The StoneZONE with Roger Stone

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:05.860 You are now entering the Stone Zone.

00:00:10.600 NATO is trying to sabotage a Ukraine peace deal.

00:00:15.200 With President Donald Trump working overtime to secure a peace deal between the Ukraine and Russia,

00:00:21.020 NATO is providing support for ramped up drone attacks against Russian nuclear bombers, military bases, trains, and other facilities.

00:00:30.720 It is clear to me that NATO is openly trying to start a nuclear war with Russia on the eve of peace talks which took place yesterday in Turkey.

00:00:41.320 Moscow is now under attack again.

00:00:43.540 And this is quite extraordinary because it comes on the heels of a visit to Ukraine where U.S. Senators Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal,

00:00:55.540 also known as Da Nang Dick, the guy who lied about seeing combat in the service in Vietnam when he was never even in Vietnam,

00:01:06.760 met with President Zelensky.

00:01:09.220 By the way, their combined hotel bill was more than $1 million for the U.S. taxpayers.

00:01:16.720 That must be some incredible room service.

00:01:20.320 Ukraine has now claimed over 40 bombers.

00:01:23.400 About a third of Russia's strategic bomber fleet were damaged or destroyed this past Sunday,

00:01:29.280 while Moscow said only several planes were struck.

00:01:31.960 The attack comes amid recent reports that some intelligence agents have gone rogue

00:01:37.620 and are not disclosing information from Ukraine within the Trump administration,

00:01:42.360 which may include forewarnings of this recent attack.

00:01:46.760 However, Ukraine carried out what they called the Russian Pearl Harbor attack, as I say,

00:01:53.820 the very day that Senators Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal arrived in Kiev.

00:02:01.500 Now, you can understand how the Russians may look at this visit by two U.S. senators

00:02:08.260 and assume that that means that this attack on Russia has the imprimatur or the approval of President Donald Trump.

00:02:18.100 The White House put out a statement that the president was not forewarned of this attack,

00:02:24.160 which General Michael Flynn, who was with us in the Stone Zone yesterday

00:02:27.760 and was the former National Security Advisor, told us was extraordinarily unusual.

00:02:34.760 Only a week ago, it was shocking to learn, even though it got some coverage in the mainstream press,

00:02:42.460 that the president had not been informed of an assassination attempt against Russian leader Vladimir Putin

00:02:49.480 when there was an attack by the Ukrainians on his helicopter.

00:02:54.260 It's interesting that back in 2016, after Trump won, Lindsey Graham and his warmonger friends went to Ukraine

00:03:01.160 and claimed that Russia had attacked us by hacking the 2016 elections,

00:03:07.520 a claim for which there is no evidence whatsoever.

00:03:11.780 Graham and his neocon buddies have been trying to start World War III for over a decade.

00:03:17.800 In my opinion, President Trump should renounce the actions of Lindsey Graham

00:03:23.000 and make it clear that he speaks only for himself.

00:03:25.980 He doesn't speak for the Trump administration, nor does he speak for the U.S. Senate.

00:03:32.500 Meanwhile, the long-talked-about investigation into Joe Biden's auto pen scandal has finally begun.

00:03:39.440 Ed Martin, the Justice Department's attorney in charge of pardons, also in charge of weaponization,

00:03:46.420 emailed staff that he has been ordered to investigate clemency, supposedly granted by Biden,

00:03:52.820 to his family members and an extraordinary large number of death row inmates,

00:03:58.400 including sex traffickers, murderers, drug dealers, and others, all during Biden's final time in office.

00:04:08.000 Ed Martin wrote in the email that he will investigate whether Biden was mentally competent

00:04:13.020 and whether others were taking advantage of him through the use of the auto pen or other means.

00:04:18.640 The email from Martin specifically focuses on the preemptive pardons Biden issued to six members of his own family

00:04:27.160 and the clemency he granted to 37 murderers, drug dealers, rapists, and other violent criminals.

00:04:35.000 What's perplexing is the fact that none of those violent criminals had expressed any remorse.

00:04:41.820 None of them had officially applied for pardons, which is a legal process.

00:04:48.720 It is not necessary to apply for a pardon in order to receive one,

00:04:52.760 but for someone who is a hardened criminal, one has to wonder what the motive was

00:04:58.400 or who the progenitor was of that decision.

00:05:02.580 Biden, of course, pardoned five members of his own crime family hours before Donald Trump took office,

00:05:08.500 specifically pardoning his son Hunter, something he said throughout the final year of his term,

00:05:15.740 he would under no circumstances do.

00:05:19.420 Biden's blanket preemptive pardon to his brother, James Biden, to his daughter-in-law, Sarah Jones Biden,

00:05:27.700 to Valerie Biden Owens, his sister, and her husband, John T. Owens,

00:05:32.520 and to Francis W. Biden, a sister, gave cover for any nonviolent offenses they may have committed

00:05:39.900 from January 1st, 2014 through the date of the pardon.

00:05:44.200 And then, of course, on December 1st, Biden pardoned his son Hunter.

00:05:49.600 You remember Hunter.

00:05:50.720 He had a laptop that was a cornucopia of criminal evidence of various crimes that he committed.

00:05:58.940 But 51 former or current intelligence officers insisted to us in the run-up to the 2024 election

00:06:09.140 that that was all Russian disinformation.

00:06:13.520 As Miranda Devine proved in her crusading reporting with the New York Post,

00:06:20.240 the contents of Hunter Biden's laptops were authentic, they were generalizing,

00:06:25.560 they were accurate, and they were stunning.

00:06:29.720 The pardon, which covered any federal crimes by Hunter from 2014 to 2024,

00:06:35.280 ended what was an ongoing case that delved into many of the criminal actions of the Biden crime family.

00:06:43.900 Now, recent reports have revealed Joe Biden almost certainly had no clue what was going on

00:06:50.460 when these most recent pardons were issued,

00:06:53.220 nor did he know what executive orders he had signed.

00:06:56.260 Regarding the Biden pardons, Ed Martin, the deputy attorney general, said,

00:07:01.720 I had a whistleblower in my office 10 years ago,

00:07:04.580 a senior, senior Democrat who worked in the White House saying,

00:07:08.760 look, it was these three people that controlled access,

00:07:11.980 and they, in fact, were making money off of it.

00:07:14.880 I'm not certain that we can prove that yet,

00:07:17.820 but the point is I think we have to investigate it

00:07:20.600 and get to the bottom of it for the American people

00:07:22.880 and to protect the process.

00:07:25.860 With their sweeping powers, of course,

00:07:27.780 the Justice Department has the ability to examine the bank accounts

00:07:31.600 of any of those suspected of taking money for pardons with the auto pen.

00:07:37.380 They had no problem accessing my bank accounts when I was under investigation.

00:07:43.800 Fortunately for me, they found nothing wrong whatsoever.

00:07:47.320 Although Martin is not ready to name names,

00:07:49.980 he said that senior Democrat whistblower worked as a high-level advisor

00:07:54.680 to Joe Biden's 2020 campaign and later in the White House.

00:07:58.820 Now, the three gatekeepers are alleged to be

00:08:03.460 Chief of Staff Ron Klain,

00:08:05.760 former White House advisor and admitted communist,

00:08:09.460 and Mao Zedong enthusiast Anita Dunn,

00:08:12.980 and Biden attorney Bob Bauer.

00:08:16.000 My sources tell me that Neera Tanden and Steve Nelson

00:08:21.320 were two other Biden aides who had access to the auto pen.

00:08:27.580 Martin said that the former Biden counsel,

00:08:30.140 Steve Reschetti, and Jill Biden, Dr. Jill Biden,

00:08:35.100 were also lead characters in the Biden White House.

00:08:40.240 This reminds me very much of the situation that surrounded Woodrow Wilson.

00:08:44.020 Woodrow Wilson was incapacitated by a debilitating stroke,

00:08:49.020 was both mentally and physically incapacitated

00:08:52.400 for the full three years of his final term,

00:08:56.940 and his wife, Edith Galt Wilson,

00:09:00.920 functioned as the de facto president of the United States.

00:09:04.740 Back in the days before television or the internet or even radio,

00:09:09.420 of course, the president could get away with not being seen,

00:09:12.660 and in fact, Woodrow Wilson was not seen in public

00:09:15.820 for the full three years of his final term.

00:09:21.160 It is written that Edith Galt Wilson would put the pen

00:09:26.460 into Woodrow Wilson's hand

00:09:28.240 and move it across the federal documents requiring his signature.

00:09:33.200 She did this with the assistance of the White House Chief of Staff,

00:09:36.780 the notorious Colonel House.

00:09:38.500 Joe Biden's wife and son, even Sleepy Joe himself,

00:09:43.220 may be forced to testify before the House Oversight Committee

00:09:46.420 regarding the attempts to cover up his clear mental unraveling,

00:09:49.820 according to Committee Chairman James Comer.

00:09:52.200 Now, you have to wonder that if Chairman Comer sends a subpoena

00:09:57.440 to Joe Biden, to Jill Biden, to Hunter Biden,

00:10:01.980 to any of the Bidens,

00:10:04.160 and they refuse to testify,

00:10:06.780 will they be prosecuted the way Steve Bannon

00:10:10.380 and Peter Navarro will?

00:10:13.320 Interesting question.

