The StoneZONE with Roger Stone

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:06.120 Welcome. You are entering the Stone Zone, the hottest political commentary show on radio today.

00:00:13.240 Here we tell you the stone-cold truth, and we give it to you straight.

00:00:18.100 Well, after Rhino Tom Tillis, the Republican U.S. Senator from North Carolina, 0.93

00:00:25.680 torpedoed the nomination of D.C. interim U.S. attorney Ed Martin,

00:00:32.060 President Donald Trump came back with a strong choice.

00:00:35.280 My colleague here at 77WABC, Judge Jeanine Pirro, a former tough prosecutor,

00:00:43.680 will serve as the interim U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia.

00:00:48.480 Those Democrats who were high-fiving each other may want to think again

00:00:53.220 because Jeanine Pirro was both a tough prosecutor and a tough judge. 0.97

00:00:58.920 On True Social, President Trump said,

00:01:01.420 I am pleased to announce that Judge Jeanine Pirro will appoint interim U.S. attorney

00:01:05.940 for the District of Columbia.

00:01:07.500 Jeanine was assistant district attorney for Westchester County, New York,

00:01:11.420 and then went on to serve as a county judge and district attorney,

00:01:14.880 where she was the first woman to ever be selected to those positions.

00:01:18.700 During her time in office, Jeanine Pirro was a powerful crusader for victims of crime.

00:01:25.960 Her establishment of the Domestic Violence Bureau and her prosecutor's office was the first in the nation.

00:01:32.480 She excelled in all ways.

00:01:34.160 In addition to her legal career, she's continued hosting her own show at Fox,

00:01:38.660 as well as at 77 WABC in New York.

00:01:43.240 Justice with Jeanine Pirro is a popular show,

00:01:47.100 and of course, occasionally co-hosting The Five,

00:01:50.020 one of the highest-rating shows on television.

00:01:53.040 Jeanine Pirro is incredibly well-qualified for this position,

00:01:56.560 is considered one of the top district attorneys in history of the state of New York.

00:02:01.740 She's in a class by herself.

00:02:03.480 Indeed, I've known her for over 25 years, and she is.

00:02:07.560 The selection comes after Attorney Ed Martin's appointment was blocked, as I say,

00:02:13.520 in the Senate by Rhino Tom Tillis of North Carolina.

00:02:17.620 Now, I think it is vital that President Trump foster a primary challenge to Tillis,

00:02:26.000 particularly in the first two years of his new term.

00:02:30.600 It's essential from a political point of view that the president signal those of his own party

00:02:37.320 that he is the party leader, and he expects those who are elected largely,

00:02:42.780 in many cases, on his coattails, need to support his agenda.

00:02:47.980 Turning around immediately, President Trump, in a very savvy move,

00:02:54.060 gave Ed Martin a new and perhaps even more powerful office to run.

00:02:59.060 Ed Martin has done an amazing job as the interim U.S. attorney and will now be moving to the Department of Justice

00:03:06.380 as the new director of the Weaponization Working Group,

00:03:11.260 also Associate Deputy Attorney General and a pardon attorney, the president announced.

00:03:17.120 In these highly important jobs, Ed Martin will be sure we finally investigate the weaponization of our government

00:03:23.400 under the Biden and Obama regimes and provide needed justice for its victims.

00:03:30.080 I have a personal interest in this because, well, they tried to destroy my life in the Russian collusion hoax,

00:03:37.700 and we now know that that was perhaps the greatest single abuse of power

00:03:43.680 in American political and governmental history.

00:03:47.000 It was nothing less than the full use of the authority of the United States government

00:03:53.960 and the extraordinary capabilities of our intelligence agencies,

00:03:59.140 utilizing what we now know were two completely fabricated pieces of evidence,

00:04:04.360 the so-called Steele dossier.

00:04:07.400 That was actually commissioned and paid for by Hillary Clinton's campaign. 0.85

00:04:12.540 They laundered the bills through a law firm to hide their involvement,

00:04:17.260 but the allegations against President Donald Trump that he had dallied with prostitutes in Moscow

00:04:23.820 when visiting as a private businessman were completely and totally fabricated.

00:04:29.600 Also fabricated was the claim that the Russians hacked the Democrat National Committee

00:04:36.300 and somehow gave that information through the Trump campaign to WikiLeaks for dissemination.

00:04:44.340 It was at my trial, actually, that the FBI was forced to admit

00:04:48.600 that they never actually examined the computer servers at the Democrat National Committee.

00:04:55.860 And when pressed to produce evidence of my trial that this hacking had actually taken place,

00:05:03.160 my lawyers were told, well, that was a matter of national security.

00:05:08.500 Later, however, when the head of CrowdStrikes,

00:05:12.200 that's the left-wing Democrat IT firm

00:05:16.020 who was coming to theoretically examine the computer servers,

00:05:20.780 this fellow, Sean Henry,

00:05:22.740 who just coincidentally happened to be a former deputy

00:05:27.140 of former FBI director Robert Mueller,

00:05:30.520 who was heading this witch hunt,

00:05:32.840 testified under oath before the House Intelligence Committee,

00:05:36.780 he admitted that his famous report,

00:05:40.360 which, by the way, the judge withheld from my defense attorneys at my own trial,

00:05:45.920 had no evidence whatsoever that the Russians had ever hacked the DNC.

00:05:52.740 So now you have a situation in which Ed Martin

00:05:56.200 will be able to examine not only the Russian collusion hoax

00:06:01.700 and the role of not only President Barack Obama,

00:06:05.180 but Vice President Joe Biden,

00:06:08.240 the FBI director James Comey,

00:06:11.080 the CIA director John Brennan,

00:06:14.480 the deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe,

00:06:18.880 the national security advisor Susan Rice,

00:06:21.760 all of whom I would argue could realistically be charged with treason,

00:06:28.200 but he'll also be able to look at the so-called Ukrainian impeachment hoax

00:06:34.880 that was completely cooked up by Congressman,

00:06:38.300 now Senator Adam Schiff,

00:06:40.360 and the Venman brothers,

00:06:42.500 one of them who's now in Congress,

00:06:44.280 both of whom should be in jail.

00:06:46.180 This strikes fear into the hearts of the radical left, I assure you.

00:06:52.340 So Ed Martin has now moved a little higher up in the hierarchy of the Department of Justice,

00:06:58.200 and perhaps, just perhaps, we're finally going to get justice.

00:07:02.320 Only yesterday, Attorney General Pam Bondi made it very clear

00:07:07.540 that the FBI is indeed going through literally thousands of videotapes of Jeffrey Epstein

00:07:16.060 and his well-heeled clients

00:07:19.540 and, unfortunately, thousands of victims,

00:07:23.760 which the Attorney General says are overwhelmingly children underage.

00:07:29.940 It's nauseating.

00:07:30.920 Now, I don't expect those videos to be released

00:07:35.300 because they would be both graphic and pornographic.

00:07:39.920 I do believe that there's going to be justice served

00:07:43.780 as we learn who Jeffrey Epstein's wealthy, powerful clients were.

