The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The Stone Zone | 06-03-25


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Summary

On the eve of peace talks which took place yesterday in Turkey, Moscow is now under attack again, and this is quite extraordinary because it comes on the heels of a visit to Ukraine where U.S. Senators Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal, also known as Da Nang Dick, met with President Vladimir Putin. Meanwhile, the long-talked-about investigation into Joe Biden s auto-pen scandal has finally begun. Ed Martin, the Justice Department s attorney in charge of pardons, is now investigating clemency granted by Biden to his family members and a large number of death row inmates.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:00:05.860 You are now entering the Stone Zone.
00:00:10.600 NATO is trying to sabotage a Ukraine peace deal.
00:00:15.200 With President Donald Trump working overtime to secure a peace deal between the Ukraine and Russia,
00:00:21.020 NATO is providing support for ramped up drone attacks against Russian nuclear bombers, military bases, trains, and other facilities.
00:00:30.720 It is clear to me that NATO is openly trying to start a nuclear war with Russia on the eve of peace talks which took place yesterday in Turkey.
00:00:41.320 Moscow is now under attack again.
00:00:43.540 And this is quite extraordinary because it comes on the heels of a visit to Ukraine where U.S. Senators Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal,
00:00:55.540 also known as Da Nang Dick, the guy who lied about seeing combat in the service in Vietnam when he was never even in Vietnam,
00:01:06.760 met with President Zelensky.
00:01:09.220 By the way, their combined hotel bill was more than $1 million for the U.S. taxpayers.
00:01:16.720 That must be some incredible room service.
00:01:20.320 Ukraine has now claimed over 40 bombers.
00:01:23.400 About a third of Russia's strategic bomber fleet were damaged or destroyed this past Sunday,
00:01:29.280 while Moscow said only several planes were struck.
00:01:31.960 The attack comes amid recent reports that some intelligence agents have gone rogue
00:01:37.620 and are not disclosing information from Ukraine within the Trump administration,
00:01:42.360 which may include forewarnings of this recent attack.
00:01:46.760 However, Ukraine carried out what they called the Russian Pearl Harbor attack, as I say,
00:01:53.820 the very day that Senators Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal arrived in Kiev.
00:02:01.500 Now, you can understand how the Russians may look at this visit by two U.S. senators
00:02:08.260 and assume that that means that this attack on Russia has the imprimatur or the approval of President Donald Trump.
00:02:18.100 The White House put out a statement that the president was not forewarned of this attack,
00:02:24.160 which General Michael Flynn, who was with us in the Stone Zone yesterday
00:02:27.760 and was the former National Security Advisor, told us was extraordinarily unusual.
00:02:34.760 Only a week ago, it was shocking to learn, even though it got some coverage in the mainstream press,
00:02:42.460 that the president had not been informed of an assassination attempt against Russian leader Vladimir Putin
00:02:49.480 when there was an attack by the Ukrainians on his helicopter.
00:02:54.260 It's interesting that back in 2016, after Trump won, Lindsey Graham and his warmonger friends went to Ukraine
00:03:01.160 and claimed that Russia had attacked us by hacking the 2016 elections,
00:03:07.520 a claim for which there is no evidence whatsoever.
00:03:11.780 Graham and his neocon buddies have been trying to start World War III for over a decade.
00:03:17.800 In my opinion, President Trump should renounce the actions of Lindsey Graham
00:03:23.000 and make it clear that he speaks only for himself.
00:03:25.980 He doesn't speak for the Trump administration, nor does he speak for the U.S. Senate.
00:03:32.500 Meanwhile, the long-talked-about investigation into Joe Biden's auto pen scandal has finally begun.
00:03:39.440 Ed Martin, the Justice Department's attorney in charge of pardons, also in charge of weaponization,
00:03:46.420 emailed staff that he has been ordered to investigate clemency, supposedly granted by Biden,
00:03:52.820 to his family members and an extraordinary large number of death row inmates,
00:03:58.400 including sex traffickers, murderers, drug dealers, and others, all during Biden's final time in office.
00:04:08.000 Ed Martin wrote in the email that he will investigate whether Biden was mentally competent
00:04:13.020 and whether others were taking advantage of him through the use of the auto pen or other means.
00:04:18.640 The email from Martin specifically focuses on the preemptive pardons Biden issued to six members of his own family
00:04:27.160 and the clemency he granted to 37 murderers, drug dealers, rapists, and other violent criminals.
00:04:35.000 What's perplexing is the fact that none of those violent criminals had expressed any remorse.
00:04:41.820 None of them had officially applied for pardons, which is a legal process.
00:04:48.720 It is not necessary to apply for a pardon in order to receive one,
00:04:52.760 but for someone who is a hardened criminal, one has to wonder what the motive was
00:04:58.400 or who the progenitor was of that decision.
00:05:02.580 Biden, of course, pardoned five members of his own crime family hours before Donald Trump took office,
00:05:08.500 specifically pardoning his son Hunter, something he said throughout the final year of his term,
00:05:15.740 he would under no circumstances do.
00:05:19.420 Biden's blanket preemptive pardon to his brother, James Biden, to his daughter-in-law, Sarah Jones Biden,
00:05:27.700 to Valerie Biden Owens, his sister, and her husband, John T. Owens,
00:05:32.520 and to Francis W. Biden, a sister, gave cover for any nonviolent offenses they may have committed
00:05:39.900 from January 1st, 2014 through the date of the pardon.
00:05:44.200 And then, of course, on December 1st, Biden pardoned his son Hunter.
00:05:49.600 You remember Hunter.
00:05:50.720 He had a laptop that was a cornucopia of criminal evidence of various crimes that he committed.
00:05:58.940 But 51 former or current intelligence officers insisted to us in the run-up to the 2024 election
00:06:09.140 that that was all Russian disinformation.
00:06:13.520 As Miranda Devine proved in her crusading reporting with the New York Post,
00:06:20.240 the contents of Hunter Biden's laptops were authentic, they were generalizing,
00:06:25.560 they were accurate, and they were stunning.
00:06:29.720 The pardon, which covered any federal crimes by Hunter from 2014 to 2024,
00:06:35.280 ended what was an ongoing case that delved into many of the criminal actions of the Biden crime family.
00:06:43.900 Now, recent reports have revealed Joe Biden almost certainly had no clue what was going on
00:06:50.460 when these most recent pardons were issued,
00:06:53.220 nor did he know what executive orders he had signed.
00:06:56.260 Regarding the Biden pardons, Ed Martin, the deputy attorney general, said,
00:07:01.720 I had a whistleblower in my office 10 years ago,
00:07:04.580 a senior, senior Democrat who worked in the White House saying,
00:07:08.760 look, it was these three people that controlled access,
00:07:11.980 and they, in fact, were making money off of it.
00:07:14.880 I'm not certain that we can prove that yet,
00:07:17.820 but the point is I think we have to investigate it
00:07:20.600 and get to the bottom of it for the American people
00:07:22.880 and to protect the process.
00:07:25.860 With their sweeping powers, of course,
00:07:27.780 the Justice Department has the ability to examine the bank accounts
00:07:31.600 of any of those suspected of taking money for pardons with the auto pen.
00:07:37.380 They had no problem accessing my bank accounts when I was under investigation.
00:07:43.800 Fortunately for me, they found nothing wrong whatsoever.
00:07:47.320 Although Martin is not ready to name names,
00:07:49.980 he said that senior Democrat whistblower worked as a high-level advisor
00:07:54.680 to Joe Biden's 2020 campaign and later in the White House.
00:07:58.820 Now, the three gatekeepers are alleged to be
00:08:03.460 Chief of Staff Ron Klain,
00:08:05.760 former White House advisor and admitted communist,
00:08:09.460 and Mao Zedong enthusiast Anita Dunn,
00:08:12.980 and Biden attorney Bob Bauer.
00:08:16.000 My sources tell me that Neera Tanden and Steve Nelson
00:08:21.320 were two other Biden aides who had access to the auto pen.
00:08:27.580 Martin said that the former Biden counsel,
00:08:30.140 Steve Reschetti, and Jill Biden, Dr. Jill Biden,
00:08:35.100 were also lead characters in the Biden White House.
00:08:40.240 This reminds me very much of the situation that surrounded Woodrow Wilson.
00:08:44.020 Woodrow Wilson was incapacitated by a debilitating stroke,
00:08:49.020 was both mentally and physically incapacitated
00:08:52.400 for the full three years of his final term,
00:08:56.940 and his wife, Edith Galt Wilson,
00:09:00.920 functioned as the de facto president of the United States.
00:09:04.740 Back in the days before television or the internet or even radio,
00:09:09.420 of course, the president could get away with not being seen,
00:09:12.660 and in fact, Woodrow Wilson was not seen in public
00:09:15.820 for the full three years of his final term.
00:09:21.160 It is written that Edith Galt Wilson would put the pen
00:09:26.460 into Woodrow Wilson's hand
00:09:28.240 and move it across the federal documents requiring his signature.
00:09:33.200 She did this with the assistance of the White House Chief of Staff,
00:09:36.780 the notorious Colonel House.
00:09:38.500 Joe Biden's wife and son, even Sleepy Joe himself,
00:09:43.220 may be forced to testify before the House Oversight Committee
00:09:46.420 regarding the attempts to cover up his clear mental unraveling,
00:09:49.820 according to Committee Chairman James Comer.
