The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - June 10, 2025


The Stone Zone ｜ 06-10-25

Topics
L.A. riots Russian and Ukrainian conflict
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Roger Stone Troy Smith Jake Novak
Mentioned
Donald Trump Douglas McGregor Gavin Newsom Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Joe Biden Richard Blumenthal Lindsey Graham Tom Homan Zelensky George Soros Douglas MacArthur Sam Harris Barack Obama Harry Truman John Durham Eisenhower Putin Doug Kash Patel George W. Bush and 21 more
David Schoen ｜ 06-06-25 The Stone Zone ｜ 06-11-25

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The Stone Zone is a place where you can listen to the opinions and thoughts of a well-known and influential person in order to make sense of the world around them. Today's guest is none other than Roger Stone.

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00:00:30.000 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:00:44.060 People love him and respect him.
00:00:45.520 Roger Stone.
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00:00:48.720 It's the Stone Zone.
00:00:50.760 Here's Roger Stone.
00:00:53.420 Welcome.
00:00:54.400 You are entering the Stone Zone for yet another day.
00:00:58.360 We see images of cars being set on fire, ice officers being attacked, rocks, bottles, chunks of concrete, baggies full of feces and urine being hurled at ice vehicles and officers.
00:01:13.880 Protesters blocking traffic.
00:01:16.320 Yesterday, they tried to close down the 101 freeway.
00:01:20.840 And they are laying siege to federal buildings.
00:01:24.760 President Donald Trump has ordered 2,000 National Guard troops to the scene.
00:01:32.660 Governor Gavin Newsom argues that that is unconstitutional.
00:01:36.900 Actually, President Eisenhower sent National Guard troops to Arkansas.
00:01:42.820 It was challenged and found to be constitutional.
00:01:45.660 George Wallace objected when President John Kennedy sent National Guard troops to Alabama to enforce integration, once again upheld by the Supreme Court.
00:01:57.040 Gavin Newsom is posturing.
00:01:59.240 See, he is a guy whose political fortunes were largely in the toilet because of the quality of life issues in California, exacerbated by his terrible handling of the recent fires.
00:02:14.080 Now he orchestrated this entire charade with ICE, Concho, Tom Homan.
00:02:21.660 Homan never threatened to arrest the governor, Gavin Newsom.
00:02:26.920 He said any public official who harbored an illegal, who interfered with the arrest of an illegal, or who otherwise assaulted an ICE officer would be arrested.
00:02:42.200 That criteria does not meet Gavin Newsom, but Newsom used it to try to taunt Homan, saying, come on, big guy, arrest me.
00:02:52.760 In his dreams, his arrest would only make him a hero on the radical left.
00:02:59.160 I continue to predict that this insurrection is much, much larger than just Los Angeles.
00:03:07.660 This is the precursor to what we saw in this country in 2020.
00:03:14.020 You remember that.
00:03:15.440 In the period between May 26th and October 31st, we had 19 confirmed deaths.
00:03:23.960 In Chicago, there were 15 fatalities alone.
00:03:27.300 Several more in Minneapolis, St. Paul.
00:03:30.100 284 Chicago police officers were injured, over 2,000 police officers injured across the entire country.
00:03:38.840 At the same time, you had over $2 billion of damage to both public and private property.
00:03:49.160 Damage in Minneapolis, where this all began, saw $500 million in damage at about 1,500 different property locations.
00:03:57.100 You'll recall, at that juncture, although some urged President Trump to send in the National Guard,
00:04:04.920 he elected to let the governors make that decision.
00:04:08.700 That left the decision in Minnesota up to Tim Walz, and he did not move quickly, causing enormous damage.
00:04:16.840 Donald Trump clearly not going to make that mistake again, acting very aggressively.
00:04:23.140 I believe that there is actually a planned insurrection here.
00:04:30.920 An excellent report by Peter Duke at the Duke Report lays this at the feet of Nicholas Berggruen and his Berggruen Institute.
00:04:41.420 That makes a very strong case.
