The Stone Zone | 07-08-25
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Epstein was an alleged sex trafficker who was arrested in July of 2019 and charged with two counts of conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of minors. He was also charged with one count of soliciting minors to engage in commercial sexual acts, a charge that carries a penalty of up to 20 years in prison. But the DOJ and the FBI say there is no evidence that Epstein engaged in any of these crimes, and that he never even had a client list.
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Well, the controversy and furor over the sexual predator and accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein continued for its second day.
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Yesterday, the Department of Justice and the FBI announced that Epstein never had a client list, never engaged in child sex trafficking.
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There was no evidence that he was blackmailing anyone, and they insisted that he killed himself.
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I think the point that people are missing here is that there are sealed indictments and also the sealed search warrants sealed by the U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York in the federal court in that district because Jeffrey Epstein was indicted on July 8th, 2019 on two counts.
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They said that Epstein knowingly engaged in sex trafficking by recruiting, enticing, harboring, transporting, and maintaining minors, some as young as 14 years old, to engage in commercial sexual acts.
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They said the location were both of these crimes for both his Manhattan townhouse and his Palm Beach estate, and they said that these crimes took place between 2002 and 2005.
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He was also indicted on a second count, conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of minors.
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The allegation was that Epstein conspired with others, I think that was key, to commit sex trafficking by setting up a network that facilitated the sexual exploitation of underage girls.
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The takeaways, I think, are pretty clear that he operated a vast network.
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That was the government's word, that he was enticing and utilizing minors.
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And we know, because we have eyes, that when he was arrested, the FBI removed not only hard drives, but also DVDs from his home in Manhattan, which, by the way, is the single most expensive single-family residential property in Manhattan.
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His island, his island, orgy island in the Virgin Islands, as my friend Sean Hannity calls it, his ranch in New Mexico, and his apartment in Paris.
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So, clearly, he was indicted on the basis of information that is now sealed, which means the FBI and the DOJ do have evidence that he engaged in all of those activities.
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The announcement yesterday, of course, contradicts directly a statement made by Attorney General Pam Bondi, who told Fox News earlier this year that the Epstein client list had been sitting on her desk waiting for review as part of a directive from President Trump.
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Now, suddenly, that list suddenly does not exist.
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The whole thing is very strange, to put it mildly.
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Whether or not there was a list is pretty easily debunked when they say no, because the Gateway Pundit tried to intervene in the lawsuit of Virginia Giuffre versus Ghislaine Maxwell, demanding that the court unseal the records as to Epstein's elite pedo network,
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until a mysterious John Doe appeared and filed an objection in that case, and the federal courts in the Southern District of New York elected to leave the list sealed.
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If there was no list, how could they have made such a ruling?
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Then you come to the question of whether Epstein killed himself.
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New York medical examiner Michael Baden, probably, Dr. Baden, probably one of the most respected pathologists in the country,
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at the request of Epstein's family examined his body and said that the injuries he sustained were not consistent with his being hung.
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Back when Epstein was first charged in Florida with a sex crime, the police chief of Palm Beach did a six-month undercover investigation,
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and he turned over to the state's attorney a case in which Epstein had sex trafficked 33 underage girls.
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He also was charged with statutory rape, or could have been.
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There was sufficient evidence to bring a case for both of those violations.
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The police chief was shocked when the state's attorney turned around and charged Epstein with one count of solicitation.
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That's like walking into a bar and trying to pick up a hooker.
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He was extremely suspicious that the state's attorney for Palm Beach County had either been intimidated or paid off.
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Interestingly enough, after Epstein pled to that one minor count, which was like a slap on the wrist,
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the state's attorney left that office, opened a private law firm, hung his shingle,
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and immediately began representing a number of Epstein's associates in their defense.
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But the police chief, Michael Reiter, went to the U.S. attorney for Southern Florida, that would be Alexander Acosta,
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and said that there was something wrong here, that he had turned over an airtight case for sex trafficking and statutory rape,
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and that the state prosecutor had reduced the charges to slap on the wrist.
