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00:01:00.540 The Stone Zone. Entertaining and informative.

00:01:04.560 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:01:07.840 It's good to be back with you, this great Roger Stone, Stone Zone audience.

00:01:13.940 My name is Ken Matthews, and the number is 800-848-9222.

00:01:18.340 Was called back to guest host for Mr. Stone tonight.

00:01:21.620 Always my pleasure to be on the Red Apple Audio Networks.

00:01:25.900 What a day. What a day.

00:01:28.580 Fingers are still crossed regarding Epstein.

00:01:32.360 We talked about this briefly at the end of the show last night.

00:01:36.760 You know, I am more of a skeptic than a cynic.

00:01:40.660 I think a cynic sounds kind of bitter.

00:01:43.240 A skeptic sounds like you're contemplating.

00:01:46.660 You know, just based on the Webster's Dictionary thing.

00:01:50.160 I like to be skeptical.

00:01:51.760 I don't like to be cynical because, you know, as a Christian, someone who prays often, I'm not that cynical, really.

00:02:00.800 I'm not that, I mean, I get upset sometimes, but I don't get that angry.

00:02:06.460 Because at the end of the day, I think things will work out, just not with our government.

00:02:14.020 You probably were wondering, where's he going with this?

00:02:17.140 Holy moly, is he not going to rip our government a new one tonight?

00:02:20.880 No, I'm just getting started.

00:02:23.200 But, you know, the exciting thing, the exciting thing about the Epstein vote was,

00:02:31.160 and this is what nobody's really focusing on, especially in the media, mainstream media.

00:02:37.860 And here's the exciting thing.

00:02:39.380 Keep in mind, Trump pushed against this for months and months and months.

00:02:45.900 And anybody that pushed back on President Trump, even if it was respectfully, was viciously attacked.

00:02:54.160 Thomas Massey was attacked, MTG, Tucker, Lauren Boebert, Nancy Mace.

00:03:01.560 Kash Patel was making light of people concerned about the Epstein files.

00:03:06.920 Even President Trump, again, to this day, I think this is one of the biggest mistakes he made with MAGA.

00:03:15.500 And MAGA brought him to the dance.

00:03:19.540 And we're going to talk a little bit about this tonight.

00:03:23.100 As an original MAGA member, a MAGA OG and an American Firster,

00:03:30.520 I don't play these GOP, Karl Rove kind of Frank Luntz, Fox News kind of games.

00:03:37.700 I don't play those games.

00:03:38.960 I don't get up and say, what should I be saying today?

00:03:42.460 Who should I be attacking?

00:03:44.440 You see, if you attack people on command, I have trouble with your loyalty.

00:03:49.320 So I always pay attention to this.

00:03:52.600 Who are people attacking?

00:03:55.120 That's how I look at politics in general.

00:04:00.020 Not who's the most famous, who's the wealthiest, which selfie that I have looks the best, okay?

00:04:09.080 I look at who attacks who when the people's wishes are at play.

00:04:19.320 And to me, the Epstein situation was very revealing because I've been on to the Epstein thing since it first happened.

00:04:30.240 And I've connected like many people have.

00:04:33.420 I have not wrote a book.

00:04:35.240 I have not written a book, but I've read a lot of the books on it.

00:04:39.040 I think Whitney Webb's is one of the best set.

00:04:42.360 She's got a two-book set.

00:04:44.680 Each book's about two and a half inches thick.

00:04:48.280 So you folks that rely on 15-minute TikTok updates, it may be a little overwhelming for you.

00:04:54.780 But she pretty much lays it out.

00:04:56.600 So most of us in MAGA, most of the American firsters, and most people with critical thinking skills know what the whole Epstein thing was about, is about, and will continue to be about.

00:05:11.160 And it's about a network that works with intelligence communities to leverage people in power, in particular governments, in particular America's government, and exploit and extort these people to do their will.

00:05:32.080 Have you ever been watching a vote?

00:05:34.000 Have you ever been watching C-SPAN?

00:05:35.480 And I'm a geek, so when you're watching an NFL game, chances are that same Sunday afternoon, I'm watching C-SPAN.

