The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - The Stone Zone ｜ 07-02-25

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:06.060 Welcome. You are now entering the Stone Zone.

00:00:10.080 Well, the boss of the Federal Housing Finance Agency,

00:00:14.380 who also chairs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,

00:00:17.180 the two federal housing powerhouses,

00:00:20.840 claims that Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell

00:00:23.940 should lose his job over allegedly false testimony

00:00:28.280 he gave to Congress regarding a $2.5 billion revamp

00:00:34.260 of the Federal Reserve's palatial D.C. headquarters.

00:00:38.580 This is, of course, the same Jerome Powell, Chairman of the Fed,

00:00:42.640 who is refusing to cut interest rates on the American people

00:00:46.320 despite the fact that both the inflation rate

00:00:49.340 and the unemployment rate are lower today

00:00:52.200 than when the Fed cut rates to try to assist Joe Biden

00:00:56.320 in last November's election.

00:00:58.860 Bill Pulte, the head of the Federal Home Finance Administration,

00:01:02.100 joins us later in the show to talk about all that.

00:01:05.580 In the meantime, the state of Israel has agreed to a 60-day ceasefire

00:01:10.020 in the Gaza Strip as President Trump continues to negotiate peace

00:01:14.520 in the Middle East.

00:01:15.580 Israel has been at war since the infamous October 7th attacks

00:01:19.640 by the Hamas terror group that rocked the Jewish nation 0.61

00:01:23.080 to its very core.

00:01:25.120 President Trump announced on True Social

00:01:27.060 that he has been working very hard with the Egyptians

00:01:29.860 and the Qataris to broker this peace deal.

00:01:33.720 And now Hamas has a chance to do the right thing, 1.00

00:01:36.580 as the president said, and bring lasting peace

00:01:39.020 and I would say also prosperity and safety

00:01:44.760 to the people of Gaza.

00:01:46.580 Israel remains focused on bringing home hostages 0.94

00:01:49.620 that are still being held in Gaza,

00:01:51.540 over 20 of which are still believed to be alive.

00:01:54.700 Israel's UN ambassador, Danny Danone,

00:01:57.100 confirmed that Israel is absolutely ready for a ceasefire,

00:02:00.500 but made it clear that the war will end

00:02:03.120 when our hostages are back home.

00:02:06.180 President Trump has already been able to cool tensions

00:02:09.160 between Israel and Iran,

00:02:11.100 following an exchange of hostilities

00:02:12.640 between those two countries.

00:02:14.980 President Trump's limited and surgical bombing campaign

00:02:18.480 of Iran also did, in fact,

00:02:21.800 destroy their nuclear weapons development capability.

00:02:26.020 And after that successful bombing campaign,

00:02:28.280 President Trump immediately made it clear

00:02:29.980 that there would be no regime change war,

00:02:33.940 no boots on the ground,

00:02:35.600 no endless foreign war.

00:02:37.640 He immediately urged the Iranians 1.00

00:02:40.140 to come back to the peace table.

00:02:42.180 The Trump foreign policy truly embodies

00:02:44.600 the whole peace through strength ethos

00:02:47.120 that was embodied by Ronald Reagan,

00:02:49.520 Richard Nixon, and President Dwight Eisenhower.

00:02:52.500 We should pray for Israel

00:02:54.220 and pray for peace in the Gaza Strip

00:02:55.980 as Trump works incredibly hard

00:02:58.260 to do his deal-making magic in the region.

00:03:02.920 In the meantime, Donald Trump

00:03:04.580 and his one-time friend Elon Musk

00:03:07.220 are back at it.

00:03:08.560 They're waging a war of wars,

00:03:11.020 once again, over the spending provisions

00:03:13.860 of the big, beautiful bill.

00:03:17.120 Musk, of course, has argued

00:03:18.700 that the big, beautiful bill is too expensive,

00:03:20.880 adding trillions to the debt.

00:03:22.760 President Trump has pointed out

00:03:24.120 the hypocrisy of Musk's railing

00:03:26.620 against government spending

00:03:27.640 when his own companies

00:03:29.140 have been the recipients

00:03:29.940 of some tens of billions

00:03:31.960 in federal subsidies throughout the year.

00:03:34.240 But putting that colorful exchange aside,

00:03:36.480 I think it's important

00:03:37.300 that if you want your car insurance to decrease,

00:03:40.560 you should deport 20 million illegals 1.00

00:03:43.580 who are in the country illegally.

00:03:45.340 If you want less traffic,

00:03:47.040 the answer is to deport 20 million illegals.

00:03:49.780 If you want less expensive housing

00:03:51.960 and competition for the affordable housing

00:03:54.660 that does exist,

00:03:55.800 we should deport 20 million illegals. 1.00

00:03:58.380 If you don't want to wait

00:03:59.500 in an emergency room,

00:04:02.220 you should deport 20 million illegals. 0.99

00:04:05.280 If we want Medicaid spending

00:04:07.000 and therefore the deficit to decrease,

00:04:09.260 as Elon has said,

00:04:11.160 the most immediate way

00:04:12.520 is to deport 20 million illegals.

00:04:15.200 If you want cleaner, safer cities

00:04:17.060 and walkable sidewalks, 0.98

00:04:19.040 again, deport 20 million illegals. 0.79

00:04:22.280 If you want an end

00:04:23.460 to the panhandlers at traffic lights,

00:04:26.000 a good way to stop that

00:04:27.720 would be once again

00:04:28.800 to deport 20 million illegals.

00:04:31.420 If you want Democrats

00:04:32.620 to never win a national election again,

00:04:35.060 then deport 20 million illegals.

00:04:38.040 The costs associated

00:04:40.060 with the social spending benefits

00:04:44.740 and housing of illegals

00:04:47.000 run into the billions,

00:04:48.700 some of it mandated by state law.

00:04:50.660 The fastest way to reduce

00:04:52.380 the size and scope of government

00:04:54.180 begins with one issue,

00:04:56.260 curbing illegal immigration.

00:04:58.540 Deporting millions of illegals 1.00

00:05:00.180 will reduce Medicaid

00:05:01.280 and health care spending

00:05:02.500 and thus cut the annual federal deficit.

00:05:05.080 It is, I think,

00:05:07.840 rather obvious at this point.

00:05:10.600 Deporting illegals 1.00

00:05:11.460 is as close to a panacea

00:05:13.220 that will fix our ailing nation.

00:05:15.040 The Big Beautiful Bill

00:05:16.080 also delivers on one other

00:05:18.260 very important issue.

00:05:20.540 It provides a whopping

00:05:21.920 $60 billion

00:05:22.920 in supplemental spending

00:05:24.480 over the course of four years

00:05:25.660 to increase the border patrol.

00:05:28.460 That means physical barriers,

00:05:30.220 which is about another $46.5 billion,

00:05:32.320 to build the border wall,

00:05:33.600 and thousands of new

00:05:35.100 border patrol agents.

00:05:37.020 It's not enough

00:05:37.800 just to seal our border now.

00:05:39.540 It must remain sealed.

00:05:41.660 Musk, through his continuing

00:05:43.760 badgering about the Big Beautiful Bill,

00:05:46.620 seems to be missing

00:05:47.340 the forest for the trees,

00:05:48.420 in my opinion.

00:05:49.540 It is very clear to me also

00:05:52.060 that those who say

00:05:54.420 that the bill does not cut

00:05:56.560 Social Security

00:05:57.320 are incorrect.

00:05:58.780 One of the most important,

00:06:01.520 pardon me,

00:06:02.300 those who say

00:06:02.780 it does cut Social Security

00:06:03.780 are incorrect.

00:06:05.580 One of the most beneficial effects

00:06:07.060 of the passage

00:06:07.740 of the Big Beautiful Bill

00:06:08.660 is reducing the taxes

00:06:10.100 on Social Security.

