The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The Stone Zone ｜ 07-02-25


Episode Stats

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

22


Summary

Bill Pulte, the head of the Federal Home Finance Administration, joins us to talk about all that. In the meantime, the State of Israel has agreed to a 60-day ceasefire in the Gaza Strip as President Trump continues to negotiate peace in the Middle East. Meanwhile, Donald Trump and Elon Musk are back at it, once again over the Big, Beautiful Bill.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:00:06.060 Welcome. You are now entering the Stone Zone.
00:00:10.080 Well, the boss of the Federal Housing Finance Agency,
00:00:14.380 who also chairs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,
00:00:17.180 the two federal housing powerhouses,
00:00:20.840 claims that Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell
00:00:23.940 should lose his job over allegedly false testimony
00:00:28.280 he gave to Congress regarding a $2.5 billion revamp
00:00:34.260 of the Federal Reserve's palatial D.C. headquarters.
00:00:38.580 This is, of course, the same Jerome Powell, Chairman of the Fed,
00:00:42.640 who is refusing to cut interest rates on the American people
00:00:46.320 despite the fact that both the inflation rate
00:00:49.340 and the unemployment rate are lower today
00:00:52.200 than when the Fed cut rates to try to assist Joe Biden
00:00:56.320 in last November's election.
00:00:58.860 Bill Pulte, the head of the Federal Home Finance Administration,
00:01:02.100 joins us later in the show to talk about all that.
00:01:05.580 In the meantime, the state of Israel has agreed to a 60-day ceasefire
00:01:10.020 in the Gaza Strip as President Trump continues to negotiate peace
00:01:14.520 in the Middle East.
00:01:15.580 Israel has been at war since the infamous October 7th attacks
00:01:19.640 by the Hamas terror group that rocked the Jewish nation
00:01:23.080 to its very core.
00:01:25.120 President Trump announced on True Social
00:01:27.060 that he has been working very hard with the Egyptians
00:01:29.860 and the Qataris to broker this peace deal.
00:01:33.720 And now Hamas has a chance to do the right thing,
00:01:36.580 as the president said, and bring lasting peace
00:01:39.020 and I would say also prosperity and safety
00:01:44.760 to the people of Gaza.
00:01:46.580 Israel remains focused on bringing home hostages
00:01:49.620 that are still being held in Gaza,
00:01:51.540 over 20 of which are still believed to be alive.
00:01:54.700 Israel's UN ambassador, Danny Danone,
00:01:57.100 confirmed that Israel is absolutely ready for a ceasefire,
00:02:00.500 but made it clear that the war will end
00:02:03.120 when our hostages are back home.
00:02:06.180 President Trump has already been able to cool tensions
00:02:09.160 between Israel and Iran,
00:02:11.100 following an exchange of hostilities
00:02:12.640 between those two countries.
00:02:14.980 President Trump's limited and surgical bombing campaign
00:02:18.480 of Iran also did, in fact,
00:02:21.800 destroy their nuclear weapons development capability.
00:02:26.020 And after that successful bombing campaign,
00:02:28.280 President Trump immediately made it clear
00:02:29.980 that there would be no regime change war,
00:02:33.940 no boots on the ground,
00:02:35.600 no endless foreign war.
00:02:37.640 He immediately urged the Iranians
00:02:40.140 to come back to the peace table.
00:02:42.180 The Trump foreign policy truly embodies
00:02:44.600 the whole peace through strength ethos
00:02:47.120 that was embodied by Ronald Reagan,
00:02:49.520 Richard Nixon, and President Dwight Eisenhower.
00:02:52.500 We should pray for Israel
00:02:54.220 and pray for peace in the Gaza Strip
00:02:55.980 as Trump works incredibly hard
00:02:58.260 to do his deal-making magic in the region.
00:03:02.920 In the meantime, Donald Trump
00:03:04.580 and his one-time friend Elon Musk
00:03:07.220 are back at it.
00:03:08.560 They're waging a war of wars,
00:03:11.020 once again, over the spending provisions
00:03:13.860 of the big, beautiful bill.
00:03:17.120 Musk, of course, has argued
00:03:18.700 that the big, beautiful bill is too expensive,
00:03:20.880 adding trillions to the debt.
00:03:22.760 President Trump has pointed out
00:03:24.120 the hypocrisy of Musk's railing
00:03:26.620 against government spending
00:03:27.640 when his own companies
00:03:29.140 have been the recipients
00:03:29.940 of some tens of billions
00:03:31.960 in federal subsidies throughout the year.
00:03:34.240 But putting that colorful exchange aside,
00:03:36.480 I think it's important
00:03:37.300 that if you want your car insurance to decrease,
00:03:40.560 you should deport 20 million illegals
00:03:43.580 who are in the country illegally.
00:03:45.340 If you want less traffic,
00:03:47.040 the answer is to deport 20 million illegals.
00:03:49.780 If you want less expensive housing
00:03:51.960 and competition for the affordable housing
00:03:54.660 that does exist,
00:03:55.800 we should deport 20 million illegals.
00:03:58.380 If you don't want to wait
00:03:59.500 in an emergency room,
00:04:02.220 you should deport 20 million illegals.
00:04:05.280 If we want Medicaid spending
00:04:07.000 and therefore the deficit to decrease,
00:04:09.260 as Elon has said,
00:04:11.160 the most immediate way
00:04:12.520 is to deport 20 million illegals.
00:04:15.200 If you want cleaner, safer cities
00:04:17.060 and walkable sidewalks,
00:04:19.040 again, deport 20 million illegals.
00:04:22.280 If you want an end
00:04:23.460 to the panhandlers at traffic lights,
00:04:26.000 a good way to stop that
00:04:27.720 would be once again
00:04:28.800 to deport 20 million illegals.
00:04:31.420 If you want Democrats
00:04:32.620 to never win a national election again,
00:04:35.060 then deport 20 million illegals.
00:04:38.040 The costs associated
00:04:40.060 with the social spending benefits
00:04:44.740 and housing of illegals
00:04:47.000 run into the billions,
00:04:48.700 some of it mandated by state law.
00:04:50.660 The fastest way to reduce
00:04:52.380 the size and scope of government
00:04:54.180 begins with one issue,
00:04:56.260 curbing illegal immigration.
00:04:58.540 Deporting millions of illegals
00:05:00.180 will reduce Medicaid
00:05:01.280 and health care spending
00:05:02.500 and thus cut the annual federal deficit.
00:05:05.080 It is, I think,
00:05:07.840 rather obvious at this point.
00:05:10.600 Deporting illegals
00:05:11.460 is as close to a panacea
00:05:13.220 that will fix our ailing nation.
00:05:15.040 The Big Beautiful Bill
00:05:16.080 also delivers on one other
00:05:18.260 very important issue.
00:05:20.540 It provides a whopping
00:05:21.920 $60 billion
00:05:22.920 in supplemental spending
00:05:24.480 over the course of four years
00:05:25.660 to increase the border patrol.
00:05:28.460 That means physical barriers,
00:05:30.220 which is about another $46.5 billion,
00:05:32.320 to build the border wall,
00:05:33.600 and thousands of new
00:05:35.100 border patrol agents.
00:05:37.020 It's not enough
00:05:37.800 just to seal our border now.
00:05:39.540 It must remain sealed.
00:05:41.660 Musk, through his continuing
00:05:43.760 badgering about the Big Beautiful Bill,
00:05:46.620 seems to be missing
00:05:47.340 the forest for the trees,
00:05:48.420 in my opinion.
00:05:49.540 It is very clear to me also
00:05:52.060 that those who say
00:05:54.420 that the bill does not cut
00:05:56.560 Social Security
00:05:57.320 are incorrect.