00:05:43.380 My wife is yelling up to me, what are you doing? 1.00

00:05:45.720 I'm just prepping for the show.

00:05:47.040 I just want to get this soundbite.

00:05:49.400 And I see a Republican in particular, because that's the party I belong to for the longest time. 0.99

00:05:57.060 And I see a Republican make just a complete idiotic vote, totally against conservatism, totally against America First, totally against Make America Great Again. 0.98

00:06:07.840 As long as we're talking about the MAGA team, just remember it was the Tea Party people that brought Trump to the party as well. 0.99

00:06:21.700 The remnants of the Tea Party, the remnants of the 9-12 Tea Party, we started up during Obama.

00:06:31.800 It wasn't the GOP, just like it's not the DNC, right?

00:06:38.980 And this is the mistake.

00:06:40.420 This is the crossroads we are at, and this is what I'm hearing.

00:06:44.040 I'm hearing this in the news media.

00:06:45.480 I'm hearing it from consultants.

00:06:49.000 I'm hearing it from podcasters.

00:06:52.180 There were a whole bunch of podcasters that, you know, they were all about being awake.

00:06:58.800 You know, they were awake.

00:07:02.040 They were red-pilled.

00:07:03.780 They were MAGA.

00:07:05.340 They were telling the truth.

00:07:07.440 And then when the party and when the consultants and when Trump said, okay, let's take it easy on Epstein, they all fell in line.

00:07:15.480 We should have never taken it easy on Epstein.

00:07:18.220 So please don't buy into the, oh, thank God President Trump is releasing the Epstein files.

00:07:25.700 He and a lot of Republicans have fought this for a long time.

00:07:30.420 What I'm paying attention to is people like Thomas Massey and the fact that Thomas Massey, and in a minute I'll share another, I think Tim Burchett, Burchett, rather, working with Democrats to do what you and I have asked the Republicans to do.

00:07:49.540 And what they do is, is they attack us or they attack that person like Thomas Massey or Rand Paul or MTG.

00:08:02.060 They call her a traitor or they say she's failing Trump.

00:08:07.700 Well, first of all, we're not in the business to work for Trump.

00:08:13.600 I don't work for Trump.

00:08:15.180 I elected Trump.

00:08:16.920 I like Trump.

00:08:18.200 I still support the man.

00:08:19.580 But the dynamic between President Trump and me is I'm one of 350 million people that you swore, well, you know what your commitment is.

00:08:32.140 I didn't swear to protect and defend Donald Trump or his Constitution, nor did I do that with Biden.

00:08:44.040 And I see we're at this exciting time right now in this country.

00:08:49.260 It's so exciting.

00:08:50.020 Like today, what I take away from, first of all, I do believe they're going to release the Epstein things, but they're going to be redacted because I pointed this out to you yesterday.

00:09:02.240 There's two little things in there that say if it negatively impacts a current investigation, so there's about seven of them right now, coincidentally all popping up in the last 10 days to use as an umbrella cover.

00:09:16.820 So they can redact, redact, redact, redact, then there's going to be a national security angle as well.

00:09:23.940 You know, you have to ask yourself, what's with the big national security angle?

00:09:27.800 I thought you said it didn't involve other countries and intelligence agencies.

00:09:33.600 See, I don't think they can keep their story straight.

00:09:36.620 I think sometimes that happens.

00:09:39.020 So I do see this as a very big win.

00:09:41.780 But I think the question is this, are you, are we, is your neighbor, is your congressperson, are they America first or are they GOP first, donor first, consultant first, Israel first?

00:10:00.100 What first are they?

00:10:01.780 And that, this is the crossroads we're at, if you're wondering.

00:10:08.440 That's where we're at.

00:10:09.480 That's where the, that's where the Republican Party is at.

00:10:13.280 That's why the midterms are up in the air.

00:10:17.140 And you could keep pumping the, you know, you can keep pumping talking points.

00:10:21.440 You know, you can keep Fox News in me all day.

00:10:25.480 But the reality is, we, we being the people of the United States, both Democrats and Republicans, and I know this for a fact because I talk to a lot of people that don't agree with me on everything.

00:10:39.780 And that's something the media doesn't do much.