00:06:11.660 Because of a provision

00:06:12.960 in the bill,

00:06:13.700 88% of all seniors

00:06:15.820 who receive

00:06:17.520 Social Security benefits today

00:06:19.060 will pay no taxes

00:06:20.600 on their Social Security benefits.

00:06:22.820 This will be a lifesaver

00:06:24.240 for anyone living

00:06:25.120 on a fixed income,

00:06:26.020 will certainly not be forgotten

00:06:27.780 during next year's midterms.

00:06:29.800 It's simply smart politics

00:06:31.520 all the way around.

00:06:33.200 This Big Beautiful Bill provision

00:06:35.480 also flies in the face

00:06:36.960 of what the Democrats

00:06:38.160 have said about Social Security.

00:06:39.780 They've claimed for years

00:06:40.780 that it's Republicans

00:06:41.860 who were after

00:06:42.880 their Social Security benefits

00:06:44.080 and wanted to destroy

00:06:45.720 that popular program.

00:06:48.220 President Trump

00:06:48.840 is turning the Republican Party

00:06:50.260 into the American First Party

00:06:52.060 of the working families

00:06:53.760 of this country.

00:06:54.480 It's abundantly clear

00:06:56.020 that cutting Social Security

00:06:57.480 is off the table

00:06:58.900 as long as he is

00:07:00.480 President of the United States.

00:07:02.200 But if you look at the record,

00:07:03.180 it's actually Democrats

00:07:04.100 who have waged war

00:07:05.200 against Social Security

00:07:06.020 over the years.

00:07:07.040 It was Democrats

00:07:07.780 who first moved

00:07:08.620 Social Security funds

00:07:09.640 from a private trust fund

00:07:11.180 to public funds.

00:07:11.980 That was under

00:07:12.560 Lyndon Baines Johnson.

00:07:14.540 It was Democrats

00:07:15.740 who allowed fiscally

00:07:17.060 reckless members of Congress

00:07:18.400 to pilfer our Social Security funds

00:07:20.560 and spend it on other things.

00:07:22.080 It was Democrats

00:07:23.200 who outlawed tax deductions

00:07:24.980 for Social Security payments.

00:07:26.880 We're now getting that

00:07:27.760 in the Big Beautiful Bill.

00:07:29.180 It was Democrats

00:07:30.040 who initiated the taxing

00:07:31.500 of Social Security payments

00:07:32.860 to begin with.

00:07:34.140 It was Democrats

00:07:34.840 who have not given

00:07:35.620 any adequate increase

00:07:37.300 in Social Security

00:07:38.060 over the last eight years.

00:07:40.040 And of course,

00:07:40.820 it was Democrats

00:07:41.780 who opened up

00:07:42.760 Social Security money

00:07:43.580 for illegal immigrants

00:07:44.520 to subsidize

00:07:45.940 the demographic overthrow

00:07:47.500 of America.

00:07:48.960 The Big Beautiful Bill

00:07:49.940 has driven a stake

00:07:50.920 through the heart

00:07:51.540 of the common

00:07:52.700 Democrat narrative

00:07:53.860 that it's Republicans

00:07:54.720 who are after Social Security.

00:07:56.420 Republicans,

00:07:56.920 especially those

00:07:57.520 who are closely aligned

00:07:58.360 with President Trump,

00:07:59.500 are fighting to protect

00:08:00.820 Social Security

00:08:01.460 while Democrats

00:08:02.100 play political games

00:08:03.280 and make claims

00:08:04.620 about the Big Beautiful Bill

00:08:05.840 and Social Security

00:08:06.620 that are just not so.

00:08:09.300 Meanwhile,

00:08:10.100 Health and Homeland Security

00:08:11.440 Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:08:13.720 said yesterday

00:08:14.700 that he had

00:08:16.580 a major autism bombshell

00:08:18.480 that will no doubt

00:08:20.040 cause huge headaches

00:08:21.260 for big pharma spin doctors.

00:08:23.340 Robert Kennedy stated

00:08:24.400 that the Center

00:08:25.480 for Disease Control

00:08:26.540 and Prevention

00:08:27.160 suppressed a scientific study

00:08:29.420 from 1999

00:08:30.420 that demonstrated

00:08:31.660 an incredible

00:08:33.200 1,135% risk,

00:08:37.120 elevated risk

00:08:37.940 among children

00:08:38.660 who received

00:08:39.880 the hepatitis B vaccination

00:08:42.140 shortly after birth

00:08:43.980 versus those

00:08:44.860 who received

00:08:45.480 received the shot later

00:08:46.900 or not at all.

00:08:49.080 That was far

00:08:50.240 from the only

00:08:51.260 startling claim

00:08:52.300 that RFK made

00:08:53.180 while speaking recently.

00:08:55.540 He referenced

00:08:56.000 a published article

00:08:56.880 indicating that

00:08:57.580 50% of revenues

00:08:59.260 to most pediatricians

00:09:00.760 come from

00:09:01.780 vaccination companies.

00:09:03.480 Additionally,

00:09:04.320 Robert Kennedy Jr.

00:09:05.300 said that insurance companies

00:09:06.620 pay bonuses

00:09:07.860 to doctors

00:09:08.860 to enforce compliance

00:09:10.080 with vaccination standards

00:09:11.820 dictated by

00:09:12.740 the public health industry.

00:09:14.660 RFK is describing

00:09:16.560 a medical system

00:09:17.660 has become

00:09:18.160 frighteningly detached,

00:09:19.840 in my opinion,

00:09:20.620 from what's best

00:09:21.620 for the people.

00:09:22.860 Financial incentives

00:09:23.960 are built around

00:09:24.940 encouraging compliance

00:09:26.460 and respect

00:09:27.380 for the individual patient

00:09:28.560 as being completely

00:09:29.500 lost in the process.

00:09:31.760 This is seen

00:09:32.640 most frighteningly

00:09:33.400 during the COVID-19 pandemic

00:09:34.880 when the public's fear

00:09:35.800 was weaponized

00:09:36.540 to shut down society

00:09:38.300 as big pharma's profits

00:09:39.600 swelled

00:09:40.660 recording directly

00:09:42.120 from the increase

00:09:43.440 in human misery.

00:09:44.660 For years,

00:09:46.000 Big Pharma

00:09:46.540 and its advocates

00:09:47.760 have aggressively

00:09:48.500 demonized anyone

00:09:49.720 who suggested

00:09:50.980 that there might be

00:09:51.940 a link between

00:09:52.620 vaccinations and autism.

00:09:54.640 This has been

00:09:55.320 a third rail

00:09:56.220 that only fringe voices

00:09:57.760 have been willing

00:09:58.460 to broach.

00:09:59.460 The jury is still out

00:10:00.500 with regards

00:10:01.060 to the evidence,

00:10:01.900 but Robert F. Kennedy

00:10:02.660 is unafraid

00:10:03.300 to ask the questions

00:10:04.300 and as President Trump

00:10:05.780 has said,

00:10:07.040 where is the harm

00:10:08.180 in asking

00:10:08.800 legitimate questions?

00:10:11.140 He and RFK

00:10:12.580 are digging

00:10:13.240 for the truth.

00:10:14.560 It's the first time

00:10:15.180 we've ever seen that

00:10:16.100 from a public health

00:10:17.060 official in generations

00:10:18.040 or actually perhaps

00:10:19.420 as long as I have lived.

00:10:21.100 It's clear to me

00:10:21.880 by now

00:10:22.480 that RFK Jr.

00:10:23.960 talks

00:10:24.340 and because of his

00:10:25.040 bold actions

00:10:25.760 as the Secretary

00:10:27.600 of Health

00:10:28.100 and Human Services,

00:10:29.480 he is far

00:10:30.460 from compromise.

