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00:00:37.600 There is no greater title that history can bestow than that of Peacemaker.

00:00:43.760 During his first term as president, President Donald Trump forged the historic Abraham Accords,

00:00:50.300 which achieved peace between Israel, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Lebanon.

00:00:55.080 Now, in his historic second term, he has forged peace between India and Pakistan, Serbia and Kosovo, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda, ending a particularly long and bloody war.

00:01:11.380 He achieved a ceasefire between Thailand and Cambodia, also achieving a peace agreement between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

00:01:19.180 And, of course, the historic ceasefire between Israel and Iran.

00:01:25.080 Now he stands on the cusp of perhaps his greatest achievement in the name of peace, an end to the bloody conflict between Ukraine and Russia.

00:01:34.480 But the nattering nabobs of negativism in the mainstream media, particularly CNN and MSNBC, are desperate to scuttle any peace agreement.

00:01:47.060 They jumped the gun by saying that President Trump made concessions to Russian strongman Vladimir Putin when there's no evidence to support that claim.

00:01:57.080 They also challenged Marco Rubio, the secretary of state, to to reveal on air at MSNBC what concessions had been made.

00:02:06.880 And he chewed them out, pointing out that you don't negotiate for peace in public.

00:02:12.340 Perhaps the folks over at MSNBC should go read a copy of President Donald Trump's book, The Art of the Deal.

00:02:19.840 There's nobody worse than Nicole Wallace, but that figures she is a deep state mouthpiece, having worked previously for George W. Bush, who brought us the historic and baseless war on Iraq based on the false claim that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and that Iraq had played some role in the attack on America on 9-11.

00:02:47.340 The folks at CNN are embarrassing in their obviousness.

00:02:51.100 Now, some will say that, well, Roger Stone doesn't like CNN because, based on their incisive investigative reporting,

00:02:59.620 they just happened to be 25 feet from his front door at 6 o'clock in the morning when he was arrested in the fake Russian collusion hoax.

00:03:10.060 In fact, I was arrested at 6 o'clock.

00:03:12.480 We now know that. Well, to lie under oath in your voluntary testimony before Congress about Russian collusion that never actually happened.

00:03:22.860 And with the recent declassification of documents by Tulsi Gabbard, it's now clear that there was no online hack of the Democrat National Committee to lie about.

00:03:34.240 In fact, the FBI admitted in my trial they'd never inspected the servers.

00:03:39.940 And that claim is based on a secret report by a third party IT firm called CrowdStrikes.

00:03:48.140 In fact, the head of CrowdStrikes, a man named Sean Henry, who just happens to have been a deputy to Robert Mueller,

00:03:55.900 who will soon face seditious conspiracy charges, testified for the House Intelligence Committee,

00:04:03.940 same committee I testified, under oath that he actually had no proof of an online hack.

00:04:08.780 There is no evidence of an online hack. So I find the actions of CNN despicable as

00:04:16.040 probably the greatest president of my lifetime valiantly fights to achieve a historic peace.

00:04:23.380 Just days after President Trump met in Alaska with Vladimir Putin, incredibly Susan Rice, the national security advisor to Hillary Clinton, the woman who lied about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi when she claimed that there was a spontaneous uprising of of people in Libya storming our embassy,

00:04:47.640 When, in fact, there was a precision military attack on our embassy, which they clearly had a floor plan.

00:04:54.460 They knew where the safe room was. It ended up in the tragic and violent death of four Americans, including the violent violation of our U.S. ambassador.

00:05:04.240 This woman lies with a straight face and with impunity.

00:05:07.000 She actually claimed that Vladimir Putin planted a bug in President Donald Trump's limousine, also known as the beast.

00:05:18.480 She says this with no evidence or proof whatsoever.

00:05:21.660 It's just another lie.

00:05:23.180 But then Susan Rice was in the room on July 2nd, 2017, when the entire Russian collusion hoax was planned by President Barack Obama.

00:05:34.820 So like Robert Mueller, who I think will probably seek an insanity plea because he's non-compass mentis, was during the investigation, certainly is today.

00:05:46.740 Susan Rice, I think, will soon be facing charges.

