The Stone Zone is a place where you can listen to the opinions and thoughts of a well-known and influential person in order to make sense of the world around them. Today's guest is none other than Roger Stone.
00:00:54.400You are entering the Stone Zone for yet another day.
00:00:58.360We see images of cars being set on fire, ice officers being attacked, rocks, bottles, chunks of concrete, baggies full of feces and urine being hurled at ice vehicles and officers.
00:01:16.320Yesterday, they tried to close down the 101 freeway.
00:01:20.840And they are laying siege to federal buildings.
00:01:24.760President Donald Trump has ordered 2,000 National Guard troops to the scene.
00:01:32.660Governor Gavin Newsom argues that that is unconstitutional.
00:01:36.900Actually, President Eisenhower sent National Guard troops to Arkansas.
00:01:42.820It was challenged and found to be constitutional.
00:01:45.660George Wallace objected when President John Kennedy sent National Guard troops to Alabama to enforce integration, once again upheld by the Supreme Court.
00:01:59.240See, he is a guy whose political fortunes were largely in the toilet because of the quality of life issues in California, exacerbated by his terrible handling of the recent fires.
00:02:14.080Now he orchestrated this entire charade with ICE, Concho, Tom Homan.
00:02:21.660Homan never threatened to arrest the governor, Gavin Newsom.
00:02:26.920He said any public official who harbored an illegal, who interfered with the arrest of an illegal, or who otherwise assaulted an ICE officer would be arrested.
00:02:42.200That criteria does not meet Gavin Newsom, but Newsom used it to try to taunt Homan, saying, come on, big guy, arrest me.
00:02:52.760In his dreams, his arrest would only make him a hero on the radical left.
00:02:59.160I continue to predict that this insurrection is much, much larger than just Los Angeles.
00:03:07.660This is the precursor to what we saw in this country in 2020.
00:07:20.380No, actually, Trump has managed to prevail in court, although, unfortunately, he's had to appeal several times to get to a court that would overreel,
00:07:28.840hack Democrat partisan judges from issuing rulings.
00:07:33.800For example, the ruling by Jed Bosberg in the D.C. District Court that Donald Trump didn't have the authority to deport dangerous illegals.
00:14:52.600Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:14:55.740said today that he is firing all 17 members of a government panel of vaccination advisors.
00:15:02.960A clean sweep is needed to reestablish public confidence in vaccine science, Secretary Kennedy told the Wall Street Journal.
00:15:12.360Kennedy is removing all members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, or ACIP, which advises the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
00:15:23.100The group reviews vaccination data and makes recommendations that determine who is eligible for shots and whether insurers should cover them, among other things.
00:15:34.060Kennedy and his HHS will put the restoration of public trust above any pro or anti-vaccination agenda.
00:15:42.220He added that many of the members of the committee were last-minute appointees of the Biden administration and noted that without ousting advisors from the current group, the Trump administration would not have been able to appoint a majority of the new board until 2028.
00:16:01.580Kennedy says the panel, as appointed by Biden, is plagued with persistent conflict of interest and had become little more than a rubber stamp for any vaccination.
00:16:13.340Seems to me that anyone who's on a vaccination advisory committee should not be taking money from a vaccination manufacturer or provider.
00:16:22.080Sounds to me like what the president called it during the campaign, common sense.
00:16:26.880The advisory overhaul is just the latest move by Kennedy to institute more objective protocols and remove big pharma industry insiders from controlling the regulation of vaccinations in the United States, all since he took the helm at HHS.
00:16:42.920Under Kennedy, HHS has stopped recommending routine COVID-19 vaccinations for healthy children and newborns and healthy pregnant women.
00:16:56.880We are covering the L.A. riots, but nobody more knowledgeable than our upcoming guest.
00:17:03.720Colonel Douglas MacArthur is a decorated combat veteran, a former top advisor to the Secretary of Defense.
00:17:12.840And he has called on President Trump to enact the Insurrection Act.
00:17:18.380I trust Colonel McGregor implicitly to be able to see what is coming down the road.
00:18:33.540Joining me now is a former U.S. Army colonel, retired, a combat veteran, former top advisor to the Secretary of Defense.
