The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The Stone Zone | 07-31-25


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Summary

It turns out, Hillary Clinton actually signed off on the plan hatched by her top campaign advisors to smear then-candidate Donald Trump with false claims of Russian collusion, and also to distract from her own mounting legal problems regarding the illicit, illegal email server she was using during the 2016 campaign. All of this is according to explosive intelligence files that were declassified Thursday by Tulsi Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:00:05.560 You are now entering the Stone Zone.
00:00:09.040 Well, we found out that Hillary Rotten Clinton actually signed off on the plan hatched by
00:00:15.920 her top campaign advisors to smear then-candidate Donald Trump with false claims of Russian
00:00:22.320 collusion and also to distract from her own mounting legal problems regarding the illicit
00:00:29.400 illegal email server she was using during the 2016 campaign.
00:00:34.080 All of this is according to explosive intelligence files that were declassified Thursday by Tulsi
00:00:41.460 Garbard, the Director of National Intelligence.
00:00:44.380 The 24-page Intelligence Annex was compiled from memos and emails obtained by the Obama
00:00:51.460 administration in the lead-up to Election Day that laid out the confidential conversations
00:00:57.720 between leaders of the Democrat National Committee, including then-chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz,
00:01:04.880 she's kind of like every man's first wife, and liberal billionaire George Soros, who was
00:01:11.620 interfering in American politics through his Open Society Foundation.
00:01:15.740 The plot, now laid bare by Tulsi Gabbard, was the brainchild of the Clinton campaign's then-foreign
00:01:24.480 policy advisor Julianne Smith, including, and I quote, raising the theme of Putin's support
00:01:31.580 for Trump and, quote, subsequently scaring public opinion towards the notion that it needs to
00:01:38.240 equate to the Russian leader's political influence campaign with actual hacking of the election
00:01:44.720 and infrastructure. We now know that this has no basis in fact whatsoever.
00:01:49.560 The entire Russian collusion hoax was cooked up by Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, who green-lighted it
00:01:58.580 in an Oval Office meeting, Vice President Joe Biden, who helpfully suggested perhaps we could charge
00:02:05.780 General Michael Flynn with violations of the Logan Act. John Brennan, the disgraced CIA director, who we now
00:02:16.400 know, based on these declassified documents, actually forced the use of the Steele dossier to be included
00:02:26.020 in the intelligence briefing for President Barack Obama. You see, that created the rationale for
00:02:36.160 them to launch the FBI investigation, also known as Crossfire Hurricane. They also used it as the
00:02:45.480 rationale for the appointment of Robert Mueller, Silent Bob. We now know why he was silent when he
00:02:52.520 testified to Congress about the final results of his investigation. It was very clear that Mueller was
00:02:59.920 non-composimentous. He was around the bend. When he was asked whether he was familiar with Fusion GPS,
00:03:09.040 that's the company that set up the meeting in Trump Tower with Donald Trump Jr., that was supposed to be
00:03:16.400 the handoff of damaging information about Hillary Clinton, but turned out to be nothing of the
00:03:22.700 sort. He had said he'd never heard of Fusion GPS. When he was asked whether he knew that the woman who was
00:03:31.680 the chief prosecutor in my case, Jeannie Rhee, had also represented Hillary Clinton and the Clinton
00:03:39.200 Foundation, a very clear conflict of interest because I had written extensively about the Clinton
00:03:45.300 Foundation and its corruption. Mueller said he was unfamiliar with that. They failed to mention that Jeannie Rhee was
00:03:53.000 Mueller's law partner and the Clinton Foundation was a client of their firm. But Robert Mueller didn't know that.
00:04:01.260 Now, it's all coming home to roost now and there's more coming. Very clearly, sources tell me, that the next
00:04:08.000 bombshell is going to be absolute proof by declassification of documents that the 2020 election
00:04:16.400 was rigged with the assistance of two of our intelligence agencies. So when you hear that in the next 48 hours,
00:04:25.080 remember that you heard it here first. Meanwhile, the former CIA director, John Brennan, the guy who we learned
00:04:34.860 through these declassified documents just days ago, forced the inclusion of the fake steel dossier.