00:09:52.200 Now, you have to wonder that if Chairman Comer sends a subpoena
00:09:57.440 to Joe Biden, to Jill Biden, to Hunter Biden,
00:10:01.980 to any of the Bidens,
00:10:04.160 and they refuse to testify,
00:10:06.780 will they be prosecuted the way Steve Bannon
00:10:10.380 and Peter Navarro will?
00:10:13.320 Interesting question.
00:10:14.600 Comer announced that Jill and Hunter
00:10:17.060 and the former White House Press Secretary,
00:10:19.780 Karine Jean-Pierre, could also be called in,
00:10:22.580 and that he said they would be subpoenaed
00:10:25.500 if they refused to agree to testify.
00:10:28.680 If the trail leads us to the next step,
00:10:31.520 which we believe could be Jill and Hunter Biden,
00:10:34.540 we will go there and subpoena them as well.
00:10:38.380 The committee has actually already called Dr. Kevin O'Connor,
00:10:43.640 the physician who insisted that Biden had a clean bill of health
00:10:48.640 and for other of Biden's handlers to testify.
00:10:53.020 Comer said that they're all lawyered up
00:10:55.800 and all are taking this very seriously,
00:10:58.140 noting that O'Connor definitely was not telling the truth
00:11:00.880 about Joe Biden's health.
00:11:03.300 People will not remember this,
00:11:04.940 but in the immediate aftermath of the historic debate
00:11:08.480 in which you saw Joe Biden literally melt down
00:11:12.560 on national television,
00:11:14.400 the excuses that were made by the Democrats
00:11:18.220 were extraordinary with Kamala Harris saying
00:11:20.200 that no, no, indeed, Joe Biden was sharp as a tack.
00:11:24.700 Didn't look too sharp in that debate to me.
00:11:27.280 The Oversight Project previously released findings
00:11:30.260 showing a correlation between the increased use
00:11:33.400 of auto pen signatures
00:11:34.460 and Joe Biden's worsening mental decline.
00:11:38.620 The group found that two different auto pens were used
00:11:41.540 with an analysis of executive order signatures
00:11:44.200 showing an increased use of the auto pen
00:11:46.960 as President Biden's mental and physical decline accelerated.
00:11:52.140 President Trump has called for those
00:11:53.920 who operated the auto pen to be jailed.
00:11:56.840 Of course, that would only come after they were charged
00:11:59.580 and went through a trial
00:12:00.700 because even in America,
00:12:02.400 everyone is innocent until proven guilty
00:12:05.300 or until put through a Soviet-style show trial
00:12:08.660 and put through a kangaroo court,
00:12:12.120 but there's still a finding.
00:12:14.960 Meanwhile, we learned that the grand jury
00:12:18.020 has issued subpoenas
00:12:19.280 in the case of New York Attorney General Letitia James.
00:12:23.400 The FBI is officially investigating
00:12:25.740 the New York Attorney General
00:12:26.840 for potential mortgage fraud
00:12:28.900 linked to multiple real estate transactions.
00:12:32.600 A grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia
00:12:34.900 has now issued subpoenas
00:12:36.100 related to these allegations.
00:12:39.200 We've had Sam Antar,
00:12:41.280 who writes for whitecollarfraud.com,
00:12:44.520 whitecollarfraud.com,
00:12:45.940 who's documented and shows you
00:12:47.780 the actual documents
00:12:49.040 of a 22-year spree
00:12:52.020 of mortgage fraud
00:12:54.060 right here on the show.
00:12:56.700 I think we were among the first
00:12:58.140 in the Stone Zone to break this story.
00:13:01.260 Ironically, James is now
00:13:02.740 the first public official
00:13:03.900 who previously maliciously
00:13:05.800 prosecuted President Donald Trump
00:13:07.420 to potentially face criminal charges.
00:13:10.940 I reiterate my invitation
00:13:12.560 to Attorney General James.
00:13:15.180 She's welcome to come into the Stone Zone
00:13:16.960 at any time to respond to these charges
00:13:20.180 and defend herself if she wishes.
00:13:22.820 So far, what I've heard from her is crickets.
00:13:26.260 The FBI Director, Cash Patel, stated,
00:13:28.800 this case, I can tell you,
00:13:29.920 is being handled by our professionals
00:13:31.800 who are subject matter experts
00:13:33.840 and they're reporting directly
00:13:35.280 to myself and Deputy Director Dan Bongino.
00:13:38.960 The investigation to James
00:13:40.800 was opened after a criminal referral
00:13:42.860 which came from Federal Housing Finance
00:13:45.260 Authority Director Bill Posey
00:13:47.700 as previously reported here
00:13:50.620 in the Stone Zone.
00:13:51.940 Incredibly, Jones claims to be
00:13:54.000 fighting for the taxpayers,
00:13:55.300 saying,
00:13:55.580 we stood up against the dismantling
00:13:57.620 of the Department of Education.
00:13:59.580 We are suing Donald Trump.
00:14:02.080 And she claims, of course,
00:14:03.480 all of this is retaliation
00:14:06.580 for the conviction she obtained
00:14:09.740 against Donald Trump,
00:14:11.660 which I predict will be overturned.
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00:14:48.760 Now, here's a story
00:14:51.740 that's near and dear to my heart.
00:14:53.800 Turns out that the FBI
00:14:55.240 and Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team
00:14:58.420 hid Russiagate documents
00:15:00.580 with a special coding
00:15:01.660 in the FBI's case management database.
00:15:05.400 This could explain
00:15:06.420 why the report of Special Counsel Robert,
00:15:10.600 pardon me, John Durham,
00:15:12.400 even though it documented the fact
00:15:14.320 that the Russian collusion hoax
00:15:15.900 was the greatest single abuse of power
00:15:18.820 in American political history.
00:15:20.680 It was nothing less than the use
00:15:22.320 of the full authority
00:15:23.640 of the U.S. government
00:15:24.620 and the incredible abilities
00:15:27.880 of our intelligence agencies
00:15:29.540 to try to overturn
00:15:30.980 a duly elected president
00:15:32.700 utilizing two pieces
00:15:34.440 of completely fraudulent evidence.
00:15:36.820 The so-called Steele dossier,
00:15:39.180 paid for and fabricated
00:15:40.840 on behalf of Hillary Clinton,
00:15:43.080 which falsely claimed
00:15:44.160 that Donald Trump had dallied
00:15:45.560 with Russian prostitutes
00:15:46.900 when visiting Russia
00:15:48.960 as a private businessman
00:15:50.180 prior to his entering politics.
00:15:52.540 And again, the false claim
00:15:54.500 that the Russians hacked the DNC.
00:15:58.380 So it's very clear
00:16:00.700 that Mueller's dirty Democrats lawyers
00:16:03.320 hid exculpatory evidence
00:16:05.760 within these files.
00:16:06.800 Recall that my good friend,
00:16:08.300 General Flynn,
00:16:09.100 who was with us yesterday
00:16:10.360 in the Stone Zone,
00:16:11.500 was forced into a guilty plea
00:16:13.080 of one count of a false statement
00:16:15.480 after partisan prosecutors tricked him
00:16:18.340 and withheld evidence
00:16:19.360 that they were required
00:16:20.820 to disclose
00:16:21.520 that would have completely exonerated him.
00:16:25.360 They did essentially
00:16:26.360 the same thing to me.
00:16:28.300 My lawyers asked
00:16:29.360 for the so-called crowd strikes report,
00:16:31.600 which would have proved
00:16:33.140 that there never was
00:16:34.080 any Russian hack of the DNC,
00:16:36.060 and therefore I couldn't possibly
00:16:37.220 make a misstatement
00:16:38.160 about something that didn't happen.
00:16:39.880 But the judge denied that
00:16:41.580 to my attorneys.
00:16:43.700 It is a classic case of overreach.
00:16:46.160 Speaking of overreach,
00:16:47.500 coming up,
00:16:48.400 we're going to talk about
00:16:49.520 the incredible case
00:16:50.680 of Chris and Aaron Mazze.
00:16:53.520 They're a couple from California
00:16:55.540 whose life and family
00:16:57.280 has virtually been destroyed
00:16:59.060 by overzealous prosecutors
00:17:02.080 seeking headlines
00:17:03.700 but not seeking justice.
00:17:06.140 Their story is so chilling
00:17:08.420 that I decided to invite
00:17:10.340 Chris Mazze
00:17:11.340 into the Stone Zone
00:17:12.880 to talk about it.
00:17:13.920 We'll be right back
00:17:14.720 with that incredible story,
00:17:16.080 so don't go away.
00:17:18.300 The Stone Zone
00:17:19.100 on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
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00:17:29.420 We're back in the Stone Zone.
00:17:31.740 I can tell you firsthand,
00:17:32.860 I know what it is
00:17:33.680 to be targeted
00:17:34.600 by a vengeful
00:17:35.840 and politically motivated
00:17:37.800 federal government.
00:17:38.680 They have unlimited resources.
00:17:41.980 I know what it is
00:17:43.120 to be the subject of a trial
00:17:45.400 presided over
00:17:46.540 by a hostile
00:17:47.420 and hateful judge
00:17:48.860 who essentially
00:17:49.440 will not allow you
00:17:50.520 to mount any defense
00:17:52.360 whatsoever.
