The StoneZONE with Roger Stone

00:00:00.380 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:17.260 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:00:21.140 People love him and respect him, Roger Stone.

00:00:23.880 Now, get in the zone. It's the Stone Zone.

00:00:27.840 Here's Roger Stone.

00:00:30.000 Always good to be back with you.

00:00:32.700 My name's Ken Matthews. I'm in for Roger Stone tonight in the Stone Zone on the Red Apple Audio Networks.

00:00:39.240 The number's 800-848-9222.

00:00:44.260 It is Friday Eve.

00:00:47.040 I'm very excited. Very excited.

00:00:49.380 And I'm glad you're tuning in today.

00:00:50.720 We have a lot to talk about today.

00:00:52.020 It's been a very bumpy week.

00:00:56.600 And if you follow me on other platforms or if you're familiar with my work, you know that I don't follow narratives.

00:01:05.020 And no, I don't.

00:01:07.820 And I'm just, I'm getting a weird feeling about a few things that are going on out there.

00:01:13.280 So I thought I would get you to weigh in on it.

00:01:16.660 Because you may have similar feelings or you might be able to explain some things.

00:01:21.080 So what I'd like to do, since it's been one year and one week since President Donald Trump was elected for the third time.

00:01:30.880 So he was elected a year ago.

00:01:33.240 He hasn't been in office this third term quite a year.

00:01:37.220 But I think we need to discuss how far off the rails things are going behind the scenes and in the administration.

00:01:47.940 And I'm trying to figure out, is it a group of people that are trying to move Trump in a different direction?

00:01:54.420 Is it just publicity or is Trump actually moving in a different direction and he really doesn't have to respond to us anymore because he doesn't need the votes?

00:02:12.820 Now, I know with some people that's probably sacrilege, but I don't I don't worship Trump.

00:02:19.300 I don't worship any politician.

00:02:22.400 I supported Trump a lot.

00:02:25.600 I campaigned for Trump.

00:02:27.320 I interviewed his sons.

00:02:29.920 I interviewed Laura.

00:02:33.040 And for the most part, I'm still happy he's in.

00:02:37.220 I mean, he is the quote unquote best choice we had.

00:02:42.160 Right.

00:02:42.860 But I had it.

00:02:43.920 I had a show last week.

00:02:44.920 We were talking about this whole concept of the lesser of two evils, which I hate.

00:02:48.520 I hate that whole concept because that's how the country ended up with a thirty seven trillion dollar debt.

00:02:56.480 And now we're changing the immigration policy and we have some other issues that I think we need to discuss because we just kind of had our butt handed to us in this last election.

00:03:07.520 We took a hit in Virginia.

00:03:09.060 We took a hit in New York City.

00:03:10.580 We took a hit in New Jersey.

00:03:12.440 And I thought for sure, because of that.

00:03:16.480 Stay with me now.

00:03:17.760 I thought this is it.

00:03:19.940 There is an awakening now.

00:03:21.420 There's an awakening in the conservative movement and the Republican Party.

00:03:26.500 And they're going to say, see, we told you that you're drifting away from America first and make America great again.

00:03:34.380 And you've kind of ticked off the base a little bit.

00:03:39.320 Now, you're seeing all kinds of propaganda and that's what it is.

00:03:42.660 I know what propaganda is.

00:03:44.220 I've been in the media for a long time.

00:03:46.240 And most media, just like most news, most network news channels, are just designed to get you to think a certain way.

00:03:57.940 So when someone comes out and starts asking questions or just saying things you may not have heard on Fox and Friends or wherever, some people just freak out.

00:04:09.580 But we better step back a minute and look at what just happened in the last election, because if we stay on this current trajectory, we are going to get our collective butts handed to us in the midterms.

00:04:26.120 And we may never come back from that, because President Trump, just like in 2015, 2016, he had a window.

00:04:35.420 And for all intents and purposes, I think what he accomplished in his first term, considering that the Republicans were against him, the Democrats were against him, the media was against him.

00:04:46.200 It's amazing.

00:04:47.780 Now, this time around, I would have hoped he would have picked some stronger players.

00:04:54.340 That's just my opinion.

00:04:55.620 You see, just like you, I, as a voter and an American citizen and someone that does research, we all have opinions.

00:05:05.900 I know the opinion we're supposed to have.

