The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The Stone Zone | 06-24-25


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Summary

While President Trump fights to hold together a fragile ceasefire between Israel and Iran, it seems like fighting has broken out in the MAGA movement. Mark Levin is attacking Steve Bannon, Laura Loomer is attacking Tulsi Gabbard, and Tucker Carlson is returning fire.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:00:06.240 Welcome. You are now entering the Stone Zone, and I'm your genial host, Roger Stone.
00:00:14.160 Well, while President Donald Trump fights to hold together a fragile ceasefire between Israel and Iran,
00:00:21.720 it seems like fighting has broken out in the MAGA movement.
00:00:27.820 Mark Levin is attacking Steve Bannon and Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:00:34.940 Laura Loomer is attacking Tulsi Gabbard and Tucker Carlson.
00:00:39.180 Tucker Carlson is returning fire.
00:00:42.700 Matt Gaetz is attacking Mark Levin.
00:00:46.160 In all honesty, the time for this discussion, and I would have lowered the decibels,
00:00:52.620 was before the president made his decision.
00:00:56.460 Now, as a 50-year veteran of American politics, as a veteran of 13 national presidential campaigns,
00:01:05.880 I say it's time to rally around the commander-in-chief.
00:01:11.240 Now, I'm an anti-interventionist Republican.
00:01:15.720 I'm certainly no fan of the neocons and their record of endless war.
00:01:21.580 I'm the guy who wrote the Bush crime family.
00:01:25.140 I'm no fan of the war in Iraq.
00:01:28.720 But the difference between what President Trump has done and that war is like day and night.
00:01:34.340 First of all, in Iraq, we never had any plausible reason.
00:01:39.260 Our inherent national interests were not clear.
00:01:41.880 We were told two lies.
00:01:44.620 Vice President Dick Cheney told us that the regime in Iraq had yellow cake uranium,
00:01:52.540 with which they were going to build nuclear bombs.
00:01:55.820 That was a lie.
00:01:57.400 And he continued to imply that the Iraqis were involved in the attack on America on 9-11.
00:02:04.820 A second lie, $500 million later and 18 years, and that was a costly mistake made by people who were neocons.
00:02:17.680 This has been a more surgical operation.
00:02:21.520 There are no boots on the ground and there isn't going to be.
00:02:24.960 An end is in sight.
00:02:26.800 And even in the response in which the Iranians attacked a U.S. base in Qatar, this was all for show.
00:02:35.600 They called the leadership of Qatar to tell them to tell the Americans to clear everybody out of the base
00:02:41.800 so that nobody was injured, but it didn't really matter because all of their incoming missiles were intercepted.
00:02:49.300 So it appears to me to be for appearances.
00:02:52.500 But I would warn everybody in the MAGA movement that we have a midterm election coming up
00:03:00.680 and fighting among ourselves at a time when we only have a three-seat margin in the House is folly.
00:03:08.980 In the meantime, Al Green, not the singer, the congressman from Texas, you remember him,
00:03:14.680 he's the guy who had to be removed from the chamber of Congress because he kept yelling at the president
00:03:21.560 and wildly swinging his cane during the State of the Union address.
00:03:26.760 He has now filed articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump.
00:03:32.400 He argues incorrectly that the decision by President Trump to surgically strike the three nuclear weapons development sites
00:03:42.880 in Iran violates international law.
00:03:46.100 Interestingly enough, the head of NATO, hardly a pro-Trump organization, says that that's not accurate.
00:03:54.540 I haven't heard from the U.N. yet, but I would remind everybody in the MAGA camp
00:04:01.340 that now is the time to support this president rather than bickering amongst ourselves.
00:04:07.480 I'm pretty pugnacious, but I'm not attacking anybody.
00:04:11.320 In fact, my criticism of Ted Cruz was written and published before the president made a decision on Sunday
00:04:18.320 to deliver this devastating blow against the Iranians.
00:04:24.040 And he was very clear.
00:04:25.440 He said 15 times, I checked it, during the campaign that it would not be acceptable for Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
00:04:34.980 This is a president who means what he says and says what he means.
00:04:40.360 In the meantime, President Trump has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize over the Iran-Israel conflict.
00:04:47.720 A House lawmaker has nominated President Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize
00:04:51.760 after he brokered the ceasefire deal between Israel and Iran.
00:04:57.340 Congressman Buddy Carter, Republican of Georgia, wrote to the Nobel Peace Prize Committee
00:05:02.500 declaring that Trump had, quote, an extraordinary and historic role in having ended the armed conflict
00:05:09.620 between Israel and Iran, preventing the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism
00:05:15.400 from obtaining the most lethal weapon on the planet.
00:05:19.580 Trump declared the 12-day war was ending late yesterday afternoon
00:05:25.840 with a ceasefire that was meant to go into effect overnight today.
00:05:31.040 It ends just over a week after Israel first launched their preemptive strike against Iran,
00:05:37.620 arguing that Tehran was dangerously close to obtaining a nuclear weapon.