00:10:32.000 This is a man

00:10:32.660 who takes his role

00:10:33.540 as a public servant

00:10:34.440 very seriously.

00:10:36.260 I knew

00:10:36.920 and was friendly

00:10:37.500 with Robert Kennedy

00:10:38.280 before he ran

00:10:39.080 for President.

00:10:39.960 Didn't know him

00:10:40.560 nearly as well

00:10:41.120 as I know Donald Trump,

00:10:42.600 but I've always admired

00:10:43.840 the fact that

00:10:44.560 in any public forum,

00:10:46.280 whether a panel

00:10:47.100 or a debate

00:10:47.880 or an interview,

00:10:49.000 I've never seen him

00:10:49.980 put forward a fact

00:10:51.260 that he could not

00:10:52.300 back up with

00:10:53.040 a relevant,

00:10:54.660 legitimate study

00:10:55.760 or test.

00:10:57.540 And for that,

00:10:58.460 I have enormous

00:10:59.120 respect for him.

00:11:00.220 I think he's on the cusp

00:11:01.160 of realizing

00:11:02.260 his life's work

00:11:03.160 and the American people

00:11:03.980 will be immeasurably

00:11:05.420 better off

00:11:06.060 if he succeeds

00:11:06.900 in cleaning up

00:11:07.680 the institutional rot

00:11:09.740 in our federal

00:11:10.760 health bureaucracy.

00:11:12.400 Robert F. Kennedy

00:11:13.100 may very well

00:11:13.880 have been

00:11:14.300 President Trump's

00:11:15.600 wisest cabinet pick,

00:11:17.460 although that's

00:11:18.580 quite a contest

00:11:19.520 because I think

00:11:20.080 Secretary of State

00:11:20.900 Marco Rubio

00:11:21.680 is doing an amazing job.

00:11:23.320 I also think

00:11:24.060 obviously very highly

00:11:25.120 of Director of National

00:11:26.260 Intelligence

00:11:27.720 Tulsi Gabbard.

00:11:29.140 This is an

00:11:30.080 all-star cabinet.

00:11:32.320 Meanwhile,

00:11:32.960 Paramount Global,

00:11:34.000 the parent company

00:11:34.760 of CBS News,

00:11:35.960 has agreed to pay

00:11:36.920 President Donald Trump

00:11:38.260 over $30 million

00:11:39.260 to settle

00:11:40.220 an election

00:11:40.840 interference lawsuit

00:11:42.440 that Trump filed

00:11:43.180 against the network.

00:11:44.560 Trump will receive

00:11:45.540 an initial $16 million

00:11:47.020 initially

00:11:47.580 based on the judgment.

00:11:49.500 There's expected

00:11:49.860 to be an additional

00:11:50.660 $15 million

00:11:51.420 set aside

00:11:52.700 for advertisements,

00:11:54.500 public service

00:11:55.460 announcements,

00:11:56.060 and other content

00:11:56.780 that would be

00:11:57.220 in support of

00:11:58.000 conservative,

00:11:59.200 pro-Trump causes

00:12:00.160 in the future.

00:12:01.260 Trump filed

00:12:02.260 the law salute

00:12:03.080 last year

00:12:03.720 after CBS

00:12:04.420 heavily edited

00:12:05.880 an interview

00:12:06.500 with former

00:12:07.040 Vice President

00:12:07.620 Kamala Harris.

00:12:08.940 It was a kind

00:12:09.640 of a ham-handed

00:12:10.580 attempt to sway 0.83

00:12:11.480 votes in the lead-up

00:12:13.620 to last year's

00:12:14.540 presidential election.

00:12:16.320 In the aftermath

00:12:17.200 of the settlement,

00:12:18.060 CBS will be changing

00:12:19.160 their editorial standards

00:12:20.540 to where they will be

00:12:21.940 editing unaltered

00:12:23.300 transcripts

00:12:23.940 of interviews

00:12:24.460 with presidential candidates

00:12:26.940 from now on.

00:12:28.500 This rule,

00:12:29.320 informally dubbed

00:12:30.180 the Trump rule,

00:12:31.980 will create

00:12:32.500 additional transparency

00:12:33.880 in the media coverage

00:12:35.420 of future

00:12:36.200 presidential elections.

00:12:38.180 President Trump

00:12:38.860 has gone on the offense

00:12:40.600 to level the playing field

00:12:41.900 when it comes to

00:12:42.700 the mainstream media.

00:12:44.420 Contrary to cries

00:12:45.260 from the Democrats,

00:12:46.460 Trump's lawsuit

00:12:47.080 actually enhances

00:12:48.300 media fairness

00:12:49.320 and accountability.

00:12:51.240 The public will get

00:12:52.320 full interviews

00:12:53.160 rather than spin

00:12:54.040 doctor versions

00:12:54.960 of what the network

00:12:56.600 wants it to be.

00:12:57.620 The fake news media's

00:12:58.600 ability to play gatekeeper

00:13:00.260 has taken a major hit

00:13:01.820 with this settlement.

00:13:03.660 I think it is good news

00:13:05.040 for our entire

00:13:06.820 political system.

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00:14:26.700 Well, here we go again.

00:14:28.720 Yet another federal judge

00:14:30.120 has intervened in order

00:14:31.400 to impede President Trump's ability

00:14:33.820 to conduct immigration policy,

00:14:35.620 this time stepping in

00:14:37.220 to protect the temporary

00:14:38.500 legal status of Haitians

00:14:40.660 who are in the United States

00:14:42.140 illegally.

00:14:42.900 New York District Court Judge

00:14:44.480 Brian M. Kogan,

00:14:46.180 an appointee of President George W. Bush,

00:14:49.500 issued a ruling

00:14:50.120 that stated that

00:14:50.640 Trump's administration's decision

00:14:52.560 to cancel the temporary

00:14:53.860 protected status of Haitians

00:14:55.960 five months earlier

00:14:56.960 than anticipated was unlawful.

00:14:59.880 The Biden administration

00:15:00.840 has given these Haitians 0.99

00:15:03.020 additional protections

00:15:04.080 after they declared

00:15:05.520 that it was necessary

00:15:06.440 because of growing dangers

00:15:08.340 in the country.

00:15:09.460 The Trump administration

00:15:10.260 disagreed

00:15:10.980 and overruled

00:15:12.280 the Biden-era decision,

00:15:13.920 arguing that the political situation

00:15:15.760 has improved enough in Haiti

00:15:17.080 for these people

00:15:18.140 to be sent back to their home.

00:15:20.320 But Judge Kogan

00:15:21.320 apparently believes

00:15:22.340 that Biden's policies

00:15:23.480 cannot be reversed

00:15:24.760 by President Trump

00:15:25.680 and our nation

00:15:26.840 is now essentially

00:15:27.960 being held hostage to him.

00:15:30.020 The Supreme Court

00:15:30.680 may need once again

00:15:31.860 to intervene

00:15:32.980 as they did

00:15:33.720 in the case of

00:15:34.420 350,000 Venezuelans

00:15:36.900 who sued to stay

00:15:38.340 in the United States.

00:15:39.700 The U.S. Supreme Court

00:15:41.140 nullified a ruling

00:15:42.760 by a leftist activist judge

00:15:44.980 in the junkies' paradise

00:15:46.920 of San Francisco

00:15:48.300 that keeps the TPS,

00:15:50.880 the temporary status

00:15:52.380 of these Venezuelans

00:15:53.760 in the United States.

00:15:55.020 The Trump administration

00:15:55.760 said the Biden regime

00:15:57.600 exploited programs

00:15:58.760 to let poorly vetted migrants 1.00

00:16:01.040 into this country

00:16:01.920 and they rightfully

00:16:03.100 must overturn

00:16:03.980 these Biden-era abuses

00:16:05.480 that empower illegals

00:16:06.800 and they make our country

00:16:08.420 less safe.