00:07:49.740 Who was it that he was providing underage playmates for?

00:07:55.580 It's nauseating.

00:07:57.100 I covered all of this in my 2015 book,

00:08:00.840 The Clinton's War on Women,

00:08:02.720 but I still get to read online that people say,

00:08:06.860 oh, Roger Stone, he visited Epstein's Island.

00:08:11.500 We know it was him.

00:08:12.760 He was wearing a bull mask,

00:08:14.560 and we could tell by that Nixon tattoo on his back.

00:08:18.180 By the way, anybody who wants to say that

00:08:20.360 and put their name on it,

00:08:22.180 well, yeah, I'll see you in court.

00:08:24.460 Now, there's a very high barrier for defamation in this country.

00:08:28.020 It's unfortunate if you're a public figure,

00:08:31.060 and I guess I am.

00:08:33.160 Unfortunately, just about anybody can say

00:08:35.640 just about anything they want about you.

00:08:39.240 But accusing me of pedophilia,

00:08:41.440 yeah, that crosses a line.

00:08:43.660 It's interesting to me how the people who fling this

00:08:46.520 always do so anonymously.

00:08:49.080 It is outrageous,

00:08:53.080 but I lay it out there for all to see.

00:08:55.400 If you want to say that and put your name on it,

00:08:57.060 well, I will sue you in a heartbeat.

00:08:59.980 In the meantime, the Democrats have no frontrunner,

00:09:03.420 or their frontrunner is a nightmare hiding in plain sight.

00:09:07.780 Democrats have three years to organize

00:09:10.080 and not a second to waste,

00:09:12.000 but they don't seem to be able to resist the temptation

00:09:15.300 to return back to the future.

00:09:17.700 It's true they offered voters not one,

00:09:20.840 but two of the worst presidential

00:09:23.280 and vice presidential candidates

00:09:24.860 in the history of American politics.

00:09:27.620 Of course, they got saddled with Tim Walsh

00:09:30.880 when Barack Obama vetoed the selection of Josh Shapiro,

00:09:35.780 the governor of Pennsylvania,

00:09:37.720 thought to be the original frontrunner.

00:09:40.360 But Obama evidently decided

00:09:42.680 that they would lose the Muslim American votes

00:09:46.520 in Michigan and Minnesota

00:09:48.600 had they chosen the Jewish candidate Shapiro.

00:09:52.740 In retrospect, they needed Pennsylvania,

00:09:55.160 which they also lost.

00:09:56.800 Shapiro might, might have brought them that,

00:09:59.600 but by playing ethnic and religious politics,

00:10:03.600 they came up with the wackiest candidate

00:10:05.660 for vice president in the history of either party.

00:10:09.400 That guy, as you recall, lied about his military service,

00:10:14.180 lied about seeing combat.

00:10:16.180 He even lied about being a basketball coach,

00:10:19.940 the worst candidate of all time.

00:10:22.700 But Kamala Harris, don't think that she's done,

00:10:26.740 despite her cackle and her affection for Venn diagrams

00:10:31.700 and her inability to express any coherent thought,

00:10:36.760 she still garnered almost 70 million votes.

00:10:41.580 Now, imagine the power of a Democrat nominee

00:10:43.640 who could actually string together an intelligible sentence.

00:10:47.400 There's no one prominent Democrat

00:10:49.600 as proved capable of doing so,

00:10:51.300 at least with more regularity than Harris.

00:10:54.480 She has all the unwritten qualifications 0.76

00:10:56.520 of a progressive nominee to non-male, non-white,

00:10:59.860 adept lapsing into an accent

00:11:02.040 at the constituency of the day.

00:11:04.020 She has name recognition, fundraising capability,

00:11:06.900 above all those particular constituencies,

00:11:09.780 a bit of star power.

00:11:12.020 Yes, I speak, of course, of Congresswoman

00:11:14.420 Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York.

00:11:19.660 I predict to you that she, not Kamala Harris,

00:11:23.080 will make a presidential bid in 2028.

00:11:25.620 The recent clearest indicators yet

00:11:28.880 of her unannounced ambitions

00:11:30.260 seem to be this tour that she's on with Bernie Sanders.

00:11:34.920 She herself said recently,

00:11:37.900 it's actually clear to me that the underlying dynamics

00:11:40.600 in the caucus have not shifted with respect to seniority

00:11:44.200 as much as I think would be necessary.

00:11:46.240 So I'll believe I'll be staying put in the House.

00:11:49.660 Well, that means she's not running for the Senate,

00:11:51.800 meaning she's not challenging Chuck Schumer.

00:11:54.500 It's hard to believe that she could give Schumer

00:11:57.340 a true run for his money.

00:11:59.540 That's how far left New York's Democrat primary has gone.

00:12:04.140 But if AOC chooses to be a candidate, folks, don't laugh.

00:12:08.820 She has to be taken seriously.

00:12:11.440 Despite the fact that I don't like her views,

00:12:14.060 and I think that she's somehow, sometimes pretty wacky

00:12:17.600 in the way she expresses them,

00:12:19.880 she does have star power, she does have charisma, 1.00

00:12:23.420 and yes, she could harvest millions and millions 0.87

00:12:26.880 of small donations from the hard left.

00:12:31.500 This comes as good news also,

00:12:35.120 as Democrat Representative Jasmine Crockett of Texas

00:12:38.860 evidently may also be interested in the position.

00:12:41.620 Now, perhaps an AOC Crockett ticket

00:12:47.260 is more than Republicans can wish for.

00:12:50.680 Crockett really is out in left field.

00:12:55.020 She's actually advocated violence on numerous occasions,

00:12:59.400 I think crossing a line.

00:13:01.820 If the Democrats should take control of the House

00:13:05.160 in two years, of course,

00:13:06.520 both their positions would be enhanced.

00:13:08.860 I'm praying that doesn't happen.

00:13:11.320 But an AOC Jasmine Crockett ticket for 2028?

00:13:17.620 Well, I mean, Bernie Sanders on his tour

00:13:21.380 seems a little long in the tooth for the nomination.

00:13:24.580 So if I have to guess right now,

00:13:26.520 I'm betting on an AOC Crockett ticket.

00:13:30.200 And I have to admit, Republicans could do no better.

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00:15:41.140 And we're back in the Stone Zone.

00:15:43.600 The U.S. Department of Justice

00:15:45.480 has opened a criminal investigation

00:15:47.500 into what appears to be serial mortgage fraud

00:15:51.420 over a almost 40-year period

00:15:53.980 by New York Attorney General Letitia James.

00:15:56.680 One of Ms. James' constituents

00:15:59.960 confronted her only last night.

00:16:03.260 Take a listen.

00:16:04.280 My question is for Tush James.

00:16:07.080 Will you apologize to President Trump

00:16:09.140 for wasting millions of dollars

00:16:11.160 and the state of New York for a witch trial?

00:16:13.780 And how does it feel to know

00:16:16.020 that you will be in prison for mortgage fraud?

00:16:26.380 Thank you for coming.

00:16:27.720 We want to thank him for coming.

