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00:00:41.580 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

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00:00:56.480 Good evening. This is not Roger Stone. You do not need to change your station. Check the dial.

00:01:03.920 This is Sean Spicer, President Trump's first press secretary. I'm filling in for Roger Stone tonight.

00:01:10.740 The Stone Zone is the Spicer Zone, at least for the night.

00:01:15.000 But Roger's okay with that. But I'm taking it over. I'm going to sit in the Stone Zone for the next hour.

00:01:20.600 I got some stuff to fill you in on. What went down on Capitol Hill today?

00:01:23.600 it was an absolute embarrassment for the Democratic Party. But I'm going to take your

00:01:29.440 questions too. I don't care if you're from CNN or the New York Times. I'm ready. I'm back. I'm

00:01:34.480 taking all your questions. I'm so excited. So honored to be sitting in for Roger tonight for

00:01:39.060 the hour on the stone. You have a question for me? Bring it. I got it. I'll take anything.

00:01:44.200 1-800-848-9222.

00:01:48.300 All right, guys, there was a ton of stuff going on on Capitol Hill today.

00:01:54.720 But I've got to tell you, the Democrats thought that when they had on ICE today and they had Rodney Scott, the head of the Border Patrol, and Todd Lyons, the acting director of ICE up on Capitol Hill, I think the Democrats were ready.

00:02:13.520 They thought, oh, this is going to be amazing.

00:02:15.660 We got these guys where we want them.

00:02:18.240 I don't think they fully appreciated the background of these two gentlemen.

00:02:22.820 These are not some shrinking violets.

00:02:26.040 They've both been agents for decades.

00:02:29.460 They know this stuff inside and out.

00:02:31.920 They have been dealing with the issues.

00:02:34.120 They are agents at heart.

00:02:36.260 They know what's going on.

00:02:37.280 It was almost like you were embarrassed for them because they didn't appreciate what they were going up against.

00:02:45.320 So Todd Lyons, as I mentioned, the acting director of ICE, this guy's been a federal agent for decades.

00:02:51.220 He knows what's going on.

00:02:54.880 And I thought he did a really good job at the beginning of the hearing, just laying it out.

00:02:59.980 Here's what's going on. Cut seven.

00:03:02.480 before discussing our broader operations i must address the situation in minnesota

00:03:10.300 and the dangers that ice agents and officers face nationwide while the investigations remain

00:03:16.300 ongoing i'm encouraged that some minnesota officials are finally signaling the willingness

00:03:20.320 to cooperate with ice but let me be clear promises are not enough we need action in the wake of the

00:03:27.100 unprecedented border crisis of the previous administration ice has stepped into the breach

00:03:31.460 to enforce the law. This commitment has a cost. We are facing the deadliest operating environment

00:03:37.180 in our agency's history. In fiscal year 2025, death threats against ICE personnel increased

00:03:43.480 more than 8,000%. Assaults on officers have skyrocketed over 1,400%. One officer in Minnesota

00:03:49.800 had his finger bitten off by a protester, egged on by elected officials characterizing our offices

00:03:55.120 as the Gestapo or secret police.

00:03:58.080 The families of ICE personnel have been made to feel unsafe in their homes.

00:04:02.640 I know this firsthand because my own family was targeted.

00:04:07.480 But let me send a message to anyone who thinks they can intimidate us.

00:04:10.660 You will fail.

00:04:12.620 Despite these perils, our officers continue to execute their mission with unwavering resolve.

00:04:17.660 And we are only getting started.

00:04:19.300 ICE remains committed to the fundamental principles

00:04:21.240 that those who illegally enter our country must be held accountable.

00:04:25.120 okay so i thought that was a great way to lay the foundation for what we're about to do and

00:04:35.340 frankly you know he's like hey look our guys are out there you congress pass these laws

00:04:41.300 we're enforcing them our job is to do what you say you want to change the law change the law

00:04:48.100 But right now, the agents go out there and do this. 0.88

00:04:50.960 They lay down lives, risk their lives, to enforce the law that you knuckleheads passed.

00:05:00.040 Okay?

00:05:01.240 This should be easy peasy.

00:05:03.380 And oh, by the way, when you use rhetoric and call them bad names, like Hitler and Nazi and the Gestapo,

00:05:12.580 you not only undermine a mission, but you create and make them targets.

00:05:16.160 so he's laying the ground okay like this is this this should be easy now at this point if you're

00:05:22.840 a democrat you're like okay let's go into the numbers maybe try to talk about some of the

00:05:27.300 you know the tactics can we find common ground can we talk about you know face master all the

00:05:34.340 list of crazy 10 demands that they had so i'm trying to figure out okay where do you go from

00:05:40.240 there. Like this guy, Todd Lyons has laid out a pretty reasonable set of understanding as to

00:05:49.120 where we are, what the environment is. So who comes up? And remember, what does Lyons say?