00:04:42.560 That's the report that was fabricated and paid for by Hillary Clinton that claimed that Donald Trump had
00:04:50.360 frolicked with Russian prostitutes when he visited Moscow as a private businessman.
00:04:56.060 Brennan is still trying to salvage his greatly damaged reputation. He appeared on MSNBC, where else,
00:05:05.760 on Thursday morning to do some damage control as the Trump administration releases are exposing the
00:05:12.520 entire Russian collusion hoax and Brennan's own role. Brennan on this show insisted the steel dossier
00:05:19.420 he paid for Hillary, quote, played no role in the intelligence assessment report. The problem is that that is a lie.
00:05:27.620 It's proven by all of the declassified documents released by Tulsi Gabbard. But he still, three days ago,
00:05:37.120 I watched him on MSNBC. He was saying, well, the steel dossier, quote, might be true. This is outrageous,
00:05:44.860 because the man continued to push a lie, a lie that hampered Donald Trump's presidency for the first
00:05:52.940 three years of his term. CIA Director John Ratcliffe recently announced that a new CIA report
00:06:00.360 had revealed that FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and the Director of National
00:06:08.080 Intelligence James Clapper worked together to purposely corrupt the Trump-Russia investigation
00:06:13.500 in 2016 before Trump even entered the office. The three corrupt Obama officials included the steel
00:06:20.600 dossier, as I said, in their quest to screw Trump, their words, knowing at the time that it was a lie
00:06:28.260 and a fraud. MSNBC asked Brennan about the new Russiagate documents in the DOJ Strike Force team
00:06:36.080 that's being assembled to investigate the hoax and hopefully prosecute those responsible.
00:06:43.500 Brennan looked pretty nervous to me. He said, putting together an internal strike force to
00:06:47.920 take a look at this information is certainly understandable. But I also like to think that
00:06:52.860 professionals at the Department of Justice will dismiss any of these criminal referrals because
00:06:57.260 they are baseless, because they really are. This guy is whistling past the graveyard, folks.
00:07:03.880 I think he's going down. I pray that he's going down. I saw what he did to General Michael Flynn.
00:07:09.220 I know what he tried to do to me and my family. And above all, I saw what they tried to do to
00:07:14.240 Donald Trump. Either we have a two-tier justice system, which everyone is treated equally, or we
00:07:20.400 have a one-tier justice system in which liberal Democrats and their compatriots and co-conspirators
00:07:26.840 aren't held responsible when they act illegally. In this case, this is seditious conspiracy.
00:07:35.960 This is treasonous. And someone has to be held responsible. Meanwhile, Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas
00:07:45.500 has exposed himself as the neocon traitor that he is. Desperately now trying to undermine Director of National
00:07:53.860 Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and once again protect the deep state. I'm a little surprised because Senator
00:08:01.220 Cotton strongly supported the nomination of Tulsi Gabbard to the position of Director of National
00:08:07.140 Intelligence, voted for her confirmation both in committee and on the Senate floor. But reports
00:08:14.020 that Cotton has now put forward legislation that would essentially hamstring Gabbard in her new role as
00:08:21.380 the Director of National Intelligence and prevent her from releasing documents that paint deep state
00:08:26.980 entities into a negative light. This is being sent to you, masquerading to the American people as a
00:08:34.100 cost-cutting bill. But the truth is, it takes away the declassification authority from the Director of
00:08:42.420 National Intelligence and gives it to the FBI and the NSA. Now, both the FBI and the National
00:08:51.220 National Security apparatus were the exact people who invented and fabricated the Russian collusion
00:08:58.180 hoax and then hit it up, pardon me, then hit it from the American people. So this, I think, is really
00:09:06.260 extraordinarily dangerous. That's why I believe that Cotton needs a primary challenger and I will be
00:09:12.900 supporting whoever steps up and challenges him. Cotton is a vestige of the Bush-era neocon Republican Party,
00:09:21.460 and frankly, it's just time for him to go away. He is not someone who believes in Trump's America
00:09:25.940 first Republican Party. And this attempt to undermine Tulsi Gabbard, I think it is outrageous.