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Acosta conducted his own independent investigation, whereupon he simply rubber-stamped the state charges,
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It is only because the Palm Beach Post engaged in a multi-year legal battle to get this information unsealed
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that we know that Epstein was ultimately sentenced to 18 months, of which he only spent 15 months,
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but unlike every other sex criminal in the state of Florida,
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he was allowed to serve his sentence in the air-conditioned Palm Beach County Jail,
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Years later, when Acosta was appointed Secretary of Labor in the first Trump administration,
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he was asked, in preparation for his confirmation hearings,
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what he would say and why he essentially gave Jeffrey Epstein a slap on the wrist.
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My source tells me that he said I will simply tell the truth,
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that I was contacted by the CIA, who said that he was one of ours,
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and I was to rubber-stamp the state charge and seal the case.
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So my belief here is that Jeffrey Epstein was working for the Central Intelligence Agency,
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but I also believe that he was a blackmailer for hire,
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that he was most likely working for a number of other nations,
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But we do know that there was enormous pressure on our government from the British royal family,
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and therefore the British government, to seal this entire matter.
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When they say who were his clients, we do know who his clients are.
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I name a number of them in my 2015 book, The Clintons' War on Women.
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They include former U.S. Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell of Maine.
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They include former Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico.
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They include the former Israeli Prime Minister Elhud Barak.
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I don't think they were going to the island for the weather.
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So I'm perplexed because I know Kash Patel personally,
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When he says he doesn't have the evidence, I believe he is telling us the truth.
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That's because I believe that those DVDs and those hard drives
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by the Justice Department and the FBI under Joe Biden,
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which explains perfectly why he has no evidence.
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By the way, the FBI does not have the authority to unseal the sealed material in New York.
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but they can only do it with the approval of the court.
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So what I would suggest is that Attorney General Bondi direct the U.S.
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attorney in the Southern District of New York to move immediately to unseal the search warrants
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and all of the grand jury material that was presented when Jeffrey Epstein was charged.
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That would demonstrate that there is, in fact, evidence of substantial crimes by Epstein.
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Don't know what to make of this videotape that they posted.
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It didn't show me much, but now, strangely, it is claimed that there's a minute missing from it.
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I actually think it may have made the entire situation muddier rather than clearer.
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That's my immediate take on the Epstein situation.
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I don't expect this to move out of the news very quickly,
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only because of the inconsistencies between what the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, said several months ago
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and the stunning claim now that they have no evidence.
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I did see she tried to explain that today by saying she had the entire matter on her desk,
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but she also said there were hundreds of hours of videotapes that were, in essence, child pornography.
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Well, no one suggests that they should be released because, of course,
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But anyone watching them, anyone in law enforcement watching them,
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can identify who the predators were, who it was that were abusing those children.
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I think the American people have a right to know.
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We're going to continue to follow this story right here on The Stone Zone.
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I was the first major author in the United States to break the story in my book,
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But when I pointed out on X that the difference between Donald Trump,
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who they tried falsely to claim had some inappropriate actions with Epstein and Steve Bannon,
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was that Bannon visited Jeffrey Epstein in his New York home and in his Paris apartment,
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when Donald Trump never visited any of those locations.
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To my surprise, I then saw that Elon Musk tweeted Steve Bannon is on the Epstein list.
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Well, he said that about a week ago about Donald Trump.
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Technically, of course, we do know that not only did Bannon visit Epstein,
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but he filmed 15 hours of a documentary with him and various news sources report that Steve Bannon
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coached Jeffrey Epstein in preparation for a 60 Minutes interview,
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Coming up, shocking new news regarding John F. Kennedy's assassination.
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After six decades, the CIA finally admits that they knew who Lee Harvey Oswald was
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Doesn't mean he killed JFK, by the way, but we'll break that down when we come back.
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Last week, CIA Director John Ratcliffe released a review
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directly implicating Obama-era officials such as former CIA Director John Brennan
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as a part of the malicious conspiracy to frame President Donald Trump as a Russian agent.
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In fact, it was pointed out by Miranda Devine of the New York Post
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that John Brennan has a serious perjury problem at his hands
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because Brennan's sworn statements to federal investigators
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seem to contradict his written orders regarding the genesis of Russiagate.
