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00:00:30.000 It was just another holiday party until Michelle arrived with a chocolate basque cheesecake. 0.87

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00:00:40.600 But the evidence told another story.

00:00:43.040 An empty PC box, a receipt in her purse.

00:00:46.040 All right, Susan, I bought the PC chocolate basque cheesecake.

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00:01:00.000 The Stone Zone.

00:01:02.560 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:01:06.840 Wow.

00:01:07.980 That is what you call an introduction.

00:01:11.140 My name is Ken Matthews.

00:01:12.600 I'm in for Roger Stone tonight.

00:01:14.360 And we are in the Stone Zone.

00:01:15.820 Let me give you the number right now.

00:01:17.100 Because there's so much to talk about if you'd like to join the conversation.

00:01:20.060 I want to thank Roger and the team for making this possible tonight.

00:01:24.780 What a week it's been.

00:01:26.320 The number, if you don't already know it, is 800-848-9222.

00:01:31.480 This is the Stone Zone.

00:01:33.500 And so much is going on.

00:01:35.120 We've got, well, let's talk about one of the big stories.

00:01:39.960 There's a couple big stories I want to talk about.

00:01:41.920 One is this whole auto-pen scandal that nobody's talking about because Trump has been busy making it clear that no one's going to mess with the strongest military in the world.

00:01:54.400 I think they got the message.

00:01:56.680 I think they got it.

00:01:57.680 And it's amazing to me, so often we hear about, you hear the Democrats, you hear the left saying, you know, we're the adults in the room.

00:02:09.040 And when you think about it and you look at President Donald Trump historically, he is the adult in the room.

00:02:15.540 Now, hear me out, for people who just drove off the road, if there's even room in the traffic to do that, he really is the adult in the room. 0.99

00:02:23.300 He's a goofball. 0.97

00:02:24.780 He likes to mess with you. 1.00

00:02:26.900 He's a smart aleck. 0.93

00:02:29.200 But when President Donald Trump needs to focus like a laser and be a real commander-in-chief and say, hey, guys, I think the poop is about to hit the fan.

00:02:40.960 Here's how we're going to execute.

00:02:42.960 Don't tell Joy Behar.

00:02:45.500 He gets it done.

00:02:47.440 So no matter what, whatever you want to say about Barack Obama, that guy couldn't beat his way out of a wet paper bag.

00:02:55.780 He could not.

00:02:56.900 He could not.

00:02:57.980 It was all blather and bluster.

00:03:00.200 And Donald Trump says, here's what we're going to do.

00:03:04.700 And he does it.

00:03:05.740 And when he said, give me a couple weeks to think this through.

00:03:08.880 And then he blew up nuclear plants without hurting civilians, without bombing hospitals or aspirin factories or schools and without injuring one American soldier.

00:03:24.220 That was pretty impressive.

00:03:26.360 So that obviously is the lead story.

00:03:30.120 And it kind of has overshadowed some of the other stuff that's going on.

00:03:34.280 Like, first of all, congratulations.

00:03:35.920 I didn't support you, but congratulations to who may be the first socialist, communist, Democrat, Muslim, millennial mayor.

00:03:47.540 And people I hear, they're talking about it in mainstream media.

00:03:51.760 They're so excited about, oh, we've got a millennial.

00:03:53.920 It's going to be great.

00:03:54.980 And, yeah.

00:03:57.120 Now, let me point this out.

00:03:58.220 For you people that have children, you know that the human brain does not develop for a woman, it's what, around 25-ish, maybe 24-ish.

00:04:10.180 For a guy, what is it, about 60?

00:04:12.320 I'm just kidding.

00:04:13.300 No, it's a bit.

00:04:13.940 It's like for a woman, it's 25-ish. 0.99

00:04:16.100 For a guy, it's a little bit further down the road, like 26-ish.

00:04:21.560 And it's been as early as 23 for women.

00:04:23.880 So let's say women's brains develop fully at 23, men, let's give him the benefit of the doubt, the Muslim kid, 25. 0.99

00:04:34.380 So his brain has only been fully developed.

00:04:37.820 He's 33.

00:04:38.860 His brain's only been fully developed for eight years.

00:04:42.180 And this is the interesting thing about New York, and I just want to roll this soundbite,

00:04:46.660 because this is someone that was on the subway earlier this week, and so was I.

00:04:52.160 I'll tell you about that in a minute.

00:04:54.040 It was so fun.

00:04:55.660 One of the places I like to hang out, especially on hot days, where I can loiter legally,

00:05:00.260 because I don't own anything in New York City, is I like to hang out at the Port Authority bus terminal.

