The Stone Zone ｜ 08-28-25
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Former Federal Reserve Board Governor Lisa Cook has filed a lawsuit against President Trump and the Board of Governors, claiming that she is Unfireable. She is the first Black woman to serve as a Federal Reserve Governor and the first black woman ever appointed to the Federal Reserve.
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The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
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Well, Federal Reserve Board Governor Lisa Cook, fired for cause early this week after
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mortgage fraud allegations surfaced, has filed her lawsuit against President Donald Trump,
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Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell and the Board of Governors, claiming that she
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Today, if there were a vote of the Federal Reserve, it would be five to four against cutting
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Those are the interest rates you pay when you buy a car or buy a home or pay off your
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mortgage or make a loan for your personal or business reasons.
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In this particular case, Lisa Cook, the black woman who serves on the Federal Reserve, got
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Specifically, she claimed that her home in Ann Arbor, Michigan was her principal legal residence.
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Therefore, she got a state tax break and a lower mortgage rate and a lower insurance rate.
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And then, just two weeks later, she claimed that a home she owned outside of Atlanta, Georgia
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And she also got another state tax break, a lower mortgage rate, and a lower insurance rate.
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Now, one cannot have two principal legal residences.
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The important thing to understand here is that the Federal Home Finance Agency
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prosecutes average citizens every year, every week, every month around the clock.
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You don't hear about it because they're not famous.
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But this is a crime, a crime for which literally hundreds of thousands of people have been prosecuted.
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Now, in this particular matter, Lisa Cook is being represented by former Hunter Biden attorney
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He's also representing New York Attorney General Letitia James, as she stands accused of committing
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He represented former New York State Majority Leader Joe Bruno when he was convicted.
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His conviction being thrown out by the Supreme Court, and then him getting totally exonerated
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when the federal government improbably retried him, but he fired Abby Lowell and got himself
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Also, former Senator Bob Torricelli, forced to resign from the U.S. Senate, represented by Abby
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The lawsuit filed in Washington, D.C., states a declaration that President Trump's August
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25th, 2025 purported firing is unlawful and void, and that Governor Cook remains an active
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member of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve.
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I spoke to Bradford Cohen today, a prominent member of the legal community here in Florida,
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who tells me that, in his opinion, cause, as defined in the law, is really whatever the
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In fact, in the history of the Federal Reserve, three previous Federal Reserve governors have
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resigned on those instances where they were under investigation, very much like Lisa Cook.
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Eric Rosengen, Richard Clarinda, and Robert Kaplan were all federal board governors, and all
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of them resigned under a cloud because they were under federal investigation.
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Cook is, of course, the first black woman ever appointed to the Federal Reserve, and I guess
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she thinks due to DEI privilege that she is untouchable no matter how much corruption she
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As the Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Besson, said so succinctly in an interview yesterday,
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She says that she's being targeted, like it's some kind of an act of selective prosecution,
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when in fact what she's really saying is that she's above the law.
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She should be held to a different standard than everyone else.
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When privilege is the typical entitled mindset of the DEI American, and everything has been
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handed to because of your ethnicity or the cover of your skin or because of your gender,
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Hopefully the courts dismiss this ridiculous lawsuit.
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I believe they will, but the bad news is the case has been assigned to U.S. District Court
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Now, interestingly enough, I see a picture of Gia Cobb.
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She looks amazingly like Lisa Cook, and she was appointed by Joe Biden.
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Therefore, you can bet she is a left-wing activist jurist in D.C.
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I've had first-hand experience in the D.C. courts.
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I can tell you right now that this case, at least at the district court level, will be wrongly decided,
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meaning I wouldn't be shocked to see Gia Cobb rule for Lisa Cook,
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which means the U.S. District, the U.S. Supreme Court will ultimately get this case,
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where once again, I believe President Trump will win a resounding victory.
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Thank God for the Federal Housing and Finance Agency Administrator, Bill Pulte,
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who is being roundly criticized at the Wall Street Journal, Politico, all the usual suspects.
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By the way, if the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, MSNBC, CNN criticized you,
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And in this case, what he's doing is enforcing the law evenly, the same way it's enforced for average citizens.
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These elites seem to think that they're above the law.
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Adam Schiff takes a different approach than Lisa Cook.
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In his case, he claimed that his condominium in Burbank,
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which clearly, by the way, is not suitable for a family of four,
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which is what he claims to have, was his principal legal residence.
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But then he claimed that his home in Potomac, Maryland,
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which he refinanced four times, by the way, was his principal legal residence.
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Once again, he got another state tax break, based on the basis that it was his principal legal residence,
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a lower mortgage rate, and a lower insurance rate.