00:05:08.540 I watch the different news shows and I read the different trash newspapers just to see if I'm missing anything in my show prep or pile of preparation.

00:05:17.940 But the reality is, to be a critical thinker, you're going to have to listen to different people, because we will not get out of this if we let the Republicans pull us into it.

00:05:32.360 And if you recall, it was the Republicans that put us over the line, right, for Obamacare.

00:05:39.800 It was the Republicans in Pennsylvania that put us over the line for mail-in ballots.

00:05:46.220 It was the Republicans that, in numerous states, wanted background checks.

00:05:52.260 And most recently, it was a Republican that said, maybe we ought to register guns.

00:05:57.540 So while we're all doing the victory dance, which should have ended 11 months ago, because it was a great victory, it was an exciting time, we need to wake up.

00:06:11.880 Because we have a Muslim commie in New York City. 0.93

00:06:14.780 And look at the moron that got elected in Virginia after he threatened to kill people.

00:06:22.460 You know what this tells you, or at least it tells me.

00:06:26.460 It tells me that the voters are so fed up that they're willing to switch to anything.

00:06:38.320 That's not where you want to be as a political party.

00:06:43.400 The Republicans and the Democrats have a problem.

00:06:46.540 We're going to talk about that in a minute.

00:06:49.420 The biggest problem they have is with young voters.

00:06:54.440 And they're not taking it seriously.

00:06:58.700 The Republicans do what they always do.

00:07:00.640 They still bring in some 400-year-old consultants and some people that used to work on the campaign for so-and-so.

00:07:08.100 Those people should not be near Trump.

00:07:11.600 Because they're rhinos, they're sellouts, and they're what most politicians are, opportunistic people that get into politics because that is the fast track to wealth if you can't make it in the private sector.

00:07:23.100 The number is 800-848-9222.

00:07:29.640 So, it's been a year.

00:07:31.600 How do you think Trump's doing?

00:07:33.360 Why don't we give him a grade tonight?

00:07:35.500 Now, I know some people, if you're on the Trump worship team, you know how churches have worship teams?

00:07:42.520 You know?

00:07:42.780 And there's like a Trump worship team.

00:07:46.020 And I get a dose of this because, like I said, I do a podcast every day.

00:07:51.240 And because I don't have any local, national, or foreign sponsors, I can pretty much say whatever I want on that podcast.

00:08:00.920 So, people are always shocked when we give Trump a good grade for this or a bad grade for that.

00:08:06.280 They go, what are you doing?

00:08:07.580 You can't talk about Trump that way.

00:08:10.280 I'm like, why?

00:08:11.180 I'm the boss.

00:08:13.240 You're the boss.

00:08:14.380 There's 350 million of us.

00:08:16.520 The minute you and I get up, if we got up tomorrow morning, every American in this country, and said, you know what?

00:08:24.260 Let's not pay taxes for the next two months.

00:08:27.160 We would change the face of the world.

00:08:30.640 You realize that, right?

00:08:32.400 You realize that this illusion of power is because we have allowed them to take it from us.

00:08:39.480 So, let's give Trump a grade.

00:08:42.600 I mean, we need to have a MAGA update.

00:08:45.240 And I thought tonight would be the perfect time.

00:08:47.520 I was looking at some of the numbers.

00:08:50.320 And again, I don't want to dwell on the New York mayor's race, but it's such a good example because nothing unfolded the way it could have or should have.

00:08:58.660 And you really saw how politics works.

00:09:03.540 You had 63% of the Jewish population in New York City vote for Cuomo.

00:09:09.680 33% of the Jewish population vote for the Islamist communist.

00:09:16.940 33% of the Jewish population voted for Mom Donnie.

00:09:24.320 I know you heard that.

00:09:26.180 Okay, good.

00:09:26.880 Because the largest Jewish population on earth after Israel is New York City.

00:09:36.300 And I have to ask myself, how in the heck, what was going on, who did what and why, that a third of the Jewish population of New York would elect a communist, an Islamist, and an independently wealthy trust fund baby, 0.76

00:10:02.520 whose mom, from what I understand, pays his rent.

00:10:07.540 And yet, it happened.

00:10:10.160 So, I don't mind diving deep into some of these topics, but I'm getting tired of some of the analysis by some of the old school crusty people that are in some of these newspapers and on some of these network television shows.

00:10:28.680 And they're missing, to me, one of the biggest characteristics of this race, the fact that a third of the Jewish population voted for Mom Donnie. 0.89

00:10:39.260 That is really amazing.