00:05:58.780 One of the most important,
00:06:01.520 pardon me,
00:06:02.300 those who say
00:06:02.780 it does cut Social Security
00:06:03.780 are incorrect.
00:06:05.580 One of the most beneficial effects
00:06:07.060 of the passage
00:06:07.740 of the Big Beautiful Bill
00:06:08.660 is reducing the taxes
00:06:10.100 on Social Security.
00:06:11.660 Because of a provision
00:06:12.960 in the bill,
00:06:13.700 88% of all seniors
00:06:15.820 who receive
00:06:17.520 Social Security benefits today
00:06:19.060 will pay no taxes
00:06:20.600 on their Social Security benefits.
00:06:22.820 This will be a lifesaver
00:06:24.240 for anyone living
00:06:25.120 on a fixed income,
00:06:26.020 will certainly not be forgotten
00:06:27.780 during next year's midterms.
00:06:29.800 It's simply smart politics
00:06:31.520 all the way around.
00:06:33.200 This Big Beautiful Bill provision
00:06:35.480 also flies in the face
00:06:36.960 of what the Democrats
00:06:38.160 have said about Social Security.
00:06:39.780 They've claimed for years
00:06:40.780 that it's Republicans
00:06:41.860 who were after
00:06:42.880 their Social Security benefits
00:06:44.080 and wanted to destroy
00:06:45.720 that popular program.
00:06:48.220 President Trump
00:06:48.840 is turning the Republican Party
00:06:50.260 into the American First Party
00:06:52.060 of the working families
00:06:53.760 of this country.
00:06:54.480 It's abundantly clear
00:06:56.020 that cutting Social Security
00:06:57.480 is off the table
00:06:58.900 as long as he is
00:07:00.480 President of the United States.
00:07:02.200 But if you look at the record,
00:07:03.180 it's actually Democrats
00:07:04.100 who have waged war
00:07:05.200 against Social Security
00:07:06.020 over the years.
00:07:07.040 It was Democrats
00:07:07.780 who first moved
00:07:08.620 Social Security funds
00:07:09.640 from a private trust fund
00:07:11.180 to public funds.
00:07:11.980 That was under
00:07:12.560 Lyndon Baines Johnson.
00:07:14.540 It was Democrats
00:07:15.740 who allowed fiscally
00:07:17.060 reckless members of Congress
00:07:18.400 to pilfer our Social Security funds
00:07:20.560 and spend it on other things.
00:07:22.080 It was Democrats
00:07:23.200 who outlawed tax deductions
00:07:24.980 for Social Security payments.
00:07:26.880 We're now getting that
00:07:27.760 in the Big Beautiful Bill.
00:07:29.180 It was Democrats
00:07:30.040 who initiated the taxing
00:07:31.500 of Social Security payments
00:07:32.860 to begin with.
00:07:34.140 It was Democrats
00:07:34.840 who have not given
00:07:35.620 any adequate increase
00:07:37.300 in Social Security
00:07:38.060 over the last eight years.
00:07:40.040 And of course,
00:07:40.820 it was Democrats
00:07:41.780 who opened up
00:07:42.760 Social Security money
00:07:43.580 for illegal immigrants
00:07:44.520 to subsidize
00:07:45.940 the demographic overthrow
00:07:47.500 of America.
00:07:48.960 The Big Beautiful Bill
00:07:49.940 has driven a stake
00:07:50.920 through the heart
00:07:51.540 of the common
00:07:52.700 Democrat narrative
00:07:53.860 that it's Republicans
00:07:54.720 who are after Social Security.
00:07:56.420 Republicans,
00:07:56.920 especially those
00:07:57.520 who are closely aligned
00:07:58.360 with President Trump,
00:07:59.500 are fighting to protect
00:08:00.820 Social Security
00:08:01.460 while Democrats
00:08:02.100 play political games
00:08:03.280 and make claims
00:08:04.620 about the Big Beautiful Bill
00:08:05.840 and Social Security
00:08:06.620 that are just not so.
00:08:09.300 Meanwhile,
00:08:10.100 Health and Homeland Security
00:08:11.440 Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:08:13.720 said yesterday
00:08:14.700 that he had
00:08:16.580 a major autism bombshell
00:08:18.480 that will no doubt
00:08:20.040 cause huge headaches
00:08:21.260 for big pharma spin doctors.
00:08:23.340 Robert Kennedy stated
00:08:24.400 that the Center
00:08:25.480 for Disease Control
00:08:26.540 and Prevention
00:08:27.160 suppressed a scientific study
00:08:29.420 from 1999
00:08:30.420 that demonstrated
00:08:31.660 an incredible
00:08:33.200 1,135% risk,
00:08:37.120 elevated risk
00:08:37.940 among children
00:08:38.660 who received
00:08:39.880 the hepatitis B vaccination
00:08:42.140 shortly after birth
00:08:43.980 versus those
00:08:44.860 who received
00:08:45.480 received the shot later
00:08:46.900 or not at all.
00:08:49.080 That was far
00:08:50.240 from the only
00:08:51.260 startling claim
00:08:52.300 that RFK made
00:08:53.180 while speaking recently.
00:08:55.540 He referenced
00:08:56.000 a published article
00:08:56.880 indicating that
00:08:57.580 50% of revenues
00:08:59.260 to most pediatricians
00:09:00.760 come from
00:09:01.780 vaccination companies.
00:09:03.480 Additionally,
00:09:04.320 Robert Kennedy Jr.
00:09:05.300 said that insurance companies
00:09:06.620 pay bonuses
00:09:07.860 to doctors
00:09:08.860 to enforce compliance
00:09:10.080 with vaccination standards
00:09:11.820 dictated by
00:09:12.740 the public health industry.
00:09:14.660 RFK is describing
00:09:16.560 a medical system
00:09:17.660 has become
00:09:18.160 frighteningly detached,
00:09:19.840 in my opinion,
00:09:20.620 from what's best
00:09:21.620 for the people.
00:09:22.860 Financial incentives
00:09:23.960 are built around
00:09:24.940 encouraging compliance
00:09:26.460 and respect
00:09:27.380 for the individual patient
00:09:28.560 as being completely
00:09:29.500 lost in the process.
00:09:31.760 This is seen
00:09:32.640 most frighteningly
00:09:33.400 during the COVID-19 pandemic
00:09:34.880 when the public's fear
00:09:35.800 was weaponized
00:09:36.540 to shut down society
00:09:38.300 as big pharma's profits
00:09:39.600 swelled
00:09:40.660 recording directly
00:09:42.120 from the increase
00:09:43.440 in human misery.
00:09:44.660 For years,
00:09:46.000 Big Pharma
00:09:46.540 and its advocates
00:09:47.760 have aggressively
00:09:48.500 demonized anyone
00:09:49.720 who suggested
00:09:50.980 that there might be
00:09:51.940 a link between
00:09:52.620 vaccinations and autism.
00:09:54.640 This has been
00:09:55.320 a third rail
00:09:56.220 that only fringe voices
00:09:57.760 have been willing
00:09:58.460 to broach.
00:09:59.460 The jury is still out
00:10:00.500 with regards
00:10:01.060 to the evidence,
00:10:01.900 but Robert F. Kennedy
00:10:02.660 is unafraid
00:10:03.300 to ask the questions
00:10:04.300 and as President Trump
00:10:05.780 has said,
00:10:07.040 where is the harm
00:10:08.180 in asking
00:10:08.800 legitimate questions?
00:10:11.140 He and RFK
00:10:12.580 are digging
00:10:13.240 for the truth.
00:10:14.560 It's the first time
00:10:15.180 we've ever seen that
00:10:16.100 from a public health
00:10:17.060 official in generations
00:10:18.040 or actually perhaps
00:10:19.420 as long as I have lived.
00:10:21.100 It's clear to me
00:10:21.880 by now
00:10:22.480 that RFK Jr.
