said, no, Papadopoulos was there
00:24:44.520 to obstruct the investigation.
00:24:46.700 Papadopoulos was there to potentially work
00:24:48.820 with this person, even though we now know,
00:24:51.200 based on numerous fact-finding missions
00:24:53.380 by extremely adequate reporters,
00:24:56.160 that Mifsud was likely part of an operation
00:24:58.160 working with Western intelligence
00:24:59.700 against me and potentially others
00:25:01.940 on the Trump campaign.
00:25:03.420 And Zelensky and others on the Mueller team
00:25:05.200 did what they know best,
00:25:06.660 that is, lie about the truth,
00:25:08.940 cover up the real story.
00:25:10.560 And Roger, just to be quite frank here,
00:25:12.960 I've always said that I thought that Mueller
00:25:14.920 was there to cover up for the egregious misconduct
00:25:17.140 of Comey.
00:25:19.140 So I'm not really surprised that prosecutors
00:25:22.060 like Zelensky, who are tied into the Democrats
00:25:24.680 and big law, did that.
00:25:26.780 What I'm most surprised about
00:25:28.360 is that this information took so long to come out,
00:25:31.560 but we still have other information
00:25:33.100 that we need to come out, Roger.
00:25:35.320 You know, you have people like Special Counsel John Durham
00:25:38.160 say that the so-called predicate
00:25:40.800 that launched Crossfire Hurricane,
00:25:43.080 that launched Mueller, was not correct,
00:25:46.440 that it was illegal and that there was more to the story.
00:25:48.940 We need that information to come out, Roger.
00:25:51.260 We need those files declassified.
00:25:53.300 We need to know what the CIA was up to,
00:25:55.760 what John Brennan was really up to,
00:25:57.700 what all of these stories about honeypots
00:26:00.180 in 2015 were really all about.
00:26:02.960 Because if we don't have the source
00:26:05.060 and the knowledge about that,
00:26:07.680 that went into the fake predicate
00:26:09.380 of Crossfire Hurricane,
00:26:10.640 we'll never have the true story.
00:26:12.740 So that is what I think the next step should be
00:26:15.300 regarding declassification.
00:26:17.180 And that includes John Brennan and others, too.
00:26:19.860 Yeah, it was the same Mueller prosecutor,
00:26:22.060 Aaron Zelensky,
00:26:23.220 who insisted that he and three other prosecutors
00:26:27.140 had been pressured by Maine Justice
00:26:29.620 to, quote-unquote,
00:26:31.140 go easy on Roger Stone in sentencing.
00:26:34.540 But only Zelensky was stupid enough
00:26:36.700 to say that under oath
00:26:37.940 before the House Judiciary Committee
00:26:39.720 because a subsequent investigation
00:26:42.220 by the inspector general
00:26:44.320 of the Justice Department
00:26:45.640 proved that there was no pressure
00:26:48.040 on these prosecutors.
00:26:50.640 They wanted to give me seven to nine years
00:26:53.140 for allegedly lying to Congress,
00:26:56.660 but their sentencing memo said
00:26:58.860 that I had cooperated in foreign interference
00:27:01.860 in an American election,
00:27:03.620 which, of course,
00:27:04.100 I wasn't either charged with or guilty of.
00:27:08.440 So Zelensky perjured himself before Congress.
00:27:12.440 Wait a minute.
00:27:13.280 Isn't that exactly what they charged me with,
00:27:15.880 claimed that I did,
00:27:16.840 even though no misstatement I made to Congress
00:27:19.680 was material?
00:27:20.880 No misstatement I said was willful.
00:27:23.320 There was no Russian collusion.
00:27:25.500 There was no WikiLeaks collaboration.
00:27:27.800 And Robert Mueller knew that,
00:27:30.340 said it in his final report,
00:27:32.020 but then redacted it so I would never know.
00:27:35.740 Judge Amy Berman Jackson,
00:27:38.180 when my lawyers moved for the full Mueller report
00:27:41.980 to be used in my defense,
00:27:43.600 she denied it to us.
00:27:44.740 She said that she would read the report
00:27:47.340 and she would give my lawyers
00:27:49.620 the sections that were relevant to me.
00:27:52.420 Why did she leave out the section
00:27:54.280 in which even Mother could not sugarcoat
00:27:56.220 that he found no evidence of Russian collusion,
00:27:58.900 WikiLeaks collaboration,
00:28:00.080 or, for that matter,
00:28:01.100 any other crime on my part?
00:28:03.220 In other words,
00:28:03.940 she withheld exculpatory evidence
00:28:06.220 from my defense attorneys.
00:28:08.240 Why she hasn't been impeached
00:28:09.720 is yet another adequate and legitimate question.
