The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - The Stone Zone ｜ 07-31-25

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:05.560 You are now entering the Stone Zone.

00:00:09.040 Well, we found out that Hillary Rotten Clinton actually signed off on the plan hatched by 1.00

00:00:15.920 her top campaign advisors to smear then-candidate Donald Trump with false claims of Russian

00:00:22.320 collusion and also to distract from her own mounting legal problems regarding the illicit

00:00:29.400 illegal email server she was using during the 2016 campaign.

00:00:34.080 All of this is according to explosive intelligence files that were declassified Thursday by Tulsi

00:00:41.460 Garbard, the Director of National Intelligence.

00:00:44.380 The 24-page Intelligence Annex was compiled from memos and emails obtained by the Obama

00:00:51.460 administration in the lead-up to Election Day that laid out the confidential conversations

00:00:57.720 between leaders of the Democrat National Committee, including then-chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz,

00:01:04.880 she's kind of like every man's first wife, and liberal billionaire George Soros, who was

00:01:11.620 interfering in American politics through his Open Society Foundation.

00:01:15.740 The plot, now laid bare by Tulsi Gabbard, was the brainchild of the Clinton campaign's then-foreign

00:01:24.480 policy advisor Julianne Smith, including, and I quote, raising the theme of Putin's support

00:01:31.580 for Trump and, quote, subsequently scaring public opinion towards the notion that it needs to

00:01:38.240 equate to the Russian leader's political influence campaign with actual hacking of the election

00:01:44.720 and infrastructure. We now know that this has no basis in fact whatsoever.

00:01:49.560 The entire Russian collusion hoax was cooked up by Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, who green-lighted it

00:01:58.580 in an Oval Office meeting, Vice President Joe Biden, who helpfully suggested perhaps we could charge

00:02:05.780 General Michael Flynn with violations of the Logan Act. John Brennan, the disgraced CIA director, who we now

00:02:16.400 know, based on these declassified documents, actually forced the use of the Steele dossier to be included

00:02:26.020 in the intelligence briefing for President Barack Obama. You see, that created the rationale for

00:02:36.160 them to launch the FBI investigation, also known as Crossfire Hurricane. They also used it as the

00:02:45.480 rationale for the appointment of Robert Mueller, Silent Bob. We now know why he was silent when he

00:02:52.520 testified to Congress about the final results of his investigation. It was very clear that Mueller was

00:02:59.920 non-composimentous. He was around the bend. When he was asked whether he was familiar with Fusion GPS,

00:03:09.040 that's the company that set up the meeting in Trump Tower with Donald Trump Jr., that was supposed to be

00:03:16.400 the handoff of damaging information about Hillary Clinton, but turned out to be nothing of the

00:03:22.700 sort. He had said he'd never heard of Fusion GPS. When he was asked whether he knew that the woman who was

00:03:31.680 the chief prosecutor in my case, Jeannie Rhee, had also represented Hillary Clinton and the Clinton

00:03:39.200 Foundation, a very clear conflict of interest because I had written extensively about the Clinton

00:03:45.300 Foundation and its corruption. Mueller said he was unfamiliar with that. They failed to mention that Jeannie Rhee was

00:03:53.000 Mueller's law partner and the Clinton Foundation was a client of their firm. But Robert Mueller didn't know that.

00:04:01.260 Now, it's all coming home to roost now and there's more coming. Very clearly, sources tell me, that the next

00:04:08.000 bombshell is going to be absolute proof by declassification of documents that the 2020 election

00:04:16.400 was rigged with the assistance of two of our intelligence agencies. So when you hear that in the next 48 hours,

00:04:25.080 remember that you heard it here first. Meanwhile, the former CIA director, John Brennan, the guy who we learned

00:04:34.860 through these declassified documents just days ago, forced the inclusion of the fake steel dossier.

00:04:42.560 That's the report that was fabricated and paid for by Hillary Clinton that claimed that Donald Trump had

00:04:50.360 frolicked with Russian prostitutes when he visited Moscow as a private businessman.