00:10:23.960 talks
00:10:24.340 and because of his
00:10:25.040 bold actions
00:10:25.760 as the Secretary
00:10:27.600 of Health
00:10:28.100 and Human Services,
00:10:29.480 he is far
00:10:30.460 from compromise.
00:10:32.000 This is a man
00:10:32.660 who takes his role
00:10:33.540 as a public servant
00:10:34.440 very seriously.
00:10:36.260 I knew
00:10:36.920 and was friendly
00:10:37.500 with Robert Kennedy
00:10:38.280 before he ran
00:10:39.080 for President.
00:10:39.960 Didn't know him
00:10:40.560 nearly as well
00:10:41.120 as I know Donald Trump,
00:10:42.600 but I've always admired
00:10:43.840 the fact that
00:10:44.560 in any public forum,
00:10:46.280 whether a panel
00:10:47.100 or a debate
00:10:47.880 or an interview,
00:10:49.000 I've never seen him
00:10:49.980 put forward a fact
00:10:51.260 that he could not
00:10:52.300 back up with
00:10:53.040 a relevant,
00:10:54.660 legitimate study
00:10:55.760 or test.
00:10:57.540 And for that,
00:10:58.460 I have enormous
00:10:59.120 respect for him.
00:11:00.220 I think he's on the cusp
00:11:01.160 of realizing
00:11:02.260 his life's work
00:11:03.160 and the American people
00:11:03.980 will be immeasurably
00:11:05.420 better off
00:11:06.060 if he succeeds
00:11:06.900 in cleaning up
00:11:07.680 the institutional rot
00:11:09.740 in our federal
00:11:10.760 health bureaucracy.
00:11:12.400 Robert F. Kennedy
00:11:13.100 may very well
00:11:13.880 have been
00:11:14.300 President Trump's
00:11:15.600 wisest cabinet pick,
00:11:17.460 although that's
00:11:18.580 quite a contest
00:11:19.520 because I think
00:11:20.080 Secretary of State
00:11:20.900 Marco Rubio
00:11:21.680 is doing an amazing job.
00:11:23.320 I also think
00:11:24.060 obviously very highly
00:11:25.120 of Director of National
00:11:26.260 Intelligence
00:11:27.720 Tulsi Gabbard.
00:11:29.140 This is an
00:11:30.080 all-star cabinet.
00:11:32.320 Meanwhile,
00:11:32.960 Paramount Global,
00:11:34.000 the parent company
00:11:34.760 of CBS News,
00:11:35.960 has agreed to pay
00:11:36.920 President Donald Trump
00:11:38.260 over $30 million
00:11:39.260 to settle
00:11:40.220 an election
00:11:40.840 interference lawsuit
00:11:42.440 that Trump filed
00:11:43.180 against the network.
00:11:44.560 Trump will receive
00:11:45.540 an initial $16 million
00:11:47.020 initially
00:11:47.580 based on the judgment.
00:11:49.500 There's expected
00:11:49.860 to be an additional
00:11:50.660 $15 million
00:11:51.420 set aside
00:11:52.700 for advertisements,
00:11:54.500 public service
00:11:55.460 announcements,
00:11:56.060 and other content
00:11:56.780 that would be
00:11:57.220 in support of
00:11:58.000 conservative,
00:11:59.200 pro-Trump causes
00:12:00.160 in the future.
00:12:01.260 Trump filed
00:12:02.260 the law salute
00:12:03.080 last year
00:12:03.720 after CBS
00:12:04.420 heavily edited
00:12:05.880 an interview
00:12:06.500 with former
00:12:07.040 Vice President
00:12:07.620 Kamala Harris.
00:12:08.940 It was a kind
00:12:09.640 of a ham-handed
00:12:10.580 attempt to sway
00:12:11.480 votes in the lead-up
00:12:13.620 to last year's
00:12:14.540 presidential election.
00:12:16.320 In the aftermath
00:12:17.200 of the settlement,
00:12:18.060 CBS will be changing
00:12:19.160 their editorial standards
00:12:20.540 to where they will be
00:12:21.940 editing unaltered
00:12:23.300 transcripts
00:12:23.940 of interviews
00:12:24.460 with presidential candidates
00:12:26.940 from now on.
00:12:28.500 This rule,
00:12:29.320 informally dubbed
00:12:30.180 the Trump rule,
00:12:31.980 will create
00:12:32.500 additional transparency
00:12:33.880 in the media coverage
00:12:35.420 of future
00:12:36.200 presidential elections.
00:12:38.180 President Trump
00:12:38.860 has gone on the offense
00:12:40.600 to level the playing field
00:12:41.900 when it comes to
00:12:42.700 the mainstream media.
00:12:44.420 Contrary to cries
00:12:45.260 from the Democrats,
00:12:46.460 Trump's lawsuit
00:12:47.080 actually enhances
00:12:48.300 media fairness
00:12:49.320 and accountability.
00:12:51.240 The public will get
00:12:52.320 full interviews
00:12:53.160 rather than spin
00:12:54.040 doctor versions
00:12:54.960 of what the network
00:12:56.600 wants it to be.
00:12:57.620 The fake news media's
00:12:58.600 ability to play gatekeeper
00:13:00.260 has taken a major hit
00:13:01.820 with this settlement.
00:13:03.660 I think it is good news
00:13:05.040 for our entire
00:13:06.820 political system.
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00:14:26.700 Well, here we go again.
00:14:28.720 Yet another federal judge
00:14:30.120 has intervened in order
00:14:31.400 to impede President Trump's ability
00:14:33.820 to conduct immigration policy,
00:14:35.620 this time stepping in
00:14:37.220 to protect the temporary
00:14:38.500 legal status of Haitians
00:14:40.660 who are in the United States
00:14:42.140 illegally.
00:14:42.900 New York District Court Judge
00:14:44.480 Brian M. Kogan,
00:14:46.180 an appointee of President George W. Bush,
00:14:49.500 issued a ruling
00:14:50.120 that stated that
00:14:50.640 Trump's administration's decision
00:14:52.560 to cancel the temporary
00:14:53.860 protected status of Haitians
00:14:55.960 five months earlier
00:14:56.960 than anticipated was unlawful.
00:14:59.880 The Biden administration
00:15:00.840 has given these Haitians
00:15:03.020 additional protections
00:15:04.080 after they declared
00:15:05.520 that it was necessary
00:15:06.440 because of growing dangers
00:15:08.340 in the country.
00:15:09.460 The Trump administration
00:15:10.260 disagreed
00:15:10.980 and overruled
00:15:12.280 the Biden-era decision,
00:15:13.920 arguing that the political situation
00:15:15.760 has improved enough in Haiti
00:15:17.080 for these people
00:15:18.140 to be sent back to their home.
00:15:20.320 But Judge Kogan
00:15:21.320 apparently believes
00:15:22.340 that Biden's policies
00:15:23.480 cannot be reversed
00:15:24.760 by President Trump
00:15:25.680 and our nation
00:15:26.840 is now essentially
00:15:27.960 being held hostage to him.
00:15:30.020 The Supreme Court
00:15:30.680 may need once again
00:15:31.860 to intervene
00:15:32.980 as they did
00:15:33.720 in the case of
00:15:34.420 350,000 Venezuelans
00:15:36.900 who sued to stay
00:15:38.340 in the United States.
00:15:39.700 The U.S. Supreme Court
00:15:41.140 nullified a ruling
00:15:42.760 by a leftist activist judge
00:15:44.980 in the junkies' paradise
00:15:46.920 of San Francisco
00:15:48.300 that keeps the TPS,
00:15:50.880 the temporary status
00:15:52.380 of these Venezuelans
00:15:53.760 in the United States.