00:28:14.300 Additionally, George,
00:28:15.400 when we come back,
00:28:17.180 we have a little bit of time here,
00:28:18.340 but when we come back,
00:28:19.120 I do want you to go into your own experience
00:28:21.880 about how they set you up
00:28:24.000 to be used as a pawn
00:28:26.500 in the entire Russian collusion hoax.
00:28:29.400 Let me note that Christopher Steele,
00:28:31.640 the former British intelligence agent
00:28:33.960 who was the author of the so-called Steele dossier,
00:28:38.220 was paid $75,000,
00:28:40.840 but they offered him a $1 million bonus
00:28:44.060 if he could prove that anything
00:28:45.740 he had alleged about Trump was true.
00:28:49.080 And he didn't collect the million dollars
00:28:50.600 because all of it was a lie.
00:28:53.760 It really is disconcerting.
00:28:56.840 I have great confidence in Kash Patel,
00:28:59.000 the FBI director.
00:29:00.000 I have great confidence in Pam Bondi,
00:29:01.640 the attorney general.
00:29:02.840 I know both of them very well.
00:29:05.240 But like many,
00:29:06.800 including our mutual friend,
00:29:08.180 General Flynn and others,
00:29:09.460 we wonder,
00:29:10.720 is anyone going to be held accountable here?
00:29:14.700 The Durham investigation,
00:29:16.240 in my opinion,
00:29:16.800 was yet another hoax.
00:29:18.840 First of all,
00:29:19.260 he took five long years,
00:29:21.740 just long enough
00:29:22.620 for the statute of limitations to run out
00:29:24.680 so that Hillary Clinton
00:29:26.060 and Jake Sullivan
00:29:27.260 and John Podesta
00:29:28.540 and Chip Comey,
00:29:30.560 the FBI director,
00:29:31.680 and John Brennan,
00:29:32.360 the CIA director,
00:29:33.320 just long enough
00:29:34.100 so that they could not be charged.
00:29:35.740 Although I argue that
00:29:37.580 there is no statute of limitations
00:29:39.180 when it comes to treason
00:29:40.880 and that this is treasonous activity.
00:29:44.160 But Durham never inspected
00:29:46.400 or addressed the question
00:29:48.000 of whether the DNC
00:29:49.640 had indeed been hacked
00:29:50.860 by Russian intelligence.
00:29:52.480 My attorneys sent him forensic evidence
00:29:55.400 and made available to him
00:29:57.360 expert witnesses
00:29:58.560 such as former CIA
00:30:00.520 counterintelligence expert,
00:30:02.080 Bill Binney,
00:30:02.620 and he never addressed the question
00:30:06.040 at all in his final report.
00:30:08.180 In retrospect, George,
00:30:09.200 I think that the Durham investigation
00:30:11.320 was a holding action,
00:30:13.360 was an effort to ratchet down
00:30:15.860 the pressure
00:30:16.560 on the Barr Justice Department
00:30:18.740 to investigate
00:30:20.000 and hold those accountable
00:30:21.820 for the Russian collusion hoax
00:30:23.600 for their actions.
00:30:26.200 I think you agree with me on that.
00:30:29.120 Yeah, I think
00:30:30.020 the entire situation
00:30:31.680 with John Durham
00:30:32.400 is that he let a lot of people down,
00:30:34.860 including probably
00:30:35.900 his own professional reputation,
00:30:38.260 because during
00:30:39.340 this infamous exchange
00:30:41.680 that he had
00:30:42.240 with Congressman Matt Gaetz
00:30:43.440 during his testimony
00:30:44.380 to the Judiciary Committee,
00:30:46.380 the congressman told him flat out,
00:30:48.040 you're part of a cover-up,
00:30:49.560 you're not telling the full story,
00:30:51.320 you didn't do
00:30:51.920 what you were supposed to do,
00:30:53.620 and you let down yourself
00:30:55.100 and the American people.
00:30:56.740 And I think the only thing
00:30:58.760 that John Durham accomplished,
00:31:01.060 if you want to call it anything
00:31:02.300 an accomplishment,
00:31:03.160 was that he said
00:31:04.080 that he refutes
00:31:05.480 the official predicate
00:31:06.560 of how the entire thing started
00:31:08.540 and that there was
00:31:09.180 a lot more agencies involved,
00:31:11.640 there were other countries involved,
00:31:13.360 and that the story goes
00:31:15.120 way further back
00:31:16.280 than July of 2016,
00:31:20.200 when apparently
00:31:21.140 Crossfire Hurricane launched.
00:31:22.640 Now, that is all good.
00:31:24.860 However, he didn't give
00:31:26.200 the information
00:31:27.020 of what he actually meant.
00:31:29.140 He basically just
00:31:30.040 left it as a cliffhanger
00:31:31.800 that this happened,
00:31:33.600 but I can't give you
00:31:34.480 the details.