00:05:50.960 But it's just a perfect example of the permanent establishment, the deep state, once referred to by President Dwight Eisenhower as the military industrial complex.

00:06:02.120 Desperation and frantic attempts to scuttle this peace agreement.

00:06:06.720 Why would they do so?

00:06:08.140 Well, war is incredibly profitable for some people, like defense contractors,

00:06:14.800 those who want to continue to money launder, or those who want to continue to traffic children. 0.54

00:06:21.820 Ukraine is a center for both. 0.58

00:06:24.600 Then, of course, there are the kickbacks and the skims from the literally billions of dollars 0.57

00:06:30.040 that American taxpayers have provided for this endless foreign war.

00:06:35.020 Now, just days after President Trump held the historic peace summit with Putin in Alaska,

00:06:40.680 the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelensky, arrived with a host of European leaders in Washington, D.C.

00:06:46.320 to meet with President Trump.

00:06:48.160 Now, why Zelensky wears a proper suit and tie when he's speaking to the World Economic Forum,

00:06:54.560 but he can't wear a suit and tie when he meets with the president of the United States

00:06:59.560 and he can't wear a suit and tie when he addresses a joint session of Congress really irks me. 0.99

00:07:06.220 See, I think it is disrespectful, but I recognize that his all black garb, 0.99

00:07:12.440 kind of like the Ukrainian Johnny Cash, it's a costume. Reminds me when Fidel Castro would show 0.99

00:07:19.200 up in Fatigues. He's playing a role. And in fact, Zelensky is a former actor, comedian, 0.98

00:07:26.200 Although I never found him terribly funny, I think he is paid by the moneyed interests in Ukraine to play the role of president.

00:07:34.500 It seems, however, that the meeting today went much better with President Trump and Zelensky seeming to get along much better than they did the last time.

00:07:42.400 When Zelensky was coached by various people, including Susan Rice, including Senator Blumenthal from Connecticut, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, all three of them coaching Zelensky prior to his meeting with Trump not to accept any peace deal, which I personally believe is a violation of the Logan Act and is prosecutable.

00:08:07.600 You see, you can't have your own private foreign policy.

00:08:12.340 President Trump said after the meeting, we can work a deal where we're working on a peace deal that they are fighting.

00:08:20.080 They have to fight. I wish they would stop.

00:08:22.560 I'd like them to stop, but strategically, that would be a disadvantage for one side or the other.

00:08:27.260 President Trump said that Russia is now indicating that they are willing to allow security guarantees for Ukraine moving forward.

00:08:34.820 President Trump also said the Ukraine has no business being a member of NATO.

00:08:39.160 In fact, for them to formally join NATO would be a violation of two agreements the United States formally entered into, the Budapest Memorandum and then the Minsk Accords.

00:08:52.240 You see, when East and West Germany were reunified and the Russians agreed to that, we in turn agreed not to push Ukraine into NATO,

00:09:01.620 which really is defined as not mounting missiles or bioweapons labs on the ground to the detriment of Russia.

00:09:11.860 It's really not different than the situation in 1962 when Nikita Khrushchev put Russian ICBM missiles on the ground in Havana, Cuba, 90 miles from the shore of the United States.

00:09:26.940 The president did say that Ukraine would need to formally cede Crimea to the Russians for peace.

00:09:34.340 Although the Russians already control Crimea, they took it from Ukraine back when Barack Obama was president. 0.56

00:09:44.020 Trump is now using his dealmaking prowess to make the best out of a very bad situation that was created by the Obama and then the Biden regimes.

00:09:53.760 This has been a long and ugly process, but President Trump will be successful, in my opinion, bringing the end to war, just like he's been successful in countless other places throughout the second term of his presidency.

00:10:08.360 I was honored this morning when the president reposted my tweet, I guess you'd call it my ex-posting, in which I cited his many achievements for peace, India and Pakistan, the ceasefire between Israel and Iran, Serbia and Kosovo, Congo and Rwanda, Thailand and Cambodia, Armenia and Azerbaijan.

