The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - The Stone Zone ｜ 06-24-25

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:06.240 Welcome. You are now entering the Stone Zone, and I'm your genial host, Roger Stone.

00:00:14.160 Well, while President Donald Trump fights to hold together a fragile ceasefire between Israel and Iran,

00:00:21.720 it seems like fighting has broken out in the MAGA movement.

00:00:27.820 Mark Levin is attacking Steve Bannon and Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:00:34.940 Laura Loomer is attacking Tulsi Gabbard and Tucker Carlson.

00:00:39.180 Tucker Carlson is returning fire.

00:00:42.700 Matt Gaetz is attacking Mark Levin.

00:00:46.160 In all honesty, the time for this discussion, and I would have lowered the decibels,

00:00:52.620 was before the president made his decision.

00:00:56.460 Now, as a 50-year veteran of American politics, as a veteran of 13 national presidential campaigns,

00:01:05.880 I say it's time to rally around the commander-in-chief.

00:01:11.240 Now, I'm an anti-interventionist Republican.

00:01:15.720 I'm certainly no fan of the neocons and their record of endless war.

00:01:21.580 I'm the guy who wrote the Bush crime family. 0.89

00:01:25.140 I'm no fan of the war in Iraq.

00:01:28.720 But the difference between what President Trump has done and that war is like day and night.

00:01:34.340 First of all, in Iraq, we never had any plausible reason. 0.85

00:01:39.260 Our inherent national interests were not clear.

00:01:41.880 We were told two lies.

00:01:44.620 Vice President Dick Cheney told us that the regime in Iraq had yellow cake uranium,

00:01:52.540 with which they were going to build nuclear bombs.

00:01:55.820 That was a lie.

00:01:57.400 And he continued to imply that the Iraqis were involved in the attack on America on 9-11.

00:02:04.820 A second lie, $500 million later and 18 years, and that was a costly mistake made by people who were neocons.

00:02:17.680 This has been a more surgical operation.

00:02:21.520 There are no boots on the ground and there isn't going to be.

00:02:24.960 An end is in sight.

00:02:26.800 And even in the response in which the Iranians attacked a U.S. base in Qatar, this was all for show. 0.83

00:02:35.600 They called the leadership of Qatar to tell them to tell the Americans to clear everybody out of the base

00:02:41.800 so that nobody was injured, but it didn't really matter because all of their incoming missiles were intercepted.

00:02:49.300 So it appears to me to be for appearances.

00:02:52.500 But I would warn everybody in the MAGA movement that we have a midterm election coming up

00:03:00.680 and fighting among ourselves at a time when we only have a three-seat margin in the House is folly.

00:03:08.980 In the meantime, Al Green, not the singer, the congressman from Texas, you remember him,

00:03:14.680 he's the guy who had to be removed from the chamber of Congress because he kept yelling at the president

00:03:21.560 and wildly swinging his cane during the State of the Union address.

00:03:26.760 He has now filed articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump.

00:03:32.400 He argues incorrectly that the decision by President Trump to surgically strike the three nuclear weapons development sites

00:03:42.880 in Iran violates international law.

00:03:46.100 Interestingly enough, the head of NATO, hardly a pro-Trump organization, says that that's not accurate.

00:03:54.540 I haven't heard from the U.N. yet, but I would remind everybody in the MAGA camp

00:04:01.340 that now is the time to support this president rather than bickering amongst ourselves.

00:04:07.480 I'm pretty pugnacious, but I'm not attacking anybody.

00:04:11.320 In fact, my criticism of Ted Cruz was written and published before the president made a decision on Sunday

00:04:18.320 to deliver this devastating blow against the Iranians. 0.99

00:04:24.040 And he was very clear.

00:04:25.440 He said 15 times, I checked it, during the campaign that it would not be acceptable for Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

00:04:34.980 This is a president who means what he says and says what he means.

00:04:40.360 In the meantime, President Trump has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize over the Iran-Israel conflict.

00:04:47.720 A House lawmaker has nominated President Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize

00:04:51.760 after he brokered the ceasefire deal between Israel and Iran.

00:04:57.340 Congressman Buddy Carter, Republican of Georgia, wrote to the Nobel Peace Prize Committee

00:05:02.500 declaring that Trump had, quote, an extraordinary and historic role in having ended the armed conflict

00:05:09.620 between Israel and Iran, preventing the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism 0.56

00:05:15.400 from obtaining the most lethal weapon on the planet.

00:05:19.580 Trump declared the 12-day war was ending late yesterday afternoon

00:05:25.840 with a ceasefire that was meant to go into effect overnight today.

00:05:31.040 It ends just over a week after Israel first launched their preemptive strike against Iran,

00:05:37.620 arguing that Tehran was dangerously close to obtaining a nuclear weapon.

00:05:43.240 The two countries subsequently traded rocket fire over the following days and over the weekend,

00:05:50.080 but the U.N. launched its own devastating airstrikes on three of Iran's key nuclear facilities on Sunday.