00:05:43.240 The two countries subsequently traded rocket fire over the following days and over the weekend,
00:05:50.080 but the U.N. launched its own devastating airstrikes on three of Iran's key nuclear facilities on Sunday.
00:05:59.160 Iran, as I said previously, responded by shooting rockets at a U.S. air base in Qatar on Monday,
00:06:05.900 but not without giving advance notice to the United States and to the Qatari officials.
00:06:12.040 No injuries were reported in that attack.
00:06:14.700 So President Trump's influence was instrumental in forging a swift agreement that many believed was actually impossible.
00:06:23.960 President Trump also took bold, decisive action to halt Iran's nuclear ambitions
00:06:29.320 and ensure that the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism remained incapable of acquiring a nuclear weapon.
00:06:38.120 This is precisely what Congressman Carter said in his letter to the Nobel Peace Prize Committee.
00:06:44.960 Now, he said that Trump's leadership through the crisis exemplifies the very ideals that the Nobel Peace Prize seeks to recognize,
00:06:54.160 the pursuit of peace, the prevention of war, and the advancement of international harmony.
00:07:00.180 In a region plagued by historical animosity and political volatility, such a breakthrough demands both courage and clarity.
00:07:09.640 President Trump has, I think, demonstrated both, offering the world a rare glimpse of hope.
00:07:16.600 For all of these reasons, I really hope that the elitists on the Nobel Peace Prize Committee
00:07:23.060 will give Donald J. Trump, the 47th President of the United States, the Nobel Peace Prize.
00:07:29.400 But folks, do not hold your breath.
00:07:32.620 This is not the first time that Trump has been nominated for the prize, although he's never been awarded the prize.
00:07:39.360 Congressman Daryl Issa, Republic of California, tapped Trump for the prize just earlier this year,
00:07:46.460 arguing that his 2024 electoral victory had an astonishingly effective impact on peace in the world.
00:07:54.300 On True Social, President Trump himself wrote,
00:07:57.520 both Israel and Iran wanted to stop the war equally.
00:08:01.880 It was my great honor to destroy all nuclear facilities and capabilities and then stop this war.
00:08:09.860 Yesterday, in announcing the ceasefire, Trump wrote,
00:08:13.700 So he let them take shots at each other, I guess, for the theatrics, for the optics.
00:08:40.480 But that was only to last for 12 hours, at which point the war can be considered ended, to the president's words.
00:08:49.540 Officially, Iran will start the ceasefire and then, upon the 12th hour, Israel will start the ceasefire.
00:08:56.900 And upon the 24th hour, an official end to the 12-day war will be saluted by the world.
00:09:04.060 During each ceasefire, the other side will remain peaceful and respectful.
00:09:10.480 On the assumption that everything works as it should, which it will, the president said,
00:09:17.220 I would like to congratulate both countries, Israel and Iran,
00:09:22.040 for having the stamina, courage and intelligence to end what should have been called the 12-day war.
00:09:30.040 Now, this is a war that could have gone on for years and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn't.
00:09:37.340 And now, I think, thanks to the leadership of Donald Trump, it never will.
00:09:41.720 The president went on to say, God bless Israel, God bless Iran, God bless the Middle East,
00:09:46.980 God bless the United States of America.
00:09:49.500 And Donald J. Trump, president of the United States of America, is the way he signed it.
00:09:55.560 In another post later in the day, Trump wrote,
00:09:59.360 Now that we have peace abroad, we must finish the job here at home by passing the big, beautiful bill
00:10:06.880 and getting the bill to my desk as soon as possible.
00:10:11.240 It will be a historic precedent for the great people of the United States of America
00:10:16.260 as we begin the celebration of our country's 250th birthday.
00:10:21.980 We're finally entering our golden age, which will bring unprecedented safety, security and prosperity
00:10:28.520 for all of our citizens.
00:10:30.460 So, to my friends in the Senate, the president wrote,
00:10:33.900 Lock yourself in the room if you must.
00:10:36.200 Don't go home and get the deal done this week.
00:10:40.280 Work with the House so they can pick it up and pass it immediately.
00:10:44.300 So, please, no one should go on vacation until it's done.
00:10:49.300 Everyone, most importantly the American people, will be much better off thanks to our work together.
00:10:55.920 Let's make America great again.
00:10:58.640 In the meantime, President Trump has dared AOC, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York,
00:11:08.080 to try to impeach him.
00:11:09.780 She's, of course, one of the liberal members of the squad.
00:11:14.580 And she has talked about the president's impeachment over the U.S. strikes on Iranians' nuclear facilities.
00:11:22.280 On True Social, Trump wrote,
00:11:24.040 The reason for her ranting is all of the victories for the United States that have happened under the Trump administration.
00:11:46.480 The Democrats aren't used to winning, and she can't stand the concept of our country being successful again.
00:11:53.780 When we examine her test scores, we will find out that she's not qualified for office,
00:11:59.280 but nevertheless far more qualified than, say, Jasmine Crockett, who is a seriously low IQ individual.