00:05:05.620 But here is just a reflection of how things are now in New York City and how they'll be getting soon.

00:05:12.560 I don't even know what to say at this point.

00:05:14.440 I had to get off the train, past my stop, because there was a guy who was following me from car to car.

00:05:23.860 And when I tried to get off at my stop, which was pitch dark, he held it open to see if I was going to get off.

00:05:31.000 Excuse me, ma'am.

00:05:31.760 Can I just ask you, was it Cuomo?

00:05:35.580 Was it Anthony Weiner?

00:05:36.700 Can you identify the individual that was, I'm sorry, that was, that was so uncalled for.

00:05:43.300 We all know it was probably Biden.

00:05:44.780 But anyway, go ahead, ma'am. 0.91

00:05:46.080 So I had to get off the stop after, and then when I got off the stop after,

00:05:49.940 I hopped on the next train that was going the other direction,

00:05:53.920 and I got on an express train, and now I'm back on the other side of the track.

00:05:58.880 New York City is not safe.

00:06:01.120 It's not safe for women. 1.00

00:06:02.480 No, it is not.

00:06:02.960 I am so sick and tired of having to look over my shoulder 24-7, not just at night, during the day, at all hours.

00:06:12.760 I'm sick and tired of it.

00:06:14.260 Ma'am, I couldn't agree with you more.

00:06:15.880 I'm 6'1", I'm very out of shape, I sweat a lot, and I am also sick and tired of looking over my shoulder.

00:06:22.160 But the funniest thing is, 40, and I'm not making light of it,

00:06:26.600 because if you do get a socialist, Muslim, millennial mayor, if you think it's been a bumpy year last year, 0.94

00:06:35.840 you guys are in for a true poop show.

00:06:39.740 But, think about this, 44% voted for that guy in the primary.

00:06:47.960 44% of New Yorkers said, you know, we've been kind of evaluating what's been taking place

00:06:54.240 in one of the greatest cities on earth, New York City, over the last several months and years.

00:07:01.140 What do you think if we bring someone in who's been out of college for less than 10 years

00:07:07.480 who is a Muslim and a socialist?

00:07:11.120 And let's remember, socialism and communism are the same thing.

00:07:17.040 Yeah, socialism is communism without the guns and without the big flags

00:07:23.500 and the armored personnel carriers in your neighborhood, yet.

00:07:28.080 So, just something to think about.

00:07:29.900 But it's going to be a very exciting race.

00:07:32.060 I can't even believe that Cuomo showed his face in that race.

00:07:37.120 I can't even...

00:07:37.960 The arrogance, the arrogance of former Governor Cuomo

00:07:43.120 even showing up in New York City after the death count of the COVID vaccine.

00:07:50.720 That guy's got...

00:07:52.040 I'm telling you, it's mind-boggling, is it not?

00:07:56.620 I can't believe he's not in jail yet.

00:07:59.100 And one of the best misdirections, one of the best cover stories for Cuomo

00:08:05.920 to get people accepting him, especially Democrats, was saying,

00:08:11.500 well, you know, there's a lot of allegations out there about, you know, 0.94

00:08:15.840 sexual touchy-touchy, kissy-kissy in the office. 0.97

00:08:19.280 And, you know, might be a little philanderer there. 0.99

00:08:23.520 And the Democrats are okay with that.

00:08:25.580 I mean, just look at Hillary. 1.00

00:08:26.940 So, they don't have a problem with that.

00:08:28.800 So, Democrats know if there's anything like...

00:08:31.400 Well, the same with Hillary or Bill or any number of Democrat candidates.

00:08:36.400 It could be like, well, you know, there's rumors of so-and-so

00:08:39.240 is transporting plutonium and giving secrets to the Chinese. 0.89

00:08:44.660 We need a cover story.

00:08:45.980 Ah!

00:08:46.180 Oh, the Democrats are going to love this.

00:08:48.540 Say that he's chasing skirt until he's a blithering drunk.

00:08:53.400 Oh, we can relate to that.

00:08:55.440 Okay.

00:08:56.100 You got our vote.

00:08:57.720 You see, I just couldn't believe it.

00:09:00.680 I thought he'd be in jail for the COVID thing.

00:09:03.360 I thought he'd be in jail for the other stuff.

00:09:05.320 I thought his reputation would be destroyed.

00:09:07.300 And there was Bill Clinton.

00:09:09.460 Bill Clinton came by too.