00:16:38.820 We respect all opinions.

00:16:41.080 Everybody knows those allegations are baseless.

00:16:45.060 They're discredited.

00:16:47.240 And so we want to thank him.

00:16:49.620 Our next speaker.

00:16:51.620 Yeah, unfortunately for the Attorney General,

00:16:54.400 the allegations are neither baseless

00:16:57.340 nor are they discredited

00:16:59.060 unless, of course, you count

00:17:00.180 the New York Daily News editorial board,

00:17:03.100 which is literally a newspaper

00:17:04.840 that no one is reading.

00:17:06.880 I guess the Albany Times Union,

00:17:09.120 another newspaper no one reads.

00:17:11.320 I've actually looked at the underlying documents.

00:17:14.100 I think that the Attorney General is busted.

00:17:17.480 In addition, we now know that a grand jury

00:17:20.140 in the Eastern District of Virginia

00:17:21.880 sent out subpoenas

00:17:23.500 as related to the accusations

00:17:25.120 that James misrepresented

00:17:27.240 a single-family home in Virginia

00:17:29.420 as her primary residence,

00:17:32.540 in other words, to be owner-occupied,

00:17:34.720 in order to obtain more favorable loan terms.

00:17:38.700 You see, one cannot be,

00:17:40.320 under the New York State Constitution,

00:17:42.400 the Attorney General of New York

00:17:44.480 and reside, as she said she would,

00:17:47.460 under oath in Virginia.

00:17:49.860 News of this criminal probe

00:17:51.320 and the grand jury follows a criminal referral

00:17:54.200 from the Trump administration's

00:17:55.780 Federal Housing Finance Agency director,

00:17:58.600 William Pulte,

00:17:59.560 who requested that the Department of Justice

00:18:01.820 investigate James

00:18:02.900 for both fraud in Virginia

00:18:04.640 and another incident

00:18:05.820 in which he misrepresented

00:18:07.400 the number of livable units

00:18:09.060 in a multifamily Brooklyn house

00:18:11.440 to once again fraudulently obtain

00:18:14.320 better loan terms.

00:18:15.800 James has retained noted defense attorney

00:18:19.280 Abby Lowell,

00:18:21.160 but evidently his bill

00:18:22.800 is now going to be paid for

00:18:24.120 not by Letitia James,

00:18:26.260 but based on a new bill

00:18:27.560 in the legislature

00:18:28.180 by the taxpayers of New York,

00:18:30.420 claiming,

00:18:31.260 because James is saying,

00:18:33.540 the charges against her

00:18:34.600 appear to be political.

00:18:36.180 While the charges against

00:18:37.720 President Donald Trump

00:18:39.020 were political,

00:18:40.180 by the way,

00:18:40.720 the appeals court

00:18:42.040 has already indicated

00:18:43.080 they are likely

00:18:43.820 to overturn that conviction.

00:18:46.100 In fact,

00:18:46.700 the esteemed law professor

00:18:47.980 Jonathan Turley

00:18:49.060 called out

00:18:50.020 the breathtaking irony

00:18:51.460 of the New York

00:18:53.080 Attorney General's

00:18:54.180 legal defense.

00:18:55.860 Karma is crushing here.

00:18:57.340 It's the greatest irony,

00:18:58.460 of course,

00:18:59.100 to hear her counsel

00:19:00.060 and her spokesperson say,

00:19:01.700 this is just wrong

00:19:03.060 because Trump campaigned

00:19:04.380 on against moving

00:19:05.460 against his enemies.

00:19:07.000 Who can forget

00:19:08.000 the fact that

00:19:08.700 Letitia James herself

00:19:10.180 said during her campaign

00:19:11.880 for Attorney General,

00:19:12.900 one of the principal reasons

00:19:14.060 that voters should elect her

00:19:16.440 is that she would

00:19:17.320 get Donald Trump.

00:19:19.240 This, of course,

00:19:19.860 was before she had

00:19:20.780 any evidence of a crime

00:19:22.720 by Donald Trump,

00:19:23.780 so she had to go out

00:19:25.060 and manufacture one.

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00:19:42.860 Welcome back.

00:19:44.100 You're back in the Stone Zone.

00:19:45.880 Yesterday,

00:19:46.680 in the Stone Zone,

00:19:47.900 I interviewed

00:19:48.500 Callie Means.

00:19:50.440 His sister,

00:19:52.020 Dr. Casey Means,

00:19:53.460 was appointed

00:19:55.040 Surgeon General

00:19:56.120 of the United States

00:19:57.220 yesterday.

00:19:58.820 And their book,

00:20:00.800 which is entitled

00:20:01.620 Good Energy,

00:20:02.640 The Surprising Connection

00:20:03.780 Between Metabolism

00:20:05.360 and Limitless Health,

00:20:06.720 which I read about

00:20:07.900 two years ago,

00:20:09.440 changed my life

00:20:10.560 in a very big way.

00:20:12.000 It changed everything

00:20:13.000 about my diet

00:20:14.020 and a lot

00:20:15.140 about my lifestyle.

00:20:16.760 But the man

00:20:17.660 I want to interview

00:20:19.060 and bring on now

00:20:20.220 changed my life

00:20:21.120 in a far

00:20:21.760 more profound way.

00:20:23.600 That is

00:20:24.160 my good friend,

00:20:25.560 Pastor Randy Coggins,

00:20:27.220 Randy Coggins II.

00:20:29.720 Now,

00:20:30.060 Randy and his wife,

00:20:31.060 Carrie,

00:20:31.340 seem to have a kid

00:20:32.300 every time I turn around.

00:20:33.540 He's a growing family.

00:20:35.380 He is an incredibly

00:20:36.780 effective apostle

00:20:38.140 for the Lord.

00:20:40.200 And back when I was

00:20:42.700 going through

00:20:43.560 the tribulation

00:20:46.160 of the Russian collusion hoax

00:20:48.040 in which I was put through

00:20:49.680 a Soviet-style show trial,

00:20:51.820 despite the fact

00:20:52.680 that I had actually

00:20:53.640 done nothing wrong,

00:20:55.120 I was being prosecuted

00:20:56.660 because essentially

00:20:58.400 I refused to bear

00:20:59.960 false witness

00:21:00.880 against my friend

00:21:02.260 of now 50 years,

00:21:03.640 Donald Trump.

00:21:05.220 It was a very

00:21:06.720 trying time

00:21:07.620 for me

00:21:08.500 and my family.

00:21:10.740 I admit to you

00:21:11.580 that time came

00:21:12.860 when I realized

00:21:14.700 that I would not

00:21:15.660 get a fair trial,

00:21:17.200 that I was going

00:21:18.700 to be both

00:21:19.400 unconstitutionally gagged

00:21:21.420 so I couldn't even

00:21:22.580 defend myself,

00:21:23.640 but also lynched

00:21:25.100 by a hateful judge,

00:21:27.960 a biased jury

00:21:29.900 forewoman

00:21:31.160 and a rigged

00:21:32.760 D.C. jury.