00:09:33.700 Meanwhile, as I say, the declassified annex from the 2023 report by Special Counsel John Durham was
00:09:41.140 released today. This is the exact document or documents that FBI Director Kash Patel found in a burn bag in a
00:09:51.380 locked room at the FBI headquarters, meaning they were on the verge of destroying this absolute proof
00:09:58.020 that Hillary Clinton and her confederates were all involved in a scheme devised by her campaign senior
00:10:06.580 advisors to smear Trump by publicly raising the theme of Putin's support for Trump. We, of course,
00:10:13.060 note that there was no support for Donald Trump. Senator Chuck Grassley said in his response to this new
00:10:20.580 report, based on the Durham annex, the Obama FBI failed to adequately review and investigate intelligence
00:10:29.140 reports showing the Clinton campaign may have been ginning up the fake Trump-Russia narrative
00:10:35.140 for Clinton's political game, which is ultimately done through the Steele dossier and other means.
00:10:42.580 These declassified reports show that the Trump-Russia scandal was promulgated from the very beginning.
00:10:49.620 Now, many of us who intently followed this nonsense or were embroiled in it, as I was,
00:10:55.380 knew from the beginning that it was bogus. In my case, I was never summons to the grand jury. I was never
00:11:02.980 sent a target letter. I sat with my lawyers knowing that there was no Russian collusion and knowing
00:11:08.820 that I had violated no law. Yet, Andrew Weissman, the de facto head of the Mueller investigation,
00:11:16.420 perhaps the most corrupt prosecutor in U.S. history, would regularly leak on an almost weekly basis.
00:11:23.700 These stories meant to pressure me. Stone and Mueller's crosshairs. Stone or Mueller intensifies
00:11:31.380 focus on Roger Stone. It is outrageous that after I was pardoned, Weissman and Rosenstein,
00:11:42.020 the acting attorney general, both said Stone can still be called before a grand jury. They had
00:11:47.940 three years to call me before a grand jury, but they never did so. That's because I did nothing wrong.
00:11:54.260 Well, these new documents are only available because Tulsi Gabbard has followed the directive
00:12:02.180 of Donald Trump to get to the bottom. And now she tells us that she's declassified even more
00:12:08.540 explosive documents showing a six-year fight with a whistleblower in the intelligence community
00:12:14.980 to reveal a Russiagate collusion hoax. Gabbard said,
00:12:19.140 the whistleblower risked everything to expose the scandal that subverted our democracy.
00:12:24.020 And the whistleblower within the FBI was threatened by a supervisor in an attempt to
00:12:29.860 keep them quiet. At the same time, the whistleblower was promised a promotion if they would simply lie
00:12:37.780 and support the false and now discredited Steele dossier. Documents revealed that Obama's director of
00:12:45.700 national intelligence, James Clapper, and others in Obama's inner circle spoke loudly about the
00:12:51.380 dubiousness of the Steele dossier, but they still allowed it to be used by the intelligence community
00:12:57.140 to fuel the Russian collusion hoax. I admire the courage and patriotism of the intelligence community
00:13:06.180 whistleblower who exhausted every avenue to try to expose this hoax, even reaching out to special
00:13:12.420 counsel John Durham, who was charged with investigating how the hoax began. The whistleblower also reached
00:13:19.380 out to at least one U.S. Senator, but strangely enough, neither one of them ever responded.
00:13:25.380 I'm Roger Stone. You're in the Stone Zone. We're bringing you breaking news. Whatever you do,
00:13:30.420 don't touch that dial.