00:18:44.000Douglas MacGregor is a, as I say, a decorated combat veteran, an author of five books, a Ph.D., and an expert in both defense and foreign policy matters.
00:18:55.340He is the geopolitical strategic thinker that I admire the most.
00:19:00.620He's very famous within our military because in the Battle of 73 Easting, he led the U.S. Army's largest tank attack since World War II, and also for his groundbreaking books on military transformation.
00:19:18.580We're honored to have Colonel Douglas MacGregor with us today in The Stone Zone.
00:19:29.300So, yesterday I noticed that you called on President Donald Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act in response to the anti-ice riots in Los Angeles.
00:19:39.080Can you tell us what additional police powers the president would gain by invoking the Insurrection Act and why you believe he should do so?
00:19:52.380This is an important question, and I thought I should be urging the president to act because I was afraid that too many other people in his inner circle would urge him to do nothing.
00:20:01.900I'm concerned, and I think the president needs to be concerned because the Insurrection Act gives him federal power that he otherwise doesn't have.
00:20:12.080Nowhere in the Constitution of the United States will you find the words martial law.
00:20:18.320The president does not have the authority to establish martial law.
00:20:21.660Some governors do, and local military commanders can, but the president does not.
00:20:26.500The Insurrection Act that was passed in 1807 at Thomas Jefferson's urging gives him the power to federalize local militia, National Guard, local police, as well as to bring in federal troops, that is, regular Army and Marines, in the event that certain conditions seem to be met.
00:20:48.880And those conditions involve outright contempt for authority, destruction of private property, threats to the bodily harm to not only the agents of the local government and police, but to federal officers and to the population at large.
00:21:07.560And what we're seeing now in Los Angeles suggests that this is very, very serious, much more serious than most people realize.
00:21:14.800If you're just tuning in, we're talking to Colonel Douglas MacArthur, McGregor, pardon me.
00:21:22.580He is the CEO of Our Country, Our Choice.
00:21:25.060You can find him at OurCountryOurChoice.com.
00:21:28.660He's also written a number of excellent books on military strategy and history.
00:21:33.780Colonel McGregor spent a year at VMI, four years at West Point, and retired with the rank of colonel.
00:21:42.180He served in the Trump administration as a top advisor to the Secretary of Defense, and he has been outspoken in his opposition to a strike on Iran.
00:21:55.400In fact, Colonel McGregor, your oration on that is so good.
00:21:59.200We have played it several times here on the show.
00:22:01.460You've called for the president to now bring back all U.S. ground troops from overseas and employ them inside America to restore the rule of law and to help execute these mask deportations.
00:22:16.160It was on this show I recall you saying that the Army should be utilized in the deportation operation.
00:22:22.520How do you see an operation of that size unfolding, and how many million illegals do you think we actually need to deport?
00:22:29.600Well, the true estimates, not necessarily the ones that are locally admitted to, and certainly not by people on the Hill,
00:22:37.860but the true estimates are that we have about 50 million people inside the United States who are illegally here.
00:22:44.220In other words, they broke the laws in order to enter the country.
00:22:46.840Of that number, almost 30 million came in under President Biden when he effectively opened the borders
00:22:54.720and essentially suspended the rule of law, letting these people in without any betting or any prior examination of any kind.
00:23:03.300Now, historically, we have been through deportations before.
00:23:07.000In 1929, after the stock market crash, President Herbert Hoover signed an executive order that resulted in the deportation of 9 million Mexicans.
00:24:30.760So this is a natural thing for the Army to do.
00:24:33.540And by the way, the Marines, as a regular element of the ground force, have also been involved in these things.
00:24:39.400But when you look at the numbers that are involved, it's going to take a force the size of both the Marines and the Army to get the job done.
00:24:49.680A brilliant thinking, in which I completely agree.
00:24:53.420What I see here, Colonel McGregor, and I think you agree with this, is this is the precursor to a rerun of what we saw in 2020,
00:25:01.960where these so-called riots, which are really planned, orchestrated insurrections, very well-funded, very well-planned,
00:25:11.260will break out across the country, Chicago being after Minneapolis, Chicago and Los Angeles being two of the worst examples.
