The Tucker Carlson Show - November 06, 2026


JFK, UFOs, Atlantis and Mind Control: The Man Who Put World Famous Conspiracies to the Ultimate Test

Tucker Responds to the Republican Midterm Bloodbath

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00:00:30.000 Well, it's been 63 years since President John F. Kennedy was murdered, and we still don't know
00:00:35.160 the full story or even the outline of the full story. Why don't we know that? Why can't we know
00:00:40.640 that? And that's not the only thing we don't know. All over the world, for example, there are huge
00:00:45.020 stone structures built thousands of years ago. We're told that primitive people built them with
00:00:50.500 primitive tools. Really? Have you looked at them? A modern stonemason couldn't do that with modern
00:00:57.420 tools. Why is no one interested in finding out how these things were made? At some point, we
00:01:03.760 stopped being curious. In fact, curiosity became a kind of crime. People just accepted the official
00:01:09.120 explanation, which is no explanation at all, and then they moved on. Well, Chad Robichaux is not
00:01:13.680 willing to move on. He's the host of our new series, Shadow Figures, which investigates some
00:01:18.360 of history's greatest mysteries, from the JFK assassination to lost civilizations to many other
00:01:24.220 topics that we should pause and think about what is that it is fascinating it's worth watching
00:01:28.580 you can watch it now at tuckercarlson.com chad joins us now
00:01:32.700 chad thank you very much for doing this and for making this series which is amazing
00:01:40.720 yeah so you've gone through and reassessed and with some rigor i would say uh logical rigor and
00:01:49.140 science, a bunch of different stories, theories that are, you know, kind of ever present in a lot
00:01:57.920 of people's minds. And I just want to go through some of them and ask what you've learned. And some
00:02:01.640 of these, especially the first one, the JFK assassination, it's like kind of hard to think
00:02:05.180 about what you could add to that, but I think you have added something to it. So what has surprised
00:02:10.320 you or struck you about that story as you've looked at it? Well, I mean, I didn't realize
00:02:15.400 there was that this alternative uh motive theory that uh jeff crookshank who who are our shadow
00:02:21.100 figure the way the show works is a shadow figure is someone that has a theory yeah or a conspiracy
00:02:25.420 uh for a theory of a conspiracy or mystery that's who the shadow figure is so and this one is jeff
00:02:30.120 crookshank and and we didn't want to do a show where we had the theory and we investigated our
00:02:36.540 own theory we went to talk to people that had these theories uh but my frustration has been
00:02:40.620 as a fan of these topics like ancient aliens and things like that has been watching these shows
00:02:44.940 and seeing historians and experts
00:02:47.100 and college professors getting on cameras
00:02:48.740 and changing from face to face
00:02:50.120 and you're just talking about it.
00:02:51.440 I'm like, will somebody go get a shovel
00:02:52.400 and dig a hole?
00:02:53.400 Exactly.
00:02:53.880 No, that's right.
00:02:54.800 It's unsatisfying.
00:02:55.960 Yeah, yeah.
00:02:56.460 I'm like, I could do that.
00:02:57.360 I could get a group of special operations guys
00:02:59.220 who have investigative spirit.
00:03:02.460 They're highly intelligent, highly capable.
00:03:04.420 We have all the modern technology
00:03:06.180 and ability to do that.
00:03:07.040 We can go investigate these things.
00:03:08.660 And so let's talk to these people
00:03:10.780 that have these theories
00:03:11.460 and either prove them or debunk them
00:03:13.300 or find out more information for them.
00:03:14.480 And so Jeff Cruikshank in the JFK episode is an Australian intelligence officer, his whole career in Australian intelligence. And he also, as part of his job, was investigating the JFK assassination. And then he took that from his occupational of actually doing it for this Australian intelligence agency that he was with. He's taken that and became a hobbyist in it.
00:03:38.340 And so he had his own theories of why. I mean, there's tons of reasons why someone would have wanted to kill JFK. You know, Robert Kennedy putting the mafia in jail, us attempting to assassinate Fidel Castro, JFK allowing a coup in South Vietnam, Russia, like all different kind of reasons that could have happened.
00:03:59.460 But one that Jeff Cruikshank presented was his beef, JFK's personal beef with Alan Dulles, Director Dulles of the CIA. And as JFK takes office, he inherits the overthrowing of Cuba from an Eisenhower plan called the Bay of Pigs.
00:04:19.080 and there's this invasion of local nationals that were defectors that we had in control of about
00:04:23.880 1100 of them invaded cuba and it was a complete flop and jfk blamed director dellis on it they
00:04:30.340 said it's one of the reasons that he forced him to resign uh but what crookshank presents is that
00:04:34.600 there were some other reasons to do with uap programs that kennedy wanted access to and uh
00:04:40.760 and kennedy kept pushing for that even as dellis left the cia was still involved in these programs
00:04:45.640 They had to stop Kennedy from pushing to have access to these programs.
00:04:51.260 And Kennedy was specifically concerned that some of these programs would start a war with Russia.
00:04:56.540 This happened in the middle of the Cuban Missile Crisis, right?
00:05:00.760 I mean, with all the nuclear, like the world's on the edge of a nuclear war.
00:05:05.900 And Kennedy's worried about that because there's a program called Project Palladium that, by the way, this is going to come back later.
00:05:15.160 Lee Harvey Oswald was part of in the 50s. And Project Palladium was the spoofing of Russian radio defense system, radar defense systems. So we were like kind of probing their radar defense systems.
00:05:27.760 At the same time, the U.S. military is doing things like these different operations.
00:05:34.880 One of them was Operation Fishbowl, Operation Dominic, where we are actually testing nuclear over the Pacific.
00:05:43.480 We're testing nuclear explosions in the ionosphere.
00:05:46.320 And so as this is all happening, Kennedy's like, hey, this is going to start a nuclear war.
00:05:50.060 I need access to these programs because we need to let Russia know what we're actually doing.
00:05:55.120 And Delos is pushing back.
00:05:56.160 And so the big belief that Cruikshank has is that JFK was killed over this.
00:06:01.440 The fact that Lee Harvey Oswald, who was arrested for the murder and then, of course, famously killed by nightclub owner Jack Ruby two days later.
00:06:09.940 But the fact that he was involved in Project Palladium, is that one of those weird coincidences?
00:06:15.140 Do we think it's relevant?
00:06:16.400 Well, I mean, it goes to the fact that they think he – it could have been a weird coincidence, right?
00:06:21.620 But it also, he was part of the, there's some CIA folks that said that they were following a lookalike in Mexico to pin the assassination of Fidel Castro on Oswald.
00:06:42.260 And so if he was part of that, then they think that it eventually shifted from killing Castro to killing JFK.