00:16:10.160 Lower-level judges

00:16:11.340 have proven to be

00:16:12.660 a menace

00:16:13.260 when it comes to

00:16:13.920 abusing their authority

00:16:15.440 to impede the mandate

00:16:17.140 that President Trump

00:16:18.020 won in the last election.

00:16:20.340 It's clear to me

00:16:21.120 they've become

00:16:21.800 some of the most

00:16:22.400 overreaching, 0.97

00:16:23.260 arrogant,

00:16:23.760 and power-hungry people 0.93

00:16:25.220 currently serving

00:16:26.200 in government.

00:16:26.880 Perhaps it's time

00:16:27.800 to ignore their rulings.

00:16:29.200 To paraphrase

00:16:29.880 one of the greatest presidents

00:16:30.920 ever,

00:16:31.340 President Andrew Jackson,

00:16:32.660 the courts have now

00:16:33.540 made their rulings

00:16:34.360 and let them come

00:16:35.260 and try to enforce it.

00:16:37.060 I'm not a lawyer,

00:16:38.420 but I do recognize

00:16:40.660 the Andrew Jackson precedent.

00:16:43.780 Joining us on the other side

00:16:46.320 will be William J. Bill Pulte.

00:16:49.580 He is the director

00:16:51.380 of the U.S. Federal Housing

00:16:53.480 Administration,

00:16:55.220 also known as

00:16:55.820 the Federal Housing

00:16:56.520 and Financing Agency.

00:16:58.260 He's also the chairman

00:16:59.240 of Fannie Mae

00:17:00.360 and Freddie Mac,

00:17:01.600 the two housing powerhouses

00:17:03.620 that fund mortgages

00:17:05.200 for the American people.

00:17:06.700 Pulte is all over

00:17:08.340 the news today

00:17:09.240 because he has been

00:17:10.960 calling on

00:17:11.800 Federal Reserve Chairman

00:17:13.020 Jerome Powell

00:17:14.440 to cut interest rates

00:17:15.920 since the inflation rate

00:17:18.540 and the unemployment rate

00:17:19.880 are both lower

00:17:21.120 than the last time

00:17:22.380 the Fed cut rates

00:17:24.120 just before the 2024 election.

00:17:27.340 In that case,

00:17:27.920 to benefit Joe Biden,

00:17:29.380 I believe,

00:17:29.980 but they refused

00:17:30.920 to cut rates today.

00:17:32.080 But now Pulte is calling

00:17:33.840 for a congressional investigation

00:17:35.320 into Federal Reserve

00:17:36.940 Chairman Jerome Powell

00:17:38.280 because it appears

00:17:39.240 that Powell has lied

00:17:41.400 under oath to Congress

00:17:42.960 about a $2.5 billion

00:17:45.600 renovation

00:17:46.480 of the palatial headquarters

00:17:49.060 of the Federal Reserve

00:17:50.540 in Washington, D.C.

00:17:52.540 Yes, it's shocking

00:17:54.080 and Bill Pulte himself

00:17:55.360 will be joining us

00:17:56.180 shortly in the Stone Zone

00:17:57.680 to break this all down.

00:17:58.900 So whatever you do,

00:18:00.040 stay tuned to The Zone.

00:18:02.060 I'm Roger Stone.

00:18:03.080 We'll be right back

00:18:03.920 with Director Pulte

00:18:05.500 and this bombshell story.

00:18:07.740 This is The Stone Zone

00:18:09.500 with Roger Stone.

00:18:20.080 I'm not just stepping stone.

00:18:23.340 The Stone Zone

00:18:24.760 on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:18:28.900 Welcome back.

00:18:31.340 We're back in The Stone Zone.

00:18:33.100 Today's New York Post reports

00:18:35.380 that the Federal Housing

00:18:36.880 Finance Agency Director

00:18:39.540 Bill Pulte

00:18:40.680 has called on Congress

00:18:43.500 to investigate

00:18:44.360 whether Federal Reserve Chairman

00:18:46.600 Jerome Powell

00:18:48.140 misled lawmakers 0.73

00:18:50.000 in his testimony

00:18:51.580 regarding a lavish

00:18:53.960 $2.5 billion revamp

00:18:57.180 of the Federal Reserve's

00:18:59.620 palatial D.C. headquarters.

00:19:02.540 Pulte has been a sharp critic

00:19:04.800 of Chairman Powell

00:19:06.260 pointing out

00:19:07.520 that despite the fact

00:19:08.680 that both inflation

00:19:10.260 and unemployment

00:19:11.540 are lower today

00:19:13.440 than when the Federal Reserve

00:19:14.880 last cut interest rates,

00:19:17.660 Powell has stoutly refused

00:19:19.940 to cut interest rates

00:19:21.680 on the American people.

00:19:23.060 Joining us now

00:19:23.900 is a man

00:19:24.680 who's all over

00:19:25.540 the news today.

00:19:26.840 He is the fifth

00:19:28.160 director of the

00:19:29.400 U.S. Federal Housing Agency.

00:19:31.580 In that position,

00:19:32.880 he also oversees

00:19:34.220 and serves as chairman

00:19:35.700 of both Fannie Mae

00:19:37.340 and Freddie Mac,

00:19:38.520 the two principal

00:19:40.020 mortgage vehicles

00:19:41.240 for the federal government,

00:19:42.460 as well as overseeing

00:19:44.120 the Federal Home Loan Banks.

00:19:46.060 Bill Pulte,

00:19:46.880 welcome in

00:19:47.740 to The Stone Zone.

00:19:49.060 Thank you, Roger.

00:19:50.240 Always good to be with you.

00:19:51.300 What a crazy day, huh?

00:19:52.860 It really is.

00:19:53.880 You've raised

00:19:54.340 some very serious questions here.

00:19:56.900 You've called

00:19:57.620 for a congressional investigation.

00:19:59.380 Break this down for us,

00:20:00.440 if you will.

00:20:01.840 Well, I really haven't heard

00:20:03.060 from a lot of people

00:20:03.860 that I heard from today

00:20:05.100 in a long time.

00:20:06.380 I mean, it's everywhere,

00:20:07.660 and I think that it really

00:20:09.500 strikes a chord

00:20:10.180 with people, Roger.

00:20:11.200 I don't think it's really

00:20:12.080 about what I did

00:20:13.660 or President Trump

00:20:14.860 or yourself

00:20:15.480 or anyone else

00:20:16.360 in this world.

00:20:17.000 I think it really has to do

00:20:18.160 with Jerome Powell

00:20:19.520 and his actions.

00:20:20.200 You know, we had to deal

00:20:20.960 with this guy

00:20:21.540 all throughout COVID,

00:20:23.240 as you remember.

00:20:24.680 Everybody's so used

00:20:25.500 to seeing this guy

00:20:26.180 on TV during COVID,

00:20:28.260 and now he's still here,

00:20:29.720 but, you know,

00:20:30.620 he's out there doing

00:20:31.460 a $2.5 billion renovation

00:20:33.080 on a building,

00:20:33.980 which, you know,

00:20:34.840 I know a lot

00:20:35.380 about construction, Roger.

00:20:36.920 It would be very hard

00:20:38.220 for me to spend

00:20:38.860 $2.5 billion

00:20:39.640 on a renovation,

00:20:41.540 just to be frank.

00:20:42.520 And then on top of it

00:20:44.620 is he's sitting there

00:20:45.880 and not lowering interest rates

00:20:47.480 despite inflation being lower.

00:20:49.280 So the whole thing

00:20:50.620 stinks to high heaven,

00:20:52.220 and we're going to get

00:20:53.840 to the bottom of it.

00:20:55.400 Yeah, I mean,

00:20:56.200 it's really shocking.