00:10:42.160 But you look at Democrats and Republicans, the majority of us, how we feel about Epstein, how we feel about sending money to Ukraine.

00:10:52.120 I have an update on Zelensky in a minute.

00:10:54.080 How we feel about sending money to Israel.

00:10:57.040 How we feel about people trading in the stock market like Nancy Pelosi or Mitt Romney while they're in office.

00:11:05.020 And we all agree on that.

00:11:06.880 But this is why it's a divide, this is a decisive moment.

00:11:13.500 Who's to say we couldn't pull progressives over to America first and get rid of the rhinos? 0.99

00:11:21.420 You know, we always hear that.

00:11:22.840 That's been the, the, the call for years with conservatives, hasn't it? 1.00

00:11:26.440 These darn rhinos, Lindsey Graham cracker. 0.99

00:11:30.200 We need to, we need to take over the party. 1.00

00:11:33.560 And this was a big win.

00:11:35.240 And Trump's trying to put a nice coat of paint on it.

00:11:38.640 It's all good.

00:11:39.740 I'm releasing it now.

00:11:41.680 Yeah.

00:11:42.040 Well, you're, like I said yesterday, you're close to a year late.

00:11:45.360 But one thing you did when President Trump threatened Massey and he, and he said, I'm not going to endorse MTG.

00:11:53.260 How dare you go against me on this?

00:11:56.060 Dun, dun, dun.

00:11:57.000 Uh, see, because of the internet, that's the positive part.

00:12:02.280 People are, we're hip to this game now.

00:12:04.720 We get it.

00:12:05.880 We get it.

00:12:06.860 Every time the Republicans don't want to do an American first thing or a MAGA thing.

00:12:14.040 Someone in the Trump administration says, all right, target those people.

00:12:20.020 Shut them down. 1.00

00:12:21.040 This is ridiculous. 0.94

00:12:22.400 I want a list. 0.94

00:12:23.520 I want a list.

00:12:24.240 I want people that are saying, don't send money here.

00:12:27.480 I want a list of people that are saying, release the Epstein files and see.

00:12:31.900 But here's the deal.

00:12:32.980 You're outnumbered.

00:12:34.320 This is the problem.

00:12:35.200 What you need in the midterms is voters and what we make America great again, people and

00:12:42.620 voters and everybody, moms from Liberty to free Pennsylvania, all these organizations

00:12:49.880 are separate from the GOP and they're separate from the consultants.

00:12:57.740 And this is where some of the panic is.

00:13:00.160 This is why the Republicans are doing a lot to censor people.

00:13:07.660 And this is why TikTok changed hands.

00:13:11.960 Because the panic is not, oh my gosh, the left.

00:13:16.360 No, the panic is the left and the right among the people, my neighbors, who I have enormous

00:13:26.120 respect for, even though I made fun of their Obama sign.

00:13:31.020 And even though I made fun of their Kamala sign, we still agree on more than we disagree

00:13:39.000 on.

00:13:39.680 See, the problem with the parties is you either get in lockstep or you're burned.

00:13:45.320 And that's what happens to every new congressman that goes, or woman, that goes to Washington, 1.00

00:13:52.840 D.C. as a freshman.

00:13:55.260 And they're sat down and they're told, here are the rules.

00:14:01.080 And they say, but what about my constituents?

00:14:03.700 I mean, I have both Republicans and Democrats and independents and they feel like, ah, ah,

00:14:08.060 ah, ah, ah, you're not going to get another dime from us.

00:14:12.720 This is the party speaking.

00:14:13.860 You won't get another dime.

00:14:16.200 We're not going to support you.

00:14:17.760 We're not going to help you.

00:14:19.140 In fact, we might even target you. 0.98

00:14:21.560 So shut up and sit down and vote just like McCarthy says, or Mike Johnson says, or let's 0.99

00:14:30.240 go in the way back machine. 0.98

00:14:31.940 John, I got a great tan Boehner.

00:14:34.000 John Boehner says, you're going to shut up and you're going to vote like him for the

00:14:37.260 first two years.

00:14:37.820 And if you're really good and if you help us maintain power and you help keep Mitch McConnell

00:14:44.160 in until he's older than a pterodactyl, then maybe you can get something done for your

00:14:50.080 people.