00:13:43.380 Welcome back to the Stone Zone. Pardon me if I can't stop talking about the fact that the
00:14:10.900 Russian collusion hoax which dominated our politics for three and a half years, the Russian collusion
00:14:18.180 hoax which caused my wife and I to lose our home, our savings, our insurance, even my ability to make
00:14:25.540 a living because for two years I was gagged unconstitutionally by a federal judge. I couldn't
00:14:31.940 comment even to defend myself in any medium whatsoever.
00:14:35.860 So now that this is all proven to be a fraud, I have to reiterate that most people don't realize
00:14:43.140 this. I was convicted of lying under oath about things that never happened. In other words,
00:14:49.540 I had no motive to lie. To violate the False Statements Act, your false statement has to be both
00:14:56.660 willful, and here's the key, it also has to be material, meaning you have to be lying to cover up some
00:15:04.260 other underlying crime. The judge wagged her finger at me in a 55-minute harangue at my sentencing
00:15:12.980 in which she said, and I quote, you have been convicted of covering up for Donald Trump. To
00:15:18.900 which I say, covering up what? The Russian collusion hoax? No, Judge Amy Berman Jackson violated my
00:15:26.660 constitutional right in every single one of her pre-trial motions. So, for example, I was not
00:15:35.220 allowed to raise the question of corruption by the Special Counsel, by the Department of Justice,
00:15:42.340 by the FBI, or by any member of Congress. But the Constitution says, in a case called Kyle's
00:15:48.660 V. Whitley, that the integrity of the investigation and an indictment is always grounds for criminal
00:15:56.820 defense. Judge Amy Berman Jackson has articles of impeachment being worked on in the U.S. House
00:16:03.060 of Representatives today. Her handling of the Paul Manafort case, her handling of my case,
00:16:08.100 and her handling of the case against Hillary Clinton on the question of those brave Americans
00:16:14.020 killed in Benghazi, all present grounds for her removal from the federal bench. Whether the votes
00:16:21.060 are necessary in the Senate to impeach her is unclear, but at a minimum. House Republicans need
00:16:26.580 to send the good judge a subpoena that allows her to come up to Capitol Hill and explain a number
00:16:32.340 of her decisions. This woman terrorized me. She doesn't seem to believe that federal judges can be
00:16:39.540 criticized in our system. She was very distraught that both Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones,
00:16:46.740 both friends of mine, criticized the biased and political nature of the way she conducted my trial.
00:16:54.900 Then, of course, you may remember, we learned that the jury forewoman who said during jury selection
00:17:01.780 and during the trial that she didn't know who I was and had never heard of me,
00:17:06.100 had been attacking me on her social media, Facebook and Twitter, but she had those posts
00:17:13.220 on a private setting so that my lawyers could not see them. The judge rejected the idea that that was
00:17:20.900 proof of bias and denied me a new trial. No, I won't be satisfied until Judge Jackson
00:17:28.420 is held accountable for the violations of the Constitution that she's responsible for.
00:17:34.660 I'm Roger Stone. You're in the Stone Zone. We're talking all things Russian collusion today because,
00:17:40.020 well, that's what's in the news. Whatever you do, don't touch that dial because we'll be right back.
00:17:47.300 The Stone Zone on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
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00:17:59.620 Welcome back to The Stone Zone. You know, I wrote a book called Stone's Rules, which is kind of like
00:18:07.380 Machiavelli's The Prince or Sun Tzu's The Art of War. But these are kind of the rules of the road,
00:18:17.940 things that I learned in a 50-year career in the American political arena. But not everything
00:18:23.700 in the book pertains to politics. These are really the rules for life. They tell you about business.
00:18:28.740 They tell you about politics. They tell you about style and proper dressing for a gentleman.