00:10:40.960 Now, you have to go a little deeper into that.

00:10:43.360 You've got to say, wait a minute, there's something wrong here.

00:10:45.540 I mean, that just doesn't happen.

00:10:48.360 Well, it did, and it does.

00:10:49.920 75% of voters under 30 voted for Mom Donnie in New York.

00:10:59.600 Again, 75% of voters under 30 voted for an Islamist, communist, independently wealthy.

00:11:11.960 Yeah.

00:11:12.840 Think about that.

00:11:14.520 That's like stuff that happens in the Middle East.

00:11:17.780 Think about that.

00:11:19.920 75% of the young voters, 33% of the Jewish voters.

00:11:24.360 See, that's the story.

00:11:26.640 And that's happening all over the country.

00:11:29.380 It happened in Virginia.

00:11:31.340 It happened in New Jersey.

00:11:33.920 It's happening all over the country.

00:11:36.200 Because MAGA is losing young people.

00:11:40.900 They had young people last year.

00:11:43.960 They were on fire with young people. 1.00

00:11:46.940 MAGA was real and in the young people.

00:11:49.580 I know so many young people that were fans of Trump, including both my sons in their 20s.

00:11:55.780 And then what happens is we, the people, the voters, the supporters, we start evaluating you.

00:12:07.440 And we start paying attention to things like, why are you making fun of us when we have serious issues?

00:12:17.120 Cash Patel is a great example.

00:12:18.560 And a note to Cash Patel.

00:12:20.800 Don't talk about your girlfriend anymore online.

00:12:22.860 You sound like you're 16 years old.

00:12:25.680 Don't do that.

00:12:26.920 It makes you look small, Cash.

00:12:28.960 It does.

00:12:29.980 I get you got a tough job.

00:12:31.300 You're the head of the FBI.

00:12:32.380 I know what I'm supposed to say, but I didn't get the conservative TV media scripts.

00:12:36.920 And I'm just telling you, as a guy over 60, I see you whining about your girlfriend on Twitter.

00:12:43.180 And I think, what is this guy, 19 years old?

00:12:46.040 Is he having a meltdown over his young girlfriend in public?

00:12:51.580 That's not a good look for an FBI director.

00:12:54.760 So what do you guys think?

00:12:56.260 We have a lot more to talk about, by the way.

00:12:58.500 800-848-9222.

00:13:00.920 800-848-9222.

00:13:02.800 I'm Ken Matthews in the Stone Zone.

00:13:05.520 Let's get a grade for Donald Trump's presidency so far.

00:13:10.000 We'll be right back.

00:13:11.280 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

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00:14:03.440 The Stone Zone.

00:14:05.380 Entertaining and informative.

00:14:07.440 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:14:09.340 So the number is 800-848-9222.

00:14:13.060 My name is Ken Matthews, and always a pleasure to be on the Red Apple Audio Network's guest hosting for Where They Need Me from Time to Time.

00:14:21.360 And Roger Stone tonight, the Stone Zone.

00:14:23.960 It's great to be here.

00:14:25.200 We're taking your grades.

00:14:27.540 You're the teacher.

00:14:28.340 You're the grade.

00:14:30.200 You grade Donald Trump so far.

00:14:32.600 We've gotten a few grades so far.

00:14:34.960 We got a B plus.

00:14:36.160 We got a C minus.

00:14:37.040 And believe it or not, we got a D plus.

00:14:41.780 And before we go into some of that, let's take a step back and understand what happened last week.

00:14:48.660 That was quite a beating.

00:14:51.820 And in that election, keep in mind what's happening in California.

00:14:59.160 It's an everyday battle.

00:15:01.820 Every time Trump pushes what I believe are the right policies, California rears up and pushes back.

00:15:11.580 It's back and forth and back and forth.

00:15:13.900 And meanwhile, okay, we're still in Ukraine.

00:15:17.320 And I think one of the most under-discussed things is how the MAGA people and how the young people feel about the Trump administration's involvement in Israel and Gaza.

00:15:32.980 So as long as we keep ignoring Ukraine, which we should have been out of, we shouldn't have even been in there in 2014, but we should have been out of Ukraine. 0.86

00:15:43.560 We should not have the investment or boots on the ground, which we do now in Israel.

00:15:51.200 We should not be off the coast of Venezuela.