00:17:53.440 I know what it is
00:17:54.640 to have a judge
00:17:55.860 who won't even allow you
00:17:56.860 to enter exhibits
00:17:58.140 of evidence
00:17:59.040 that would have proved
00:18:00.080 that you're an innocent,
00:18:01.620 even though under the law
00:18:03.240 it's the government's job
00:18:04.560 to prove you're guilty.
00:18:05.500 You're not required
00:18:06.400 to prove your innocence.
00:18:08.040 It doesn't really work that way.
00:18:09.640 But the case of Aaron
00:18:11.840 and Chris Mazze
00:18:14.140 is so stunning,
00:18:16.540 so overreaching,
00:18:17.740 so outrageous
00:18:18.540 that I wanted to bring
00:18:20.720 Chris Mazze
00:18:21.340 on the show today
00:18:22.280 to talk about it.
00:18:24.000 The Mazze's
00:18:25.220 are successful
00:18:26.220 California entrepreneurs.
00:18:28.360 They had a history
00:18:28.900 of developing
00:18:29.500 entertainment content
00:18:30.640 previously,
00:18:31.780 directing and producing
00:18:32.720 several feature films,
00:18:34.440 all of which made money.
00:18:36.300 But when they got
00:18:38.120 a PPP loan
00:18:39.980 back during the
00:18:41.360 COVID-19 crisis,
00:18:43.380 that's when
00:18:44.400 the trouble started.
00:18:46.340 Chris Mazze,
00:18:47.280 welcome to the Stone Zone.
00:18:49.580 Thank you, Roger.
00:18:50.280 Thank you for having me.
00:18:51.720 So give us
00:18:53.000 a kind of a quick synopsis
00:18:55.400 of what went down
00:18:57.520 in this epic prosecution
00:18:59.740 of you and your wife.
00:19:01.680 You were sentenced
00:19:02.300 to 36 months
00:19:03.380 of imprisonment
00:19:04.200 while your wife,
00:19:05.920 Erin,
00:19:06.080 was sentenced
00:19:06.480 to 27 months
00:19:07.960 of imprisonment.
00:19:08.680 She is still incarcerated.
00:19:11.020 The charges
00:19:11.660 in the end
00:19:12.140 were allegedly
00:19:13.540 wire fraud
00:19:14.500 and money laundering
00:19:15.820 conspiracy
00:19:16.500 for receiving
00:19:17.960 a PPP loan
00:19:19.020 to fund
00:19:19.600 an entertainment project
00:19:21.380 in Hawaii
00:19:22.580 where you live.
00:19:23.600 Tell us what happened.
00:19:25.240 Well, actually,
00:19:25.880 we never lived in Hawaii,
00:19:27.360 so that's the ironic part.
00:19:28.920 We've always lived
00:19:29.540 in California.
00:19:31.740 This all stemmed
00:19:32.880 because we had
00:19:33.540 a project called
00:19:34.640 Ohana
00:19:35.040 that basically
00:19:36.140 was a fictional character
00:19:38.660 in a non-fiction
00:19:40.600 world of Hawaii
00:19:43.000 in the 1990s
00:19:44.140 dealing with the mob
00:19:45.040 and the corrupt
00:19:45.640 federal government
00:19:46.420 over there.
00:19:47.960 So that's,
00:19:49.000 I don't know
00:19:49.760 if that's how
00:19:50.580 it all stemmed
00:19:51.540 from it,
00:19:52.160 but we,
00:19:53.360 you know,
00:19:54.580 during COVID
00:19:55.220 when it all happened
00:19:56.080 we were like
00:19:56.760 everybody else
00:19:57.520 didn't know
00:19:58.360 what was going on
00:19:59.400 was following
00:20:00.920 directions
00:20:01.780 by any and everybody
00:20:03.300 and,
00:20:04.120 you know,
00:20:04.220 at that time
00:20:04.840 I was reaching out
00:20:05.840 to our local banks
00:20:06.760 and they're like
00:20:07.220 we're not doing
00:20:07.780 this program yet
00:20:08.620 we don't know
00:20:09.120 what it is
00:20:10.200 and so that's
00:20:11.900 when I started
00:20:12.420 just kind of
00:20:12.940 going online
00:20:13.500 every day
00:20:14.120 just to
00:20:14.760 to get questions
00:20:17.180 you know,
00:20:17.720 I had questions
00:20:18.280 I needed answers
00:20:19.060 and I reached out
00:20:21.520 to I don't even know
00:20:22.360 how many different
00:20:23.100 banks and loan originators
00:20:24.680 and one of them
00:20:26.120 wrote us back
00:20:26.780 and said
00:20:27.240 no,
00:20:27.640 you can use projections
00:20:28.640 and it didn't seem
00:20:30.020 off to me
00:20:31.320 because back in the day
00:20:32.980 we used to own
00:20:33.740 a no fear store
00:20:34.640 and we got a
00:20:35.500 traditional SBA loan
00:20:37.100 and one of the requirements
00:20:39.240 is you fill out
00:20:40.040 a whole Excel spreadsheet
00:20:41.820 on your 18 months
00:20:43.500 of projections
00:20:44.160 so it didn't throw up
00:20:47.260 any irregularities
00:20:49.140 to me
00:20:49.500 or to us
00:20:50.460 so that is
00:20:53.160 the issue
00:20:54.280 that happened
00:20:55.100 with the prosecutor
00:20:56.920 he didn't want to hear
00:20:57.820 anything about the email
00:20:58.780 he just turned
00:20:59.940 a blind ear
00:21:00.920 wasn't
00:21:01.340 wasn't part of his narrative
00:21:03.280 so the loan originator
00:21:05.540 urged
00:21:06.500 advised you
00:21:07.920 that it was properly
00:21:08.640 used payroll projections
00:21:09.820 for the loan
00:21:10.540 which is what you did
00:21:12.280 you had done it previously
00:21:13.400 when applying
00:21:13.900 for an SBA loan
00:21:15.120 ultimately
00:21:16.320 it was determined
00:21:17.960 that the loan originator's
00:21:19.020 guidance was incorrect
00:21:20.320 which seemed to me
00:21:21.880 that agreeing
00:21:23.120 to pay back
00:21:24.020 the loan
00:21:24.560 should have
00:21:25.240 solved this issue
00:21:27.200 but for some reason
00:21:28.700 the U.S. attorney
00:21:30.380 and a federal
00:21:31.620 district judge
00:21:32.460 they seemed to me
00:21:33.660 to be looking more
00:21:34.460 for a scalp
00:21:35.580 rather than
00:21:37.640 true justice
00:21:39.220 what happened next
00:21:40.960 so yeah
00:21:43.340 I mean
00:21:43.860 through this whole process
00:21:45.840 we
00:21:46.400 you know
00:21:50.140 once we learned
00:21:51.540 that
00:21:51.880 the information
00:21:52.800 was incorrect
00:21:53.480 we said
00:21:54.060 okay
00:21:54.340 like let's
00:21:55.320 you've already seized
00:21:56.400 the majority of it
00:21:57.680 because when we first
00:21:58.360 got the loan
00:21:59.000 I'm like
00:21:59.400 I do not want
00:22:00.160 any of this money
00:22:00.940 in my normal account
00:22:02.960 like this is not my money
00:22:04.700 so we
00:22:05.120 we use
00:22:05.620 we put
00:22:06.140 what we were told
00:22:07.040 we're allowed
00:22:07.640 to pay ourselves
00:22:08.420 and everything else
00:22:10.120 went into a specific account
00:22:11.560 specific account
00:22:12.480 for Ohana
00:22:13.180 and
00:22:14.440 you know
00:22:16.380 that right there
00:22:17.240 is their money
00:22:18.600 laundering charge
00:22:19.640 but once
00:22:23.400 once we found out
00:22:24.500 that the advice
00:22:25.400 from the loan
00:22:25.880 originator
00:22:26.400 was not
00:22:27.880 proper
00:22:28.700 we said
00:22:29.980 okay
00:22:30.360 what can we do
00:22:31.060 like let's sell
00:22:31.880 let's sell our condo
00:22:32.860 we had bought a condo
00:22:33.700 over in Hawaii
00:22:34.240 because we were
00:22:34.700 planning on shooting
00:22:35.560 this pilot
00:22:36.280 in summer of 2021
00:22:37.660 so
00:22:39.500 you know
00:22:40.420 we sold that
00:22:41.440 and we came up
00:22:42.240 with close to
00:22:42.840 1.2 million
00:22:43.780 out of the
00:22:44.180 1.3 million dollars
00:22:45.680 that was the
00:22:47.280 original loan amount
00:22:48.220 and
00:22:49.500 they just didn't care
00:22:52.780 you know
00:22:53.400 they're like
00:22:53.880 no you guys
00:22:54.380 are hard criminals
00:22:55.060 you know
00:22:55.720 we don't care
00:22:57.320 they wanted to treat us
00:22:58.540 like
00:22:58.780 the other people
00:23:00.300 that you would
00:23:00.800 hear on the news
00:23:01.540 that bought
00:23:02.520 Lamborghinis
00:23:03.340 and
00:23:03.800 didn't have
00:23:04.840 businesses
00:23:05.280 and it was
00:23:06.160 it was just
00:23:06.820 sickening to us
00:23:07.680 that we were
00:23:08.220 being labeled
00:23:08.820 that
00:23:09.200 when we
00:23:10.680 we're a normal
00:23:11.920 family
00:23:12.320 I mean
00:23:12.700 we're
00:23:14.960 basically
00:23:15.660 similar to
00:23:16.380 everyone that's
00:23:16.940 listening to your
00:23:17.560 program
00:23:17.940 we're not
00:23:18.440 famous
00:23:19.060 we're not
00:23:19.740 politicians
00:23:20.560 we're
00:23:21.860 your average
00:23:22.720 family that
00:23:23.540 got targeted
00:23:24.660 and I think
00:23:25.580 there's a lot
00:23:26.100 of them
00:23:26.420 out there
00:23:27.120 that just
00:23:27.720 don't have