00:05:59.160 Iran, as I said previously, responded by shooting rockets at a U.S. air base in Qatar on Monday,

00:06:05.900 but not without giving advance notice to the United States and to the Qatari officials.

00:06:12.040 No injuries were reported in that attack.

00:06:14.700 So President Trump's influence was instrumental in forging a swift agreement that many believed was actually impossible.

00:06:23.960 President Trump also took bold, decisive action to halt Iran's nuclear ambitions

00:06:29.320 and ensure that the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism remained incapable of acquiring a nuclear weapon.

00:06:38.120 This is precisely what Congressman Carter said in his letter to the Nobel Peace Prize Committee.

00:06:44.960 Now, he said that Trump's leadership through the crisis exemplifies the very ideals that the Nobel Peace Prize seeks to recognize,

00:06:54.160 the pursuit of peace, the prevention of war, and the advancement of international harmony.

00:07:00.180 In a region plagued by historical animosity and political volatility, such a breakthrough demands both courage and clarity.

00:07:09.640 President Trump has, I think, demonstrated both, offering the world a rare glimpse of hope.

00:07:16.600 For all of these reasons, I really hope that the elitists on the Nobel Peace Prize Committee

00:07:23.060 will give Donald J. Trump, the 47th President of the United States, the Nobel Peace Prize.

00:07:29.400 But folks, do not hold your breath.

00:07:32.620 This is not the first time that Trump has been nominated for the prize, although he's never been awarded the prize.

00:07:39.360 Congressman Daryl Issa, Republic of California, tapped Trump for the prize just earlier this year,

00:07:46.460 arguing that his 2024 electoral victory had an astonishingly effective impact on peace in the world.

00:07:54.300 On True Social, President Trump himself wrote,

00:07:57.520 both Israel and Iran wanted to stop the war equally.

00:08:01.880 It was my great honor to destroy all nuclear facilities and capabilities and then stop this war.

00:08:09.860 Yesterday, in announcing the ceasefire, Trump wrote,

00:08:13.700 So he let them take shots at each other, I guess, for the theatrics, for the optics.

00:08:40.480 But that was only to last for 12 hours, at which point the war can be considered ended, to the president's words.

00:08:49.540 Officially, Iran will start the ceasefire and then, upon the 12th hour, Israel will start the ceasefire.

00:08:56.900 And upon the 24th hour, an official end to the 12-day war will be saluted by the world.

00:09:04.060 During each ceasefire, the other side will remain peaceful and respectful.

00:09:10.480 On the assumption that everything works as it should, which it will, the president said,

00:09:17.220 I would like to congratulate both countries, Israel and Iran,

00:09:22.040 for having the stamina, courage and intelligence to end what should have been called the 12-day war.

00:09:30.040 Now, this is a war that could have gone on for years and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn't.

00:09:37.340 And now, I think, thanks to the leadership of Donald Trump, it never will.

00:09:41.720 The president went on to say, God bless Israel, God bless Iran, God bless the Middle East,

00:09:46.980 God bless the United States of America.

00:09:49.500 And Donald J. Trump, president of the United States of America, is the way he signed it.

00:09:55.560 In another post later in the day, Trump wrote,

00:09:59.360 Now that we have peace abroad, we must finish the job here at home by passing the big, beautiful bill

00:10:06.880 and getting the bill to my desk as soon as possible.

00:10:11.240 It will be a historic precedent for the great people of the United States of America

00:10:16.260 as we begin the celebration of our country's 250th birthday.

00:10:21.980 We're finally entering our golden age, which will bring unprecedented safety, security and prosperity

00:10:28.520 for all of our citizens.

00:10:30.460 So, to my friends in the Senate, the president wrote,

00:10:33.900 Lock yourself in the room if you must.

00:10:36.200 Don't go home and get the deal done this week.

00:10:40.280 Work with the House so they can pick it up and pass it immediately.

00:10:44.300 So, please, no one should go on vacation until it's done.

00:10:49.300 Everyone, most importantly the American people, will be much better off thanks to our work together.

00:10:55.920 Let's make America great again.

00:10:58.640 In the meantime, President Trump has dared AOC, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York,

00:11:08.080 to try to impeach him.

00:11:09.780 She's, of course, one of the liberal members of the squad.

00:11:14.580 And she has talked about the president's impeachment over the U.S. strikes on Iranians' nuclear facilities.

00:11:22.280 On True Social, Trump wrote,

00:11:24.040 The reason for her ranting is all of the victories for the United States that have happened under the Trump administration.

00:11:46.480 The Democrats aren't used to winning, and she can't stand the concept of our country being successful again. 0.99

00:11:53.780 When we examine her test scores, we will find out that she's not qualified for office, 1.00

00:11:59.280 but nevertheless far more qualified than, say, Jasmine Crockett, who is a seriously low IQ individual.

00:12:07.960 Or more qualified than Ilhan Omar, who does nothing but complain about our country,

00:12:14.420 yet the failed country she comes from doesn't have a government, is drenched in crime and poverty,

00:12:20.800 and is rated as one of the worst in the world, if it's rated at all.