00:15:56.120 I get the whole drug thing.

00:15:58.260 That was great.

00:15:59.600 How did we go from that?

00:16:01.680 How did we go from, if you try to bring our drugs into the country, we'll blow you out of the water?

00:16:07.480 Yes, I am with you, Mr. President.

00:16:11.840 Close those borders.

00:16:13.120 Start deporting people every day, all day.

00:16:17.400 I want illegal foreign nationals out of our country. 1.00

00:16:22.100 If someone tries to bring in fentanyl, boom.

00:16:26.400 Who's one of the biggest offenders in fentanyl?

00:16:30.140 Well, China, of course.

00:16:32.220 And President Trump just was working on a deal with China.

00:16:36.380 And something that just happened with China was they agreed, at least this is what some of the media says, that they agreed to crack down on fentanyl.

00:16:44.400 And you do know that China runs the whole global fentanyl thing.

00:16:50.800 Whether stuff comes out of the Middle East or whether it comes out of Mexico, China's got its finger on it.

00:16:56.140 In fact, China was flying to Mexico and training the cooks in Mexico for the cartels. 0.63

00:17:05.220 So they can get fentanyl and they could expand their market because everybody on Earth knows, at least until a year ago, the easiest borders to cross was into America.

00:17:21.140 And that's the greatest market in the world.

00:17:23.380 It's the greatest legal market and it's the greatest illegal market.

00:17:27.740 Because just like human trafficking, our government is not doing enough to stop the demand.

00:17:36.120 So everybody knows if you can get your product, whether it's illegal or not or legal, America is still the greatest market.

00:17:47.800 There's no argument there.

00:17:49.700 But little by little, I'm not getting the America first vibe.

00:17:56.640 What about you?

00:17:58.400 What do you think?

00:17:59.480 Are we still America first or are we slipping a little bit?

00:18:02.600 And is President Trump compromising with some of the nitwits in his cabinet?

00:18:09.380 800-848-9222 in the Stone Zone.

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00:18:23.760 It is good to see you as always.

00:18:25.640 The number is 800-848-9222.

00:18:28.640 My name is Ken Matthews in for Roger Stone tonight in the Stone Zone.

00:18:31.240 Always a pleasure to be invited back on the Red Apple Audio Networks.

00:18:35.340 You can follow me all over social media, but my website is kenmatthewsmedia.com.

00:18:41.280 And if you go on Twitter or Facebook or any one of those things and you want to troll me or comment, if you don't get a chance to call in tonight, by all means do it.

00:18:50.460 We're taking grades on Donald Trump's administration.

00:18:54.200 Not so much Trump, but the whole thing, you know.

00:18:57.760 I've been frustrated by Bondi and Cash Patel.

00:19:01.220 And, you know, it's interesting because as I observe Dan Bongino, I think he is really trapped on what to do.

00:19:10.740 That's just me observing him as an older man.

00:19:14.360 Looking at him, I'm thinking, there's a guy who bounced into this job like, we are gonna kick some butt!

00:19:23.100 Yeah!

00:19:24.780 And then someone took him aside and said, okay, don't do that.

00:19:31.740 Don't do that.

00:19:32.560 Don't investigate that.

00:19:33.580 Don't do that.

00:19:34.240 We're not gonna do that.

00:19:35.160 We're gonna pardon them.

00:19:37.120 And he's gotta be livid.

00:19:39.700 But because he comes from a background of law enforcement and he's a patriot,

00:19:44.440 he's gotta be frustrated about, you know, whose orders do I follow?

00:19:51.020 And I will say one of the things, there's several things that I think are turning off different demographics,

00:19:57.940 each age group, just like with the Democrats.

00:20:01.400 And I think right now the Democrats and the Republicans are suffering from young people on both sides that are fed up.

00:20:09.740 And it's because everybody is, and it's not just an age thing, but part of it is, okay?

00:20:17.100 We're tired of seeing people in for 20, 30 years.

00:20:20.080 It just, it's ridiculous now, okay?

00:20:22.640 And then every time someone who's young and goes against the grain tries to get into the fold,

00:20:28.660 whether it's Democrat or Republican, everybody pulls together and crushes them.

00:20:34.160 It's kind of like how Republicans and Democrats are pulling together to make sure that America never finds out all the truth about Epstein.