00:31:35.300 Now, if you've investigated
00:31:36.720 a situation like you said
00:31:38.100 for five years,
00:31:39.500 why were you presenting
00:31:40.960 your case in front
00:31:41.840 of the Judiciary Committee
00:31:42.800 and not giving the facts?
00:31:44.680 Is it because things
00:31:45.860 were classified at that moment?
00:31:47.400 Because it was
00:31:47.900 the Biden administration?
00:31:49.700 Was there an actual cover-up?
00:31:51.240 These are questions
00:31:52.260 that we have to understand.
00:31:53.940 Was Crossfire Hurricane
00:31:55.400 basically providing top cover
00:31:58.000 for Comey's off-the-books
00:31:59.740 illegal activities
00:32:00.660 that he initiated
00:32:01.620 before Crossfire Hurricane?
00:32:03.960 These are very important questions,
00:32:06.180 Roger,
00:32:06.440 that we don't have answers to
00:32:08.520 even with the rollout
00:32:10.680 of these files
00:32:11.560 that have come out,
00:32:12.240 over 700 pages
00:32:13.300 of Crossfire Hurricane.
00:32:14.920 So, if Special Counsel
00:32:15.960 John Durham
00:32:16.640 says that the FBI
00:32:19.000 wasn't the only agency
00:32:20.660 involved here
00:32:21.400 and that Crossfire Hurricane
00:32:22.600 isn't the beginning
00:32:23.380 and the end,
00:32:24.360 then we need to start
00:32:25.240 asking these important questions
00:32:26.660 to people like
00:32:27.380 D.N.I. Gabbard
00:32:28.300 and also CIA Director
00:32:30.060 John Ratcliffe
00:32:31.040 and have those files
00:32:33.020 be presented
00:32:33.680 to the Attorney General
00:32:35.240 to see if there are
00:32:36.560 prosecutorial cases
00:32:38.460 that can be made
00:32:39.640 off new evidence
00:32:41.000 that John Durham
00:32:42.060 alluded to.
00:32:43.060 Because if we don't have
00:32:43.820 the full picture here,
00:32:44.900 Roger,
00:32:45.560 if we don't have the facts
00:32:46.720 about really
00:32:47.540 what went into
00:32:48.680 this fake story
00:32:49.540 about hacking
00:32:50.220 that they tried
00:32:51.220 to level against you,
00:32:52.720 about these people
00:32:53.760 like Joseph Mipso
00:32:54.620 that they were
00:32:55.100 throwing at me,
00:32:56.300 about covering up
00:32:57.400 the situation
00:32:59.020 with Christopher Steele
00:33:00.080 and how that went
00:33:00.700 into the FISA files,
00:33:03.860 that we'll never
00:33:04.560 have the truth,
00:33:05.340 no one will be
00:33:05.900 held accountable,
00:33:06.720 and they'll continue
00:33:07.420 to do this over and over
00:33:08.880 and might try to
00:33:10.040 sabotage Trump
00:33:10.760 from within again
00:33:11.520 this time.
00:33:12.440 This can't happen
00:33:13.100 again, Roger.
00:33:13.620 If you're just tuning in,
00:33:15.100 we're talking to
00:33:15.600 George Papadopoulos
00:33:16.500 and we'll be right back.
00:33:18.520 It's the Stone Zone.
00:33:20.520 Here's Roger Stone.
00:33:22.520 And you're back
00:33:23.480 in the Stone Zone.
00:33:24.420 We're talking to
00:33:25.220 former Trump
00:33:26.540 foreign policy advisor
00:33:28.060 George Papadopoulos.
00:33:30.300 George,
00:33:30.580 I want to shift gears here
00:33:31.920 because politics
00:33:32.700 is always about the future,
00:33:34.160 never about the past,
00:33:35.340 even though I think
00:33:36.600 we and many of those
00:33:38.480 in the MAGA movement
00:33:39.380 want to know
00:33:40.480 exactly what happened
00:33:41.380 in the Russian collusion hoax
00:33:42.500 and those who should
00:33:43.960 be held accountable
00:33:44.800 should be prosecuted.
00:33:46.220 How do you think
00:33:47.300 President Trump
00:33:47.900 is doing
00:33:48.520 in this new term?
00:33:51.160 I think President Trump
00:33:52.620 learned many lessons
00:33:53.600 from his first term
00:33:54.600 and the most important
00:33:56.100 is that personnel
00:33:57.020 is policy
00:33:58.060 and by that
00:33:58.940 he's appointed
00:34:00.040 patriotic Americans,
00:34:01.760 constitutionalists,
00:34:02.740 and people who are there
00:34:03.520 to serve the American people
00:34:04.920 and not to grift
00:34:06.380 or undermine
00:34:07.220 the America First movement.
00:34:09.280 During his first term,
00:34:10.300 of course,
00:34:10.840 people say,
00:34:12.020 oh,
00:34:12.240 you had the Republicans
00:34:13.120 have controlling Congress.