00:10:14.600 Comer announced that Jill and Hunter

00:10:17.060 and the former White House Press Secretary,

00:10:19.780 Karine Jean-Pierre, could also be called in,

00:10:22.580 and that he said they would be subpoenaed

00:10:25.500 if they refused to agree to testify.

00:10:28.680 If the trail leads us to the next step,

00:10:31.520 which we believe could be Jill and Hunter Biden,

00:10:34.540 we will go there and subpoena them as well.

00:10:38.380 The committee has actually already called Dr. Kevin O'Connor,

00:10:43.640 the physician who insisted that Biden had a clean bill of health

00:10:48.640 and for other of Biden's handlers to testify.

00:10:53.020 Comer said that they're all lawyered up

00:10:55.800 and all are taking this very seriously,

00:10:58.140 noting that O'Connor definitely was not telling the truth

00:11:00.880 about Joe Biden's health.

00:11:03.300 People will not remember this,

00:11:04.940 but in the immediate aftermath of the historic debate

00:11:08.480 in which you saw Joe Biden literally melt down

00:11:12.560 on national television,

00:11:14.400 the excuses that were made by the Democrats

00:11:18.220 were extraordinary with Kamala Harris saying

00:11:20.200 that no, no, indeed, Joe Biden was sharp as a tack.

00:11:24.700 Didn't look too sharp in that debate to me.

00:11:27.280 The Oversight Project previously released findings

00:11:30.260 showing a correlation between the increased use

00:11:33.400 of auto pen signatures

00:11:34.460 and Joe Biden's worsening mental decline.

00:11:38.620 The group found that two different auto pens were used

00:11:41.540 with an analysis of executive order signatures

00:11:44.200 showing an increased use of the auto pen

00:11:46.960 as President Biden's mental and physical decline accelerated.

00:11:52.140 President Trump has called for those 0.98

00:11:53.920 who operated the auto pen to be jailed.

00:11:56.840 Of course, that would only come after they were charged

00:11:59.580 and went through a trial

00:12:00.700 because even in America,

00:12:02.400 everyone is innocent until proven guilty

00:12:05.300 or until put through a Soviet-style show trial

00:12:08.660 and put through a kangaroo court,

00:12:12.120 but there's still a finding.

00:12:14.960 Meanwhile, we learned that the grand jury

00:12:18.020 has issued subpoenas

00:12:19.280 in the case of New York Attorney General Letitia James.

00:12:23.400 The FBI is officially investigating

00:12:25.740 the New York Attorney General

00:12:26.840 for potential mortgage fraud

00:12:28.900 linked to multiple real estate transactions.

00:12:32.600 A grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia

00:12:34.900 has now issued subpoenas

00:12:36.100 related to these allegations.

00:12:39.200 We've had Sam Antar, 0.96

00:12:41.280 who writes for whitecollarfraud.com,

00:12:44.520 whitecollarfraud.com,

00:12:45.940 who's documented and shows you

00:12:47.780 the actual documents

00:12:49.040 of a 22-year spree

00:12:52.020 of mortgage fraud

00:12:54.060 right here on the show.

00:12:56.700 I think we were among the first

00:12:58.140 in the Stone Zone to break this story.

00:13:01.260 Ironically, James is now

00:13:02.740 the first public official

00:13:03.900 who previously maliciously

00:13:05.800 prosecuted President Donald Trump

00:13:07.420 to potentially face criminal charges.

00:13:10.940 I reiterate my invitation

00:13:12.560 to Attorney General James.

00:13:15.180 She's welcome to come into the Stone Zone 1.00

00:13:16.960 at any time to respond to these charges

00:13:20.180 and defend herself if she wishes.

00:13:22.820 So far, what I've heard from her is crickets.

00:13:26.260 The FBI Director, Cash Patel, stated,

00:13:28.800 this case, I can tell you,

00:13:29.920 is being handled by our professionals

00:13:31.800 who are subject matter experts

00:13:33.840 and they're reporting directly

00:13:35.280 to myself and Deputy Director Dan Bongino.

00:13:38.960 The investigation to James

00:13:40.800 was opened after a criminal referral

00:13:42.860 which came from Federal Housing Finance

00:13:45.260 Authority Director Bill Posey

00:13:47.700 as previously reported here

00:13:50.620 in the Stone Zone.

00:13:51.940 Incredibly, Jones claims to be

00:13:54.000 fighting for the taxpayers,

00:13:55.300 saying,

00:13:55.580 we stood up against the dismantling

00:13:57.620 of the Department of Education.

00:13:59.580 We are suing Donald Trump.

00:14:02.080 And she claims, of course,

00:14:03.480 all of this is retaliation

00:14:06.580 for the conviction she obtained

00:14:09.740 against Donald Trump,

00:14:11.660 which I predict will be overturned.

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00:14:48.760 Now, here's a story

00:14:51.740 that's near and dear to my heart.

00:14:53.800 Turns out that the FBI

00:14:55.240 and Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team

00:14:58.420 hid Russiagate documents

00:15:00.580 with a special coding

00:15:01.660 in the FBI's case management database.

00:15:05.400 This could explain

00:15:06.420 why the report of Special Counsel Robert,

00:15:10.600 pardon me, John Durham,

00:15:12.400 even though it documented the fact

00:15:14.320 that the Russian collusion hoax

00:15:15.900 was the greatest single abuse of power

00:15:18.820 in American political history.

00:15:20.680 It was nothing less than the use

00:15:22.320 of the full authority

00:15:23.640 of the U.S. government

00:15:24.620 and the incredible abilities

00:15:27.880 of our intelligence agencies

00:15:29.540 to try to overturn

00:15:30.980 a duly elected president

00:15:32.700 utilizing two pieces

00:15:34.440 of completely fraudulent evidence.

00:15:36.820 The so-called Steele dossier,

00:15:39.180 paid for and fabricated

00:15:40.840 on behalf of Hillary Clinton,

00:15:43.080 which falsely claimed

00:15:44.160 that Donald Trump had dallied

00:15:45.560 with Russian prostitutes 0.97

00:15:46.900 when visiting Russia

00:15:48.960 as a private businessman

00:15:50.180 prior to his entering politics.

00:15:52.540 And again, the false claim

00:15:54.500 that the Russians hacked the DNC.

00:15:58.380 So it's very clear

00:16:00.700 that Mueller's dirty Democrats lawyers

00:16:03.320 hid exculpatory evidence

00:16:05.760 within these files.

00:16:06.800 Recall that my good friend,

00:16:08.300 General Flynn,

00:16:09.100 who was with us yesterday

00:16:10.360 in the Stone Zone,

00:16:11.500 was forced into a guilty plea

00:16:13.080 of one count of a false statement

00:16:15.480 after partisan prosecutors tricked him

00:16:18.340 and withheld evidence

00:16:19.360 that they were required

00:16:20.820 to disclose

00:16:21.520 that would have completely exonerated him.

00:16:25.360 They did essentially

00:16:26.360 the same thing to me.

00:16:28.300 My lawyers asked

00:16:29.360 for the so-called crowd strikes report,

00:16:31.600 which would have proved

00:16:33.140 that there never was

00:16:34.080 any Russian hack of the DNC,

00:16:36.060 and therefore I couldn't possibly

00:16:37.220 make a misstatement

00:16:38.160 about something that didn't happen.

00:16:39.880 But the judge denied that

00:16:41.580 to my attorneys.

00:16:43.700 It is a classic case of overreach.

00:16:46.160 Speaking of overreach,

00:16:47.500 coming up,

00:16:48.400 we're going to talk about

00:16:49.520 the incredible case

00:16:50.680 of Chris and Aaron Mazze.

00:16:53.520 They're a couple from California

00:16:55.540 whose life and family

00:16:57.280 has virtually been destroyed

00:16:59.060 by overzealous prosecutors

00:17:02.080 seeking headlines

00:17:03.700 but not seeking justice.

00:17:06.140 Their story is so chilling

00:17:08.420 that I decided to invite

00:17:10.340 Chris Mazze

00:17:11.340 into the Stone Zone

00:17:12.880 to talk about it.

00:17:13.920 We'll be right back

00:17:14.720 with that incredible story,

00:17:16.080 so don't go away.

00:17:18.300 The Stone Zone

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00:17:23.480 The Stone Zone

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00:17:29.420 We're back in the Stone Zone.

00:17:31.740 I can tell you firsthand,

00:17:32.860 I know what it is

00:17:33.680 to be targeted

00:17:34.600 by a vengeful

00:17:35.840 and politically motivated

00:17:37.800 federal government.

00:17:38.680 They have unlimited resources.

00:17:41.980 I know what it is

00:17:43.120 to be the subject of a trial

00:17:45.400 presided over

00:17:46.540 by a hostile

00:17:47.420 and hateful judge

00:17:48.860 who essentially

00:17:49.440 will not allow you

00:17:50.520 to mount any defense

00:17:52.360 whatsoever.

00:17:53.440 I know what it is

00:17:54.640 to have a judge

00:17:55.860 who won't even allow you

00:17:56.860 to enter exhibits

00:17:58.140 of evidence

00:17:59.040 that would have proved

00:18:00.080 that you're an innocent,

00:18:01.620 even though under the law

00:18:03.240 it's the government's job

00:18:04.560 to prove you're guilty.

00:18:05.500 You're not required

00:18:06.400 to prove your innocence.

00:18:08.040 It doesn't really work that way.