00:20:45.900 Now, the people in Washington, the people at these large media outlets and independently wealthy people in media,

00:20:55.680 of which there are plenty, they probably don't care about that.

00:20:58.940 But I can tell you, as someone who's just a middle-class dude who's lived around the country a little bit

00:21:05.280 and actually still shops at Kmart, and sometimes I actually enjoy it, I'll admit it.

00:21:12.060 Yes, the other day I needed something, and I got it there.

00:21:16.680 Yeah.

00:21:17.840 So now I ticked off some more people about the Walmart thing.

00:21:21.840 Did I say Kmart?

00:21:22.680 I said, I don't know if I say Walmart or Kmart sometimes because I used to work at Kmart.

00:21:26.520 Do you guys remember Kmart?

00:21:27.880 Remember Kmart?

00:21:28.940 Before Walmart devoured it?

00:21:31.940 Oh, I used to love it because my first name is Ken.

00:21:35.120 I thought, look, look, Mom, Kmart.

00:21:37.880 Yeah.

00:21:39.200 Anyway, the number is 800-848-9222.

00:21:43.820 So people are frustrated about that, really frustrated about Ukraine.

00:21:48.080 A lot of us believe that the Trump administration kind of flipped on Ukraine.

00:21:52.120 We work around the clock.

00:21:53.780 It looks like the media and neocons and conservatives work around the clock to get me afraid of Putin every day.

00:22:01.420 And if I question that, if I question it as an adult who's been around long enough to read more history books than probably most dingbats in the newsrooms have.

00:22:13.000 When I question it and say, do we really need to be worried this much about Putin right now?

00:22:19.120 Aren't you more concerned about this or this or this?

00:22:21.320 Then they say, what are you, a communist?

00:22:24.860 Are you a Putin fan?

00:22:27.740 No, I'm not a Putin fan.

00:22:30.080 I'm a voter.

00:22:31.460 And without my money, you'd have nothing.

00:22:35.160 Nothing.

00:22:36.440 If the voters of the United States stopped paying taxes, there would be no foreign diplomacy.

00:22:44.000 There would be no jobs in government.

00:22:47.020 It would cease.

00:22:48.500 And I do want to point out that during the shutdown, which hasn't officially ended yet because it still has to go through another process.

00:22:55.480 I think it was was it earlier yesterday or earlier today?

00:22:59.520 And then it then things will start opening up slowly.

00:23:02.260 But surely it was senators and congressmen that could still get paid.

00:23:08.620 Now, some did not.

00:23:09.740 You should find out if yours did or did not.

00:23:12.160 Now, some of my the people that I supported, I called them up and asked them point blank.

00:23:16.820 They know they know I'm a pain in the butt.

00:23:19.720 They know it.

00:23:20.820 They know when they see my number on the caller ID, I'm not going to call up and say, hey, you're doing a great job.

00:23:26.780 Keep it up.

00:23:29.300 And I called several of them and said, please tell me you're not getting a paycheck now.

00:23:33.760 Please tell me you are not getting a paycheck when air traffic controllers have to wait.

00:23:40.840 And and they weren't.

00:23:42.340 You could you could actually sign a waiver or the slip of paper during a shutdown and say, hold my pay until everybody else gets paid.

00:23:51.500 So there's a fun thing tomorrow.

00:23:53.480 Call up and see if your congressman or your senator continue to get their fat salary on top of their portfolio.

00:23:59.800 Like the one Nancy Pelosi has.

00:24:02.360 What did she make?

00:24:04.100 Was it sixteen hundred or a hundred?

00:24:07.300 And I think it was sixteen hundred percent growth or something.

00:24:10.060 It was good stuff.

00:24:11.560 It was good stuff.

00:24:12.740 I mean, she's walking out of there almost a quarter trillionaire. 1.00

00:24:16.640 You know, I mean, Nancy Pelosi was incredible.

00:24:19.600 Incredible woman.

00:24:20.680 She's so incredible.

00:24:22.040 She's absolutely incredible.

00:24:23.280 So something else Trump just did today, and I want to get your thoughts on it.

00:24:27.420 He is defending his plan.

00:24:29.060 He talked with Laura Ingraham the other night on Fox.

00:24:33.320 He talked about offering six hundred thousand Chinese students visas.

00:24:38.300 And my first response was, how is that America first?

00:24:42.240 And that was Laura's first response, which was a great question.