00:14:51.040 This is where the people need to wake up and say, we're done with it.

00:14:55.220 If we don't like the candidate, we're not voting.

00:14:57.660 I will never, ever in my life vote for the lesser of two evils. 0.65

00:15:03.420 If, if I go to my district and they're both turds, I'm not voting for a turd.

00:15:09.040 In fact, hold on a second.

00:15:10.460 Can we get a bumper?

00:15:11.140 I want to get a bumper sticker that says that don't vote for a turd.

00:15:15.520 Yes.

00:15:16.100 And also by electing a turd, I think it hurts the environment.

00:15:21.260 I'm Ken Matthews in for Roger Stone.

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00:16:16.620 My name is Ken Matthews.

00:16:17.800 We're talking about what many perceive as a powerful victory and a turning point.

00:16:24.760 Not to be confused with Turning Point USA,

00:16:26.880 which is another topic coming up if we have time today.

00:16:30.040 But MAGA carried the GOP to victory.

00:16:36.500 Just like President Trump when he won in 16 and 20 and 24.

00:16:43.000 Well, especially in 24.

00:16:45.500 But as much in 2016, there was a lot of down ticket victory that he carried.

00:16:53.100 So we got his momentum going.

00:16:55.620 He started everybody going.

00:16:58.840 America first.

00:17:00.300 Make America great again.

00:17:02.200 But don't ever forget.

00:17:04.380 We, the voters, carried.

00:17:06.960 We, the voters, are keeping the Republican Party going.

00:17:11.800 I know the donors think it's them.

00:17:15.020 This is going to tick a lot of people off because I don't have a lot of money.

00:17:19.180 And donors do.

00:17:20.760 But we so often forget, if we could just get more people like Timber Chet and Massey and MTG.

00:17:30.640 And I know people, like, they cringe over that.

00:17:33.080 And why are you cringing over that?

00:17:34.860 Because Fox and a whole bunch of other people, including our own party,

00:17:39.260 I'm speaking as a Republican now,

00:17:42.480 they told us, well, you better target this person and you better target that person. 0.99

00:17:47.160 And that person's a Nazi and that person's a commie and that person's, oh, shut up. 0.94

00:17:52.960 I'm just looking at what these men and women do for the people of their district 0.95

00:17:56.800 and what they do for me, my country, my family, my neighbors, period.

00:18:02.640 I don't look at anything else.

00:18:04.360 I don't look at their CPAC speeches.

00:18:06.900 I don't look at their podcast appearances.

00:18:09.780 Are they getting their butt out on the firing line, figuratively speaking,

00:18:14.660 and trying to drain the swamp?

00:18:16.800 Or are they just giving me lip service?

00:18:19.280 I think the lip service is starting to chap.

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00:19:58.180 Republicans are putting pressure on Mike Johnson to advance the Congressional Stock Trading Ban Bill.

00:20:02.860 This is right up there with the term limit bill.

00:20:08.140 It's fancy talk, and it's a great photo op, and it's been around for a long time.

00:20:13.980 But now we're starting to see some real fighters come forward, like Tim Burchett.

00:20:20.600 He's very similar to Massey working with Ro Khanna on the Epstein issue.

00:20:26.480 I'm saying this is a victory for us.

00:20:28.640 See, the minute we stop thinking Republican, Democrat, GOP, DNC, RNC, this, that, this, that, liberal, conservative, conservative, blah, blah, blah.

00:20:45.280 If we think we the people, 350 million of us, and the Constitution, you take the Constitution and we the people,

00:20:55.080 my neighbors, your neighbors, you, me, and the Constitution, not you, me, and CPAC, or you, me, and Mike Johnson's vacation house,

00:21:05.460 or you, me, and a trip with Epstein, or you, me, and the big donor money from whatever,

00:21:11.320 just find the people that are not owned, and I would say, what do you think the percentage is?

00:21:20.540 What are there, like 435 in the House and 100 in the Senate.

00:21:24.840 So what do you think?

00:21:26.540 Maybe 15% are not leveraged in some way.

00:21:30.880 I'm going to be, again, I'm going to be positive, because it's only Wednesday.