00:20:57.560 He won't cut interest rates

00:20:59.480 despite the fact

00:21:00.540 that today

00:21:01.580 both inflation

00:21:02.920 and unemployment

00:21:03.940 are lower

00:21:04.800 than the last time

00:21:06.460 the Federal Reserve

00:21:07.540 cut interest rates

00:21:08.700 ahead of the 2024 elections.

00:21:13.120 Very clearly

00:21:13.960 a political move

00:21:14.860 designed to try

00:21:15.700 to help Joe Biden.

00:21:17.120 That didn't work out

00:21:18.440 so well.

00:21:19.560 But his whole

00:21:20.440 let him eat,

00:21:21.500 take mentality

00:21:22.920 is really offensive.

00:21:24.400 He said before Congress

00:21:25.920 that this $2.5 billion

00:21:29.520 renovation

00:21:30.960 of the Federal Reserve's

00:21:33.580 incredibly palatial headquarters,

00:21:36.560 he specifically said

00:21:38.000 there is no VIP dining room,

00:21:40.220 there is no new marble,

00:21:42.240 there are no special elevators,

00:21:45.120 there are no new water features,

00:21:47.720 there's no beehives,

00:21:49.120 there's no roof terrace gardens,

00:21:52.060 and none of that

00:21:54.040 turns out to be true.

00:21:55.160 According to the plan

00:21:56.160 approved by the government,

00:21:58.580 pen pushers,

00:22:00.300 their private dining room

00:22:01.960 on level four

00:22:03.140 is being completely restored,

00:22:05.140 that there is

00:22:05.880 a new private elevator

00:22:08.060 for the use

00:22:09.100 of the Fed governors

00:22:10.600 that will discharge them 0.76

00:22:12.560 at the dining suite level.

00:22:14.440 The document expressly mentions

00:22:16.320 a vegetated roof garden

00:22:18.980 with urban wildlife

00:22:21.380 and a spectacular view

00:22:24.400 of D.C. skyline

00:22:26.240 as well as new water

00:22:28.800 and marble features.

00:22:30.520 So it appears to me

00:22:32.740 that he lied

00:22:34.560 and he lied

00:22:35.340 on a material matter.

00:22:37.080 I was once accused

00:22:37.920 of lying to Congress,

00:22:39.320 but I had no motive to lie

00:22:40.940 and no misstatement

00:22:42.040 I made to Congress

00:22:43.100 covered any underlying crime,

00:22:45.620 nor was it material

00:22:46.680 to Russian collusion

00:22:47.780 because there was

00:22:49.220 no Russian collusion.

00:22:50.840 In this case,

00:22:51.580 there is a $2.5 billion plan.

00:22:55.460 While the American people

00:22:56.940 are struggling,

00:22:58.160 struggling certainly

00:22:59.020 to buy a home

00:23:00.120 or to buy a car,

00:23:02.500 I don't know

00:23:03.500 how he justifies

00:23:04.620 his position

00:23:05.380 other than to say

00:23:06.500 tariffs,

00:23:07.580 which is not much

00:23:08.680 of an answer.

00:23:10.820 Well, he's got real problems

00:23:12.540 and he's going to continue

00:23:14.220 to have real problems

00:23:15.240 because, you know,

00:23:16.260 people look the other way

00:23:17.260 for a long period of time.

00:23:18.640 We had COVID.

00:23:19.860 We had all these different things

00:23:21.460 going on in our economy.

00:23:22.940 But when you start

00:23:24.060 messing with people's money

00:23:25.320 for no reason whatsoever,

00:23:26.780 which is what he's doing

00:23:28.220 in my opinion,

00:23:28.980 I think that it's just

00:23:30.660 a matter of time

00:23:31.380 before this gets worse

00:23:32.460 for him.

00:23:33.300 And I wouldn't be surprised

00:23:34.720 to see there be investigations.

00:23:36.840 And, you know,

00:23:37.560 we'll see where it goes

00:23:38.300 from there, Roger.

00:23:39.100 But, you know,

00:23:39.880 this is a cautionary tale

00:23:41.240 for, frankly,

00:23:42.420 for me and for other people

00:23:43.780 who serve in government,

00:23:45.120 but also people

00:23:46.140 who, frankly,

00:23:47.380 make money

00:23:48.040 and become wealthy.

00:23:49.540 You just can never

00:23:50.800 become detached

00:23:52.060 from reality

00:23:53.340 like it appears

00:23:54.280 Jerome Powell has become

00:23:55.800 because, you know,

00:23:57.680 you sit there

00:23:58.220 and you think to yourself,

00:23:59.700 you know,

00:23:59.900 President Trump

00:24:00.520 called him a stubborn mule. 0.62

00:24:02.120 And you sit there

00:24:03.020 and you think to yourself,

00:24:03.920 this just doesn't seem right.

00:24:05.460 How could somebody

00:24:06.140 think like this?

00:24:07.380 And honestly, Roger,

00:24:09.220 I think that Jerome Powell

00:24:10.560 has created his own reality

00:24:12.180 where he somehow thinks

00:24:14.020 that it's fine

00:24:14.900 that he has created

00:24:16.200 this two and a half

00:24:16.880 billion dollar renovation

00:24:17.900 and that he hasn't

00:24:19.140 lowered interest rates.

00:24:20.720 And I don't know

00:24:21.160 what reality that is,

00:24:23.060 but it's certainly not one

00:24:24.340 that I would ever

00:24:24.940 want to live in.

00:24:26.120 You know,

00:24:26.480 the excuse he gives

00:24:27.940 is tariffs.

00:24:29.480 He and many

00:24:31.000 in the economics

00:24:32.340 establishment

00:24:32.980 have been conditioned

00:24:34.040 to treat tariffs

00:24:34.940 as inherently harmful.

00:24:37.000 I think that's false.

00:24:38.820 Here's the truth.

00:24:40.000 Tariffs are one 1.00

00:24:40.820 of the few forms

00:24:41.600 of taxation

00:24:42.300 that actually preserve

00:24:43.600 a government's

00:24:44.660 accountability

00:24:45.140 to its citizens.

00:24:46.300 Tariffs tie 0.92

00:24:47.800 state revenue

00:24:48.740 to national production

00:24:50.160 and trade policy.

00:24:51.880 Tariffs will allow 1.00

00:24:52.900 citizens to remain

00:24:54.000 sovereigns of the government

00:24:55.240 and income

00:24:56.440 and even consumption

00:24:57.400 taxes subjugate.

00:24:59.140 I think it is

00:25:00.620 a phony argument,

00:25:02.740 but the arrogance here,

00:25:05.260 the politicization

00:25:06.340 is kind of obvious.

00:25:08.480 He is also,

00:25:09.840 as we've had

00:25:10.920 Barry Habib,

00:25:11.840 the housing

00:25:12.540 and mortgage guru

00:25:14.800 on the show,

00:25:16.660 Powell stubbornly

00:25:17.860 insists that he doesn't

00:25:19.020 have the data

00:25:20.280 to justify

00:25:21.800 an interest rate cut.

00:25:23.900 You look at the data,

00:25:25.020 I mean,

00:25:25.280 it's like Barry points out,

00:25:26.940 you know,

00:25:27.160 1.6%

00:25:28.260 is the annualized

00:25:29.580 CPI number.

00:25:30.860 And that literally

00:25:31.600 tells you what prices are.

00:25:33.320 And you're running

00:25:34.340 at 1.6%,

00:25:35.660 but your interest rate

00:25:36.760 is 4.5%.

00:25:37.800 I mean,

00:25:38.480 anybody with a napkin

00:25:39.860 can figure out

00:25:40.640 that that's

00:25:41.180 2% to 3%

00:25:42.340 way too high.