00:24:47.700 How is that American first? 0.96

00:24:48.920 And then Trump kind of bent it all weird and said, well, you know, that's that's how we support the universities.

00:24:58.020 I mean, if we don't have all these foreign students coming in, you know, some of these universities are going to go out of business.

00:25:04.520 So.

00:25:06.140 So what?

00:25:08.240 Why don't we put American students first? 0.98

00:25:10.440 Now, see, that puts you into that uncomfortable position where you have to say, well, where are we going to find Americans as smart as the Chinese? 1.00

00:25:19.900 See, I don't necessarily agree with that.

00:25:22.060 I think that you can train a lot of people up to do a lot of great things.

00:25:28.340 Certain people like to train certain people more than other people.

00:25:31.980 But what if we took the foreign national student population from this point on and just kind of froze it for a minute until we got the American student population caught up?

00:25:46.180 I'm just throwing it out there.

00:25:47.500 That does not seem America first to me.

00:25:50.780 I thought Trump would have said no more student visas from the following countries until and then put a date on it, just like there should be no more immigration into this country, period, until we balance our budget.

00:26:08.980 If we balance our budget, we get out of debt.

00:26:11.500 Welcome aboard.

00:26:12.180 Come on in.

00:26:13.380 Think about it.

00:26:14.420 Would you behave like this in a private business?

00:26:16.880 If you were $38 trillion in debt and people said, keep the doors open.

00:26:21.580 Well, we need to close the doors.

00:26:22.960 People are coming in.

00:26:24.220 They're taking stuff.

00:26:25.140 They're breaking stuff.

00:26:26.300 We don't have the right training.

00:26:27.740 What do we do?

00:26:29.220 Well, leave the doors open, though.

00:26:30.940 No.

00:26:32.420 Shut all the doors.

00:26:34.080 Shut it all down.

00:26:35.640 Tell the world, hey, we're making America great again.

00:26:39.040 We're America first.

00:26:40.800 We're putting the American people first, the American budget first. 0.69

00:26:44.380 Everything is going to be first, and I haven't seen much of that in the last 11 months.

00:26:53.260 Have you?

00:26:54.240 Let's go to Vince.

00:26:56.220 Vince, you're on the Roger Stone Show.

00:26:59.400 Welcome.

00:27:00.680 Oh, we just have Susan.

00:27:01.840 Susan, welcome.

00:27:04.420 Oh, yes.

00:27:05.200 Hi.

00:27:05.960 How you doing?

00:27:06.720 Well, I'm doing great, and you're bringing up a lot of great things that we have to keep on top of.

00:27:14.360 of, like, the Chinese students and many things, but I think that I look at it in the big picture, for instance, that we've had our first surplus.

00:27:31.360 September 2025, we had $198 billion surplus.

00:27:37.460 Where did that come from?

00:27:41.320 Well, the economy grew at almost 4%, which hasn't been done.

00:27:47.920 I don't know if it didn't.

00:27:49.560 Yeah, but unfortunately, it didn't grow for the middle class.

00:27:54.360 I mean, a candy bar costs $4 now.

00:27:57.400 I mean, it didn't grow for the middle class.

00:27:59.280 A bottle of grape juice, milk, eggs, plywood, tires, everything's up.

00:28:06.400 So, yeah, I think that, I do believe that smart investors grew their wealth because Trump is a brilliant businessman.

00:28:14.360 But I'm trying to figure out, well, let me give you an example.

00:28:18.100 Remember he was going to give us Doge checks?

00:28:21.120 Remember back when Elon was in there and he said, everybody's going to get a check from Doge.

00:28:25.380 We're saving so much money, right?

00:28:29.300 But now he's saying it's from the tariffs that we're going to get, you know, a rebate.

00:28:34.560 Yeah, he said it's going to be.

00:28:35.920 He said it's going to be $2,000 from the tariffs.

00:28:38.380 But bad news, he's about $40 billion off on that.

00:28:42.420 But I did the math on it.

00:28:44.420 He also started changing it from, we're going to get a check to a dividend.

00:28:48.600 So, a dividend, what is that going to be?

00:28:50.680 Is that going to be like a gift card to the bookstore or what?

00:28:55.000 So, this is what I was talking about.

00:28:57.240 If he would have come in, if they would have cleaned, like got all that Doge money and said right off the bat,

00:29:03.100 every small businessman with a family of four is going to get this or every, but that's not happening.