00:18:09.640 But the case of Aaron

00:18:11.840 and Chris Mazze

00:18:14.140 is so stunning,

00:18:16.540 so overreaching,

00:18:17.740 so outrageous

00:18:18.540 that I wanted to bring

00:18:20.720 Chris Mazze

00:18:21.340 on the show today

00:18:22.280 to talk about it.

00:18:24.000 The Mazze's 0.92

00:18:25.220 are successful

00:18:26.220 California entrepreneurs.

00:18:28.360 They had a history

00:18:28.900 of developing

00:18:29.500 entertainment content

00:18:30.640 previously,

00:18:31.780 directing and producing

00:18:32.720 several feature films,

00:18:34.440 all of which made money.

00:18:36.300 But when they got

00:18:38.120 a PPP loan

00:18:39.980 back during the

00:18:41.360 COVID-19 crisis,

00:18:43.380 that's when

00:18:44.400 the trouble started.

00:18:46.340 Chris Mazze,

00:18:47.280 welcome to the Stone Zone.

00:18:49.580 Thank you, Roger.

00:18:50.280 Thank you for having me.

00:18:51.720 So give us

00:18:53.000 a kind of a quick synopsis

00:18:55.400 of what went down

00:18:57.520 in this epic prosecution

00:18:59.740 of you and your wife.

00:19:01.680 You were sentenced

00:19:02.300 to 36 months

00:19:03.380 of imprisonment

00:19:04.200 while your wife, 0.97

00:19:05.920 Erin,

00:19:06.080 was sentenced

00:19:06.480 to 27 months

00:19:07.960 of imprisonment.

00:19:08.680 She is still incarcerated.

00:19:11.020 The charges

00:19:11.660 in the end

00:19:12.140 were allegedly

00:19:13.540 wire fraud

00:19:14.500 and money laundering

00:19:15.820 conspiracy

00:19:16.500 for receiving

00:19:17.960 a PPP loan

00:19:19.020 to fund

00:19:19.600 an entertainment project

00:19:21.380 in Hawaii

00:19:22.580 where you live.

00:19:23.600 Tell us what happened.

00:19:25.240 Well, actually,

00:19:25.880 we never lived in Hawaii,

00:19:27.360 so that's the ironic part.

00:19:28.920 We've always lived

00:19:29.540 in California.

00:19:31.740 This all stemmed

00:19:32.880 because we had

00:19:33.540 a project called

00:19:34.640 Ohana

00:19:35.040 that basically

00:19:36.140 was a fictional character

00:19:38.660 in a non-fiction

00:19:40.600 world of Hawaii

00:19:43.000 in the 1990s

00:19:44.140 dealing with the mob

00:19:45.040 and the corrupt

00:19:45.640 federal government

00:19:46.420 over there.