00:04:56.060 Brennan is still trying to salvage his greatly damaged reputation. He appeared on MSNBC, where else, 0.64

00:05:05.760 on Thursday morning to do some damage control as the Trump administration releases are exposing the

00:05:12.520 entire Russian collusion hoax and Brennan's own role. Brennan on this show insisted the steel dossier

00:05:19.420 he paid for Hillary, quote, played no role in the intelligence assessment report. The problem is that that is a lie.

00:05:27.620 It's proven by all of the declassified documents released by Tulsi Gabbard. But he still, three days ago,

00:05:37.120 I watched him on MSNBC. He was saying, well, the steel dossier, quote, might be true. This is outrageous,

00:05:44.860 because the man continued to push a lie, a lie that hampered Donald Trump's presidency for the first

00:05:52.940 three years of his term. CIA Director John Ratcliffe recently announced that a new CIA report

00:06:00.360 had revealed that FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and the Director of National

00:06:08.080 Intelligence James Clapper worked together to purposely corrupt the Trump-Russia investigation

00:06:13.500 in 2016 before Trump even entered the office. The three corrupt Obama officials included the steel

00:06:20.600 dossier, as I said, in their quest to screw Trump, their words, knowing at the time that it was a lie

00:06:28.260 and a fraud. MSNBC asked Brennan about the new Russiagate documents in the DOJ Strike Force team

00:06:36.080 that's being assembled to investigate the hoax and hopefully prosecute those responsible.

00:06:43.500 Brennan looked pretty nervous to me. He said, putting together an internal strike force to

00:06:47.920 take a look at this information is certainly understandable. But I also like to think that

00:06:52.860 professionals at the Department of Justice will dismiss any of these criminal referrals because

00:06:57.260 they are baseless, because they really are. This guy is whistling past the graveyard, folks.

00:07:03.880 I think he's going down. I pray that he's going down. I saw what he did to General Michael Flynn.

00:07:09.220 I know what he tried to do to me and my family. And above all, I saw what they tried to do to

00:07:14.240 Donald Trump. Either we have a two-tier justice system, which everyone is treated equally, or we 0.77

00:07:20.400 have a one-tier justice system in which liberal Democrats and their compatriots and co-conspirators

00:07:26.840 aren't held responsible when they act illegally. In this case, this is seditious conspiracy.

00:07:35.960 This is treasonous. And someone has to be held responsible. Meanwhile, Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas

00:07:45.500 has exposed himself as the neocon traitor that he is. Desperately now trying to undermine Director of National 0.71

00:07:53.860 Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and once again protect the deep state. I'm a little surprised because Senator

00:08:01.220 Cotton strongly supported the nomination of Tulsi Gabbard to the position of Director of National

00:08:07.140 Intelligence, voted for her confirmation both in committee and on the Senate floor. But reports

00:08:14.020 that Cotton has now put forward legislation that would essentially hamstring Gabbard in her new role as 0.95

00:08:21.380 the Director of National Intelligence and prevent her from releasing documents that paint deep state 0.93

00:08:26.980 entities into a negative light. This is being sent to you, masquerading to the American people as a

00:08:34.100 cost-cutting bill. But the truth is, it takes away the declassification authority from the Director of

00:08:42.420 National Intelligence and gives it to the FBI and the NSA. Now, both the FBI and the National

00:08:51.220 National Security apparatus were the exact people who invented and fabricated the Russian collusion

00:08:58.180 hoax and then hit it up, pardon me, then hit it from the American people. So this, I think, is really

00:09:06.260 extraordinarily dangerous. That's why I believe that Cotton needs a primary challenger and I will be

00:09:12.900 supporting whoever steps up and challenges him. Cotton is a vestige of the Bush-era neocon Republican Party,

00:09:21.460 and frankly, it's just time for him to go away. He is not someone who believes in Trump's America

00:09:25.940 first Republican Party. And this attempt to undermine Tulsi Gabbard, I think it is outrageous.

