On today's show, Roger Stone takes a victory lap in honor of President Trump's impending signature on a bill that will end the government shutdown. But is it true that Trump was on Epstein's plane on one occasion? And did Bill Clinton ever fly on Epstein s private jet?
00:00:32.040Welcome. You are now entering The Stone Zone.
00:00:36.940We're coming to you live tonight from Washington, D.C.
00:00:41.360Where, as the old joke goes, it's so cold that the exhibitionists are describing themselves to people.
00:00:48.540It is a historic night because President Donald Trump is expected to sign the bill that will end the government shutdown.
00:00:56.460A subset of Democrat senators having folded on Chuck Schumer and his demands for $1.5 trillion in new spending in order to keep the government functioning.
00:01:09.760And the president, I think, is about to do a victory lap.
00:01:14.020The Republicans were always willing to keep the government operational through what's called a continuing resolution that would have continued to fund the U.S. government at current levels without any increases in federal spending.
00:01:29.780I do want to remind people, however, that when Elon Musk, a man that I admire a great deal, and I'm quite grateful because he returned my profile on Twitter, now known as X, where I am Roger J. Stone Jr., I was banned in 2017.
00:01:48.280I'm not really sure why they actually don't tell you why they just tell you you have violated their community standards, which I actually think means you supported Donald Trump, or you question the outcome of the 2020 election, or you question the safety and effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccination, or any other of the conventional wisdom narratives.
00:02:13.620But tonight, we see a return of the Democrats' vicious assault on President Trump, distorting once again the facts about his connection to convicted child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.
00:02:29.620Once again, a number of influencers and bots in the service of the Democrat Party are exhuming a phony line of attack, misstating the history between Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.
00:02:41.820It really should come as no surprise that Democrats previously used this entire line of attack to try to distract people from the fact that there is a former president who has extensive financial and social relationships with the rapist and sex trafficker Epstein, but that would be Bill Clinton.
00:03:06.660Well, I wrote about it extensively in my book, The Clinton's War on Women, published in 2015.
00:03:11.660In that book is, of course, the chapter, which is entitled Orgy Island, a title that I got from my good friend Sean Hannity.
00:03:27.660I also interviewed Virginia Roberts-Geoffrey for six hours to three-hour sessions.
00:03:35.680She was one of the women who was abused by Epstein, who refused a multi-million dollar settlement and pushed forward with her litigation against Epstein.
00:03:49.840She was, several months ago, we were told, committed suicide.
00:03:55.040Having interviewed her, I frankly doubt that very much, but I not only interviewed her, but I read every word of her sworn testimony in her lawsuit against Epstein.
00:04:05.400She does concur that Trump was at Epstein's Palm Beach home on one occasion, and on that one occasion...
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00:04:52.860She also said that he left relatively quickly after arriving.
00:04:57.140So, that Trump knew and was at social gatherings with Jeffrey Epstein is accurate.
00:05:03.880However, the idea that Trump ever visited Epstein's island or his New York residence is categorically false.
00:05:12.880In fact, Trump was only on Epstein's plane once, according to the FAA records that I cited in my 2015 book.
00:05:21.180The British tabloids now falsely claim that Trump had additional flights on Epstein's plane, but let's be very clear.
00:05:29.120The FAA records show that Donald Trump and his then-wife, Marla Maples, and their daughter, Tiffany Trump, were on Epstein's plane one weekend when Trump's plane was in for service.
00:05:43.600It left Teterboro in New Jersey, right outside New York City, flew to Palm Beach on a Friday, and returned from Palm Beach on that following Sunday night.
00:05:56.540So, Trump had his wife and his daughter with him, as well as a nanny.
00:06:01.240Now, the Palm Beach police chief, Michael Reiter, insisted to me when I wrote this book that he gave the state's attorney in Palm Beach County, Florida, enough evidence from a six-month undercover investigation to charge Jeffrey Epstein with 35 incidents of child sex trafficking and multiple counts of rape of a minor.