00:21:34.240 That's not conjecture,

00:21:35.380 by the way.

00:21:35.820 That was actually

00:21:36.620 proven.

00:21:37.720 We learned that

00:21:38.580 the jury forewoman

00:21:40.020 in my trial

00:21:40.860 who said during

00:21:42.360 jury selection

00:21:43.320 and the trial

00:21:44.280 she knew nothing

00:21:45.040 about me,

00:21:45.640 never heard of me,

00:21:46.360 wasn't familiar

00:21:47.280 with the case.

00:21:48.040 In fact,

00:21:48.780 she'd been attacking 0.92

00:21:49.700 me and President Trump

00:21:51.560 by name

00:21:52.300 on both her Twitter

00:21:53.580 and her Facebook pages

00:21:55.360 for a full year,

00:21:57.280 19 months actually

00:21:58.560 before she was selected

00:22:00.300 as a juror

00:22:01.440 and the jury forewoman 0.70

00:22:02.440 in my trial,

00:22:03.260 but she had those

00:22:04.460 attacks on me

00:22:05.340 by name

00:22:06.060 regarding the very case

00:22:07.920 in which she was selected

00:22:09.040 on a private setting,

00:22:11.640 so my lawyers

00:22:14.000 in due diligence

00:22:14.980 could not find them.

00:22:16.020 In any event,

00:22:17.260 time came when I

00:22:18.480 hit rock bottom

00:22:19.800 and it was

00:22:21.280 Pastor Randy Coggins

00:22:23.000 who relentlessly

00:22:25.240 urged me to turn

00:22:26.440 my burden

00:22:27.460 over to the Lord.

00:22:29.200 It was

00:22:29.800 Pastor Randy Coggins

00:22:31.500 who arranged

00:22:32.360 the meeting

00:22:32.900 with Reverend

00:22:34.180 Franklin Graham

00:22:35.280 that really did

00:22:37.360 change my life.

00:22:38.960 Up until that time,

00:22:40.940 many, many

00:22:41.740 pastors,

00:22:43.360 priests,

00:22:44.160 rabbis,

00:22:44.740 and other clerics

00:22:45.640 were urging me

00:22:46.980 to change my life,

00:22:49.160 to turn this horrific

00:22:50.160 burden and stress

00:22:51.900 over to the Lord,

00:22:53.200 but I wasn't

00:22:54.360 feeling it,

00:22:55.020 I wasn't hearing it.

00:22:56.480 That was until

00:22:57.280 Randy Coggins

00:22:58.240 set up this

00:22:59.640 fateful meeting

00:23:00.580 with Reverend

00:23:01.700 Franklin Graham

00:23:02.640 and of course

00:23:04.280 I was still

00:23:04.860 thinking politically.

00:23:06.080 I said,

00:23:07.360 you know,

00:23:08.020 Pastor Graham,

00:23:09.780 I really think

00:23:11.220 that I'm going

00:23:12.200 to be destroyed here, 0.62

00:23:14.100 that I'm going 0.99

00:23:14.380 to be lynched,

00:23:15.380 and I wondered

00:23:15.780 if you could put

00:23:16.540 in a good word

00:23:17.460 for me

00:23:17.980 with the President

00:23:19.580 regarding

00:23:20.180 executive clemency

00:23:21.340 since my lawyers

00:23:22.640 would no longer

00:23:23.380 let me talk

00:23:24.100 to Donald Trump,

00:23:25.620 nor would

00:23:26.820 Donald Trump's

00:23:27.760 lawyers let him

00:23:29.340 talk to me.

00:23:31.040 And Franklin Graham

00:23:32.880 said,

00:23:33.960 well,

00:23:34.640 I'll see what

00:23:35.880 I can do about that,

00:23:36.700 but let me give you

00:23:37.300 a much better

00:23:38.440 piece of advice.

00:23:39.340 You need to turn

00:23:39.960 your burden

00:23:41.100 over to the Lord.

00:23:43.260 You need to confess

00:23:44.660 your sins

00:23:45.400 and get right

00:23:45.960 with God,

00:23:46.720 and I guarantee you,

00:23:47.700 he said,

00:23:48.500 Randy Coggins

00:23:49.300 was there,

00:23:49.780 I guarantee you,

00:23:50.580 the Lord will

00:23:51.000 lift you up,

00:23:52.040 he will deliver

00:23:52.900 you from your

00:23:54.160 persecutors.

00:23:55.600 And then Randy

00:23:56.880 Coggins and I

00:23:57.660 went out into

00:23:58.260 this open field

00:23:59.320 with several

00:24:00.580 thousand other

00:24:01.460 Christians,

00:24:02.240 and the time

00:24:03.220 came in his

00:24:04.520 oration

00:24:06.120 that Pastor Graham

00:24:08.260 said,

00:24:08.840 Reverend Graham

00:24:09.420 said,

00:24:09.860 I don't care

00:24:10.260 whether your

00:24:10.540 problem is

00:24:11.100 alcoholism,

00:24:12.680 or gambling

00:24:13.960 addiction,

00:24:14.720 or drug addiction,

00:24:15.760 or family problems,

00:24:16.720 or health problems,

00:24:18.180 or financial

00:24:19.640 problems.

00:24:20.700 If you turn

00:24:21.580 your burden

00:24:21.980 over to the Lord,

00:24:22.780 if you confess

00:24:23.340 your sins,

00:24:24.000 get right with

00:24:24.520 God,

00:24:24.880 the Lord will

00:24:25.520 lift you up.

00:24:26.920 And those who

00:24:27.700 want to live

00:24:28.380 with our

00:24:28.740 Heavenly Father

00:24:29.480 forever,

00:24:30.460 rise now,

00:24:32.000 and along

00:24:33.440 with me,

00:24:34.100 confess your sins,

00:24:35.540 and you will

00:24:36.220 be saved.

00:24:36.860 And in that

00:24:37.360 moment,

00:24:39.060 thanks to the

00:24:39.700 urgings of Randy

00:24:40.560 Coggins and

00:24:41.700 to Franklin Graham,

00:24:42.820 I stood in an

00:24:43.660 open field with

00:24:44.560 200,

00:24:45.620 300 other

00:24:46.600 Christians,

00:24:47.240 I confessed my

00:24:48.020 sins,

00:24:48.460 and everything

00:24:49.240 in my life

00:24:49.960 changed.

00:24:50.880 And I was,

00:24:51.640 of course,

00:24:52.060 delivered from

00:24:52.800 my persecutors,

00:24:54.120 ultimately,

00:24:55.100 after going

00:24:55.780 through hell

00:24:56.440 in a D.C.

00:24:58.120 rigged trial.

00:24:59.480 But when

00:25:00.260 President Donald

00:25:01.020 Trump understood

00:25:02.660 that I was being

00:25:04.200 persecuted and

00:25:05.400 prosecuted simply

00:25:06.620 because of my

00:25:07.320 refusal to lie

00:25:08.720 and bear false

00:25:10.040 witness against

00:25:10.620 him, 0.99

00:25:11.080 he cumulated 0.99

00:25:11.740 my sentence 0.96

00:25:12.460 and later

00:25:13.960 gave me a

00:25:14.720 full and

00:25:15.280 unconditional

00:25:16.060 pardon,

00:25:17.300 Christmas of

00:25:18.120 2020.