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See, we've argued here in the Stone Zone that Brennan is just the low-hanging fruit
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who the Trump administration should consider going after immediately
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in order to gain the momentum and effort to get all of the deep state criminals behind bars.
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But while Ratcliffe's report on Russiagate certainly confirms the obvious,
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the influential chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Representative Rick Crawford,
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came out yesterday and said that Ratcliffe's report is little more than a whitewash
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that protects the deep state from its true culpability in the crimes against Donald Trump.
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Crawford appealed directly to President Trump in a letter asking him to declassify additional documents.
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While I'm pleased to see the CIA take the first step of acknowledging the political abuse
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and trade cap problems associated with the 2016 Intelligence Community Assessment,
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I'm disappointed the agency was permitted to whitewash the full extent of their problems.
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I write to report to you that this review fails to disclose critical information,
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offers misleading judgments, and continues to protect the deep state.
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Congressman Crawford takes offense with the finding of Ratcliffe's report
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that the Russiagate conspiracy should not be interpreted as a broader systematic problem
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with the analytic processes or standards, but more specifically, it was part of a willful conspiracy.
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Congressman Crawford said it's abysmal that they would put out a memo with half-truths, inaccuracies,
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and blatant omissions about the full extent of the Russian collusion hoax and the deep state's role.
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In other words, they released this report while holding the Intelligence Committee's report
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on the exact same issue hostage for seven years because it includes classified documents
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So, in other words, CIA Director Ratcliffe's shocking review is more moving along,
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We're supposed to believe that only a few bad actors committed the Russiagate conspiracy
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and that there was no major wholesale charges, changes, to the way the CIA, the FBI,
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and other deep state alphabet soup organizations in Washington operated.
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After an extraordinary tug of war between the House Oversight Committee,
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specifically the subcommittee headed by Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna of Florida,
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examining the material released from the National Archives regarding the assassination of President John F. Kennedy,
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the CIA finally admitted that one of the agency's top psychological warfare experts had extensive contact with Lee Harvey Oswald
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in the months leading up to Kennedy's assassination.
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This is significant because the FBI and the CIA have long denied knowledge of Oswald prior to the assassination.
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So now it seems to me would be a good time to revisit the 194-page dossier compiled by the CIA about Lee Harvey Oswald
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Researcher Jeff Morley put together a tremendous analysis on this report.
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In fact, we're going to have him in the zone here later in the week.
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The Oswald file had many interesting revelations,
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but the most important one was that a secretive CIA front group known as the Special Investigations Group
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received 17 reports about Oswald in the four years before Kennedy was assassinated,
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including five FBI dispatches in the three months just before Kennedy was killed.
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At least 35 CIA employees handled dozens of reports on Oswald between 1959 and 1963,
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including a half dozen officers who reported personally to CIA counterintelligence chief James Jesus Angleton
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Additionally, CIA operations officer Ruben Efron was tasked with monitoring Oswald's private communications
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during the first 18 months of Kennedy's presidency.
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Efron reported directly to James Jesus Angleton, the CIA's counterintelligence chief,
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So Oswald clearly far more important to the CIA than they have ever previously admitted.
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He was very much on their radar, despite the fact that they have denied that for six decades,
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Now, CIA director at the time, John McComb, lied to the Warren Commission under oath,
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claiming that the agency never contacted Oswald, never interviewed him,
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and never received or solicited any reports or information from Oswald or about Oswald.
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Deputy Director Richard Helms, who would later become the director of the FBI,
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also lied, claiming that CIA had, quote, very little information, close quote, about Oswald
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before the Kennedy assassination, when they knew every granular detail about Oswald,
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such as his height, eye color, precise whereabouts, his alleged communist recruitment activity,
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his alleged contact with the KGB, his wife meeting, his security clearance,
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his trip to the American consulate in Mexico City, and so forth.
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The CIA lies obviously tainted the Warren Commission's findings and prevented a real investigation
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into the Kennedy assassination from taking place.
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More information into the Kennedy assassination desperately needs to be released to the public.