00:18:36.020 Really a collection of everything that I have learned in the public arena. But one thing that
00:18:42.420 keeps coming up again and again on X, which used to be known as Twitter, I favor old Savile Row style
00:18:51.220 English tailing, double-breasted suits, and particularly a wide-cut pleated trouser. No,
00:18:59.380 they're not baggy, although some people keep saying that. The idea, of course, is that the silhouette of
00:19:05.220 your suit, the jacket and the trouser are supposed to essentially lie in a straight line. It's
00:19:13.300 aesthetically pleasing. Now, yes, I admit to you that not many men still wear the type of trousers
00:19:20.420 that I wear. I always wear suspenders, which are actually known in Britain as braces, because a proper
00:19:27.860 trouser begins at the shoulder and they have to hang properly. But for those who keep saying that,
00:19:34.500 while Roger Stone's suit pants look baggy, you just don't get the aesthetic. I read a story on this
00:19:40.500 in The Rake magazine recently. They get the aesthetic. Anyway, you might want to check it out,
00:19:46.660 Stone's Rules. The U.S. Senate has now advanced the nomination of Joe Kent to head up the National
00:19:54.100 Counterterrorism Center. The Senate voted to confirm Kent as director of the National Counterterrorism
00:20:00.980 Center, getting Joe Kent one step closer towards serving in this important post under the director
00:20:06.740 of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard. Kent has been attacked because he expressed the opinion,
00:20:13.380 the correct one in my opinion, that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from President Trump.
00:20:19.860 Kent has also said that the FBI played a role in the January 6th riot, which has been demonstrated as
00:20:26.420 more and more footage from that day has been released to the public. Joe Kent's enemies have used these
00:20:31.860 opinions as reasons why he should not be confirmed. But the real reason they oppose him vehemently is that
00:20:37.780 Kent is a strong and credible advocate against foreign war and against the corruption of our intelligence
00:20:45.060 agencies. Kent did 11 combat deployments as a Green Beret before joining the CIA. His wife Shannon was
00:20:54.580 killed in 2019 by a suicide bomber in northern Syria. This caused Kent to re-question the necessity of
00:21:01.780 endless war. He ran for Congress, a very noble effort, two times in Washington state. But Washington state is a
00:21:08.980 state that has 100 percent mail-in ballots. That's right, there are no polling places. There are no voting machines.
00:21:15.620 100 percent mail-in ballots, which is why Republicans haven't won any races in the state of Washington in decades.
00:21:25.220 So we will see when we go to a general confirmation vote in the U.S. Senate whether the nomination of
00:21:34.660 Joe Kent gets sabotaged by those in the Republican establishment who would prefer to have a moderate
00:21:41.060 Democrat that goes along with the military-industrial complex in office rather than a good man like Joe
00:21:46.980 Kent. Kent now has an opportunity to serve this nation from a crucial role deep within the bureaucracy.
00:21:53.140 Yes, he will give Gail Gabbard the support she needs for the gargantuan task of fighting
00:22:00.340 the deep state from within. Kamala Harris announced that she's not running for governor of California. The
00:22:08.900 polls showed that she would have easily won that race. I think she's made a good decision. Richard Nixon made
00:22:16.660 this mistake in 1962. After narrowly losing the presidency to John F. Kennedy in an effort to keep
00:22:25.380 his presidential prospects alive, Nixon was talked into running for governor of the Golden State by
00:22:32.500 President Dwight Eisenhower, New York Governor Tom Dewey, who had been the 1944 and 1948 Republican
00:22:41.300 candidates for president. Nixon never had much interest in state issues. He was like the fish
00:22:45.780 out of water talking about the state school system and air pollution and other issues which he knew
00:22:52.580 little as a federal official. Ultimately, the 1962 race would be a disastrous defeat, giving Nixon the
00:23:01.860 reputation as a two-time loser. It is only because of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy,
00:23:09.060 the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King,
00:23:15.540 and the public disgust with the Vietnam War that the seas parted in such a way that Richard Nixon could
00:23:24.660 make what was up until then the most incredible comeback in American political history. In this
00:23:32.180 particular case, just because Harris is not running for governor of California does not mean that she's not
00:23:38.820 running for president again. In a statement, former Vice President Harris said, for now, my leadership in
00:23:45.620 public service will not be in elected office. I look forward to getting back out and listening to the American
00:23:51.380 people, helping elect Democrats across the nation who will fight fearlessly, and sharing more details in
00:23:57.700 the months ahead about my own plans. I think she's running for president again. Once again, the polls show
00:24:05.220 she would be the clear and strong front runner for the Democrat nomination. But I believe in a general
00:24:12.100 election, she's damaged goods. The entire establishment united to prop her up and make her the candidate last
00:24:18.820 time. Think about this. The people who were endlessly complaining about Donald Trump being a danger to
00:24:24.420 democracy, nominated their candidate for president in the most undemocratic way. In other words, Kamala Harris
00:24:31.780 never had a single vote from a single Democrat primary or caucus voter. This was all done by the Obama machine.