00:10:30.040 on. And I pushed back against those deep state villains who would really like to scuttle the

00:10:37.640 peace process. Meanwhile, First Lady Milana Trump also made an appeal to Putin in a letter she

00:10:43.400 released. She said in today's world, some children are forced to carry a quiet laughter untouched by

00:10:50.620 the darkness around them, a silent defiance against the forces that could potentially claim

00:10:56.480 their future. In protecting the innocence of these children, you will do more than serve

00:11:02.400 Russia alone. You, sir, will serve humanity itself. Such a bold idea transcends all human

00:11:08.920 division, and you, Mr. Putin, are fit to implement this vision with the stroke of a pen,

00:11:15.080 a heartfelt appeal from the First Lady. Now that Trump and Putin are on the same page,

00:11:20.380 does put huge pressure on Zelensky and his European allies who are anxious to have us

00:11:26.600 to continue to pay for the war, but not willing to pay their share of that obligation.

00:11:31.960 The American people are fed off, fed up.

00:11:34.260 They are tired of this war and they want to turn off the spigot of unaccountable money.

00:11:40.080 And they don't want to keep provoking Russia for the free ride that Ukraine is getting.

00:11:46.520 They can no longer hide behind the United States because I think the jig is up. 0.96

00:11:51.400 President Donald Trump will not allow the U.S. taxators to be bilked any further or played like the suckers they have played us. 0.78

00:11:58.280 Peace will happen regardless of Zelensky's tantrums or being propped up by the Europeans who are basically saying, why don't you and he fight? 0.65

00:12:06.240 It's the oldest trick in the book. 0.71

00:12:08.600 If you're just tuning in, this is Roger Stone.

00:12:11.000 You're listening to The Stone Zone here on the Red Apple Audio Networks.

00:12:15.700 Later on in the program, we're going to talk about election integrity because President Donald Trump had a major announcement yesterday about doing away with mail-in ballots, questioning the integrity of electronic voting machines.

00:12:31.340 And Joe Hoft is going to join us.

00:12:33.680 Joe Hoft, formerly the Gateway Pundit, now reporting there as well as on his own,

00:12:40.620 is going to talk to us about the election integrity issue and what President Trump meant when he spoke about this.

00:12:45.780 But that's a little later in the program.

00:12:48.300 In the meantime, you're in the Stone Zone.

00:12:50.400 Stay in the zone.

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00:13:14.900 Abu Musa, a city councilman in the Muslim-American-dominated city of Hamtrak, Michigan,

00:13:22.380 was caught stuffing the ballot box shortly before a primary election earlier this month.

00:13:27.940 Footage has emerged of Musa being driven to a ballot box where he handed piles of ballots to the driver who then stuffed them into the insecure drop box in violation of state law.

00:13:39.560 Now, Musa won his reelection spot on August 5th, receiving 1,129 votes and beating out 11 other competitors.

00:13:49.660 But only 286 of Musa's votes came on Election Day, while 843 of his votes were cast by absentee or mail-in ballots.

00:14:00.460 So without the mail-in vote boost, Musa would have placed fifth in the election.

00:14:05.480 Two other Hamtrak City Council members were recently arraigned over election fraud changes in 2023.

00:14:12.040 Musa has currently not yet been charged.

00:14:15.000 I think this underscores President Trump's point that mail-in ballots open the door for fraud.

00:14:21.260 Actually, former Attorney General Bill Barr recently caught red-handed trying to set me up on January 6th,

00:14:28.460 even though any claim that I knew about, participated in, or condoned any illegal activity on January 6th is categorically false,

00:14:37.640 and there is no evidence to support that claim.

00:14:40.240 But there was a time when Barr actually went on CNN and said that mail-in ballots were an open invitation for fraud.

00:14:47.560 Who knows how many people like Musa in Michigan are committing fraud with absentee ballots.

00:14:52.620 Some may not be as blatant or reckless as he was, but they're certainly cheating and getting away with it as mail-in ballots make it extremely difficult to root out fraud.

00:15:02.360 I believe they must be banned immediately and we must return to one-day voting with supervised hand counts.

00:15:09.200 President Donald Trump clearly agrees because today he was on True Social where he announced his vision for free and fair elections.

00:15:17.300 President Trump said, I'm going to lead a movement to get rid of mail-in ballots.