00:12:07.960 Or more qualified than Ilhan Omar, who does nothing but complain about our country,
00:12:14.420 yet the failed country she comes from doesn't have a government, is drenched in crime and poverty,
00:12:20.800 and is rated as one of the worst in the world, if it's rated at all.
00:12:26.460 How dare the mouse, as he calls her, tell us how to run the United States of America?
00:12:31.560 We're now coming back from the radical left experiment with Sleepy Joe, Kamala, and the autopad in charge.
00:12:39.280 What a disaster it was.
00:12:41.780 AOC should be forced to take the cognitive test that I just completed at Walter Reed Medical Center as part of my physical.
00:12:50.140 As the doctor in charge says, President Trump aced it, meaning I got every answer right.
00:12:55.400 Instead of the constant complaining, AOC should go back home to Queens, where I also was brought up,
00:13:01.980 straightening out her filthy, disgusting, crime-ridden neighborhood.
00:13:05.580 You're listening to The Stone Zone.
00:13:07.040 I'm Roger Stone, and we'll be right back.
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00:13:50.800 So, while ICE arrests and deportations have grabbed all the headlines,
00:13:56.860 as I said, President Trump is running a separate but complementary voluntary mass deportation program,
00:14:03.720 one that encourages people who are here illegally to go home voluntarily.
00:14:09.220 And if the initial reports are correct,
00:14:11.520 that plan is more successful than anyone could ever have imagined.
00:14:15.580 Based on government data, the Center for Immigration Studies has conservatively estimated
00:14:22.280 there are about 15.4 million illegal aliens in the United States.
00:14:28.040 And that is a 50% increase over the four tumultuous years of the Biden administration.
00:14:34.280 That's no surprise, really, given how Biden and his Department of Homeland Security,
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00:14:48.880 Trump, of course, wrote a wave of concerns about the costs and impact of these illegals
00:14:55.360 on the schools, hospitals, housing, and essential government services
00:14:59.860 in cities and towns across the United States.
00:15:02.700 Also, talking about the crime and drug epidemic that the open borders policy of the Biden administration caused.
00:15:11.680 So, now that he's back in the Oval Office, he and border czar Tom Homan,
00:15:17.280 who I know quite well and is quite a tough customer,
00:15:20.680 are driving the unauthorized population down
00:15:23.560 and restoring credibility to our immigration system.
00:15:27.460 So, they've implemented a two-track plan to tackle this onerous task.
00:15:32.700 One of those tracks relies on arrests and deportations of aliens unlawfully here,
00:15:38.500 which at the outset was focused principally on people with criminal records,
00:15:44.840 people who were convicted in their home countries or here of violence or other crimes.
00:15:51.820 But the other track is much more subtle and also much less expensive for the taxpayers
00:15:58.120 and therefore, arguably, much more effective,
00:16:01.920 encouraging illegal immigrants to self-support.
00:16:05.920 It began with an Inauguration Day Trump directive requiring the Department of Homeland Security
00:16:12.200 to ensure all aliens present in the United States, legal and otherwise,
00:16:16.800 have to register with the federal government and to prosecute those who did not comply.
00:16:24.020 By late February, the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security
00:16:27.820 had implemented that registration program.
00:16:30.820 Then, DHS launched the multimillion-dollar ad campaign warning illegals not to enter the country
00:16:38.540 and, alternatively, to leave voluntarily now and leaving open the possibility to return legally,
00:16:45.980 get their citizenship, and enjoy the freedom that America can provide.
00:16:52.020 This is typical of the outside-the-box thinking of President Donald Trump,
00:16:58.780 who, as I say, is struggling to hold together a fragile ceasefire in the Middle East.
00:17:03.780 Coming up next, retired Colonel Rob Maness, a 17, pardon me, a 37-year veteran of the Armed Services,
00:17:13.900 is going to talk to us about that ceasefire and what the prospects are for peace in the next coming period.
00:17:21.420 I have a lot of questions because this seemed to happen so quickly.
00:17:26.460 Military experts often disagree.
00:17:28.940 I cannot wait to get Rob Maness' view on it.
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00:18:47.020 And we're back in the Stone Zone.
00:18:51.540 Joining me now,
00:18:53.040 retired Colonel Rob Manis.
00:18:55.340 Rob Manis has a lifelong record.
00:18:58.840 He provided service to his country,
00:19:02.320 actually signing up in the U.S. Air Force
00:19:05.040 as a 17-year-old high school senior
00:19:08.540 and rising from an enlisted man
00:19:11.680 all the way to be a colonel.
00:19:13.800 He is someone that I go to for his geopolitical
00:19:17.760 and military strategic thinking.
00:19:20.400 Someone who understands war incredibly.
00:19:24.080 And we're very pleased to have him.
00:19:26.540 Colonel Manis, welcome to the Stone Zone.
00:19:31.120 Hi, Roger.