00:25:43.900 And I personally

00:25:44.660 believe that

00:25:46.740 Jerome Powell

00:25:47.680 is purposely doing this

00:25:49.000 because he hates

00:25:49.680 the president

00:25:50.280 and because he wants

00:25:51.920 to hurt the president.

00:25:53.240 And it's very sad

00:25:54.160 because Jerome Powell

00:25:55.100 is actually hurting

00:25:55.840 the American people.

00:25:57.000 You know,

00:25:57.200 President Trump

00:25:57.720 is very tough,

00:25:58.760 but a lot of American

00:25:59.780 people have these

00:26:00.800 interest expenses.

00:26:02.220 And so when you have,

00:26:03.060 you know,

00:26:03.520 CPI trailing it,

00:26:05.000 you know,

00:26:05.440 let's call it 1.6%

00:26:06.900 on a run rate basis,

00:26:08.720 you apply it over

00:26:09.600 a yearly period,

00:26:11.140 and then you've got

00:26:11.740 these interest rates

00:26:12.560 at 4.5%.

00:26:13.560 That's enough

00:26:14.680 to do substantial

00:26:15.580 damage to the economy.

00:26:17.740 And I think it's,

00:26:19.580 as I said,

00:26:20.040 I think it's going

00:26:20.520 to get worse,

00:26:21.060 and I think the data

00:26:21.760 is going to continue

00:26:22.560 to prove out

00:26:23.260 to be true

00:26:24.360 that he is doing this

00:26:25.860 with willful,

00:26:27.040 willful intent.

00:26:28.580 Yeah,

00:26:29.020 I mean,

00:26:29.240 looking at your statement,

00:26:30.780 it was interesting.

00:26:31.960 You not only pointed out

00:26:33.620 that he may have

00:26:34.280 dissembled

00:26:35.000 before Congress,

00:26:36.200 but you also

00:26:37.180 suggested that

00:26:38.620 the Congress

00:26:39.120 investigate

00:26:39.760 his

00:26:40.720 political bias.

00:26:42.200 I mean,

00:26:43.140 I think they have

00:26:43.760 the authority

00:26:44.260 to do that.

00:26:44.920 I've been through this.

00:26:46.480 They certainly

00:26:47.180 had no problem

00:26:48.000 subpoenaing

00:26:48.780 my email messages,

00:26:50.340 my text messages,

00:26:51.840 tracking all

00:26:52.460 of my phone calls.

00:26:53.460 By the way,

00:26:53.820 they found no evidence

00:26:54.740 of Russian collusion

00:26:56.100 or WikiLeaks collaboration,

00:26:57.740 despite what

00:26:58.820 some in the media

00:27:00.080 had reported.

00:27:01.280 Why could they not

00:27:02.400 subpoena

00:27:03.060 Jerome Powell's

00:27:04.480 emails

00:27:05.120 and text messages

00:27:06.100 for evidence

00:27:07.480 of political bias?

00:27:09.620 I think that would

00:27:10.360 be perfectly reasonable.

00:27:12.200 I think there'll be

00:27:12.960 a lot more coming out,

00:27:14.060 Roger.

00:27:14.460 I spoke with some

00:27:15.260 U.S. senators today,

00:27:16.480 and I think you also

00:27:17.840 saw that one

00:27:18.700 Senator,

00:27:19.560 Senator Lummis

00:27:21.120 texted,

00:27:22.100 or not texted,

00:27:22.920 tweeted the article

00:27:24.780 or tweeted the

00:27:26.040 quote retweet,

00:27:27.000 let's call it,

00:27:27.940 my tweet about

00:27:29.240 saying that Congress

00:27:30.580 should investigate.

00:27:31.560 So I think a lot more

00:27:33.040 will come out,

00:27:33.940 and if Senator Lummis'

00:27:35.900 tweet is any indication

00:27:37.040 that people are watching,

00:27:38.720 I wouldn't be surprised

00:27:39.620 to see Congress

00:27:40.400 pick this up

00:27:41.120 and pick it up real quick.

00:27:42.600 Bill,

00:27:43.140 I want to ask you

00:27:44.220 about the importance

00:27:45.080 of the big,

00:27:45.840 beautiful bill.

00:27:46.700 Seems to be inching

00:27:48.000 closer and closer

00:27:49.080 to being reality.

00:27:51.120 Earlier in the show,

00:27:52.420 we doused a lot

00:27:53.600 of the disinformation

00:27:55.420 about the bill.

00:27:56.740 It will,

00:27:57.220 in fact,

00:27:58.060 eliminate taxes

00:27:59.360 on Social Security

00:28:00.660 for 88%

00:28:02.380 of Americans.

00:28:04.060 There are those

00:28:05.080 out there saying,

00:28:05.760 no,

00:28:05.880 it doesn't do that.

00:28:06.720 It does do that.

00:28:07.620 it could not be

00:28:09.140 completely eliminated

00:28:10.140 for structural reasons,

00:28:12.620 but there is

00:28:13.940 language in there

00:28:15.280 that has the effect

00:28:16.700 of doing away

00:28:17.660 with a complete

00:28:18.500 tax break

00:28:19.980 on 88%

00:28:21.640 of seniors.

00:28:23.660 Tell us about

00:28:24.760 how important

00:28:25.620 this bill is,

00:28:26.680 because I think

00:28:27.280 a lot of people

00:28:28.680 are buying into

00:28:29.640 the disinformation.

00:28:30.580 It's incredibly

00:28:32.900 important,

00:28:34.020 Roger.

00:28:34.340 I think it'll be

00:28:34.780 one of the hallmarks

00:28:35.580 of President Trump's

00:28:36.960 term.

00:28:37.520 I think that

00:28:38.300 this will actually

00:28:39.880 set off the golden age.

00:28:41.500 You know,

00:28:41.620 I've talked a long time

00:28:42.580 about how there's

00:28:43.320 going to be a housing

00:28:43.940 boom in this country,

00:28:44.900 and you know how I feel

00:28:46.460 about what Jerome Powell

00:28:47.640 is doing to stunt

00:28:48.900 that housing boom.

00:28:50.740 But I actually think

00:28:51.600 that the big,

00:28:52.260 beautiful bill

00:28:52.840 will be the gasoline,

00:28:54.820 so to speak,

00:28:55.380 that will start

00:28:56.300 the fire

00:28:57.240 in a good way,

00:28:58.200 which is the housing boom.

00:28:59.420 And you look at

00:29:00.920 what's happening

00:29:01.480 right now in the country,

00:29:02.420 you have four years

00:29:03.360 of inflation

00:29:03.980 that have just

00:29:04.640 robbed Americans 1.00

00:29:06.020 of their savings,

00:29:07.520 robbed Americans 1.00

00:29:08.320 of their earning potential,

00:29:10.080 meaning nobody's been

00:29:11.300 able to really grow

00:29:12.140 their earnings

00:29:12.720 on an inflation-adjusted

00:29:14.040 standpoint.

00:29:14.920 So I think that this

00:29:15.900 is going to be

00:29:16.460 really a home run.

00:29:17.920 And you know,

00:29:18.380 this isn't investment

00:29:19.240 advice, Roger,

00:29:20.060 but I think that

00:29:20.720 the stock market

00:29:21.620 will boom.

00:29:23.340 I truly,

00:29:24.220 truly believe that.

00:29:26.400 The president

00:29:27.360 has spoken

00:29:28.720 about the possibility

00:29:30.080 of taking

00:29:30.920 Fannie Mae

00:29:31.860 and Freddie Mac,

00:29:33.340 the two housing

00:29:34.840 mortgage giants,

00:29:36.460 private.