00:06:49.780 and so these guys came out and said they didn't want to be part of it this is what crookshank
00:06:53.140 claims and uh and now uh one of the things that that ties to ufos is as operation bluegill uh if
00:07:01.860 you watch the old videos of operation bluegill there's a a video of of a icbm going in air
00:07:07.440 exploding oh this way the first one didn't explode it goes into air and as it's coming
00:07:10.880 back down there's a orb that follows it back down and this is a documented video originally
00:07:15.160 originally this in in our in shadow figures in a show originally the department of energy actually
00:07:19.860 blocked that out they altered the video so you couldn't see the orb we have we actually have the
00:07:23.660 the real footage of the orb being seen and then uh bluegill triple pime the uh as a next operation
00:07:30.320 the icvm goes up and explodes and when it explodes that same orb actually falls now the the people
00:07:35.720 the military people involved in this they were called they actually had seen this orb so many
00:07:39.380 times they were calling it a tag along so they actually had named it and this orb falls down
00:07:43.920 and the naval ship records uh reflected that was actually a ufo recovery of that orb and when they
00:07:50.300 brought it onto the ship the power in the ship went out certain uh some some uh sailors got a
00:07:54.960 radio radiation sickness uh so this is actually documented by the navy these orbs they recovered
00:08:01.140 something whether it was ufo but this crookshank claims it was a ufo so uh this kind of ties to
00:08:08.240 the fact that there was a UFO or UFO UAP programs tied to these operations that Kennedy was wanting
00:08:15.060 access to. Why wouldn't the president of the United States to be able to get access to information in
00:08:20.760 the branch of government he controls? Well, I mean, that's been kind of UAP. I mean, I don't
00:08:27.320 think President Trump has access to these programs right now. I think there's a secret
00:08:31.060 segment at part of the government that has worked outside of congressional control for quite some
00:08:36.020 time and if you look at uh something like the majestic 12 which is if you know what the majestic
00:08:40.280 12 is true i'm sure you do for those listening uh president truman started the majestic 12
00:08:44.560 to investigate uap activity uh it was it was briefed to eisenhower but no one since uh including
00:08:52.300 including jfk who he wanted access to this information about this majestic 12 or mj 12
00:08:57.240 and so i think i think jfk was probably the first president that this was kept from and uh and they
00:09:04.300 did successfully keep it from him now whether they killed him over it or not right this is
00:09:08.660 speculation about shadow figure jeff crookshank but but it was kept from jfk and uh and has been
00:09:13.840 kept i believe from every president since why would a president put up with that i know we're
00:09:17.920 going far afield here yeah i just kid that's not self-government if the guy who's been elected by
00:09:22.260 the population to run the country can't see information in the government he controls
00:09:26.160 then how is it a democracy it's not it's not i mean we we uh there certainly uh from what i've
00:09:32.760 And I know you've done an extensive amount of research in this too, but from what I've researched as well, I mean, this has been an issue for many presidents, many presidents where they personally get in the White House. 0.97
00:09:41.740 And I mean, if I was president, the first thing I want to see is I want to see the grays. 0.98
00:09:45.200 I want to see the aliens. 1.00
00:09:45.840 I want to see the aircraft.
00:09:46.600 I want to see these things.
00:09:48.380 And they've been stonewalled to see these things and including members of Congress right now.
00:09:54.260 I mean, right now you have members of Congress like Burleson and Brichette who are trying to go see these sites and they're not getting access to see these sites.
00:10:02.760 And, you know, there's somewhere within our government for obviously a very long time, although he sends back French Truman, they begin to segment off a part of the government that people don't have access to, including the president of the United States.
00:10:17.100 And I agree with you. 0.89
00:10:17.820 I don't think it's a democracy.
00:10:18.480 That just means it's a separate government.
00:10:20.000 It's a separate government.
00:10:20.780 Exactly.
00:10:21.000 Right.
00:10:21.180 There's a country.
00:10:22.020 And by the way, we could go way into this, but there's money being siphoned off to fund these programs.
00:10:29.820 Of course.
00:10:30.140 A tremendous amount. When you have an imbalance of budgets like we have, right, it would be pretty easy to siphon off money to run these programs.
00:10:36.440 Yeah. Well, I know the rigorous annual audits they undergo must find those imbalances.
00:10:41.380 Yeah, right. Okay. So, sorry. Back to the Kennedy assassination. So, is Crookshank's belief that Oswald acted alone?
00:10:49.440 No. He believes that he's part of a CIA assassination team. Now, whether that was official or rogue, he doesn't really make claim to that.
00:10:59.180 But he does believe this is the same assassination team that was being used and trained to assassinate Fidel Castro. Again, they were in Mexico having a Leo Harvey Oswald look-alike, filming him going to different Soviet embassies in different locations to really plot for him to be the patsy for a Fidel Castro assassination.
00:11:26.000 and they shifted the target to JFK. 0.57
00:11:29.080 That's his claim.
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00:12:40.200 Who does he think the other shooters were?
00:12:42.000 Well, he believes there was a team,
00:12:43.220 and he believes there was two points of trajectory
00:12:45.620 for redundancy, which if you had that kind of target,
00:12:49.620 you would want, if it's a real assassination attempt,
00:12:52.660 not just some crazy person,
00:12:54.160 You would want some redundancies. And so that would be any type of military operation that you would have that. And so he believes that whether it was Oswald or someone else was in the Texas Book Depository building, sixth floor, and had that trajectory of shots.
00:13:12.180 Now, you know, I personally believe that Oswald was one of the shooters.
00:13:15.420 Was there two shooters in the Book Depository building?
00:13:17.760 I don't know.
00:13:18.740 There was at least one there.
00:13:20.460 But we also believe a different trajectory, that there was one in the trajectory of the
00:13:24.940 Grassy Knoll.
00:13:26.120 Crookshank believed that specifically there was someone hiding in the storm drain of the
00:13:30.760 Grassy Knoll.
00:13:31.220 So that's his claim.
00:13:31.920 His claim is that there's two shooters, a minimum of two shooters, one in the sixth
00:13:35.360 floor of the Texas Book Depository building, where Oswald was alleged to be.
00:13:39.320 and the second would be at the storm drain of the grassy knoll and so for us we this is a theory and
00:13:46.400 we want to test this theory and to test that theory i put together what i believe to be some
00:13:50.900 of the best special operations snipers of our generation uh led by mark green who is a navy
00:13:55.840 seal uh sniper but he's also the commander of sniper school for the navy seals very uh intelligent
00:14:01.840 military officer and sniper, and we had some others, Dennis Price, Colton Hill, Cody Alford,
00:14:10.240 MARSOC, Marine Force Recon, MARSOC, Scout Sniper, incredibly experienced snipers. We brought some
00:14:15.700 of the best guys we could to actually recreate those scenarios and test those shots.
00:14:20.520 We're going to play a clip of what you just described.
00:14:22.660 It was time to see how hard it would be to replicate what the government says Oswald did.