00:05:57.500 We're facing the deadliest operation environment in our nation's history.

00:06:03.200 Deadliest ever. When we get called names, people come after us. They gaslight us. They dox us.

00:06:08.260 they come after our families. Democrats used to be the party of federal employees,

00:06:14.720 the people that would protect these people. They were all about the unions and the federal

00:06:17.840 employees, blah, blah, blah. So Dan Goldman, a congressman from New York, after all of that

00:06:24.500 gets laid out, how does Dan Goldman respond? Take a listen. No, I'll tell you what the wrong

00:06:33.680 type of thing. But actually, sir, it's my time. Reclaiming my time, sir. Reclaiming my time,

00:06:39.800 Mr. Chairman. It's not the men and women of ICE that are out there doing it every day.

00:06:43.300 So to say it's the men and women of ICE that Gestapo... Mr. Chairman, I'm reclaiming my time.

00:06:46.360 I would like my time back, please. Please give me another 15 seconds because he was unnecessarily

00:06:51.940 speaking. You said in your opening statement that references to ICE as the Gestapo or the

00:06:59.540 secret police encourages threats against ICE agents. 100%. The problem is you have it backwards,

00:07:06.560 sir. People are simply making valid observations about your tactics, which are un-American 0.99

00:07:14.760 and outright fascist. So I have a simple suggestion. If you don't want to be called

00:07:22.680 a fascist regime or secret police, then stop acting like one. But people are simply just

00:07:31.520 observing what they are seeing. And that's why people are making those comments.

00:07:37.960 Now, I was a prosecutor for 10 years.

00:07:42.440 I cannot believe that. It's your fault that we're calling you the guy. I mean,

00:07:49.740 Do you understand, like, I wonder where Dan Goldman went to school.

00:07:56.060 Seriously.

00:07:56.380 And I mean, how do you look at people who are sworn federations upholding the laws of the country and go, no, no, no, you are the Gestapo?

00:08:11.860 And he starts talking about America.

00:08:12.860 I mean, let's just be 100 percent clear.

00:08:16.120 Dan Goldman and he create sanctuary cities where they tell people you can hire if you're not in this country illegally.

00:08:26.600 If you're a criminal, hey, come on over.

00:08:28.400 We won't tell anyone where you are. 0.94

00:08:30.660 You want to talk about the Gestapo?

00:08:32.260 You guys, your party, Mr. Goldman, are literally coddling and hiding people committing crimes in this country.

00:08:45.640 I mean, this isn't like, I honestly, there are days in which I cannot, but this is the party, by the way, where Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, all talked about, if you're in this country, last decade or so, that you are here illegally, you must be removed, and there's no ifs, ands, ands, and suddenly these people are talking about the American way of life.

00:09:11.820 I'm sorry, you broke the law. 0.99

00:09:13.400 You came into this country illegally 0.95

00:09:14.540 and you want to talk about who the Gestapo is

00:09:16.920 and the secret police and call the federal agents

00:09:19.540 who are putting their lives on the line

00:09:20.860 to keep our community safer, the bad guys? 0.99

00:09:23.920 Are you nuts? 0.98

00:09:25.740 And then if it's not that bad, right? 1.00

00:09:28.240 So it's like, you're going to attack the cops

00:09:30.160 and the federal agents who protect us,

00:09:34.540 who will go away, who will,

00:09:36.160 and by the way, listen to what Todd Isaac,

00:09:37.920 their families are getting attacked.

00:09:40.600 They're getting doxxed. 0.99

00:09:41.540 These guys are making, what, 80, 90, maybe 100 grand with like, and suddenly their families are getting phone calls like, bad person, we're coming after you, we want to kill you, we want to come and kill your family. 0.99

00:09:53.540 They didn't go into this to get rich. 0.98

00:09:55.900 They went into it out of a sense of service.

00:09:59.260 So here you have Dan Goldman and some of the other Democrats attacking the agents, which is pretty bad. 0.98

00:10:07.320 But then you got this other clown from California, Luke Correa, and he goes, let's take this a step further down the dumb, dumb train, because here's what he had to say about the people who they're actually going after. 0.97

00:10:21.000 when Trump got elected on the promise to deport the worst of the worst. 0.95

00:10:28.500 Your numbers, Mr. Lyons, less than 14% of those arrested by ICE first year, 2025,

00:10:36.540 had charges or convictions of violence.