00:29:38.420 It's a decision

00:29:39.360 he'll make down the road,

00:29:40.680 but I also noticed

00:29:41.580 that he very quickly

00:29:42.920 said whether he does

00:29:44.160 that or not,

00:29:44.820 we don't know

00:29:45.340 whether he's going

00:29:45.820 to do it,

00:29:46.340 he's still considering it,

00:29:48.180 the federal government

00:29:49.340 would continue

00:29:50.040 to guarantee mortgages

00:29:51.720 so there'd be

00:29:52.560 no damage,

00:29:53.580 no deterioration

00:29:55.220 among housing bonds.

00:29:56.740 I think it is

00:29:57.680 an innovative idea.

00:30:00.200 I salute the president

00:30:01.240 because he is

00:30:02.540 an outside-the-box thinker

00:30:04.020 and he views everything

00:30:06.960 under this prism

00:30:08.160 of what is best

00:30:10.020 for America,

00:30:11.100 what's best

00:30:11.680 for the taxpayers,

00:30:12.820 what is best

00:30:13.480 for U.S. citizens,

00:30:15.100 not our allies,

00:30:16.320 not illegals

00:30:17.520 who are in the country,

00:30:18.980 not the politicians

00:30:20.480 in the political class,

00:30:22.040 but what is best

00:30:23.760 for America?

00:30:26.600 He's an inspiring guy

00:30:28.340 to work for.

00:30:29.580 I don't know when he sleeps,

00:30:30.800 to be honest with you.

00:30:31.780 His energy

00:30:32.920 just astounds me.

00:30:35.260 His stamina

00:30:35.880 is extraordinary.

00:30:37.520 He's obviously

00:30:38.480 very courageous.

00:30:40.860 I mean,

00:30:41.560 they tried to kill him twice

00:30:42.980 and he still keeps

00:30:44.600 pushing forward

00:30:45.580 on this agenda

00:30:46.660 of reform.

00:30:47.540 I think there's

00:30:48.940 a high probability

00:30:50.000 that we are heading

00:30:51.900 into a golden age here.

00:30:55.240 He's had a heck of a run

00:30:57.140 just in the last week

00:30:58.880 with this decision

00:31:00.660 in the federal courts

00:31:02.320 that seems to me

00:31:03.640 to end the judicial tyranny

00:31:05.700 in which judges

00:31:07.840 that they shop for,

00:31:10.940 activists,

00:31:12.240 liberal judges,

00:31:13.420 issue these sweeping,

00:31:15.220 nationally impacting

00:31:17.620 rulings.

00:31:19.520 It looks to me like

00:31:20.420 that obstacle

00:31:21.360 is now out of the way.

00:31:24.320 USID going out of business,

00:31:26.640 stepping up

00:31:27.540 the deportation

00:31:28.560 of illegals.

00:31:30.040 The president's had

00:31:30.900 one heck of a week.

00:31:32.980 He really has

00:31:33.640 and he's a machine,

00:31:34.500 like you said,

00:31:35.160 and it's been publicly reported,

00:31:36.560 you know,

00:31:36.740 he stays late

00:31:37.460 into the Oval Office

00:31:38.620 and then it's been reported

00:31:40.220 that he goes up

00:31:41.460 into the residence

00:31:42.140 and that he continues

00:31:42.960 to work into the late hours

00:31:44.920 of the night.

00:31:45.480 This is a man

00:31:47.160 who is a machine.

00:31:48.800 I don't know

00:31:49.720 if they will make

00:31:50.840 another one

00:31:51.340 like this gentleman.

00:31:52.680 I mean,

00:31:52.900 think about it,

00:31:53.540 79 years old.

00:31:55.360 I mean,

00:31:55.600 who knows anybody

00:31:56.520 who's 79 years old

00:31:57.720 who's as efficient,

00:32:00.040 as functional,

00:32:01.380 and frankly,

00:32:02.200 brilliant as he is.

00:32:03.220 I mean,

00:32:03.400 he is brilliant.

00:32:04.180 I said this yesterday,

00:32:05.340 Roger,

00:32:05.660 on my Twitter.

00:32:06.300 I said,

00:32:06.800 I've never met

00:32:08.100 another person

00:32:08.940 who has as good

00:32:09.800 of instincts

00:32:10.280 as this gentleman

00:32:11.200 does in my entire life.

00:32:13.360 His instincts

00:32:14.220 are just otherworldly.

00:32:16.040 I don't care

00:32:16.380 what anybody says

00:32:17.180 about him.

00:32:17.680 I think he's brilliant.

00:32:19.280 Well,

00:32:19.500 the brilliance

00:32:20.320 of doing away

00:32:21.080 with the tax on tips,

00:32:22.540 for example,

00:32:23.420 which really did come

00:32:24.900 from a conversation

00:32:26.020 that he had

00:32:26.900 with a cocktail waitress

00:32:28.640 when he was campaigning

00:32:30.000 in Las Vegas.

00:32:31.500 I think it tipped

00:32:32.780 the silver state

00:32:33.900 of Nevada,

00:32:35.840 a swing state,

00:32:37.140 a state that Republicans

00:32:38.600 lost in the last

00:32:40.200 presidential election.

00:32:41.340 It was one

00:32:44.660 of the more brilliant

00:32:45.460 pieces of the big,

00:32:47.160 beautiful bill.

00:32:47.880 It will soon be

00:32:48.540 federal law.

00:32:49.860 He didn't get that

00:32:50.760 from some economist.

00:32:52.100 It came from the mind

00:32:53.660 of Donald J. Trump.

00:32:56.180 And his affinity

00:32:57.440 for working people,

00:32:58.520 this guy is a billionaire

00:32:59.720 who never really lost

00:33:01.880 his queen's roots.

00:33:03.680 He has the common touch.

00:33:05.400 He understands

00:33:06.080 the language

00:33:07.340 and the instincts

00:33:08.560 and the feelings

00:33:09.500 of the working people.

00:33:12.600 It's why I think

00:33:13.040 he's going to go down

00:33:13.960 in history

00:33:15.060 as one of our

00:33:15.800 greatest presidents.

00:33:17.880 All right,

00:33:18.300 I'm afraid we have

00:33:19.180 to wrap it there.

00:33:20.340 I want to thank

00:33:20.820 our guest,

00:33:21.560 Bill Pulte,

00:33:22.700 who is the director

00:33:24.500 of the Federal Housing

00:33:26.120 Finance Agency

00:33:27.380 and who today

00:33:28.740 called for a

00:33:29.500 congressional investigation

00:33:30.740 into Federal Reserve

00:33:32.600 Chairman Jerome Powell.

00:33:34.580 Bill,

00:33:34.800 thank you for entering

00:33:35.880 the Stone Zone.

00:33:36.880 This is the Stone Zone

00:33:39.180 with Roger Stone.

00:33:48.740 This is the Stone Zone

00:33:51.020 with Roger Stone.

00:34:01.540 I'm not just stepping stone.

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00:34:08.260 Podcast Network.

00:34:10.760 And we're back

00:34:11.980 in the Stone Zone.

00:34:13.680 Thanks again

00:34:14.520 to Bill Pulte,

00:34:15.820 the director

00:34:16.380 of the Federal

00:34:17.020 Housing Finance Agency.

00:34:19.600 Breaking news here

00:34:20.660 in the Stone Zone

00:34:21.900 calling for a

00:34:22.900 congressional investigation

00:34:23.920 into whether

00:34:25.360 Jerome Powell,

00:34:26.700 the chairman

00:34:27.300 of the Federal Reserve,

00:34:28.860 lied to Congress

00:34:29.940 about a $2.4 billion

00:34:32.560 renovation

00:34:34.260 to the palatial

00:34:35.380 headquarters

00:34:35.920 of the Federal Reserve.