00:21:35.920 Let's say 20% are fighters.

00:21:39.560 See, Democrats and Republicans want to keep the true fighters apart.

00:21:44.220 It's the same way that the media wants to keep black going after white, and white going after black, 0.83

00:21:53.680 and Hispanic going after green and blue, and you're supposed to feel this way about China, 0.78

00:22:00.160 that way about the Ukraine.

00:22:03.220 Again, fall back, take a breath, and realize this theater of left and right and left and right.

00:22:14.220 This is what keeps most things from getting done.

00:22:19.400 They always say this.

00:22:20.920 They always say things like, if we can reach across the aisle,

00:22:24.100 if we can just do what our constituents ask,

00:22:27.500 and then when you do reach across the aisle and say,

00:22:31.540 hey, let's get these Epstein things released, what happens?

00:22:36.600 Then both parties bury you.

00:22:39.680 You see how it works?

00:22:40.680 It's the same way with the media.

00:22:44.220 If you're not promoting a talking point or the narrative from the day,

00:22:50.320 from whatever network that you're attached to, well, you're in trouble.

00:22:55.940 And until we shake that off, we don't have a chance on saving the republic.

00:23:02.100 We can blah, blah, blah all we want.

00:23:04.740 But until we stop people in government from using their intel to get rich,

00:23:11.340 until we expose the real issues behind Epstein,

00:23:16.520 which is an intelligence operation, a blackmail operation, and thousands of victims.

00:23:23.520 I mean, we're seeing the penny penny any stuff right now.

00:23:27.980 We're seeing the text to so-and-so took a donation and so-and-so went to a party and so-and-so had a selfie.

00:23:34.740 So what?

00:23:35.580 I want to know who was running the op that put the cameras in all the buildings and the yachts

00:23:43.200 and in the congressman's vacation home in the Hamptons, won't mention his name.

00:23:49.380 I want to know who puts cameras there and who shares that information.

00:23:54.760 You see?

00:23:55.380 And it's going to take people from both sides to do it.

00:23:58.940 This pretend world of, well, he's a Republican.

00:24:02.520 I'm not talking to him because he must be, what?

00:24:06.860 Whatever the media is assigned to you and me.

00:24:10.480 I'm a white male, pro-gun, Christian, pro-life, married.

00:24:15.200 Believe marriage is between a man and a woman.

00:24:17.680 So you folks on the hard left or anywhere, you have your instructions.

00:24:22.500 Oh, that's a white guy.

00:24:23.980 He voted for Trump.

00:24:24.820 He's MAGA.

00:24:25.540 Oh, geez.

00:24:26.220 Don't even talk to him.

00:24:28.160 And we listen to them.

00:24:30.380 This is a dream come true.

00:24:32.520 For people like Mike Pence, who elbow bumps Nancy Pelosi on January 6th.

00:24:40.140 Nice job.

00:24:41.340 Nice job.

00:24:42.900 We kept Trump from getting in.

00:24:44.440 Nice job.

00:24:46.440 This is a dream come true to these money guys, these big tech people worth billions of dollars,

00:24:55.000 who ten years ago or eight years ago were calling Trump a racist and a Nazi for his immigration policy.

00:25:03.480 But now that he's all pro-AI, everybody's buddy-buddy now.

00:25:09.260 Republicans want to get an electric car because Elon Musk, did you see?

00:25:12.780 He's back in the fold.

00:25:15.320 He's back in the fold.

00:25:16.180 Gosh, I wonder how Elon Musk got back in the click.

00:25:20.180 I don't think it had to be his personality.

00:25:22.100 I don't think it was $400 billion.

00:25:24.620 I think it was purely his personality and his ethics and his morals.

00:25:28.700 See, nobody wants to have these conversations.

00:25:31.320 Media should be having these conversations.

00:25:34.480 I don't want to tell you how to talk at home.

00:25:36.560 You do whatever you want at home.

00:25:38.020 But I'll tell you, on the media, the media has sold us out for decades.

00:25:43.160 They've rewritten history.

00:25:47.440 They've covered things up that should be exposed.

00:25:50.000 They've protected Republicans and Democrats.