00:09:33.700 Meanwhile, as I say, the declassified annex from the 2023 report by Special Counsel John Durham was

00:09:41.140 released today. This is the exact document or documents that FBI Director Kash Patel found in a burn bag in a

00:09:51.380 locked room at the FBI headquarters, meaning they were on the verge of destroying this absolute proof

00:09:58.020 that Hillary Clinton and her confederates were all involved in a scheme devised by her campaign senior

00:10:06.580 advisors to smear Trump by publicly raising the theme of Putin's support for Trump. We, of course,

00:10:13.060 note that there was no support for Donald Trump. Senator Chuck Grassley said in his response to this new

00:10:20.580 report, based on the Durham annex, the Obama FBI failed to adequately review and investigate intelligence

00:10:29.140 reports showing the Clinton campaign may have been ginning up the fake Trump-Russia narrative

00:10:35.140 for Clinton's political game, which is ultimately done through the Steele dossier and other means.

00:10:42.580 These declassified reports show that the Trump-Russia scandal was promulgated from the very beginning.

00:10:49.620 Now, many of us who intently followed this nonsense or were embroiled in it, as I was,

00:10:55.380 knew from the beginning that it was bogus. In my case, I was never summons to the grand jury. I was never

00:11:02.980 sent a target letter. I sat with my lawyers knowing that there was no Russian collusion and knowing

00:11:08.820 that I had violated no law. Yet, Andrew Weissman, the de facto head of the Mueller investigation,

00:11:16.420 perhaps the most corrupt prosecutor in U.S. history, would regularly leak on an almost weekly basis.

00:11:23.700 These stories meant to pressure me. Stone and Mueller's crosshairs. Stone or Mueller intensifies

00:11:31.380 focus on Roger Stone. It is outrageous that after I was pardoned, Weissman and Rosenstein,

00:11:42.020 the acting attorney general, both said Stone can still be called before a grand jury. They had

00:11:47.940 three years to call me before a grand jury, but they never did so. That's because I did nothing wrong.

00:11:54.260 Well, these new documents are only available because Tulsi Gabbard has followed the directive

00:12:02.180 of Donald Trump to get to the bottom. And now she tells us that she's declassified even more

00:12:08.540 explosive documents showing a six-year fight with a whistleblower in the intelligence community

00:12:14.980 to reveal a Russiagate collusion hoax. Gabbard said,

00:12:19.140 the whistleblower risked everything to expose the scandal that subverted our democracy.

00:12:24.020 And the whistleblower within the FBI was threatened by a supervisor in an attempt to

00:12:29.860 keep them quiet. At the same time, the whistleblower was promised a promotion if they would simply lie

00:12:37.780 and support the false and now discredited Steele dossier. Documents revealed that Obama's director of

00:12:45.700 national intelligence, James Clapper, and others in Obama's inner circle spoke loudly about the

00:12:51.380 dubiousness of the Steele dossier, but they still allowed it to be used by the intelligence community

00:12:57.140 to fuel the Russian collusion hoax. I admire the courage and patriotism of the intelligence community

00:13:06.180 whistleblower who exhausted every avenue to try to expose this hoax, even reaching out to special

00:13:12.420 counsel John Durham, who was charged with investigating how the hoax began. The whistleblower also reached

00:13:19.380 out to at least one U.S. Senator, but strangely enough, neither one of them ever responded.

00:13:25.380 I'm Roger Stone. You're in the Stone Zone. We're bringing you breaking news. Whatever you do,

00:13:30.420 don't touch that dial.

00:13:43.380 Welcome back to the Stone Zone. Pardon me if I can't stop talking about the fact that the 0.99

00:14:10.900 Russian collusion hoax which dominated our politics for three and a half years, the Russian collusion

00:14:18.180 hoax which caused my wife and I to lose our home, our savings, our insurance, even my ability to make

00:14:25.540 a living because for two years I was gagged unconstitutionally by a federal judge. I couldn't

00:14:31.940 comment even to defend myself in any medium whatsoever.