00:19:47.960 So that's,

00:19:49.000 I don't know

00:19:49.760 if that's how

00:19:50.580 it all stemmed

00:19:51.540 from it,

00:19:52.160 but we,

00:19:53.360 you know,

00:19:54.580 during COVID

00:19:55.220 when it all happened

00:19:56.080 we were like

00:19:56.760 everybody else

00:19:57.520 didn't know

00:19:58.360 what was going on

00:19:59.400 was following

00:20:00.920 directions

00:20:01.780 by any and everybody

00:20:03.300 and,

00:20:04.120 you know,

00:20:04.220 at that time

00:20:04.840 I was reaching out

00:20:05.840 to our local banks

00:20:06.760 and they're like

00:20:07.220 we're not doing

00:20:07.780 this program yet

00:20:08.620 we don't know

00:20:09.120 what it is

00:20:10.200 and so that's

00:20:11.900 when I started

00:20:12.420 just kind of

00:20:12.940 going online

00:20:13.500 every day

00:20:14.120 just to

00:20:14.760 to get questions

00:20:17.180 you know,

00:20:17.720 I had questions

00:20:18.280 I needed answers

00:20:19.060 and I reached out

00:20:21.520 to I don't even know

00:20:22.360 how many different

00:20:23.100 banks and loan originators

00:20:24.680 and one of them

00:20:26.120 wrote us back

00:20:26.780 and said

00:20:27.240 no,

00:20:27.640 you can use projections

00:20:28.640 and it didn't seem

00:20:30.020 off to me

00:20:31.320 because back in the day

00:20:32.980 we used to own

00:20:33.740 a no fear store

00:20:34.640 and we got a

00:20:35.500 traditional SBA loan

00:20:37.100 and one of the requirements

00:20:39.240 is you fill out

00:20:40.040 a whole Excel spreadsheet

00:20:41.820 on your 18 months

00:20:43.500 of projections

00:20:44.160 so it didn't throw up

00:20:47.260 any irregularities

00:20:49.140 to me

00:20:49.500 or to us

00:20:50.460 so that is

00:20:53.160 the issue

00:20:54.280 that happened

00:20:55.100 with the prosecutor

00:20:56.920 he didn't want to hear

00:20:57.820 anything about the email

00:20:58.780 he just turned

00:20:59.940 a blind ear

00:21:00.920 wasn't

00:21:01.340 wasn't part of his narrative

00:21:03.280 so the loan originator

00:21:05.540 urged

00:21:06.500 advised you

00:21:07.920 that it was properly

00:21:08.640 used payroll projections

00:21:09.820 for the loan

00:21:10.540 which is what you did

00:21:12.280 you had done it previously

00:21:13.400 when applying

00:21:13.900 for an SBA loan

00:21:15.120 ultimately

00:21:16.320 it was determined

00:21:17.960 that the loan originator's

00:21:19.020 guidance was incorrect

00:21:20.320 which seemed to me

00:21:21.880 that agreeing

00:21:23.120 to pay back

00:21:24.020 the loan

00:21:24.560 should have

00:21:25.240 solved this issue

00:21:27.200 but for some reason

00:21:28.700 the U.S. attorney

00:21:30.380 and a federal

00:21:31.620 district judge

00:21:32.460 they seemed to me

00:21:33.660 to be looking more

00:21:34.460 for a scalp

00:21:35.580 rather than

00:21:37.640 true justice

00:21:39.220 what happened next

00:21:40.960 so yeah

00:21:43.340 I mean

00:21:43.860 through this whole process

00:21:45.840 we

00:21:46.400 you know

00:21:50.140 once we learned

00:21:51.540 that

00:21:51.880 the information

00:21:52.800 was incorrect

00:21:53.480 we said

00:21:54.060 okay

00:21:54.340 like let's

00:21:55.320 you've already seized

00:21:56.400 the majority of it

00:21:57.680 because when we first

00:21:58.360 got the loan

00:21:59.000 I'm like

00:21:59.400 I do not want

00:22:00.160 any of this money

00:22:00.940 in my normal account

00:22:02.960 like this is not my money

00:22:04.700 so we

00:22:05.120 we use

00:22:05.620 we put

00:22:06.140 what we were told

00:22:07.040 we're allowed

00:22:07.640 to pay ourselves

00:22:08.420 and everything else

00:22:10.120 went into a specific account

00:22:11.560 specific account

00:22:12.480 for Ohana

00:22:13.180 and

00:22:14.440 you know

00:22:16.380 that right there

00:22:17.240 is their money

00:22:18.600 laundering charge

00:22:19.640 but once

00:22:23.400 once we found out

00:22:24.500 that the advice

00:22:25.400 from the loan

00:22:25.880 originator

00:22:26.400 was not

00:22:27.880 proper

00:22:28.700 we said

00:22:29.980 okay

00:22:30.360 what can we do

00:22:31.060 like let's sell

00:22:31.880 let's sell our condo

00:22:32.860 we had bought a condo

00:22:33.700 over in Hawaii

00:22:34.240 because we were

00:22:34.700 planning on shooting

00:22:35.560 this pilot

00:22:36.280 in summer of 2021

00:22:37.660 so

00:22:39.500 you know

00:22:40.420 we sold that

00:22:41.440 and we came up

00:22:42.240 with close to

00:22:42.840 1.2 million

00:22:43.780 out of the

00:22:44.180 1.3 million dollars

00:22:45.680 that was the

00:22:47.280 original loan amount

00:22:48.220 and

00:22:49.500 they just didn't care

00:22:52.780 you know

00:22:53.400 they're like

00:22:53.880 no you guys

00:22:54.380 are hard criminals

00:22:55.060 you know

00:22:55.720 we don't care

00:22:57.320 they wanted to treat us

00:22:58.540 like

00:22:58.780 the other people

00:23:00.300 that you would

00:23:00.800 hear on the news

00:23:01.540 that bought

00:23:02.520 Lamborghinis

00:23:03.340 and

00:23:03.800 didn't have

00:23:04.840 businesses

00:23:05.280 and it was

00:23:06.160 it was just

00:23:06.820 sickening to us

00:23:07.680 that we were

00:23:08.220 being labeled

00:23:08.820 that

00:23:09.200 when we

00:23:10.680 we're a normal

00:23:11.920 family

00:23:12.320 I mean

00:23:12.700 we're

00:23:14.960 basically

00:23:15.660 similar to

00:23:16.380 everyone that's

00:23:16.940 listening to your

00:23:17.560 program

00:23:17.940 we're not

00:23:18.440 famous

00:23:19.060 we're not

00:23:19.740 politicians

00:23:20.560 we're

00:23:21.860 your average

00:23:22.720 family that

00:23:23.540 got targeted

00:23:24.660 and I think

00:23:25.580 there's a lot

00:23:26.100 of them

00:23:26.420 out there

00:23:27.120 that just

00:23:27.720 don't have

00:23:28.420 a voice

00:23:28.960 and so

00:23:30.500 we're very

00:23:30.840 thankful

00:23:31.160 you're giving

00:23:31.660 us a voice

00:23:32.460 I mean

00:23:33.360 the case

00:23:34.000 against you

00:23:35.020 and your

00:23:35.440 wife Erin

00:23:35.940 seems plagued

00:23:36.860 with prosecutorial

00:23:37.640 abuse from the

00:23:38.340 start

00:23:38.600 federal agents

00:23:39.360 seized all

00:23:40.880 your accessible

00:23:41.640 assets

00:23:42.400 prematurely

00:23:43.280 in May

00:23:43.980 of 2021

00:23:44.820 but that's

00:23:46.080 nearly a year

00:23:46.760 before any

00:23:47.400 charges were

00:23:48.120 filed against

00:23:48.820 you in May

00:23:49.420 of 2022

00:23:50.720 violating

00:23:51.540 requirement

00:23:52.260 to file

00:23:53.220 charges

00:23:53.760 within 90

00:23:54.640 days

00:23:55.080 or return

00:23:56.360 the seized

00:23:57.080 assets

00:23:57.660 this include

00:23:59.080 placing a

00:24:00.200 what's called

00:24:01.200 a Liz

00:24:01.760 pendens

00:24:02.580 a public

00:24:03.180 notice

00:24:03.600 that a

00:24:04.340 particular

00:24:04.680 property

00:24:05.140 has a

00:24:05.580 claim

00:24:05.840 against it

00:24:06.440 on your

00:24:06.840 family home

00:24:07.600 that had

00:24:08.340 been purchased

00:24:08.920 three years

00:24:09.760 well before

00:24:10.920 the COVID-19

00:24:11.900 pandemic

00:24:12.680 even occurred