00:15:55.020 The Trump administration
00:15:55.760 said the Biden regime
00:15:57.600 exploited programs
00:15:58.760 to let poorly vetted migrants
00:16:01.040 into this country
00:16:01.920 and they rightfully
00:16:03.100 must overturn
00:16:03.980 these Biden-era abuses
00:16:05.480 that empower illegals
00:16:06.800 and they make our country
00:16:08.420 less safe.
00:16:10.160 Lower-level judges
00:16:11.340 have proven to be
00:16:12.660 a menace
00:16:13.260 when it comes to
00:16:13.920 abusing their authority
00:16:15.440 to impede the mandate
00:16:17.140 that President Trump
00:16:18.020 won in the last election.
00:16:20.340 It's clear to me
00:16:21.120 they've become
00:16:21.800 some of the most
00:16:22.400 overreaching,
00:16:23.260 arrogant,
00:16:23.760 and power-hungry people
00:16:25.220 currently serving
00:16:26.200 in government.
00:16:26.880 Perhaps it's time
00:16:27.800 to ignore their rulings.
00:16:29.200 To paraphrase
00:16:29.880 one of the greatest presidents
00:16:30.920 ever,
00:16:31.340 President Andrew Jackson,
00:16:32.660 the courts have now
00:16:33.540 made their rulings
00:16:34.360 and let them come
00:16:35.260 and try to enforce it.
00:16:37.060 I'm not a lawyer,
00:16:38.420 but I do recognize
00:16:40.660 the Andrew Jackson precedent.
00:16:43.780 Joining us on the other side
00:16:46.320 will be William J. Bill Pulte.
00:16:49.580 He is the director
00:16:51.380 of the U.S. Federal Housing
00:16:53.480 Administration,
00:16:55.220 also known as
00:16:55.820 the Federal Housing
00:16:56.520 and Financing Agency.
00:16:58.260 He's also the chairman
00:16:59.240 of Fannie Mae
00:17:00.360 and Freddie Mac,
00:17:01.600 the two housing powerhouses
00:17:03.620 that fund mortgages
00:17:05.200 for the American people.
00:17:06.700 Pulte is all over
00:17:08.340 the news today
00:17:09.240 because he has been
00:17:10.960 calling on
00:17:11.800 Federal Reserve Chairman
00:17:13.020 Jerome Powell
00:17:14.440 to cut interest rates
00:17:15.920 since the inflation rate
00:17:18.540 and the unemployment rate
00:17:19.880 are both lower
00:17:21.120 than the last time
00:17:22.380 the Fed cut rates
00:17:24.120 just before the 2024 election.
00:17:27.340 In that case,
00:17:27.920 to benefit Joe Biden,
00:17:29.380 I believe,
00:17:29.980 but they refused
00:17:30.920 to cut rates today.
00:17:32.080 But now Pulte is calling
00:17:33.840 for a congressional investigation
00:17:35.320 into Federal Reserve
00:17:36.940 Chairman Jerome Powell
00:17:38.280 because it appears
00:17:39.240 that Powell has lied
00:17:41.400 under oath to Congress
00:17:42.960 about a $2.5 billion
00:17:45.600 renovation
00:17:46.480 of the palatial headquarters
00:17:49.060 of the Federal Reserve
00:17:50.540 in Washington, D.C.
00:17:52.540 Yes, it's shocking
00:17:54.080 and Bill Pulte himself
00:17:55.360 will be joining us
00:17:56.180 shortly in the Stone Zone
00:17:57.680 to break this all down.
00:17:58.900 So whatever you do,
00:18:00.040 stay tuned to The Zone.
00:18:02.060 I'm Roger Stone.
00:18:03.080 We'll be right back
00:18:03.920 with Director Pulte
00:18:05.500 and this bombshell story.
00:18:07.740 This is The Stone Zone
00:18:09.500 with Roger Stone.
00:18:20.080 I'm not just stepping stone.
00:18:23.340 The Stone Zone
00:18:24.760 on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:18:28.900 Welcome back.
00:18:31.340 We're back in The Stone Zone.
00:18:33.100 Today's New York Post reports
00:18:35.380 that the Federal Housing
00:18:36.880 Finance Agency Director
00:18:39.540 Bill Pulte
00:18:40.680 has called on Congress
00:18:43.500 to investigate
00:18:44.360 whether Federal Reserve Chairman
00:18:46.600 Jerome Powell
00:18:48.140 misled lawmakers
00:18:50.000 in his testimony
00:18:51.580 regarding a lavish
00:18:53.960 $2.5 billion revamp
00:18:57.180 of the Federal Reserve's
00:18:59.620 palatial D.C. headquarters.
00:19:02.540 Pulte has been a sharp critic
00:19:04.800 of Chairman Powell
00:19:06.260 pointing out
00:19:07.520 that despite the fact
00:19:08.680 that both inflation
00:19:10.260 and unemployment
00:19:11.540 are lower today
00:19:13.440 than when the Federal Reserve
00:19:14.880 last cut interest rates,
00:19:17.660 Powell has stoutly refused
00:19:19.940 to cut interest rates
00:19:21.680 on the American people.
00:19:23.060 Joining us now
00:19:23.900 is a man
00:19:24.680 who's all over
00:19:25.540 the news today.
00:19:26.840 He is the fifth
00:19:28.160 director of the
00:19:29.400 U.S. Federal Housing Agency.
00:19:31.580 In that position,
00:19:32.880 he also oversees
00:19:34.220 and serves as chairman
00:19:35.700 of both Fannie Mae
00:19:37.340 and Freddie Mac,
00:19:38.520 the two principal
00:19:40.020 mortgage vehicles
00:19:41.240 for the federal government,
00:19:42.460 as well as overseeing
00:19:44.120 the Federal Home Loan Banks.
00:19:46.060 Bill Pulte,
00:19:46.880 welcome in
00:19:47.740 to The Stone Zone.
00:19:49.060 Thank you, Roger.
00:19:50.240 Always good to be with you.
00:19:51.300 What a crazy day, huh?
00:19:52.860 It really is.
00:19:53.880 You've raised
00:19:54.340 some very serious questions here.
00:19:56.900 You've called
00:19:57.620 for a congressional investigation.
00:19:59.380 Break this down for us,
00:20:00.440 if you will.
00:20:01.840 Well, I really haven't heard
00:20:03.060 from a lot of people
00:20:03.860 that I heard from today
00:20:05.100 in a long time.
00:20:06.380 I mean, it's everywhere,
00:20:07.660 and I think that it really
00:20:09.500 strikes a chord
00:20:10.180 with people, Roger.
00:20:11.200 I don't think it's really
00:20:12.080 about what I did
00:20:13.660 or President Trump
00:20:14.860 or yourself
00:20:15.480 or anyone else
00:20:16.360 in this world.
00:20:17.000 I think it really has to do
00:20:18.160 with Jerome Powell
00:20:19.520 and his actions.
00:20:20.200 You know, we had to deal
00:20:20.960 with this guy
00:20:21.540 all throughout COVID,
00:20:23.240 as you remember.
00:20:24.680 Everybody's so used
00:20:25.500 to seeing this guy
00:20:26.180 on TV during COVID,
00:20:28.260 and now he's still here,
00:20:29.720 but, you know,
00:20:30.620 he's out there doing
00:20:31.460 a $2.5 billion renovation
00:20:33.080 on a building,
00:20:33.980 which, you know,
00:20:34.840 I know a lot
00:20:35.380 about construction, Roger.
00:20:36.920 It would be very hard
00:20:38.220 for me to spend
00:20:38.860 $2.5 billion
00:20:39.640 on a renovation,
00:20:41.540 just to be frank.
00:20:42.520 And then on top of it
00:20:44.620 is he's sitting there
00:20:45.880 and not lowering interest rates
00:20:47.480 despite inflation being lower.