00:24:41.780 If you saw this recent interview with Hunter Biden, who's quite bitter about the fact that
00:24:46.740 his father, Joe Biden's old friends, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, the Obamas and the Clintons all got
00:24:54.100 together to dump Joe. And then they anointed a candidate without any Democratic competition.
00:25:02.980 She had the most money a campaign in the United States has ever spent. In fact, she outspent Donald Trump.
00:25:09.700 But it was all for naught. Now, the Democrat Party and Kamala Harris are carrying enormous campaign debts.
00:25:16.660 Debts that we all know will never, ever be paid off. I would like to see her run again because,
00:25:24.020 frankly, I think she is imminently beatable. And within the context of the Democrat Party,
00:25:30.900 she is still ideologically closer to the Ayatollah, Zoran, Mandami, AOC, Ilhan Omar,
00:25:40.660 far left wing of the party that seems now to dominate the once great party of John F. Kennedy and Harry
00:25:48.260 Truman. I would predict to you right now that if Kamala Harris runs, she's likely to be the Democrat
00:25:53.860 nominee. And if I were the Republican nominee, well, I'd be praying for that. Meanwhile, Congresswoman
00:26:01.220 Marjorie Taylor Greene has released her new legislation. It's called the Clear Skies Act of
00:26:08.020 2025. And it would ban the dangerous and deadly practice of weather modification and geoengineering,
00:26:17.300 also known as chemtrails. If you live in the greater New York, New Jersey, Connecticut area,
00:26:24.020 you've certainly seen the chemtrails in the skies. They're dangerous. And the idea of
00:26:30.740 seeding clouds with toxic chemicals in order to control our weather, something that the government
00:26:37.060 has been doing since the 60s, is under this bill, a violation, a felony, punishable with up to five
00:26:45.860 years in prison for each violation, and fines of up to $100,000. The bill by my friend, Congresswoman
00:26:55.220 Marjorie Taylor Greene, is very similar to a law that was passed in Florida, which banned
00:27:02.660 geoengineering and weather modification in that state. There's a growing impetus to do more about
00:27:09.220 geoengineering, as these experiments have promulgated with little, if any, government oversight,
00:27:14.980 and often completely unbeknownst to the public. We could have a pandemic of the skies, similar to
00:27:22.020 the man-made engineered COVID pandemic, if these scientists err in their judgment. We can't allow
00:27:28.660 this to happen. Other states must follow Florida, or we need to have this federal ban of geoengineering
00:27:35.860 with significant criminal and civil penalties to end this dangerous practice.
00:27:41.060 Robert F. Kennedy is now taking aims at the Vaccination Injury Compensation Program. HHS Secretary
00:27:51.460 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is going after the corrupt Vaccination Injury Compensation Program that's been
00:27:58.180 denying rightful compensation for individuals injured by big pharma's vaccines. The VICP, as it's known, was
00:28:07.540 created under the 1986 National Childhood Vaccination Injury Act, which essentially has served to protect
00:28:15.060 big pharma from injury claims over their vaccinations. In its 39 years in existence, the
00:28:23.140 the vaccine injury compensation program has only given $5.4 billion to about 12,000 victims.