00:24:13.600 as part of

00:24:14.780 the plan

00:24:15.300 to squeeze

00:24:16.060 you and

00:24:16.540 coerce you

00:24:17.480 into entering

00:24:18.560 a plea

00:24:19.720 agreement

00:24:20.640 I still

00:24:22.540 find the

00:24:23.700 entire thing

00:24:24.460 incredible

00:24:25.000 because

00:24:25.560 you were

00:24:27.400 bled dry

00:24:28.140 you had

00:24:28.860 already paid

00:24:29.620 back

00:24:30.180 virtually all

00:24:32.300 of the PPP

00:24:33.020 loan

00:24:33.540 yet they

00:24:34.200 decided to

00:24:35.040 destroy you

00:24:36.340 financially

00:24:37.040 anyway

00:24:37.780 when the

00:24:39.340 matter could

00:24:39.940 have been

00:24:40.460 civilly

00:24:41.500 quite easily

00:24:42.380 settled

00:24:42.760 simply by

00:24:43.420 paying them

00:24:44.340 back

00:24:44.680 you operated

00:24:45.260 on the basis

00:24:45.860 of bad

00:24:47.100 advice

00:24:47.760 but they

00:24:48.560 had no

00:24:48.900 interest

00:24:49.500 in that

00:24:50.080 in fact

00:24:51.240 as I

00:24:51.580 understand

00:24:52.020 it

00:24:52.260 the

00:24:52.940 plea

00:24:53.360 deal

00:24:53.860 banned

00:24:54.860 any

00:24:55.220 negotiation

00:24:56.020 that would

00:24:56.700 have

00:24:56.800 prevented

00:24:57.220 you

00:24:57.980 from

00:24:58.280 arguing

00:24:58.680 for a

00:24:59.120 reduced

00:24:59.440 sentence

00:24:59.960 you

00:25:02.480 and

00:25:02.900 you

00:25:03.100 have

00:25:03.280 two

00:25:03.580 small

00:25:04.100 children

00:25:04.500 yet

00:25:05.740 they

00:25:06.020 insisted

00:25:06.480 that

00:25:07.040 despite

00:25:07.940 the fact

00:25:08.500 that you

00:25:08.680 were

00:25:08.800 first-time

00:25:09.440 non-violent

00:25:10.540 non-drug

00:25:11.560 related

00:25:12.540 offenders

00:25:13.100 that you

00:25:14.280 had to

00:25:15.260 do

00:25:15.600 serious

00:25:16.380 time

00:25:16.900 ripping 0.97

00:25:18.300 your

00:25:19.200 wife

00:25:19.580 now

00:25:20.020 who's

00:25:20.360 still

00:25:20.560 behind

00:25:20.880 bars

00:25:21.260 away

00:25:21.860 from

00:25:22.060 two

00:25:22.300 young

00:25:22.600 children

00:25:23.000 this

00:25:23.980 is

00:25:24.600 really

00:25:25.320 quite

00:25:25.680 incredible

00:25:26.180 no

00:25:27.860 I

00:25:28.180 agree

00:25:28.880 and

00:25:29.380 the

00:25:29.840 whole

00:25:30.200 the

00:25:30.780 problem

00:25:31.180 with the

00:25:31.560 house

00:25:31.840 is

00:25:32.100 when

00:25:32.440 we

00:25:32.660 got

00:25:32.900 served

00:25:33.280 our

00:25:33.480 target

00:25:33.820 letter

00:25:34.100 we

00:25:34.260 had

00:25:34.440 over

00:25:34.640 a

00:25:34.780 million

00:25:35.000 dollars

00:25:35.360 in

00:25:35.520 equity

00:25:35.800 in

00:25:36.000 that

00:25:36.180 house

00:25:36.540 and

00:25:37.720 we

00:25:37.840 couldn't

00:25:38.040 pull

00:25:38.360 any

00:25:38.760 cash

00:25:39.080 out

00:25:39.320 for

00:25:39.560 legal

00:25:39.860 assistance

00:25:40.280 so

00:25:40.600 we

00:25:40.740 got

00:25:40.920 stuck

00:25:41.380 with

00:25:41.780 hawaiian

00:25:43.700 court

00:25:43.980 appointed

00:25:44.320 attorneys

00:25:44.760 which

00:25:45.000 aren't

00:25:46.140 court

00:25:46.640 appointed

00:25:46.940 they

00:25:47.400 are

00:25:47.660 literally

00:25:48.020 it's

00:25:48.340 a

00:25:48.460 panel

00:25:48.820 of

00:25:49.200 attorneys

00:25:49.680 and

00:25:49.880 you

00:25:50.000 look

00:25:50.200 any

00:25:50.440 of

00:25:50.600 them

00:25:50.740 up

00:25:50.980 and

00:25:51.100 they're

00:25:51.240 literally

00:25:51.660 their

00:25:51.880 main

00:25:52.100 focus

00:25:52.500 is

00:25:52.860 personal

00:25:53.240 injury

00:25:53.660 so

00:25:55.180 they

00:25:55.340 had

00:25:56.180 no

00:25:56.600 idea

00:25:57.180 what

00:25:57.420 they

00:25:57.580 were

00:25:57.700 doing

00:25:57.960 and

00:25:58.120 any

00:25:58.300 time

00:25:58.520 we

00:25:58.680 would

00:25:58.860 push 0.64

00:25:59.160 them

00:25:59.520 to

00:26:00.220 like

00:26:00.460 hey

00:26:00.720 look

00:26:01.400 at

00:26:01.540 what

00:26:01.800 you

00:26:01.920 just

00:26:02.120 said

00:26:02.340 about

00:26:02.580 the

00:26:02.880 assets

00:26:03.420 being

00:26:03.740 seized

00:26:04.200 ahead

00:26:05.680 of

00:26:05.880 time

00:26:06.180 instead

00:26:07.140 of

00:26:07.400 actually

00:26:07.800 doing

00:26:08.180 anything

00:26:08.540 they

00:26:08.960 just

00:26:09.220 went

00:26:09.660 to

00:26:09.800 the

00:26:09.960 court

00:26:10.180 and

00:26:10.300 has

00:26:10.520 to

00:26:10.640 be

00:26:10.820 removed

00:26:11.260 that

00:26:12.240 went

00:26:12.400 on

00:26:12.720 for

00:26:13.800 almost

00:26:14.040 two

00:26:14.260 years

00:26:14.620 until

00:26:14.940 my

00:26:15.160 father-in-law

00:26:15.740 saw

00:26:16.060 all this

00:26:16.440 and

00:26:16.640 luckily

00:26:17.420 he

00:26:17.640 had

00:26:17.800 a

00:26:17.900 little

00:26:18.040 bit

00:26:18.200 of

00:26:18.340 money

00:26:18.520 saved

00:26:18.860 up

00:26:19.040 so

00:26:19.200 we

00:26:19.380 finally

00:26:19.700 were

00:26:19.960 able

00:26:20.140 to

00:26:20.420 hire

00:26:21.240 a

00:26:22.000 private

00:26:22.780 attorney

00:26:23.220 but

00:26:24.120 at

00:26:24.240 that

00:26:24.460 time

00:26:24.820 that's

00:26:25.500 when

00:26:25.680 the

00:26:26.320 government

00:26:26.640 was

00:26:26.900 saying

00:26:27.100 if

00:26:27.260 you

00:26:27.340 don't

00:26:27.500 take

00:26:27.680 this

00:26:27.880 plea

00:26:28.180 we're

00:26:29.220 going

00:26:29.320 to

00:26:29.440 file

00:26:29.660 charges

00:26:30.060 against

00:26:30.380 my

00:26:30.700 mom

00:26:31.020 who's

00:26:31.360 77

00:26:31.920 and

00:26:32.500 has

00:26:32.700 had

00:26:39.220 to

00:26:39.340 get

00:26:39.500 us

00:26:39.680 to

00:26:39.940 plea

00:26:40.480 it

00:26:41.480 was

00:26:41.680 it

00:26:41.960 was

00:26:42.120 just

00:26:42.380 disgusting

00:26:43.040 precisely

00:26:43.920 what they

00:26:44.300 did to

00:26:44.640 general

00:26:44.920 Flynn

00:26:45.260 threatening

00:26:45.680 to

00:26:46.180 charge

00:26:46.960 his

00:26:47.300 son

00:26:47.840 if

00:26:48.420 he

00:26:48.700 did

00:26:49.620 not

00:26:49.920 a

00:26:50.180 plea

00:26:50.500 to

00:26:50.900 take

00:26:51.260 a

00:26:51.480 plea

00:26:51.720 or

00:26:52.020 former

00:26:52.780 upstate

00:26:53.300 New York

00:26:53.620 congressman

00:26:54.120 Chris

00:26:54.400 Collins

00:26:54.940 who

00:26:55.880 they

00:26:56.100 charged

00:26:56.440 with

00:26:56.600 insider

00:26:57.020 trading

00:26:57.480 despite

00:26:57.800 the fact

00:26:58.120 that

00:26:58.340 there's

00:26:58.840 no

00:26:59.000 evidence

00:26:59.360 that he

00:26:59.800 conducted

00:27:00.860 any

00:27:01.220 inside

00:27:01.740 trading

00:27:02.180 but

00:27:02.880 they

00:27:03.040 threatened

00:27:03.340 to

00:27:03.560 indict

00:27:03.920 his

00:27:04.620 young

00:27:05.160 son

00:27:05.560 if

00:27:05.800 he

00:27:05.940 did

00:27:06.100 not

00:27:06.380 plead

00:27:06.680 guilty

00:27:07.040 the

00:27:07.640 most

00:27:07.860 stunning

00:27:08.140 thing

00:27:08.360 about

00:27:08.560 your

00:27:08.720 case

00:27:09.080 is

00:27:09.280 learning

00:27:09.620 that

00:27:09.900 the

00:27:10.200 U.S.