00:25:52.780 The only people that get the pipe on that is the American citizen, you and me, the voter, the working person,

00:26:02.280 the self-made, maybe you're a self-made millionaire, you're an entrepreneur.

00:26:06.340 You don't think you're getting hosed in this global deal where there's trillions of dollars going out to God knows where?

00:26:16.420 Until we stop and say, I don't care what you say about MTG.

00:26:23.160 She's doing the right things right now.

00:26:26.660 Until we get to that point, we're never going to move the needle.

00:26:32.680 We're just not going to do it.

00:26:33.840 It's not going to work.

00:26:34.660 Look, the only people that keep filling their pockets will be the people at the top.

00:26:39.040 Now, I know you've heard this before, but this is why it continues.

00:26:44.200 Now, here's something so revealing from a congressman in Tennessee that I have respect for, Tim Burchett.

00:26:51.980 And he's talking about this bill, the trading ban, that they should have put in Congress 100 years ago

00:27:01.140 because that's how so many politicians get rich.

00:27:04.120 Politicians, that is such a sweet gig if you're immoral.

00:27:10.560 If you're ethical, you're going to get attacked.

00:27:13.960 You're not going to get invited to the right parties.

00:27:17.660 You're not going to be at Fire Island and you're not going to be wherever.

00:27:23.440 You're not going to be at the Paris art show with so-and-so if you have the ethics and the morals.

00:27:30.060 If you are just a little bit immoral, you can make a killing in politics because the money never stops.

00:27:42.900 Why does the money never stop?

00:27:45.520 Because you and I never stop working.

00:27:48.680 And when we stop working, they tax our benefits and they tax our house.

00:27:55.160 We never own our house.

00:27:56.780 You have your house paid off, but what do you have to do every year?

00:28:01.260 You have to pay the government for the privilege to keep your house or they'll take it.

00:28:06.100 It's the greatest grift in the world, ladies and gentlemen.

00:28:10.120 The political system.

00:28:12.420 Look, we have the best constitution in the world.

00:28:16.200 Our setup is the best.

00:28:18.240 Other countries fantasize about getting to the point where this country has arrived, but we've got so many bad players in the system.

00:28:30.960 They're on the field.

00:28:32.480 They're taking advantage of our laws.

00:28:34.760 They're taking advantage of the constitution.

00:28:37.300 Why are there so many laws?

00:28:39.900 Well, in addition to keeping lawyers employed, it's so people in power could get around the laws.

00:28:48.240 You and I obey the laws.

00:28:50.120 We've had this conversation before.

00:28:52.280 We don't need 9,200 laws.

00:28:55.900 We're good people.

00:28:57.580 If you're a person of faith and integrity and character and moral and common sense, you don't need 9,248 laws every year.

00:29:08.280 That's so the people at the top, like James Comey, can say,

00:29:13.560 well, from what I understand, there were only three people that were paying attention on the grand jury,

00:29:18.920 so that one indictment, that's not going to stick.

00:29:22.940 So Hillary and Bill can say, well, you didn't give us the warning in writing with the right judge in the right district,

00:29:30.700 so we're not coming in up yours.

00:29:32.720 When we all know that in the real world, in the Old West, out on the street,

00:29:38.320 people would be getting their face punched in, figuratively speaking,

00:29:42.880 and the only way we break through this is stop the Democrat, Republican, the left, the right.

00:29:52.380 We have to stop it.

00:29:53.660 It's all theater.

00:29:54.760 It's like your nightly news, ladies and gentlemen.

00:29:57.140 They're actors.

00:29:59.000 It's makeup.

00:30:00.000 It's lights.

00:30:00.900 It's teleprompters.

00:30:02.240 It's scripts.

00:30:03.780 My gosh, have you ever seen a major newsroom?

00:30:06.280 You see how people rehearse their lines?

00:30:09.400 I'm standing here in front of the car accident.

00:30:11.700 Let me do that again.

00:30:12.860 Three, two, one.

00:30:13.680 I'm standing here.

00:30:15.040 How long are we going to play to these people that keep pushing us in different directions?

00:30:20.760 It's crazy.

00:30:22.320 We have to snap out of it.