00:29:10.280 And that's why I think he's losing the momentum that he had at the beginning.

00:29:15.660 What do you think?

00:29:17.080 Well, wait until the tax cuts come in, the tax cuts and the refunds that people are going to get in the beginning of the year from the big, beautiful bill.

00:29:26.840 You know, we have to just like, he walked into the decimation that's been going on between, you know, Obama and Biden and all the corruption.

00:29:39.160 I do hear you, I do hear you on that.

00:29:41.800 Yeah, he walked, I'm a thousand, and I have to move on to another call, but I want to thank you for calling.

00:29:46.900 But what you just said at the end, I agree with you a thousand percent.

00:29:50.580 I mean, Donald Trump walked into some of the biggest dumpster fires in the history of this country, and he did it as a non-politician.

00:29:58.720 And that's why I still support him.

00:30:00.740 That's why I supported him in 2015, way before anybody else that you hear talking about him now supporting him.

00:30:07.340 I can almost guarantee it.

00:30:09.240 I was on the radio in 2015 endorsing Trump, and people thought I was crazy.

00:30:15.460 I remember getting in a debate saying Trump could beat Ted Cruz into the ground in a race, and people thought I was a lunatic.

00:30:23.420 I said the Bushes will never win a race again.

00:30:26.360 People thought I was a lunatic.

00:30:27.740 So I get that part.

00:30:31.420 They wanted to see an outsider come in with a brain who knows how to use a calculator. 0.93

00:30:36.360 And in the case of Trump, he knows how to use construction equipment.

00:30:39.540 He knows how to build things.

00:30:40.940 He knows how to negotiate.

00:30:42.640 All those things are great.

00:30:44.100 But I'm telling you from someone who's on the street a lot, I don't talk to pollsters.

00:30:50.140 I don't respect most pollsters.

00:30:51.960 I think they prostitute themselves out.

00:30:54.220 And just like any other surveys, they're designed to get you to buy a car or vote a certain way or eat a certain cereal or buy a certain beer.

00:31:02.120 But I just ask people, and people are saying, when are we going to get the truth about Epstein?

00:31:08.280 When are we going to get out of foreign wars all together? 0.74

00:31:16.020 Why are we in Ukraine?

00:31:17.880 Why are we in Gaza?

00:31:19.500 These are questions that people ask me and that we try to figure out.

00:31:23.600 And the big one, if you really want to know the big one, among young Republicans, some of the smartest young Republicans I have ever met were in TPUSA.

00:31:36.640 I never spoke at their event, but I shared a stage with a couple of them years ago, and they were much more successful than I.

00:31:47.120 They are wondering why the Charlie Kirk cover-up.

00:31:52.500 Why is it that the fact that there are young people out there, not only on and offline, but in general, questioning Charlie Kirk's assassination

00:32:01.680 and the best that Kash Patel could do or the best that our administration can do is say, you guys need to shut up and concentrate on something else.

00:32:12.340 Well, you know, you've been saying to us, shut up and concentrate on something else since they blew Kennedy's head off in the car.

00:32:20.340 Remember that?

00:32:21.360 You're still saying shut up on that one.

00:32:23.940 See, this is the problem.

00:32:25.120 Now, it's too late for the baby boomers, right? 1.00

00:32:28.700 It's really too late for us.

00:32:30.560 The people that are going to change the party, the people that are going to change the direction of this country are the same age as the men. 0.54

00:32:38.420 Everybody talks about the founding fathers.

00:32:40.940 Yeah, they were brilliant.

00:32:42.280 And a lot of them were 30, 40, 50 years old or younger.

00:32:46.940 Some of those men fought in the Revolutionary War.

00:32:49.700 They were in their 20s and they were commanding off.

00:32:53.800 They were commanding platoons and squads or whatever the heck they called them back then.

00:32:57.920 So the days of we got it, we got to get all these 70s and 80s and 60 somethings together.

00:33:04.300 Except me.

00:33:04.980 I'm over 60.

00:33:05.620 I want you to listen to me.

00:33:07.620 That's a little joke there.

00:33:09.720 Instead of depending on, well, what do all the old people say? 0.99

00:33:14.280 When I say old, I'm not talking about the age so much.

00:33:16.440 I'm talking about I am so sick of hearing from Frank Luntz and Karl Rove.

00:33:22.500 Seriously.

00:33:23.660 Seriously.