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For example, the House Select Committee on Assassinations that was formed in the late 70s
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conducted a full investigation, but they reached the conclusion that organized crime
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Well, they're not wrong about organized crime being involved in it,
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but none of the information released from the National Archives to date
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in response to President Trump's order for full disclosure includes the involvement of the mob,
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specifically the recordings of Carlos Marcello, the mobster who ran the mafia in both Texas and Louisiana,
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recordings taken in his jail cell both before and after the Kennedy assassination,
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in which it is alleged by the Assassinations Review Board
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and the House Select Committee on Assassinations that he knew in advance and bragged later about Kennedy's assassination.
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None of that information has been released to the public in this most recent list of documents
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or audios or videos that should have been released.
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The first round of the JFK files released by the Trump administration were a great start,
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but we need to see the entire tranche of related documents to understand the depths of the CIA's crimes
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One of the great struggles has been over the George Joannides material.
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Joannides was the CIA operative who we now know, due to this disclosure,
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operated under an alias and had a false driver's license under the name Howard Gebbler.
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This contradicts decades of denials from the CIA that Joannides was, in fact, Howard Gebbler.
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It was under this alias that Joannides worked with anti-communist activists called the Cuban Student Directorate.
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The CIA has long been denied that they set that front up, too, which now, according to this disclosure,
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Joannides served as the deputy chief of the CIA's Miami branch,
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whereas he was a specialist in psychological warfare.
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Joannides' anti-communist front had significant contact with Oswald,
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with those activists getting into a public scuffle with Oswald and his crew.
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His crew, by the way, did include Raphael Angel Cruz,
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You can see those photos in the Warren Commission report.
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And Judith Vary Baker, longtime mistress to Lee Harvey Oswald,
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has confirmed that Angel Cruz, as he was known at the time, was well known to them.
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The purpose of that scuffle, of course, was to position Oswald for being set up later as a patsy
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What's interesting, of course, is that the address that appeared on the pro-Castro leaflets
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that Oswald was handing out on the streets of New Orleans
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was the office address of an FBI operative and informant named Guy Bannister.
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So there is substantial evidence that Oswald was being manipulated.
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And interestingly enough, when he was arrested by the New Orleans police,
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this was just prior to a television debate he was to appear on,
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No, he called the head of the local office of the FBI,
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but huge credit goes to Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna of Florida,
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also to the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard,
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because they have stayed on this story and they got a 60-day extension.
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Coming up, of course, will be the hearings on the brutal assassination
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And once again there, the government's claim and the reality do not match.
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Sirhan Sirhan, the man who was convicted of trying to kill Kennedy,
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two prominent athletes, wrestled Sirhan to the ground
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The problem, of course, here is that according to the Los Angeles County Coroner,
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one of the best known and most respected pathologists in the country,
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Senator Robert Kennedy was killed by two point-blank shots
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Therefore, it would be impossible for Sirhan Sirhan to be the shooter.
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I believe that the actual assassin is Eugene Cesar Thane,
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who got his position as a security guard in the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles
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and resigned and returned to his home in the Philippines
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I'm hoping, since I know, having seen a terrific interview
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that Secretary Kennedy will be called as a witness
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when they get to the phase of their investigation
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in which they examine the murder of Senator Robert Kennedy.
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The other great unanswered question revolves around someone known as the polka dot lady.
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although there are reports that she lives openly in Tarzana, California.
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I believe the House Committee is trying to track her down
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and get her name so they can give her a subpoena
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The U.S. Internal Revenue Service has announced
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that they will no longer be enforcing a longstanding rule
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that stop them from endorsing political candidates in their churches.
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In other words, a pastor could not urge his flock
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to support or not support a particular candidate.
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that political activity by churches would no longer be restricted.
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is an infringement on their free speech rights.
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tied to the later vice president and president.
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They have been converse under the so-called Johnson Amendment
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to curtail their ability to talk about politics.
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This is an obvious infringement of their First Amendment rights,
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those politicians who don't want their records talked about.
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It's abundantly clear which party is more in line
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although the Republican Party is very far from perfect,
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and it has its share of subverters and other scumbags.
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It is the Democrats who represent the party of abortion,
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and allowing evil to rend all levels of our society.
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So the Democrat Party is probably quite upset about this ruling.
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it will mean that Christians can be more affected
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This means that they will be held more steadfastly
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is great news for anyone who cares about free speech
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She's ordering her New Director's Initiative Group,