00:23:28.420 a voice
00:23:28.960 and so
00:23:30.500 we're very
00:23:30.840 thankful
00:23:31.160 you're giving
00:23:31.660 us a voice
00:23:32.460 I mean
00:23:33.360 the case
00:23:34.000 against you
00:23:35.020 and your
00:23:35.440 wife Erin
00:23:35.940 seems plagued
00:23:36.860 with prosecutorial
00:23:37.640 abuse from the
00:23:38.340 start
00:23:38.600 federal agents
00:23:39.360 seized all
00:23:40.880 your accessible
00:23:41.640 assets
00:23:42.400 prematurely
00:23:43.280 in May
00:23:43.980 of 2021
00:23:44.820 but that's
00:23:46.080 nearly a year
00:23:46.760 before any
00:23:47.400 charges were
00:23:48.120 filed against
00:23:48.820 you in May
00:23:49.420 of 2022
00:23:50.720 violating
00:23:51.540 requirement
00:23:52.260 to file
00:23:53.220 charges
00:23:53.760 within 90
00:23:54.640 days
00:23:55.080 or return
00:23:56.360 the seized
00:23:57.080 assets
00:23:57.660 this include
00:23:59.080 placing a
00:24:00.200 what's called
00:24:01.200 a Liz
00:24:01.760 pendens
00:24:02.580 a public
00:24:03.180 notice
00:24:03.600 that a
00:24:04.340 particular
00:24:04.680 property
00:24:05.140 has a
00:24:05.580 claim
00:24:05.840 against it
00:24:06.440 on your
00:24:06.840 family home
00:24:07.600 that had
00:24:08.340 been purchased
00:24:08.920 three years
00:24:09.760 well before
00:24:10.920 the COVID-19
00:24:11.900 pandemic
00:24:12.680 even occurred
00:24:13.600 as part of
00:24:14.780 the plan
00:24:15.300 to squeeze
00:24:16.060 you and
00:24:16.540 coerce you
00:24:17.480 into entering
00:24:18.560 a plea
00:24:19.720 agreement
00:24:20.640 I still
00:24:22.540 find the
00:24:23.700 entire thing
00:24:24.460 incredible
00:24:25.000 because
00:24:25.560 you were
00:24:27.400 bled dry
00:24:28.140 you had
00:24:28.860 already paid
00:24:29.620 back
00:24:30.180 virtually all
00:24:32.300 of the PPP
00:24:33.020 loan
00:24:33.540 yet they
00:24:34.200 decided to
00:24:35.040 destroy you
00:24:36.340 financially
00:24:37.040 anyway
00:24:37.780 when the
00:24:39.340 matter could
00:24:39.940 have been
00:24:40.460 civilly
00:24:41.500 quite easily
00:24:42.380 settled
00:24:42.760 simply by
00:24:43.420 paying them
00:24:44.340 back
00:24:44.680 you operated
00:24:45.260 on the basis
00:24:45.860 of bad
00:24:47.100 advice
00:24:47.760 but they
00:24:48.560 had no
00:24:48.900 interest
00:24:49.500 in that
00:24:50.080 in fact
00:24:51.240 as I
00:24:51.580 understand
00:24:52.020 it
00:24:52.260 the
00:24:52.940 plea
00:24:53.360 deal
00:24:53.860 banned
00:24:54.860 any
00:24:55.220 negotiation
00:24:56.020 that would
00:24:56.700 have
00:24:56.800 prevented
00:24:57.220 you
00:24:57.980 from
00:24:58.280 arguing
00:24:58.680 for a
00:24:59.120 reduced
00:24:59.440 sentence
00:24:59.960 you
00:25:02.480 and
00:25:02.900 you
00:25:03.100 have
00:25:03.280 two
00:25:03.580 small
00:25:04.100 children
00:25:04.500 yet
00:25:05.740 they
00:25:06.020 insisted
00:25:06.480 that
00:25:07.040 despite
00:25:07.940 the fact
00:25:08.500 that you
00:25:08.680 were
00:25:08.800 first-time
00:25:09.440 non-violent
00:25:10.540 non-drug
00:25:11.560 related
00:25:12.540 offenders
00:25:13.100 that you
00:25:14.280 had to
00:25:15.260 do
00:25:15.600 serious
00:25:16.380 time
00:25:16.900 ripping
00:25:18.300 your
00:25:19.200 wife
00:25:19.580 now
00:25:20.020 who's
00:25:20.360 still
00:25:20.560 behind
00:25:20.880 bars
00:25:21.260 away
00:25:21.860 from
00:25:22.060 two
00:25:22.300 young
00:25:22.600 children
00:25:23.000 this
00:25:23.980 is
00:25:24.600 really
00:25:25.320 quite
00:25:25.680 incredible
00:25:26.180 no
00:25:27.860 I
00:25:28.180 agree
00:25:28.880 and
00:25:29.380 the
00:25:29.840 whole
00:25:30.200 the
00:25:30.780 problem
00:25:31.180 with the
00:25:31.560 house
00:25:31.840 is
00:25:32.100 when
00:25:32.440 we
00:25:32.660 got
00:25:32.900 served
00:25:33.280 our
00:25:33.480 target
00:25:33.820 letter
00:25:34.100 we
00:25:34.260 had
00:25:34.440 over
00:25:34.640 a
00:25:34.780 million
00:25:35.000 dollars
00:25:35.360 in
00:25:35.520 equity
00:25:35.800 in
00:25:36.000 that
00:25:36.180 house
00:25:36.540 and
00:25:37.720 we
00:25:37.840 couldn't
00:25:38.040 pull
00:25:38.360 any
00:25:38.760 cash
00:25:39.080 out
00:25:39.320 for
00:25:39.560 legal
00:25:39.860 assistance
00:25:40.280 so
00:25:40.600 we
00:25:40.740 got
00:25:40.920 stuck
00:25:41.380 with
00:25:41.780 hawaiian
00:25:43.700 court
00:25:43.980 appointed
00:25:44.320 attorneys
00:25:44.760 which
00:25:45.000 aren't
00:25:46.140 court
00:25:46.640 appointed
00:25:46.940 they
00:25:47.400 are
00:25:47.660 literally
00:25:48.020 it's
00:25:48.340 a
00:25:48.460 panel
00:25:48.820 of
00:25:49.200 attorneys
00:25:49.680 and
00:25:49.880 you
00:25:50.000 look
00:25:50.200 any
00:25:50.440 of
00:25:50.600 them
00:25:50.740 up
00:25:50.980 and
00:25:51.100 they're
00:25:51.240 literally
00:25:51.660 their
00:25:51.880 main
00:25:52.100 focus
00:25:52.500 is
00:25:52.860 personal
00:25:53.240 injury
00:25:53.660 so
00:25:55.180 they
00:25:55.340 had
00:25:56.180 no
00:25:56.600 idea
00:25:57.180 what
00:25:57.420 they
00:25:57.580 were
00:25:57.700 doing
00:25:57.960 and
00:25:58.120 any
00:25:58.300 time
00:25:58.520 we
00:25:58.680 would
00:25:58.860 push
00:25:59.160 them
00:25:59.520 to
00:26:00.220 like
00:26:00.460 hey
00:26:00.720 look
00:26:01.400 at
00:26:01.540 what
00:26:01.800 you
00:26:01.920 just
00:26:02.120 said
00:26:02.340 about
00:26:02.580 the
00:26:02.880 assets
00:26:03.420 being
00:26:03.740 seized
00:26:04.200 ahead
00:26:05.680 of
00:26:05.880 time
00:26:06.180 instead
00:26:07.140 of
00:26:07.400 actually
00:26:07.800 doing
00:26:08.180 anything
00:26:08.540 they
00:26:08.960 just
00:26:09.220 went
00:26:09.660 to
00:26:09.800 the
00:26:09.960 court
00:26:10.180 and
00:26:10.300 has
00:26:10.520 to
00:26:10.640 be
00:26:10.820 removed
00:26:11.260 that
00:26:12.240 went
00:26:12.400 on
00:26:12.720 for
00:26:13.800 almost
00:26:14.040 two
00:26:14.260 years
00:26:14.620 until
00:26:14.940 my
00:26:15.160 father-in-law
00:26:15.740 saw
00:26:16.060 all this
00:26:16.440 and
00:26:16.640 luckily
00:26:17.420 he
00:26:17.640 had
00:26:17.800 a
00:26:17.900 little
00:26:18.040 bit
00:26:18.200 of
00:26:18.340 money
00:26:18.520 saved
00:26:18.860 up
00:26:19.040 so
00:26:19.200 we
00:26:19.380 finally
00:26:19.700 were
00:26:19.960 able
00:26:20.140 to
00:26:20.420 hire
00:26:21.240 a
00:26:22.000 private
00:26:22.780 attorney
00:26:23.220 but
00:26:24.120 at
00:26:24.240 that
00:26:24.460 time
00:26:24.820 that's
00:26:25.500 when
00:26:25.680 the
00:26:26.320 government
00:26:26.640 was
00:26:26.900 saying
00:26:27.100 if
00:26:27.260 you
00:26:27.340 don't
00:26:27.500 take
00:26:27.680 this
00:26:27.880 plea
00:26:28.180 we're
00:26:29.220 going
00:26:29.320 to
00:26:29.440 file
00:26:29.660 charges
00:26:30.060 against
00:26:30.380 my
00:26:30.700 mom
00:26:31.020 who's
00:26:31.360 77
00:26:31.920 and
00:26:32.500 has
00:26:32.700 had
00:26:39.220 to
00:26:39.340 get
00:26:39.500 us
00:26:39.680 to
00:26:39.940 plea
00:26:40.480 it
00:26:41.480 was
00:26:41.680 it
00:26:41.960 was
00:26:42.120 just
00:26:42.380 disgusting
00:26:43.040 precisely
00:26:43.920 what they
00:26:44.300 did to
00:26:44.640 general
00:26:44.920 Flynn
00:26:45.260 threatening
00:26:45.680 to
00:26:46.180 charge
00:26:46.960 his
00:26:47.300 son
00:26:47.840 if
00:26:48.420 he
00:26:48.700 did
00:26:49.620 not
00:26:49.920 a
00:26:50.180 plea
00:26:50.500 to
00:26:50.900 take
00:26:51.260 a
00:26:51.480 plea
00:26:51.720 or
00:26:52.020 former
00:26:52.780 upstate
00:26:53.300 New York
00:26:53.620 congressman
00:26:54.120 Chris
00:26:54.400 Collins
00:26:54.940 who
00:26:55.880 they
00:26:56.100 charged
00:26:56.440 with
00:26:56.600 insider
00:26:57.020 trading
00:26:57.480 despite
00:26:57.800 the fact
00:26:58.120 that
00:26:58.340 there's
00:26:58.840 no
00:26:59.000 evidence
00:26:59.360 that he
00:26:59.800 conducted
00:27:00.860 any
00:27:01.220 inside
00:27:01.740 trading
00:27:02.180 but
00:27:02.880 they
00:27:03.040 threatened
00:27:03.340 to
00:27:03.560 indict
00:27:03.920 his
00:27:04.620 young
00:27:05.160 son
00:27:05.560 if
00:27:05.800 he
00:27:05.940 did
00:27:06.100 not
00:27:06.380 plead
00:27:06.680 guilty
00:27:07.040 the
00:27:07.640 most
00:27:07.860 stunning
00:27:08.140 thing
00:27:08.360 about
00:27:08.560 your
00:27:08.720 case
00:27:09.080 is
00:27:09.280 learning
00:27:09.620 that
00:27:09.900 the
00:27:10.200 U.S.