00:10:41.440 70% of those deported had not even a traffic ticket.

00:10:47.120 Mr. Lyons, I think we're all patriots. 0.99

00:10:51.000 But I'm trying to figure out how, this is a question to you, sir, how deporting a nanny makes our nation safer, stronger? 0.98

00:10:58.980 How trying to deport the father of three Marines make this country stronger? 0.90

00:11:05.300 How deporting the parents of a number of Marines at Camp Pendleton makes this nation stronger?

00:11:13.220 Sir, thank you for your welcome, first off.

00:11:15.080 Just to address the numbers with the 14%, sir, that's 14% that are listed as violent criminal felonies.

00:11:24.160 However, what's left out of that is the fact that what's left off that list is human traffic.

00:11:26.920 No, 70%, they don't have a traffic ticket and deported.

00:11:31.460 How has that made our nation stronger?

00:11:33.560 Sir, if you look at what ICE has done, more than 60% of every individual that is in ICE custody

00:11:39.360 has a pending or a conviction on a criminal charge.

00:11:42.360 Sir, let me move ahead. I only have three minutes.

00:11:45.080 yeah sir i don't want the real answer i i want to defend these people i i need to defend the

00:11:52.360 criminals i don't have time for your facts and your statistics and your reality i mean so what

00:11:58.680 maybe they had some child porn or dwi i mean come on who doesn't what what is going on let's tactic

00:12:06.540 one go after the federal agents tactic two coddle and defend the criminals i mean this is literally

00:12:12.480 insane. And then, if that's not bad enough, again, here comes strike three. We went after

00:12:20.040 the agents. We defended the criminals. You know what was left, folks? Let's go after Todd Lyons

00:12:26.000 himself. Let's go after this public servant. And here to do it, then the woman who literally

00:12:32.160 attacked a federal agent, the congresswoman from New Jersey herself, LaMonica McIver. Go. 0.98

00:12:38.460 Let me ask you some questions that you may be able to answer. Mr. Lyons, do you consider yourself a religious man? Yes, ma'am. Oh, yes. Okay. Well, how do you think Judgment Day will work for you with so much blood on your hands? I'm not going to entertain that question. Oh, okay. Of course not. Do you think you're going to hell, Mr. Lyons? I'm not going to entertain. Of course not. How many governments? The gentlelady will suspend. The gentlelady will suspend. Chairman?

00:13:05.180 A gentlelady will suspend. As I said, the issues we're debating here are important to ones that

00:13:10.240 members feel deeply about. While vigorous disagreement is part of the legislative process,

00:13:15.680 members are reminded that we must adhere to established standards of decorum in debate.

00:13:19.900 The witnesses are here voluntarily, and I will continue to remind members that while oversight

00:13:25.460 is important, aggressively attacking those witnesses personally is inappropriate and not

00:13:30.900 in keeping with the traditions of our committee. Mr. Chairman, I'm just asking a question.

00:13:34.480 you all you guys are always talking about religion here in the bible i mean it's okay for me to ask

00:13:39.500 a question right what an embarrassment an absolute embarrassment i i cannot believe

00:13:47.900 that these guys literally fell over each other to be more embarrassing than the next attack the

00:13:52.940 agent defend the criminals attack todd lions unbelievable all right i will take any of your

00:13:59.960 questions no matter what it is i thought that was so instructive but i got a lot more to get with

00:14:04.280 you guys. If you've got anything on your mind tonight, this is Sean Spicer sitting in for Roger

00:14:09.680 Stone in the Stone Zone. Give me a call 1-800-848-9222 or download the app. I'll take it

00:14:17.240 no matter how you want to ask it. I got it. We'll be back after this break. This is the Stone Zone

00:14:23.800 with Roger Stone. It is a great, great person. Roger Stone. The Stone Zone.

00:14:34.280 This is the Stone Zone.

00:14:50.460 Now, get in the zone.

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00:14:54.340 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going, and he's smart, and he's strong, and people love him.

00:15:01.300 Not everybody, but people love him and respect him.

00:15:03.820 Roger Stone. Where's Roger Stone?

00:15:06.260 Here's Roger Stone.

00:15:10.200 All right. Don't change your stage, your diet, your app.

00:15:16.340 It's Sean Spicer sitting in for Roger Stone,

00:15:18.880 sitting and commanding the Stone Zone tonight for Roger.

00:15:23.380 Give me a call. I'm going to be taking your questions tonight.

00:15:26.500 That's the difference. I just needed to get back into the mix.

00:15:29.260 I said, Roger, give me a couple of bats. Let me up to the plate.

00:15:32.260 I got to take a couple swings.

00:15:33.300 I'm missing the questions.