00:14:28.300 shoot at Kennedy three times, allegedly hitting him twice
00:14:32.060 with a bolt-action rifle while traveling in a moving vehicle. 0.54
00:14:35.500 All right, spotter, talk to me.
00:14:39.020 Hey, we got a target in the vehicle, 12 o'clock, 100 yards.
00:14:44.460 Roger that, 12 o'clock, 100 yards.
00:14:46.460 All right, six miles per hour, quarter value, hold slight left when ready.
00:14:50.220 Six miles per hour, quarter value, holding left.
00:14:57.260 Shooter's ready.
00:14:58.300 Shooter ready, stand by.
00:15:06.300 Starting winch.
00:15:19.300 Hold right shoulder. 0.99
00:15:23.300 Hit. 0.99
00:15:24.300 Nice, head shot. 1.00
00:15:29.340 Yeah! 0.76
00:15:31.400 She would cheer or no?
00:15:33.200 All right.
00:15:33.560 I think you should say, oh, no.
00:15:34.380 It's kind of morbid to cheer.
00:15:35.180 It looks like a...
00:15:35.940 Am I wrong?
00:15:37.320 It was a good hit?
00:15:38.840 Yeah.
00:15:39.220 It blew it apart.
00:15:40.740 It's the bottom right of the skull.
00:15:42.840 So Mark nailed it.
00:15:43.880 Three shots, eight seconds.
00:15:45.820 The only thing to consider is Mark did have Dennis as a spotter.
00:15:50.120 Supposedly, Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.
00:15:52.420 So what did we learn?
00:15:53.000 so we learned that uh that the the warren commission by the way which was 1964 warren
00:16:00.780 commission was the investigation of the gfk assassination by the way in 2023 did it a gallup
00:16:07.020 poll and and 65 americans don't buy that story uh no surprise there but uh but i'd love to meet
00:16:13.460 the 35 who do who do yeah they go along with everything right uh but but um one of the things
00:16:19.440 specifically that that our shooters disagree with our snipers disagree with was was some of the
00:16:24.680 forensics and the autopsy that this was a rear entry wound and a a rear a rear lower uh lower
00:16:33.120 head entry wound and the exit wound was from the from the front right skull yes we believe we believe
00:16:38.660 that to be from assessment that that was actually reverse that the entry room was in the front of
00:16:42.660 the skull and exited out of the back uh this has been debated beyond us right so we so since we
00:16:48.780 believed that we that aligned with what crookshank's theory was so we re-shot it first thing we want
00:16:53.560 to see was could oswald successfully pull off eight shot uh three shots in eight seconds we
00:16:59.180 believed he could uh and and we were able to do that pretty easily um six six uh six floor uh 60
00:17:06.300 to 90 yards was the assessment of how far it was a moving vehicle uh and and to belta at least get
00:17:12.780 one headshot from there we were able to reshoot that no problem oswald was capable using the
00:17:18.040 carcano rifle the same we use the carcano rifle and uh in the other was the magic bullet that we
00:17:22.760 want to see you could could that bullet actually go through uh jfk and enter the governor uh now
00:17:29.340 you're talking about going through soft tissue of the neck uh coming out of jfk's front of his neck
00:17:33.480 going into the governor going through his through his body uh going through his wrists and then
00:17:37.300 lodging in his knee could that bullet actually do that i could say right away definitively
00:17:41.200 yes there's nothing magic about that bullet you have a you have a 7.5 millimeter bullet full metal
00:17:47.060 jacket moving at 2000 feet per second in excess of 2000 feet per second at 60 to 90 yards it still
00:17:52.560 has the velocity to do that so nothing's magic about that i think the only person that uh that
00:17:59.000 heard it uh audibly no one really heard it audibly uh we see we see him uh slump over and he's leaning
00:18:05.740 and we see the uh the bullet which we believe entered here and and exited here and so the
00:18:11.760 trajectory of that would have had to would have had to line up as he passed the storm drain you
00:18:17.620 get about at a vehicle moving anywhere from probably nine to 11 miles an hour as it's passing
00:18:22.040 there you if someone's in that storm drain they're going to have like a one to two second window to
00:18:27.140 get that shot off and where's it going to hit because you can't control if you're in that
00:18:31.020 storm drain you can't control uh that's amount of amount of uh the window you're going to have to
00:18:36.600 shoot from so we put cody alford in the storm drain with a pistol and we rolled it across and
00:18:40.860 And when he came across, he had a split second to make the shot.
00:18:44.300 And when the shot went off and we had that dummy position, it hit exactly in the spot of the skull that we believe was the entry wound for JFK in the third and final.
00:18:54.500 How far was the storm drain from the vehicle-ish?
00:18:57.660 Ish, 10 to 15 feet.
00:19:00.100 Close.
00:19:00.280 If you imagine just a vehicle driving in the lane next to the storm drain, that's it.
00:19:04.100 and if you're sitting in that storm drain which is it's like a uh an urban area storm drain yeah
00:19:10.220 it's a very small window and uh you had to be waiting yeah yeah so you had to be waiting for
00:19:15.300 it to happen and you probably was were cued or you he would have heard other shots right that
00:19:20.180 the shooter would have either been cued by radio or he would have heard other shots as signal shots
00:19:24.820 and and he he knew the vehicle was coming and uh and when it hit i think we all conclusively knew
00:19:30.540 when it hit because it hit so precise to what the forensics and autopsy show like right in the in
00:19:36.460 the exact same spot and we we had positioned that dummy to have that same leaning angle as jfk was 0.94
00:19:41.200 holding his neck and so we believe to be we believe that that crookshanks maybe not motive
00:19:47.520 of why it happened but the theory of of a shooter in the storm drain for that third and final fatal
00:19:53.220 shot was 100 correct and and and this is nothing about opinion or his opinion about this is math
00:19:59.840 it's ballistics and trajectory uh and and we just did a math project and based on the ballistics
00:20:05.200 and trajectory would be that third final and fatal shot came from even if the theory was correct
00:20:10.440 even if the theory was correct that that that this was the entry wound and this was the exit wound
00:20:15.060 the trajectory doesn't match the the sixth floor of the book depository building so it couldn't
00:20:21.020 have came from there if if if the if we're wrong about the entry and exit then that shot that third
00:20:26.760 final shot did not come from the
00:20:28.720 textbook depository bill that came from somewhere else
00:20:30.640 but we believe that the entry was the front
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00:21:54.020 So episode two is about something that most of us were here for, and that is the disappearance of the famous Malaysian airliner 12 or so years ago.
00:22:04.820 What happened to it?
00:22:06.660 Well, I don't think we still know, even after my episode.
00:22:10.500 But Ashton Forbes is a theorist, and that's who we interview on Malaysian Flight 370.
00:22:19.800 It is a really interesting theory, and that theory is that a government program intercepts Malaysia Flight 370 using orb technology to transport it to a different location, a secret CIA military base.