00:27:10.880 attorney
00:27:11.140 used
00:27:11.680 the
00:27:11.840 money
00:27:12.000 you
00:27:12.180 paid
00:27:12.440 back
00:27:12.900 to
00:27:13.440 turn
00:27:13.680 around
00:27:13.920 and
00:27:14.080 try
00:27:14.260 to
00:27:14.420 buy
00:27:14.960 your
00:27:15.360 family
00:27:15.760 home
00:27:16.200 in
00:27:16.740 the
00:27:16.880 foreclosure
00:27:17.420 sale
00:27:17.840 in
00:27:18.260 fact
00:27:18.380 they
00:27:18.580 actually
00:27:18.880 sent
00:27:19.400 agents
00:27:19.920 to
00:27:20.140 go
00:27:20.340 bid
00:27:20.740 on
00:27:20.980 it
00:27:21.120 so
00:27:21.560 they
00:27:21.800 forced
00:27:22.220 a
00:27:22.420 foreclosure
00:27:23.140 instead
00:27:23.440 of
00:27:23.640 allowing
00:27:24.040 a
00:27:24.300 normal
00:27:24.900 sale
00:27:25.360 which
00:27:25.960 would
00:27:26.160 have
00:27:26.280 allowed
00:27:26.520 you
00:27:26.700 to
00:27:26.860 keep
00:27:27.120 some
00:27:27.700 equity
00:27:28.120 on
00:27:28.320 top
00:27:28.560 of
00:27:28.720 that
00:27:29.080 as
00:27:29.780 I
00:27:29.940 understand
00:27:30.300 it
00:27:30.480 the
00:27:30.640 government
00:27:30.940 hasn't
00:27:31.660 applied
00:27:32.080 the
00:27:32.320 money
00:27:32.600 that
00:27:33.140 you
00:27:33.300 paid
00:27:33.600 back
00:27:33.960 towards
00:27:34.400 restitution
00:27:35.200 even
00:27:35.920 though
00:27:36.120 the
00:27:36.280 court
00:27:36.500 transcript
00:27:37.020 clearly
00:27:37.540 states
00:27:38.000 that
00:27:38.320 that
00:27:38.600 is
00:27:38.960 what
00:27:39.140 the
00:27:39.260 money
00:27:39.500 would
00:27:39.840 be
00:27:39.980 used
00:27:40.200 for
00:27:40.420 so
00:27:40.960 in
00:27:41.120 other
00:27:41.300 words
00:27:41.580 they
00:27:41.960 double
00:27:42.280 dipped
00:27:42.600 they
00:27:43.100 stole
00:27:43.480 your
00:27:43.700 home
00:27:44.020 and
00:27:44.640 they
00:27:44.800 got
00:27:44.960 to
00:27:45.120 keep
00:27:45.540 your
00:27:45.980 money
00:27:46.280 this
00:27:47.640 is
00:27:47.820 a
00:27:47.980 cautionary
00:27:48.540 tale
00:27:48.900 because
00:27:49.360 what
00:27:49.920 happened
00:27:50.240 to
00:27:50.480 you
00:27:50.780 and
00:27:51.280 your
00:27:51.440 wife
00:27:51.760 Erin
00:27:52.080 can
00:27:52.840 happen
00:27:53.160 to
00:27:53.500 any
00:27:54.120 American
00:27:54.840 no
00:27:56.660 I
00:27:56.800 agree
00:27:57.040 and
00:27:57.200 it
00:27:59.940 about
00:28:00.180 the
00:28:00.380 foreclosure
00:28:00.900 sale
00:28:01.180 because
00:28:01.500 I
00:28:02.360 just
00:28:02.540 remember
00:28:02.780 I
00:28:03.000 was
00:28:03.100 talking
00:28:03.320 to
00:28:03.420 my
00:28:03.560 best
00:28:03.800 friend
00:28:04.160 on
00:28:04.620 the
00:28:04.780 phone
00:28:05.120 right
00:28:05.560 after
00:28:05.940 I
00:28:06.600 told
00:28:06.840 him
00:28:06.960 what
00:28:07.100 our
00:28:07.300 sentence
00:28:07.580 was
00:28:07.960 and
00:28:08.100 we
00:28:08.220 were
00:28:08.360 basically
00:28:08.700 crying
00:28:09.140 together
00:28:09.480 on
00:28:09.700 the
00:28:09.840 phone
00:28:10.060 I've
00:28:10.340 known
00:28:10.540 him
00:28:10.740 since
00:28:10.920 seventh
00:28:11.260 grade
00:28:11.620 and
00:28:11.800 he's
00:28:12.040 a
00:28:13.120 very
00:28:13.520 successful
00:28:15.000 mortgage
00:28:15.460 broker
00:28:15.840 and
00:28:16.660 he
00:28:17.120 said
00:28:18.200 well
00:28:18.520 let me
00:28:19.000 see if
00:28:19.700 I can
00:28:19.920 just
00:28:20.100 buy
00:28:20.340 your
00:28:20.520 house
00:28:20.760 for
00:28:20.980 you
00:28:21.220 at
00:28:21.500 the
00:28:21.700 sale
00:28:22.080 when
00:28:22.820 is
00:28:23.020 it
00:28:23.140 they're
00:28:23.700 doing
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00:28:24.180 12
00:28:24.600 days
00:28:24.940 the
00:28:25.280 sale
00:28:25.580 was
00:28:25.820 scheduled
00:28:26.380 for
00:28:26.660 12
00:28:27.000 days
00:28:27.260 after
00:28:27.540 our
00:28:27.740 sentencing
00:28:28.140 so
00:28:29.260 he
00:28:29.480 has
00:28:29.800 his
00:28:29.980 guy
00:28:30.260 that's
00:28:30.500 been
00:28:30.640 doing
00:28:30.840 this
00:28:31.080 for
00:28:31.220 30
00:28:31.620 years
00:28:31.940 buying
00:28:32.260 foreclosed
00:28:32.820 sales
00:28:33.240 at
00:28:34.500 the
00:28:34.680 auction
00:28:35.000 you know
00:28:35.880 he had
00:28:36.060 a certain
00:28:36.300 amount
00:28:36.560 he was
00:28:36.840 going to
00:28:37.000 be able
00:28:37.280 to
00:28:37.440 spend
00:28:37.780 and
00:28:38.460 it
00:28:38.680 went
00:28:38.920 over
00:28:39.220 that
00:28:39.500 but
00:28:39.700 I
00:28:39.940 have
00:28:40.160 the
00:28:40.320 text
00:28:40.560 message
00:28:40.940 and
00:28:41.080 I
00:28:41.160 think
00:28:41.300 I
00:28:41.420 sent
00:28:41.640 you
00:28:41.820 a
00:28:42.000 copy
00:28:42.240 of
00:28:42.400 it
00:28:42.500 like
00:28:42.700 the
00:28:43.660 guy
00:28:44.200 said
00:28:44.560 it
00:28:44.960 was
00:28:45.080 unusual
00:28:45.520 because
00:28:45.960 federal
00:28:46.400 agents
00:28:46.840 were
00:28:47.060 at
00:28:47.340 the
00:28:47.800 auction
00:28:48.120 bidding
00:28:48.540 and
00:28:49.920 they
00:28:50.100 didn't
00:28:50.380 win
00:28:50.660 the
00:28:50.900 house
00:28:51.160 ended
00:28:51.560 up
00:28:51.840 going
00:28:52.000 back
00:28:52.280 to
00:28:52.420 the
00:28:52.560 mortgage
00:28:52.860 lender
00:28:53.320 but
00:28:54.200 I
00:28:54.560 mean
00:28:54.940 I
00:28:55.580 would
00:28:55.740 have
00:28:55.860 never
00:28:56.080 known
00:28:56.360 that
00:28:56.600 unless
00:28:56.880 he
00:28:57.240 would
00:28:57.560 have
00:28:57.680 offered
00:28:58.040 to
00:28:58.480 purchase
00:28:59.400 it
00:28:59.720 and
00:29:00.280 yeah
00:29:01.920 the
00:29:02.260 restitution
00:29:03.720 is
00:29:05.060 it's
00:29:05.980 a battle
00:29:06.380 I just
00:29:06.860 got off
00:29:07.180 the phone
00:29:07.460 with my
00:29:07.860 attorney
00:29:08.200 and he's
00:29:08.700 going to
00:29:08.820 be
00:29:08.940 writing
00:29:09.200 a letter
00:29:10.340 to
00:29:10.860 the
00:29:12.120 DC
00:29:12.440 office
00:29:12.840 about
00:29:13.400 having
00:29:13.740 that
00:29:14.040 put
00:29:14.620 in
00:29:14.880 from
00:29:15.100 the