00:19:32.260 Thanks for having me back on.
00:19:33.520 So, this has happened so quickly
00:19:37.900 in this historic move.
00:19:40.040 President Trump not only launched this surgical strike on Sunday
00:19:45.440 on the three nuclear facilities in Iran.
00:19:50.580 The Iranians immediately said
00:19:52.680 that he did no real damage,
00:19:54.480 that they had actually moved
00:19:56.240 the development of their nuclear weapons program elsewhere.
00:20:00.560 Did this have any credibility with you at all?
00:20:06.660 Well, we have seen some open-source satellite imagery
00:20:10.020 that is really timely
00:20:15.080 just before the strikes within a couple of days
00:20:18.260 that showed trucks at the four-hour facility.
00:20:21.740 I haven't seen any at the other facilities, though.
00:20:23.740 So, it's likely they probably tried to move some of their stuff.
00:20:27.100 Did they get it all?
00:20:27.860 Well, I doubt it.
00:20:28.540 It's a lot of equipment that they have in there,
00:20:30.420 from what I understand.
00:20:32.320 But to say that there was no damage
00:20:35.340 is just really a dumb move
00:20:37.960 because we have post-strike satellite imagery
00:20:41.000 from American military satellites,
00:20:43.540 which is very good.
00:20:45.540 And I counted six penetration holes
00:20:49.180 from GBU-57,
00:20:51.360 so the 30,000-pound bunker buster bombs, Roger.
00:20:54.740 And that means there were 12 put into that facility.
00:20:58.920 It will be...
00:20:59.920 Now, we have to wait on the official bomb damage assessment
00:21:02.700 from the intelligence folks
00:21:04.800 that are doing various types of techniques
00:21:07.480 to do the assessment of how much damage
00:21:10.440 was really done to that facility.
00:21:12.380 But if there are 12, 30,000-pound weapons
00:21:15.780 that detonated inside that facility,
00:21:18.240 I doubt there's much left that's usable in there
00:21:22.420 or if it's even interable by human beings at this point.
00:21:26.960 So, you know, when the president used the term obliterated,
00:21:30.640 I would assess that it's been obliterated.
00:21:34.480 But, you know, we're not going to know for sure
00:21:36.400 until all of the BEAs finished.
00:21:38.440 And the question about did they get anything out,
00:21:41.840 I'm sure that our military and intelligence agencies
00:21:46.480 and so are our allies, I'm sure,
00:21:48.460 the Israelis, who are very good at this too,
00:21:51.580 are tracking on and tracking that stuff down
00:21:55.020 if they think that it's possible.
00:21:57.980 Well, what surprised me was the extraordinary OPSEC,
00:22:02.700 Operation Secrecy,
00:22:03.940 in a town in which everything, everything leaks
00:22:08.200 and in which President Trump, I think,
00:22:10.380 had a great head fake in which he said,
00:22:12.360 well, I'm going to make a decision in two weeks
00:22:15.120 only to strike 24 hours later.
00:22:18.520 That in itself was exceptional.
00:22:21.240 Never seen that before.
00:22:22.520 Have you?
00:22:24.380 No.
00:22:25.100 Well, I've seen it before,
00:22:26.800 but not by the president of the United States.
00:22:29.620 You know, they usually try to have
00:22:31.680 that individual appear to be most on the up and up.
00:22:36.260 And he is credible.
00:22:38.220 When he said it, he was credible.
00:22:40.400 At first, I was like, wow,
00:22:41.380 he's going to give them two more weeks.
00:22:42.680 He's really trying to give diplomacy a chance,
00:22:45.080 which he really is, too.
00:22:46.340 When I say that, I sincerely mean
00:22:48.000 President Trump's heart is in the right place.
00:22:50.040 He is a president.
00:22:51.200 He wants peace.
00:22:52.120 He wants to end these.
00:22:53.380 But the deception operation
00:22:56.520 to achieve the tactical surprise that we did, Roger,
00:22:59.680 that is the most effective deception operation
00:23:02.800 in American combat history
00:23:05.440 that I've ever, ever seen in my lifetime, anyway.
00:23:09.500 It was incredible.
00:23:11.780 The other thing that was incredible
00:23:13.260 is that the B-2 fleet of aircraft
00:23:15.340 is only 19 airplanes.
00:23:16.860 And on any given day,
00:23:18.880 only about 46 to 43 to 56% of those airplanes
00:23:24.880 are what we call fully mission capable,
00:23:27.200 which are capable of flying a combat mission
00:23:29.520 and returning with the most probability.
00:23:33.160 And they got seven of those 19 aircraft
00:23:35.440 over the target, undetected.
00:23:38.660 They hit the target
00:23:39.720 as exactly the way they were asked to do it
00:23:42.860 with the weapons they were asked to do it with,
00:23:45.320 all three targets, anyway.
00:23:47.680 And they left without being detected.