00:14:35.860 So now that this is all proven to be a fraud, I have to reiterate that most people don't realize

00:14:43.140 this. I was convicted of lying under oath about things that never happened. In other words,

00:14:49.540 I had no motive to lie. To violate the False Statements Act, your false statement has to be both

00:14:56.660 willful, and here's the key, it also has to be material, meaning you have to be lying to cover up some

00:15:04.260 other underlying crime. The judge wagged her finger at me in a 55-minute harangue at my sentencing 1.00

00:15:12.980 in which she said, and I quote, you have been convicted of covering up for Donald Trump. To

00:15:18.900 which I say, covering up what? The Russian collusion hoax? No, Judge Amy Berman Jackson violated my

00:15:26.660 constitutional right in every single one of her pre-trial motions. So, for example, I was not

00:15:35.220 allowed to raise the question of corruption by the Special Counsel, by the Department of Justice,

00:15:42.340 by the FBI, or by any member of Congress. But the Constitution says, in a case called Kyle's

00:15:48.660 V. Whitley, that the integrity of the investigation and an indictment is always grounds for criminal

00:15:56.820 defense. Judge Amy Berman Jackson has articles of impeachment being worked on in the U.S. House 0.99

00:16:03.060 of Representatives today. Her handling of the Paul Manafort case, her handling of my case,

00:16:08.100 and her handling of the case against Hillary Clinton on the question of those brave Americans

00:16:14.020 killed in Benghazi, all present grounds for her removal from the federal bench. Whether the votes

00:16:21.060 are necessary in the Senate to impeach her is unclear, but at a minimum. House Republicans need

00:16:26.580 to send the good judge a subpoena that allows her to come up to Capitol Hill and explain a number

00:16:32.340 of her decisions. This woman terrorized me. She doesn't seem to believe that federal judges can be 0.98

00:16:39.540 criticized in our system. She was very distraught that both Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones,

00:16:46.740 both friends of mine, criticized the biased and political nature of the way she conducted my trial.

00:16:54.900 Then, of course, you may remember, we learned that the jury forewoman who said during jury selection

00:17:01.780 and during the trial that she didn't know who I was and had never heard of me,

00:17:06.100 had been attacking me on her social media, Facebook and Twitter, but she had those posts 0.96

00:17:13.220 on a private setting so that my lawyers could not see them. The judge rejected the idea that that was

00:17:20.900 proof of bias and denied me a new trial. No, I won't be satisfied until Judge Jackson

00:17:28.420 is held accountable for the violations of the Constitution that she's responsible for.

00:17:34.660 I'm Roger Stone. You're in the Stone Zone. We're talking all things Russian collusion today because,

00:17:40.020 well, that's what's in the news. Whatever you do, don't touch that dial because we'll be right back.

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00:17:59.620 Welcome back to The Stone Zone. You know, I wrote a book called Stone's Rules, which is kind of like

00:18:07.380 Machiavelli's The Prince or Sun Tzu's The Art of War. But these are kind of the rules of the road,

00:18:17.940 things that I learned in a 50-year career in the American political arena. But not everything

00:18:23.700 in the book pertains to politics. These are really the rules for life. They tell you about business.

00:18:28.740 They tell you about politics. They tell you about style and proper dressing for a gentleman.