00:22:36.220 And it sounds crazy.
00:22:38.060 However, if the video, which the video is in debate, if the video that he shows is real, then certainly it's plausible, right?
00:22:49.180 you see so first of all on the flight you have you have 20 uh semiconductor usually when a plane
00:22:54.700 goes down you're like who's on the plane like you want to know like the plane went down who's on
00:22:58.760 this plane 20 semiconductor engineers that are part of a of government program flying from malaysia
00:23:04.240 to beijing uh so there's a little bit of a motive there like where are these guys going are they
00:23:10.040 defecting going to give u.s technology to china and and so the u.s military would or the cia or
00:23:15.500 US military want to gain control of the aircraft and so how do they do that well they uh what
00:23:20.280 what Ashton alleges is that the plane takes off and after the plane takes off smoke uh starts
00:23:25.820 coming from the back of the aircraft and the plane lowers itself uh it lowers itself and and
00:23:31.280 a naval vessel contacts the pilot and says your plane's on fire uh we need you to go to this
00:23:38.020 location and we're going to do emergency rescue and so the plane uh on fire theory is something
00:23:45.480 that we needed to test because we didn't believe that uh that could be a plane on a fire that would
00:23:50.140 last uh over an hour uh to be able to make it to a rendezvous point uh you first of all you can't
00:23:56.880 have a the the or the the plane fire was said to be because of these these lithium batteries were
00:24:04.700 put on this plane, unmanifested. I think I got to go back and look at the number, but I think it's
00:24:10.760 like 200 pounds of lithium battery put on this plane, unmanifested right before. Now, lithium
00:24:15.520 fire can't be put out with water. In fact, the aircraft don't even have water suppression systems
00:24:20.100 because you can't carry that much water to put it out. And so if a lithium battery fire took place
00:24:25.420 in an aircraft, it would have went down immediately. And so we wanted to be able to prove that theory.
00:24:29.440 So we, we got a scale down one in 30 to scale aircraft and we lit it on fire to see how
00:24:34.460 long it would last and it lasted minutes.
00:24:37.040 So that, that, that, that was not a scenario that we believed it was possible.
00:24:41.160 And so we believe that it would have been a, there would have been some kind of maybe
00:24:46.300 diversion, an incinerary device that created smoke just to be able to create a, that scenario
00:24:51.820 to gain control of an aircraft.
00:24:53.000 uh forbes claims that that then the pilot complied went to went out towards where the the naval ship
00:25:01.080 was and then was intercepted by uh a predator drone you can see the feed on the video you can
00:25:06.740 see part of the predator the predator drone on the video and uh and and there's another satellite
00:25:11.560 video of it from two different angles so you have two different angles showing the same thing you
00:25:15.840 see a plane flying with smoking on the back of it and you see one orb come in and a second orb come
00:25:20.980 in and a third arm come in these arms start circling the aircraft uh in a in a weird pattern
00:25:25.460 a very not a weird pattern a very uh um a synchronized pattern and then they flash a
00:25:32.120 flash goes and the plane disappears one of the interesting things he brought brought up with
00:25:36.440 this was that that uh the plane reappears near the the cia military base and and when it uh when
00:25:45.960 it does people spot a burning plane there's eyewitnesses of a burning plane going through
00:25:50.860 there in both the disappearance location and the reappearance location, which are a thousand
00:25:54.620 miles away. Uh, also the cell phones on the, the cell phones start pinging, uh, because it's low
00:26:00.660 enough for the cell phones to start pinging. So that in both locations, you have cell phones
00:26:03.820 pinging from both locations. Is that a, is that a fact? Uh, that's his claim. His claim. I haven't
00:26:08.160 seen a report. This is his claim that the cell phones are pinging in both locations that they,
00:26:11.900 and that the family members, there's statements from the family members that the cell phones
00:26:16.140 continue to ring for up to a week uh so when you call a phone if it's in the bottom of the ocean
00:26:21.680 it's not going to ring it's going to write the voicemail but if you call the phone and it's still
00:26:25.060 um you know in service it's going to ring and go to voicemail and so family members claim those
00:26:30.180 phones ring for up to a week and uh and so his his claim is that some sort of some sort of
00:26:37.060 teleporting technology and these orbs were able to capture that plane and move it to a different
00:26:42.540 location what happened the rest of the people on the plane we never heard from them again this has
00:26:48.960 been searched like for years for debris and there's been small parts of debris some people say it was
00:26:54.500 placed there but not certainly not in a finding the aircraft and there's no evidence where the
00:27:00.340 aircraft would have went so i don't know what i think i'm skeptical though of that theory yeah
00:27:06.660 that's that that actually that that actually is one of the ones i'm i'm slightly skeptical about
00:27:10.480 as well uh the video is is very much in question uh ashton forbes spends his life defending this
00:27:15.060 video we did have a hollywood uh producer come on and look at the video and say that the video
00:27:19.520 was was not doctored because of the way the orbs go through the the chemtrail and the the or the
00:27:26.840 smoke in the back of the air chemtrail the smoke in the back of the aircraft uh he said they
00:27:30.700 couldn't have been doctored because of that uh however we couldn't test that i don't have a orb
00:27:36.120 weapon system to test.
00:27:37.400 Yes.
00:27:37.700 What we could test
00:27:38.240 was the fire theory.
00:27:40.480 And we didn't believe
00:27:41.380 that there was a real fire
00:27:42.740 on an aircraft.
00:27:43.380 We believed that it was
00:27:44.000 a diversion to put on.
00:27:45.740 The official claim
00:27:47.560 is that there was
00:27:48.000 a lithium battery.
00:27:49.760 But if there's
00:27:50.180 lithium battery fire,
00:27:51.360 it wouldn't have made it.
00:27:53.260 Yeah, and you'd think
00:27:53.900 that if the plane was on fire,
00:27:54.760 there'd be some kind of
00:27:55.420 mayday from the pilot.
00:27:57.300 Yeah.
00:27:58.400 Of which there's no record.
00:28:00.260 That's right.
00:28:01.440 Is Atlantis a real place?