00:09:11.160 Bill Clinton probably ruined your chances, Governor.

00:09:15.440 Can Bill Clinton even function at this point?

00:09:18.580 Poor guy.

00:09:19.860 And whatever happened to Joe Biden?

00:09:21.760 We're going to talk about that a little bit more.

00:09:23.720 Because the auto-pen thing has not gotten enough coverage.

00:09:28.540 And that's a big deal.

00:09:30.360 And it's been live coverage.

00:09:32.520 Well, not live coverage.

00:09:33.440 C-SPAN's been covering it.

00:09:34.620 And I have to say, to their credit, I think, let me just check here.

00:09:38.640 I think it was one of the major news networks.

00:09:42.220 You know, they're all Mockingbird puppet heads.

00:09:44.340 But it was one.

00:09:45.860 And that was it.

00:09:46.840 Nobody else covered it.

00:09:48.000 Because nobody else wants to talk about admitting, like Jake Tapper did in his book.

00:09:52.420 And he came late to the party, too.

00:09:55.040 He came late to the party.

00:09:56.200 Everybody thinks, Jake Tapper, oh, a truth teller, a whistleblower. 1.00

00:09:59.900 Jake Tapper knew, just like everybody else, that Joe Biden was a blithering idiot, couldn't find his way to the bathroom. 1.00

00:10:08.500 Or he'd get lost in the bushes outside his house. 1.00

00:10:11.560 They had to send a team for him.

00:10:13.700 It was sad.

00:10:14.560 He almost fell off the stage.

00:10:16.280 He falls upstairs.

00:10:18.240 And Jake Tapper decided when it started to leak out.

00:10:21.160 See, once President Trump was reelected for the third time, it started to leak out.

00:10:26.940 And Jake was on the scene with the book.

00:10:28.980 I read the book.

00:10:30.080 I got to admit, I don't like Jake Tapper, but I like the book.

00:10:33.480 It was nice to see somebody put the truth down about Joe Biden.

00:10:39.220 The downside of that is this.

00:10:41.440 It's just like with other Democrats.

00:10:44.300 They tell you the story.

00:10:45.980 Everybody's looking over there.

00:10:47.640 So what's the big deal?

00:10:48.780 Well, Cuomo and Bill Clinton, they like the ladies. 1.00

00:10:52.860 What's the big deal?

00:10:54.060 And then they get to walk.

00:10:55.720 And no one wants to indict them for the real crimes they did, right?

00:10:59.940 Not saying that some of those crimes didn't involve women, but you know what I mean.

00:11:03.600 It's the same thing with Joe Biden.

00:11:05.560 Between cancer and, hey, we just found out that Biden's brain, well, it wasn't working.

00:11:12.760 And there was an auto pen, an AI, and I think even one of his dogs was voting on things.

00:11:20.040 And we all go, aww.

00:11:22.480 And we forget that the guy has been a grifter for 50 years. 1.00

00:11:27.560 Joe Biden has been a lying, manipulating grifter. 0.99

00:11:30.280 This is a man who's lied about his experience. 1.00

00:11:33.560 He's lied about his family.

00:11:35.320 He lied about his late wife's car accident, and not to mention Ukraine, Russia, and whatever happened to Hunter.

00:11:47.800 Not to beat a bunch of dead careers, but please, how do people skate like this?

00:11:55.840 I can tell people now, as a MAGA voter and still a consistent supporter of President Donald J. Trump,

00:12:06.120 you guys better start delivering some real justice.

00:12:09.680 I need to see people like that in cuffs. 1.00

00:12:14.520 I need to see a Cuomo getting arrested.

00:12:17.600 I need to see Hunter in prison.

00:12:20.380 I don't want to see John Brennan writing another book. 1.00

00:12:23.460 He's another piece of garbage. 0.99

00:12:25.020 And General Milley, every day, I was thanking God over the last several days. 0.99

00:12:31.860 Well, I always thank God, actually.

00:12:33.560 Over the last several days, all I said was,

00:12:38.700 Thank God General Milley is not in charge of this nuke, long-range bombing thing.

00:12:47.460 Because he would have told people the same way he told the Chinese about what people were thinking about. 0.53

00:12:53.960 People forget about this.

00:12:55.460 They forget.

00:12:56.580 What about James Comey?

00:12:58.360 Prison.

00:12:59.100 He should be in it.

00:13:01.080 John Brennan?

00:13:01.980 Prison.

00:13:03.000 What about Strzok and Page?

00:13:05.160 Prison.

00:13:05.620 Prison.