00:15:20.380 And also, while we're at it, the highly inaccurate, very expensive and seriously controversial electronic voting machines,

00:15:28.440 which cost 10 times more than accurate and sophisticated watermark paper, which is faster, leaves no doubt at the end of the evening as to who won.

00:15:38.540 and who lost in any given election.

00:15:42.080 Well, Joe Hoft, who joins us momentarily, knows all about this.

00:15:47.440 He's written three books on election integrity.

00:15:51.120 Volume 1, Setting the Stage.

00:15:53.060 Volume 2, The Impossible Occurs.

00:15:55.440 And Volume 3, The Cover-Up.

00:15:57.840 He's going to talk to us about all of that.

00:16:00.420 If France can count 38 paper ballots in one evening,

00:16:05.560 then surely the United States can do the same thing.

00:16:09.060 President Trump emphatically stated his firm opposition to mail-in voting

00:16:12.320 was the mail-in ballots that showed up in the dead of the night

00:16:15.320 all simultaneously at 3 o'clock a.m. Eastern Time.

00:16:19.680 Many of these ballots, without a crevice or crease in them,

00:16:22.700 as polling centers throughout Democrat-run cities on election night of 2020

00:16:27.880 racked up these huge, from nowhere, margins for Joe Biden.

00:16:33.580 Do I believe Joe Biden got 81 million votes?

00:16:36.800 No, I don't.

00:16:37.820 Do I believe that on average he ran 20 percent ahead of where Barack Obama, a historic figure, ran in dominant African-American precincts?

00:16:46.480 No, I do not. 1.00

00:16:47.580 So the president's right.

00:16:48.860 It's time for a structural reform.

00:16:50.840 So elections will make cheating much more difficult for Democrats and the deep state usurpers because it'll only be a matter of time before they try it again.

00:16:59.520 Stay with us because Joe Hoft, who is an expert in election integrity, will join us to talk about the challenge that lies ahead.

00:17:08.500 You're in the Stone Zone. Stay in the zone.

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00:17:24.440 Welcome back into the Stone Zone on Saturday, August 9th.

00:17:28.520 I was honored, along with my good friend and great American patriot, General Michael Flynn, and the greatest mayor in the history of the city of New York, Rudy Giuliani, by the Gateway Pundit in a conference in Las Vegas, in which we celebrated our vindication based on the recent declassification of documents by that valiant patriot, Tulsi Gabbard, who serves as the director of national intelligence.

00:17:56.520 I was honored by Jim Hoft and Joe Hoft of the Gateway Pundit.

00:18:02.080 Joe Hoft publishes at joehoft.com.

00:18:04.920 He is a brilliant investigative reporter, a stout conservative, and a very good friend of mine.

00:18:11.380 We're honored to have him with us today.

00:18:13.780 Joe, welcome into the Stone Zone.

00:18:15.940 Hey, I'm thrilled to be here, Roger.

00:18:17.860 Thanks for having me.

00:18:18.880 What a great experience in Las Vegas.

00:18:20.700 Great patriots, great people, a great celebration of redemption and vindication.

00:18:25.680 Just a great time to be with you and Jim.

00:18:29.820 I know that you had to be as excited as I was when you woke up this morning and saw that President Trump had said that he's going to lead a movement to get rid of mail-in ballots.

00:18:39.260 And while we're at it, also get rid of the highly inaccurate, expensive and seriously controversial electronic voting machines, which the president correctly pointed cost 10 times more than accurate, sophisticated watermarked paper ballots.

00:18:54.740 He correctly said that paper ballots are safer and they would leave, no doubt, at the end of the election evening as to who won and who lost.

00:19:04.200 You have written a terrific three-volume set of books on election integrity.

00:19:10.480 It's called The Steel Collection.

00:19:13.420 Folks, you can go to Joe Hoff, that's H-O-F-T, JoeHoff.com to order these amazing books.

00:19:20.000 And I want to go through this because the 2020 election in the United States will go down as one of the most significant and darkest periods in U.S. history.

00:19:28.740 The winner would, of course, take control over a $22 trillion economy, a $5 trillion budget and the leadership of the free world.