00:15:35.220 No, I'm not.

00:15:35.940 I'm not kidding.

00:15:36.420 I'm not missing them.

00:15:37.200 But I'm excited to take your questions.

00:15:38.840 Honored to be sitting in for Roger.

00:15:40.240 Give me a shout out.

00:15:41.720 Give me a call at 1-800-848-9222.

00:15:45.480 All right.

00:15:45.980 Andrew from New Jersey, what's on your mind?

00:15:48.520 Hey, how's it going?

00:15:50.140 My mind is, I'll answer the two. 0.74

00:15:53.180 That question said, how is deporting a nanny make us safer? 0.94

00:15:57.460 And also about Judgment Day.

00:15:59.520 First, deporting a nanny, it makes us safer because when nannies, such as my wife, came here as actually an au pair first, and then she became a nanny after being an au pair, it makes us safer because they literally, our government had pictures of my parents. 0.65

00:16:18.280 Her parents from Thailand had their photos, their address, their occupations, so there was a background check not only on my wife but on her family, and also her family members are police officers and military, and Thailand's military is also allied with the United States, just as a side note. 0.96

00:16:39.680 And also it makes us safer when they come here legally health-wise because she had health checks both in Thailand and here was tested for tuberculosis, HIV, and also if it was this.

00:16:54.080 Andrew, can I just ask you this?

00:16:55.320 Andrew, Andrew, Andrew, hold on.

00:16:56.760 I don't mean to interrupt you, but you're making a ton of sense, right?

00:17:00.540 I just question whether that was even a real question.

00:17:03.500 I think they were trying to – it wasn't – you're answering this perfectly.

00:17:07.800 but but i don't actually think it was a real question that's the thing i they they wanted

00:17:12.520 to make it seem like oh what about the nannies and the answer to my question is everything that

00:17:18.400 you said but just at its fundamental like we don't know i mean that's what you're really

00:17:22.100 getting at right you your wife and her like do everything she proper panels and leader we don't

00:17:27.980 know who and they're they're trying to figure out the soft point oh the nannies what about the people

00:17:32.880 who picked this as opposed to yes they're in the country illegally we don't know anything because

00:17:37.500 We don't have any background checks on them.

00:17:39.480 They didn't come through the right channels.

00:17:41.900 I mean, it's a red herring, right, Andrew?

00:17:43.500 Isn't that really?

00:17:45.220 It's also more exploitive because when people are here illegally, they could be not only paid less like they are, but they could be taken advantage of and they fear going to the authorities.

00:17:56.940 Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.

00:17:58.480 I think you're absolutely right, Andrew.

00:18:01.280 That's the bottom line.

00:18:02.300 But I think it was a red herring. It was a stupid question that the Democrats were asking on that panel to try to get a sympathetic response from the American people. 1.00

00:18:09.920 We all know the real answer in this. Anyway, Andrew, thanks for the question. 0.99

00:18:13.720 If you've got a question, let me call 1-800-848-9222.

00:18:18.660 This is Sean Spicer sitting in the Stone Zone for Roger Stone tonight. We'll be right back.

00:18:32.300 this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's the very very one of the smartest

00:18:46.900 political minds roger stone was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant

00:18:51.680 political analyst now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone

00:18:58.340 hey yes you are in the stone zone but this is not roger stone

00:19:05.180 sean spicer filling in for roger stone tonight i'm taking all your questions that's right no

00:19:12.320 matter what you have on your mind no matter i don't care if you work for cnn the new york times

00:19:17.720 or you work for both you moonlight for new york times and you're at cnn i'll take your question

00:19:22.300 i don't care because i get the honor of sitting in the stone zone tonight so let's kick it off joe

00:19:30.300 new jersey tell me what you've got going on hi sean um just quick question this isn't my question

00:19:36.940 but i'm interested in this and i thought it shouldn't have happened but are you back in

00:19:41.100 with the naval academy again i yeah great question uh so just so everyone knows uh joe the first term

00:19:49.820 I think Joe's asking, I assume, President Trump, after I left the White House, appointed me to the Board of Visitors, the U.S. Naval Academy.

00:19:57.160 I'll give you the cliff note version because this is so cool.

00:20:00.260 So I get a text or an email one day towards the end of my term from the head of personnel in the Biden administration.

00:20:07.140 She says, thank you for your service.

00:20:09.660 You can either resign from the Board of Visitors of the Naval Academy by 5TN today or President Biden will fire you.

00:20:17.440 And I wrote back, I'm not resigning.

00:20:19.820 So they fired me and I got together with America First Legal, the group that Stephen Miller was running.