00:12:26.460 How dare the mouse, as he calls her, tell us how to run the United States of America?

00:12:31.560 We're now coming back from the radical left experiment with Sleepy Joe, Kamala, and the autopad in charge.

00:12:39.280 What a disaster it was.

00:12:41.780 AOC should be forced to take the cognitive test that I just completed at Walter Reed Medical Center as part of my physical.

00:12:50.140 As the doctor in charge says, President Trump aced it, meaning I got every answer right.

00:12:55.400 Instead of the constant complaining, AOC should go back home to Queens, where I also was brought up, 0.94

00:13:01.980 straightening out her filthy, disgusting, crime-ridden neighborhood. 0.92

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00:13:07.040 I'm Roger Stone, and we'll be right back.

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00:13:50.800 So, while ICE arrests and deportations have grabbed all the headlines,

00:13:56.860 as I said, President Trump is running a separate but complementary voluntary mass deportation program,

00:14:03.720 one that encourages people who are here illegally to go home voluntarily.

00:14:09.220 And if the initial reports are correct,

00:14:11.520 that plan is more successful than anyone could ever have imagined.

00:14:15.580 Based on government data, the Center for Immigration Studies has conservatively estimated

00:14:22.280 there are about 15.4 million illegal aliens in the United States.

00:14:28.040 And that is a 50% increase over the four tumultuous years of the Biden administration.

00:14:34.280 That's no surprise, really, given how Biden and his Department of Homeland Security,

00:14:38.880 Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas ignored congressional detention mandates

00:14:44.460 and ushered millions of illegal immigrants into the United States.

00:14:48.880 Trump, of course, wrote a wave of concerns about the costs and impact of these illegals

00:14:55.360 on the schools, hospitals, housing, and essential government services

00:14:59.860 in cities and towns across the United States.

00:15:02.700 Also, talking about the crime and drug epidemic that the open borders policy of the Biden administration caused.

00:15:11.680 So, now that he's back in the Oval Office, he and border czar Tom Homan,

00:15:17.280 who I know quite well and is quite a tough customer,

00:15:20.680 are driving the unauthorized population down 1.00

00:15:23.560 and restoring credibility to our immigration system.

00:15:27.460 So, they've implemented a two-track plan to tackle this onerous task.

00:15:32.700 One of those tracks relies on arrests and deportations of aliens unlawfully here,

00:15:38.500 which at the outset was focused principally on people with criminal records,

00:15:44.840 people who were convicted in their home countries or here of violence or other crimes.

00:15:51.820 But the other track is much more subtle and also much less expensive for the taxpayers

00:15:58.120 and therefore, arguably, much more effective,

00:16:01.920 encouraging illegal immigrants to self-support.

00:16:05.920 It began with an Inauguration Day Trump directive requiring the Department of Homeland Security

00:16:12.200 to ensure all aliens present in the United States, legal and otherwise, 0.98

00:16:16.800 have to register with the federal government and to prosecute those who did not comply.

00:16:24.020 By late February, the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security

00:16:27.820 had implemented that registration program.

00:16:30.820 Then, DHS launched the multimillion-dollar ad campaign warning illegals not to enter the country

00:16:38.540 and, alternatively, to leave voluntarily now and leaving open the possibility to return legally,

00:16:45.980 get their citizenship, and enjoy the freedom that America can provide.

00:16:52.020 This is typical of the outside-the-box thinking of President Donald Trump,

00:16:58.780 who, as I say, is struggling to hold together a fragile ceasefire in the Middle East.

00:17:03.780 Coming up next, retired Colonel Rob Maness, a 17, pardon me, a 37-year veteran of the Armed Services,

00:17:13.900 is going to talk to us about that ceasefire and what the prospects are for peace in the next coming period.

00:17:21.420 I have a lot of questions because this seemed to happen so quickly.

00:17:26.460 Military experts often disagree.

00:17:28.940 I cannot wait to get Rob Maness' view on it.

00:17:32.480 Stick with me here in the Stone Zone.

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00:18:47.020 And we're back in the Stone Zone.

00:18:51.540 Joining me now,

00:18:53.040 retired Colonel Rob Manis.

00:18:55.340 Rob Manis has a lifelong record.

00:18:58.840 He provided service to his country,

00:19:02.320 actually signing up in the U.S. Air Force

00:19:05.040 as a 17-year-old high school senior

00:19:08.540 and rising from an enlisted man

00:19:11.680 all the way to be a colonel.

00:19:13.800 He is someone that I go to for his geopolitical

00:19:17.760 and military strategic thinking.

00:19:20.400 Someone who understands war incredibly.

00:19:24.080 And we're very pleased to have him.

00:19:26.540 Colonel Manis, welcome to the Stone Zone.

00:19:31.120 Hi, Roger.

00:19:32.260 Thanks for having me back on.

00:19:33.520 So, this has happened so quickly

00:19:37.900 in this historic move.