00:27:10.880 attorney

00:27:11.140 used

00:27:11.680 the

00:27:11.840 money

00:27:12.000 you

00:27:12.180 paid

00:27:12.440 back

00:27:12.900 to

00:27:13.440 turn

00:27:13.680 around

00:27:13.920 and

00:27:14.080 try

00:27:14.260 to

00:27:14.420 buy

00:27:14.960 your

00:27:15.360 family

00:27:15.760 home

00:27:16.200 in

00:27:16.740 the

00:27:16.880 foreclosure

00:27:17.420 sale

00:27:17.840 in

00:27:18.260 fact

00:27:18.380 they

00:27:18.580 actually

00:27:18.880 sent

00:27:19.400 agents

00:27:19.920 to

00:27:20.140 go

00:27:20.340 bid

00:27:20.740 on

00:27:20.980 it

00:27:21.120 so

00:27:21.560 they

00:27:21.800 forced

00:27:22.220 a

00:27:22.420 foreclosure

00:27:23.140 instead

00:27:23.440 of

00:27:23.640 allowing

00:27:24.040 a

00:27:24.300 normal

00:27:24.900 sale

00:27:25.360 which

00:27:25.960 would

00:27:26.160 have

00:27:26.280 allowed

00:27:26.520 you

00:27:26.700 to

00:27:26.860 keep

00:27:27.120 some

00:27:27.700 equity

00:27:28.120 on

00:27:28.320 top

00:27:28.560 of

00:27:28.720 that

00:27:29.080 as

00:27:29.780 I

00:27:29.940 understand

00:27:30.300 it

00:27:30.480 the

00:27:30.640 government

00:27:30.940 hasn't

00:27:31.660 applied

00:27:32.080 the

00:27:32.320 money

00:27:32.600 that

00:27:33.140 you

00:27:33.300 paid

00:27:33.600 back

00:27:33.960 towards

00:27:34.400 restitution

00:27:35.200 even

00:27:35.920 though

00:27:36.120 the

00:27:36.280 court

00:27:36.500 transcript

00:27:37.020 clearly

00:27:37.540 states

00:27:38.000 that

00:27:38.320 that

00:27:38.600 is

00:27:38.960 what

00:27:39.140 the

00:27:39.260 money

00:27:39.500 would

00:27:39.840 be

00:27:39.980 used

00:27:40.200 for

00:27:40.420 so

00:27:40.960 in

00:27:41.120 other

00:27:41.300 words

00:27:41.580 they

00:27:41.960 double

00:27:42.280 dipped

00:27:42.600 they

00:27:43.100 stole

00:27:43.480 your

00:27:43.700 home

00:27:44.020 and

00:27:44.640 they

00:27:44.800 got

00:27:44.960 to

00:27:45.120 keep

00:27:45.540 your

00:27:45.980 money

00:27:46.280 this

00:27:47.640 is

00:27:47.820 a

00:27:47.980 cautionary

00:27:48.540 tale

00:27:48.900 because

00:27:49.360 what

00:27:49.920 happened

00:27:50.240 to

00:27:50.480 you

00:27:50.780 and

00:27:51.280 your

00:27:51.440 wife

00:27:51.760 Erin

00:27:52.080 can

00:27:52.840 happen

00:27:53.160 to

00:27:53.500 any

00:27:54.120 American

00:27:54.840 no

00:27:56.660 I

00:27:56.800 agree

00:27:57.040 and

00:27:57.200 it

00:27:59.940 about

00:28:00.180 the

00:28:00.380 foreclosure

00:28:00.900 sale

00:28:01.180 because

00:28:01.500 I

00:28:02.360 just

00:28:02.540 remember

00:28:02.780 I

00:28:03.000 was

00:28:03.100 talking

00:28:03.320 to

00:28:03.420 my

00:28:03.560 best

00:28:03.800 friend

00:28:04.160 on

00:28:04.620 the

00:28:04.780 phone

00:28:05.120 right

00:28:05.560 after

00:28:05.940 I

00:28:06.600 told

00:28:06.840 him

00:28:06.960 what

00:28:07.100 our

00:28:07.300 sentence

00:28:07.580 was

00:28:07.960 and

00:28:08.100 we

00:28:08.220 were

00:28:08.360 basically

00:28:08.700 crying

00:28:09.140 together

00:28:09.480 on

00:28:09.700 the

00:28:09.840 phone

00:28:10.060 I've

00:28:10.340 known

00:28:10.540 him

00:28:10.740 since

00:28:10.920 seventh

00:28:11.260 grade

00:28:11.620 and

00:28:11.800 he's

00:28:12.040 a

00:28:13.120 very

00:28:13.520 successful

00:28:15.000 mortgage

00:28:15.460 broker

00:28:15.840 and

00:28:16.660 he

00:28:17.120 said

00:28:18.200 well

00:28:18.520 let me

00:28:19.000 see if

00:28:19.700 I can

00:28:19.920 just

00:28:20.100 buy

00:28:20.340 your

00:28:20.520 house

00:28:20.760 for

00:28:20.980 you

00:28:21.220 at

00:28:21.500 the

00:28:21.700 sale

00:28:22.080 when

00:28:22.820 is

00:28:23.020 it

00:28:23.140 they're

00:28:23.700 doing

00:28:24.020 it

00:28:24.180 12

00:28:24.600 days

00:28:24.940 the

00:28:25.280 sale

00:28:25.580 was

00:28:25.820 scheduled

00:28:26.380 for

00:28:26.660 12

00:28:27.000 days

00:28:27.260 after

00:28:27.540 our

00:28:27.740 sentencing

00:28:28.140 so

00:28:29.260 he

00:28:29.480 has

00:28:29.800 his

00:28:29.980 guy

00:28:30.260 that's

00:28:30.500 been

00:28:30.640 doing

00:28:30.840 this

00:28:31.080 for

00:28:31.220 30

00:28:31.620 years

00:28:31.940 buying

00:28:32.260 foreclosed

00:28:32.820 sales

00:28:33.240 at

00:28:34.500 the

00:28:34.680 auction

00:28:35.000 you know

00:28:35.880 he had

00:28:36.060 a certain

00:28:36.300 amount

00:28:36.560 he was

00:28:36.840 going to

00:28:37.000 be able

00:28:37.280 to

00:28:37.440 spend

00:28:37.780 and

00:28:38.460 it

00:28:38.680 went

00:28:38.920 over

00:28:39.220 that

00:28:39.500 but

00:28:39.700 I

00:28:39.940 have

00:28:40.160 the

00:28:40.320 text

00:28:40.560 message

00:28:40.940 and

00:28:41.080 I

00:28:41.160 think

00:28:41.300 I

00:28:41.420 sent

00:28:41.640 you

00:28:41.820 a

00:28:42.000 copy

00:28:42.240 of

00:28:42.400 it

00:28:42.500 like

00:28:42.700 the

00:28:43.660 guy

00:28:44.200 said

00:28:44.560 it

00:28:44.960 was

00:28:45.080 unusual

00:28:45.520 because

00:28:45.960 federal

00:28:46.400 agents

00:28:46.840 were

00:28:47.060 at

00:28:47.340 the

00:28:47.800 auction

00:28:48.120 bidding

00:28:48.540 and

00:28:49.920 they

00:28:50.100 didn't

00:28:50.380 win

00:28:50.660 the

00:28:50.900 house

00:28:51.160 ended

00:28:51.560 up

00:28:51.840 going

00:28:52.000 back

00:28:52.280 to

00:28:52.420 the

00:28:52.560 mortgage

00:28:52.860 lender

00:28:53.320 but

00:28:54.200 I

00:28:54.560 mean

00:28:54.940 I

00:28:55.580 would

00:28:55.740 have

00:28:55.860 never

00:28:56.080 known

00:28:56.360 that

00:28:56.600 unless

00:28:56.880 he

00:28:57.240 would

00:28:57.560 have

00:28:57.680 offered

00:28:58.040 to

00:28:58.480 purchase

00:28:59.400 it

00:28:59.720 and

00:29:00.280 yeah

00:29:01.920 the

00:29:02.260 restitution

00:29:03.720 is

00:29:05.060 it's

00:29:05.980 a battle

00:29:06.380 I just

00:29:06.860 got off

00:29:07.180 the phone

00:29:07.460 with my

00:29:07.860 attorney

00:29:08.200 and he's

00:29:08.700 going to

00:29:08.820 be

00:29:08.940 writing

00:29:09.200 a letter

00:29:10.340 to

00:29:10.860 the

00:29:12.120 DC

00:29:12.440 office

00:29:12.840 about

00:29:13.400 having

00:29:13.740 that

00:29:14.040 put

00:29:14.620 in

00:29:14.880 from

00:29:15.100 the

00:29:15.260 forfeiture

00:29:15.700 to

00:29:15.960 restitution

00:29:16.660 but

00:29:17.740 no one

00:29:18.140 knows

00:29:18.320 where

00:29:18.440 the

00:29:18.560 money

00:29:18.700 is

00:29:18.960 like

00:29:19.520 I've

00:29:20.280 asked

00:29:20.620 and

00:29:20.820 nobody

00:29:21.480 can

00:29:21.860 I've

00:29:22.540 written

00:29:22.720 multiple

00:29:23.140 letters

00:29:23.480 to the

00:29:23.920 district

00:29:24.180 of Hawaii

00:29:24.720 to the

00:29:25.500 court

00:29:25.800 and no

00:29:26.660 one

00:29:26.820 knows

00:29:27.040 where

00:29:27.240 it

00:29:27.360 is

00:29:27.620 so

00:29:28.160 that's

00:29:28.880 a little

00:29:29.180 concerning

00:29:29.760 I must

00:29:31.400 ask you

00:29:31.820 on a

00:29:32.040 personal

00:29:32.300 level

00:29:32.560 how has

00:29:33.000 the

00:29:33.140 impact

00:29:33.600 been

00:29:33.840 on

00:29:34.020 your

00:29:34.160 wife

00:29:34.440 Erin

00:29:34.780 and

00:29:35.040 your

00:29:35.220 kids

00:29:35.560 you

00:29:37.220 know

00:29:37.560 Erin

00:29:37.940 is

00:29:38.220 a

00:29:38.400 very

00:29:38.780 strong

00:29:39.580 woman 0.99

00:29:40.140 that's

00:29:40.680 what

00:29:40.820 I

00:29:40.980 fell

00:29:41.300 in

00:29:41.460 love

00:29:41.640 with

00:29:41.900 when

00:29:44.020 she

00:29:44.520 first

00:29:45.160 had

00:29:45.720 to

00:29:46.200 surrender

00:29:46.840 the

00:29:47.320 judge

00:29:47.660 was

00:29:48.080 cruel

00:29:49.580 and

00:29:49.900 made

00:29:50.120 her

00:29:50.460 surrender

00:29:50.880 to

00:29:51.120 the

00:29:51.300 what

00:29:51.780 it

00:29:51.920 let

00:29:52.060 her

00:29:52.180 get

00:29:52.360 designated

00:29:52.760 to

00:29:53.140 her

00:29:53.340 camp

00:29:53.760 she

00:29:54.120 had

00:29:54.260 to

00:29:54.400 surrender

00:29:54.760 to

00:29:55.320 the

00:29:56.320 marshal

00:29:56.660 services

00:29:57.140 in

00:29:57.420 Fresno

00:29:57.860 we live

00:29:58.460 in

00:29:58.660 San

00:29:58.840 Lisbon

00:29:59.060 California

00:29:59.680 so it's

00:30:00.220 an hour

00:30:00.760 and a half

00:30:01.060 drive

00:30:01.360 and I

00:30:01.600 took her