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But in Adam Schiff's case, when he was on NBC this weekend,
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You mean kind of like the Russian collusion hoax?
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Robin Westerman, the transgendered psychopath who committed a mass shooting on children
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expressed a deep regret about pursuing his gender transition.
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Westerman, who was born as a male named Robert,
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wrote in his manifesto about what a mistake he made
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joining the transgender cult and sacrificing his genitalia to Moloch.
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Our hearts go out to those who were murdered in that mass shooting.
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But let me point out yet again, Minnesota has among the most restrictive gun laws in the country.
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But if guns are made criminal, only criminals will have guns.
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The Nobel Peace Prize Committee has come out, no surprise here,
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against a Nobel Peace Prize for President Donald Trump.
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Even though President Trump has organized countless peace treaties and ceasefires,
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has made diplomacy great again from a U.S. foreign policy perspective.
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Influential members of the Norwegian, kind of tells you everything you need to know,
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Nobel Peace Prize Committee are heaping criticism on President Trump,
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making it less likely that he will win this award that, in my opinion, he so richly deserves.
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The Nobel Committee chairman, Jorgen Watney Freedness,
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has stated that Trump is responsible for, quote,
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the erosion of freedom of expression even in democratic nations.
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This is really strange because, of course, the people who were censoring folks on the Internet,
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whether it was Facebook or Instagram or YouTube or Twitter,
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that happened under Joe Biden and before him under Barack Obama.
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Actually, Donald Trump is the one who is committed to free speech,
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free speech in the United Kingdom, free speech in the United States, free speech in Europe.
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He wrote a book called Rules for Radicals, Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.
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Please, if you're listening to The Stone Zone regularly, keep this in mind.
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They are always guilty of exactly what it is they accuse us of doing.
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So when they say Donald Trump is a danger to democracy, no.
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It was Barack Obama, Joe Biden, CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey,
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National Security Advisor Susan Rice, the Director of National Intelligence General James Clapper.
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They are the ones who are a danger to democracy.
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They favor endless foreign war, above all censorship.
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Don't question the effectiveness or the efficiency or the safety of a COVID-19 vaccination.
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Otherwise, we'll be forced to just silence you.
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Another committee member of the Nobel Peace Prize Group of Elites,
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Christian Clement, said that President Trump is well underway in dismantling American democracy
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I wonder what it is he hates so much about America.
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Is it the fact that X now no longer allows censorship?
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Or is it our refusal to commit to endless foreign war?
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Another member of the Norwegian Nobel Peace Prize Committee, Gray Larson, posted in 2017
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that President Trump was putting millions of lives at risk by cutting foreign aid while wearing a cringe-inducing
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These people are laughable jokes, folks, elites.
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President Trump has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by the nation of Pakistan,
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as well as the chairman of the Tunica Biloxi tribe of Indians from Louisiana, Marshal Pirite.
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President Trump acknowledged that there was a good chance that no matter what I do,
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they'll never give it up and refuse to do any politicking or campaigning to actually receive the reward that he so richly deserves.
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The truth is the Nobel Peace Prize Committee has always been a tool to promote globalist leftism
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He fired more missiles than any president in American history.
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He has no accomplishments for peace, unlike Donald Trump, who negotiated a ceasefire between Israel and Iran,
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negotiated an end to the conflict between Iran and Pakistan,
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ended the hostilities between Armenia and Azerbaijan,
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ended the hostilities between Egypt and Ethiopia,
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ended the war between Rwanda and the Democrat Republic of Congo.
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Those are just some examples of why Donald Trump deserves this award.
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These elitist leftists who see everything backwards,
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not those who want to make their vaccinations mandatory.
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The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,
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announced new FDA rules today which fulfill his promises to stop COVID vaccination mandates,
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allowing people who want to take the vaccinations, the access to them,
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mandating placebo-controlled clinical trials from Big Pharma,
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and ending the emergency authorization to skirt normal authorization legalization protocols.
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JF, pardon me, RFK Jr. announced in an ex-post that he has rescinded
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emergency youth authorizations for COVID-19 vaccinations.
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The FDA has also issued a marketing authorization for COVID vaccinations produced by Moderna at
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ages 6 months and above, Pfizer at ages 5 and up, and Novavax at ages 12 years and up,
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making them available for patients only after they consult with their doctors ahead of time,
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and it is determined that there is an elevated risk of getting severely ill from COVID.
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This is what we have always favored, free choice.
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Let those who choose to take the vaccinations, take them.
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s critics who claim that he's anti-vaccination were lying all along.
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He never wanted to take vaccinations away from the people.