00:23:50.600 Usually when bombs start going off,
00:23:52.920 somebody figures out where the aircraft are,
00:23:55.500 if there are bombers or fighters overhead,
00:23:57.840 and they start at least firing dumb artillery rounds
00:24:00.680 up in the air to try to hit something.
00:24:02.500 Not even that happened, from what I understand.
00:24:05.060 And then you put the Tomahawk land attack missiles
00:24:08.480 that were fired off the submarines
00:24:10.000 two hours before the airplanes got there,
00:24:12.120 striking the third target at Ishtrahan
00:24:14.940 after the aircraft left.
00:24:16.760 That's an incredible air campaign operation
00:24:19.820 that our Hatsop's got to go
00:24:21.840 to the maintenance personnel
00:24:23.420 and the bomber air crews
00:24:25.200 and all of the air crews of the 125 aircraft.
00:24:28.460 And then, of course,
00:24:29.100 the Israeli Air Forces and Defense Forces
00:24:31.620 did a phenomenal job
00:24:33.820 taking down the integrated air defense system
00:24:36.360 that was a Russian system.
00:24:38.160 So the Russians should be feeling pretty bad
00:24:41.580 and their clients that buy that system
00:24:43.360 are probably looking at them going,
00:24:44.860 hey, your stuff doesn't work.
00:24:47.180 So as you know, President Trump's now called on Iran
00:24:50.480 and Israel for this ceasefire.
00:24:53.920 There have been instances already
00:24:56.180 of both of them breaking the ceasefire.
00:24:59.660 What do you think the chances are
00:25:01.440 that President Trump can keep everybody
00:25:03.860 in these two warring states in line?
00:25:06.300 I think he's the only president
00:25:07.900 of the United States in our history
00:25:09.180 that I would place a bet.
00:25:10.700 I'm not a betting person.
00:25:12.060 You can ask the guys I used to go to Red Flag
00:25:13.980 in Las Vegas with.
00:25:14.980 I didn't bet.
00:25:15.640 I watched them, their money.
00:25:17.420 But I would bet on the president
00:25:19.020 to be able to get this to firm up
00:25:22.220 and to make it something permanent.
00:25:27.180 And, you know, the Israelis,
00:25:29.040 they asked us to come in,
00:25:30.820 begged us, really.
00:25:32.400 So we did.
00:25:33.800 And the president negotiates a ceasefire.
00:25:36.540 The one thing that happened there
00:25:38.080 is the wheel of war turned
00:25:39.480 and the president of the United States
00:25:40.840 became the commander-in-chief
00:25:42.260 of all allied countries and forces.
00:25:45.240 And Prime Minister Netanyahu
00:25:46.440 needs to be paying attention
00:25:48.480 to what is now commander-in-chief
00:25:50.380 is asking to be done
00:25:52.480 because they're working for us now.
00:25:55.160 Yeah, I made this point earlier in the show.
00:25:57.840 I would like to see people in MAGA world,
00:26:00.300 in Trump world,
00:26:01.140 stop bickering.
00:26:02.460 The decision's been made.
00:26:04.160 Now, in my opinion,
00:26:05.180 it's a time to rally around
00:26:06.680 the commander-in-chief.
00:26:08.680 He has access to intelligence
00:26:10.780 the average American does not have,
00:26:13.400 that the average American pundit
00:26:15.680 does not have.
00:26:17.260 It was fine to have a debate
00:26:19.220 prior to his making a national decision.
00:26:24.380 This has to be a difficult decision
00:26:26.540 for any president,
00:26:27.900 but the time to have that debate
00:26:30.160 was last week.
00:26:31.040 Second-guessing the president,
00:26:33.340 I think,
00:26:33.960 is very damaging to the movement,
00:26:38.020 and I think it disrespects
00:26:40.540 the greatest president in my lifetime.
00:26:43.520 I guess my greatest concern
00:26:45.960 is the possibility of sleeper cells.
00:26:49.740 Border Patrol has recently arrested
00:26:51.960 a substantial number of fighting-age
00:26:55.020 Iranian nationals near our border.
00:26:57.940 How concerned are you about
00:27:00.300 potential Iranian or Islamic sleeper cells
00:27:04.560 here in America?
00:27:05.840 I'm very concerned, Roger.
00:27:07.460 And on your point about supporting the mission,
00:27:11.160 now that the commander-in-chief's
00:27:12.600 made his decision,
00:27:13.340 that's what we do,
00:27:14.300 especially in the national security world.
00:27:15.960 And I said this on air several times
00:27:19.360 as we were talking about
00:27:20.260 to the front up of there.
00:27:21.320 Once the boss makes the decision,
00:27:23.140 it's our job to salute smartly
00:27:24.840 and get on and support the mission
00:27:26.380 and help get it done.
00:27:28.780 But the Iranians,
00:27:30.220 I'm very concerned about that
00:27:31.820 because over 1,500 Iranians
00:27:33.720 that we know about
00:27:34.700 were caught by the Biden administration,
00:27:37.100 and they released over 450 of those Iranians
00:27:40.560 back into the country.