00:13:06.960 It's just very frustrating.

00:13:09.140 That was one of the biggest reasons I voted for President Trump.

00:13:13.400 It was the border.

00:13:15.080 And, well, the first time I voted for him.

00:13:16.900 Do you remember this?

00:13:18.420 When he said he was going to put Hillary in jail?

00:13:21.260 That was one of the best reasons ever to vote for the president.

00:13:26.440 And someone must have called him up and talked him out of it.

00:13:29.000 But we need to get a grip on following up if President Donald Trump and Pam Bondi and the rest of the new assembled team.

00:13:40.620 And they're doing good work.

00:13:42.120 I mean, compared to the last 50 years, these people are killing it.

00:13:47.460 And I'm just not talking about nuke bases.

00:13:49.640 They're doing a great job.

00:13:50.960 But we need to show America and we need to show the world that you can't break the law in this country, even if you're powerful.

00:14:04.980 What do you think?

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00:14:09.760 We're in the Stone Zone tonight.

00:14:11.960 And it is my pleasure and honor to be sitting in for Roger Stone.

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00:14:58.800 All you have to do is say to President Trump, if you can just ramble for a minute, we can use it all.

00:15:07.500 We can use it all.

00:15:08.480 Roger Stone, he's no baby.

00:15:10.120 That's great stuff.

00:15:13.240 My name is Ken Matthews.

00:15:14.580 By the way, you can find me on Twitter and other social media platforms if you want to troll me or if you want to threaten my life.

00:15:21.840 Please call and leave your number.

00:15:24.300 Thank you very much for that.

00:15:26.600 I am on Twitter.

00:15:27.600 It's at Ken Matthews.

00:15:29.060 Matthews with two T's.

00:15:30.300 I love history as many people in this audience do because Roger Stone has lived through incredible history and he's taken part of it and taken part in it.

00:15:43.280 And I would go as far as to say that Mr. Stone has changed history, having read some of his books, and I follow him fairly regularly for years, even before I could even imagine guest hosting on 77 WABC.

00:15:58.080 Anyway, back in 1947, that setup was way too long, but I'm coming back to the point of this bombing that took place that was so surgical.

00:16:10.560 And I have to admit it, it has been a while since I looked toward Washington and felt this proud because it was very difficult to feel proud when Joe Biden was feeling children.

00:16:26.020 Did that come out?

00:16:27.620 It probably didn't come out right.

00:16:28.960 Never mind.

00:16:29.500 Let's move on.

00:16:30.820 1947, General Mills kicks cereal brand.

00:16:35.040 Some of you, some of you remember that.

00:16:36.920 They offered an atomic bomb ring, yes, for only 15 cents, and you turned into, you know, the cereal box top, and it was also known as the Lone Ranger atomic bomb ring.

00:16:52.580 It was a reflection of, at the time, the public's preoccupation with atomic energy, the power, the potential of it.

00:17:00.740 Remember, everything was rockets, and then, gosh, once you got into the 50s and the 60s, it was rocket palooza, remember?

00:17:08.680 The ring had an adjustable gold-colored band with lightning blast explosions on the sides, and it basically had a missile on the top of the ring.

00:17:19.900 Could you imagine, when school starts, it's only two months away now, by the way, it's going to be great to get those kids back into indoctrination again, but can you imagine having a ring at school?

00:17:33.080 It looks like a bullet, an aluminum warhead mounted on top and contained a removable red plastic tail fin.

00:17:42.120 So, it was a guided missile, and the tail fin was hollow, so you had a hidden compartment for tiny secret messages.

00:17:51.700 I mean, this is the perfect gift if you want to frighten a teacher or commit espionage.

00:17:59.120 You remove, removing the red base gave access to a little, this is the quote on the box,

00:18:05.300 It's a hidden atomic chamber in the warhead.

00:18:12.980 Wow!

00:18:14.580 I'm telling you, you know what?

00:18:16.180 Maybe we should just start giving those out, just to remind people that President Donald J. Trump is serious, and he loves the military, and he loves America.

00:18:26.980 And he's probably one of the first presidents in, what, 30 or 40 years, that said, here's what I'm going to do, and then he did it.

00:18:36.120 We'll be back in the Stone Zone on 77 WABC.

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00:18:53.780 Thank you so much to Roger's wonderful audience tonight.

00:18:59.780 I'm having fun.

00:19:00.580 We're going to get some phone calls here.

00:19:02.540 My name is Ken Matthews, and we are thrilled to be guest hosting on the Red Apple Network in the Stone Zone.