00:06:22.020Chief Reiter, Chief Reiter, therefore, was shocked when the state's attorney, an elected Democrat, filed the sweetheart plea deal that Epstein's high-priced lawyers, including Roy Black, Gerald Lefkort, Alan Dershowitz, and former U.S. Solicitor General Ken Starr, secured for him in Florida.
00:06:43.020The state's attorney who gave Epstein a slap on the wrist almost immediately resigned and formed a private law firm, which almost immediately began providing legal services to several of Epstein's accomplices.
00:06:58.240Trump actually broke with Jeffrey Epstein as early as late 2004, borrowing him from all of his properties after Epstein made an improper advance to the aforementioned Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who was then underage and working in the spa at Trump's club, Mar-a-Lago.
00:07:25.420That's before Epstein was exposed and charged in Florida.
00:07:30.040Epstein should have gone down initially for sex trafficking.
00:07:33.540Instead, he was allowed to plead to one count of solicitation, a shocking plea that required him to serve his time, not in a Florida state penitentiary like all other sex offenders, but in the air-conditioned and newly renovated Palm Beach County Jail.
00:07:51.240And even then, he only had to be in jail from 10 p.m.
00:07:59.740He even had his gourmet meals brought in.
00:08:03.460The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office operated more like Epstein's personal security detail as they transported him during his daytime business activities or in his leisure time at his Palm Beach mansion.
00:08:15.700Now, when Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Ryder took his concerns about the state's attorney's soft plea deal with Epstein to the U.S. attorney, Alex Acosta, he had jurisdiction for all of South Florida.
00:08:32.240Acosta essentially rubber-stamped the state plea deal, and then he sealed the record, which means we would know nothing today but for the extensive litigation by the Palm Beach Post newspaper, who ultimately obtained the documents that proved that the Bush Justice Department instructed Acosta, the U.S. attorney, to give Jeffrey Epstein a pass.
00:08:57.600So in preparation later, when Acosta would be appointed Secretary of Labor by President Donald Trump, Trump never having been told that Acosta had played some role in the soft plea deal for Jeffrey Epstein, but had been sold to Trump as an outstanding Hispanic nominee.
00:09:27.600In case as a U.S. attorney, he would simply say that the DAOJ had told him that Epstein worked for the CIA and that the matter needed to be sealed.
00:09:41.080So after his state sentence, Epstein essentially returned almost immediately to his management of his blackmail and sex trafficking operations, and but for the dogged reporting of a reporter named Julie K. Brown of the Miami Herald, these facts about Epstein probably would never have come to life, nor would his, I think, highly questionable suicide.
00:10:06.080As I say, Virginia Roberts, among his victims who sued Epstein for sexual abuse, in her lawsuit deposition, she admitted that she had met the billionaire Donald Trump, and he was, as I say, a complete gentleman.
00:10:20.900Trump turned down numerous invitations to Epstein's hedonistic private island and his Palm Beach home.
00:10:27.080There is no evidence whatsoever that Donald Trump did anything inappropriate or improper.
00:10:35.080Norma Federer, rest her soul, President Trump's longtime personal assistant, who had become a very good friend of mine, told me that Trump thought Epstein was creepy and barred him from both Mar-a-Lago and barred him also from his properties.
00:10:50.760I remember Trump telling me that the one time he visited Epstein's Palm Beach home, as he pulled up with his security detail, the swimming pool was full of young girls.
00:11:04.060Trump told a member of his club, how nice, I thought.
00:11:07.780He let the neighborhood kids use his pool.
00:11:10.520But according to his personal security guard, Trump left Epstein's home within 15 minutes of arrival, feeling uncomfortable, even in this public fundraising event with the strange ratio of men to much younger women.
00:11:24.720Many of the Epstein-based smears against Trump are now recycled by those who would like to distract from the fact that they just closed down the federal government.
00:11:35.240But Epstein, in fact, provided millions of dollars in seed funding for the Clinton Global Initiative, was a heavy donor to the Clinton Foundation.
00:11:45.360In fact, it is former President Bill Clinton who visited Epstein's island on at least 17 occasions, as well as being identified in the FAA flight records as having been on Epstein's plane as many as 26 occasions.