00:19:40.040 President Trump not only launched this surgical strike on Sunday

00:19:45.440 on the three nuclear facilities in Iran.

00:19:50.580 The Iranians immediately said

00:19:52.680 that he did no real damage,

00:19:54.480 that they had actually moved

00:19:56.240 the development of their nuclear weapons program elsewhere.

00:20:00.560 Did this have any credibility with you at all?

00:20:06.660 Well, we have seen some open-source satellite imagery

00:20:10.020 that is really timely

00:20:15.080 just before the strikes within a couple of days

00:20:18.260 that showed trucks at the four-hour facility.

00:20:21.740 I haven't seen any at the other facilities, though.

00:20:23.740 So, it's likely they probably tried to move some of their stuff.

00:20:27.100 Did they get it all?

00:20:27.860 Well, I doubt it.

00:20:28.540 It's a lot of equipment that they have in there,

00:20:30.420 from what I understand.

00:20:32.320 But to say that there was no damage 0.95

00:20:35.340 is just really a dumb move

00:20:37.960 because we have post-strike satellite imagery 0.86

00:20:41.000 from American military satellites,

00:20:43.540 which is very good.

00:20:45.540 And I counted six penetration holes

00:20:49.180 from GBU-57,

00:20:51.360 so the 30,000-pound bunker buster bombs, Roger.

00:20:54.740 And that means there were 12 put into that facility.

00:20:58.920 It will be...

00:20:59.920 Now, we have to wait on the official bomb damage assessment

00:21:02.700 from the intelligence folks

00:21:04.800 that are doing various types of techniques

00:21:07.480 to do the assessment of how much damage

00:21:10.440 was really done to that facility.

00:21:12.380 But if there are 12, 30,000-pound weapons

00:21:15.780 that detonated inside that facility,

00:21:18.240 I doubt there's much left that's usable in there

00:21:22.420 or if it's even interable by human beings at this point.

00:21:26.960 So, you know, when the president used the term obliterated,

00:21:30.640 I would assess that it's been obliterated.

00:21:34.480 But, you know, we're not going to know for sure

00:21:36.400 until all of the BEAs finished.

00:21:38.440 And the question about did they get anything out,

00:21:41.840 I'm sure that our military and intelligence agencies

00:21:46.480 and so are our allies, I'm sure,

00:21:48.460 the Israelis, who are very good at this too,

00:21:51.580 are tracking on and tracking that stuff down

00:21:55.020 if they think that it's possible.

00:21:57.980 Well, what surprised me was the extraordinary OPSEC,

00:22:02.700 Operation Secrecy,

00:22:03.940 in a town in which everything, everything leaks

00:22:08.200 and in which President Trump, I think,

00:22:10.380 had a great head fake in which he said,

00:22:12.360 well, I'm going to make a decision in two weeks

00:22:15.120 only to strike 24 hours later.

00:22:18.520 That in itself was exceptional.

00:22:21.240 Never seen that before.

00:22:22.520 Have you?

00:22:24.380 No.

00:22:25.100 Well, I've seen it before,

00:22:26.800 but not by the president of the United States.

00:22:29.620 You know, they usually try to have

00:22:31.680 that individual appear to be most on the up and up.

00:22:36.260 And he is credible.

00:22:38.220 When he said it, he was credible.

00:22:40.400 At first, I was like, wow,

00:22:41.380 he's going to give them two more weeks.

00:22:42.680 He's really trying to give diplomacy a chance,

00:22:45.080 which he really is, too.

00:22:46.340 When I say that, I sincerely mean

00:22:48.000 President Trump's heart is in the right place.

00:22:50.040 He is a president.

00:22:51.200 He wants peace.

00:22:52.120 He wants to end these.

00:22:53.380 But the deception operation

00:22:56.520 to achieve the tactical surprise that we did, Roger,

00:22:59.680 that is the most effective deception operation

00:23:02.800 in American combat history

00:23:05.440 that I've ever, ever seen in my lifetime, anyway.

00:23:09.500 It was incredible.

00:23:11.780 The other thing that was incredible

00:23:13.260 is that the B-2 fleet of aircraft

00:23:15.340 is only 19 airplanes.

00:23:16.860 And on any given day,

00:23:18.880 only about 46 to 43 to 56% of those airplanes

00:23:24.880 are what we call fully mission capable,

00:23:27.200 which are capable of flying a combat mission

00:23:29.520 and returning with the most probability.

00:23:33.160 And they got seven of those 19 aircraft

00:23:35.440 over the target, undetected.

00:23:38.660 They hit the target

00:23:39.720 as exactly the way they were asked to do it

00:23:42.860 with the weapons they were asked to do it with,

00:23:45.320 all three targets, anyway.

00:23:47.680 And they left without being detected.

00:23:50.600 Usually when bombs start going off,

00:23:52.920 somebody figures out where the aircraft are,

00:23:55.500 if there are bombers or fighters overhead,

00:23:57.840 and they start at least firing dumb artillery rounds

00:24:00.680 up in the air to try to hit something.