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He simply wanted people to be able to make informed choices without government coercion
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With one move after another, RFK Jr. is putting America back on the trajectory towards a
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health care and medical system that puts patients, not big pharma, first.
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This is very, very apropos from our upcoming guest.
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Dr. Kirk Moore was wrongfully prosecuted for upholding his medical ethics during the COVID-19
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He was facing 35 years in prison until the Trump Justice Department did the right thing.
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We're going to be right back with Dr. Kirk Moore to talk about that.
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It's a chilling story, which you're not going to want to miss.
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So far, I think Robert F. Kennedy is one of the absolute standouts of this cabinet,
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and he is fulfilling his mandate to make America healthy again.
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He's done so under withering criticism from big pharma and from their allies in the big media.
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Now, considering how much of today's paid advertising is paid for by large pharmaceutical firms,
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you can understand why Robert F. Kennedy has come in for specific criticism.
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But yesterday took the cake when Robert Kennedy, in the tradition of his uncle, John F. Kennedy,
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challenged America's to get fitter today and begin exercising,
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and he and the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, demonstrated by doing push-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups, and so on.
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The New York Times actually had an editorial urging people not to exercise because they said it might be dangerous.
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Kirk Moore is a respected 59-year-old physician and former Navy flight surgeon from Utah.
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Not for harming his patients, but for honoring his oath to do no harm.
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You see, with informed parental consent, Dr. Moore administered saline in the place of
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COVID vaccinations to children and adults who were facing coercive mandates that threatened
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their jobs, education, military service, and even life-threatening transplants.
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Dr. Moore acted out of compassion and ethics, not criminal intent.
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He treated patients for free during the COVID crisis.
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He made house calls, and he stood by those whose medical autonomy was under attack.
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Yet he was relentlessly prosecuted, jailed for 22 days, destroyed in the media, and stripped
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of hospital privileges and board certification, all because he put his medical ethics and his
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honor first, always prioritizing informed consent and patient safety.
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This federal case was riddled with jurisdictional flaws, suppressed evidence, and procedural violations.
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I certainly didn't go through what you went through from the standpoint of, you know, at
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gunpoint and all that, but yeah, it was pretty hairy.
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Well, I want to get into this because, and I want to give enormous credit to Attorney General
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Pam Bondi and the Trump Justice Department for dismissing all charges against you.
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The Attorney General publicly recognized the unjust nature of this prosecution.
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Also, credit to my friend, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene and Senator Mike Lay of Utah for
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their advocacy in helping secure this happy outcome.
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So let me ask you, you were prosecuted by the Biden regime.
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You were facing up to 35 years because of your refusal to submit to COVID-19 protocols during
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Can you explain the particulars of how this unfolded and indignities that you were forced
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And they did everything they could to, you know, make an example out of me.
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All I did was just do what was right and what I felt was right, what my patients, you know,
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And most people, almost everybody that we treated didn't have that choice.
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You know, even my own judge in during one of our hearings said that, well, the worst they
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I mean, the callousness of that kind of a statement is is just, you know, is just the
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way our system is kind of geared towards right now.
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It's kind of like do what the government wants you to do or else you're done.
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And you don't you know, you don't even you don't deserve to be alive.
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You don't deserve to kind of contribute to society.
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You know, the politicization of our judicial branch is something I really never really
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When I was falsely accused of covering up Russian collusion, which is, of course, an
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actual impossibility, because one cannot cover up something that never actually happened.
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So when they said you lied under oath, what would be my motive to lie?
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Hakeem Jeffries, congressman from New York, now the the minority leader in the House, he
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actually says in a tweet that Donald Trump pardoned Roger Stone and in return, Stone maintained
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his silence about Trump's wrongdoing, I say yet again, congressman, waive your congressional
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immunity and I'll sue you in a heartbeat because that's an egregious lie.
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And I actually was, I don't know, naive enough to thought when I was charged that, well, I'll
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I'll be able to prove that there is no Russian collusion.
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A little did I know the judge would never allow me to enter any evidence on my own behalf.
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It wouldn't she would allow me to call the witnesses I wanted to call.
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It was a Soviet style show trial start to finish.
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And I have little doubt that had you proceeded to trial, this is exactly what would have happened
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Um, you know, I was precluded from bringing to evidence any patients, uh, that came to
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me for the vaccine and for the saline shots or, you know, for the COVID cards, I couldn't
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bring anybody in and have them testify as to their own reasoning.
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I couldn't bring anybody that was vaccine injured and I couldn't bring any experts in
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to talk about all of the downsides of the vaccine and the shots that people were given.