00:28:03.640 I believe the proverbial
00:28:04.740 city of Atlantis
00:28:05.920 is a real place uh episode three is probably one of my favorite episodes uh i love the ocean i
00:28:11.700 love diving and uh and i and i love uh i love the idea of of the pre pre-diluvial or anti-diluvial
00:28:19.220 world before the flood um i believe everything by the way in my search for all these mysteries
00:28:24.040 and conspiracies i'm a christian like you and uh so everything for me begins in a garden it begins
00:28:29.420 at creation and and uh and as you look at look at uh as a look at our world the you know war and
00:28:37.080 and division and and all these things going on in the world today i think it all begins there
00:28:42.000 uh genesis in genesis 3 15 it talks about uh it talks about you know the in the garden and and
00:28:48.380 in satan deceiving the woman and and adam and eve uh taking a bite of the fruit and deceiving uh
00:28:54.380 uh rebelling against god but then in in genesis 3 15 it says that the that there's gonna be
00:29:00.560 eminity that between the woman and and the serpent between her offspring and his offspring this is
00:29:08.200 christians call this the first gospel because in that short phrase it tells it tells it talks about
00:29:12.820 the deception it talks about the rebellion it talks about the curse it talks about a spiritual
00:29:17.580 war it talks about the hardship with that that uh that uh the seed of of satan is going to bruise
00:29:24.660 the heel of of those seed of the woman uh but it says the the seed of the woman's going to crush
00:29:29.660 the head of the serpent uh which is the i believe the cross and and the redemption of mankind so
00:29:36.520 you had this amazing thing laid out christians call this the first gospel uh laid out in genesis
00:29:41.560 315 and i think it all it all began it all begins there if you jump from that to uh genesis 6 and
00:29:47.800 you talk about uh genesis 6 is basically the introduction to many uh leap from there to the
00:29:54.060 book of enoch but it talks about uh the sons of god angels breeding with women and creating giants
00:30:00.680 and so this is the pre-diluvional world the pre-flood world that we that we live in and
00:30:04.560 while that's really important to atlantis and some of these topics is because if you if you
00:30:08.620 take the leap to the book of enoch and i know a lot of christians would be like don't read enoch
00:30:12.040 well we read millions of people have read rick warren's books and john eldridge and all these
00:30:16.640 are the books reading something outside the bible this is not sacrilege to read those things i think
00:30:21.400 you should take it in context and anything i read by the way i contrast the gospel if it contradicts
00:30:25.400 the gospel then i'll read it i'll throw it out but i've read book the book of enoch and by the
00:30:29.760 way it was it was found with the dead sea scrolls in 1947 it's referenced for maybe five uh hebrew
00:30:35.120 Hebrews, Genesis, Jude, Luke, and maybe Peter is a little bit of reference to the book of Enoch.
00:30:41.000 It's referenced throughout the Bible.
00:30:43.180 I think Jesus slightly makes a reference to it.
00:30:45.920 Some could debate that.
00:30:47.360 It was in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.
00:30:52.180 So it's a very—many people take this book seriously, but it doesn't contradict the gospel.
00:31:01.680 Well, in fact, for me reading it, it actually really helps me understand the spiritual war that we're all engaged in very well.
00:31:07.900 And it helps me understand things like the flood and understanding the flood being an act of mercy and not an act of harshness.
00:31:13.680 So I really think the book of Enoch really helps me understand my perspective on this.
00:31:18.180 But when you think about that, the book of Enoch in Genesis 6, it gives you a glimpse into the prediluvial world.
00:31:25.920 And a lot of things we talk about in mystery and conspiracy, such as you and I talked earlier, the megalithic structures.
00:31:30.840 Yes.
00:31:31.060 if you don't understand what the world was like before the flood is you really have no way to
00:31:36.740 make sense of some of these things and if you go into the book of enoch when it talks about the
00:31:41.340 watchers who are the 200 angels over watching earth they they descend onto the earth at mount
00:31:47.760 hernon and they want to take human wives to to copulate and and make offspring which we know to
00:31:54.000 be the giants nephilim uh and to take those wives they had to trade a dowry to the fathers of those
00:32:01.040 those women, and trade, and they're trading technology, ways of war, weapons of war, the
00:32:07.300 ability to make medicines, sorcery. 1.00
00:32:09.960 They're trading all these things, including probably the ability to build these things.
00:32:14.560 They're getting forbidden knowledge and technology. 0.82
00:32:17.220 I believe that the ancient world, in this interbreeding between man and woman, I mean 0.92
00:32:24.120 Between a woman and an angel, I believe that was to go back to Genesis 315, to that seed war between the sons of the devil, the sons of Satan, and the offspring of the woman. 0.59
00:32:38.340 Because Jesus had a bloodline that began from the garden.
00:32:41.880 And if Satan could, his counter move to this was to infect that bloodline.
00:32:45.160 And so about a thousand years, they had this intermingling between the angelic beings and inhumans.
00:32:53.520 and for about a thousand years that bloodline's getting infected so when you talk about like the
00:32:57.680 flood something like the flood and think that the flood's really harsh well i don't think it was an
00:33:01.100 act of mercy because uh redemption was in the bloodline through jesus and we had to protect
00:33:05.920 that so god comes in and and by the way man's petitioning uh petitioning to god to to rescue
00:33:13.520 them from the giants and so that flood i believe was for that when you talk about like something
00:33:17.180 like noah uh being pure well noah's a human so he was he wasn't pure of sin but maybe his bloodline
00:33:23.020 and the aid on that boat's bloodline was pure.
00:33:25.440 And so I believe those act of mercy, the flood,
00:33:27.100 and I believe all that sets place before the flood
00:33:30.200 gives a picture of what that world was like.
00:33:33.520 And so you have things like the megalith structures
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00:33:36.420 I believe those things were created during that time.
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00:34:30.740 So for people who don't follow this,
00:34:32.500 I think what you're saying is that our view,
00:34:35.140 the conventional view of history, which is linear,
00:34:37.800 we start off in the caves, hunting and gathering,
00:34:41.400 then agriculture's invented,
00:34:42.680 and then millennia later, the steam engine,
00:34:45.940 and now we're at AI.
00:34:47.340 but it's all kind of like that right that's not really real i don't think so i think i don't
00:34:53.240 think we've and because there's archaeological evidence that no one has sufficiently explained
00:34:57.800 using that right model yeah and one of my favorite people to follow in this is tim alberino he wrote
00:35:03.620 a book called uh birthright it's incredible by the way everyone should read it if you're interested
00:35:07.540 in this and everyone should be interested in this because it is our history you can't deny like you
00:35:11.740 said that the fact that the the guys at pyramids have structures below that no one can explain
00:35:17.140 I mean, you can't explain even the megalith structures throughout America.
00:35:21.340 So we have to know where they come from.
00:35:24.280 We have to understand where they come from.
00:35:25.840 Because if the people who built them based on radiocarbon dating, we think we know.
00:35:31.920 Well, they're certainly ancient.
00:35:32.860 We know that.
00:35:33.700 Right.
00:35:34.280 And so we don't believe that people who lived at the period when these were built had the technology to build what they clearly built.
00:35:40.440 No, I've stood in front of the megalith structures of Machu Picchu. 0.93
00:35:44.600 When you stand there looking at a 300-ton rock that's carved at such precision, it's like the Inca didn't build this.
00:35:52.580 Maybe they built stuff on top of it, but the Inca didn't build this. 0.74
00:35:55.000 Like some primitive little mountain tribal person didn't build this.
00:35:59.300 There has to be a pre-existing – they had help from someone, and they probably did it with pre-existing technology. 0.96
00:36:04.700 I don't believe, by the way, we've – and you said this.