00:04:43.520 But I would like to see FBI Director Kash Patel conduct an intensive investigation to see who is orchestrating this.
00:04:52.980 These are paid, professional agitators, most of them wearing black masks.
00:04:58.220 The pallets of bricks, which people tell me I'm imagining, but which I've seen with my own eyes, are coming from somewhere.
00:05:06.260 And proof that this is going to merely spread is the fact that radical leftist organizations have announced
00:05:14.820 that they're organizing a nationwide protest against President Donald Trump and his deportion of illegals for June 14th.
00:05:24.080 The so-called No Kings protests are being orchestrated by extremist groups like the Party for Socialism and Liberation,
00:05:34.300 the Democratic Socialists of America, Indivisible, and the 50501 movement.
00:05:41.280 Now, these groups claim to be organizing over 1,800 demonstrations in all 50 states to disrupt law and order,
00:05:49.500 vilify President Trump, and demonize immigration and customs from doing its job.
00:05:55.920 If the demonstrations remain peaceful, well, then, under our Constitution, folks are allowed to do that.
00:06:02.040 I'm prepared to wager today that they will not remain peaceful because that is not their intention.
00:06:08.080 Notably, the group will be holding a protest in Z, saying that No Kings is hosting an event in Washington.
00:06:16.180 They will have major flagship march and rallies in Philadelphia to draw a clear contrast between our people-powered movement
00:06:22.960 and the costful, wasteful, and un-American birthday parade in Washington. 0.96
00:06:28.520 These people are deranged, deranged.
00:06:31.920 And the President's parade to honor our military, it's about time. 0.67
00:06:38.680 The groups are exploiting the day the President's holding that patriotic U.S. Army 250th anniversary parade in Washington, D.C.
00:06:47.780 in order to push their anti-American agenda.
00:06:52.860 The protest website that I read says they've defied our courts, deported Americans,
00:07:00.140 disappeared people off the streets, attacked our civil rights, and slashed our services.
00:07:04.440 That is a description of the Biden administration, as a matter of fact.
00:07:09.400 That's a description of the Obama administration.
00:07:12.980 Disappeared our people. 1.00
00:07:14.460 You mean removed violent, illegal criminals from the United States?
00:07:19.200 Defied our courts?
00:07:20.380 No, actually, Trump has managed to prevail in court, although, unfortunately, he's had to appeal several times to get to a court that would overreel,
00:07:28.840 hack Democrat partisan judges from issuing rulings.
00:07:33.800 For example, the ruling by Jed Bosberg in the D.C. District Court that Donald Trump didn't have the authority to deport dangerous illegals.
00:07:43.440 Of course he does judge.
00:07:44.720 You actually know he does.
00:07:46.220 That's overturned by the Supreme Court.
00:07:48.600 Then you had the Court of International Trade, which no one has ever heard of before this.
00:07:55.180 They ruled that Donald Trump doesn't have the authority to negotiate tariff agreements with our trading partners.
00:08:02.720 Now, they agreed that Barack Obama had that authority.
00:08:06.180 Joe Biden had that authority.
00:08:08.160 Even George W. Bush had that authority.
00:08:09.960 But now, suddenly, this three-judge panel of leftists have decided that Donald Trump does not have that authority.
00:08:18.260 So, to the extent that there is judicial tyranny in this country, it's coming not from the right, but from the left.
00:08:25.820 Just remember Alinsky's rule.
00:08:27.860 Saul Alinsky was a famous leftist who wrote a rule book.
00:08:31.340 And the first of his rules was, always blame your opposition for exactly what you yourself are doing.
00:08:39.320 And that is what we have seen from the radical left.
00:08:43.080 The protests are scheduled to take place less than a week after this huge mass anarchy in Los Angeles,
00:08:51.180 where the ICE raids, which began on June 6th, triggered in riots that saw, at least so far, 11 police officers injured,
00:09:00.160 a number of Waymo taxis torched, the 101 freeway turned into a war zone,
00:09:06.100 with protesters, again, hurling concrete, rental scooters, bricks, rocks, stones, bottles, and other unmentionables.