00:25:20.580In that instance, President Trump unfortunately listened to advisors who told him to let the governors decide about the use of the National Guard.
00:25:31.000And I think it is a decision that he regrets.
00:25:34.520It's also clearly a decision that he's not going to make again.
00:25:39.860I wondered if you had seen this, the advertising for the so-called No Kings protest planned for this weekend.
00:25:51.500The No Kings protest is backed by a number of radical left organizations,
00:26:06.360Yes, I think we're at the beginning of this process.
00:26:08.900I think we're going to see this stretch through the balance of the summer and into the fall.
00:26:13.540First of all, let's get something straight right up front.
00:26:16.120So important that you brought this up.
00:26:17.660We have discovered cell phones found in the possession of people that participated in the riots and the destruction of private property,
00:26:27.500the attacks on police officers in Los Angeles.
00:26:30.040They've traced these cell phones back to people in Bel Air, Beverly Hills and other wealthy neighborhoods all the way back to Manhattan and New York City.
00:26:41.020In other words, we know within a reasonable distance just who is ultimately funding all of this,
00:26:50.540because none of this would happen without copious amounts of money.
00:26:54.980We've got people on film passing out extremely expensive biohazard masks to people,
00:28:02.100If we don't, it will metastasize and become much worse.
00:28:06.340That's an excellent point you make, that those who had the, if the Insurrection Act is enacted, could be charged with treason if they're involved in the planning and orchestration of this.
00:28:21.320This is something I would have to believe the FBI and Drakash Patel could very quickly get to the bottom of.
00:28:26.780We've already seen substantial evidence just from watching the videos online.
00:28:33.120This is the great thing about the Internet.
00:28:34.840You can have Cory Booker telling us that the protests in California are mostly peaceful.
00:28:41.060And then in the very next minute, you can see protesters dropping concrete, chunks of concrete, onto moving ICE vehicles in an overpass.
00:28:54.620In one case, crashing through the windshield and injuring one of the officers.
00:29:03.680Let me jump across the globe here for a moment, if I will, because it's another subject on which you have always been extraordinarily correct.
00:29:11.760Russia and Ukraine have now met twice in Turkey.
00:29:16.020The only thing that has emerged from those discussions was a large prisoner exchange.
00:29:21.940Do you see us any closer to getting a peace deal pertaining to Russia and Ukraine?
00:29:34.500And I think that President Trump has been sabotaged by people in the Senate and in the House, individuals who are desperate to keep this war going for any number of reasons.
00:29:45.660A good example is this Representative McCall from Texas.
00:29:49.480Other examples include Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal.
00:29:54.560The President of the United States has explicitly stated his desire to have peace in Ukraine.
00:30:01.560And these individuals have stepped forward and said, we want nothing to do with peace.
00:30:26.740And then he can direct that all American citizens, in or out of uniform, in intelligence capacities, or any capacity whatsoever in Ukraine, leave Ukraine.
00:30:37.440When he does that, the Ukrainian regime is finished, because the Europeans can't provide the equipment, the cash or anything else to keep this going.
00:30:47.960And that's the quickest way to end the killing, because the Russians are now stuck.
00:30:52.260Since they're dealing with this bad man, Zelensky, who's determined to fight to the last Ukrainian, they have to fight, even if it requires them to kill the last Ukrainian.
00:31:02.940That's something they don't want to do.
00:31:04.480It's something we shouldn't want anybody to do.
00:31:07.180So the president needs to, he needs to be the leader he is and simply say, that's it.
00:31:15.100Yeah, I suggested that if, I said if, Senators Lindsey Graham and the Vietnam War hero Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut met privately with Zelensky and urged him not to make a peace deal with Donald Trump, they would be in violation of the Logan Act.
00:31:36.020There is no immunity for U.S. senators on that law.
00:31:42.500We don't know if they did it, but they certainly undermined the United States.
00:31:46.580It's also abundantly clear that President Trump was not informed of the Ukrainian attack on the Russian airfield, in which a number of their bombers and their weapons were destroyed.
00:31:59.380So the Ukrainian, pardon me, the Ukrainians are not operating in good faith.