00:12:00.660The Clinton Foundation, by the way, provided 100 percent of the funding for Terra Mar, a nonprofit controlled by Epstein's pimp co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell, which was actually used to hire young female interns to allegedly work on environmental projects while actually constituting a grooming pool.
00:12:22.560What happened today is House Democrats released a bunch of emails from 2019, most of which are redacted, but none of which actually prove that Donald Trump had knowledge or was involved in any inappropriate way with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:12:42.360When we come back, we'll talk about who did take money from Epstein.
00:12:46.380That would be Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, and what big-name political figures were on Epstein's island, including former President Bill Clinton.
00:12:59.520I favor full and complete disclosure of all of the Epstein records, and the sooner we do it, the better, because the sooner we do it, the sooner we'll be able to prove that Donald Trump has literally nothing to hide.
00:14:15.960I can't tell you how much I appreciate those warm words from Vice President J.D. Vance.
00:14:22.740We're talking about Jeffrey Epstein and the latest smears trying to connect him to Donald Trump.
00:14:29.540While they both knew each other, there is no question about that.
00:14:33.180There is no evidence whatsoever of wrongdoing by Trump, who cut off Epstein as early as 2004, before Epstein was exposed in the state of Florida as a sex criminal.
00:14:45.620Actually, it's New York Senator Chuck Schumer, who accepted thousands of dollars in donations from the pedophile through the 1990s, according to a report in the New York Post.
00:14:58.260Federal Election Commission records show that Schumer received seven $1,000 donations, which was then the legal maximum, from Jeffrey Epstein between 1992 and 1997, beginning when Schumer was a U.S. congressman, and then when he was actually running to be the state's U.S. senator in 1998.
00:15:20.500Epstein, who would later, of course, be charged by the Trump Justice Department in 2019 with one count of child sex trafficking and a second count of conspiring to engage in child sex trafficking, also gave a $10,000 contribution to Victory New York, a joint fundraising committee established by Senator Chuck Schumer and the Democrat Senatorial Committee.
00:15:48.320Epstein also gave an additional $5,000 to win New York, a Schumer-associated joint committee that benefited the then Liberal Party of New York State, a party that no longer exists.
00:16:02.500Both of Epstein's donations to these committees came in October of 1998 and looked to have been primarily benefited the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee and the old Liberal Party of New York.
00:16:15.800Epstein would have already met the $2,000 limit when it came to donating to Schumer directly.
00:16:22.940At the time, donors could only give $1,000 to a candidate per election, once in a primary, again in the general election, which means that Schumer and Schumer-linked entities received a combined $22,000 from Jeffrey Epstein.
00:16:38.980Now, on the question of whether Epstein did, in fact, kill himself, you can put me down as a skeptic.
00:16:45.980I point out that the former New York medical examiner, Michael Baden, one of the most respected pathologists in the country, was hired by Epstein's family to examine his body.
00:16:59.120And Baden, who has seen over 1,000 hanging cases and conducted the autopsies in them, said that the bone fractures in various bones in Epstein's neck were completely and totally inconsistent with his having hung himself.
00:17:18.460Why the rush to judgment is a little hard to understand, FBI Director Kash Patel actually said in an interview that he's seen no evidence whatsoever that Epstein was involved in sex trafficking of children to others.
00:17:33.640Which leads me to believe what information was shown to the grand jury in 2019 when Epstein was charged with child sex trafficking, as well as a secondary count of conspiring to engage in child sex trafficking.
00:17:49.560I would point out that when the Trump current Justice Department moved to release all of the grand jury testimony against Epstein, that Democrat judges in both New York and Florida blocked public release of that information.
00:18:05.640So when it comes to the question of Jeffrey Epstein, put me down as being in favor of full and complete public disclosure.
00:18:13.020So this can no longer be used as a smear against Donald Trump or an attempt to distract from the fact that the Democrats just shut down the entire federal government for more than 40 days.
00:18:26.260I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to The Stone Zone. And we'll be right back.