00:09:16.460 Walmart heiress Christy Walton is funding full-page ads of the New York Times to promote No King's Day,
00:09:23.800 urging a Nashua Day of defiance and calling for the people to rise up.
00:09:28.380 Therefore, I am calling on all Americans to boycott Walmart.
00:09:33.700 Don't give your money to people who hate America.
00:09:37.200 It looks like the Walmart dynasty is big mad about the China tariffs. 0.94
00:09:42.620 That's because they're in bed with the Chinese. 0.99
00:09:46.820 Alex Jones responded to the No King's ad by saying, 0.90
00:09:51.520 This is a communist Chinese front group, and it is openly organized in an attempt to overthrow the United States on June 14th.
00:10:00.340 He added that the group is also George Soros-backed.
00:10:04.680 Indivisible, that's the organizer behind that week's No King's protest, received $7 million from George Soros.
00:10:15.880 So, once again, we see the usual suspects.
00:10:19.740 Meanwhile, Mexico's president is actually egging on the violent insurrections in Los Angeles.
00:10:27.200 Mexico's president this past Sunday poured gasoline on the fire,
00:10:32.580 essentially joined the ongoing insurrection in L.A. while threatening the United States with more mayhem.
00:10:38.940 After violence broke out on Friday against ICE agents conducting multiple raids in downtown L.A.,
00:10:46.940 Mexican president Claudia Scheinbaum began egging on the violent protesters
00:10:51.940 and lashing out at the Trump administration for trying to enforce the law.
00:10:57.240 During a speech in Mexico City, Scheinbaum hailed the rioters,
00:11:02.820 those who are hurling rocks, bottles, chunks of concrete,
00:11:07.320 baggies of urine and feces at ICE and police officers as good men and women
00:11:13.820 who just want to support their families.
00:11:17.320 Mexicans living in the United States are good men and women,
00:11:19.740 honest people who went to the United States to seek a better life and to support their families.
00:11:25.120 Scheinbaum is absolutely right.
00:11:27.420 Those Mexicans who came here illegally have done exactly that. 1.00
00:11:30.560 Those Mexicans who came here illegally are not doing so properly. 1.00
00:11:37.120 They are, by the way, taking jobs that belong to Americans and they have to be deported. 0.99
00:11:42.740 They can go apply for citizenship and to enter the country in the legal way,
00:11:48.420 in which many Mexican-Americans have.
00:11:52.300 If necessary, we'll mobilize.
00:11:54.840 We don't want taxes on remittance from our fellow countrymen.
00:11:58.340 Remittance makes up about 4% of Mexico's gross domestic product.
00:12:03.860 So she's threatening another insurrection against America
00:12:06.920 for tax money flowing out of our country to her. 0.99
00:12:12.080 You have to wonder what the thinking is here.
00:12:15.760 If you're just tuning in, this is Roger Stone.
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00:12:22.980 We're taking a deep dive into the L.A. riots,
00:12:26.920 as well as what the political motivations of Gavin Newsom are.
00:12:32.840 Yesterday, we visited with John Phillips of KABC in Los Angeles,
00:12:37.340 who explained that this is Gavin Newsom's strategy to get around the real frontrunner
00:12:43.520 for the 2028 presidential nomination on the Democrat side.
00:12:47.900 That would be Kamala Harris, perhaps soon to be Governor Kamala Harris. 1.00
00:12:54.300 So you can see Gavin Newsom furiously operating to take advantage of this tragedy in Los Angeles.
00:13:05.560 It is nothing more than naked politics, folks.
00:13:09.600 But that's what you come to the Stone Zone for,
00:13:11.700 for us to expose the naked politics of what happens every day in our nation's capital
00:13:17.360 and across the country.
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00:13:22.140 We'll be right back.
00:13:23.840 Joining us shortly, Colonel Douglas McGregor.
00:13:26.860 He thinks President Trump should enact the Insurrection Act
00:13:30.540 to counteract the coming revolt,
00:13:33.500 an effort to overturn and overthrow his administration.