00:18:36.020 Really a collection of everything that I have learned in the public arena. But one thing that

00:18:42.420 keeps coming up again and again on X, which used to be known as Twitter, I favor old Savile Row style

00:18:51.220 English tailing, double-breasted suits, and particularly a wide-cut pleated trouser. No,

00:18:59.380 they're not baggy, although some people keep saying that. The idea, of course, is that the silhouette of

00:19:05.220 your suit, the jacket and the trouser are supposed to essentially lie in a straight line. It's

00:19:13.300 aesthetically pleasing. Now, yes, I admit to you that not many men still wear the type of trousers

00:19:20.420 that I wear. I always wear suspenders, which are actually known in Britain as braces, because a proper

00:19:27.860 trouser begins at the shoulder and they have to hang properly. But for those who keep saying that,

00:19:34.500 while Roger Stone's suit pants look baggy, you just don't get the aesthetic. I read a story on this

00:19:40.500 in The Rake magazine recently. They get the aesthetic. Anyway, you might want to check it out,

00:19:46.660 Stone's Rules. The U.S. Senate has now advanced the nomination of Joe Kent to head up the National

00:19:54.100 Counterterrorism Center. The Senate voted to confirm Kent as director of the National Counterterrorism

00:20:00.980 Center, getting Joe Kent one step closer towards serving in this important post under the director

00:20:06.740 of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard. Kent has been attacked because he expressed the opinion,

00:20:13.380 the correct one in my opinion, that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from President Trump.

00:20:19.860 Kent has also said that the FBI played a role in the January 6th riot, which has been demonstrated as

00:20:26.420 more and more footage from that day has been released to the public. Joe Kent's enemies have used these

00:20:31.860 opinions as reasons why he should not be confirmed. But the real reason they oppose him vehemently is that

00:20:37.780 Kent is a strong and credible advocate against foreign war and against the corruption of our intelligence

00:20:45.060 agencies. Kent did 11 combat deployments as a Green Beret before joining the CIA. His wife Shannon was

00:20:54.580 killed in 2019 by a suicide bomber in northern Syria. This caused Kent to re-question the necessity of

00:21:01.780 endless war. He ran for Congress, a very noble effort, two times in Washington state. But Washington state is a

00:21:08.980 state that has 100 percent mail-in ballots. That's right, there are no polling places. There are no voting machines.

00:21:15.620 100 percent mail-in ballots, which is why Republicans haven't won any races in the state of Washington in decades.

00:21:25.220 So we will see when we go to a general confirmation vote in the U.S. Senate whether the nomination of

00:21:34.660 Joe Kent gets sabotaged by those in the Republican establishment who would prefer to have a moderate

00:21:41.060 Democrat that goes along with the military-industrial complex in office rather than a good man like Joe

00:21:46.980 Kent. Kent now has an opportunity to serve this nation from a crucial role deep within the bureaucracy.

00:21:53.140 Yes, he will give Gail Gabbard the support she needs for the gargantuan task of fighting

00:22:00.340 the deep state from within. Kamala Harris announced that she's not running for governor of California. The

00:22:08.900 polls showed that she would have easily won that race. I think she's made a good decision. Richard Nixon made

00:22:16.660 this mistake in 1962. After narrowly losing the presidency to John F. Kennedy in an effort to keep

00:22:25.380 his presidential prospects alive, Nixon was talked into running for governor of the Golden State by

00:22:32.500 President Dwight Eisenhower, New York Governor Tom Dewey, who had been the 1944 and 1948 Republican

00:22:41.300 candidates for president. Nixon never had much interest in state issues. He was like the fish

00:22:45.780 out of water talking about the state school system and air pollution and other issues which he knew

00:22:52.580 little as a federal official. Ultimately, the 1962 race would be a disastrous defeat, giving Nixon the

00:23:01.860 reputation as a two-time loser. It is only because of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy,

00:23:09.060 the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King,

00:23:15.540 and the public disgust with the Vietnam War that the seas parted in such a way that Richard Nixon could

00:23:24.660 make what was up until then the most incredible comeback in American political history. In this

00:23:32.180 particular case, just because Harris is not running for governor of California does not mean that she's not

00:23:38.820 running for president again. In a statement, former Vice President Harris said, for now, my leadership in

00:23:45.620 public service will not be in elected office. I look forward to getting back out and listening to the American

00:23:51.380 people, helping elect Democrats across the nation who will fight fearlessly, and sharing more details in

00:23:57.700 the months ahead about my own plans. I think she's running for president again. Once again, the polls show

00:24:05.220 she would be the clear and strong front runner for the Democrat nomination. But I believe in a general

00:24:12.100 election, she's damaged goods. The entire establishment united to prop her up and make her the candidate last 1.00

00:24:18.820 time. Think about this. The people who were endlessly complaining about Donald Trump being a danger to

00:24:24.420 democracy, nominated their candidate for president in the most undemocratic way. In other words, Kamala Harris 0.93

00:24:31.780 never had a single vote from a single Democrat primary or caucus voter. This was all done by the Obama machine.