00:20:27.820 And he said, hey, you like to be the plaintiff in a case against the Biden administration.

00:20:32.920 So as myself and Russ Vogt, Spicer B. Biden became the case.

00:20:39.240 And I don't know if you know, I mean, Joe, I apologize if you know this, but I want to make sure everyone else does.

00:20:43.640 But basically we go into the court case and here was the thing that no one got at the time.

00:20:48.240 First of all, my term expired in like 30 days from when they dismissed me, which is the dumbest thing ever.

00:20:53.580 And they got rid of all of the Trump appointees, Naval Academy, West Point, Air Force Academy.

00:20:58.480 And they said, we have the right to do this.

00:21:00.160 We went to court.

00:21:00.980 The idea was to make the Biden administration argue in the affirmative that they had the right to fire anybody.

00:21:08.040 The idea that America First Legal was thinking, let's establish this precedent now.

00:21:13.200 So anyway, we go to court.

00:21:14.420 We quote unquote lose what the Biden administration argues, as we suggested.

00:21:18.360 President Trump gets elected and I say to him, Mr. President, you have a precedent that was set by America's legal.

00:21:24.660 I was the plaintiff in this. And I get a call from the folks at The Washington Post.

00:21:29.040 They said, what do you think about the Kennedy Center? So what do you mean?

00:21:32.420 What do I think about the Kennedy Center? Why do I care about the Kennedy Center?

00:21:36.320 And this report said to me, oh, you haven't heard. I said, heard what?

00:21:42.100 Well, President Trump fired everybody at the Kennedy Center.

00:21:44.940 And when they were asked if they were going to do anything about it, they said, we can't

00:21:49.440 serve Biden.

00:21:51.600 And I went, oh my gosh.

00:21:53.420 And I literally have, I'm sitting here in my studio tonight.

00:21:56.220 I have a Washington Post front page section that you Google.

00:22:00.280 And the title is, why can President Trump fire everyone from the Kennedy Center?

00:22:04.640 Ask Sean Spicer.

00:22:06.320 It was the most brilliant thing.

00:22:07.520 I actually, just to toot my horn just a second, I have a brand new book coming out.

00:22:11.340 I talked to Roger about this actually the other day called Trump 2.0, where I talked very extensively about Spicer v. Biden.

00:22:18.240 If you want to go to Amazon right now, you can go order Trump 2.0.

00:22:22.200 But I have a whole chapter in there about how important this is, because the Biden folks thought that they were smarter than everyone else.

00:22:27.640 Oh, we're going to fire him first in the history of the United States that had ever happened.

00:22:33.080 First time ever, Joe. And lo and behold, now all these guys are getting pissed about what President Trump's doing.

00:22:38.600 And every time one of these little weasels whines, oh, President Trump's firing everyone.

00:22:43.500 I go, you're right. 0.53

00:22:44.400 Guess why?

00:22:45.640 Spicer v. Biden.

00:22:47.340 Anyway, Joe, thanks for bringing that up.

00:22:48.920 Is that, do you have a question?

00:22:50.920 I appreciate you asking, but yes, President Trump appointed me after he got back in office

00:22:55.360 back to the board of the U.S. Naval Academy.

00:22:58.880 Yeah, I'm a military retired lieutenant colonel from the Army Reserve, retired police officer,

00:23:04.200 and also retired immigration service officers, the reoccupations I'm retired from.

00:23:08.000 So I'm kind of a student of history, but my question is for you. The recklessness of the opposition, the Democrats, the liberals, the communists, whatever you want to call them, is so deep. Are we ever going to fix this through a nonviolent solution? Are we heading for whatever you want to call it, a civil war or a violent reconstruction? Are we heading for that if we don't fix this under Trump?

00:23:34.420 so i answer your question a different way because i think there's a lot of people who presume that

00:23:41.980 it's got to end in a certain way and i'm going to give you so here's why i don't think it goes

00:23:47.920 in that direction the answer to your question is yes it will get fixed but i think through

00:23:52.120 different means here's what i mean by this we we have forgotten on the right one we need to grow

00:24:00.240 up and get a spine for some of us. But some of these guys in Congress, there's an excuse,

00:24:05.580 well, you can't do this. I had a pollster on my show. I have the Sean Spicer show every night

00:24:09.860 on YouTube. Last Friday, I had exclusive polling on the show where I showed that when you actually

00:24:14.960 ask voters what they think of ICE, it's a resounding, like they support ICE, they support

00:24:21.320 deportation. The media will never tell you that story. The members of Congress are all weakening.