00:29:15.260 forfeiture
00:29:15.700 to
00:29:15.960 restitution
00:29:16.660 but
00:29:17.740 no one
00:29:18.140 knows
00:29:18.320 where
00:29:18.440 the
00:29:18.560 money
00:29:18.700 is
00:29:18.960 like
00:29:19.520 I've
00:29:20.280 asked
00:29:20.620 and
00:29:20.820 nobody
00:29:21.480 can
00:29:21.860 I've
00:29:22.540 written
00:29:22.720 multiple
00:29:23.140 letters
00:29:23.480 to the
00:29:23.920 district
00:29:24.180 of Hawaii
00:29:24.720 to the
00:29:25.500 court
00:29:25.800 and no
00:29:26.660 one
00:29:26.820 knows
00:29:27.040 where
00:29:27.240 it
00:29:27.360 is
00:29:27.620 so
00:29:28.160 that's
00:29:28.880 a little
00:29:29.180 concerning
00:29:29.760 I must
00:29:31.400 ask you
00:29:31.820 on a
00:29:32.040 personal
00:29:32.300 level
00:29:32.560 how has
00:29:33.000 the
00:29:33.140 impact
00:29:33.600 been
00:29:33.840 on
00:29:34.020 your
00:29:34.160 wife
00:29:34.440 Erin
00:29:34.780 and
00:29:35.040 your
00:29:35.220 kids
00:29:35.560 you
00:29:37.220 know
00:29:37.560 Erin
00:29:37.940 is
00:29:38.220 a
00:29:38.400 very
00:29:38.780 strong
00:29:39.580 woman
00:29:40.140 that's
00:29:40.680 what
00:29:40.820 I
00:29:40.980 fell
00:29:41.300 in
00:29:41.460 love
00:29:41.640 with
00:29:41.900 when
00:29:44.020 she
00:29:44.520 first
00:29:45.160 had
00:29:45.720 to
00:29:46.200 surrender
00:29:46.840 the
00:29:47.320 judge
00:29:47.660 was
00:29:48.080 cruel
00:29:49.580 and
00:29:49.900 made
00:29:50.120 her
00:29:50.460 surrender
00:29:50.880 to
00:29:51.120 the
00:29:51.300 what
00:29:51.780 it
00:29:51.920 let
00:29:52.060 her
00:29:52.180 get
00:29:52.360 designated
00:29:52.760 to
00:29:53.140 her
00:29:53.340 camp
00:29:53.760 she
00:29:54.120 had
00:29:54.260 to
00:29:54.400 surrender
00:29:54.760 to
00:29:55.320 the
00:29:56.320 marshal
00:29:56.660 services
00:29:57.140 in
00:29:57.420 Fresno
00:29:57.860 we live
00:29:58.460 in
00:29:58.660 San
00:29:58.840 Lisbon
00:29:59.060 California
00:29:59.680 so it's
00:30:00.220 an hour
00:30:00.760 and a half
00:30:01.060 drive
00:30:01.360 and I
00:30:01.600 took her
00:30:01.960 there
00:30:02.220 and the
00:30:03.120 marshals
00:30:03.540 didn't
00:30:03.740 understand
00:30:04.400 why
00:30:04.780 she
00:30:04.980 was
00:30:05.180 there
00:30:05.540 they
00:30:06.280 didn't
00:30:06.460 know
00:30:06.600 what
00:30:06.760 to
00:30:06.880 do
00:30:07.060 with
00:30:07.240 her
00:30:07.380 so they
00:30:07.720 put
00:30:07.980 her
00:30:08.160 in
00:30:08.340 county
00:30:08.660 jail
00:30:09.140 in
00:30:09.420 Fresno
00:30:09.880 for
00:30:10.200 almost
00:30:10.560 three
00:30:10.920 weeks
00:30:11.360 it was
00:30:13.620 the toughest
00:30:14.020 thing
00:30:14.360 she's
00:30:14.700 ever
00:30:14.940 been
00:30:15.200 through
00:30:15.600 and
00:30:17.020 is
00:30:17.140 one
00:30:17.280 of the
00:30:17.440 toughest
00:30:17.620 things
00:30:17.920 I've
00:30:18.140 ever
00:30:18.300 had
00:30:18.460 to
00:30:18.580 hear
00:30:18.820 on
00:30:18.960 the
00:30:19.060 other
00:30:19.220 end
00:30:19.440 of
00:30:19.540 a
00:30:19.660 phone
00:30:19.920 is
00:30:20.100 her
00:30:20.220 husband
00:30:20.540 she
00:30:22.840 is
00:30:23.060 fine
00:30:23.760 now
00:30:24.240 in
00:30:24.880 her
00:30:25.200 camp
00:30:25.580 in
00:30:25.800 Victorville
00:30:26.580 obviously
00:30:27.700 it's
00:30:28.240 not
00:30:28.460 ideal
00:30:29.040 but
00:30:29.500 she's
00:30:29.980 just
00:30:30.180 kind
00:30:30.480 of
00:30:30.560 keeping
00:30:30.780 her
00:30:30.960 head
00:30:31.120 down
00:30:31.400 and
00:30:31.620 praying
00:30:31.960 every
00:30:32.240 day
00:30:32.500 that
00:30:32.840 well
00:30:33.960 we
00:30:34.740 can
00:30:34.920 get
00:30:35.060 the
00:30:35.200 truth
00:30:35.380 out
00:30:35.600 there
00:30:35.820 and
00:30:36.020 somebody
00:30:36.400 with
00:30:37.240 some
00:30:37.420 power
00:30:37.680 can
00:30:37.940 can
00:30:38.360 can
00:30:39.020 with
00:30:39.600 and
00:30:39.860 some
00:30:40.040 common
00:30:40.340 sense
00:30:40.700 can
00:30:40.980 actually
00:30:41.860 see
00:30:42.220 what
00:30:42.560 happened
00:30:42.960 to
00:30:43.180 us
00:30:43.480 obviously
00:30:45.300 the
00:30:45.540 conditions
00:30:45.920 aren't
00:30:46.280 great
00:30:46.620 but
00:30:47.040 you know
00:30:47.460 what
00:30:47.620 she
00:30:47.780 said
00:30:48.060 most
00:30:48.620 of
00:30:48.760 the
00:30:48.860 guards
00:30:49.120 and
00:30:49.280 everyone
00:30:49.540 there
00:30:49.860 is
00:30:50.100 friendly
00:30:50.780 and
00:30:51.340 understanding
00:30:52.360 of
00:30:52.660 the
00:30:53.060 majority
00:30:53.400 of
00:30:53.560 the
00:30:53.580 people
00:30:53.800 so
00:30:53.980 she
00:30:54.120 doesn't
00:30:54.340 have
00:30:54.620 bad
00:30:56.080 bad
00:30:56.340 things
00:30:56.580 to
00:30:56.740 say
00:30:56.980 about
00:30:57.300 where
00:30:57.480 she
00:30:57.660 is
00:30:57.900 but
00:30:58.100 obviously
00:30:58.500 this
00:30:59.240 woman
00:30:59.480 has
00:30:59.840 never
00:31:00.020 had
00:31:00.200 a
00:31:00.320 parking
00:31:00.580 ticket
00:31:00.920 since
00:31:01.180 I've
00:31:01.440 known
00:31:02.080 her
00:31:02.300 so
00:31:02.660 to
00:31:03.540 even
00:31:03.800 be
00:31:04.160 anywhere
00:31:04.560 near
00:31:04.860 a
00:31:05.020 federal
00:31:05.240 facility
00:31:05.800 is
00:31:06.200 ridiculous
00:31:07.640 so
00:31:08.900 Chris
00:31:09.300 have
00:31:09.900 you
00:31:10.160 thought
00:31:10.780 about
00:31:11.040 setting
00:31:11.420 up
00:31:11.700 a
00:31:12.060 GoFundMe
00:31:12.660 or
00:31:13.000 a
00:31:13.960 website
00:31:14.280 where
00:31:14.580 people
00:31:14.840 can
00:31:15.140 keep
00:31:15.420 track
00:31:15.760 of
00:31:15.900 your
00:31:16.020 case
00:31:16.340 and
00:31:16.480 maybe
00:31:16.660 offer
00:31:16.960 support
00:31:17.480 not
00:31:19.020 really
00:31:21.420 I
00:31:21.640 mean
00:31:21.760 I
00:31:22.080 I've
00:31:23.080 been
00:31:23.280 so
00:31:23.540 busy
00:31:23.800 we
00:31:24.000 own
00:31:24.280 business
00:31:24.840 through
00:31:25.160 all
00:31:25.480 of
00:31:25.600 this
00:31:25.740 we
00:31:25.900 were
00:31:26.020 able
00:31:26.160 to
00:31:26.340 start