00:24:02.500 Not even that happened, from what I understand.

00:24:05.060 And then you put the Tomahawk land attack missiles

00:24:08.480 that were fired off the submarines

00:24:10.000 two hours before the airplanes got there,

00:24:12.120 striking the third target at Ishtrahan

00:24:14.940 after the aircraft left.

00:24:16.760 That's an incredible air campaign operation

00:24:19.820 that our Hatsop's got to go 0.83

00:24:21.840 to the maintenance personnel

00:24:23.420 and the bomber air crews

00:24:25.200 and all of the air crews of the 125 aircraft.

00:24:28.460 And then, of course,

00:24:29.100 the Israeli Air Forces and Defense Forces

00:24:31.620 did a phenomenal job

00:24:33.820 taking down the integrated air defense system

00:24:36.360 that was a Russian system.

00:24:38.160 So the Russians should be feeling pretty bad 0.99

00:24:41.580 and their clients that buy that system

00:24:43.360 are probably looking at them going,

00:24:44.860 hey, your stuff doesn't work.

00:24:47.180 So as you know, President Trump's now called on Iran

00:24:50.480 and Israel for this ceasefire.

00:24:53.920 There have been instances already

00:24:56.180 of both of them breaking the ceasefire.

00:24:59.660 What do you think the chances are

00:25:01.440 that President Trump can keep everybody

00:25:03.860 in these two warring states in line?

00:25:06.300 I think he's the only president

00:25:07.900 of the United States in our history

00:25:09.180 that I would place a bet.

00:25:10.700 I'm not a betting person.

00:25:12.060 You can ask the guys I used to go to Red Flag

00:25:13.980 in Las Vegas with.

00:25:14.980 I didn't bet.

00:25:15.640 I watched them, their money.

00:25:17.420 But I would bet on the president

00:25:19.020 to be able to get this to firm up

00:25:22.220 and to make it something permanent.

00:25:27.180 And, you know, the Israelis,

00:25:29.040 they asked us to come in,

00:25:30.820 begged us, really.

00:25:32.400 So we did.

00:25:33.800 And the president negotiates a ceasefire.

00:25:36.540 The one thing that happened there

00:25:38.080 is the wheel of war turned

00:25:39.480 and the president of the United States

00:25:40.840 became the commander-in-chief

00:25:42.260 of all allied countries and forces.

00:25:45.240 And Prime Minister Netanyahu

00:25:46.440 needs to be paying attention

00:25:48.480 to what is now commander-in-chief

00:25:50.380 is asking to be done

00:25:52.480 because they're working for us now.

00:25:55.160 Yeah, I made this point earlier in the show.

00:25:57.840 I would like to see people in MAGA world,

00:26:00.300 in Trump world,

00:26:01.140 stop bickering.

00:26:02.460 The decision's been made.

00:26:04.160 Now, in my opinion,

00:26:05.180 it's a time to rally around

00:26:06.680 the commander-in-chief.

00:26:08.680 He has access to intelligence

00:26:10.780 the average American does not have,

00:26:13.400 that the average American pundit

00:26:15.680 does not have.

00:26:17.260 It was fine to have a debate

00:26:19.220 prior to his making a national decision.

00:26:24.380 This has to be a difficult decision

00:26:26.540 for any president,

00:26:27.900 but the time to have that debate

00:26:30.160 was last week.

00:26:31.040 Second-guessing the president,

00:26:33.340 I think,

00:26:33.960 is very damaging to the movement,

00:26:38.020 and I think it disrespects

00:26:40.540 the greatest president in my lifetime.

00:26:43.520 I guess my greatest concern

00:26:45.960 is the possibility of sleeper cells.

00:26:49.740 Border Patrol has recently arrested

00:26:51.960 a substantial number of fighting-age

00:26:55.020 Iranian nationals near our border.

00:26:57.940 How concerned are you about

00:27:00.300 potential Iranian or Islamic sleeper cells

00:27:04.560 here in America?

00:27:05.840 I'm very concerned, Roger.

00:27:07.460 And on your point about supporting the mission,

00:27:11.160 now that the commander-in-chief's

00:27:12.600 made his decision,

00:27:13.340 that's what we do,

00:27:14.300 especially in the national security world.

00:27:15.960 And I said this on air several times

00:27:19.360 as we were talking about

00:27:20.260 to the front up of there.

00:27:21.320 Once the boss makes the decision,

00:27:23.140 it's our job to salute smartly

00:27:24.840 and get on and support the mission

00:27:26.380 and help get it done.

00:27:28.780 But the Iranians, 1.00

00:27:30.220 I'm very concerned about that

00:27:31.820 because over 1,500 Iranians

00:27:33.720 that we know about

00:27:34.700 were caught by the Biden administration,

00:27:37.100 and they released over 450 of those Iranians

00:27:40.560 back into the country. 0.83

00:27:42.040 And that's not counting

00:27:43.000 the Chinese military-age mills,

00:27:44.700 that we know there's a communist

00:27:46.060 and Islamist alliance

00:27:47.800 that works at the working level all the time.