00:28:35.620 Big pharma claims this is because of the safety of their products, but it's really because
00:28:40.580 the fix is in to protect the pharmaceutical giants from paying claims to those that have violated,
00:28:48.100 harmed, and in many cases killed. Senator Kennedy is not standing for this status quo.
00:28:54.100 In an ex-post I noticed, RFK Jr. said,
00:28:57.060 The structure itself hobbles claimants. The defendant is not the Department of Health and Human Services,
00:29:04.340 not the vaccination makers, and the claimants are therefore facing the monumental power and the
00:29:09.860 bottomless pockets of the U.S. government represented by the Department of Justice. I will not allow this
00:29:17.460 VICP board to continue to ignore its mandate and to fail its mission of quickly and fairly
00:29:24.580 compensating vaccination-injured individuals. Once again, RFK Jr. is living up to his mandate to
00:29:32.020 make America healthy again, and God bless him for it, and God bless President Donald Trump for having
00:29:37.700 the courage to make RFK the HHS director. I think that this is a standout cabinet. When I went to
00:29:48.100 Washington last week, I had an opportunity to meet privately with Secretary of Treasury Scott Besson,
00:29:54.340 who I think is among the president's very best nominees. He's a strong supporter of free markets. He's
00:30:01.780 a strong supporter of low taxes, less regulation. He's a big defender and proponent for cryptocurrency.
00:30:11.700 I think this is among the president's very best appointments. Then I must also tell you,
00:30:17.300 I'm increasingly impressed with Marco Rubio. Now, Marco Rubio famously saw him in a video with Alex
00:30:24.420 Jones in which he tried to claim that he didn't know who Jones was, but he'd have to be living under
00:30:28.980 a rock not to know who Alex Jones is. Marco Rubio used to be thought of as kind of a neocon Republican
00:30:36.740 in the Bush mold. But I think he's doing an outstanding job because he understands that his
00:30:42.980 job as Secretary of State is not to implement his views or his ideas, but to implement the America
00:30:50.420 First agenda as laid out by President Donald Trump. He's really emerging as one of the stronger members
00:30:57.940 of the cabinet. And there are suggestions that he wants to run for president again, which is why I
00:31:02.340 point out to you statements he made only days ago that he intends to support J.D. Vance, the vice
00:31:10.180 president, who he describes as a good friend. So for those who are expecting to see a Vance-Marco
00:31:18.260 Rubio competition, evidently that is surprisingly not in the cards. Marco Rubio certainly has the talent,
00:31:25.380 the stature and the standing. Although in our party, sitting vice presidents like J.D. Vance,
00:31:30.820 who I think is doing a great job, is clearly the front-runner post-Trump for the Republican
00:31:36.260 nomination, are rarely challenged. We believe in hegemony in our party. We believe in the natural
00:31:42.420 order of things. After all, we nominated Bob Dole, who should have been nominated in 1988,
00:31:48.580 as late as 1996, well after the good senator's sell date. We even nominated John McCain after he
00:31:55.540 had lost the nomination to George W. Bush. Why did we nominate him? Was it because he looked like a
00:32:00.900 winner? No, we nominated him because it was his term. And that's the way it goes in the Republican
00:32:07.300 Party. So for those who already begin to fixate on 2028, the idea of a Marco Rubio candidacy was
00:32:14.500 got a dose of cold water from the man himself this week when he said he'll be supporting J.D. Vance.
00:32:20.820 Had an opportunity to sit down with the vice president when I was in Washington, D.C.,
00:32:25.060 and I must tell you, I came away extraordinarily impressed. There's no question whatsoever that
00:32:30.260 he has the poise and the statue and the knowledge and the courage to be president. That's why we
00:32:36.580 elected him vice president. I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to the Stone Zone here on the
00:32:41.700 Red Apple Audio Networks. Whatever you do, don't go away. We'll be right back in the zone
00:32:47.140 with a little more of the hot political news. Welcome back to the Stone Zone. You know,
00:33:06.540 having been through the meat grinder of the D.C. judicial system, I must tell you I generally
00:33:11.920 have a very low opinion of lawyers. Most lawyers I have met have a goal of stretching out their
00:33:19.120 client's case as long as humanly possible so they can continue to bill their client on an hourly basis.