00:31:26.620 a
00:31:26.940 whole
00:31:27.080 other
00:31:27.320 business
00:31:27.680 under
00:31:28.140 the
00:31:28.800 most
00:31:29.120 trying
00:31:30.280 of
00:31:30.480 times
00:31:30.860 and
00:31:31.160 you
00:31:32.160 know
00:31:32.580 it's
00:31:33.180 doing
00:31:33.400 really
00:31:33.700 good
00:31:33.980 so
00:31:34.140 that
00:31:34.320 takes
00:31:34.580 the
00:31:34.720 majority
00:31:35.080 of
00:31:35.200 my
00:31:35.320 focus
00:31:35.620 and
00:31:35.820 obviously
00:31:36.140 I'm
00:31:36.480 raising
00:31:36.900 two
00:31:37.680 young
00:31:37.920 boys
00:31:38.220 as
00:31:38.480 a
00:31:39.520 pseudo
00:31:39.840 single
00:31:40.680 father
00:31:41.140 right
00:31:41.440 now
00:31:41.820 and
00:31:43.700 you
00:31:44.840 know
00:31:45.000 they're
00:31:45.560 hanging
00:31:45.860 in there
00:31:46.260 our oldest
00:31:46.740 obviously
00:31:47.360 was more
00:31:47.900 of a
00:31:48.120 mama's
00:31:48.420 boy
00:31:48.660 and
00:31:49.120 I
00:31:49.700 can
00:31:49.840 tell
00:31:50.080 he
00:31:50.300 misses
00:31:50.780 Aaron
00:31:51.140 our
00:31:51.980 youngest
00:31:52.280 Nico
00:31:52.640 he
00:31:54.480 always
00:31:54.880 looked
00:31:55.120 more
00:31:55.360 up
00:31:55.500 to
00:31:55.620 me
00:31:55.840 so
00:31:56.060 I
00:31:56.220 think
00:31:56.460 he
00:31:56.880 isn't
00:31:57.340 getting
00:31:57.720 hit
00:31:58.000 with
00:31:58.240 the
00:31:58.360 effect
00:31:58.680 of
00:31:58.840 it
00:31:59.000 as
00:31:59.320 much
00:31:59.680 but
00:32:00.100 we
00:32:03.340 don't
00:32:03.520 need
00:32:03.700 the
00:32:03.900 money
00:32:04.140 I
00:32:04.400 don't
00:32:04.560 care
00:32:04.800 about
00:32:05.040 money
00:32:05.380 I
00:32:05.700 just
00:32:05.900 care
00:32:06.100 about
00:32:06.320 getting
00:32:06.560 her
00:32:06.760 home
00:32:07.100 but
00:32:07.400 obviously
00:32:08.120 our
00:32:08.320 story
00:32:08.760 could
00:32:09.060 make
00:32:09.280 an
00:32:09.400 impact
00:32:09.800 for
00:32:10.080 other
00:32:10.320 people
00:32:10.640 so
00:32:11.600 I've
00:32:11.840 thought
00:32:12.060 about
00:32:12.400 starting
00:32:13.340 some
00:32:13.600 kind
00:32:13.820 of
00:32:13.940 blog
00:32:14.300 or
00:32:14.500 something
00:32:14.780 like
00:32:15.060 that
00:32:15.260 obviously
00:32:15.580 Aaron's
00:32:16.020 keeping
00:32:16.260 notes
00:32:16.680 and
00:32:16.920 we
00:32:17.500 are
00:32:17.660 writers
00:32:17.980 so
00:32:18.340 obviously
00:32:18.720 this
00:32:19.020 could
00:32:19.240 be
00:32:19.580 a
00:32:20.420 book
00:32:20.640 someday
00:32:21.000 or
00:32:21.200 a
00:32:21.360 documentary
00:32:21.820 or
00:32:22.120 something
00:32:22.420 that
00:32:22.840 would
00:32:23.920 just
00:32:24.300 blow
00:32:24.560 you
00:32:24.760 away
00:32:25.060 on
00:32:25.360 what
00:32:26.580 can
00:32:26.760 happen
00:32:27.040 to
00:32:27.340 a
00:32:27.700 normal
00:32:27.920 family
00:32:28.320 all
00:32:28.860 right
00:32:29.080 Chris
00:32:29.400 Mousset
00:32:29.740 thank you
00:32:30.220 so much
00:32:30.720 for coming
00:32:31.420 into the
00:32:31.840 stone
00:32:32.040 zone
00:32:32.240 telling us
00:32:32.800 your
00:32:32.940 story
00:32:33.240 today
00:32:33.520 and
00:32:33.820 we
00:32:34.380 will
00:32:34.560 be
00:32:34.760 praying
00:32:35.100 for
00:32:35.360 you
00:32:35.700 and
00:32:36.320 your
00:32:36.520 wife
00:32:36.800 Aaron
00:32:37.100 and
00:32:37.700 your
00:32:37.860 two
00:32:38.120 young
00:32:38.420 boys
00:32:38.800 don't
00:32:39.480 go
00:32:39.640 away
00:32:39.880 folks
00:32:40.200 I'll
00:32:40.480 be
00:32:40.600 right
00:32:40.820 back
00:32:41.180 in
00:32:41.520 the
00:32:41.740 stone
00:32:41.980 zone
00:32:42.300 whether
00:32:43.540 the
00:32:47.980 in
00:32:48.400 an
00:32:48.540 article
00:32:48.800 investigating
00:32:49.540 the
00:32:49.960 quote
00:32:50.500 mysterious
00:32:51.080 drop
00:32:51.580 in
00:32:51.760 fentanyl
00:32:52.240 seizures
00:32:52.620 on
00:32:53.320 the
00:32:53.480 U.S.-Mexico
00:32:54.420 border
00:32:54.780 the
00:32:54.940 Washington
00:32:55.240 Post
00:32:55.580 explores
00:32:56.320 what they
00:32:56.640 call
00:32:56.900 a new
00:32:57.280 and
00:32:57.460 puzzling
00:32:58.020 reality
00:32:58.640 the
00:32:59.300 explanation
00:32:59.760 they
00:33:00.180 say
00:33:00.440 is
00:33:00.760 complex
00:33:01.700 of
00:33:01.960 course
00:33:02.160 it's
00:33:02.340 only
00:33:02.540 puzzling
00:33:03.060 and
00:33:03.500 complex
00:33:03.920 if
00:33:04.200 one
00:33:04.380 refuses
00:33:04.800 to
00:33:05.020 acknowledge
00:33:05.520 that
00:33:06.180 President
00:33:06.600 Donald
00:33:07.000 Trump
00:33:07.420 has
00:33:07.960 stemmed
00:33:08.660 the
00:33:08.900 flow
00:33:09.200 of
00:33:09.440 drug
00:33:09.700 smuggling
00:33:10.080 by
00:33:10.840 enforcing
00:33:11.620 the
00:33:11.960 law
00:33:12.400 against
00:33:12.880 illegals
00:33:13.560 entering
00:33:14.040 the
00:33:14.280 country
00:33:14.700 on
00:33:15.320 our
00:33:15.540 southern
00:33:16.040 border
00:33:16.640 fentanyl
00:33:17.500 seizures
00:33:17.900 have
00:33:18.300 plummeted
00:33:18.800 from
00:33:19.020 1700
00:33:20.040 pounds
00:33:20.900 in
00:33:21.960 2024
00:33:23.540 to
00:33:24.020 746
00:33:25.460 pounds
00:33:26.060 in
00:33:26.280 2025
00:33:26.940 according
00:33:27.940 to
00:33:28.400 the
00:33:28.660 Washington
00:33:29.280 Post
00:33:29.840 the
00:33:30.380 declines
00:33:30.920 occurring
00:33:31.380 even
00:33:31.760 as
00:33:31.980 the
00:33:32.100 Trump
00:33:32.320 administration
00:33:32.920 has
00:33:33.280 deployed
00:33:33.700 thousands
00:33:34.440 of
00:33:34.740 troops
00:33:35.000 to
00:33:35.160 the
00:33:35.280 borders
00:33:35.580 and
00:33:35.780 expanded
00:33:36.300 drone
00:33:37.000 flights
00:33:37.380 with
00:33:37.620 more
00:33:37.860 boots
00:33:38.080 on
00:33:38.280 the
00:33:38.400 ground
00:33:38.720 you'd
00:33:39.620 think
00:33:39.960 that
00:33:40.160 seizures
00:33:40.480 would
00:33:40.820 go
00:33:41.060 up
00:33:41.420 not
00:33:41.900 down
00:33:42.380 now
00:33:43.060 you might
00:33:43.540 think
00:33:43.840 that
00:33:44.060 if you
00:33:44.340 fail
00:33:44.600 to