00:27:42.040 And that's not counting
00:27:43.000 the Chinese military-age mills,
00:27:44.700 that we know there's a communist
00:27:46.060 and Islamist alliance
00:27:47.800 that works at the working level all the time.
00:27:51.580 So they probably have support in that regard.
00:27:54.500 I live in South Mississippi,
00:27:55.820 and the FBI arrested 11 of Iranians
00:27:59.940 just today or late last night,
00:28:02.380 and one of them was arrested
00:28:04.060 in my home state
00:28:05.540 and one in Alabama.
00:28:06.820 So this is a national issue.
00:28:08.960 People need to be exercising
00:28:10.400 their Second Amendment rights responsibly
00:28:12.520 and be ready and prepared for anything.
00:28:16.400 Keep your head on a swivel
00:28:17.600 and pay attention to what's going on
00:28:19.300 because more than likely,
00:28:20.360 when they strike,
00:28:21.660 they're going to strike at a soft target
00:28:23.520 where there's very little security
00:28:25.500 or law enforcement, if any at all,
00:28:27.700 and it may come to a citizen
00:28:29.060 to be able to defend themselves,
00:28:31.260 we should do that.
00:28:32.240 And it's our responsibility and duty
00:28:33.980 to do that under the Constitution
00:28:36.040 of the United States.
00:28:37.680 Yeah, I would remind you
00:28:39.280 that under Joe Biden,
00:28:40.780 we had perhaps the greatest
00:28:43.460 single spy penetration
00:28:45.920 of our national security apparatus
00:28:48.520 since Alger Hiss.
00:28:50.280 A man named Robert Malley,
00:28:52.580 working at the State Department,
00:28:54.200 was and is an Iranian spy.
00:28:59.400 His associates,
00:29:00.800 a woman named Tabatani,
00:29:02.300 I believe it is,
00:29:03.480 they suspended his security clearance,
00:29:06.860 but that's it.
00:29:07.820 He's never been prosecuted.
00:29:09.460 They've never told us what it was.
00:29:12.720 We do know that his associates,
00:29:15.220 within 24 hours of the Israelis
00:29:18.280 letting us know
00:29:20.500 of some of their plans,
00:29:22.020 that that intelligence
00:29:23.480 was passed on to the Iraqis.
00:29:25.880 This is a stunning spy scandal,
00:29:29.240 and some of these people
00:29:30.900 still have their security clearances.
00:29:34.020 It is really beyond belief.
00:29:36.900 Oh, yes, sir.
00:29:38.140 And, you know, Malley's associate,
00:29:39.960 I believe she was made
00:29:41.600 the executive assistant
00:29:43.360 to the Assistant Secretary of Defense
00:29:46.240 for Special Operations
00:29:47.560 and Counterterrorism,
00:29:48.840 if I remember correctly.
00:29:50.400 And even when the president took office,
00:29:53.520 President Trump took office,
00:29:54.860 she was still in that position,
00:29:57.040 and I don't know what the status of that is,
00:30:00.480 but she should not be anywhere near
00:30:02.480 anything in the Department of Defense,
00:30:05.040 because you're right,
00:30:06.880 that was a huge infiltration,
00:30:10.000 and I'm sure caused grave damage
00:30:13.220 to the United States of America.
00:30:14.820 You've written and spoken
00:30:16.980 quite a bit about the dangers
00:30:19.140 of the Chinese Communist Party
00:30:20.920 and China as our greatest adversary,
00:30:24.700 practicing unrestricted warfare
00:30:26.540 since 2019,
00:30:28.460 buying up land, ranch land, farmland,
00:30:31.560 other valuable assets,
00:30:33.880 infiltrating academia,
00:30:36.460 operating secret bio labs,
00:30:39.380 flying drones over our shipyards.
00:30:41.700 Do you still believe that China
00:30:44.680 is our greatest single national threat?
00:30:47.880 And if so,
00:30:48.900 how would you describe China's response
00:30:52.080 to what has just happened
00:30:53.360 to their client state, Iran?
00:30:56.540 I do believe that China
00:30:57.680 is still our greatest threat,
00:31:00.000 and one of the reasons
00:31:01.300 why I supported President Trump
00:31:02.960 is that he agrees with me,
00:31:04.880 and he's appointing a team
00:31:06.300 and getting it in place
00:31:07.740 that is working fervently
00:31:10.320 to correct our vision
00:31:12.940 and our focus
00:31:14.540 so that we're focused
00:31:16.060 on the Chinese Communist Party
00:31:17.620 appropriately,
00:31:18.660 and our allies are focused
00:31:20.060 on their own problems more,
00:31:21.780 as you know,
00:31:22.540 the problems with NATO and Europe,
00:31:24.400 and even now in the Middle East,
00:31:27.620 unfortunately,
00:31:28.460 we had to get involved in this.