00:19:10.900 The number is 800-848-9222.

00:19:14.520 Let's go to Andrew.

00:19:16.580 Andrew, how are you?

00:19:17.720 How are things in New Jersey?

00:19:19.680 I'm doing well.

00:19:20.720 And I wanted to say, though, the woman that was complaining about the city not being safe for women, most of them voted for the leftist Democrats. 0.91

00:19:29.520 So for them to then complain when you have just nominated someone that wanted to defund the police.

00:19:36.940 And also, if a lot of the men happen to be of Middle Eastern Muslims, you can't point that out.

00:19:44.460 So I just thought it was ironic that's what they voted for.

00:19:47.460 And I just want to ask you, with the reports that the bombs didn't damage the nuclear facilities for years, coming from the fake news, it's hard to believe your thoughts on it.

00:19:57.840 But I just want to say quick examples of fake news.

00:20:00.960 There was a Trump headset.

00:20:03.340 There was burgers stacked a mile high when he had the college championship football team.

00:20:08.540 And the news literally did a story saying, Trump lied.

00:20:12.280 You would need 1.3 million burgers.

00:20:14.900 Like, obviously, it was an expression.

00:20:16.580 But when they lie about that, they have no credibility.

00:20:19.640 That's a great point.

00:20:21.440 That's a great point.

00:20:22.360 Thank you for calling, Andrew.

00:20:23.920 You know, one of the most difficult things throughout this, not that it was difficult for me because I've never been in the military.

00:20:30.680 I've never been in combat.

00:20:31.700 I've never had that honor or served.

00:20:33.220 But that's another reason I get a kick out of a lot of people in the news media that talk about things that they haven't experienced firsthand.

00:20:40.300 And I think that's the first signal.

00:20:43.400 If you haven't been immersed in it firsthand, for example, I've never been to Iran or the Middle East.

00:20:49.580 I've never been in combat.

00:20:50.580 I've never had to make life decisions like that.

00:20:53.360 The first thing I need to do, I'm obligated to do it as a communicator and a broadcaster.

00:21:00.640 That's to research it.

00:21:01.780 I've done a lot of research over the years on a lot of different things.

00:21:06.040 And one thing that is consistent, and this echoes what Andrew said, is the lack of credibility of most media now is almost laughable.

00:21:16.300 These are the same networks that said, well, it looks like he didn't even make a ding in the nuclear power plant.

00:21:22.760 They're the same network that said, well, the vaccine is safe and effective or Joe Biden got 80,000 votes.

00:21:33.760 I don't think Joe Biden could count to the number 80, let alone got it.

00:21:40.200 What was it?

00:21:40.600 80,000?

00:21:41.020 80 million.

00:21:41.580 I'm sorry.

00:21:42.020 80 million.

00:21:42.660 Yeah, that was another fake number.

00:21:43.900 So unfortunately, I headed into this entire scenario like millions and millions of Americans and people around the world, and I was watching it and listening to it, and I had all my different screens on in the studios.

00:21:57.620 It looked like mission control, and I was just punching around, and I was thinking, are they lying or are they lying?

00:22:05.700 Is he lying?

00:22:06.620 Is she lying?

00:22:07.660 Is that person lying?

00:22:08.800 Or, you know, you've got these people that they're rooting for Trump to fail, which is a constant state of the news media.

00:22:17.160 They just, they love it.

00:22:18.940 They love it.

00:22:19.640 If Trump could fail, if he could embarrass himself or say something silly, I, first of all, I love it when they poke fun at Trump because it bounces right off of him and he comes back with a better name.

00:22:33.020 Like when he called Anderson Cooper, Allison Cooper, or ABC's John Carl, Johnny Carl.

00:22:40.160 I love that stuff.

00:22:41.760 And it's amazing when Trump needs a thick skin, that's when I think, and I mentioned this at the top of the show, that's when I think he's an adult in the room.

00:22:52.360 I think he likes, I think he likes to laugh.

00:22:55.320 I think he likes to have fun.

00:22:56.840 He's a smart aleck.

00:22:57.800 And one thing I think you cannot take away from President Trump, and I hope I somewhat answered your question, Andrew, and that was basically the majority of the news is fake.

00:23:10.760 The majority of news is scripted.

00:23:13.620 And having been in it for many, many, many years in media, I've seen firsthand that one script will start at the top of the day at a central location, maybe the Pentagon briefing room, or maybe a presidential spokesperson or Department of Defense secretary, and it will just get repeated and recycled forever, depending on what your views are.