00:13:36.720 We'll be talking to him in just a little bit.
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00:14:27.620 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:14:31.240 They went after a guy named Roger Stone who's sitting in the office.
00:14:35.000 And I'll say this in front of Roger, he's no baby.
00:14:37.100 And right now, he's cleaner than anybody in this place.
00:14:40.900 Now, they treated him very unfairly.
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00:14:52.600 Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:14:55.740 said today that he is firing all 17 members of a government panel of vaccination advisors.
00:15:02.960 A clean sweep is needed to reestablish public confidence in vaccine science, Secretary Kennedy told the Wall Street Journal.
00:15:12.360 Kennedy is removing all members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, or ACIP, which advises the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
00:15:23.100 The group reviews vaccination data and makes recommendations that determine who is eligible for shots and whether insurers should cover them, among other things.
00:15:34.060 Kennedy and his HHS will put the restoration of public trust above any pro or anti-vaccination agenda.
00:15:42.220 He added that many of the members of the committee were last-minute appointees of the Biden administration and noted that without ousting advisors from the current group, the Trump administration would not have been able to appoint a majority of the new board until 2028.
00:16:01.580 Kennedy says the panel, as appointed by Biden, is plagued with persistent conflict of interest and had become little more than a rubber stamp for any vaccination.
00:16:13.340 Seems to me that anyone who's on a vaccination advisory committee should not be taking money from a vaccination manufacturer or provider.
00:16:22.080 Sounds to me like what the president called it during the campaign, common sense.
00:16:26.880 The advisory overhaul is just the latest move by Kennedy to institute more objective protocols and remove big pharma industry insiders from controlling the regulation of vaccinations in the United States, all since he took the helm at HHS.
00:16:42.920 Under Kennedy, HHS has stopped recommending routine COVID-19 vaccinations for healthy children and newborns and healthy pregnant women.
00:16:56.880 We are covering the L.A. riots, but nobody more knowledgeable than our upcoming guest.
00:17:03.720 Colonel Douglas MacArthur is a decorated combat veteran, a former top advisor to the Secretary of Defense.
00:17:12.840 And he has called on President Trump to enact the Insurrection Act.
00:17:18.380 I trust Colonel McGregor implicitly to be able to see what is coming down the road.
00:17:24.980 He joins us momentarily.
00:17:27.720 Thank you for tuning in to The Stone Zone, where we bring you the stone cold truth five days a week.
00:17:35.600 The inside skinny on American politics, who is doing what to whom and why.
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00:17:43.380 Whatever you do, please don't touch that dial because we want you to hear this terrific interview with Colonel Douglas MacGregor.
00:17:51.040 And that is coming right up.
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00:18:07.280 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:18:11.320 They went after a guy named Roger Stone, who's sitting in the office.
00:18:15.260 And I'll say this in front of Roger, he's no baby.
00:18:17.620 And right now he's cleaner than anybody in this place.
00:18:21.300 Now, they treated him very unfairly.
00:18:23.840 Now, get him a zone.
00:18:25.680 It's The Stone Zone.
00:18:27.740 Here's Roger Stone.
00:18:31.320 Welcome back to The Stone Zone.
00:18:33.540 Joining me now is a former U.S. Army colonel, retired, a combat veteran, former top advisor to the Secretary of Defense.
00:18:44.000 Douglas MacGregor is a, as I say, a decorated combat veteran, an author of five books, a Ph.D., and an expert in both defense and foreign policy matters.
00:18:55.340 He is the geopolitical strategic thinker that I admire the most.
00:19:00.620 He's very famous within our military because in the Battle of 73 Easting, he led the U.S. Army's largest tank attack since World War II, and also for his groundbreaking books on military transformation.
00:19:18.580 We're honored to have Colonel Douglas MacGregor with us today in The Stone Zone.
00:19:23.820 Colonel MacGregor, welcome.
00:19:26.900 Thanks, Roger.
00:19:27.980 Glad to be with you.