00:32:04.480If you're just tuning in, folks, we're talking to Colonel Douglas McGregor.
00:32:08.800You can find him at our country, let's see, our country, where are we, Doug?
00:32:17.120Anyway, we'll be right back with more of Colonel McGregor.
00:32:46.540And we're back in the zone with Colonel Douglas McGregor, decorated combat veteran, defense and foreign policy consultant, geopolitical thinker.
00:33:00.020You can find him at ourcountryourchoice.com, ourcountryourchoice.com.
00:33:05.800I recommend you go there for Doug's always brilliant analysis of the world situation.
00:33:12.780We're talking about the Russian and Ukrainian conflict.
00:33:17.700I was reading these chilling stories about conscriptions in Ukraine where 14-year-olds, 12-year-olds are being essentially kidnapped on the streets to be put into military service.
00:33:29.740Are the Ukrainians running out of men?
00:33:32.280I think they're running out of manpower because most of the manpower that would have otherwise been available has left the country.
00:33:40.900And the other thing is that there are now gangs active inside Ukraine that are arming themselves to fight off these press gangs from the Ukrainian government.
00:33:49.900The population of Ukraine has had it with this war.
00:34:11.340Neither of us could be absolutely certain what President Trump was told.
00:34:15.740But the Central Intelligence Agency provides him with a briefing whenever he wants it, and usually on a daily basis.
00:34:21.800It's the obligation of the director of the CIA to make known to him the intention of a covert operation in a place like Russia as a result of that Ukraine-Russia war.
00:34:34.060I don't know what Radcliffe is doing, but that's his job.
00:34:37.940Obviously, he failed to tell the president, this is what's being planned.
00:34:42.220If this happens, these are the implications.
00:34:49.400The president himself, in an interview, learns for the first time about an assassination attempt on Putin, that they had an attack on Putin's helicopter.
00:35:04.360He wasn't aware of that, which means he was never told that.
00:35:06.580And then the White House put out a statement in the wake of Senator Lindsey Graham and Senator Blumenthal's sit-down with Zelensky, saying specifically that the president was not informed in advance of the unprecedented Ukrainian attack on the Russian airfields.
00:35:26.420So those seem to me to be two failures of his own CIA.
00:35:34.100And, you know, from your own experience in Washington, every president since Harry Truman has had difficulties with the Central Intelligence Agency.
00:35:42.620And you've got to have someone in the agency who reports to you, who keeps you informed.
00:35:48.240You have to have someone looking out for your interests as president of the United States.
00:35:55.840Well, we see similar problems at the FBI.
00:35:59.420We're now just learning that the FBI had an enormous tranche of Russian collusion, hoax documents hidden within their computer system at an inaccessible location where neither Special Counsel John Durham nor the Inspector General of the Department of Justice could get them.
00:36:21.980Perhaps that would explain why his report was – the report of John Durham missed so many key things.
00:36:31.500I have very high regard for Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence.
00:36:36.320Anytime you get attacked by John Brennan, that's a badge of honor.
00:36:40.080He said he was appalled, appalled by the intelligence professionals that she was firing.
00:36:47.460And she was firing because they're not loyal to President Trump or to his agenda.
00:36:52.080She also referred a number of them to the Department of Justice for prosecution for leaking.
00:36:57.180She's kept a relatively low profile, but I think she's endeavoring to fix the problem you describe.
00:37:03.360And I frankly think she has the gumption and the experience to do so.
00:37:08.620I'm afraid we have to wrap it up there.
00:37:11.440I want to thank our guest, Colonel Douglas McGregor.
00:37:14.760You can follow him by going to OurCountryOurChoice.com, OurCountryOurChoice.com.
00:37:22.540He always brings it, so I wanted to have him on the show.
00:37:26.080I completely agree with your assertion regarding what the president must do.
00:37:29.940He must enact the Insurrection Act immediately to give him the power to deal with what is coming,
00:37:36.620a nationwide insurrection planned with the assistance, I think, of enemies, both foreign and domestic.
00:37:44.800Thank you for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
00:37:47.380Thanks again to Colonel McGregor for joining us.
00:37:49.920Until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.
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