00:36:07.320 I don't believe we've evolved.
00:36:09.360 I think we've devolved.
00:36:11.080 Well, a lot of those structures,
00:36:12.340 Mushroom Peaches is a great example,
00:36:13.580 but the megaliths in Jordan,
00:36:15.860 the mounds in Illinois,
00:36:17.660 like, but some of the stonework,
00:36:19.880 we don't, there are no masons today
00:36:21.500 who could build it. 1.00
00:36:22.660 No.
00:36:23.200 So like, what does that tell you?
00:36:24.400 In 2026, no, with modern tools,
00:36:26.960 you couldn't build that.
00:36:27.820 Right.
00:36:28.620 So no one has explained any of this stuff.
00:36:31.560 I'm just amazed by how incurious
00:36:33.960 official institutions are in this.
00:36:38.740 Like, how can National Geographic
00:36:40.160 or the smithsonian like if i'm the editor of national geographic i'm i don't know i'm assigning
00:36:45.480 piece after piece like how were the pyramids built how they get the stones 300 feet in the air like
00:36:49.520 how did that happen no one even asks and it's considered to be wrong to ask like you said even
00:36:54.700 curious and uh even in in even in a church world which you know i'm in i'm very much in very much
00:37:00.220 in the christian church world it's it seems to be like pushed back against to talk about some of
00:37:05.000 this stuff why i don't i don't know it's very peculiar i i think the answer why is because
00:37:09.040 it's a spiritual part of a spiritual war and an influence to don't go there we don't want to go
00:37:13.840 there because because there's answers there anytime anytime someone tells you but it's my
00:37:17.320 experience i think probably yours too anytime tells you somebody tells you don't go there
00:37:21.020 don't ask there it's because there's an answer there of course and and i think there's there's
00:37:25.080 an answer there there's an answer in our history in the prediluvial world to understand how many
00:37:29.200 of these things are or are you know are on this earth and and how they're they're built and i
00:37:34.060 believe there was ancient technologies that that existed before the flood that the flood wiped out
00:37:38.380 And we see that the megalithic structures are the remnants of that.
00:37:42.520 And I believe Atlantis, the proverbial lost city of Atlantis, is one of those things.
00:37:47.840 And there's a lot that goes into it that suggests it's in the Bermuda Triangle region.
00:37:54.320 And there would have been global access to that location.
00:38:00.040 And many –
00:38:01.000 So Atlantis in myth, lore, history is a sunken island.
00:38:07.140 It's a sunken island, yeah.
00:38:08.380 And, you know, it's only about – but the Bimini Road, which is where we go to, is only about 20 feet deep.
00:38:16.480 So not very sunken.
00:38:17.920 It's 20 feet deep.
00:38:18.820 You know, tides change and the world changes, especially if you go beyond a flood, right?
00:38:23.260 Right.
00:38:23.840 So once the glaciers melted 14,000 years ago, of course, they were holding a lot of the Earth's water.
00:38:29.120 And so sea levels rose dramatically when they melted.
00:38:32.960 Yeah.
00:38:33.900 So, yeah.
00:38:34.640 And so I think – and look, every – take my Christianity out of it.
00:38:39.480 Every theological group throughout history points to a global cataclysm, a flood.
00:38:46.720 And so it's not restricted to Christians. 0.93
00:38:49.580 We all believe that a flood took place. 0.95
00:38:51.420 Of course.
00:38:52.060 Gilgamesh talks about it.
00:38:53.640 Yeah, no, right.
00:38:54.640 So a flood did take place, and this – beyond that cataclysm, our history was – some of this history was erased.
00:39:01.700 And so even if you go into like Greek mythology, you know, Atlantis ties to Greek mythology, all of it kind of points to the same thing. I think Greek mythology is probably a offshoot of the stories of the Watchers. And so I believe Atlantis was probably a real place. The proverbial city of Atlantis was a real place. I believe that it was occupied by angels, fallen angels. And I believe that there was advanced technologies that were there.
00:39:26.340 And we believe that also there have been routes to it because any kind of major, right, New York City has tons of routes going in New York City.
00:39:34.240 So there have been routes to it.
00:39:35.080 And one of those routes that people believe in is the Bimini Road, which comes from Bimini Island.
00:39:40.160 In the Bahamas.
00:39:41.140 In the Bahamas.
00:39:41.720 Now, people say that the dispute to it is that it's naturally occurring features through erosion that makes it look like it's megalithic structures.
00:39:50.800 under the so uh as we spoke to our our in fact tim abrino who just mentioned our shadow figure on
00:39:56.500 this this was tim abrino and he tells a just beautiful story leading up to the proverbial
00:40:01.500 city of atlantis and why he believes uh that it could have it could be in the in the bermuda
00:40:08.280 triangle and there are the islands in bahamas and so we go there to investigate and we're looking
00:40:13.640 at an area that has just been uncovered so it hadn't been explored yet and uh and and we're
00:40:18.320 looking for what would be things that don't naturally occur in nature right angles shimming
00:40:23.480 of stone to level them off pillowing from poured stone and so these are some specific things that
00:40:29.340 we're looking for and uh and we find some pretty right angles do not exist in nature they don't
00:40:34.480 especially when they're consistently right angles you have multiple right angles making squares
00:40:38.460 rectangles uh you know any geometrical patterns don't exist in nature uh particularly uh pillowing
00:40:45.100 which would be the pouring of stone uh when when you pour stone and as it settles it pillows at
00:40:51.620 the bottom and then if you're taking multiple different stones and you want them to be level
00:40:55.920 where you're going to put some structure underneath it to shim it to make it the same level and so
00:41:00.060 those kind of things that aren't naturally occurring in nature so these are the things
00:41:03.320 we're looking for we found several stones uh both on land and below the surface of the water by
00:41:10.740 diving that revealed shimming, pillowing, and right angles. And additionally, kind of letting
00:41:17.620 some of the parts of the episode out, we found some drill holes that were geometrically consistent,
00:41:24.100 patterned drill holes and a stone that certainly doesn't happen in nature. And also the captain
00:41:32.360 who lives in the area was shocked by this. We had a local diver with us who's been diving that area
00:41:39.360 their whole life and was had seen many of the uh bimini road much of the bimini road before but
00:41:45.100 this new area he was he was blown away by it as well so we feel like we really found something
00:41:49.460 there now uh where it goes where bimini road goes does it go to lost lost city uh we don't know but
00:41:56.380 uh tim timothy aberrino said it's perfect you know you don't build roads to nowhere
00:41:59.720 if there's a road it's going somewhere so based on your investigation into this there's no question
00:42:05.480 in your mind that this road was constructed this is not naturally occurring yeah i can't speak for
00:42:10.320 all of eminy because it's like lots of stones there but the stones that we looked at uh were
00:42:15.600 certainly were certainly not naturally occurring in nature the right angles the shimming the
00:42:20.460 pillowing the uh the drill holes this is not something that naturally occurs in nature and so
00:42:25.440 i'm i'm certain from what i've seen and the stones that we looked at those those were man-made
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00:43:37.980 So once you discover something like this, are there teams of archaeologists from America's preeminent universities who descend on the site to find out more?