00:27:51.580 So they probably have support in that regard.

00:27:54.500 I live in South Mississippi,

00:27:55.820 and the FBI arrested 11 of Iranians

00:27:59.940 just today or late last night,

00:28:02.380 and one of them was arrested

00:28:04.060 in my home state

00:28:05.540 and one in Alabama.

00:28:06.820 So this is a national issue.

00:28:08.960 People need to be exercising

00:28:10.400 their Second Amendment rights responsibly

00:28:12.520 and be ready and prepared for anything.

00:28:16.400 Keep your head on a swivel

00:28:17.600 and pay attention to what's going on

00:28:19.300 because more than likely,

00:28:20.360 when they strike,

00:28:21.660 they're going to strike at a soft target

00:28:23.520 where there's very little security

00:28:25.500 or law enforcement, if any at all,

00:28:27.700 and it may come to a citizen

00:28:29.060 to be able to defend themselves,

00:28:31.260 we should do that.

00:28:32.240 And it's our responsibility and duty

00:28:33.980 to do that under the Constitution

00:28:36.040 of the United States.

00:28:37.680 Yeah, I would remind you

00:28:39.280 that under Joe Biden,

00:28:40.780 we had perhaps the greatest

00:28:43.460 single spy penetration

00:28:45.920 of our national security apparatus

00:28:48.520 since Alger Hiss.

00:28:50.280 A man named Robert Malley,

00:28:52.580 working at the State Department,

00:28:54.200 was and is an Iranian spy.

00:28:59.400 His associates,

00:29:00.800 a woman named Tabatani,

00:29:02.300 I believe it is,

00:29:03.480 they suspended his security clearance,

00:29:06.860 but that's it.

00:29:07.820 He's never been prosecuted.

00:29:09.460 They've never told us what it was.

00:29:12.720 We do know that his associates,

00:29:15.220 within 24 hours of the Israelis 0.79

00:29:18.280 letting us know

00:29:20.500 of some of their plans,

00:29:22.020 that that intelligence

00:29:23.480 was passed on to the Iraqis.

00:29:25.880 This is a stunning spy scandal,

00:29:29.240 and some of these people

00:29:30.900 still have their security clearances.

00:29:34.020 It is really beyond belief.

00:29:36.900 Oh, yes, sir.

00:29:38.140 And, you know, Malley's associate,

00:29:39.960 I believe she was made 0.54

00:29:41.600 the executive assistant

00:29:43.360 to the Assistant Secretary of Defense

00:29:46.240 for Special Operations

00:29:47.560 and Counterterrorism,

00:29:48.840 if I remember correctly.

00:29:50.400 And even when the president took office,

00:29:53.520 President Trump took office,

00:29:54.860 she was still in that position,

00:29:57.040 and I don't know what the status of that is,

00:30:00.480 but she should not be anywhere near

00:30:02.480 anything in the Department of Defense,

00:30:05.040 because you're right,

00:30:06.880 that was a huge infiltration,

00:30:10.000 and I'm sure caused grave damage

00:30:13.220 to the United States of America.

00:30:14.820 You've written and spoken

00:30:16.980 quite a bit about the dangers

00:30:19.140 of the Chinese Communist Party

00:30:20.920 and China as our greatest adversary, 0.87

00:30:24.700 practicing unrestricted warfare

00:30:26.540 since 2019,

00:30:28.460 buying up land, ranch land, farmland,

00:30:31.560 other valuable assets,

00:30:33.880 infiltrating academia,

00:30:36.460 operating secret bio labs,

00:30:39.380 flying drones over our shipyards.

00:30:41.700 Do you still believe that China

00:30:44.680 is our greatest single national threat?

00:30:47.880 And if so,

00:30:48.900 how would you describe China's response

00:30:52.080 to what has just happened

00:30:53.360 to their client state, Iran?

00:30:56.540 I do believe that China

00:30:57.680 is still our greatest threat,

00:31:00.000 and one of the reasons

00:31:01.300 why I supported President Trump

00:31:02.960 is that he agrees with me,

00:31:04.880 and he's appointing a team

00:31:06.300 and getting it in place

00:31:07.740 that is working fervently

00:31:10.320 to correct our vision

00:31:12.940 and our focus

00:31:14.540 so that we're focused

00:31:16.060 on the Chinese Communist Party

00:31:17.620 appropriately,

00:31:18.660 and our allies are focused

00:31:20.060 on their own problems more,

00:31:21.780 as you know,

00:31:22.540 the problems with NATO and Europe,

00:31:24.400 and even now in the Middle East,

00:31:27.620 unfortunately,

00:31:28.460 we had to get involved in this.