00:19:36.800 President Trump, a billionaire who, despite constant harassment, attacks from the Democrats, members of his own party, big media, big tech and foreign entities, was very popular and his base was highly motivated.

00:19:49.580 His opponent was a failing old man who's actually too sick to openly campaign, Joe Biden.

00:19:55.920 Yet they expect us to believe that Joe Biden won.

00:19:59.900 Joe, what really happened on Election Day in 2020?

00:20:04.040 Well, Roger, thanks again.

00:20:06.120 Thanks so much for having me and for all your listeners.

00:20:09.140 Just know that, you know, you're listening to one of the greatest men in American history.

00:20:13.660 I think you, Rudy, and General Flynn will go down in history as great, great Americans, and maybe not just of the modern era, but of all time, and the hell that they put you guys through.

00:20:27.020 Like so many people that we had this past weekend in Las Vegas were just – it was outrageous.

00:20:35.720 It was a communist, fascist actions against the innocent, and we had so many people there.

00:20:42.400 It was actually 10 days ago or so in Vegas that shared their stories, and they're brilliant people, some of the best in America that were targeted by this regime.

00:20:52.940 And you stand tall now, and we were so honored to have you there, Roger.

00:20:57.700 I can't – I get goosebumps as you're sharing some of this stuff.

00:21:01.400 Literally, I got them that weekend.

00:21:03.120 It was just a thrilling experience for everybody there.

00:21:07.480 It was more than just listening to speakers.

00:21:10.140 It was much more than that.

00:21:11.280 And when I asked you if you'd come and get an award alongside Rudy and Flynn, you didn't flinch.

00:21:16.800 It was a snap of the finger on comment.

00:21:19.060 And same with Flynn and same with Rudy.

00:21:20.860 You guys were all there for each other.

00:21:23.440 I think that's what it was all about.

00:21:24.980 It was this camaraderie, this love for each other, and this vindication.

00:21:32.140 We won.

00:21:33.900 And then Flynn, as he shared, and you shared, it's time now to fight.

00:21:39.120 And it was just to be a part of that was just humbling and a great moment in my lifetime.

00:21:45.140 And so thrilled to be there with you.

00:21:47.460 You know, as far as, you know, all that's going on this morning, I woke up to that news, too.

00:21:52.740 And I was like, right on.

00:21:54.520 Thank the Lord Jesus.

00:21:56.320 You know, we've been heard.

00:21:58.040 And there's so many people across this country over the last four or five years that fought, that spent their own time and resources.

00:22:06.520 you know thousands of people to stand up and say this wasn't right and the gateway pundit we were

00:22:14.060 writing after the election at the gateway pundit jim and i story after story after story saying this

00:22:20.460 you know our efforts were so hard at the beginning right after the election even though we were

00:22:24.800 exhausted leading up to the election uh with our reporting pushing for president trump uh because

00:22:30.700 we love this guy and he's we know that he's the best for america he proved it again today

00:22:34.800 and um so um but it was uh it was shocking when we saw what happened and we kept writing stories

00:22:42.100 hoping that our efforts will help to overthrow this uh this stolen election and it didn't happen

00:22:49.400 and and i that's when i decided to write those three books uh the one thing that grabbed me

00:22:54.360 like you were saying about biden sitting in his basement too sick to even get out you're so right

00:22:58.880 We all saw it. I kept track. I'm a former CPA, oversaw a big block of business at one time in my life and also was an honor.

00:23:10.140 I kept a spreadsheet of Trump rallies and Biden rallies. I did it with Hillary and Trump in the prior election.

00:23:16.560 Trump crushed Hillary, by the way, but he destroyed Biden.

00:23:20.120 The numbers were like 1.1 million people at Trump rallies compared to less than 2,000 people at Biden's rallies.

00:23:28.780 I've kept track. I got it in a spreadsheet. Nobody's ever challenged me on those numbers.

00:23:33.720 And here yet the guy with less than 2,000 people in this rally, even with Bon Jovi at one where I think they got like 40 people.

00:23:42.040 I think that was it. Bon Jovi did one and never did any more.