00:30:23.800 This thing is broken, and it needs to be fixed, and this is the right avenue to do it.

00:30:30.180 And I want to say something.

00:30:31.340 I'm going to get these guys mad at me, but I really don't care because they can't vote in my district.

00:30:35.980 This thing ain't going to pass.

00:30:37.740 We're going to pass something in the House, and then guess what?

00:30:40.980 The Senate will either, one, not take it up, or they'll come back in righteous indignation and say,

00:30:45.640 oh, we need to make this stronger, something totally ridiculous, and they'll send it back to us.

00:30:50.080 This is a scam that's being played on the American public.

00:30:54.880 Thank you, Congressman Tim Burchett.

00:30:58.840 Yeah, when I say it, I sound like a cynical or a skeptical radio guy or a podcaster, but that's the truth.

00:31:08.280 Just like what we're going to see released if Trump signs it, which he will because that's what the polls are telling him to do.

00:31:15.840 He's going to sign the Epstein thing, it'll be released, it'll be so redacted it'll look like they used a box of Sharpies on it,

00:31:23.000 and the trading ban bill, maybe when my kids are in their 50s, they're in their 20s now, maybe it'll be put in place.

00:31:31.920 Do you think that enough Democrats and enough Republicans that are independently wealthy and like being called the honorable so-and-so from Washington, D.C.,

00:31:46.320 do you think they're really going to say, you know, it's really unfair, we have an unfair advantage?

00:31:52.000 Do you think anybody that has the advantage of Washington, D.C. power, be honest now, Republicans or Democrats,

00:32:00.900 do you think they're ever going to give up what they have?

00:32:07.000 They may play along and say, okay, in the future, I can't give my wife a dividend off this information.

00:32:15.640 I get it, okay.

00:32:16.580 But do you think anybody's ever going to say, oh, my gosh, we have such an unfair advantage?

00:32:22.220 I mean, we get paid during shutdowns.

00:32:24.560 Actually, there were several people that didn't get paid.

00:32:28.000 You should find out who they are.

00:32:30.240 Do you think they're ever going to give it up?

00:32:33.000 Honestly?

00:32:34.600 Seriously?

00:32:36.100 I refer back to, and Roger is the expert on this, the JFK files.

00:32:42.540 We're still waiting.

00:32:44.940 And it needs to stop. 0.84

00:32:46.580 Let's quit with this nonsense.

00:32:48.280 Let's give America a reason to trust Congress for once in our miserable lives.

00:32:53.020 This is our chance to stand up and say, we hear what you're saying, America.

00:32:56.440 We're going to fix this dadgum problem.

00:32:58.460 But we probably won't do it.

00:33:00.480 And I'll remain ticked off the rest of the day because of this.

00:33:05.860 I love Tim Purchett.

00:33:08.120 He says daggummit a lot, which is nice. 1.00

00:33:11.020 Daggammit, daggammit. 1.00

00:33:12.680 I'll probably remain ticked off the rest of the day.

00:33:15.180 And just like John Kennedy and the rest of them, the reason we, the people, cannot get traction,

00:33:24.960 the reason Mom Donnie got elected in New York is because the majority of Americans are so over the two-party system the way you've rigged it. 1.00

00:33:38.340 It's that simple.

00:33:39.220 It's not that complicated.

00:33:41.980 It's not that complicated.

00:33:44.000 Every single assembly in Pennsylvania, when the Republicans have power, they squander it. 0.96

00:33:51.240 They do things like give us mail-in ballots or approve budgets that suck.

00:33:56.880 Every single time, you and I, across this great nation, they say, vote for us.

00:34:03.380 Vote for us.

00:34:04.560 We're MAGA.

00:34:05.360 We're this.

00:34:06.000 We're Tea Party.

00:34:07.040 You put us in.

00:34:08.220 We're going to clean it up.

00:34:09.660 Then they get up there and they say, oh, you know, it's it.

00:34:13.040 Sorry.

00:34:13.920 We need another term.

00:34:15.760 No, you don't.

00:34:17.660 You all need to be voted out.

00:34:20.580 The sooner, the better.

00:34:22.200 Maybe by this weekend.

00:34:23.940 We'll be right back in the Stone Zone.