00:25:21.320 Pastor Randy

00:25:22.100 Coggins,

00:25:22.680 God bless you

00:25:23.320 and welcome

00:25:23.800 to the Stone

00:25:24.940 Zone.

00:25:26.200 Roger,

00:25:26.720 thank you so

00:25:27.260 much.

00:25:27.540 It's an honor

00:25:27.940 to be back

00:25:28.560 and I'm

00:25:30.240 grateful to

00:25:31.440 have a small

00:25:32.000 part of what

00:25:33.280 God has done

00:25:34.080 in your life

00:25:35.300 for sure.

00:25:35.680 So thank you

00:25:36.100 for having me

00:25:36.580 on the Stone

00:25:37.060 Zone today.

00:25:37.500 I appreciate it.

00:25:38.600 Yeah,

00:25:38.840 it's amazing to

00:25:39.740 me,

00:25:40.040 and I've told

00:25:40.820 that story again,

00:25:41.800 of course,

00:25:42.220 because we have

00:25:42.800 a limited amount

00:25:43.400 of time here,

00:25:44.000 I gave the

00:25:44.460 shortened version

00:25:45.240 of it,

00:25:45.700 but you were

00:25:46.180 relentless,

00:25:47.320 just relentless

00:25:48.220 in urging me

00:25:49.760 to take refuge

00:25:50.580 in the Lord

00:25:51.220 and turn my

00:25:51.940 burden over

00:25:52.380 to the Lord.

00:25:53.180 I don't know

00:25:54.060 that I would

00:25:54.700 have ultimately

00:25:55.300 done that,

00:25:55.900 but when I

00:25:57.540 came out publicly

00:25:58.500 and announced

00:25:59.860 that I'd had

00:26:00.540 this change

00:26:01.120 in my life,

00:26:02.700 Washington Monthly

00:26:04.360 mocked me.

00:26:06.620 I mean,

00:26:06.960 they mocked me,

00:26:09.160 said this is

00:26:09.640 some kind of

00:26:10.300 a head fake,

00:26:11.820 this is some

00:26:12.340 kind of an act,

00:26:13.280 this is some

00:26:13.760 kind of a

00:26:14.380 public appeal

00:26:15.580 for sympathy,

00:26:16.840 so I've said

00:26:17.340 many times,

00:26:18.000 I don't really

00:26:18.420 care what they

00:26:19.280 think,

00:26:19.680 I only care

00:26:20.300 what he

00:26:21.440 thinks,

00:26:22.800 and it is

00:26:24.520 a blessing,

00:26:26.280 you are a

00:26:26.820 blessing.

00:26:27.540 How many

00:26:28.000 children do

00:26:28.480 you have now?

00:26:29.820 We have four,

00:26:30.740 we have four

00:26:31.420 now,

00:26:32.060 four children

00:26:32.620 now,

00:26:33.240 the oldest

00:26:34.020 is nine,

00:26:35.060 and the youngest

00:26:35.500 is one,

00:26:36.900 and then,

00:26:37.900 but to go back

00:26:39.040 on what you

00:26:39.360 were saying,

00:26:39.920 though,

00:26:40.480 it's amazing

00:26:41.440 how none

00:26:41.880 of this was

00:26:42.300 planned as

00:26:43.100 far as me

00:26:44.560 and you,

00:26:45.460 our connection,

00:26:46.560 relationship,

00:26:47.620 what God's

00:26:48.120 done in your

00:26:48.500 life.

00:26:49.380 I was sitting

00:26:50.360 in Miami,

00:26:51.080 Florida,

00:26:52.040 at my wife's

00:26:54.480 grandparents'

00:26:55.180 home the

00:26:56.140 morning of

00:26:57.120 when the FBI

00:26:57.940 raided your

00:26:58.620 home,

00:26:59.400 and at that

00:27:00.060 point,

00:27:00.540 I had never

00:27:01.760 met Roger

00:27:02.420 Stone,

00:27:03.360 and I

00:27:03.880 watched,

00:27:04.340 I saw the

00:27:04.840 CNN footage,

00:27:06.080 I saw

00:27:06.500 everything,

00:27:07.000 and I said,

00:27:07.360 hey,

00:27:07.460 this is not

00:27:07.860 right,

00:27:08.680 and I

00:27:09.100 knew from

00:27:09.480 that moment,

00:27:10.420 I felt God

00:27:11.240 spoke to me

00:27:12.020 and said,

00:27:13.660 you need to

00:27:14.940 go after this

00:27:15.740 guy because

00:27:16.640 he needs my

00:27:17.700 help,

00:27:18.580 and from

00:27:19.760 that moment,

00:27:21.160 we connected

00:27:22.340 in Sarasota,

00:27:23.300 and God did

00:27:23.800 the rest,

00:27:24.300 and so I'm

00:27:24.660 super,

00:27:25.080 super grateful

00:27:25.960 to be a part

00:27:26.780 of the journey

00:27:27.220 with you and

00:27:27.720 Edia and your

00:27:28.780 family for sure.

00:27:30.100 Your wife,

00:27:30.940 Carrie,

00:27:31.340 is also a

00:27:32.180 pastor.

00:27:32.640 She's a

00:27:32.960 wonderful woman.

00:27:33.600 You have a

00:27:33.900 beautiful family,

00:27:35.260 and we consider

00:27:36.920 you family,

00:27:37.860 I do think

00:27:39.160 that there's

00:27:39.700 a spiritual

00:27:40.560 revival going

00:27:41.360 on in

00:27:41.900 America.

00:27:43.220 You can

00:27:43.500 see it,

00:27:44.040 you can

00:27:44.340 feel it,

00:27:44.940 it transcends

00:27:46.980 politics to

00:27:47.800 say the

00:27:48.540 very least.

00:27:51.140 Again,

00:27:52.380 I notice,

00:27:53.420 and I've

00:27:53.780 started,

00:27:54.820 I'm new

00:27:55.660 in my

00:27:56.000 faith journey,

00:27:57.240 I'm new

00:27:57.620 in my

00:27:57.900 faith walk,

00:27:58.580 but I'm

00:27:59.040 getting more

00:28:00.260 and more

00:28:00.800 familiar with

00:28:02.200 the Bible,

00:28:02.680 and I used

00:28:03.820 to think it

00:28:04.240 was just

00:28:04.640 some kind

00:28:05.300 of outdated

00:28:06.000 book of

00:28:07.640 fables,

00:28:08.480 the language

00:28:09.160 was hard

00:28:09.880 to understand.