00:24:25.680 We can need to cut a deal. We need to do this. The media doesn't want us to do this. But when

00:24:29.500 we stand up for for common sense, getting rid of pronouns, ending the DEI woke agenda, what's right

00:24:37.000 in terms of immigration, standing up for law enforcement, et cetera, et cetera. The American

00:24:40.860 people are with us. And I'll give you the most recent example. Sunday night, many of us were

00:24:47.100 watching the Super Bowl. I'm a Patriots fan. I was watching it, disappointed, but watching it.

00:24:52.540 Half the boat comes on. I go, I leave the room. I go put on TBN. I watch the Turning Point USA

00:24:58.280 show yesterday on my show i have andrew colette colvette who's the spokesman for turning point

00:25:04.260 usa says so how did it go like what's your he said sean when the numbers are done we expect to

00:25:09.420 have 30 to 40 million people have watched that either stream we're gonna get a forensics team

00:25:15.640 to come in and do an independent analysis so that everyone believes it and the reason that i answer

00:25:19.960 your question this way joe is because of this we're there it's just that i think too many people

00:25:26.420 don't realize how big the movement is because the media, Hollywood, academia, corporate America

00:25:31.680 wants us to feel small and marginalized. We are on the right side of these issues if we're willing

00:25:38.060 to stand up and fight for them and let people know that they're not alone. Because so many times

00:25:43.040 when I bump into people and I say, oh my God, I'm so with you. I know, like, thank you for

00:25:48.060 everything you do with President Trump. I go, oh, I can't say anything at work because I'll get in

00:25:51.420 trouble. I can't do that. I said, what do you mean you can't? You can, but you won't. And I understand

00:25:58.260 sometimes it's tough. I'm not, I'm not trying to, but we're right. Think about what it took

00:26:04.460 Sunday night. I know in its simplicity, it's a number, but you're sitting there watching the

00:26:09.960 game and you have to turn the channel or flip on YouTube to watch this thing. And almost a quarter

00:26:15.660 to a third of the people watching Superbowl said, I don't want to watch this guy, Bad Bunny. I'll

00:26:21.140 watch good entertainment instead. That tells me that there's a big, broad movement that's with us

00:26:29.240 if we're willing to stand up and be proud and loud and confront it and fight for it. And President

00:26:36.160 Trump needs us going into a midterm. So I think we're there. I just don't think that I think the

00:26:41.040 forces that control the major institutions don't want to. You notice there was no coverage of that

00:26:46.680 today, by the way. Think about this. When else can you get 30 to 40 million people to do anything

00:26:51.880 and it's complete silence in the media? They refuse to acknowledge it because they know

00:26:56.560 that we're right and they know the movement is big. So I think it's there, Joe. Anyway,

00:27:03.180 thanks for your question. Todd from New Jersey, what's going on?

00:27:09.540 All right, Mary, Connecticut, how are you? Oh yeah, hi. Just a real quick question for you

00:27:15.760 about ken paxton he's going to win the primary in texas against john cornyn and i guess somebody

00:27:22.440 else i don't know their name but jasmine crock is also running for the senate i don't think for one

00:27:27.680 minute the republicans should discount the fact that she could win because ken paxton is an

00:27:32.700 extremely flawed candidate and um i'm not really sure how much the base is going to be turning out

00:27:39.140 for him or for that matter, I don't feel that the base is inspired to turn out for this election

00:27:47.680 because the Republicans don't get up and fight. They need to get up and fight, grow a spine,

00:27:54.580 either that or buy one from Amazon. Mary, let me ask you this. You said you were from Connecticut.

00:28:04.260 it. Are you in touch with folks from Texas? Are you from there? Like, are you just following it

00:28:10.400 closely? Just my own personal insight. That's all. Right. No, no, it's great. I just, I wanted

00:28:17.920 to get a sense of, because I've been following this race and I just want people to understand

00:28:21.880 what's happening. Okay. So let's do the Democrat side first. Two people running James Tallarico.

00:28:27.660 He is a state rep in Texas, very telegenic.

00:28:31.280 He's very like Beto O'Rourke, like, you know, like sort of real telegenic, but sort of a real phony.

00:28:39.520 And you got Jasmine Crockett.

00:28:42.060 Now, here's what I'm going to here's my take on this. 0.96

00:28:44.420 I think Jasmine Crockett wins the Democratic primary and she becomes their nominee.

00:28:49.740 She's got the but there's two things that I will tell you that you have to that I think are a problem here.