00:20:49.280 So the whole thing
00:20:50.620 stinks to high heaven,
00:20:52.220 and we're going to get
00:20:53.840 to the bottom of it.
00:20:55.400 Yeah, I mean,
00:20:56.200 it's really shocking.
00:20:57.560 He won't cut interest rates
00:20:59.480 despite the fact
00:21:00.540 that today
00:21:01.580 both inflation
00:21:02.920 and unemployment
00:21:03.940 are lower
00:21:04.800 than the last time
00:21:06.460 the Federal Reserve
00:21:07.540 cut interest rates
00:21:08.700 ahead of the 2024 elections.
00:21:13.120 Very clearly
00:21:13.960 a political move
00:21:14.860 designed to try
00:21:15.700 to help Joe Biden.
00:21:17.120 That didn't work out
00:21:18.440 so well.
00:21:19.560 But his whole
00:21:20.440 let him eat,
00:21:21.500 take mentality
00:21:22.920 is really offensive.
00:21:24.400 He said before Congress
00:21:25.920 that this $2.5 billion
00:21:29.520 renovation
00:21:30.960 of the Federal Reserve's
00:21:33.580 incredibly palatial headquarters,
00:21:36.560 he specifically said
00:21:38.000 there is no VIP dining room,
00:21:40.220 there is no new marble,
00:21:42.240 there are no special elevators,
00:21:45.120 there are no new water features,
00:21:47.720 there's no beehives,
00:21:49.120 there's no roof terrace gardens,
00:21:52.060 and none of that
00:21:54.040 turns out to be true.
00:21:55.160 According to the plan
00:21:56.160 approved by the government,
00:21:58.580 pen pushers,
00:22:00.300 their private dining room
00:22:01.960 on level four
00:22:03.140 is being completely restored,
00:22:05.140 that there is
00:22:05.880 a new private elevator
00:22:08.060 for the use
00:22:09.100 of the Fed governors
00:22:10.600 that will discharge them
00:22:12.560 at the dining suite level.
00:22:14.440 The document expressly mentions
00:22:16.320 a vegetated roof garden
00:22:18.980 with urban wildlife
00:22:21.380 and a spectacular view
00:22:24.400 of D.C. skyline
00:22:26.240 as well as new water
00:22:28.800 and marble features.
00:22:30.520 So it appears to me
00:22:32.740 that he lied
00:22:34.560 and he lied
00:22:35.340 on a material matter.
00:22:37.080 I was once accused
00:22:37.920 of lying to Congress,
00:22:39.320 but I had no motive to lie
00:22:40.940 and no misstatement
00:22:42.040 I made to Congress
00:22:43.100 covered any underlying crime,
00:22:45.620 nor was it material
00:22:46.680 to Russian collusion
00:22:47.780 because there was
00:22:49.220 no Russian collusion.
00:22:50.840 In this case,
00:22:51.580 there is a $2.5 billion plan.
00:22:55.460 While the American people
00:22:56.940 are struggling,
00:22:58.160 struggling certainly
00:22:59.020 to buy a home
00:23:00.120 or to buy a car,
00:23:02.500 I don't know
00:23:03.500 how he justifies
00:23:04.620 his position
00:23:05.380 other than to say
00:23:06.500 tariffs,
00:23:07.580 which is not much
00:23:08.680 of an answer.
00:23:10.820 Well, he's got real problems
00:23:12.540 and he's going to continue
00:23:14.220 to have real problems
00:23:15.240 because, you know,
00:23:16.260 people look the other way
00:23:17.260 for a long period of time.
00:23:18.640 We had COVID.
00:23:19.860 We had all these different things
00:23:21.460 going on in our economy.
00:23:22.940 But when you start
00:23:24.060 messing with people's money
00:23:25.320 for no reason whatsoever,
00:23:26.780 which is what he's doing
00:23:28.220 in my opinion,
00:23:28.980 I think that it's just
00:23:30.660 a matter of time
00:23:31.380 before this gets worse
00:23:32.460 for him.
00:23:33.300 And I wouldn't be surprised
00:23:34.720 to see there be investigations.
00:23:36.840 And, you know,
00:23:37.560 we'll see where it goes
00:23:38.300 from there, Roger.
00:23:39.100 But, you know,
00:23:39.880 this is a cautionary tale
00:23:41.240 for, frankly,
00:23:42.420 for me and for other people
00:23:43.780 who serve in government,
00:23:45.120 but also people
00:23:46.140 who, frankly,
00:23:47.380 make money
00:23:48.040 and become wealthy.
00:23:49.540 You just can never
00:23:50.800 become detached
00:23:52.060 from reality
00:23:53.340 like it appears
00:23:54.280 Jerome Powell has become
00:23:55.800 because, you know,
00:23:57.680 you sit there
00:23:58.220 and you think to yourself,
00:23:59.700 you know,
00:23:59.900 President Trump
00:24:00.520 called him a stubborn mule.
00:24:02.120 And you sit there
00:24:03.020 and you think to yourself,
00:24:03.920 this just doesn't seem right.
00:24:05.460 How could somebody
00:24:06.140 think like this?
00:24:07.380 And honestly, Roger,
00:24:09.220 I think that Jerome Powell
00:24:10.560 has created his own reality
00:24:12.180 where he somehow thinks
00:24:14.020 that it's fine
00:24:14.900 that he has created
00:24:16.200 this two and a half
00:24:16.880 billion dollar renovation
00:24:17.900 and that he hasn't
00:24:19.140 lowered interest rates.
00:24:20.720 And I don't know
00:24:21.160 what reality that is,
00:24:23.060 but it's certainly not one
00:24:24.340 that I would ever
00:24:24.940 want to live in.
00:24:26.120 You know,
00:24:26.480 the excuse he gives
00:24:27.940 is tariffs.
00:24:29.480 He and many
00:24:31.000 in the economics
00:24:32.340 establishment
00:24:32.980 have been conditioned
00:24:34.040 to treat tariffs
00:24:34.940 as inherently harmful.
00:24:37.000 I think that's false.
00:24:38.820 Here's the truth.
00:24:40.000 Tariffs are one
00:24:40.820 of the few forms
00:24:41.600 of taxation
00:24:42.300 that actually preserve
00:24:43.600 a government's
00:24:44.660 accountability
00:24:45.140 to its citizens.
00:24:46.300 Tariffs tie
00:24:47.800 state revenue
00:24:48.740 to national production
00:24:50.160 and trade policy.
00:24:51.880 Tariffs will allow
00:24:52.900 citizens to remain
00:24:54.000 sovereigns of the government
00:24:55.240 and income
00:24:56.440 and even consumption
00:24:57.400 taxes subjugate.
00:24:59.140 I think it is
00:25:00.620 a phony argument,
00:25:02.740 but the arrogance here,
00:25:05.260 the politicization
00:25:06.340 is kind of obvious.
00:25:08.480 He is also,
00:25:09.840 as we've had
00:25:10.920 Barry Habib,
00:25:11.840 the housing
00:25:12.540 and mortgage guru
00:25:14.800 on the show,
00:25:16.660 Powell stubbornly
00:25:17.860 insists that he doesn't
00:25:19.020 have the data
00:25:20.280 to justify
00:25:21.800 an interest rate cut.
00:25:23.900 You look at the data,
00:25:25.020 I mean,
00:25:25.280 it's like Barry points out,
00:25:26.940 you know,
00:25:27.160 1.6%
00:25:28.260 is the annualized
00:25:29.580 CPI number.
00:25:30.860 And that literally
00:25:31.600 tells you what prices are.
00:25:33.320 And you're running
00:25:34.340 at 1.6%,
00:25:35.660 but your interest rate
00:25:36.760 is 4.5%.
00:25:37.800 I mean,
00:25:38.480 anybody with a napkin
00:25:39.860 can figure out
00:25:40.640 that that's
00:25:41.180 2% to 3%
00:25:42.340 way too high.