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Um, so they were basically railroading me through, they didn't want to talk about the COVID vaccine
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because they know all about the downsides of it.
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Um, but yet, and they knew that they were going to lose if that was the case.
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So they did everything that they could just like they did for you in terms of limiting our
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I mean, ultimately they accused me of fraud and fraud requires intent and they're in for
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intent should allow me to tell the jury, Hey, what was my intention?
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And the weeks before trial, they filed four more motions that basically were going to preclude
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Um, and it, I mean, the whole process, again, the process is the punishment.
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They do this to, you know, they have, I mean, they have unlimited budgets.
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Um, they bankrupt, nearly bankrupted me, um, ruined my business, ruined my livelihood.
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They're doing it to anybody that they can that pushes back against their narrative.
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They don't allow you to mount any reasonable legal defense.
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In my case, for example, my whole case was based on the fact that the Russian intelligence
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hacked the Democrat National Committee and that I lied about it.
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Well, there never was any online hack of the Democrat National Committee by the Russians
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I wanted to bring expert testimony and forensic evidence from, uh, Bill, uh, Binney, who was
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the leading CIA counterintelligence IT expert who could have proved to a jury of all Democrats
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When, uh, when at my trial, the FBI was forced to admit that they had never inspected the computer
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servers of the Democrat National Committee, and therefore they were relying solely on the opinion
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of a third-party IT firm called CrowdStrikes, the judge refused to give my defense attorneys
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Now, you're supposed to be able to see the evidence against you, uh, as a fundamental,
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uh, matter of law, but now, of course, we know why.
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The head of CrowdStrikes testified before the House Intelligence Committee under oath,
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as I did, and even he admitted there was no evidence whatsoever, uh, in, in his possession
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or in the possession of the FBI that showed that the Democrat National Committee had been
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In fact, the forensic evidence was just the opposite.
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It showed that based on the download times of the material that was purloined, that the
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material had been downloaded to a portable drive of some kind and most likely taken out
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the back door, but my lawyers were not allowed to, to have that witness called.
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So, uh, I've been exactly where you were and I'm, I'm grateful to the Attorney General and
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to the Department of Justice for stepping in, uh, before this went horribly wrong.
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In general, how would you say you feel about the whole COVID-19 pandemic era?
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Well, look, um, I think the whole COVID, uh, thing is just a fraud, the whole thing from
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Um, and, uh, you know, I don't, I don't believe there ever was, uh, a pandemic.
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Uh, I think the actual disease and the COVID narrative was invented in order to launch the
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Um, and, you know, you, you can just look at everything.
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Excess deaths didn't start until the vaccine was deployed in January of 2021.
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Uh, there were 700 deaths that were reported to VAERS by, um, the end of January.
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There were 1,700 deaths reported to VAERS by the end of March.
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Um, and now there's 40,000 deaths that have been reported to VAERS, um, you know, uh, since
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40,000 vaccine, I mean, they took the, um, swine flu vaccine off in 1975, 76 with, with
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Some people say 25, some people say 50, but regardless, you know, double digit deaths.
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Um, and we have 40,000 people that have reported they died, uh, that have been screened and approved
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and, and, and, uh, documented on the VAERS database.
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Um, we have a study that was done in 2010, I believe, a Harvard study that said that those
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So 40,000 deaths, that means that, you know, it's either 400,000 to 4 million deaths have
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Um, and it's just what, what's going on right now is absolutely, it's truly, um, it's, it's,
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it's truly scary, uh, and, and what they're doing to physicians and what they're doing to
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the population right now, um, is, is, is a mass genocide as a democide is my opinion.
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Two things that interest me, uh, it's hard for me to understand how Dr. Anthony Fauci
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and his wife, who was also a high level health official in our government, were allowed to
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directly profit from the very vaccinations that they were trying to mandate.
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I mean, that should be, that should be illegal.
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You know, something else that I found out about this, Roger, is pediatricians directly
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profit from the number of vaccines that they give into their clinic.
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And they get bonuses based upon the percentage of their clinic that is vaccinated.
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Oncologists make money from the, from the, from the actual, uh, the, the actual chemotherapy
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Um, they are directly reimbursed by the pharmaceutical companies based upon the, you know, the protocol
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Um, you know, we're not, as physicians, we're not even allowed to own a, you know, a surgical
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center because they're worried about us self-referring to people.
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I mean, it's not just pediatricians, anybody who takes care of kids.
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So family practice docs, internists, um, you know, general practice physicians, pediatricians,
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Um, you know, they get paid a, you know, a, a, a bonus based upon the number of people
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Uh, final question for you about the two minutes we have left.
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There's a surprising spike in cancers among people in their twenties and thirties.