00:28:54.940 she has raised about $200,000. Now I live in Alexandria, Virginia. You can't win a council

00:29:02.240 seat in Alexandria for $100,000. So she may, and money will flood in, get me wrong on this,

00:29:09.660 but like she doesn't have a current campaign manager right now. She's doing stops like she's 1.00

00:29:15.100 running for dog catcher. There's a huge story out in the last 24 hours about how she's running this

00:29:20.480 non-traditional campaign and not do that in Texas. It's just impossible. And so I get not 1.00

00:29:27.900 necessarily running a traditional campaign, but she's literally not running TV. She has no campaign 0.97

00:29:33.160 manager and you're running for the United States Senate in Texas, which is a big, big state with

00:29:37.740 multiple media markets. So I will tell you this. I don't discount her for any, because the Democrats

00:29:44.920 will flood the zone. But she is a flawed, flawed, flawed, flawed, flawed candidate. 0.97

00:29:50.100 Now, let me flip the page. There are three candidates, as you mentioned, running for the

00:29:56.800 Republican nomination in Texas. The current incumbent, John Cornyn, who is a member of

00:30:03.360 leadership. He was Texas's attorney general prior to this, meaning he's been in office for like

00:30:09.960 three decades well well known very establishment okay um and everyone in the dc establishment is

00:30:18.900 behind cornyn thune all the dc money all that guys i didn't close to 10 million dollars in the

00:30:24.780 bank the two people he's facing are wesley hunt a houston area congressman west point graduate i

00:30:30.760 like wesley a lot but i don't know what he what he's thinking he cannot win this primary he cannot

00:30:36.580 win. He's just not as well known. He literally filed his papers on the very last day, which is

00:30:45.020 not a sign of seriousness as far as I'm concerned. I really like Wesley. I think he's a great

00:30:49.340 candidate, great story. He is, like I said, West Point grad, Army guy. That's the only thing I hold

00:30:55.780 against him as a Navy guy, but he's going to win. He's pulling between 15% and 20%.

00:31:00.400 And then you got Ken Paxton. Ken is the current attorney general, had a lot, to your point, a lot of baggage with Ken. He's raised about $1.7 million. But yesterday, Turning Point, they endorsed it. That is going to help him tremendously.

00:31:17.860 And the last two polls that have come out in the last 48, 72 hours show Paxson up between six and eight percent.

00:31:26.080 OK, but here's the but.

00:31:29.180 March 3rd, the way it works in Texas is that if neither of the candidates in there.

00:31:34.080 Well, so the Democrats, it's two people.

00:31:35.740 One of them will get 50 percent because just mathematically works on the Republican side.

00:31:41.900 If one of them doesn't get 50 percent, it goes to a runoff the top two.

00:31:46.540 Now, here's the way I look at this right now.

00:31:48.460 Current status, no one gets to 50 because Thune, Cornyn's at like mid to high 30s.

00:31:56.440 Paxson, depending on which poll you're looking at, is anywhere from the mid 30s to the low 40s.

00:32:00.020 As I said, the last two, he's up on Cornyn and Wesley Hunt between 15 and 20%, depending on the poll.

00:32:07.800 So as it stands today, March 3rd comes, I think you're going into a runoff with Cornyn and Paxson.

00:32:15.600 Now, here's my scenario. As I said, every D.C. establishment person is all in for Thune. And his pollster is a guy named Tony Fabrizio, who happens to be President Trump's pollster. So there's definitely some back channels there saying, hey, Mr. President, can you support Cornyn?

00:32:37.360 the Paxson people are very clear. Hey, look, we got the momentum. We got the grassroots with us.

00:32:44.160 We got Turning Point USA. I would, everybody is lobbying President Trump for his endorsement

00:32:50.680 right now, primarily the Cornyn people and the Paxson people. I think it was a jump ball the

00:32:57.500 other day. I think the Turning Point USA thing, I got to be honest, Mary, I think that if I had

00:33:02.500 to put money on who he, if President Trump endorses it, and it's still a big if, I would

00:33:07.980 put money on Ken Paxson right now. And that shifted when Turning Point USA put their money

00:33:11.940 on him. So if that happens and Wesley Hunt says, okay, with Trump endorsing, I can't win. There's

00:33:18.960 no way. I'm going to drop out and endorse Paxson. I think that is the only scenario

00:33:25.180 where you have a candidate that gets 50% and walks away with this. Now, then we enter the

00:33:31.300 general election is kind of what you put up but until we know where we are on march 3rd it's the

00:33:36.800 incomplete picture so that's my take on the text you know i like i said i don't live in texas i

00:33:44.480 don't vote in texas i live in virginia we had actually had an election here today in virginia

00:33:48.200 um but i'm just telling you like i i think this is the one that's been the hit against paxton is

00:33:54.020 that he can't win a general that's what the corning people keep saying but i'm telling you

00:33:58.160 If Jasmine Crockett is the Dem, I mean, a doorknob can beat her.