00:19:29.300 So, yesterday I noticed that you called on President Donald Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act in response to the anti-ice riots in Los Angeles.
00:19:39.080 Can you tell us what additional police powers the president would gain by invoking the Insurrection Act and why you believe he should do so?
00:19:50.480 Hey, thanks for asking.
00:19:52.380 This is an important question, and I thought I should be urging the president to act because I was afraid that too many other people in his inner circle would urge him to do nothing.
00:20:01.900 I'm concerned, and I think the president needs to be concerned because the Insurrection Act gives him federal power that he otherwise doesn't have.
00:20:12.080 Nowhere in the Constitution of the United States will you find the words martial law.
00:20:18.320 The president does not have the authority to establish martial law.
00:20:21.660 Some governors do, and local military commanders can, but the president does not.
00:20:26.500 The Insurrection Act that was passed in 1807 at Thomas Jefferson's urging gives him the power to federalize local militia, National Guard, local police, as well as to bring in federal troops, that is, regular Army and Marines, in the event that certain conditions seem to be met.
00:20:48.880 And those conditions involve outright contempt for authority, destruction of private property, threats to the bodily harm to not only the agents of the local government and police, but to federal officers and to the population at large.
00:21:07.560 And what we're seeing now in Los Angeles suggests that this is very, very serious, much more serious than most people realize.
00:21:14.800 If you're just tuning in, we're talking to Colonel Douglas MacArthur, McGregor, pardon me.
00:21:22.580 He is the CEO of Our Country, Our Choice.
00:21:25.060 You can find him at OurCountryOurChoice.com.
00:21:28.660 He's also written a number of excellent books on military strategy and history.
00:21:33.780 Colonel McGregor spent a year at VMI, four years at West Point, and retired with the rank of colonel.
00:21:42.180 He served in the Trump administration as a top advisor to the Secretary of Defense, and he has been outspoken in his opposition to a strike on Iran.
00:21:55.400 In fact, Colonel McGregor, your oration on that is so good.
00:21:59.200 We have played it several times here on the show.
00:22:01.460 You've called for the president to now bring back all U.S. ground troops from overseas and employ them inside America to restore the rule of law and to help execute these mask deportations.
00:22:16.160 It was on this show I recall you saying that the Army should be utilized in the deportation operation.
00:22:22.520 How do you see an operation of that size unfolding, and how many million illegals do you think we actually need to deport?
00:22:29.600 Well, the true estimates, not necessarily the ones that are locally admitted to, and certainly not by people on the Hill,
00:22:37.860 but the true estimates are that we have about 50 million people inside the United States who are illegally here.
00:22:44.220 In other words, they broke the laws in order to enter the country. 1.00
00:22:46.840 Of that number, almost 30 million came in under President Biden when he effectively opened the borders
00:22:54.720 and essentially suspended the rule of law, letting these people in without any betting or any prior examination of any kind.
00:23:03.300 Now, historically, we have been through deportations before.
00:23:07.000 In 1929, after the stock market crash, President Herbert Hoover signed an executive order that resulted in the deportation of 9 million Mexicans.
00:23:18.080 Now, why did he do that?
00:23:19.400 Because he wisely concluded that they had jobs that Americans under normal circumstances might not do.
00:23:26.600 But with the onset of the Depression, Americans would be desperate for ways to make money.
00:23:31.580 And what he didn't want was a war inside the United States between American citizens and non-citizens doing jobs Americans needed.
00:23:41.860 Franklin Roosevelt deported another 3.5 million.
00:23:45.640 Harry Truman deported another 2.2 million.
00:23:49.160 And Eisenhower ultimately deported somewhere between 1.2 and 1.4 million.
00:23:54.080 Now, in every case, these people were deported because they were not legally in the country,
00:23:59.940 but they were also deported because they held down jobs that Americans needed.
00:24:04.920 The United States Army was involved in all of those deportations to a greater or lesser extent.
00:24:11.420 Why would the United States Army, that is, the regular Army, be involved?
00:24:14.360 Because they can mobilize the transportation assets.