00:25:43.900 And I personally
00:25:44.660 believe that
00:25:46.740 Jerome Powell
00:25:47.680 is purposely doing this
00:25:49.000 because he hates
00:25:49.680 the president
00:25:50.280 and because he wants
00:25:51.920 to hurt the president.
00:25:53.240 And it's very sad
00:25:54.160 because Jerome Powell
00:25:55.100 is actually hurting
00:25:55.840 the American people.
00:25:57.000 You know,
00:25:57.200 President Trump
00:25:57.720 is very tough,
00:25:58.760 but a lot of American
00:25:59.780 people have these
00:26:00.800 interest expenses.
00:26:02.220 And so when you have,
00:26:03.060 you know,
00:26:03.520 CPI trailing it,
00:26:05.000 you know,
00:26:05.440 let's call it 1.6%
00:26:06.900 on a run rate basis,
00:26:08.720 you apply it over
00:26:09.600 a yearly period,
00:26:11.140 and then you've got
00:26:11.740 these interest rates
00:26:12.560 at 4.5%.
00:26:13.560 That's enough
00:26:14.680 to do substantial
00:26:15.580 damage to the economy.
00:26:17.740 And I think it's,
00:26:19.580 as I said,
00:26:20.040 I think it's going
00:26:20.520 to get worse,
00:26:21.060 and I think the data
00:26:21.760 is going to continue
00:26:22.560 to prove out
00:26:23.260 to be true
00:26:24.360 that he is doing this
00:26:25.860 with willful,
00:26:27.040 willful intent.
00:26:28.580 Yeah,
00:26:29.020 I mean,
00:26:29.240 looking at your statement,
00:26:30.780 it was interesting.
00:26:31.960 You not only pointed out
00:26:33.620 that he may have
00:26:34.280 dissembled
00:26:35.000 before Congress,
00:26:36.200 but you also
00:26:37.180 suggested that
00:26:38.620 the Congress
00:26:39.120 investigate
00:26:39.760 his
00:26:40.720 political bias.
00:26:42.200 I mean,
00:26:43.140 I think they have
00:26:43.760 the authority
00:26:44.260 to do that.
00:26:44.920 I've been through this.
00:26:46.480 They certainly
00:26:47.180 had no problem
00:26:48.000 subpoenaing
00:26:48.780 my email messages,
00:26:50.340 my text messages,
00:26:51.840 tracking all
00:26:52.460 of my phone calls.
00:26:53.460 By the way,
00:26:53.820 they found no evidence
00:26:54.740 of Russian collusion
00:26:56.100 or WikiLeaks collaboration,
00:26:57.740 despite what
00:26:58.820 some in the media
00:27:00.080 had reported.
00:27:01.280 Why could they not
00:27:02.400 subpoena
00:27:03.060 Jerome Powell's
00:27:04.480 emails
00:27:05.120 and text messages
00:27:06.100 for evidence
00:27:07.480 of political bias?
00:27:09.620 I think that would
00:27:10.360 be perfectly reasonable.
00:27:12.200 I think there'll be
00:27:12.960 a lot more coming out,
00:27:14.060 Roger.
00:27:14.460 I spoke with some
00:27:15.260 U.S. senators today,
00:27:16.480 and I think you also
00:27:17.840 saw that one
00:27:18.700 Senator,
00:27:19.560 Senator Lummis
00:27:21.120 texted,
00:27:22.100 or not texted,
00:27:22.920 tweeted the article
00:27:24.780 or tweeted the
00:27:26.040 quote retweet,
00:27:27.000 let's call it,
00:27:27.940 my tweet about
00:27:29.240 saying that Congress
00:27:30.580 should investigate.
00:27:31.560 So I think a lot more
00:27:33.040 will come out,
00:27:33.940 and if Senator Lummis'
00:27:35.900 tweet is any indication
00:27:37.040 that people are watching,
00:27:38.720 I wouldn't be surprised
00:27:39.620 to see Congress
00:27:40.400 pick this up
00:27:41.120 and pick it up real quick.
00:27:42.600 Bill,
00:27:43.140 I want to ask you
00:27:44.220 about the importance
00:27:45.080 of the big,
00:27:45.840 beautiful bill.
00:27:46.700 Seems to be inching
00:27:48.000 closer and closer
00:27:49.080 to being reality.
00:27:51.120 Earlier in the show,
00:27:52.420 we doused a lot
00:27:53.600 of the disinformation
00:27:55.420 about the bill.
00:27:56.740 It will,
00:27:57.220 in fact,
00:27:58.060 eliminate taxes
00:27:59.360 on Social Security
00:28:00.660 for 88%
00:28:02.380 of Americans.
00:28:04.060 There are those
00:28:05.080 out there saying,
00:28:05.760 no,
00:28:05.880 it doesn't do that.
00:28:06.720 It does do that.
00:28:07.620 it could not be
00:28:09.140 completely eliminated
00:28:10.140 for structural reasons,
00:28:12.620 but there is
00:28:13.940 language in there
00:28:15.280 that has the effect
00:28:16.700 of doing away
00:28:17.660 with a complete
00:28:18.500 tax break
00:28:19.980 on 88%
00:28:21.640 of seniors.
00:28:23.660 Tell us about
00:28:24.760 how important
00:28:25.620 this bill is,
00:28:26.680 because I think
00:28:27.280 a lot of people
00:28:28.680 are buying into
00:28:29.640 the disinformation.
00:28:30.580 It's incredibly
00:28:32.900 important,
00:28:34.020 Roger.
00:28:34.340 I think it'll be
00:28:34.780 one of the hallmarks
00:28:35.580 of President Trump's
00:28:36.960 term.
00:28:37.520 I think that
00:28:38.300 this will actually
00:28:39.880 set off the golden age.
00:28:41.500 You know,
00:28:41.620 I've talked a long time
00:28:42.580 about how there's
00:28:43.320 going to be a housing
00:28:43.940 boom in this country,
00:28:44.900 and you know how I feel
00:28:46.460 about what Jerome Powell
00:28:47.640 is doing to stunt
00:28:48.900 that housing boom.
00:28:50.740 But I actually think
00:28:51.600 that the big,
00:28:52.260 beautiful bill
00:28:52.840 will be the gasoline,
00:28:54.820 so to speak,
00:28:55.380 that will start
00:28:56.300 the fire
00:28:57.240 in a good way,
00:28:58.200 which is the housing boom.
00:28:59.420 And you look at
00:29:00.920 what's happening
00:29:01.480 right now in the country,
00:29:02.420 you have four years
00:29:03.360 of inflation
00:29:03.980 that have just
00:29:04.640 robbed Americans
00:29:06.020 of their savings,
00:29:07.520 robbed Americans
00:29:08.320 of their earning potential,
00:29:10.080 meaning nobody's been
00:29:11.300 able to really grow
00:29:12.140 their earnings
00:29:12.720 on an inflation-adjusted
00:29:14.040 standpoint.
00:29:14.920 So I think that this
00:29:15.900 is going to be
00:29:16.460 really a home run.
00:29:17.920 And you know,
00:29:18.380 this isn't investment
00:29:19.240 advice, Roger,
00:29:20.060 but I think that
00:29:20.720 the stock market
00:29:21.620 will boom.
00:29:23.340 I truly,
00:29:24.220 truly believe that.
00:29:26.400 The president
00:29:27.360 has spoken
00:29:28.720 about the possibility
00:29:30.080 of taking
00:29:30.920 Fannie Mae
00:29:31.860 and Freddie Mac,
00:29:33.340 the two housing
00:29:34.840 mortgage giants,
00:29:36.460 private.