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00:34:36.700 Thank you for being in the zone tonight on the Red Apple Audio Networks.

00:34:40.960 The Stone Zone.

00:34:41.900 My name's Ken Matthews.

00:34:43.040 Always a pleasure to be in for Roger Stone.

00:34:46.120 This hour goes way too quickly.

00:34:48.360 I say that all the time.

00:34:51.160 My wife never says that, though.

00:34:53.100 She never says, you know, you're just you're talking.

00:34:57.100 You're not talking enough, Ken.

00:34:58.720 You need to talk more.

00:35:01.080 She might have said that when we were dating.

00:35:04.580 I mean, if we were maybe if we were drinking or whatever.

00:35:07.900 But now it's, you know.

00:35:09.340 Well, you married folks now.

00:35:11.520 800-848-9222.

00:35:14.440 I can't leave without this.

00:35:16.160 This has also been on my mind today.

00:35:19.620 Come fly with me.

00:35:21.920 Let's fly.

00:35:23.120 Let's fly away.

00:35:25.900 Air travel is a miracle of American ingenuity.

00:35:31.340 We built airports to launch a golden age of travel across the skies.

00:35:35.360 We respected the dignity of air travel and the men and women who made the dream possible.

00:35:43.460 Flying was a bastion of civility.

00:35:46.820 But today...

00:35:48.820 I'm allowed to put my seat back.

00:36:15.880 But manners don't stop at the gate.

00:36:19.340 That's right.

00:36:20.480 Manners don't stop at the gate. 0.95

00:36:22.260 Things aren't what they used to be.

00:36:24.220 Some would call it the golden age of travel.

00:36:26.980 Let's bring civility and manners back.

00:36:29.920 Ask yourself, are you helping a pregnant woman put her bag in the overhead bin? 0.99

00:36:34.420 Are you dressing with respect?

00:36:36.280 Are you keeping control of your children?

00:36:38.520 Are you saying thank you to your flight attendants and your pilots?

00:36:41.820 Are you saying please and thank you in general?

00:36:44.040 Well, the golden age of travel begins with you.

00:36:48.360 Okay, so that's from the U.S. Department of Transportation.

00:36:52.640 And it's one of the few government things that gets sent out that, you know, I say, you know what?

00:36:57.380 I like that message.

00:36:58.200 You're not trying to brainwash me.

00:36:59.880 You're not subliminally moving me in a direction that I don't want to go in.

00:37:04.260 Because I couldn't agree more.

00:37:05.420 That was Secretary of – wait, what was his – I know it was Sean Duffy, but what is his – oh, Transportation Secretary.

00:37:14.860 I was spacing out there for a second.

00:37:16.920 Anyway, that's something that really bugs me, and I'm sure it bugs you. 0.98

00:37:22.260 And I just think there should be a law that if I can see your butt crack or if I can see too much of your feet and if I can see your underwear and if your pants are down above your knees, you shouldn't be allowed on an aircraft because you're too much of a slob to be on an aircraft. 1.00

00:37:42.260 I mean, aircrafts are – they're tight ships. 0.93

00:37:46.020 They're tight vessels.

00:37:47.800 The people that fly them and operate them have their act together.

00:37:51.280 I'm just so tired of some of the cruise crowd showing up on the aircraft and just being belligerent and rude.

00:38:01.520 All of it. 0.98

00:38:02.500 It's just ridiculous. 0.67

00:38:03.620 I remember I first went on a plane in the early 60s, and I wore a suit. 0.70

00:38:08.780 My parents made me wear a suit or, at the very least, a sport coat, and I must say I looked pretty sharp, eight or nine years old, in a sport coat.

00:38:18.240 I had a little John Jr. vibe going, a little John John vibe going, because that was my parents' era.

00:38:25.740 I miss those days.

00:38:27.060 I think if you're a slob or you come on, you're having a big bowl of chili and you're pushing people, you should help pregnant women on a plane. 1.00

00:38:35.580 You shouldn't impregnate women on a plane. 0.99

00:38:37.960 I'll leave you with that.

00:38:39.760 It's a good time to stop.

00:38:41.100 God bless you.

00:38:41.760 Have a great day.

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