00:23:45.360 I think it just was – it was impossible that that senile old guy in his basement with circles on the floor at his rallies that couldn't even get 2,000 people somehow got 80 million votes to upset one of the most popular presidents in 2020 in U.S. history with the most votes ever, legitimate votes ever in U.S. history up to that time.

00:24:11.160 So, yeah, it was insane.

00:24:13.640 the anecdotal evidence of a trump victory is overwhelming of course the mainstream media led

00:24:21.880 by cnn and msnbc by the way msnbc thinks they can now fool people they're changing their name to ms

00:24:29.140 now but it's the same old bs it has no credibility i don't get my news from msnbc for the same reason

00:24:36.200 I don't eat out of the toilet. Nothing they tell you is true. They were the leaders in disparaging

00:24:44.740 anyone who questioned the election. And as I unfortunately correctly predicted after the 2020

00:24:50.700 election, they were going to declare it a crime if somebody exercised their First Amendment right

00:24:57.480 to question the elections. They tried to make that a criminal offense to try to cover up the

00:25:02.060 greatest steal in American history. But I'm greatly encouraged by the fact that the Department

00:25:08.480 of Justice has now sent formal inquiries to election offices around the country demanding

00:25:13.920 access to voting machines, cybersecurity protocols, and access to voter rolls. It looks to me like the

00:25:21.000 Department of Justice is very seriously examining the 2020 election and their efforts to identify

00:25:27.700 crime. Tulsi Gabbard has already told us that she is going to declassify more documents that prove

00:25:34.440 that there was a seditious conspiracy to steal the 2020 election. So just as the criminal cabal

00:25:42.060 around Barack Obama has been exposed in the Russian collusion hoax, the greatest single

00:25:48.620 dirty trick in American political history, the greatest single abuse of power in our history,

00:25:53.200 I think the 2020 election is yet going to be exposed.

00:25:58.040 I highly recommend to people your three-book collection on the steel.

00:26:02.540 You can get it by going to joehoft.com.

00:26:06.400 That's joehoft, H-O-F-T, dot com.

00:26:10.160 I have not only read all three volumes, I've also gifted it to a number of my liberal friends

00:26:17.780 who refuse to believe that the election of 2020 could possibly have rigged.

00:26:22.880 But I like that you broke this down because you correctly point out that there are three stages here.

00:26:28.960 After months of preparation and pandering, the 2020 election finally arrived, November 3rd, 2020.

00:26:34.860 But what led up to that election is just as important as the election itself.

00:26:39.780 First of all, the fact that President Trump's campaign style of these enormous rallies with huge turnouts, which, by the way, no one in political history has ever been able to do that.

00:26:49.740 I worked for the great Ronald Reagan.

00:26:51.020 We still had to have advanced men beat the bushes to turn out big crowds.

00:26:55.180 Donald Trump is a force of nature.

00:26:57.440 We've never seen anything like it, and we never will.

00:27:00.720 But his campaign style was hampered by the COVID-19 pandemic restrictions, requiring people to stay home, preventing people from gathering in large spaces, requiring people to wear masks.

00:27:16.480 This very specifically, I think, threw the president off of his rhythm.

00:27:20.900 And if you look at the poll numbers, you will see as soon as those restrictions were ended and the president hit the road, he began to climb in all of the polls.

00:27:31.120 Joe, what say you?

00:27:32.780 Well, you know, like I mentioned earlier, I did tallies of both the 2016 and 2020 elections.

00:27:39.440 And Trump actually had more people at his rallies in 2020, even despite all these barriers and challenges in him.

00:27:46.480 you know, with COVID and stuff. So you're right. My first book was about, you know,

00:27:51.620 leading up to setting the stage, leading up to the election. First chapter of Roger,

00:27:56.280 as I look back and I'm kind of proud of this now, is I wrote on the deep state and I wrote about

00:28:00.940 this guy who I didn't know much about then and who I'd heard mentioned on Tucker Carlson's show

00:28:07.440 when Darren Beatty from Revolver was on there. And maybe you remember that he talked about Norm

00:28:14.020 and color revolutions and that really struck me because he's saying this is what's going on here

00:28:19.700 we're like what and so i wrote that down in my book and then what i noticed is after the election

00:28:26.400 after it was stolen a couple months after or a month even after biden was in office uh in the

00:28:32.340 white house uh time magazine came out with this famous article where they praised the people that

00:28:38.860 basically stole the election. They said they were heroes based on their rationale that it's okay to

00:28:46.100 overthrow an election in the U.S. if you don't like a candidate. And the first person they

00:28:51.820 interviewed was Norm Eisen, and the first person they quoted. And I was like, you've got to be

00:28:56.580 kidding me. And so that was really my first chapter leading into what led up to the election.