00:24:17.820 They can ensure the professional conduct of the deportations.
00:24:22.580 And they can protect the citizens that are being deported from each other as well as from Americans
00:24:28.080 and protect Americans from them. 0.65
00:24:30.760 So this is a natural thing for the Army to do.
00:24:33.540 And by the way, the Marines, as a regular element of the ground force, have also been involved in these things.
00:24:39.400 But when you look at the numbers that are involved, it's going to take a force the size of both the Marines and the Army to get the job done.
00:24:49.680 A brilliant thinking, in which I completely agree.
00:24:53.420 What I see here, Colonel McGregor, and I think you agree with this, is this is the precursor to a rerun of what we saw in 2020,
00:25:01.960 where these so-called riots, which are really planned, orchestrated insurrections, very well-funded, very well-planned,
00:25:11.260 will break out across the country, Chicago being after Minneapolis, Chicago and Los Angeles being two of the worst examples.
00:25:20.580 In that instance, President Trump unfortunately listened to advisors who told him to let the governors decide about the use of the National Guard.
00:25:31.000 And I think it is a decision that he regrets.
00:25:34.520 It's also clearly a decision that he's not going to make again.
00:25:39.860 I wondered if you had seen this, the advertising for the so-called No Kings protest planned for this weekend.
00:25:51.500 The No Kings protest is backed by a number of radical left organizations,
00:25:57.280 including one funded by George Soros.
00:26:01.360 Are we about to see a replay of 2020?
00:26:06.360 Yes, I think we're at the beginning of this process.
00:26:08.900 I think we're going to see this stretch through the balance of the summer and into the fall.
00:26:13.540 First of all, let's get something straight right up front.
00:26:16.120 So important that you brought this up.
00:26:17.660 We have discovered cell phones found in the possession of people that participated in the riots and the destruction of private property,
00:26:27.500 the attacks on police officers in Los Angeles.
00:26:30.040 They've traced these cell phones back to people in Bel Air, Beverly Hills and other wealthy neighborhoods all the way back to Manhattan and New York City.
00:26:41.020 In other words, we know within a reasonable distance just who is ultimately funding all of this,
00:26:50.540 because none of this would happen without copious amounts of money.
00:26:54.980 We've got people on film passing out extremely expensive biohazard masks to people,
00:27:02.500 as well as cell phones.
00:27:05.460 And also, as we saw before, as you pointed out in 2020, large numbers of bricks and stones and other things showing up.
00:27:13.940 I think before long, we'll also see weapons confiscated.
00:27:17.620 The point is that you're 100 percent right.
00:27:21.200 These are well orchestrated, well funded.
00:27:24.240 That man that Pam Bondi, the attorney general, mentioned as having been found, who was throwing bricks at police cars,
00:27:33.200 he's the tip of a proverbial iceberg.
00:27:36.420 Any number of people can be bought, put on the street and told, hey, throw rocks at the police.
00:27:42.120 That's not problematic.
00:27:43.520 The people that we should be going after are the people funding these things.
00:27:47.300 And if you apply the Insurrection Act, then you can begin to prosecute people for treason.
00:27:53.640 People who are rebelling against lawful, legitimate federal authority.
00:27:57.920 And that needs to happen.
00:27:59.660 We have to come down hard on this.
00:28:02.100 If we don't, it will metastasize and become much worse.
00:28:06.340 That's an excellent point you make, that those who had the, if the Insurrection Act is enacted, could be charged with treason if they're involved in the planning and orchestration of this.
00:28:21.320 This is something I would have to believe the FBI and Drakash Patel could very quickly get to the bottom of.
00:28:26.780 We've already seen substantial evidence just from watching the videos online.
00:28:33.120 This is the great thing about the Internet.
00:28:34.840 You can have Cory Booker telling us that the protests in California are mostly peaceful.
00:28:41.060 And then in the very next minute, you can see protesters dropping concrete, chunks of concrete, onto moving ICE vehicles in an overpass.
00:28:54.620 In one case, crashing through the windshield and injuring one of the officers.