00:24:41.780 If you saw this recent interview with Hunter Biden, who's quite bitter about the fact that

00:24:46.740 his father, Joe Biden's old friends, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, the Obamas and the Clintons all got

00:24:54.100 together to dump Joe. And then they anointed a candidate without any Democratic competition.

00:25:02.980 She had the most money a campaign in the United States has ever spent. In fact, she outspent Donald Trump.

00:25:09.700 But it was all for naught. Now, the Democrat Party and Kamala Harris are carrying enormous campaign debts.

00:25:16.660 Debts that we all know will never, ever be paid off. I would like to see her run again because, 0.94

00:25:24.020 frankly, I think she is imminently beatable. And within the context of the Democrat Party,

00:25:30.900 she is still ideologically closer to the Ayatollah, Zoran, Mandami, AOC, Ilhan Omar,

00:25:40.660 far left wing of the party that seems now to dominate the once great party of John F. Kennedy and Harry

00:25:48.260 Truman. I would predict to you right now that if Kamala Harris runs, she's likely to be the Democrat 1.00

00:25:53.860 nominee. And if I were the Republican nominee, well, I'd be praying for that. Meanwhile, Congresswoman

00:26:01.220 Marjorie Taylor Greene has released her new legislation. It's called the Clear Skies Act of

00:26:08.020 2025. And it would ban the dangerous and deadly practice of weather modification and geoengineering,

00:26:17.300 also known as chemtrails. If you live in the greater New York, New Jersey, Connecticut area,

00:26:24.020 you've certainly seen the chemtrails in the skies. They're dangerous. And the idea of

00:26:30.740 seeding clouds with toxic chemicals in order to control our weather, something that the government

00:26:37.060 has been doing since the 60s, is under this bill, a violation, a felony, punishable with up to five

00:26:45.860 years in prison for each violation, and fines of up to $100,000. The bill by my friend, Congresswoman

00:26:55.220 Marjorie Taylor Greene, is very similar to a law that was passed in Florida, which banned 0.98

00:27:02.660 geoengineering and weather modification in that state. There's a growing impetus to do more about

00:27:09.220 geoengineering, as these experiments have promulgated with little, if any, government oversight,

00:27:14.980 and often completely unbeknownst to the public. We could have a pandemic of the skies, similar to

00:27:22.020 the man-made engineered COVID pandemic, if these scientists err in their judgment. We can't allow

00:27:28.660 this to happen. Other states must follow Florida, or we need to have this federal ban of geoengineering 0.98

00:27:35.860 with significant criminal and civil penalties to end this dangerous practice.

00:27:41.060 Robert F. Kennedy is now taking aims at the Vaccination Injury Compensation Program. HHS Secretary

00:27:51.460 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is going after the corrupt Vaccination Injury Compensation Program that's been

00:27:58.180 denying rightful compensation for individuals injured by big pharma's vaccines. The VICP, as it's known, was

00:28:07.540 created under the 1986 National Childhood Vaccination Injury Act, which essentially has served to protect

00:28:15.060 big pharma from injury claims over their vaccinations. In its 39 years in existence, the

00:28:23.140 the vaccine injury compensation program has only given $5.4 billion to about 12,000 victims.

00:28:35.620 Big pharma claims this is because of the safety of their products, but it's really because

00:28:40.580 the fix is in to protect the pharmaceutical giants from paying claims to those that have violated,

00:28:48.100 harmed, and in many cases killed. Senator Kennedy is not standing for this status quo.