00:28:11.560 Now I

00:28:12.100 understand,

00:28:13.160 and I've

00:28:13.720 got one of

00:28:14.120 these Bibles

00:28:14.640 that gives

00:28:15.020 you a guide

00:28:15.760 that helps

00:28:16.580 you put the

00:28:20.260 language in

00:28:20.860 more common,

00:28:21.600 everyday idiom,

00:28:23.100 makes it more

00:28:23.860 understandable,

00:28:25.240 but I now

00:28:25.740 realize that the

00:28:26.860 Bible is an 1.00

00:28:27.480 incredibly practical

00:28:28.980 book,

00:28:29.540 that it really

00:28:30.240 addresses virtually

00:28:31.640 any problem

00:28:32.560 or any

00:28:33.240 issue in

00:28:34.220 which you

00:28:34.700 might be

00:28:35.580 curious.

00:28:36.980 It has

00:28:37.640 really become

00:28:38.200 a very

00:28:38.880 important part

00:28:39.720 of my life.

00:28:40.320 There's a

00:28:40.940 very good

00:28:41.660 friend who's

00:28:42.200 a pastor

00:28:42.660 in Canada.

00:28:43.780 I think he

00:28:44.180 gets up at

00:28:44.720 like 5 o'clock

00:28:45.580 in the morning

00:28:46.120 and he picks

00:28:46.660 out one

00:28:47.900 important part

00:28:49.060 of the Bible

00:28:49.580 for me to

00:28:50.160 read that

00:28:51.160 day.

00:28:52.760 And that's

00:28:53.520 how I start

00:28:54.080 my day,

00:28:54.480 every single

00:28:54.980 morning.

00:28:56.200 And then I

00:28:57.000 still, as a

00:28:57.780 Catholic, I

00:28:58.260 still say the

00:28:58.800 rosary at

00:28:59.400 night, and

00:29:00.820 there are

00:29:01.060 specific people

00:29:01.960 that I'm

00:29:03.100 praying for

00:29:03.720 who may be

00:29:04.200 going through

00:29:04.760 issues, health

00:29:06.000 issues, or

00:29:06.580 other issues, so

00:29:07.460 I pray for

00:29:08.460 them.

00:29:08.940 It's an

00:29:09.800 important part

00:29:10.840 of my life.

00:29:11.460 If you told

00:29:11.940 me this 15

00:29:12.540 years ago, I

00:29:13.420 would never,

00:29:14.380 ever have

00:29:14.700 believed it.

00:29:16.180 Yeah.

00:29:17.380 Yeah.

00:29:18.100 The Word of

00:29:19.120 God is an

00:29:19.880 incredible

00:29:20.760 resource, and

00:29:22.180 it's something

00:29:22.620 that you said

00:29:23.220 that transcends

00:29:24.020 time.

00:29:25.060 It transcends

00:29:26.120 politics, and

00:29:27.840 it's amazing

00:29:28.740 how you can

00:29:29.340 read one

00:29:29.980 passage of

00:29:30.700 Scripture one

00:29:31.300 day, but

00:29:32.200 then read it

00:29:32.840 several days

00:29:33.580 later, and

00:29:34.020 then something

00:29:34.400 else pops out

00:29:35.220 at you.

00:29:36.020 So it's an

00:29:37.680 amazing thing.

00:29:38.820 It's a living

00:29:39.280 thing.

00:29:41.000 It says in

00:29:41.320 the Bible that

00:29:41.780 the Word is

00:29:42.220 the same

00:29:42.500 yesterday, today,

00:29:43.340 and forever.

00:29:43.840 It never

00:29:44.100 changes.

00:29:45.240 So it's a

00:29:46.340 powerful, powerful

00:29:47.120 tool.

00:29:48.460 Randy, tell us

00:29:49.740 about your

00:29:50.460 family, because

00:29:51.180 you come from

00:29:52.200 a long tradition

00:29:53.340 of pastors.

00:29:53.900 preachers.

00:29:55.400 Yeah.

00:29:56.280 My parents, going

00:29:58.380 into my great

00:29:59.060 grandparents, all

00:30:00.560 Pentecostal

00:30:01.580 preachers, and

00:30:03.180 was raised at a

00:30:04.480 pastor's home, and

00:30:06.400 I accepted, I

00:30:08.720 felt the call to

00:30:10.780 preach at a very

00:30:11.440 young age.

00:30:12.500 At the age of 12

00:30:13.640 years old, I was in

00:30:14.560 a revival service

00:30:15.820 at my father's

00:30:17.440 church in

00:30:17.840 northeast Georgia,

00:30:18.620 and I had what

00:30:20.280 I call a super

00:30:21.160 spiritual experience.

00:30:23.560 And it was at

00:30:24.020 that moment I

00:30:24.560 told God, whatever

00:30:25.180 you want me to

00:30:25.760 do, I'll do.

00:30:26.360 Whatever you want

00:30:26.840 me to say, I'll

00:30:27.420 say.

00:30:28.120 And wherever you

00:30:28.740 want me to go, I'll

00:30:29.500 go.

00:30:29.760 And I always tell

00:30:30.500 people, be very

00:30:31.220 careful when you

00:30:32.580 tell God that, because

00:30:33.620 he just might make

00:30:34.360 you do it.

00:30:35.400 And that is

00:30:37.140 exactly what

00:30:37.800 happened in my

00:30:38.340 life.

00:30:38.700 And I had a

00:30:39.740 semi, if you want

00:30:40.880 to call it, semi

00:30:41.580 normal teenage

00:30:43.340 years, middle

00:30:44.480 school, high

00:30:44.980 school, and all

00:30:45.440 that stuff.

00:30:46.020 But I knew that

00:30:46.640 there was a call

00:30:47.340 in my life.

00:30:49.280 And right after

00:30:50.140 high school, I

00:30:51.820 started really

00:30:52.420 digging in to

00:30:53.820 that call, seeking

00:30:55.100 the face of God

00:30:55.840 for my life, and

00:30:57.320 stepped into

00:30:58.260 full-time ministry

00:30:59.240 on the road from

00:31:01.080 2014 to 2020.

00:31:03.400 I was an

00:31:04.620 itinerant evangelist

00:31:05.740 and preached 80

00:31:07.220 to 100 dates a

00:31:08.160 year.

00:31:08.620 All across the

00:31:09.620 nation, all across

00:31:10.300 the world, television,

00:31:11.900 radio, different

00:31:12.660 churches, from

00:31:14.060 non-denominational

00:31:15.400 churches to

00:31:16.260 independent

00:31:16.680 churches.

00:31:17.340 To all

00:31:18.920 sides of the

00:31:19.980 aisle there.

00:31:21.220 And then in

00:31:22.620 2020, I

00:31:23.720 began pastoring.

00:31:25.280 And now we

00:31:26.260 are pastoring

00:31:27.320 outside of

00:31:28.080 Atlanta, Georgia,

00:31:29.180 the campus

00:31:29.580 pastor of

00:31:30.140 Seven Springs

00:31:30.640 Church in

00:31:31.120 Lithia Springs,

00:31:31.840 Georgia.

00:31:32.580 And I'm super

00:31:33.480 excited.

00:31:34.020 This summer

00:31:36.320 will be my

00:31:37.900 11th year in

00:31:38.660 full-time

00:31:39.040 ministry.