00:34:15.320 That was not the case.
00:34:16.420 Actually,
00:34:16.840 the Mueller situation
00:34:17.840 and so many of these rhinos
00:34:19.720 subverted the America First movement
00:34:22.080 from within,
00:34:22.800 prevented him from enacting
00:34:24.140 many of his policy proposals
00:34:26.180 and legislation.
00:34:28.540 This time around,
00:34:29.700 people like Howard Lutnick,
00:34:31.520 Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
00:34:34.160 Treasury Secretary Besson,
00:34:35.560 everybody is on the same page
00:34:37.620 and in tandem
00:34:38.820 with the series
00:34:39.740 of executive orders
00:34:40.720 that the president
00:34:41.940 has signed,
00:34:42.900 you understand
00:34:43.780 why now the border
00:34:44.920 is finally secure,
00:34:46.360 why the American economy
00:34:47.720 is once again
00:34:48.720 on the right path
00:34:49.680 and World War III
00:34:51.080 has been prevented.
00:34:52.520 These three issues
00:34:53.980 were critical
00:34:55.220 to this past election
00:34:56.480 and I haven't even,
00:34:57.140 and we just discussed,
00:34:58.000 of course,
00:34:58.220 the weaponization
00:34:58.840 of government.
00:34:59.800 That's the fourth element
00:35:01.960 to why I think
00:35:02.720 President Trump
00:35:03.360 had this resounding victory
00:35:04.600 and he is enacting
00:35:06.320 on all of these key pillars
00:35:08.440 and he's making
00:35:09.460 the right moves
00:35:10.380 with the right people
00:35:11.640 at the right time
00:35:12.960 to make sure
00:35:13.960 that he is a successful president
00:35:15.540 and his vision
00:35:17.120 is implemented
00:35:18.160 and that's exactly
00:35:19.120 what's going on
00:35:19.920 and I think we're all
00:35:20.740 going to be a lot richer
00:35:21.740 and a lot safer
00:35:23.080 and we're going to be
00:35:24.340 functioning as a true republic
00:35:25.820 with the rule of law
00:35:26.960 during this administration
00:35:28.360 and hopefully moving
00:35:29.260 into the future
00:35:29.920 now that President Trump
00:35:31.000 has enacted the policies
00:35:33.080 the way he has begun.
00:35:34.600 Yeah, I could not agree more.
00:35:37.180 I mean, ironically,
00:35:38.120 I think he was still
00:35:39.480 a great president
00:35:40.300 in his first term
00:35:41.140 despite the fact
00:35:41.940 that many of the people
00:35:42.920 that he appointed
00:35:44.500 thought their job
00:35:45.380 was to delay
00:35:46.400 or derail his agenda.
00:35:49.620 Yet he gave us
00:35:50.760 a boom economy,
00:35:52.220 rebuilt our military strength,
00:35:54.220 appointed scores
00:35:55.520 of conservatives
00:35:56.380 to the courts,
00:35:57.640 sealed our southern border.
00:35:59.520 He was a truly
00:36:00.420 great president.
00:36:01.680 I think, however,
00:36:03.140 having sat out
00:36:04.160 one term
00:36:04.940 and returned,
00:36:06.640 having gone through
00:36:07.560 the crucible
00:36:08.280 of the tsunami
00:36:09.380 of lawfare
00:36:10.220 and seen firsthand
00:36:11.740 the viciousness
00:36:12.820 and the dishonesty
00:36:13.900 of the political establishment,
00:36:16.280 he is a battle-hardened
00:36:18.180 leader now.
00:36:19.600 He is so much
00:36:20.620 better prepared
00:36:21.860 for this new term.
00:36:23.420 And I predict,
00:36:25.100 yet again,
00:36:25.780 a golden age,
00:36:27.220 an unprecedented age
00:36:28.520 of peace,
00:36:29.600 prosperity,
00:36:30.700 security,
00:36:31.300 justice,
00:36:32.020 and law and order.
00:36:34.120 I was with him
00:36:34.840 Friday night
00:36:35.720 for dinner,
00:36:36.520 saw him the following morning
00:36:37.680 at breakfast.
00:36:38.960 He is calm,
00:36:40.680 he is happy,
00:36:41.740 he is serene,
00:36:42.960 and above all,
00:36:43.740 he is confident
00:36:44.480 that he has
00:36:45.400 the game plan
00:36:46.460 to make America
00:36:47.700 truly great again.
00:36:50.140 Thank you so much
00:36:50.920 for joining us here
00:36:51.600 in the Stone Zone.
00:36:52.360 Until we meet again,
00:36:53.520 God bless you
00:36:54.280 and Godspeed.
00:36:55.520 We'll be right back.
00:37:25.520 We'll be right back.