00:28:59.520 This is an all-out insurrection.
00:29:03.680 Let me jump across the globe here for a moment, if I will, because it's another subject on which you have always been extraordinarily correct.
00:29:11.760 Russia and Ukraine have now met twice in Turkey.
00:29:16.020 The only thing that has emerged from those discussions was a large prisoner exchange.
00:29:21.940 Do you see us any closer to getting a peace deal pertaining to Russia and Ukraine?
00:29:31.580 Unfortunately, Roger, I don't.
00:29:34.500 And I think that President Trump has been sabotaged by people in the Senate and in the House, individuals who are desperate to keep this war going for any number of reasons.
00:29:45.660 A good example is this Representative McCall from Texas.
00:29:49.480 Other examples include Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal.
00:29:54.560 The President of the United States has explicitly stated his desire to have peace in Ukraine.
00:30:01.560 And these individuals have stepped forward and said, we want nothing to do with peace.
00:30:06.160 Our goal is to destroy Russia. 0.97
00:30:08.520 President Trump has made it very clear he's not interested in destroying Russia or harming Russia, nor should he be.
00:30:14.480 But I think the only solution at this point is one we discussed before, as for the president, to simply end any further aid.
00:30:22.960 He's the chief executive.
00:30:24.220 He has authority.
00:30:25.360 He can stop the aid.
00:30:26.740 And then he can direct that all American citizens, in or out of uniform, in intelligence capacities, or any capacity whatsoever in Ukraine, leave Ukraine.
00:30:37.440 When he does that, the Ukrainian regime is finished, because the Europeans can't provide the equipment, the cash or anything else to keep this going.
00:30:47.960 And that's the quickest way to end the killing, because the Russians are now stuck. 0.94
00:30:52.260 Since they're dealing with this bad man, Zelensky, who's determined to fight to the last Ukrainian, they have to fight, even if it requires them to kill the last Ukrainian. 0.54
00:31:02.940 That's something they don't want to do.
00:31:04.480 It's something we shouldn't want anybody to do.
00:31:07.180 So the president needs to, he needs to be the leader he is and simply say, that's it.
00:31:13.180 Everybody out.
00:31:14.080 This stops now.
00:31:15.100 Yeah, I suggested that if, I said if, Senators Lindsey Graham and the Vietnam War hero Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut met privately with Zelensky and urged him not to make a peace deal with Donald Trump, they would be in violation of the Logan Act.
00:31:36.020 There is no immunity for U.S. senators on that law.
00:31:39.800 Now, I didn't say they did it.
00:31:41.040 I said if they did it.
00:31:42.500 We don't know if they did it, but they certainly undermined the United States.
00:31:46.580 It's also abundantly clear that President Trump was not informed of the Ukrainian attack on the Russian airfield, in which a number of their bombers and their weapons were destroyed.
00:31:59.380 So the Ukrainian, pardon me, the Ukrainians are not operating in good faith. 1.00
00:32:04.480 If you're just tuning in, folks, we're talking to Colonel Douglas McGregor.
00:32:08.800 You can find him at our country, let's see, our country, where are we, Doug?
00:32:17.120 Anyway, we'll be right back with more of Colonel McGregor.
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00:32:41.020 Now, get in the zone. 0.94
00:32:42.960 It's the Stone Zone.
00:32:45.000 Here's Roger Stone.
00:32:46.540 And we're back in the zone with Colonel Douglas McGregor, decorated combat veteran, defense and foreign policy consultant, geopolitical thinker.
00:32:58.700 Found my notes here.
00:33:00.020 You can find him at ourcountryourchoice.com, ourcountryourchoice.com.
00:33:05.800 I recommend you go there for Doug's always brilliant analysis of the world situation.
00:33:12.780 We're talking about the Russian and Ukrainian conflict.
00:33:17.700 I was reading these chilling stories about conscriptions in Ukraine where 14-year-olds, 12-year-olds are being essentially kidnapped on the streets to be put into military service.