00:43:46.620 I hope so. That's why we came to TCN, to learn about it.
00:43:50.420 But of course, the answer is no, right?
00:43:52.500 I mean, it's no.
00:43:53.540 No one seems to care.
00:43:55.660 And this is profound.
00:43:57.660 Like, uh, I don't know why, like, look, we're, we're a group of former special, we're not geologists, we're not archaeologists, I'm not a historian. We're a group of special operations guys that's super curious about this and went out and looked.
00:44:11.720 And we found it pretty quick.
00:44:12.780 You'd think everyone would be curious about it. 0.97
00:44:13.680 I'm totally ignorant.
00:44:14.820 I have no special knowledge of any kind, really, about anything.
00:44:18.020 But I'm just curious, and I just don't understand why people who are in the business of digging up ancient ruins,
00:44:28.720 archaeologists, or in the business of writing about those ruins, historians,
00:44:33.160 why they're not leaping on this stuff and why they're so reflexively opposed to all of it.
00:44:40.040 One of the things we were joking about is what they actually care about is when they see a bunch of Neanderthals flipping over, flipping over rocks that they would normally have brushes at.
00:44:48.140 We're on the bottom ocean flipping these rocks over.
00:44:51.840 uh so if your theory that um genesis 3 and the book of enoch are not just folklore but are
00:45:02.460 describing physical reality if if it's if that's true if you're right then there would be there
00:45:08.580 would be actual physical giants i mean that's what those accounts describe giants right men
00:45:13.500 of renown i think genesis 3 refers to as men of old men of renown yeah yeah so successful the most
00:45:20.140 successful people of the time were actually not fully human they were half breeds that's what
00:45:24.360 the bible says that's what christianity and judaism believe as a matter of doctrine so there would be
00:45:30.940 like archaeological evidence of giants right well is there every time from my research and this is
00:45:38.500 something i've been very interested in and uh and and those who i've spoken to who have spent their
00:45:43.360 life researching this every time there is evidence of giants it goes to the smithsonian and never be
00:45:48.320 seen again um uh which is quite strange no they've denied it yes that means much but do you think
00:45:56.180 that's true the smithsonian has suppressed archaeological evidence for whatever reason
00:46:02.200 i've spoke to several several people even beyond the physical evidence that we have today
00:46:06.280 if we believe the bible and believe every part of the bible the bible talks about giants it talks
00:46:10.280 about goliath yeah uh and talks about other giants in the bible so if you can't believe part of the
00:46:14.380 one i believe all of it uh so so i believe it i believe it covered a cover so i believe
00:46:18.820 giants did exist uh i believe that uh i believe the you know modern day stories are true as well
00:46:25.580 i believe the giants of the giant of kandahar is a true story in fact tim abrino interviewed the
00:46:31.720 pilot in private uh that flew flew them out so it's a firsthand testimony there so i believe
00:46:37.200 for those of us who are not familiar with the the giant of kandahar kandahar afghanistan kandahar
00:46:42.180 afghanistan uh there was a story you've been to afghanistan i've been to afghanistan a few times
00:46:46.040 eight tours in afghanistan yeah i've been to afghanistan eight times and i went back for
00:46:50.760 the evacuations and uh yeah so i have some some time in afghanistan however i didn't see any
00:46:55.360 giants there but um the story of uh of is is some marines getting getting this gunfight with this
00:47:05.360 giant and this is in the 2000s during g what during g what and a team goes back and actually
00:47:11.600 a team goes back because these Marines didn't come back out team goes back and and and actually
00:47:15.920 kill this giant and and uh and it's brought into a facility and and uh and the U.S. aircraft
00:47:24.240 flies the body back with the the idea is the U.S. Marines fought a giant around 2001 in Afghanistan
00:47:34.540 around 2001 Afghanistan that's that's that's the story uh I haven't talked to any personally talked
00:47:39.240 any service members that were involved in that uh however there was a team went back to go in and
00:47:45.480 see what happened with these marines and they end up getting in a gunfight and kill this kill this
00:47:49.900 giant uh and then this giant was flown back to the united states uh by a by u.s air force aircraft
00:47:58.380 i think i think it was a c-17 aircraft if i remember correctly and tim albarino interviewed
00:48:02.940 the pilot so so i've had a personal conversation with tim albarino who interviewed the pilot
00:48:08.400 and the pilot confirmed there was a dead giant has not publicly confirmed it but but uh but to
00:48:14.860 tim arborino has has confirmed it and so for him to tell me that that he had this interview
00:48:20.260 personal interview with the pilot that flew this giant out i believe him and so so i believe i
00:48:27.460 believe the modern day uh there is modern day giants that exist there's some parts of the world
00:48:32.680 in fact i won't say where but tim arborino and i are actually going to go investigate some
00:48:36.120 a place that has some some current uh firsthand sightings uh and it's a very very very remote
00:48:43.340 part of the world and so we're going to be going uh to look more but but i do believe uh this
00:48:49.740 exists and if you if you look at the nephilim uh which is the the offspring of of human women
00:48:56.540 and and the fallen angels a lot of people would bring that to the modern day sasquatch and big
00:49:03.020 foot which you start talking about this it sounds crazy however uh no one's found bigfoot yet
00:49:08.140 including us and we did two episode two episodes and shadow figures on it and i believe that uh
00:49:13.680 the reason no one's found bigfoot is because it's not some primitive ape it's actually intelligent
00:49:19.120 uh ancient intelligent being and not one uh but but but a species of them that whether they're
00:49:28.020 elusive uh elusive for whatever motivation they're elusive for but uh but but that's why we've not
00:49:35.220 been able to spot him or see him uh you know get fuzzy videos and with that with game cameras all
00:49:40.460 over right you're a hunter there's game cameras all over the world why don't we have a picture
00:49:43.560 of bigfoot and i believe because it's not some just primitive ape some wild animal i was just
00:49:48.020 thinking that exact same thing yeah i mean there are game cameras everywhere everywhere right why
00:49:51.980 would you so that's that's what i believe now now maybe it's just so segmented and so small in there
00:49:56.900 in remote parts of the world but i do believe uh again you sound crazy for saying this but i do
00:50:02.160 believe i would have i would have said it was crazy a few years ago but after interviewing these
00:50:06.200 just talking to people i've talked to i believe there's something to it and the bible talks about
00:50:11.540 and it doesn't talk about it once like so if the giants were drowned off in the flood how'd they
00:50:16.540 reappear after the flood that's a big question did somebody i mean did somehow god make a mistake
00:50:23.000 which god does make mistakes by the way and someone on that boat on the ark was was infected
00:50:27.200 and the bloodline was infected i don't i don't believe god makes mistakes so i don't believe
00:50:31.200 that's the case did a giant hang on to the boat for for 40 days i don't believe that was it a
00:50:35.700 regional flood some people say it's a regional flood not a global flood i believe the bible
00:50:38.520 speaks to a global flood but people debate that as well uh but i believe that if there was rebellion
00:50:43.460 uh from the watchers coming down to mount hernan 200 of them uh and we know that rebellions happen
00:50:50.400 other times in the bible from satan and other angels then why couldn't happen after the flood
00:50:55.640 this is a seed war and uh and so i believe that rebellion and the descending of angels on the
00:51:00.660 earth could have happened after the flood and probably has happened after the flood and probably
00:51:05.340 continues to happen because we're a spiritual we're in a physical and spiritual world we're
00:51:09.280 a spiritual war and part of that spiritual war is is uh the descending of angels to interact with
00:51:14.240 humans should we be on guard against this should we be worried about it on the look at yeah yeah
00:51:24.620 of course i mean the bible says for us to be on guard right because our enemy the devil roars
00:51:30.220 around like a like a roaring lion looking to devour us like we should be on guard every day
00:51:34.380 i mean i think i think one of the biggest uh strategies of the enemy of satan is to is for
00:51:39.680 us to be off guard for us not to be concerned about these things for us to believe he doesn't
00:51:43.320 He doesn't exist and evil doesn't exist.