00:28:54.100 In an ex-post I noticed, RFK Jr. said,

00:28:57.060 The structure itself hobbles claimants. The defendant is not the Department of Health and Human Services,

00:29:04.340 not the vaccination makers, and the claimants are therefore facing the monumental power and the

00:29:09.860 bottomless pockets of the U.S. government represented by the Department of Justice. I will not allow this

00:29:17.460 VICP board to continue to ignore its mandate and to fail its mission of quickly and fairly

00:29:24.580 compensating vaccination-injured individuals. Once again, RFK Jr. is living up to his mandate to

00:29:32.020 make America healthy again, and God bless him for it, and God bless President Donald Trump for having

00:29:37.700 the courage to make RFK the HHS director. I think that this is a standout cabinet. When I went to

00:29:48.100 Washington last week, I had an opportunity to meet privately with Secretary of Treasury Scott Besson,

00:29:54.340 who I think is among the president's very best nominees. He's a strong supporter of free markets. He's

00:30:01.780 a strong supporter of low taxes, less regulation. He's a big defender and proponent for cryptocurrency.

00:30:11.700 I think this is among the president's very best appointments. Then I must also tell you,

00:30:17.300 I'm increasingly impressed with Marco Rubio. Now, Marco Rubio famously saw him in a video with Alex

00:30:24.420 Jones in which he tried to claim that he didn't know who Jones was, but he'd have to be living under

00:30:28.980 a rock not to know who Alex Jones is. Marco Rubio used to be thought of as kind of a neocon Republican

00:30:36.740 in the Bush mold. But I think he's doing an outstanding job because he understands that his

00:30:42.980 job as Secretary of State is not to implement his views or his ideas, but to implement the America

00:30:50.420 First agenda as laid out by President Donald Trump. He's really emerging as one of the stronger members

00:30:57.940 of the cabinet. And there are suggestions that he wants to run for president again, which is why I

00:31:02.340 point out to you statements he made only days ago that he intends to support J.D. Vance, the vice

00:31:10.180 president, who he describes as a good friend. So for those who are expecting to see a Vance-Marco

00:31:18.260 Rubio competition, evidently that is surprisingly not in the cards. Marco Rubio certainly has the talent,

00:31:25.380 the stature and the standing. Although in our party, sitting vice presidents like J.D. Vance,

00:31:30.820 who I think is doing a great job, is clearly the front-runner post-Trump for the Republican

00:31:36.260 nomination, are rarely challenged. We believe in hegemony in our party. We believe in the natural

00:31:42.420 order of things. After all, we nominated Bob Dole, who should have been nominated in 1988,

00:31:48.580 as late as 1996, well after the good senator's sell date. We even nominated John McCain after he

00:31:55.540 had lost the nomination to George W. Bush. Why did we nominate him? Was it because he looked like a 0.96

00:32:00.900 winner? No, we nominated him because it was his term. And that's the way it goes in the Republican

00:32:07.300 Party. So for those who already begin to fixate on 2028, the idea of a Marco Rubio candidacy was

00:32:14.500 got a dose of cold water from the man himself this week when he said he'll be supporting J.D. Vance.

00:32:20.820 Had an opportunity to sit down with the vice president when I was in Washington, D.C.,

00:32:25.060 and I must tell you, I came away extraordinarily impressed. There's no question whatsoever that

00:32:30.260 he has the poise and the statue and the knowledge and the courage to be president. That's why we

00:32:36.580 elected him vice president. I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to the Stone Zone here on the

00:32:41.700 Red Apple Audio Networks. Whatever you do, don't go away. We'll be right back in the zone

00:32:47.140 with a little more of the hot political news. Welcome back to the Stone Zone. You know,

00:33:06.540 having been through the meat grinder of the D.C. judicial system, I must tell you I generally

00:33:11.920 have a very low opinion of lawyers. Most lawyers I have met have a goal of stretching out their

00:33:19.120 client's case as long as humanly possible so they can continue to bill their client on an hourly basis.