00:34:38.240 Also,

00:34:39.040 Pulte criticized

00:34:39.860 the director

00:34:40.960 of the Fed

00:34:41.500 for his stout refusal

00:34:43.360 to cut interest rates

00:34:44.620 on the American people

00:34:45.600 despite the fact

00:34:46.480 that both the

00:34:47.240 inflation rate

00:34:48.480 and the unemployment rate,

00:34:50.300 the two measures

00:34:51.060 the Fed uses,

00:34:52.320 are lower

00:34:53.260 than they were

00:34:54.540 when the Fed

00:34:56.600 last cut rates

00:34:58.420 ahead of the

00:34:59.400 2024 election.

00:35:00.460 for election.

00:35:02.100 Meanwhile,

00:35:02.980 the University

00:35:04.360 of Pennsylvania

00:35:06.260 has reached

00:35:07.520 a settlement

00:35:08.060 with the U.S.

00:35:08.720 Department of Education

00:35:09.860 rejecting 0.95

00:35:11.700 transgender insanity 1.00

00:35:13.560 after letting 0.98

00:35:14.940 a biological man,

00:35:16.920 Leah Thomas,

00:35:18.260 dominate women 0.99

00:35:19.200 in swimming competitions.

00:35:21.200 UPenn has agreed

00:35:22.280 to give titles

00:35:23.160 and records

00:35:23.940 back to female athletes

00:35:25.940 who were robbed

00:35:27.100 of these honors

00:35:27.920 because they were

00:35:28.920 misappropriated

00:35:30.280 by male athletes

00:35:31.760 who were allowed

00:35:32.620 to compete

00:35:33.780 in female categories.

00:35:35.460 This is really insanity.

00:35:37.500 The Trump administration

00:35:38.500 initiated an investigation

00:35:39.900 into the University

00:35:41.060 of Pennsylvania

00:35:41.760 early this year

00:35:43.280 before freezing

00:35:44.740 $175 million

00:35:46.380 in funding

00:35:47.420 for the university

00:35:48.860 after it refused

00:35:50.360 to comply

00:35:51.140 with a DEI-related

00:35:53.640 executive order.

00:35:54.620 the feds

00:35:56.420 later determined

00:35:57.420 that UPenn

00:35:58.220 had in fact

00:35:58.860 violated

00:35:59.580 Title IX rules

00:36:02.160 allowing Thomas

00:36:03.500 to participate

00:36:04.380 in a female 0.96

00:36:06.060 swimming competition

00:36:07.420 denying opportunity

00:36:08.580 to competitors

00:36:10.020 who were

00:36:10.600 biological females. 1.00

00:36:13.700 University of Penn

00:36:14.760 officials

00:36:15.200 will be issuing

00:36:16.080 apologies

00:36:16.800 to the women

00:36:17.980 who were

00:36:18.480 adversely impacted

00:36:19.700 by their embrace

00:36:21.280 of this 0.99

00:36:21.800 transgender insanity. 1.00

00:36:23.400 This I think 1.00

00:36:24.760 shows how

00:36:25.300 the Trump administration

00:36:26.100 is fulfilling

00:36:27.380 its mandate

00:36:28.300 of eliminating

00:36:29.040 wokeism

00:36:30.280 from our culture

00:36:31.660 as the country

00:36:32.680 is no longer

00:36:33.500 held hostage

00:36:34.340 to the delusions

00:36:36.020 and perversions

00:36:37.800 of a fringe

00:36:39.180 leftist minority.

00:36:41.640 Meanwhile

00:36:42.000 the Congressional

00:36:43.060 Black Caucus 1.00

00:36:44.100 is big mad 0.99

00:36:45.580 after the corporate

00:36:47.060 retailer Target

00:36:48.340 announced

00:36:48.840 they would no longer

00:36:49.660 be giving money

00:36:50.540 to that

00:36:52.160 non-profit.

00:36:53.100 Target has been

00:36:53.800 giving at least

00:36:54.560 1.4 million

00:36:56.460 in annual donations

00:36:58.280 to the Congressional

00:36:59.360 Black Caucus Fund

00:37:00.480 as well as

00:37:01.500 additional money

00:37:02.240 to other

00:37:03.000 racial justice groups

00:37:04.880 for years

00:37:05.380 hoping to avoid

00:37:06.600 a multicultural

00:37:08.140 mob

00:37:09.100 from ransacking

00:37:10.020 their stores

00:37:10.820 like they did

00:37:12.120 after the death

00:37:13.420 of serial felon

00:37:14.960 George Floyd

00:37:15.920 back in 2020.

00:37:18.200 With Black Lives Matter

00:37:20.180 mania

00:37:20.860 waning

00:37:21.440 in recent years

00:37:22.560 Target has determined

00:37:24.040 they will no longer

00:37:24.940 have to participate

00:37:26.180 in this racial

00:37:28.140 protection racket

00:37:29.360 anymore.

00:37:30.280 They announced

00:37:31.160 back in January

00:37:32.520 they would be

00:37:33.360 cutting off

00:37:34.060 their funding

00:37:35.160 to the Congressional

00:37:36.120 Black Caucus

00:37:36.780 and similar

00:37:37.800 organizations.

00:37:39.380 The Congressional

00:37:40.480 Black Caucus

00:37:41.120 struck back

00:37:41.760 by announcing

00:37:42.360 a boycott

00:37:43.720 of Target

00:37:44.480 which I don't think

00:37:45.520 will be terribly

00:37:46.580 successful.

00:37:48.060 The Black Caucus

00:37:49.580 stated like

00:37:50.360 many of the

00:37:51.140 coalition leaders

00:37:51.980 and partner

00:37:52.520 organizations

00:37:53.140 that have chosen

00:37:54.340 to boycott

00:37:54.960 their stares

00:37:55.460 across the country

00:37:56.360 we found

00:37:56.940 that the

00:37:57.640 explanations

00:37:58.320 offered by

00:37:59.100 the leadership

00:37:59.600 of the Target

00:38:00.400 Corporation

00:38:01.040 fell woefully

00:38:02.660 short of what

00:38:03.720 our communities

00:38:04.380 deserve

00:38:04.920 and of the values

00:38:06.600 includes

00:38:07.540 of that Target

00:38:08.480 once touted.

00:38:10.480 So folks

00:38:11.260 if you're

00:38:11.720 shopping

00:38:12.200 this afternoon

00:38:13.200 let me

00:38:13.640 recommend

00:38:14.060 that you

00:38:14.520 drop

00:38:15.020 by

00:38:15.500 Target

00:38:16.240 showing

00:38:16.960 rare

00:38:17.600 courage

00:38:18.300 in this

00:38:19.220 atmosphere

00:38:19.880 no longer

00:38:21.200 willing to be

00:38:21.980 strong armed

00:38:23.060 by those

00:38:24.400 playing

00:38:25.080 the race

00:38:26.080 card.

00:38:26.560 It demonstrates

00:38:27.520 that it is

00:38:28.300 a new

00:38:29.060 day in

00:38:29.980 America

00:38:30.420 and we're

00:38:32.320 entering a

00:38:32.880 golden age

00:38:33.640 an age of

00:38:34.880 unprecedented

00:38:35.640 peace

00:38:36.220 prosperity

00:38:37.300 security

00:38:38.260 justice

00:38:38.900 and law

00:38:40.140 and order.

00:38:40.660 You can hear

00:38:41.520 about it

00:38:41.920 every day

00:38:42.580 here on

00:38:43.620 the stone

00:38:44.120 zone

00:38:44.500 on the

00:38:45.200 red

00:38:45.500 apple

00:38:46.120 audio

00:38:46.700 networks

00:38:47.340 until

00:38:48.000 tomorrow

00:38:48.640 God bless

00:38:49.500 you

00:38:49.780 and

00:38:50.340 God

00:38:50.940 speed.

00:38:51.460 thanks for

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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - July 03, 2025

The Stone Zone ｜ 07-02-25

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