00:34:03.680 Now, if Tallarico pulls this thing out, which I don't think he will,

00:34:07.320 the Dems are going to claim that they can beat Paxson.

00:34:09.840 And who knows?

00:34:10.720 We'll see what the polling looks like. 0.95

00:34:12.300 But I tell you that, like, Jasmine Crockett,

00:34:14.620 I just don't think is going to get people fired up. 1.00

00:34:16.620 She will not run a professional campaign. 1.00

00:34:18.620 I don't think she can pull it off.

00:34:19.900 That's my take on things.

00:34:21.640 I appreciate the question.

00:34:23.180 I thank you for bringing it up because I think that it's going to be

00:34:27.280 really interesting how this thing plays out heading to the final days anyway this is sean

00:34:33.400 spicer sitting in the stone zone right in the dead center of it for roger stone tonight i'll take your

00:34:40.380 questions and when we come back though i gotta play you an unbelievable clip from a democrat

00:34:45.400 in north carolina that makes wonder about the education system this is sean spicer sitting

00:34:50.680 in for roger stone give me a holler 1-800-848-9222 we'll be right

00:34:57.280 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:35:15.320 Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.

00:35:19.400 Roger Stone was persecuted.

00:35:20.620 People forget he's actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.

00:35:23.680 Now, get him a zone.

00:35:25.520 It's the Stone Zone.

00:35:27.280 Here's Roger Stone.

00:35:31.340 Well, it is not Roger Stone. This is the Stone Zone.

00:35:34.700 Don't worry, you are in the right place.

00:35:36.920 It's Sean Spicer sitting in for Roger Stone.

00:35:40.180 I'm excited and honored to be sitting.

00:35:43.020 You wouldn't believe how we've got the Stone Zone decorated tonight.

00:35:45.580 It is unbelievable.

00:35:46.460 Roger is going to have a fit when he sees what I've done with the Stone Zone tonight.

00:35:50.560 But I will have it all put back together by the time he's back.

00:35:53.100 Anyway, it's been great to be here tonight.

00:35:55.680 There was this unbelievable exchange down in Mecklenburg, North Carolina, today that blew my mind.

00:36:02.960 I want to play it for you because it makes me question public education.

00:36:06.720 Go.

00:36:08.680 What branch of government do you operate under?

00:36:12.620 Mecklenburg County.

00:36:16.260 What branch of government do you operate under, Sheriff?

00:36:19.220 Constitution of the United States correct that is what establishes the branches of government

00:36:29.660 I'm asking which branch you fall under Mecklenburg County meduly swan Mecklenburg County Sheriff we

00:36:36.920 answer to the people of Mecklenburg County this was not where I was anticipating getting stuck

00:36:41.900 are you aware of how many branches of government there are no for the sake of debate I will move

00:36:56.420 on and say there are three branches of government legislative executive judicial of those three which

00:37:02.420 do you believe you fall under I believe I fall under the last one would you say it to me judicial

00:37:08.520 Okay. You are incorrect, sir.

00:37:12.740 You are incorrect, sir. That's the sheriff.

00:37:17.740 I mean, not to understand, like, you're not a judge.

00:37:22.800 I don't even know. Like, that hurt my brain. It literally hurt my brain.

00:37:29.880 But if an elected official doesn't understand the branch of government that they fall in, and there's only three.

00:37:35.740 there's literally three the executive that's the mayor the governor the president

00:37:41.660 the legislature maybe that's the city council the county council the state like those are the

00:37:47.960 right that's your legislative branch the congress and then just well you know you're not a judge

00:37:54.600 right i mean that that should be the no-brainer okay definitely it's like the sat that's definitely

00:37:59.360 not one of the answers i just got two like and i'm not part of a body right that's the legislative

00:38:05.640 body. So that's got to make me number one, the executive. Holy smokes. I mean, this is,

00:38:13.140 you laugh, but this is where we are. Anyway, I just, my mind is blown.

00:38:20.400 But it's a reminder when you hear these Democrats go off about ISIS, as I said at the beginning of

00:38:24.140 the show, and then you go, oh, that's, this explains a lot. Anyway, thank you guys for

00:38:28.740 having me tonight. I appreciate the honor of sitting in the stone zone for Roger Stone.

00:38:32.440 This is Sean Spicer. You can catch me every day on my YouTube show, Sean Spicer Show. Go to YouTube right now. Sign up for my show. Watch it. My newsletter is at SeanSpicer.com. And please go on Amazon and order Trump 2.0. I really appreciate it. It's a great look at why Trump's second term is so consequential. Thanks to Roger for letting me sit in. Have a great night.

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