00:33:24.820 Karl Rove said twice.

00:33:27.340 He said in 2016, Trump would never win.

00:33:30.300 And then he said in 2020, Biden won and it was a secure election.

00:33:34.940 So I can't listen to that.

00:33:37.680 I can't listen to that because I disagree with it a thousand percent.

00:33:41.200 So we need to look at the young people and we need to say, what do you guys think is important?

00:33:48.760 Do you guys think you should get a $2,000 rebate back off the tariffs?

00:33:53.140 Do you guys think you should get help with your small business?

00:33:56.600 Do you think no more foreign nationals should get a penny for anything until we get this 37, 38 trillion dollars under control? 0.99

00:34:07.820 See, I do.

00:34:09.660 I do.

00:34:10.520 And what we're getting out of the Republican Party now, it sounds like rhino Mitt Romney Chris Christie talking points, which kind of get me sick to my stomach.

00:34:18.880 But anyway, I'm in for Roger Stone tonight.

00:34:21.460 My name's Ken Matthews and the number is 800-848-9222.

00:34:25.300 We'll be right back.

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00:36:06.120 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:36:19.940 Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.

00:36:23.840 Roger Stone was persecuted.

00:36:25.080 People forget he's actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.

00:36:27.960 Now, get in the zone. 0.94

00:36:29.980 It's the Stone Zone.

00:36:32.020 Here's Roger Stone.

00:36:33.540 The number is 800-848-9222.

00:36:37.560 So we have to examine that.

00:36:39.380 I'm glad that I think it was Judy that called.

00:36:41.900 I can't remember her name that we were talking, and she brought up some interesting points.

00:36:45.980 And what happens is we get happy, we get excited, and then there's people around Trump that take advantage of it.

00:36:54.680 And that's something that's always bothered me.

00:36:56.200 And I don't know if you're like this, but don't you get kind of – I know it's almost childish when you see something or you supported something long before anybody else did.

00:37:10.380 I know it's silly.

00:37:11.260 It's petty.

00:37:11.700 I get it.

00:37:12.300 I get it.

00:37:12.840 But, you know, being one of the first people on the Trump train and meeting Trump then, and I remember they said Pennsylvania was never going to – they'd never vote.

00:37:25.040 It would never go red.

00:37:26.160 And seeing all that happen in 2016, it was a very exciting time.

00:37:30.060 And what happened in 2016 was it wasn't just the Republican thing.

00:37:35.460 It was shaking up the entire system.

00:37:38.760 And you had a lot of debate.

00:37:41.040 And that's where, God bless them, the late Charlie Kirk came in and Turning Point and young people like Candace and others.

00:37:48.140 You had such dialogue among young people.

00:37:50.900 There was a synergy on campus.

00:37:52.960 And, sure, there were a lot of radicals, and they were protesting, and they were disagreeing.

00:37:57.060 But there were a lot of conservatives that were debating and successfully winning.

00:38:02.800 It was a very exciting time historically and politically.

00:38:08.200 And I think what happened is during COVID and during Corn Pops reign, Joe Biden, who is another – see, this is another thing that I think especially rhino Republicans or lifetime Republicans don't really take seriously.

00:38:24.980 And that's how much those of us that supported Trump wanted to see the Bidens brought to justice, the fact that Hunter walked and James walked and Frank walked and Joe walked and Carol started to get investigated and then she didn't.

00:38:42.740 And, you know, we see this stuff and we start saying, wait a minute, are these folks no different than anybody else?

00:38:50.280 They're just going to throw us one or two bones, which are great.

00:38:53.680 I mean, there are some good things about the economy.

00:38:57.400 But at the end of the day, if you want to be American first, you don't hand out work visas or student visas like candy.

00:39:08.560 You don't do it.

00:39:10.580 I think you should have shut down the border.

00:39:12.680 They shut down the border three or four times in the history of this country.

00:39:17.140 They shut the border down completely.

00:39:21.280 They didn't let anybody in until there was more assimilation and economic stability.

00:39:29.440 So, I'm sure there's someone in this audience that knows President Trump.

00:39:33.560 Call him up.

00:39:35.940 Have him call me.

00:39:37.400 Call me on my cell.

00:39:39.480 800-848-9222.

00:39:41.980 Thanks again to Roger for letting me fill in tonight in the Stone Zone.

00:39:45.420 And have a wonderful Friday.

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