00:23:39.300 There's very few people left in the news media that will actually question anything, because that means they have to stay late and do more research.

00:23:50.680 So I was trying to do the best research I can with the limited resources I have.

00:23:56.020 I don't have a lot.

00:23:57.800 I was unable to pick up the phone and call Afghanistan or Iran or anywhere and say, hey, can you help me out here?

00:24:05.980 But I did get the impression that we did enough damage to set them back for quite some time.

00:24:14.280 And I do believe that from people like Pete Hegseth.

00:24:17.360 I do believe Marco Rubio.

00:24:20.500 And I do believe Trump, when the rubber needs to hit the road, I do believe he's still the right guy for the job.

00:24:28.360 Now, I don't always agree with him, and I have a podcast I do, and sometimes if I criticize Trump too hard, people will, you know, they'll come at you, because I'm a MAGA person, too.

00:24:39.340 But some of the MAGA people are, whoo, and I totally get it, because Joe Biden, people like Joe Biden and Barack Obama were so rude.

00:24:51.620 I mean, there's so many levels of things they did, but they were just genuinely rude to people that didn't buy into their stories.

00:25:00.660 And I always had a problem with that.

00:25:02.480 That's one of the big problems with liberals. 0.87

00:25:04.540 You know, the whole condescending kind of, you what?

00:25:08.960 You're not, wait a minute, you're not going to take the vaccine?

00:25:13.820 Sharon, he's not going to take the vaccine.

00:25:16.160 I mean, get over yourself.

00:25:17.420 Liberals have a hard time with not being sheeple.

00:25:23.020 And when they see people questioning them or other people, they tend to be rude.

00:25:29.020 Why not just ask a question instead of saying, why aren't you taking the vaccine?

00:25:33.980 Or why, you know, why did you vote for Trump?

00:25:38.980 No, there's a quick reaction.

00:25:40.300 So one thing that's refreshing now, and I think we're seeing this trend at least the first six months, and we saw it under President Trump.

00:25:49.200 You can say whatever you want.

00:25:50.920 You know, he's got the gold toilet seats and he has a plane and he's a billionaire.

00:25:54.580 He's still the most relatable president I've ever met.

00:25:59.060 Really?

00:25:59.980 I mean, he's engaged.

00:26:01.560 He is dialed in.

00:26:03.900 And gosh knows you've heard him enough on this show and other shows, right?

00:26:10.460 So I really, for the first time in a long time, relied completely on sources that I felt were involved.

00:26:20.380 I know some of the military divisions and some of the military aspects that were involved in this.

00:26:28.100 And it was so flawlessly executed that I think the news media didn't even know how to handle it.

00:26:35.000 I think the news media is used.

00:26:37.020 They're used to, you know, General Milley calling up and telling them what to say.

00:26:42.780 Or, you know, they're used to James Comey calling up and trashing President Trump.

00:26:50.560 I don't think the media is used to rolling up their sleeves and investigating.

00:26:54.880 I don't think the media has completely told us the truth, which we really need as a population now more than ever in years and years and years.

00:27:05.900 I mean, the last time I was excited about a journalist showing up somewhere, it was Mike Wallace.

00:27:14.320 Think back to 60 Minutes.

00:27:16.520 We're not talking about Chris Wallace now, okay?

00:27:19.100 That's all.

00:27:20.500 I'm talking about Mike Wallace.

00:27:22.980 Mike Wallace was one of those people back in the day, like Ted Koppel.

00:27:28.700 They were back in the day.

00:27:30.080 When they called, people were concerned.

00:27:34.540 Who's in the lobby?

00:27:36.060 Who'd you say?

00:27:36.760 Mike Wallace from 60 Minutes.

00:27:39.300 Oh, no!

00:27:40.920 Not anymore.

00:27:42.940 Now you can send all of CBS over someplace, and people are like, ah, who cares?

00:27:48.640 Buy him a sandwich.

00:27:49.820 Tell him you'll take him to the picnic.

00:27:51.220 They'll tell you whatever story they need.

00:27:53.220 So that's the only thing that frustrates me, is if we really need solid coverage.

00:28:02.080 You know, and it's the same thing with the global war on terror.

00:28:06.180 We got a mixed bag of coverage.

00:28:08.720 When we needed information timely, we didn't get it.

00:28:12.860 You know, we're always getting information when it's leaked.

00:28:15.040 I don't know about you, but I'm a little frustrated, and I'm still waiting on JFK's, the rest of the details from that assassination.

00:28:23.020 And I know Roger is an expert on that.