00:29:01.960 And President Trump, I sent him a copy of that book. He sent me a nice note back, Roger, in about

00:29:06.920 2022 in the heat of all this nobody you know the media is pushing real hard that january sixers

00:29:13.700 were insurrectionists the election was uh was uh free and fair and uh president trump's a criminal

00:29:20.520 for saying what he was saying and thank god he's got more guts than anybody you know we've seen

00:29:26.060 maybe in modern history where he just didn't have a problem saying no this thing was stolen

00:29:30.000 and despite what they said he stood up but wrote me a real nice note back and i really i'm really

00:29:36.340 proud of that today because there wasn't a lot of people that were standing up for him and writing

00:29:41.200 about this, backing it up with evidence. With my background, as I mentioned earlier, it was just

00:29:46.720 really absolutely, there was no doubt in my mind as I went through that. And then the second book

00:29:52.600 was on actually happened. And every single chapter that I discuss is, was, you know, there was,

00:30:00.380 There was there was major material issues that that a bona fide auditor of integrity would never have signed up on that election.

00:30:09.260 I'm not sure if you saw my point in Vegas where I where I shared, I believe this is I believe, you know, Andrew Weissman, this is that snake of a person.

00:30:23.300 I believe that he had a lot to do to impact our 2020 election.

00:30:28.200 And the reason is, I'm saying that, it's because in the early 2000s, he ended up with Christopher Wray and Robert Mueller.

00:30:37.860 They indicted a company called Arthur Anderson.

00:30:41.780 It was a huge accounting firm full of integrity, and the company went under the next day.

00:30:48.320 It was done.

00:30:48.980 You can't have an auditing firm that's being indicted by the DOJ.

00:30:53.680 And they had 80-some thousand people that lost their jobs around the world.

00:30:57.180 I've talked to somebody in Japan who lost his job through that debacle, and years later went to the Supreme Court.

00:31:03.600 The Supreme Court said, no, they didn't commit.

00:31:05.480 That's not a crime even that you're mentioning, Mr. Weissman.

00:31:09.980 But the company was gone.

00:31:11.860 And so in 2020, when we needed really good auditors of integrity from these big four firms now, the big four instead of the big five, what happened is nobody was raising their hand.

00:31:24.040 None of these firms were saying, hey, I'm going to we're going to step in and we're going to look at this and we'll give you a proper answer.

00:31:29.560 Nobody did that because I think because they were threatened by what happened almost 20 years prior where Arthur Anderson went under.

00:31:38.320 And none of these firms, you know, they felt like probably it'd be their death.

00:31:41.920 You know, you know, you know, that'd be into their company if they stood up and said the truth that these elections were stolen.

00:31:48.840 Yeah, it's amazing to me that Andrew Weissman still points to the Enron case, which took down both Enron and Arthur Anderson, as his crowning achievement.

00:31:57.260 With all due respect, he was not only overturned nine to zero by the U.S. Supreme Court, but he was also accused of prosecutorial misconduct.

00:32:06.000 This is a man who got his start covering up mob murders in Brooklyn, moved on to the destruction of Enron and Arthur Anderson, and then was in the middle of the Russian collusion hoax.

00:32:17.220 He's also the guy that I now know based on the fact that CNN texted a copy of my sealed indictment to my attorney minutes after I was arrested, which had no court markings on it.

00:32:28.520 But when you look at the metadata tags on that document, you have the initials of the man who wrote it.

00:32:34.680 Therefore, the man who illegally leaked it.

00:32:36.600 That would be Andrew Weissman.

00:32:38.740 He's within the sound of my voice.