00:33:44.760 consider
00:33:45.080 for a
00:33:45.440 second
00:33:45.660 that
00:33:45.980 the
00:33:46.200 thousands
00:33:47.000 of
00:33:47.240 boots
00:33:47.460 on
00:33:48.020 the
00:33:48.140 ground
00:33:48.460 provide
00:33:48.900 deterrence
00:33:49.600 against
00:33:50.020 Mexican
00:33:50.800 drug
00:33:51.420 cartels
00:33:52.020 avoiding
00:33:52.940 being
00:33:53.280 thrown
00:33:53.780 in
00:33:54.020 prison
00:33:54.320 something
00:33:54.700 cartels
00:33:55.260 don't
00:33:55.840 have to
00:33:56.160 worry
00:33:56.420 about
00:33:56.800 so much
00:33:57.700 under
00:33:58.020 Joe
00:33:58.580 Biden
00:33:58.940 is
00:33:59.140 undoubtedly
00:33:59.600 a
00:33:59.960 significant
00:34:00.400 factor
00:34:01.240 in the
00:34:01.700 drop
00:34:02.100 of
00:34:02.300 narcotics
00:34:02.900 seizures
00:34:03.440 a
00:34:04.220 White House
00:34:04.600 spokeswoman
00:34:05.140 responded
00:34:05.740 to the
00:34:06.020 Washington
00:34:06.300 Post
00:34:06.540 by saying
00:34:07.100 the
00:34:07.680 drop
00:34:08.100 in
00:34:08.320 fentanyl
00:34:09.220 seizures
00:34:09.740 at the
00:34:10.160 border
00:34:10.640 is only
00:34:11.080 a mystery
00:34:11.560 to the
00:34:12.300 Washington
00:34:12.680 Post
00:34:12.980 reporters
00:34:13.420 suffering
00:34:14.140 from a
00:34:14.700 severe case
00:34:15.520 of
00:34:15.740 Trump
00:34:16.380 derangement
00:34:17.440 syndrome
00:34:18.060 also known
00:34:18.780 as
00:34:19.020 TDS
00:34:20.340 everyone
00:34:21.460 else
00:34:22.280 not
00:34:22.880 affected
00:34:23.280 by
00:34:23.580 TDS
00:34:24.260 knows
00:34:25.040 the
00:34:25.300 simple
00:34:25.580 truth
00:34:26.060 that
00:34:26.660 President
00:34:27.060 Trump's
00:34:27.600 closed
00:34:28.320 our border
00:34:28.800 to illegal
00:34:29.380 drug
00:34:29.660 traffickers
00:34:30.200 and Americans
00:34:30.920 are safer
00:34:31.760 because of
00:34:32.360 it
00:34:32.540 as of
00:34:33.460 March
00:34:33.800 fentanyl
00:34:34.300 traffic
00:34:34.700 at the
00:34:34.960 southern
00:34:35.180 border
00:34:35.420 had fallen
00:34:35.900 by more
00:34:36.780 than half
00:34:37.380 of the
00:34:37.680 same amount
00:34:38.300 last year
00:34:38.960 while Joe
00:34:39.940 Biden's
00:34:40.440 open borders
00:34:41.220 were still
00:34:41.840 terrorizing
00:34:42.800 and destroying
00:34:43.480 America
00:34:44.100 the
00:34:44.780 Washington
00:34:45.160 Post
00:34:45.520 theory
00:34:46.040 is
00:34:46.340 the
00:34:46.480 drugs
00:34:46.780 just
00:34:47.060 stopped
00:34:47.400 being
00:34:48.160 cool
00:34:49.160 this
00:34:49.600 year
00:34:49.900 at least
00:34:51.100 that's
00:34:51.460 essentially
00:34:51.860 what they
00:34:52.240 say in
00:34:52.580 their article
00:34:53.080 you're getting
00:34:53.900 this generational
00:34:54.960 effect
00:34:55.580 illicit
00:34:56.040 opiates
00:34:56.540 are just
00:34:56.960 not as
00:34:58.020 cool
00:34:58.620 as they
00:34:59.140 were
00:34:59.480 an
00:35:00.040 epidemiologist
00:35:01.120 was quoted
00:35:02.080 by the
00:35:02.620 Washington
00:35:02.940 Post
00:35:03.320 as saying
00:35:04.020 it's amazing
00:35:05.220 how fentanyl
00:35:06.040 apparently
00:35:06.480 lost its
00:35:07.200 addictive
00:35:07.580 nature
00:35:08.120 as soon
00:35:08.860 as President
00:35:09.380 Donald Trump
00:35:09.940 took office
00:35:10.580 apparently
00:35:11.120 this is why
00:35:12.360 I don't
00:35:12.960 get my
00:35:13.380 news
00:35:13.740 from the
00:35:14.260 Washington
00:35:14.600 Post
00:35:15.000 for the
00:35:15.700 same reason
00:35:16.280 I don't
00:35:16.980 eat out
00:35:17.640 of the
00:35:18.220 toilet
00:35:18.620 a new
00:35:19.780 poll out
00:35:20.560 from
00:35:21.120 Atlas
00:35:22.260 intel
00:35:22.940 of the
00:35:23.600 2028
00:35:24.700 Democrat
00:35:25.580 presidential
00:35:26.200 contest
00:35:26.660 has
00:35:26.980 Pete
00:35:27.560 Buttigieg
00:35:28.040 in the
00:35:28.640 lead
00:35:28.900 at
00:35:29.140 32%
00:35:30.220 AOC
00:35:30.720 at
00:35:31.000 19%
00:35:32.380 former
00:35:33.160 Vice
00:35:33.500 President
00:35:33.920 Kamala
00:35:34.660 Harris
00:35:35.000 at
00:35:35.260 17%
00:35:36.300 Cory
00:35:37.360 Booker
00:35:38.200 at
00:35:38.860 10%
00:35:39.640 Governor
00:35:40.500 Gavin
00:35:41.060 Newsom
00:35:41.460 at
00:35:41.640 7%
00:35:42.500 Little
00:35:43.320 Josh
00:35:43.740 Puro
00:35:44.100 Pennsylvania
00:35:44.540 at
00:35:44.880 5%
00:35:45.560 Governor
00:35:46.520 Gretchen
00:35:47.200 Whitmer
00:35:47.600 of Michigan
00:35:48.100 at
00:35:48.380 4%
00:35:48.960 and
00:35:49.920 Reverend
00:35:51.100 Raphael
00:35:51.800 Warnock
00:35:52.260 the senator
00:35:52.640 from Georgia
00:35:53.220 at
00:35:53.520 1%
00:35:54.160 You know
00:35:55.360 you can
00:35:55.880 make a
00:35:56.200 poll say
00:35:56.700 anything
00:35:57.020 you want
00:35:57.500 by the
00:35:57.960 wording of
00:35:58.380 the question
00:35:58.860 the order
00:35:59.440 of the
00:35:59.880 questions
00:36:00.360 the size
00:36:01.920 and accuracy
00:36:02.960 of the
00:36:03.540 sample
00:36:03.900 every
00:36:04.740 credible
00:36:05.320 poll
00:36:05.780 that I
00:36:06.380 have seen
00:36:06.900 shows
00:36:07.540 Kamala
00:36:08.080 Harris
00:36:08.560 would be
00:36:09.320 the easy
00:36:10.180 front runner
00:36:10.900 makes sense
00:36:11.780 she just
00:36:12.300 spent
00:36:12.640 $300
00:36:13.440 million
00:36:13.800 running
00:36:14.520 for
00:36:14.780 president
00:36:15.240 and
00:36:16.460 AOC
00:36:17.040 is a
00:36:17.600 surprisingly
00:36:18.160 strong
00:36:18.860 second
00:36:19.440 place
00:36:19.960 finisher
00:36:20.460 although
00:36:21.280 my
00:36:21.900 favorite
00:36:22.300 remains
00:36:22.940 an
00:36:23.380 AOC
00:36:23.940 Jasmine
00:36:25.100 Crockett
00:36:25.960 ticket
00:36:26.480 make
00:36:27.240 my
00:36:27.960 day
00:36:28.500 thanks
00:36:29.100 for
00:36:29.340 joining
00:36:29.780 us
00:36:30.000 today
00:36:30.380 in
00:36:30.680 the
00:36:30.820 stone
00:36:31.060 zone
00:36:31.380 until
00:36:31.720 tomorrow
00:36:32.220 God
00:36:32.780 bless
00:36:33.060 you
00:36:33.320 and
00:36:33.840 God
00:36:34.380 speed