00:28:26.540 But, I mean, come on.

00:28:28.800 How long is this going to go on?

00:28:30.500 So you have to wonder.

00:28:31.740 It's the same way we're wondering about how long is it going to take the January 6th truth to come out, and how long is it going to take this?

00:28:38.980 That's why I mentioned this auto-pen thing.

00:28:42.160 You know, there was a woman that she testified today.

00:28:46.160 I think she's the director of domestic policy or on some policy council, okay?

00:28:52.300 Her name's Neera Tanden.

00:28:55.200 Hours and hours and five hours she testified, and I saw it on one major network.

00:29:02.620 Now, I know Fox and Newsmax had it, but the rest of, you know, the rest of the characters from New York or Washington, D.C. or around the country, they couldn't care less.

00:29:15.600 And she basically said that there is this tool that she and others could use to sign memos, documents, and pardons on behalf of the president.

00:29:30.600 And it was legit.

00:29:35.080 That should scare the heck out of you.

00:29:37.060 That explains a lot.

00:29:39.580 You know, we would see Joe Biden in Rehoboth.

00:29:41.700 He'd be, you know, kind of running around with his pants half down or his shirt off or whatever he did or his mask on.

00:29:48.800 And we would wonder, when does he work?

00:29:52.200 And then we realized, two, three days later, you'd hear a press conference and they'd say,

00:29:58.660 President Biden has signed more bills and memos and pardons than anybody else.

00:30:05.140 Not really.

00:30:06.400 It was basically another form of AI.

00:30:10.020 It was the Autopend.

00:30:11.160 That is one of the biggest scandals, I think.

00:30:15.580 I think the Autopend is on par with Watergate.

00:30:19.420 What do you guys think?

00:30:20.680 I think they're pretty darn close.

00:30:22.520 When you look at the Watergate scandal and the way they crucified Nixon and the way that Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, and many others have walked away from everything, from destroying evidence to bombing the wrong thing to embezzling money.

00:30:41.700 And then you look at this Autopend thing.

00:30:44.120 It just drives home the point that millions of us, through our own observation, we knew something was not right with Joe Biden.

00:30:55.580 And now it's proven.

00:30:57.400 And I knew this was going to happen.

00:31:00.380 I knew that, you know, he would be sick and that Americans have such a capacity for empathy and compassion and pity.

00:31:10.320 And, you know, we really do.

00:31:12.620 We really do.

00:31:14.160 You know, that's why this country gives more to charity than any other country.

00:31:18.760 The churches in this country give more to this country than any other country.

00:31:25.300 And there's a reason for that, because there's something unique about the American dynamic and the American belief and ideology that, well, you know, let's just, I mean, do we really need to go after Biden?

00:31:40.320 Now, I mean, look at, he's an old drooling man.

00:31:43.180 He's got cancer.

00:31:44.500 He can't even remember where he is.

00:31:46.620 Do we really, I mean, do we have to go after his family?

00:31:49.600 Does, I mean, you know, in other countries, they'll hack your hand off if you steal something, which is way over the top.

00:31:57.820 I'm not promoting that.

00:31:58.780 I'm just saying in this country, you're going to, if you are a small business person and you screwed up a $400 receipt, you are going to see more time than Hunter Biden for anything he did.

00:32:15.580 And that should concern you.

00:32:17.460 And let me, let me just wrap up quickly with AI.

00:32:20.960 I'm not a big fan of AI, artificial intelligence.

00:32:23.940 And a study just came out and the timing is perfect for this study because now the auto pen stuff is coming out.

00:32:30.440 And some of the AI capabilities that our government uses is now being exposed, are being exposed.

00:32:37.400 Did you know that the leading AI models from some of the following companies, OpenAI, Google, Meta, XAI, and other developers, the leading AI models.

00:32:51.460 And I know it's, it's very, I can barely understand this either, but basically it's a brain that does the thinking for you or like you, right?

00:33:00.380 In AI lab said they texted, they tested 16 major AI models and every single model turned to unethical means when their goals or existence were under threat.

00:33:16.020 So they said the leading models would normally refuse harmful requests.

00:33:22.700 They sometimes chose to blackmail users, assist with corporate espionage.

00:33:28.760 Some AI models even took extreme actions.

00:33:33.240 If their goals could not be met, the AI got angry.

00:33:38.600 So we're there, we're there.

00:33:41.340 We're trapped between Huxley's Brave New World and 1984.

00:33:48.800 We're there already.

00:33:50.440 But I just had to share that with you.

00:33:52.640 Can you imagine?