00:31:29.840 As far as China's response
00:31:31.560 to their client state,
00:31:33.360 I think the president,
00:31:35.160 the man that wrote
00:31:36.680 the art of the deal,
00:31:37.760 I have to keep reminding people
00:31:39.320 that this man wrote
00:31:40.160 the art of the deal, folks,
00:31:41.720 he indicated in a tweet,
00:31:43.540 I think it was late last night,
00:31:45.380 that he might have made a deal
00:31:48.020 with the Chinese
00:31:49.020 about the oil
00:31:50.420 that they buy from Iran,
00:31:52.640 and that may be keeping them quiet.
00:31:55.480 I haven't seen much
00:31:57.720 since they made
00:31:58.800 their initial statements,
00:32:00.100 not really condemning it,
00:32:02.880 but, you know,
00:32:04.120 in strong terms,
00:32:05.160 but doing that,
00:32:06.240 and if the president
00:32:07.900 has figured out a way
00:32:09.260 to make a deal with them
00:32:11.360 about getting the oil,
00:32:12.960 continuing to get the oil
00:32:14.080 from the Iranians
00:32:15.480 that they have always done,
00:32:17.000 and that would be
00:32:17.460 the main driver
00:32:18.580 behind them taking
00:32:19.560 any action in that conflict,
00:32:22.220 or trying to take Taiwan
00:32:24.840 by violence
00:32:27.280 while we're distracted by that,
00:32:30.720 that economic carrot,
00:32:34.320 so to speak,
00:32:35.340 is the thing
00:32:36.480 that the president,
00:32:37.620 President Trump,
00:32:38.420 from what I've seen of him,
00:32:39.400 would try to use,
00:32:40.400 and so I'm not surprised
00:32:41.640 that he's done that,
00:32:42.560 and I think he's
00:32:43.180 successfully done that,
00:32:44.720 and if the ceasefire
00:32:45.760 can continue to hold,
00:32:47.500 and we can get the Iranians
00:32:49.960 to give up whatever
00:32:51.960 may be left
00:32:52.880 of their nuclear capabilities,
00:32:55.300 if we think there's any there,
00:32:57.160 and stop them
00:32:59.520 from using their proxies
00:33:01.040 and using their own weapons
00:33:02.660 from firing on Israel,
00:33:04.580 then the Chinese
00:33:05.520 will probably fall in line
00:33:07.500 and make our job
00:33:08.380 in the Middle East
00:33:09.380 of not totally disengaging,
00:33:12.480 but making it a lower priority
00:33:14.780 and focusing on the Indo-Pacific,
00:33:16.600 which we have to do
00:33:17.560 because of China's behavior.
00:33:19.960 And we are in great peril
00:33:22.040 by having all those
00:33:22.900 Chinese military-age males
00:33:24.380 inside the country,
00:33:25.900 plus the 270,000 students
00:33:28.880 that are here on visas,
00:33:30.380 plus they've bought
00:33:31.020 all that land,
00:33:31.800 and that land is,
00:33:32.600 not surprisingly,
00:33:34.400 purchased near our
00:33:35.480 strategic military installation,
00:33:38.320 so we have much work to do
00:33:40.480 to make sure
00:33:41.400 that we're internally secure
00:33:42.960 and focused externally
00:33:45.420 on the right threat,
00:33:46.700 and the biggest threat
00:33:47.420 is still the Chinese
00:33:48.380 Communist Party.
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00:34:40.380 And we're back in the Stone Zone.
00:34:43.640 We're talking about
00:34:44.720 the historic ceasefire
00:34:47.000 that President Donald Trump
00:34:48.700 seems to have pulled together
00:34:49.880 between the Iranians
00:34:51.880 and Israel
00:34:53.020 in the immediate aftermath
00:34:54.860 of this historic surgical strike
00:34:58.300 against three nuclear weapons
00:35:02.180 development facilities in Iran.
00:35:06.460 I'm still stunned
00:35:07.840 at how quickly this has all played out.
00:35:10.980 And Colonel Maness,
00:35:11.820 I guess I would point out
00:35:12.980 that even in the immediate aftermath
00:35:15.500 of the attack,
00:35:17.080 the Secretary of State,
00:35:18.120 Marco Rubio,
00:35:19.160 who I think is really emerging
00:35:20.640 as one of the major stars
00:35:22.480 of this administration
00:35:23.800 and the president
00:35:24.820 were immediately calling
00:35:26.580 on the Iranians
00:35:27.640 to return to the table,
00:35:29.720 to return to peace talks,
00:35:32.040 which makes him very different
00:35:33.880 than the neocons
00:35:35.380 who held those positions
00:35:37.320 before him.
00:35:38.780 I think we have
00:35:39.880 a historic opportunity here.
00:35:42.540 Donald Trump
00:35:43.060 is a different kind of cat,
00:35:44.980 and I think the world
00:35:46.280 now sees that.
00:35:47.700 He understands the folly
00:35:49.080 of boots on the ground.
00:35:51.040 He understands the folly
00:35:52.540 of endless
00:35:53.400 and expensive foreign war
00:35:55.260 when the American people
00:35:56.480 can't see why we're fighting,
00:35:58.680 what our interest is.