00:33:27.760 Most lawyers I've met are very concerned about being too aggressive a court because they worry
00:33:33.360 about what the judge might think of them. See, they're always worried about the fact that they
00:33:38.400 may have to go before the same judge with yet another client. Very few lawyers are committed to
00:33:45.600 winning on behalf of their clients, particularly in a criminal defense setting. Whenever you read that
00:33:52.720 so-and-so is a criminal defense lawyer but you look at their biography and see that they were
00:33:58.240 previously a federal prosecutor, well, I can generally tell you that's not the right lawyer. See,
00:34:04.240 there's a big difference between being a federal prosecutor and being a criminal defense lawyer.
00:34:10.000 Someone who's a former federal prosecutor begins their representation on the premise that their
00:34:15.600 client is probably guilty and their job is to just get them the best possible deal. But a criminal defense
00:34:22.320 lawyer is committed to winning at trial to prove that his client is innocent, even though technically
00:34:29.440 under the law, the government has to prove you guilty rather than proving your innocence. That's why I
00:34:35.440 think David Schoen, who represented President Donald Trump in the impeachment inquiry, could be the most
00:34:42.480 brilliant attorney in the country. Last week, he dropped a legal nuke on the legacy of Barack Obama,
00:34:50.080 declaring that the 44th President of the United States can still be impeached, and if he was impeached,
00:34:56.880 he would then lose his post-presidential immunity and could therefore face indictment for criminal
00:35:03.920 conduct tied to the Russian collusion hoax. You may have seen the clip recently where President
00:35:10.800 Trump actually speculated that the recent Supreme Court decision regarding presidential immunity
00:35:17.600 probably helped Obama in a substantial way. But now, Schoen has added to the entire picture
00:35:25.280 with this explosive revelation coming just days ago. Schoen just isn't letting Obama off the hook.
00:35:32.640 Now, let's be very clear. It was during their second failed impeachment attempt against Trump
00:35:38.240 that Democrats moved the goalposts. They're the ones who claimed that impeachment could apply
00:35:43.440 even after a president leaves office. They did this in a desperate bid to disqualify Trump from running
00:35:50.160 again. A tactic that came back to haunt them, to say the least, as the tsunami of lawfare that Donald
00:35:57.520 Trump faced in state and federal courts backfired badly. And the president had the courage and the
00:36:05.040 perseverance to fight his way to the greatest comeback in American political history. So David Schoen said
00:36:13.440 that Trump was right when he said the immunity decision by the Supreme Court would help President
00:36:18.080 Obama. But this impeachment dogma put forward by the Democrats, now hosted on their own petard,
00:36:28.240 is most ironic. Schoen pointed out directly to Article 1, Section 3, Clause 7 of the Constitution.
00:36:36.720 The very clause that the Democrats used during their second sham impeachment of President Trump
00:36:43.280 to argue that a former president could still be tried and barred from holding office again. In
00:36:49.920 doing so, they have inadvertently opened the door for the same standard to now apply to Barack Hussein
00:36:57.600 Obama. All of their sphincters are puckering right now, folks, because they're all in the crosshairs.
00:37:05.600 This is the greatest single dirty trick in American politics and abuse of power in which the full
00:37:11.760 legal authority of the United States government and the extraordinary capability of our intelligence
00:37:17.360 agency were weaponized in an effort to remove a duly elected president. The president said it way back
00:37:24.880 in his interview with Leslie Stahl on CBS. They spied on my campaign and we caught them. We caught them
00:37:30.960 red-handed. And indeed, thanks to the courage of Donald Trump and the authority he invested in
00:37:36.720 the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, we now have the stone-cold truth. Speaking of Tulsi
00:37:44.080 Gabbard, she joins us tomorrow on The Stone Zone. You're not going to want to miss that. Until then,
00:37:49.440 God bless you and Godspeed.
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