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Uh, we had an excellent guest, Michael Caputo, the former assistant secretary of HHS the other
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I mean, I, I talked to a guy the other day who said he saw a seven year old boy with
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I have a client, a friend of mine, who's actually a plastic surgeon, um, here locally, uh, who sees
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breast cancer patients and she sees on a regular basis, uh, women in their twenties with breast
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cancer, with advanced breast cancer that she's taking and doing reconstructions on.
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Um, it's the, the numbers are astronomically high.
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Um, I just watched a podcast with Dr. Chris Shoemaker who said that, um, if kids age 10 to
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14, this was in, this was national health service in England, England and Scotland and
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Wales, um, that there, the increase in death in kids age 10 to 14 was 82 times higher with kids
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So 10 year olds to 10 to 14 year old kids that get three COVID shots are dying at a rate that's
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82 times higher than kids that don't get vaccinated at all.
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Um, so with the numbers are there, um, and we have to figure out how to stop this.
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Um, but my goal is to get these COVID shots off the market, um, and figure out how to try
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Well, it has been our great honor to have you today in the stone zone.
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And we are celebrating your freedom, my friend.
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We'll be right back with our final segment here in the stone zone.
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The stone zone entertaining and informative on the red apple podcast network in America today.
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No issue better demonstrates the yawning gulf between the will of the people and the
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paralysis of their government, one of the, the policy towards cannabis, also known as
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marijuana, overwhelming majorities of Americans believe cannabis should be legal in some form.
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I've held this position for 30 years because when my own father was dying of cancer, he was
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not only in horrific pain, but he completely lost his appetite.
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A man who once weighed about 230 pounds was down to about 125 pounds.
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That's when my sisters and I decided to get him some illegal marijuana, which both eased
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his pain and restored his appetite, making his dying days far more comfortable.
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After all, alcohol is legal, far more damaging than marijuana.
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Yet we legalize it, we regulate it, and we tax it.
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At the federal level, Washington has dithered, stumbled, and flat out failed with one possible
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Since 2016, Donald Trump has taken the position that marijuana policy is a state's rights issue.
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The federal government's dereliction that has forced states to go it alone is something
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Some have bravely enacted medical or adult use cannabis laws seeking to serve their citizens
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Now, that doesn't mean you should be able to smoke it or consume it in public places.
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After all, you cannot have an open container of alcohol.
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And I dislike the fact that everywhere I go in Manhattan seems to, well, smell like pot.
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There should be regulations on it, but that doesn't mean that it should not be legal.
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The state reforms collide head on, of course, with federal policy, leaving consumers, patients,
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Imagine driving across state lines and discovering what you bought at a dispensary in one state,
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even at a 7-Eleven in some places, could earn you a felony charge in the next jurisdiction.
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When Trump signed the 2018 Farm Bill, he unleashed the hemp economy, creating jobs, investment,
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Trump's action didn't just extend access to benign hemp products.
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Hundreds of thousands of jobs and billions in investment now hang in the balance.
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Yet the industry remains shellacked by uncertainty because Washington refuses to reconcile federal law with reality.
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The chattering class insists that this is an either-or debate.
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Either Trump reschedules cannabis, moving it from a Schedule I drug of the Controlled Substances Act,
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where it's classified with heroin, absurdly, to a lower schedule, like, for example, Schedule 3,
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or, this is what I would favor, he deschedules it entirely, removing cannabis from a Controlled Substances Act altogether
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and letting the states decide how to regulate it.
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This is about progress, about, well, what must be done next.
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Rescheduling cannabis is not the endgame, but it is, in my opinion, a critical next step.
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The move would do more than signal a new direction.
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It would unlock immediate, measurable relief for patients, entrepreneurs, and state programs.
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Today, businesses would finally escape the crushing burden of the IRS Code 280E,
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which currently denies them ordinary tax deductions.
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That single change would level the playing field,
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allowing dispensaries and businesses and cultivators to be taxed like normal businesses,
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Rescheduling would also open the door to banking.
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Today, cannabis companies are forced to operate largely in cash
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because banks fear federal money laundering penalties.
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Schedule 3 would not only solve every obstacle,
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but it would reduce the risk profile enough that many regional banks and credit unions
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could finally provide accounts, loans, and payments processing
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Trump could dramatically reduce the public safety risks of cash-heavy businesses,
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increase tax compliance, and unlock billions in private investment.
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Universities and pharmaceutical firms could study cannabis without jumping through near-impossible DEA hoops.
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Evidence would accumulate quickly, proving what I already know,
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and THC deserves further study as both medicinal and a regulated product.
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