00:36:00.020 Here, I think he's been
00:36:01.220 abundantly clear.
00:36:02.640 Said from the beginning
00:36:03.660 that the Iranians could not,
00:36:06.020 would not be allowed
00:36:07.120 to have nuclear weapons,
00:36:09.440 and he made a tough decision here.
00:36:12.980 Every American,
00:36:14.140 Republican, Democrat,
00:36:15.740 Independent,
00:36:16.280 even those who are not political,
00:36:18.100 they should be rallying
00:36:19.360 behind the commander-in-chief
00:36:21.540 right now,
00:36:22.380 not taking pot shots
00:36:23.900 at his decisions.
00:36:25.840 Oh, you're absolutely right.
00:36:26.960 I mean, this is,
00:36:28.080 you used the term historic,
00:36:29.920 and I think it's even
00:36:32.300 beyond historic, Roger.
00:36:34.620 You know, this country
00:36:35.620 has been led by people
00:36:37.860 that you referred to
00:36:38.820 a minute ago
00:36:39.460 as neocons
00:36:40.840 that have gotten us
00:36:42.700 into these kinds of conflicts
00:36:45.700 that are useless.
00:36:47.120 They turn out to be meaningless,
00:36:48.860 they're a disaster,
00:36:49.820 they destroy our credibility,
00:36:51.260 and most of all,
00:36:52.100 they kill American kids,
00:36:53.720 and they kill hundreds of thousands,
00:36:55.960 if not millions,
00:36:56.680 of people in some of these countries
00:36:58.000 that we've gone into.
00:36:59.880 Donald Trump is doing
00:37:01.440 exactly what I said,
00:37:04.040 I think, thought he would do
00:37:05.480 because of what he said
00:37:07.140 in his campaigns,
00:37:08.700 but also his actions
00:37:10.180 as the 45th president
00:37:12.460 of the United States.
00:37:13.700 He's doing it exactly the way
00:37:16.120 that I would hope
00:37:17.680 that he would do it.
00:37:18.760 The only question I've ever had
00:37:20.580 was, you know,
00:37:21.620 who's advising him?
00:37:22.520 What's the plan
00:37:23.080 they're putting together?
00:37:23.980 Here are the questions
00:37:24.700 I hope Donald Trump's
00:37:25.700 getting answers to,
00:37:26.680 and he must have gotten
00:37:27.680 the answers to those questions
00:37:29.020 that I was asking
00:37:30.120 to his satisfaction,
00:37:32.540 and he gave the order,
00:37:34.500 and the military
00:37:35.580 and the intelligence agencies
00:37:37.340 and the State Department
00:37:38.640 have followed the orders
00:37:41.220 and perfectly executed
00:37:43.480 those orders
00:37:44.340 and put us in a position
00:37:45.920 where I can actually think
00:37:48.600 about peace in the Middle East
00:37:50.280 and maybe even in Iran
00:37:52.460 that is not chasing
00:37:54.820 after a nuclear weapon
00:37:56.120 to try to kill me
00:37:57.420 and all my comrades
00:37:58.400 and all my fellow citizens
00:38:00.100 in this country,
00:38:01.060 which is what I've been living under
00:38:02.600 since I was 17
00:38:03.600 and enlisted during
00:38:04.620 the Iranian hostage crisis.
00:38:06.420 That is beyond historic.
00:38:08.640 It's epic, Roger,
00:38:09.840 and we should not
00:38:12.820 criticize the president now.
00:38:15.320 The time for questions
00:38:16.260 was beforehand.
00:38:17.660 You've raised your questions
00:38:18.860 or your objections
00:38:20.180 if you have them.
00:38:21.420 The president of the United States,
00:38:22.940 the commander-in-chief
00:38:23.700 in this case,
00:38:24.300 deliberates over that,
00:38:25.620 and he had an extended
00:38:27.120 deliberative process over this.
00:38:29.200 That's another thing
00:38:29.980 that other presidents
00:38:31.280 have not done,
00:38:32.620 including George W. Bush
00:38:34.120 after 9-11,
00:38:35.080 not nearly a long enough
00:38:36.520 deliberative
00:38:37.180 and investigative process
00:38:38.540 answering the right questions
00:38:40.420 about the actions
00:38:42.520 that we were taking,
00:38:43.360 especially during the follow-on
00:38:44.940 in Afghanistan and Iraq.
00:38:46.580 That was atrocious
00:38:47.540 and a tragedy
00:38:48.640 for the American people
00:38:49.920 and our armed forces.
00:38:51.180 We have to leave it there.
00:38:52.940 I want to thank our guest,
00:38:54.120 Colonel Rob Bannis,
00:38:55.240 and thank everybody
00:38:56.020 for joining us today
00:38:57.260 in the Stone Zone.
00:38:59.080 Until tomorrow,
00:39:00.020 God bless you
00:39:00.880 and Godspeed.
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