00:30:01.960 there

00:30:02.220 and the

00:30:03.120 marshals

00:30:03.540 didn't

00:30:03.740 understand

00:30:04.400 why

00:30:04.780 she

00:30:04.980 was

00:30:05.180 there

00:30:05.540 they

00:30:06.280 didn't

00:30:06.460 know

00:30:06.600 what

00:30:06.760 to

00:30:06.880 do

00:30:07.060 with

00:30:07.240 her

00:30:07.380 so they

00:30:07.720 put

00:30:07.980 her

00:30:08.160 in

00:30:08.340 county

00:30:08.660 jail

00:30:09.140 in

00:30:09.420 Fresno

00:30:09.880 for

00:30:10.200 almost

00:30:10.560 three

00:30:10.920 weeks

00:30:11.360 it was

00:30:13.620 the toughest

00:30:14.020 thing

00:30:14.360 she's

00:30:14.700 ever

00:30:14.940 been

00:30:15.200 through

00:30:15.600 and

00:30:17.020 is

00:30:17.140 one

00:30:17.280 of the

00:30:17.440 toughest

00:30:17.620 things

00:30:17.920 I've

00:30:18.140 ever

00:30:18.300 had

00:30:18.460 to

00:30:18.580 hear

00:30:18.820 on

00:30:18.960 the

00:30:19.060 other

00:30:19.220 end

00:30:19.440 of

00:30:19.540 a

00:30:19.660 phone

00:30:19.920 is

00:30:20.100 her

00:30:20.220 husband

00:30:20.540 she

00:30:22.840 is

00:30:23.060 fine

00:30:23.760 now

00:30:24.240 in

00:30:24.880 her

00:30:25.200 camp

00:30:25.580 in

00:30:25.800 Victorville

00:30:26.580 obviously

00:30:27.700 it's

00:30:28.240 not

00:30:28.460 ideal

00:30:29.040 but

00:30:29.500 she's

00:30:29.980 just

00:30:30.180 kind

00:30:30.480 of

00:30:30.560 keeping

00:30:30.780 her

00:30:30.960 head

00:30:31.120 down

00:30:31.400 and

00:30:31.620 praying

00:30:31.960 every

00:30:32.240 day

00:30:32.500 that

00:30:32.840 well

00:30:33.960 we

00:30:34.740 can

00:30:34.920 get

00:30:35.060 the

00:30:35.200 truth

00:30:35.380 out

00:30:35.600 there

00:30:35.820 and

00:30:36.020 somebody

00:30:36.400 with

00:30:37.240 some

00:30:37.420 power

00:30:37.680 can

00:30:37.940 can

00:30:38.360 can

00:30:39.020 with

00:30:39.600 and

00:30:39.860 some

00:30:40.040 common

00:30:40.340 sense

00:30:40.700 can

00:30:40.980 actually

00:30:41.860 see

00:30:42.220 what

00:30:42.560 happened

00:30:42.960 to

00:30:43.180 us

00:30:43.480 obviously

00:30:45.300 the

00:30:45.540 conditions

00:30:45.920 aren't

00:30:46.280 great

00:30:46.620 but

00:30:47.040 you know

00:30:47.460 what

00:30:47.620 she

00:30:47.780 said

00:30:48.060 most

00:30:48.620 of

00:30:48.760 the

00:30:48.860 guards

00:30:49.120 and

00:30:49.280 everyone

00:30:49.540 there

00:30:49.860 is

00:30:50.100 friendly

00:30:50.780 and

00:30:51.340 understanding

00:30:52.360 of

00:30:52.660 the

00:30:53.060 majority

00:30:53.400 of

00:30:53.560 the

00:30:53.580 people

00:30:53.800 so

00:30:53.980 she

00:30:54.120 doesn't

00:30:54.340 have

00:30:54.620 bad

00:30:56.080 bad

00:30:56.340 things

00:30:56.580 to

00:30:56.740 say

00:30:56.980 about

00:30:57.300 where

00:30:57.480 she

00:30:57.660 is

00:30:57.900 but

00:30:58.100 obviously

00:30:58.500 this

00:30:59.240 woman 0.99

00:30:59.480 has

00:30:59.840 never

00:31:00.020 had

00:31:00.200 a

00:31:00.320 parking

00:31:00.580 ticket

00:31:00.920 since

00:31:01.180 I've

00:31:01.440 known

00:31:02.080 her

00:31:02.300 so

00:31:02.660 to

00:31:03.540 even

00:31:03.800 be

00:31:04.160 anywhere

00:31:04.560 near

00:31:04.860 a

00:31:05.020 federal

00:31:05.240 facility

00:31:05.800 is

00:31:06.200 ridiculous

00:31:07.640 so

00:31:08.900 Chris

00:31:09.300 have

00:31:09.900 you

00:31:10.160 thought

00:31:10.780 about

00:31:11.040 setting

00:31:11.420 up

00:31:11.700 a

00:31:12.060 GoFundMe

00:31:12.660 or

00:31:13.000 a

00:31:13.960 website

00:31:14.280 where

00:31:14.580 people

00:31:14.840 can

00:31:15.140 keep

00:31:15.420 track

00:31:15.760 of

00:31:15.900 your

00:31:16.020 case

00:31:16.340 and

00:31:16.480 maybe

00:31:16.660 offer

00:31:16.960 support

00:31:17.480 not

00:31:19.020 really

00:31:21.420 I

00:31:21.640 mean

00:31:21.760 I

00:31:22.080 I've

00:31:23.080 been

00:31:23.280 so

00:31:23.540 busy

00:31:23.800 we

00:31:24.000 own

00:31:24.280 business

00:31:24.840 through

00:31:25.160 all

00:31:25.480 of

00:31:25.600 this

00:31:25.740 we

00:31:25.900 were

00:31:26.020 able

00:31:26.160 to

00:31:26.340 start

00:31:26.620 a

00:31:26.940 whole

00:31:27.080 other

00:31:27.320 business

00:31:27.680 under

00:31:28.140 the

00:31:28.800 most

00:31:29.120 trying

00:31:30.280 of

00:31:30.480 times

00:31:30.860 and

00:31:31.160 you

00:31:32.160 know

00:31:32.580 it's

00:31:33.180 doing

00:31:33.400 really

00:31:33.700 good

00:31:33.980 so

00:31:34.140 that

00:31:34.320 takes

00:31:34.580 the

00:31:34.720 majority

00:31:35.080 of

00:31:35.200 my

00:31:35.320 focus

00:31:35.620 and

00:31:35.820 obviously

00:31:36.140 I'm

00:31:36.480 raising

00:31:36.900 two

00:31:37.680 young

00:31:37.920 boys

00:31:38.220 as

00:31:38.480 a

00:31:39.520 pseudo

00:31:39.840 single

00:31:40.680 father

00:31:41.140 right

00:31:41.440 now

00:31:41.820 and

00:31:43.700 you

00:31:44.840 know

00:31:45.000 they're

00:31:45.560 hanging

00:31:45.860 in there

00:31:46.260 our oldest

00:31:46.740 obviously

00:31:47.360 was more

00:31:47.900 of a

00:31:48.120 mama's

00:31:48.420 boy

00:31:48.660 and

00:31:49.120 I

00:31:49.700 can

00:31:49.840 tell

00:31:50.080 he

00:31:50.300 misses

00:31:50.780 Aaron

00:31:51.140 our

00:31:51.980 youngest

00:31:52.280 Nico

00:31:52.640 he

00:31:54.480 always

00:31:54.880 looked

00:31:55.120 more

00:31:55.360 up

00:31:55.500 to

00:31:55.620 me

00:31:55.840 so

00:31:56.060 I

00:31:56.220 think

00:31:56.460 he

00:31:56.880 isn't

00:31:57.340 getting

00:31:57.720 hit

00:31:58.000 with

00:31:58.240 the

00:31:58.360 effect

00:31:58.680 of

00:31:58.840 it

00:31:59.000 as

00:31:59.320 much

00:31:59.680 but

00:32:00.100 we

00:32:03.340 don't

00:32:03.520 need

00:32:03.700 the

00:32:03.900 money

00:32:04.140 I

00:32:04.400 don't

00:32:04.560 care

00:32:04.800 about

00:32:05.040 money

00:32:05.380 I

00:32:05.700 just

00:32:05.900 care

00:32:06.100 about

00:32:06.320 getting

00:32:06.560 her

00:32:06.760 home

00:32:07.100 but

00:32:07.400 obviously

00:32:08.120 our

00:32:08.320 story

00:32:08.760 could

00:32:09.060 make

00:32:09.280 an

00:32:09.400 impact

00:32:09.800 for

00:32:10.080 other

00:32:10.320 people

00:32:10.640 so

00:32:11.600 I've

00:32:11.840 thought

00:32:12.060 about

00:32:12.400 starting

00:32:13.340 some

00:32:13.600 kind

00:32:13.820 of

00:32:13.940 blog

00:32:14.300 or

00:32:14.500 something

00:32:14.780 like

00:32:15.060 that

00:32:15.260 obviously

00:32:15.580 Aaron's

00:32:16.020 keeping

00:32:16.260 notes

00:32:16.680 and

00:32:16.920 we

00:32:17.500 are

00:32:17.660 writers

00:32:17.980 so

00:32:18.340 obviously

00:32:18.720 this

00:32:19.020 could

00:32:19.240 be

00:32:19.580 a

00:32:20.420 book

00:32:20.640 someday

00:32:21.000 or

00:32:21.200 a

00:32:21.360 documentary

00:32:21.820 or

00:32:22.120 something

00:32:22.420 that

00:32:22.840 would

00:32:23.920 just

00:32:24.300 blow 0.77

00:32:24.560 you

00:32:24.760 away

00:32:25.060 on

00:32:25.360 what

00:32:26.580 can

00:32:26.760 happen

00:32:27.040 to

00:32:27.340 a

00:32:27.700 normal

00:32:27.920 family

00:32:28.320 all

00:32:28.860 right

00:32:29.080 Chris

00:32:29.400 Mousset

00:32:29.740 thank you

00:32:30.220 so much

00:32:30.720 for coming

00:32:31.420 into the

00:32:31.840 stone

00:32:32.040 zone

00:32:32.240 telling us

00:32:32.800 your

00:32:32.940 story

00:32:33.240 today

00:32:33.520 and

00:32:33.820 we

00:32:34.380 will

00:32:34.560 be

00:32:34.760 praying

00:32:35.100 for

00:32:35.360 you

00:32:35.700 and

00:32:36.320 your

00:32:36.520 wife

00:32:36.800 Aaron

00:32:37.100 and

00:32:37.700 your

00:32:37.860 two

00:32:38.120 young

00:32:38.420 boys

00:32:38.800 don't

00:32:39.480 go

00:32:39.640 away

00:32:39.880 folks

00:32:40.200 I'll

00:32:40.480 be

00:32:40.600 right

00:32:40.820 back

00:32:41.180 in

00:32:41.520 the

00:32:41.740 stone

00:32:41.980 zone

00:32:42.300 whether

00:32:43.540 the

00:32:47.980 in

00:32:48.400 an

00:32:48.540 article

00:32:48.800 investigating

00:32:49.540 the

00:32:49.960 quote

00:32:50.500 mysterious

00:32:51.080 drop

00:32:51.580 in

00:32:51.760 fentanyl

00:32:52.240 seizures

00:32:52.620 on

00:32:53.320 the

00:32:53.480 U.S.-Mexico

00:32:54.420 border

00:32:54.780 the

00:32:54.940 Washington

00:32:55.240 Post

00:32:55.580 explores

00:32:56.320 what they

00:32:56.640 call

00:32:56.900 a new