00:31:40.260 And God

00:31:40.860 is blessing

00:31:42.020 us during the

00:31:42.660 season.

00:31:43.120 So I'm super

00:31:44.060 grateful about

00:31:44.820 everything that

00:31:45.380 we've seen

00:31:46.300 in ministry

00:31:48.280 this far.

00:31:49.320 I cannot

00:31:50.400 tell you how

00:31:51.320 impressed I

00:31:52.860 continue to be

00:31:53.900 with Franklin

00:31:54.700 Graham.

00:31:55.880 As you know,

00:31:56.980 as a very

00:31:57.680 young man, I

00:31:58.320 met Billy

00:31:58.800 Graham when I

00:31:59.380 was working for

00:31:59.940 President Richard

00:32:00.660 Nixon.

00:32:01.420 I actually still

00:32:02.340 have an autographed

00:32:04.120 Bible, a signed

00:32:05.000 Bible that Billy

00:32:05.880 Graham gave me

00:32:06.620 then.

00:32:07.540 And it's right on

00:32:08.820 the bookshelf next

00:32:09.680 to a Bible that

00:32:10.480 Franklin Graham gave

00:32:11.440 me when I was

00:32:13.320 saved more

00:32:14.280 recently.

00:32:15.640 When you add

00:32:16.860 these to the

00:32:20.360 literally hundreds

00:32:21.720 of Bibles that 0.94

00:32:22.460 people have

00:32:23.020 mailed me,

00:32:24.600 that is the

00:32:25.880 truth, those

00:32:27.460 are two of my

00:32:28.120 prouted possessions.

00:32:29.420 He's done

00:32:30.680 amazing, amazing

00:32:32.020 work, particularly

00:32:32.680 the charitable

00:32:33.260 work, particularly

00:32:34.280 when you had

00:32:35.460 these natural

00:32:36.020 disasters in

00:32:36.940 North Carolina.

00:32:38.120 I mean, again,

00:32:40.540 Franklin Graham

00:32:41.280 is not his

00:32:42.540 father.

00:32:43.080 He has his

00:32:43.920 own individual

00:32:45.840 style, but he's

00:32:47.300 an extremely

00:32:48.060 effective apostle

00:32:49.300 for the Lord, and

00:32:50.560 he's doing great,

00:32:51.580 great public

00:32:52.440 works.

00:32:53.980 Absolutely.

00:32:54.800 Absolutely.

00:32:55.800 It's Samaritan's 1.00

00:32:57.280 Purse.

00:32:58.640 Amazing

00:32:59.240 organizations.

00:33:00.440 Amazing

00:33:00.720 organizations.

00:33:01.760 And going back

00:33:02.740 to what you said,

00:33:03.540 though, we are

00:33:04.000 truly in a

00:33:05.740 spiritual revival.

00:33:07.740 I believe that

00:33:08.660 within our

00:33:10.140 nation, but not

00:33:10.800 just within our

00:33:11.360 nation, but

00:33:12.020 around the world.

00:33:13.800 We saw just

00:33:14.600 the other day

00:33:16.060 the Catholic

00:33:18.040 Church.

00:33:19.560 We saw a

00:33:21.080 brand new

00:33:21.480 Pope come to

00:33:22.280 light, Pope

00:33:24.300 Leo.

00:33:25.540 And so we are

00:33:26.580 in very, very

00:33:27.500 interesting times.

00:33:29.120 And I think

00:33:29.500 not just

00:33:30.000 interesting times,

00:33:31.000 but exciting

00:33:32.540 times, I

00:33:34.280 believe, in the

00:33:35.760 body of Christ

00:33:36.500 as a whole.

00:33:37.740 Well, you

00:33:38.840 know, I'm, as

00:33:40.260 a Catholic, the

00:33:41.600 jury is out on

00:33:42.580 the new Pope.

00:33:43.220 I'm very hopeful.

00:33:44.920 I was a critic, in

00:33:46.360 all honesty, of

00:33:47.840 Pope Francis.

00:33:49.340 I did not like the

00:33:50.600 fact that he

00:33:51.300 brought Cardinal

00:33:54.340 Theodore McCarrick,

00:33:55.320 who was exposed as a 0.93

00:33:56.960 vicious pedophile, 0.95

00:33:58.040 back to the 1.00

00:33:59.760 Vatican as an

00:34:01.080 advisor.

00:34:01.820 I particularly

00:34:02.560 didn't like the

00:34:03.160 fact that

00:34:04.140 Pope Francis

00:34:05.860 reached an

00:34:06.880 accommodation with

00:34:07.720 the Chinese

00:34:08.200 Communist Party

00:34:09.100 that essentially

00:34:09.720 allowed them to

00:34:11.120 veto who could be

00:34:13.100 a bishop or a

00:34:14.060 priest in China.

00:34:15.420 I think

00:34:16.040 accommodation with

00:34:17.040 evil is evil, 0.99

00:34:18.960 and Chinese 0.99

00:34:19.700 communism is one

00:34:21.220 of the most 0.79

00:34:21.620 brutal, most evil

00:34:22.760 regimes in the

00:34:24.060 history of man.

00:34:25.820 I really objected

00:34:28.340 to that.

00:34:28.800 I also did not

00:34:30.980 like the fact

00:34:33.480 that the church

00:34:34.260 was never

00:34:35.020 critical of

00:34:36.420 radical Islam.

00:34:38.700 I'm hoping,

00:34:39.920 more importantly,

00:34:41.100 however, that the

00:34:41.720 new Pope will

00:34:43.820 recognize that

00:34:44.720 matters such as

00:34:45.980 the issue of

00:34:46.660 illegal immigration,

00:34:48.240 political matters,

00:34:49.340 are outside his

00:34:51.220 responsibilities as

00:34:52.700 the leader of the

00:34:53.520 church.

00:34:53.920 I mean, as a

00:34:55.420 Catholic, there's a

00:34:56.160 time when the

00:34:56.760 Pope speaks,

00:34:57.720 a Catholic, he

00:34:58.700 speaks from the

00:35:00.580 throne of Peter,

00:35:01.480 he speaks in the

00:35:02.340 voice of God,

00:35:03.460 the other times

00:35:04.180 when he's issuing

00:35:05.080 opinions that,

00:35:06.100 well, and sometimes

00:35:06.660 I think are

00:35:08.280 inappropriate.

00:35:09.740 This new Pope has

00:35:11.220 criticized President

00:35:12.540 Trump, Vice

00:35:13.160 President Vance.

00:35:14.440 I do not think

00:35:15.500 that is his role.

00:35:16.760 We're going to be

00:35:17.220 back for more

00:35:18.080 discussion of the

00:35:19.580 new Pope and also

00:35:20.560 this great, I

00:35:22.280 think, religious

00:35:23.660 revival that's

00:35:24.540 happening in

00:35:25.000 America with my

00:35:26.060 good friend,

00:35:26.660 Pastor Randy

00:35:27.220 Coggins.

00:35:27.720 On the other

00:35:28.140 side, don't go

00:35:29.180 away, we'll be

00:35:29.740 right back in the

00:35:30.420 Stone Zone.