00:33:29.740 Are the Ukrainians running out of men?
00:33:32.280 I think they're running out of manpower because most of the manpower that would have otherwise been available has left the country.
00:33:40.900 And the other thing is that there are now gangs active inside Ukraine that are arming themselves to fight off these press gangs from the Ukrainian government.
00:33:49.900 The population of Ukraine has had it with this war.
00:33:52.560 It wants an end to it.
00:33:54.040 So we know the government is no longer legitimate.
00:33:56.880 When that sort of thing happens, it's over.
00:33:59.020 But, you know, Roger, you said something that's very important that people need to know.
00:34:03.660 Every day, the president is inundated with huge quantities of information.
00:34:09.620 Neither you nor I were there.
00:34:11.340 Neither of us could be absolutely certain what President Trump was told.
00:34:15.740 But the Central Intelligence Agency provides him with a briefing whenever he wants it, and usually on a daily basis.
00:34:21.800 It's the obligation of the director of the CIA to make known to him the intention of a covert operation in a place like Russia as a result of that Ukraine-Russia war.
00:34:34.060 I don't know what Radcliffe is doing, but that's his job.
00:34:37.940 Obviously, he failed to tell the president, this is what's being planned.
00:34:42.220 If this happens, these are the implications.
00:34:44.680 That's his job, Roger.
00:34:46.160 Well, we know on two instances.
00:34:49.400 The president himself, in an interview, learns for the first time about an assassination attempt on Putin, that they had an attack on Putin's helicopter.
00:35:01.900 We heard it from his own mouth.
00:35:03.460 He didn't know that.
00:35:04.360 He wasn't aware of that, which means he was never told that.
00:35:06.580 And then the White House put out a statement in the wake of Senator Lindsey Graham and Senator Blumenthal's sit-down with Zelensky, saying specifically that the president was not informed in advance of the unprecedented Ukrainian attack on the Russian airfields.
00:35:26.420 So those seem to me to be two failures of his own CIA.
00:35:32.680 You're absolutely right.
00:35:34.100 And, you know, from your own experience in Washington, every president since Harry Truman has had difficulties with the Central Intelligence Agency.
00:35:42.620 And you've got to have someone in the agency who reports to you, who keeps you informed.
00:35:48.240 You have to have someone looking out for your interests as president of the United States.
00:35:53.100 And that's obviously not being done.
00:35:55.840 Well, we see similar problems at the FBI.
00:35:59.420 We're now just learning that the FBI had an enormous tranche of Russian collusion, hoax documents hidden within their computer system at an inaccessible location where neither Special Counsel John Durham nor the Inspector General of the Department of Justice could get them.
00:36:21.980 Perhaps that would explain why his report was – the report of John Durham missed so many key things.
00:36:31.500 I have very high regard for Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence.
00:36:36.320 Anytime you get attacked by John Brennan, that's a badge of honor.
00:36:40.080 He said he was appalled, appalled by the intelligence professionals that she was firing.
00:36:47.460 And she was firing because they're not loyal to President Trump or to his agenda.
00:36:52.080 She also referred a number of them to the Department of Justice for prosecution for leaking.
00:36:57.180 She's kept a relatively low profile, but I think she's endeavoring to fix the problem you describe.
00:37:03.360 And I frankly think she has the gumption and the experience to do so.
00:37:08.620 I'm afraid we have to wrap it up there.
00:37:11.440 I want to thank our guest, Colonel Douglas McGregor.
00:37:14.760 You can follow him by going to OurCountryOurChoice.com, OurCountryOurChoice.com.
00:37:22.540 He always brings it, so I wanted to have him on the show.
00:37:26.080 I completely agree with your assertion regarding what the president must do.
00:37:29.940 He must enact the Insurrection Act immediately to give him the power to deal with what is coming,
00:37:36.620 a nationwide insurrection planned with the assistance, I think, of enemies, both foreign and domestic.
00:37:44.800 Thank you for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
00:37:47.380 Thanks again to Colonel McGregor for joining us.
00:37:49.920 Until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.
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