00:29:38.420 It's a decision
00:29:39.360 he'll make down the road,
00:29:40.680 but I also noticed
00:29:41.580 that he very quickly
00:29:42.920 said whether he does
00:29:44.160 that or not,
00:29:44.820 we don't know
00:29:45.340 whether he's going
00:29:45.820 to do it,
00:29:46.340 he's still considering it,
00:29:48.180 the federal government
00:29:49.340 would continue
00:29:50.040 to guarantee mortgages
00:29:51.720 so there'd be
00:29:52.560 no damage,
00:29:53.580 no deterioration
00:29:55.220 among housing bonds.
00:29:56.740 I think it is
00:29:57.680 an innovative idea.
00:30:00.200 I salute the president
00:30:01.240 because he is
00:30:02.540 an outside-the-box thinker
00:30:04.020 and he views everything
00:30:06.960 under this prism
00:30:08.160 of what is best
00:30:10.020 for America,
00:30:11.100 what's best
00:30:11.680 for the taxpayers,
00:30:12.820 what is best
00:30:13.480 for U.S. citizens,
00:30:15.100 not our allies,
00:30:16.320 not illegals
00:30:17.520 who are in the country,
00:30:18.980 not the politicians
00:30:20.480 in the political class,
00:30:22.040 but what is best
00:30:23.760 for America?
00:30:26.600 He's an inspiring guy
00:30:28.340 to work for.
00:30:29.580 I don't know when he sleeps,
00:30:30.800 to be honest with you.
00:30:31.780 His energy
00:30:32.920 just astounds me.
00:30:35.260 His stamina
00:30:35.880 is extraordinary.
00:30:37.520 He's obviously
00:30:38.480 very courageous.
00:30:40.860 I mean,
00:30:41.560 they tried to kill him twice
00:30:42.980 and he still keeps
00:30:44.600 pushing forward
00:30:45.580 on this agenda
00:30:46.660 of reform.
00:30:47.540 I think there's
00:30:48.940 a high probability
00:30:50.000 that we are heading
00:30:51.900 into a golden age here.
00:30:55.240 He's had a heck of a run
00:30:57.140 just in the last week
00:30:58.880 with this decision
00:31:00.660 in the federal courts
00:31:02.320 that seems to me
00:31:03.640 to end the judicial tyranny
00:31:05.700 in which judges
00:31:07.840 that they shop for,
00:31:10.940 activists,
00:31:12.240 liberal judges,
00:31:13.420 issue these sweeping,
00:31:15.220 nationally impacting
00:31:17.620 rulings.
00:31:19.520 It looks to me like
00:31:20.420 that obstacle
00:31:21.360 is now out of the way.
00:31:24.320 USID going out of business,
00:31:26.640 stepping up
00:31:27.540 the deportation
00:31:28.560 of illegals.
00:31:30.040 The president's had
00:31:30.900 one heck of a week.
00:31:32.980 He really has
00:31:33.640 and he's a machine,
00:31:34.500 like you said,
00:31:35.160 and it's been publicly reported,
00:31:36.560 you know,
00:31:36.740 he stays late
00:31:37.460 into the Oval Office
00:31:38.620 and then it's been reported
00:31:40.220 that he goes up
00:31:41.460 into the residence
00:31:42.140 and that he continues
00:31:42.960 to work into the late hours
00:31:44.920 of the night.
00:31:45.480 This is a man
00:31:47.160 who is a machine.
00:31:48.800 I don't know
00:31:49.720 if they will make
00:31:50.840 another one
00:31:51.340 like this gentleman.
00:31:52.680 I mean,
00:31:52.900 think about it,
00:31:53.540 79 years old.
00:31:55.360 I mean,
00:31:55.600 who knows anybody
00:31:56.520 who's 79 years old
00:31:57.720 who's as efficient,
00:32:00.040 as functional,
00:32:01.380 and frankly,
00:32:02.200 brilliant as he is.
00:32:03.220 I mean,
00:32:03.400 he is brilliant.
00:32:04.180 I said this yesterday,
00:32:05.340 Roger,
00:32:05.660 on my Twitter.
00:32:06.300 I said,
00:32:06.800 I've never met
00:32:08.100 another person
00:32:08.940 who has as good
00:32:09.800 of instincts
00:32:10.280 as this gentleman
00:32:11.200 does in my entire life.
00:32:13.360 His instincts
00:32:14.220 are just otherworldly.
00:32:16.040 I don't care
00:32:16.380 what anybody says
00:32:17.180 about him.
00:32:17.680 I think he's brilliant.
00:32:19.280 Well,
00:32:19.500 the brilliance
00:32:20.320 of doing away
00:32:21.080 with the tax on tips,
00:32:22.540 for example,
00:32:23.420 which really did come
00:32:24.900 from a conversation
00:32:26.020 that he had
00:32:26.900 with a cocktail waitress
00:32:28.640 when he was campaigning
00:32:30.000 in Las Vegas.
00:32:31.500 I think it tipped
00:32:32.780 the silver state
00:32:33.900 of Nevada,
00:32:35.840 a swing state,
00:32:37.140 a state that Republicans
00:32:38.600 lost in the last
00:32:40.200 presidential election.
00:32:41.340 It was one
00:32:44.660 of the more brilliant
00:32:45.460 pieces of the big,
00:32:47.160 beautiful bill.
00:32:47.880 It will soon be
00:32:48.540 federal law.
00:32:49.860 He didn't get that
00:32:50.760 from some economist.
00:32:52.100 It came from the mind
00:32:53.660 of Donald J. Trump.
00:32:56.180 And his affinity
00:32:57.440 for working people,
00:32:58.520 this guy is a billionaire
00:32:59.720 who never really lost
00:33:01.880 his queen's roots.
00:33:03.680 He has the common touch.
00:33:05.400 He understands
00:33:06.080 the language
00:33:07.340 and the instincts
00:33:08.560 and the feelings
00:33:09.500 of the working people.
00:33:12.600 It's why I think
00:33:13.040 he's going to go down
00:33:13.960 in history
00:33:15.060 as one of our
00:33:15.800 greatest presidents.
00:33:17.880 All right,
00:33:18.300 I'm afraid we have
00:33:19.180 to wrap it there.
00:33:20.340 I want to thank
00:33:20.820 our guest,
00:33:21.560 Bill Pulte,
00:33:22.700 who is the director
00:33:24.500 of the Federal Housing
00:33:26.120 Finance Agency
00:33:27.380 and who today
00:33:28.740 called for a
00:33:29.500 congressional investigation
00:33:30.740 into Federal Reserve
00:33:32.600 Chairman Jerome Powell.
00:33:34.580 Bill,
00:33:34.800 thank you for entering
00:33:35.880 the Stone Zone.
00:33:36.880 This is the Stone Zone
00:33:39.180 with Roger Stone.
00:33:48.740 This is the Stone Zone
00:33:51.020 with Roger Stone.
00:34:01.540 I'm not just stepping stone.
00:34:03.960 The Stone Zone
00:34:06.260 on the Red Apple
00:34:08.260 Podcast Network.
00:34:10.760 And we're back
00:34:11.980 in the Stone Zone.
00:34:13.680 Thanks again
00:34:14.520 to Bill Pulte,
00:34:15.820 the director
00:34:16.380 of the Federal
00:34:17.020 Housing Finance Agency.
00:34:19.600 Breaking news here
00:34:20.660 in the Stone Zone
00:34:21.900 calling for a
00:34:22.900 congressional investigation
00:34:23.920 into whether
00:34:25.360 Jerome Powell,
00:34:26.700 the chairman
00:34:27.300 of the Federal Reserve,
00:34:28.860 lied to Congress
00:34:29.940 about a $2.4 billion
00:34:32.560 renovation
00:34:34.260 to the palatial
00:34:35.380 headquarters
00:34:35.920 of the Federal Reserve.