00:32:40.580 But if I were him, I'd be lawyering up because the boom is off the rose.

00:32:46.760 This is no longer conjecture or just great investigative reporting by people like Paul Sperry or Lee Smith or Jonathan Solomon.

00:32:56.760 This is now stone cold fact proven by the declassified documents put forward by Tulsi Gabbard.

00:33:02.760 There was a seditious conspiracy to commit treason and undo a duly elected president and overturn an election.

00:33:11.660 We're going to continue our conversation with Joe Hoff when we come back.

00:33:15.280 So please, whatever you do, don't touch that dial. Stay in the zone.

00:33:20.440 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:33:25.960 And we're back in the zone.

00:33:33.740 Joining us in the zone today is Joe Hoft.

00:33:36.540 You can find him at joehoft.com.

00:33:40.020 He's written a terrific three-volume set of books on the 2020 election.

00:33:45.600 Takes your breath away.

00:33:46.540 You can get those by going to joehoft.com.

00:33:49.860 That's H-O-F-T, Joe Hoft, J-O-E-H-O-F-T.com.

00:33:54.300 I strongly and highly recommend these terrific books to, if you want to know what really happened in the 2020 election.

00:34:01.280 Joe, the Missouri Secretary of State, Denny Hoskins, held a public demonstration on how a hand count would work,

00:34:07.940 showing that it would not be complicated and it would be relatively easy to accomplish.

00:34:13.300 It seems to me that of all the excuses against hand counting,

00:34:17.820 they're virtually all thinly veiled propaganda from people who just want to cheat.

00:34:21.820 We've only got about three minutes here, but how do we dispel the lies from people who oppose paper ballots and an honest hand count?

00:34:31.940 Yeah, well, first of all, I guess the obvious is, and, you know, if you read my books, and thanks for mentioning them, the current elections are uncertifiable in every area I looked at.

00:34:43.500 I feel like I'm a pretty, you know, good expert in this arena because I've done audits around the world, literally.

00:34:51.820 even in communist China. So I know what I'm talking about with audits. I've done multi-million

00:34:56.580 dollar fraud audits in Japan. Our elections are not certifiable on every count. These systems

00:35:03.540 are broke. There's security issues. You don't use the system with security issues in the corporate

00:35:08.580 world. You shut it down and you shut it down right now. You can't afford to have somebody

00:35:13.120 sneaking in, stealing your information or inserting information into your system. So

00:35:17.820 that's the kind of weakness that we have in our current system process. We have our election

00:35:23.360 process. We have to get rid of the systems. The way that we did elections for centuries was just

00:35:29.740 the way that you just mentioned the paper ballot process. And it worked really well. There's,

00:35:36.020 there's always going to be some cheaters around, especially I think in big cities

00:35:39.980 where, you know, people are made names are made up or whatever. We got to manage that through,

00:35:44.920 you know adequate voter rolls and etc but um we uh cannot go on with this process and we've got

00:35:52.480 to change your paper ballots works and i talked to a young lady in italy and uh she says they do

00:35:58.540 uh their elections uh paper ballots you walk into a local precinct uh where you uh you provide an id

00:36:05.640 you have a they have your record there they check you off they give you the ballots you go fill them

00:36:10.520 You drop them off, and you walk out and get your ID back, and they stamp a booklet, actually, that you have.

00:36:17.980 It's like an election passport and leave.

00:36:20.500 And they have the election results in hours after the elections are closed. 0.63

00:36:24.720 And Italy is twice the size of California, and they can do it that night.

00:36:28.480 So it's not hard.

00:36:30.660 It's being done around the world, like in countries like Italy.

00:36:34.480 It makes all the sense in the world.

00:36:36.440 And a couple of things, too, is the further the distance between when an election, when a ballot is is is processed and when it reaches somebody, the higher the risk.

00:36:47.760 Same with the distance issue. This eliminates all that by just doing elections in a local precinct.

00:36:53.080 All right. We have to we have to wrap it up there. I want to thank our guest, Joe Hoff.

00:36:57.120 Go to Joe Hoff. Dot com. Get his great books. Joe Hoff. God bless you and Godspeed.

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