00:32:57.280 and

00:32:57.460 puzzling

00:32:58.020 reality

00:32:58.640 the

00:32:59.300 explanation

00:32:59.760 they

00:33:00.180 say

00:33:00.440 is

00:33:00.760 complex

00:33:01.700 of

00:33:01.960 course

00:33:02.160 it's

00:33:02.340 only

00:33:02.540 puzzling

00:33:03.060 and

00:33:03.500 complex

00:33:03.920 if

00:33:04.200 one

00:33:04.380 refuses

00:33:04.800 to

00:33:05.020 acknowledge

00:33:05.520 that

00:33:06.180 President

00:33:06.600 Donald

00:33:07.000 Trump

00:33:07.420 has

00:33:07.960 stemmed

00:33:08.660 the

00:33:08.900 flow

00:33:09.200 of

00:33:09.440 drug

00:33:09.700 smuggling

00:33:10.080 by

00:33:10.840 enforcing

00:33:11.620 the

00:33:11.960 law

00:33:12.400 against

00:33:12.880 illegals 0.93

00:33:13.560 entering

00:33:14.040 the

00:33:14.280 country

00:33:14.700 on

00:33:15.320 our

00:33:15.540 southern

00:33:16.040 border

00:33:16.640 fentanyl

00:33:17.500 seizures

00:33:17.900 have

00:33:18.300 plummeted

00:33:18.800 from

00:33:19.020 1700

00:33:20.040 pounds

00:33:20.900 in

00:33:21.960 2024

00:33:23.540 to

00:33:24.020 746

00:33:25.460 pounds

00:33:26.060 in

00:33:26.280 2025

00:33:26.940 according

00:33:27.940 to

00:33:28.400 the

00:33:28.660 Washington

00:33:29.280 Post

00:33:29.840 the

00:33:30.380 declines

00:33:30.920 occurring

00:33:31.380 even

00:33:31.760 as

00:33:31.980 the

00:33:32.100 Trump

00:33:32.320 administration

00:33:32.920 has

00:33:33.280 deployed

00:33:33.700 thousands

00:33:34.440 of

00:33:34.740 troops

00:33:35.000 to

00:33:35.160 the

00:33:35.280 borders

00:33:35.580 and

00:33:35.780 expanded

00:33:36.300 drone

00:33:37.000 flights

00:33:37.380 with

00:33:37.620 more

00:33:37.860 boots

00:33:38.080 on

00:33:38.280 the

00:33:38.400 ground

00:33:38.720 you'd

00:33:39.620 think

00:33:39.960 that

00:33:40.160 seizures

00:33:40.480 would

00:33:40.820 go

00:33:41.060 up

00:33:41.420 not

00:33:41.900 down

00:33:42.380 now

00:33:43.060 you might

00:33:43.540 think

00:33:43.840 that

00:33:44.060 if you

00:33:44.340 fail

00:33:44.600 to

00:33:44.760 consider

00:33:45.080 for a

00:33:45.440 second

00:33:45.660 that

00:33:45.980 the

00:33:46.200 thousands

00:33:47.000 of

00:33:47.240 boots

00:33:47.460 on

00:33:48.020 the

00:33:48.140 ground

00:33:48.460 provide

00:33:48.900 deterrence

00:33:49.600 against

00:33:50.020 Mexican

00:33:50.800 drug

00:33:51.420 cartels

00:33:52.020 avoiding

00:33:52.940 being

00:33:53.280 thrown

00:33:53.780 in

00:33:54.020 prison

00:33:54.320 something

00:33:54.700 cartels

00:33:55.260 don't

00:33:55.840 have to

00:33:56.160 worry

00:33:56.420 about

00:33:56.800 so much

00:33:57.700 under

00:33:58.020 Joe

00:33:58.580 Biden

00:33:58.940 is

00:33:59.140 undoubtedly

00:33:59.600 a

00:33:59.960 significant

00:34:00.400 factor

00:34:01.240 in the

00:34:01.700 drop

00:34:02.100 of

00:34:02.300 narcotics

00:34:02.900 seizures

00:34:03.440 a

00:34:04.220 White House

00:34:04.600 spokeswoman

00:34:05.140 responded

00:34:05.740 to the

00:34:06.020 Washington

00:34:06.300 Post

00:34:06.540 by saying

00:34:07.100 the

00:34:07.680 drop

00:34:08.100 in

00:34:08.320 fentanyl

00:34:09.220 seizures

00:34:09.740 at the

00:34:10.160 border

00:34:10.640 is only

00:34:11.080 a mystery

00:34:11.560 to the

00:34:12.300 Washington

00:34:12.680 Post

00:34:12.980 reporters

00:34:13.420 suffering

00:34:14.140 from a

00:34:14.700 severe case

00:34:15.520 of

00:34:15.740 Trump

00:34:16.380 derangement

00:34:17.440 syndrome

00:34:18.060 also known

00:34:18.780 as

00:34:19.020 TDS

00:34:20.340 everyone

00:34:21.460 else

00:34:22.280 not

00:34:22.880 affected

00:34:23.280 by

00:34:23.580 TDS

00:34:24.260 knows

00:34:25.040 the

00:34:25.300 simple

00:34:25.580 truth

00:34:26.060 that

00:34:26.660 President

00:34:27.060 Trump's

00:34:27.600 closed

00:34:28.320 our border

00:34:28.800 to illegal

00:34:29.380 drug

00:34:29.660 traffickers

00:34:30.200 and Americans

00:34:30.920 are safer

00:34:31.760 because of

00:34:32.360 it

00:34:32.540 as of

00:34:33.460 March

00:34:33.800 fentanyl

00:34:34.300 traffic

00:34:34.700 at the

00:34:34.960 southern

00:34:35.180 border

00:34:35.420 had fallen

00:34:35.900 by more

00:34:36.780 than half

00:34:37.380 of the

00:34:37.680 same amount

00:34:38.300 last year

00:34:38.960 while Joe

00:34:39.940 Biden's

00:34:40.440 open borders

00:34:41.220 were still

00:34:41.840 terrorizing

00:34:42.800 and destroying

00:34:43.480 America

00:34:44.100 the

00:34:44.780 Washington

00:34:45.160 Post

00:34:45.520 theory

00:34:46.040 is

00:34:46.340 the

00:34:46.480 drugs

00:34:46.780 just

00:34:47.060 stopped

00:34:47.400 being

00:34:48.160 cool

00:34:49.160 this

00:34:49.600 year

00:34:49.900 at least

00:34:51.100 that's

00:34:51.460 essentially

00:34:51.860 what they

00:34:52.240 say in

00:34:52.580 their article

00:34:53.080 you're getting

00:34:53.900 this generational

00:34:54.960 effect

00:34:55.580 illicit

00:34:56.040 opiates

00:34:56.540 are just

00:34:56.960 not as

00:34:58.020 cool

00:34:58.620 as they

00:34:59.140 were

00:34:59.480 an

00:35:00.040 epidemiologist

00:35:01.120 was quoted

00:35:02.080 by the

00:35:02.620 Washington

00:35:02.940 Post

00:35:03.320 as saying

00:35:04.020 it's amazing

00:35:05.220 how fentanyl

00:35:06.040 apparently

00:35:06.480 lost its

00:35:07.200 addictive

00:35:07.580 nature

00:35:08.120 as soon

00:35:08.860 as President

00:35:09.380 Donald Trump

00:35:09.940 took office

00:35:10.580 apparently

00:35:11.120 this is why

00:35:12.360 I don't

00:35:12.960 get my

00:35:13.380 news

00:35:13.740 from the

00:35:14.260 Washington

00:35:14.600 Post

00:35:15.000 for the

00:35:15.700 same reason

00:35:16.280 I don't

00:35:16.980 eat out

00:35:17.640 of the

00:35:18.220 toilet

00:35:18.620 a new

00:35:19.780 poll out

00:35:20.560 from

00:35:21.120 Atlas

00:35:22.260 intel

00:35:22.940 of the

00:35:23.600 2028

00:35:24.700 Democrat

00:35:25.580 presidential

00:35:26.200 contest

00:35:26.660 has

00:35:26.980 Pete

00:35:27.560 Buttigieg

00:35:28.040 in the

00:35:28.640 lead

00:35:28.900 at

00:35:29.140 32%

00:35:30.220 AOC

00:35:30.720 at

00:35:31.000 19%

00:35:32.380 former

00:35:33.160 Vice

00:35:33.500 President

00:35:33.920 Kamala

00:35:34.660 Harris

00:35:35.000 at

00:35:35.260 17%

00:35:36.300 Cory

00:35:37.360 Booker

00:35:38.200 at

00:35:38.860 10%

00:35:39.640 Governor

00:35:40.500 Gavin

00:35:41.060 Newsom

00:35:41.460 at

00:35:41.640 7%

00:35:42.500 Little

00:35:43.320 Josh

00:35:43.740 Puro

00:35:44.100 Pennsylvania

00:35:44.540 at

00:35:44.880 5%

00:35:45.560 Governor

00:35:46.520 Gretchen

00:35:47.200 Whitmer

00:35:47.600 of Michigan

00:35:48.100 at

00:35:48.380 4%

00:35:48.960 and

00:35:49.920 Reverend

00:35:51.100 Raphael

00:35:51.800 Warnock

00:35:52.260 the senator

00:35:52.640 from Georgia

00:35:53.220 at

00:35:53.520 1%

00:35:54.160 You know

00:35:55.360 you can

00:35:55.880 make a

00:35:56.200 poll say

00:35:56.700 anything

00:35:57.020 you want

00:35:57.500 by the

00:35:57.960 wording of

00:35:58.380 the question

00:35:58.860 the order

00:35:59.440 of the

00:35:59.880 questions

00:36:00.360 the size

00:36:01.920 and accuracy

00:36:02.960 of the

00:36:03.540 sample

00:36:03.900 every

00:36:04.740 credible

00:36:05.320 poll

00:36:05.780 that I

00:36:06.380 have seen

00:36:06.900 shows

00:36:07.540 Kamala

00:36:08.080 Harris

00:36:08.560 would be

00:36:09.320 the easy

00:36:10.180 front runner

00:36:10.900 makes sense

00:36:11.780 she just 0.65

00:36:12.300 spent

00:36:12.640 $300

00:36:13.440 million

00:36:13.800 running

00:36:14.520 for

00:36:14.780 president

00:36:15.240 and

00:36:16.460 AOC

00:36:17.040 is a

00:36:17.600 surprisingly

00:36:18.160 strong

00:36:18.860 second

00:36:19.440 place

00:36:19.960 finisher

00:36:20.460 although

00:36:21.280 my

00:36:21.900 favorite

00:36:22.300 remains

00:36:22.940 an

00:36:23.380 AOC

00:36:23.940 Jasmine

00:36:25.100 Crockett

00:36:25.960 ticket

00:36:26.480 make

00:36:27.240 my

00:36:27.960 day

00:36:28.500 thanks

00:36:29.100 for

00:36:29.340 joining

00:36:29.780 us

00:36:30.000 today

00:36:30.380 in

00:36:30.680 the

00:36:30.820 stone

00:36:31.060 zone

00:36:31.380 until

00:36:31.720 tomorrow

00:36:32.220 God

00:36:32.780 bless

00:36:33.060 you

00:36:33.320 and

00:36:33.840 God

00:36:34.380 speed

The Stone Zone ｜ 06-03-25

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