00:31:29.840 As far as China's response

00:31:31.560 to their client state,

00:31:33.360 I think the president,

00:31:35.160 the man that wrote

00:31:36.680 the art of the deal,

00:31:37.760 I have to keep reminding people

00:31:39.320 that this man wrote

00:31:40.160 the art of the deal, folks,

00:31:41.720 he indicated in a tweet,

00:31:43.540 I think it was late last night,

00:31:45.380 that he might have made a deal

00:31:48.020 with the Chinese

00:31:49.020 about the oil

00:31:50.420 that they buy from Iran,

00:31:52.640 and that may be keeping them quiet.

00:31:55.480 I haven't seen much

00:31:57.720 since they made

00:31:58.800 their initial statements,

00:32:00.100 not really condemning it,

00:32:02.880 but, you know,

00:32:04.120 in strong terms,

00:32:05.160 but doing that,

00:32:06.240 and if the president

00:32:07.900 has figured out a way

00:32:09.260 to make a deal with them

00:32:11.360 about getting the oil,

00:32:12.960 continuing to get the oil

00:32:14.080 from the Iranians 0.98

00:32:15.480 that they have always done,

00:32:17.000 and that would be

00:32:17.460 the main driver

00:32:18.580 behind them taking

00:32:19.560 any action in that conflict,

00:32:22.220 or trying to take Taiwan

00:32:24.840 by violence

00:32:27.280 while we're distracted by that,

00:32:30.720 that economic carrot,

00:32:34.320 so to speak,

00:32:35.340 is the thing

00:32:36.480 that the president,

00:32:37.620 President Trump,

00:32:38.420 from what I've seen of him,

00:32:39.400 would try to use,

00:32:40.400 and so I'm not surprised

00:32:41.640 that he's done that,

00:32:42.560 and I think he's

00:32:43.180 successfully done that,

00:32:44.720 and if the ceasefire

00:32:45.760 can continue to hold,

00:32:47.500 and we can get the Iranians 0.94

00:32:49.960 to give up whatever

00:32:51.960 may be left

00:32:52.880 of their nuclear capabilities,

00:32:55.300 if we think there's any there,

00:32:57.160 and stop them

00:32:59.520 from using their proxies

00:33:01.040 and using their own weapons

00:33:02.660 from firing on Israel,

00:33:04.580 then the Chinese 0.96

00:33:05.520 will probably fall in line

00:33:07.500 and make our job

00:33:08.380 in the Middle East

00:33:09.380 of not totally disengaging,

00:33:12.480 but making it a lower priority

00:33:14.780 and focusing on the Indo-Pacific,

00:33:16.600 which we have to do

00:33:17.560 because of China's behavior.

00:33:19.960 And we are in great peril

00:33:22.040 by having all those

00:33:22.900 Chinese military-age males

00:33:24.380 inside the country,

00:33:25.900 plus the 270,000 students

00:33:28.880 that are here on visas,

00:33:30.380 plus they've bought

00:33:31.020 all that land,

00:33:31.800 and that land is,

00:33:32.600 not surprisingly,

00:33:34.400 purchased near our

00:33:35.480 strategic military installation,

00:33:38.320 so we have much work to do

00:33:40.480 to make sure

00:33:41.400 that we're internally secure

00:33:42.960 and focused externally

00:33:45.420 on the right threat,

00:33:46.700 and the biggest threat

00:33:47.420 is still the Chinese 0.97

00:33:48.380 Communist Party.

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00:34:40.380 And we're back in the Stone Zone.

00:34:43.640 We're talking about

00:34:44.720 the historic ceasefire

00:34:47.000 that President Donald Trump

00:34:48.700 seems to have pulled together

00:34:49.880 between the Iranians 0.99

00:34:51.880 and Israel

00:34:53.020 in the immediate aftermath

00:34:54.860 of this historic surgical strike

00:34:58.300 against three nuclear weapons

00:35:02.180 development facilities in Iran.

00:35:06.460 I'm still stunned

00:35:07.840 at how quickly this has all played out.

00:35:10.980 And Colonel Maness,

00:35:11.820 I guess I would point out

00:35:12.980 that even in the immediate aftermath

00:35:15.500 of the attack,

00:35:17.080 the Secretary of State,

00:35:18.120 Marco Rubio,

00:35:19.160 who I think is really emerging

00:35:20.640 as one of the major stars

00:35:22.480 of this administration

00:35:23.800 and the president

00:35:24.820 were immediately calling

00:35:26.580 on the Iranians 0.97

00:35:27.640 to return to the table,

00:35:29.720 to return to peace talks,

00:35:32.040 which makes him very different

00:35:33.880 than the neocons

00:35:35.380 who held those positions

00:35:37.320 before him.

00:35:38.780 I think we have

00:35:39.880 a historic opportunity here.

00:35:42.540 Donald Trump

00:35:43.060 is a different kind of cat, 0.90

00:35:44.980 and I think the world

00:35:46.280 now sees that.

00:35:47.700 He understands the folly

00:35:49.080 of boots on the ground.

00:35:51.040 He understands the folly

00:35:52.540 of endless

00:35:53.400 and expensive foreign war

00:35:55.260 when the American people

00:35:56.480 can't see why we're fighting,

00:35:58.680 what our interest is.