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00:37:26.380 And we're back

00:37:27.380 in the Stone Zone.

00:37:28.200 We're talking to

00:37:28.820 Pastor Randy Coggins.

00:37:30.500 Randy Coggins is really

00:37:31.780 the real reason

00:37:33.540 that I am redeemed

00:37:34.860 in the blood of the cross.

00:37:35.920 He changed my life

00:37:38.120 and I'm proud

00:37:39.040 to call him my friend.

00:37:40.080 He's almost like a,

00:37:41.180 he is like a member

00:37:42.380 of my family.

00:37:43.980 And we're talking

00:37:45.180 about this great revival

00:37:46.360 that I think

00:37:46.760 is going on in America.

00:37:48.520 Tough question

00:37:49.060 for you, Randy.

00:37:50.280 And that is,

00:37:51.520 and many Christians

00:37:52.720 disagree about this,

00:37:53.640 but I'm interested

00:37:54.220 in your view

00:37:54.740 on the role

00:37:55.900 of prophecy

00:37:56.900 in the church.

00:37:58.780 Along with the Bibles 0.97

00:37:59.860 given to me

00:38:00.420 by Billy Graham

00:38:01.600 and Franklin Graham,

00:38:02.560 I have the personal Bible

00:38:03.860 of Kim Clement.

00:38:04.960 Kim Clement was

00:38:05.820 a famous Christian prophet,

00:38:07.960 had many, many prophecies

00:38:09.820 that turned out

00:38:10.420 to be eerily accurate.

00:38:13.020 And I know

00:38:14.040 different people

00:38:14.680 disagree about this,

00:38:15.760 but your view

00:38:16.600 of prophecy

00:38:17.220 in the church?

00:38:20.020 Yes, the role

00:38:22.220 of prophecy

00:38:24.700 in the church,

00:38:25.800 I believe,

00:38:27.240 as a Pentecostal believer,

00:38:30.060 is still very,

00:38:31.600 very active today.

00:38:32.820 something about prophecy

00:38:35.080 is prophecy

00:38:35.580 reveals God's heart

00:38:36.940 and God's intentions.

00:38:39.700 If you look up

00:38:40.500 the word prophecy,

00:38:41.400 prophecy

00:38:41.740 is simply

00:38:43.480 a divine communication

00:38:45.000 from God

00:38:46.520 to his people.

00:38:47.500 When we read

00:38:48.280 the word of God,

00:38:49.040 we read that happening

00:38:50.160 numerous times,

00:38:51.700 numerous places

00:38:52.480 from,

00:38:53.780 you know,

00:38:54.880 quote, unquote,

00:38:55.880 God's prophets.

00:38:56.840 prophets.

00:38:58.000 Now, you know,

00:38:58.920 we live in a time

00:38:59.820 where just because

00:39:01.160 someone necessarily

00:39:02.280 calls themselves

00:39:03.040 a prophet

00:39:03.520 doesn't make them

00:39:04.200 a prophet.

00:39:05.820 That's why

00:39:06.640 God instructs us

00:39:08.080 in the word of God,

00:39:08.940 you know,

00:39:09.140 you test the words.

00:39:10.860 You test the words

00:39:12.000 that people give.

00:39:13.680 You either accept them

00:39:15.120 for what it is

00:39:16.420 or you don't accept it

00:39:17.640 for what it is.

00:39:18.220 So it reveals

00:39:19.200 his heart,

00:39:19.720 his plans,

00:39:20.300 his purposes.

00:39:22.860 And in scripture,

00:39:24.340 though,

00:39:24.580 prophecy often

00:39:25.220 served to warn,

00:39:27.560 correct,

00:39:28.240 encourage,

00:39:28.740 and guide.

00:39:30.460 But one thing

00:39:31.460 about prophecy

00:39:32.080 is prophecy

00:39:32.700 always points

00:39:33.520 to Jesus as well.

00:39:35.200 Revelation chapter 19,

00:39:36.480 verse 10 says

00:39:37.180 the testimony of Jesus

00:39:38.400 is the spirit

00:39:39.880 of prophecy.

00:39:41.260 So true biblical prophecy

00:39:43.000 always glorifies Jesus

00:39:44.600 and always aligns

00:39:45.700 with his word.

00:39:46.880 It always leads people

00:39:48.020 towards him,

00:39:48.760 not away from him.

00:39:50.400 So prophecy builds,

00:39:51.900 encourages,

00:39:52.540 and it strengthens

00:39:53.680 the church.

00:39:54.320 But prophecy

00:39:54.940 also warns of judgment,

00:39:57.540 calls of repentance.

00:39:59.340 It prepares the church

00:40:01.260 as a whole,

00:40:01.940 not just one specific church

00:40:03.800 or one specific denomination

00:40:05.240 or affiliation,

00:40:07.460 but it prepares the church

00:40:08.380 for what's ahead.

00:40:09.780 But again,

00:40:10.520 like I said,

00:40:11.240 prophecy must be tested

00:40:12.340 and rooted in scripture.

00:40:14.040 It says in 1 Thessalonians

00:40:16.300 chapter 5,

00:40:16.900 verses 20 through 21,

00:40:18.020 it says,

00:40:18.900 do not treat prophecies

00:40:19.960 with contempt,

00:40:21.080 but test them all.

00:40:22.420 Hold on to what is good.

00:40:23.860 So a word may be powerful

00:40:25.060 or emotional,

00:40:25.740 but it's not prophetic

00:40:27.360 unless it aligns

00:40:28.600 with scripture

00:40:29.080 and it aligns

00:40:30.200 with the character of Christ.

00:40:31.340 So that's my,

00:40:31.980 that's my two cents

00:40:33.520 on prophecy.

00:40:35.200 Well,

00:40:35.400 that was the perfect answer.

00:40:37.620 Look,

00:40:37.860 I'm a Catholic

00:40:38.700 who believes in prophecy.

00:40:40.180 I followed Kim Clement.

00:40:41.840 Kim Clement said

00:40:42.780 the giant

00:40:43.680 would be brought down

00:40:45.320 by a simple stone.

00:40:46.260 Don't remember that name.

00:40:47.280 Now I want to be clear.

00:40:48.280 I'm not claiming

00:40:48.920 to be a prophet.

00:40:49.820 I'm not claiming

00:40:50.280 to be a saint.

00:40:51.000 That's for sure.

00:40:52.040 I am merely a soldier

00:40:53.460 in God's army,

00:40:54.380 but I will do his will.

00:40:55.820 And it is only thanks

00:40:57.400 to Pastor Randy Coggins

00:40:59.280 and to Reverend Franklin Graham

00:41:01.200 that I changed my life

00:41:03.160 and I'm proud

00:41:03.800 of my belief in Christ.

00:41:05.520 Thank you very much

00:41:06.160 for joining us today.

00:41:07.360 Pastor Randy Coggins,

00:41:08.800 you've been listening

00:41:09.500 to The Stone Zone.

00:41:10.440 God bless you

00:41:11.540 until we meet again.

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