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00:20:10.320The House has now passed the bill to end the government shutdown.
00:20:14.760And the president will sign that moments from now.
00:20:17.980Congressman California, California Congressman Eric Swalwell, has faced a barrage of controversy in recent years,
00:20:25.860including his alleged extramarital affair with a communist Chinese spy, Fang Fang.
00:20:33.620Let's just say that Swalwell penetrated her and she penetrated his office by placing a staffer there.
00:20:41.520Significant because Swalwell was on the House Intelligence Committee where he had access to classified national security information.
00:20:51.700Of course, there was also his famous on-air mishap in 2019, an interview with Chris Matthews,
00:20:58.800in which quite memorably he, shall we say, broke wind, as the British would say.
00:21:03.840But now a new revelation raises even more serious questions about Eric Swalwell's integrity and his eligibility to actually serve in Congress.
00:21:14.260Despite serving as a congressman from California's 15th district and claiming that his hometown is Livermore, California,
00:21:22.700on his official House profile, Swalwell has declared his Washington, D.C. property as his, quote, principal legal residence.
00:21:33.040A public deed of trust for Swalwell's home at a Washington, D.C. address, which I'm not going to dox in this public radio program,
00:21:43.840confirms that the property was designated on the deed of trust as his principal legal residence as a condition of his mortgage loan.
00:21:54.660The deed also includes explicit language, making the borrower liable for false or misleading statements regarding the occupancy of the property.
00:22:05.620It specifically says, quote, borrower shall be in default if borrower gave material false, misleading, or inaccurate information or statements to the lender.
00:22:18.000Material representations include borrower's occupancy of the property as the borrower's principal residence.
00:22:25.380But under Article 1, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, members of the U.S. House must be, quote,
00:22:32.980inhabitants of the state they represent at the time of their election.
00:22:37.720In California, maintaining this inhabitancy means that holding tangible, verifiable ties to the state,
00:22:44.980such as owning or renting a residence, registering to vote, paying state income taxes, and possessing a California driver's license.
00:22:53.740California's Election Code 349 goes even further.
00:22:58.460It says a domicile is defined as the place in which his or her habitation is fixed and the place where a person intends to return and remain.
00:23:08.880So if Congressman Eric Swalwell's true domicile is in Washington, D.C.,
00:23:14.260as he says on the deed to his property and on the mortgage documents, all of which are public,
00:23:20.280the city he has declared as his principal residence, he may no longer meet the basic requirement of being a California, quote, unquote, inhabitant.
00:23:30.160Public record searches have not revealed any other home or lease under Eric Swalwell's name in California.
00:23:38.460The address most often associated with his background in Livermore, California, is a three-bedroom, 1,350-square-feet home that belongs to a California family,
00:23:50.880and they have lived there since 2008, making it highly unlikely that Swalwell resides there today.
00:23:58.740Failure to maintain a legitimate residence in California could therefore expose Eric Swalwell to legal, ethical, and electoral repercussions.
00:24:09.040A false declaration of residency risks tax violations, misrepresentations to lenders, and challenges to his eligibility to run for re-election.
00:24:18.980Politically, the revelation of a Washington, D.C., principal residence undermines Swalwell's credibility
00:24:26.540and fuels the accusations of hypocrisy, especially since Swalwell rose to power by attacking his predecessor,
00:24:34.280the late Pete Stark, for being out of touch with the district due to the fact that Pete Stark lived outside of California.
00:24:42.220During his 2012 campaign, Eric Swalwell's mailers mocked former Congressman Pete Stark, a liberal Democrat,
00:24:50.560as missing from his congressional district.
00:24:53.600But now, Swalwell himself may be the one who's gone completely missing from the state he's supposed to represent.
00:25:00.640Swalwell's inability to maintain a California home may stem from his personal financial mismanagement,
00:25:08.840his 2025 financial disclosure reports paint a very bleak picture indeed.
00:25:16.200So, despite earning $174,000 per year for 13 years as U.S. Congressman,
00:25:22.940Swalwell has failed to pay down his student loans, remains mired in credit card debt,