00:36:00.020 Here, I think he's been

00:36:01.220 abundantly clear.

00:36:02.640 Said from the beginning

00:36:03.660 that the Iranians could not, 1.00

00:36:06.020 would not be allowed

00:36:07.120 to have nuclear weapons,

00:36:09.440 and he made a tough decision here.

00:36:12.980 Every American,

00:36:14.140 Republican, Democrat,

00:36:15.740 Independent,

00:36:16.280 even those who are not political,

00:36:18.100 they should be rallying

00:36:19.360 behind the commander-in-chief

00:36:21.540 right now,

00:36:22.380 not taking pot shots

00:36:23.900 at his decisions.

00:36:25.840 Oh, you're absolutely right.

00:36:26.960 I mean, this is,

00:36:28.080 you used the term historic,

00:36:29.920 and I think it's even

00:36:32.300 beyond historic, Roger.

00:36:34.620 You know, this country

00:36:35.620 has been led by people

00:36:37.860 that you referred to

00:36:38.820 a minute ago

00:36:39.460 as neocons

00:36:40.840 that have gotten us

00:36:42.700 into these kinds of conflicts

00:36:45.700 that are useless.

00:36:47.120 They turn out to be meaningless, 0.98

00:36:48.860 they're a disaster,

00:36:49.820 they destroy our credibility,

00:36:51.260 and most of all, 0.97

00:36:52.100 they kill American kids, 0.99

00:36:53.720 and they kill hundreds of thousands, 0.91

00:36:55.960 if not millions,

00:36:56.680 of people in some of these countries

00:36:58.000 that we've gone into.

00:36:59.880 Donald Trump is doing

00:37:01.440 exactly what I said,

00:37:04.040 I think, thought he would do

00:37:05.480 because of what he said

00:37:07.140 in his campaigns,

00:37:08.700 but also his actions

00:37:10.180 as the 45th president

00:37:12.460 of the United States.

00:37:13.700 He's doing it exactly the way

00:37:16.120 that I would hope

00:37:17.680 that he would do it.

00:37:18.760 The only question I've ever had

00:37:20.580 was, you know,

00:37:21.620 who's advising him?

00:37:22.520 What's the plan

00:37:23.080 they're putting together?

00:37:23.980 Here are the questions

00:37:24.700 I hope Donald Trump's

00:37:25.700 getting answers to,

00:37:26.680 and he must have gotten

00:37:27.680 the answers to those questions

00:37:29.020 that I was asking

00:37:30.120 to his satisfaction,

00:37:32.540 and he gave the order,

00:37:34.500 and the military

00:37:35.580 and the intelligence agencies

00:37:37.340 and the State Department

00:37:38.640 have followed the orders

00:37:41.220 and perfectly executed

00:37:43.480 those orders

00:37:44.340 and put us in a position

00:37:45.920 where I can actually think

00:37:48.600 about peace in the Middle East

00:37:50.280 and maybe even in Iran

00:37:52.460 that is not chasing

00:37:54.820 after a nuclear weapon 0.92

00:37:56.120 to try to kill me 1.00

00:37:57.420 and all my comrades 0.99

00:37:58.400 and all my fellow citizens

00:38:00.100 in this country,

00:38:01.060 which is what I've been living under

00:38:02.600 since I was 17

00:38:03.600 and enlisted during

00:38:04.620 the Iranian hostage crisis.

00:38:06.420 That is beyond historic.

00:38:08.640 It's epic, Roger,

00:38:09.840 and we should not

00:38:12.820 criticize the president now.

00:38:15.320 The time for questions

00:38:16.260 was beforehand.

00:38:17.660 You've raised your questions

00:38:18.860 or your objections

00:38:20.180 if you have them.

00:38:21.420 The president of the United States,

00:38:22.940 the commander-in-chief

00:38:23.700 in this case,

00:38:24.300 deliberates over that,

00:38:25.620 and he had an extended

00:38:27.120 deliberative process over this.

00:38:29.200 That's another thing

00:38:29.980 that other presidents

00:38:31.280 have not done,

00:38:32.620 including George W. Bush

00:38:34.120 after 9-11,

00:38:35.080 not nearly a long enough

00:38:36.520 deliberative

00:38:37.180 and investigative process

00:38:38.540 answering the right questions

00:38:40.420 about the actions

00:38:42.520 that we were taking,

00:38:43.360 especially during the follow-on

00:38:44.940 in Afghanistan and Iraq.

00:38:46.580 That was atrocious

00:38:47.540 and a tragedy

00:38:48.640 for the American people

00:38:49.920 and our armed forces.

00:38:51.180 We have to leave it there.

00:38:52.940 I want to thank our guest,

00:38:54.120 Colonel Rob Bannis,

00:38:55.240 and thank everybody

00:38:56.020 for joining us today

00:38:57.260 in the Stone Zone.

00:38:59.080 Until tomorrow,

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