00:34:38.240 Also,
00:34:39.040 Pulte criticized
00:34:39.860 the director
00:34:40.960 of the Fed
00:34:41.500 for his stout refusal
00:34:43.360 to cut interest rates
00:34:44.620 on the American people
00:34:45.600 despite the fact
00:34:46.480 that both the
00:34:47.240 inflation rate
00:34:48.480 and the unemployment rate,
00:34:50.300 the two measures
00:34:51.060 the Fed uses,
00:34:52.320 are lower
00:34:53.260 than they were
00:34:54.540 when the Fed
00:34:56.600 last cut rates
00:34:58.420 ahead of the
00:34:59.400 2024 election.
00:35:00.460 for election.
00:35:02.100 Meanwhile,
00:35:02.980 the University
00:35:04.360 of Pennsylvania
00:35:06.260 has reached
00:35:07.520 a settlement
00:35:08.060 with the U.S.
00:35:08.720 Department of Education
00:35:09.860 rejecting
00:35:11.700 transgender insanity
00:35:13.560 after letting
00:35:14.940 a biological man,
00:35:16.920 Leah Thomas,
00:35:18.260 dominate women
00:35:19.200 in swimming competitions.
00:35:21.200 UPenn has agreed
00:35:22.280 to give titles
00:35:23.160 and records
00:35:23.940 back to female athletes
00:35:25.940 who were robbed
00:35:27.100 of these honors
00:35:27.920 because they were
00:35:28.920 misappropriated
00:35:30.280 by male athletes
00:35:31.760 who were allowed
00:35:32.620 to compete
00:35:33.780 in female categories.
00:35:35.460 This is really insanity.
00:35:37.500 The Trump administration
00:35:38.500 initiated an investigation
00:35:39.900 into the University
00:35:41.060 of Pennsylvania
00:35:41.760 early this year
00:35:43.280 before freezing
00:35:44.740 $175 million
00:35:46.380 in funding
00:35:47.420 for the university
00:35:48.860 after it refused
00:35:50.360 to comply
00:35:51.140 with a DEI-related
00:35:53.640 executive order.
00:35:54.620 the feds
00:35:56.420 later determined
00:35:57.420 that UPenn
00:35:58.220 had in fact
00:35:58.860 violated
00:35:59.580 Title IX rules
00:36:02.160 allowing Thomas
00:36:03.500 to participate
00:36:04.380 in a female
00:36:06.060 swimming competition
00:36:07.420 denying opportunity
00:36:08.580 to competitors
00:36:10.020 who were
00:36:10.600 biological females.
00:36:13.700 University of Penn
00:36:14.760 officials
00:36:15.200 will be issuing
00:36:16.080 apologies
00:36:16.800 to the women
00:36:17.980 who were
00:36:18.480 adversely impacted
00:36:19.700 by their embrace
00:36:21.280 of this
00:36:21.800 transgender insanity.
00:36:23.400 This I think
00:36:24.760 shows how
00:36:25.300 the Trump administration
00:36:26.100 is fulfilling
00:36:27.380 its mandate
00:36:28.300 of eliminating
00:36:29.040 wokeism
00:36:30.280 from our culture
00:36:31.660 as the country
00:36:32.680 is no longer
00:36:33.500 held hostage
00:36:34.340 to the delusions
00:36:36.020 and perversions
00:36:37.800 of a fringe
00:36:39.180 leftist minority.
00:36:41.640 Meanwhile
00:36:42.000 the Congressional
00:36:43.060 Black Caucus
00:36:44.100 is big mad
00:36:45.580 after the corporate
00:36:47.060 retailer Target
00:36:48.340 announced
00:36:48.840 they would no longer
00:36:49.660 be giving money
00:36:50.540 to that
00:36:52.160 non-profit.
00:36:53.100 Target has been
00:36:53.800 giving at least
00:36:54.560 1.4 million
00:36:56.460 in annual donations
00:36:58.280 to the Congressional
00:36:59.360 Black Caucus Fund
00:37:00.480 as well as
00:37:01.500 additional money
00:37:02.240 to other
00:37:03.000 racial justice groups
00:37:04.880 for years
00:37:05.380 hoping to avoid
00:37:06.600 a multicultural
00:37:08.140 mob
00:37:09.100 from ransacking
00:37:10.020 their stores
00:37:10.820 like they did
00:37:12.120 after the death
00:37:13.420 of serial felon
00:37:14.960 George Floyd
00:37:15.920 back in 2020.
00:37:18.200 With Black Lives Matter
00:37:20.180 mania
00:37:20.860 waning
00:37:21.440 in recent years
00:37:22.560 Target has determined
00:37:24.040 they will no longer
00:37:24.940 have to participate
00:37:26.180 in this racial
00:37:28.140 protection racket
00:37:29.360 anymore.
00:37:30.280 They announced
00:37:31.160 back in January
00:37:32.520 they would be
00:37:33.360 cutting off
00:37:34.060 their funding
00:37:35.160 to the Congressional
00:37:36.120 Black Caucus
00:37:36.780 and similar
00:37:37.800 organizations.
00:37:39.380 The Congressional
00:37:40.480 Black Caucus
00:37:41.120 struck back
00:37:41.760 by announcing
00:37:42.360 a boycott
00:37:43.720 of Target
00:37:44.480 which I don't think
00:37:45.520 will be terribly
00:37:46.580 successful.
00:37:48.060 The Black Caucus
00:37:49.580 stated like
00:37:50.360 many of the
00:37:51.140 coalition leaders
00:37:51.980 and partner
00:37:52.520 organizations
00:37:53.140 that have chosen
00:37:54.340 to boycott
00:37:54.960 their stares
00:37:55.460 across the country
00:37:56.360 we found
00:37:56.940 that the
00:37:57.640 explanations
00:37:58.320 offered by
00:37:59.100 the leadership
00:37:59.600 of the Target
00:38:00.400 Corporation
00:38:01.040 fell woefully
00:38:02.660 short of what
00:38:03.720 our communities
00:38:04.380 deserve
00:38:04.920 and of the values
00:38:06.600 includes
00:38:07.540 of that Target
00:38:08.480 once touted.
00:38:10.480 So folks
00:38:11.260 if you're
00:38:11.720 shopping
00:38:12.200 this afternoon
00:38:13.200 let me
00:38:13.640 recommend
00:38:14.060 that you
00:38:14.520 drop
00:38:15.020 by
00:38:15.500 Target
00:38:16.240 showing
00:38:16.960 rare
00:38:17.600 courage
00:38:18.300 in this
00:38:19.220 atmosphere
00:38:19.880 no longer
00:38:21.200 willing to be
00:38:21.980 strong armed
00:38:23.060 by those
00:38:24.400 playing
00:38:25.080 the race
00:38:26.080 card.
00:38:26.560 It demonstrates
00:38:27.520 that it is
00:38:28.300 a new
00:38:29.060 day in
00:38:29.980 America
00:38:30.420 and we're
00:38:32.320 entering a
00:38:32.880 golden age
00:38:33.640 an age of
00:38:34.880 unprecedented
00:38:35.640 peace
00:38:36.220 prosperity
00:38:37.300 security
00:38:38.260 justice
00:38:38.900 and law
00:38:40.140 and order.
00:38:40.660 You can hear
00:38:41.520 about it
00:38:41.920 every day
00:38:42.580 here on
00:38:43.620 the stone
00:38:44.120 zone
00:38:44.500 on the
00:38:45.200 red
00:38:45.500 apple
00:38:46.120 audio
00:38:46.700 networks
00:38:47.340 until
00:38:48.000 tomorrow
00:38:48.640 God bless
00:38:49.500 you
00:38:49.780 and
00:38:50.340 God
00:38:50.940 speed.
00:38:51.460 thanks for
00:38:52.520 listening to
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