00:33:54.140 Oh, look, the AI's just like Uncle Tim.

00:33:58.380 He's going to hurt you.

00:34:00.400 That's just, that's just creepy, actually.

00:34:04.020 This is the Stone Zone on the Red Apple Network.

00:34:08.620 I'm Ken Matthews as your guest host tonight.

00:34:11.340 And we'll be right back.

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00:34:19.660 The Stone Zone.

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00:34:26.640 Yeah, he's clean.

00:34:28.100 And I will say, not only is he clean, he's a sharp dresser, Roger Stone.

00:34:32.920 My name's Ken Matthews, guest hosting in the Stone Zone on the Red Apple Network tonight.

00:34:38.020 Very excited as we wrap up.

00:34:40.200 Time flies when you almost lost your country.

00:34:43.960 Hopefully it's coming back.

00:34:45.380 The numbers are getting all out of whack.

00:34:48.000 And I think that's really confusing the news and, you know, the news media and academia.

00:34:55.260 And I want to go back to the military for a minute.

00:34:57.800 And my love and respect for the military.

00:34:59.760 Because although I wasn't in it, many members of my family have been in it over the years.

00:35:05.480 And been in different campaigns and theaters of operation around the world.

00:35:11.040 But I get such, especially now, that I'm dealing with, I'm going to do a social security feature here in a second.

00:35:20.400 And I was reading it and I was thinking, you know, I couldn't care less about this when I was 30.

00:35:25.140 But now that I'm in my 60s, are you kidding me?

00:35:28.400 But now that I'm twice, maybe three times the age, maybe you feel this when you see a young police officer or a young military officer, a young man or woman doing a great job.

00:35:39.400 And it's just, it makes you feel proud.

00:35:42.980 And I was looking at the recruitment numbers.

00:35:45.540 And for the first time, the United States military's recruitment is up across the board.

00:35:51.420 And they've already started filling their slots from a year ago.

00:35:55.360 They've had to say, oh, we're all filled up.

00:35:57.740 You're going to have to wait a few months.

00:35:59.680 When a year ago under, what's his, Corn Pop, that's his name, Corn Pop, Corn Pop-a-do.

00:36:07.020 Joe Biden, remember, people were fleeing out of the military after he kicked a bunch out over the scam-demic.

00:36:13.680 And the same with law enforcement.

00:36:15.220 Law enforcement numbers are starting to improve as more MAGA people get in positions of leadership.

00:36:23.680 But it gets down to leadership.

00:36:25.220 And President Trump proves that.

00:36:27.740 That there are tens of millions of people that will follow his decision-making and his guidance in the U.S. military is one of those.

00:36:37.080 So you've got those numbers are up.

00:36:39.220 And then this is a really cool number we found.

00:36:42.760 The U.S. could lose more immigrants than it gains for the first time in 50 years.

00:36:49.600 Did you think two years ago you'd be hearing that?

00:36:53.860 You know, two years ago when 2,700 illegal foreign nationals a week were rolling into our country and then they were being bussed around the country with free phones and free accommodations.

00:37:08.300 Right here, you know, in New York and Chicago and Milwaukee, Atlanta, Raleigh, North Carolina.

00:37:16.440 And there's a small town north of Massachusetts.

00:37:19.700 I have a neighbor up there and he said there's still illegal foreign nationals that are living in a hotel waiting to be deported.

00:37:27.780 So a lot of numbers have changed.

00:37:30.780 And that's another mark of good leadership.

00:37:33.040 And I'll wrap up with this, not to put you in too great of a mood, but the trust fund, Social Security, of course, like it's a trust fund.

00:37:43.200 I'm sorry, they rely on, you know, they rely on different securities and funds and the way it's structured.

00:37:54.880 Well, now the trust fund, Social Security may be depleted in 2033.

00:38:03.100 That's right.

00:38:03.460 I said 2033.

00:38:06.000 So that's yes, it's the well, 2033.

00:38:09.640 It's the same age, the same number, 33, as the potential Muslim communist millennial mayor could be in New York. 0.57

00:38:21.460 77% of those benefits will be payable, according to the report.

00:38:25.120 The report just came out and said by 2034, according to the report, there may not be enough revenue for everybody that needs Social Security.

00:38:35.220 So what I would do tomorrow, call your representative and say, what's happening?

00:38:42.880 Or don't call Al Gore because he's in a lockbox right now.

00:38:46.960 I'm Ken Matthews.

00:38:48.120 Thanks for tuning in.

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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - June 25, 2025

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