00:33:27.760 Most lawyers I've met are very concerned about being too aggressive a court because they worry

00:33:33.360 about what the judge might think of them. See, they're always worried about the fact that they

00:33:38.400 may have to go before the same judge with yet another client. Very few lawyers are committed to

00:33:45.600 winning on behalf of their clients, particularly in a criminal defense setting. Whenever you read that

00:33:52.720 so-and-so is a criminal defense lawyer but you look at their biography and see that they were

00:33:58.240 previously a federal prosecutor, well, I can generally tell you that's not the right lawyer. See,

00:34:04.240 there's a big difference between being a federal prosecutor and being a criminal defense lawyer.

00:34:10.000 Someone who's a former federal prosecutor begins their representation on the premise that their

00:34:15.600 client is probably guilty and their job is to just get them the best possible deal. But a criminal defense

00:34:22.320 lawyer is committed to winning at trial to prove that his client is innocent, even though technically

00:34:29.440 under the law, the government has to prove you guilty rather than proving your innocence. That's why I

00:34:35.440 think David Schoen, who represented President Donald Trump in the impeachment inquiry, could be the most

00:34:42.480 brilliant attorney in the country. Last week, he dropped a legal nuke on the legacy of Barack Obama,

00:34:50.080 declaring that the 44th President of the United States can still be impeached, and if he was impeached,

00:34:56.880 he would then lose his post-presidential immunity and could therefore face indictment for criminal

00:35:03.920 conduct tied to the Russian collusion hoax. You may have seen the clip recently where President

00:35:10.800 Trump actually speculated that the recent Supreme Court decision regarding presidential immunity

00:35:17.600 probably helped Obama in a substantial way. But now, Schoen has added to the entire picture

00:35:25.280 with this explosive revelation coming just days ago. Schoen just isn't letting Obama off the hook.

00:35:32.640 Now, let's be very clear. It was during their second failed impeachment attempt against Trump

00:35:38.240 that Democrats moved the goalposts. They're the ones who claimed that impeachment could apply 0.59

00:35:43.440 even after a president leaves office. They did this in a desperate bid to disqualify Trump from running

00:35:50.160 again. A tactic that came back to haunt them, to say the least, as the tsunami of lawfare that Donald

00:35:57.520 Trump faced in state and federal courts backfired badly. And the president had the courage and the

00:36:05.040 perseverance to fight his way to the greatest comeback in American political history. So David Schoen said

00:36:13.440 that Trump was right when he said the immunity decision by the Supreme Court would help President

00:36:18.080 Obama. But this impeachment dogma put forward by the Democrats, now hosted on their own petard,

00:36:28.240 is most ironic. Schoen pointed out directly to Article 1, Section 3, Clause 7 of the Constitution.

00:36:36.720 The very clause that the Democrats used during their second sham impeachment of President Trump

00:36:43.280 to argue that a former president could still be tried and barred from holding office again. In

00:36:49.920 doing so, they have inadvertently opened the door for the same standard to now apply to Barack Hussein

00:36:57.600 Obama. All of their sphincters are puckering right now, folks, because they're all in the crosshairs.

00:37:05.600 This is the greatest single dirty trick in American politics and abuse of power in which the full

00:37:11.760 legal authority of the United States government and the extraordinary capability of our intelligence

00:37:17.360 agency were weaponized in an effort to remove a duly elected president. The president said it way back

00:37:24.880 in his interview with Leslie Stahl on CBS. They spied on my campaign and we caught them. We caught them

00:37:30.960 red-handed. And indeed, thanks to the courage of Donald Trump and the authority he invested in

00:37:36.720 the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, we now have the stone-cold truth. Speaking of Tulsi

00:37:44.080 Gabbard, she joins us tomorrow on The Stone Zone. You're not going to want to miss that. Until then,

00:37:49.440 God bless you and Godspeed.

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