00:51:46.760 And so what better way to take advantage of your foe than not even know you're – there's a threat.
00:51:54.580 I think close watchers of the world are pretty convinced that evil exists.
00:51:58.620 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:51:59.740 But people are naive to the threat.
00:52:02.520 And look, you cannot believe you're in a spiritual war.
00:52:05.020 I mean certainly cannot believe it.
00:52:06.060 Most people don't.
00:52:07.520 But we are.
00:52:09.460 You cannot believe there's oxygen in there while we're breathing it.
00:52:11.480 we're in a spiritual war and uh and there is a real enemy satan and it began in the garden
00:52:15.580 and it's here today and it may sound like a fairy tale lore to to people but it's real uh and like
00:52:22.520 you said you could turn on you know whatever news station you want to turn on and uh and just scroll
00:52:26.760 your scroll your feed on your social media and you're gonna see the world is and and you know
00:52:30.720 it's it's it's a broken place it's a broken place uh not because of people because the influence of
00:52:36.460 the spiritual war and the spirit that we're all engaged in and so yeah certainly we have to be
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00:53:40.540 does it scare you personally uh it scares me for for the world as a as a believer who's really
00:53:49.900 reconciled a lot of this uh it doesn't because i know the end of the story right i know the end of
00:53:54.440 genesis i know the end of the genesis 15 is that we're going to crush the head of the serpent and
00:53:58.960 the end of the book right we win uh but that's a but that's a happy ending but there's a lot of
00:54:05.520 pain uh that happens in the process of that in a war right there's a lot of casualties of war
00:54:09.820 any war you look at there's a lot of uh there's a lot of casualties of war and right now we're
00:54:13.600 seeing a world in the casualty of war so it it burns my heart for for everyone who's not aware
00:54:19.040 that we're in this war who doesn't take part in a victory in the end by one of the manifestations
00:54:23.520 of spiritual war appears to be war for sure for certain yeah turning turning a brethren against 0.60
00:54:29.200 brethren nation against nation and we killing each other look at me we were talking about ukraine
00:54:33.160 today and i spent tremendous amount of time both in afghanistan and ukraine and you know one of the
00:54:37.440 most horrible things i've seen in my lifetime has been uh the civilian deaths in in ukraine by
00:54:43.520 a war out of greed uh from politicians around the world and certainly influenced by evil by
00:54:49.560 spiritual evil uh and that i would i would guess two million people in ukraine uh ukraine two
00:54:58.280 million i would guess two million people between russia and ukraine that have died in this war
00:55:02.240 uh over the greed of people because it influence uh because of the spiritual influences on them
00:55:08.460 um do you think that's a wow i think it's a real number two million i think so yeah no we were
00:55:15.020 never going to know for sure they don't they're not going to tell us uh but but i do believe
00:55:19.080 that's probably the the most accurate accurate estimate and look at the period of time this is
00:55:23.920 four years yeah almost five yeah yeah that two million people would be killed and no one seems
00:55:30.840 to know or care no one cares and if you ask even partisans on any side of it like how many people
00:55:36.280 have died they're they're not even no they can't be bothered to find out no don't because if you
00:55:41.620 admit that number you have to then you have to address it right yeah if you're a politician
00:55:46.380 yeah and if you've been pushing this stuff and if you don't care at all about the slaughter of
00:55:50.060 people then you know you sort of reveal who you are how much time have you spent in war zones
00:55:54.820 well i've been to afghanistan eight times and i was you know i was a forced recovery and i was
00:55:59.780 i was a dod contractor i went to a what's called a jsoc task force and so i went to afghanistan
00:56:04.200 eight times in that capacity and i've been to outside of that i've probably been to
00:56:10.980 20 trips to different conflicted zones around the world
00:56:15.380 doing humanitarian rescue operations.
00:56:17.320 How much did that damage you?
00:56:19.980 Well, I mean, when I came home from Afghanistan,
00:56:21.540 like many of our service members today,
00:56:23.120 I dealt with debilitating panic attacks, anxiety, depression.
00:56:26.680 You know, I had a point in 2010
00:56:30.000 to where I was dealing with such debilitating panic attacks
00:56:33.200 that I had attempted to take my life.
00:56:35.420 You know, I was extremely, extremely depressed.
00:56:38.420 Felt like I had no purpose moving forward.
00:56:40.320 and came to this point of hopelessness that, you know,
00:56:43.040 maybe my family would be sad without me, but they'd be better off.
00:56:45.760 And unfortunately, that same hopeless thought finds a home in the hearts of over 20.
00:56:50.500 The number 20, by the way, is totally bogus.
00:56:53.260 We don't know what the number is.
00:56:54.160 The VA says 17, but they don't count jumps, car crashes, or overdoses,
00:56:57.720 which is the VA grades don't report card on that.
00:57:02.180 But independent reports will say 50 veterans take their lives a day.
00:57:06.300 I don't know what the number is, but one is too many.
00:57:08.000 and you know
00:57:09.460 it's the same thought
00:57:10.420 that I had
00:57:10.760 that maybe my family
00:57:11.660 maybe my loved ones
00:57:12.340 maybe the world
00:57:12.820 would be sad without me
00:57:13.580 but they would be better off
00:57:14.580 and make a very
00:57:16.220 permanent decision
00:57:16.920 and temporary problems
00:57:17.940 and take their lives
00:57:19.260 and even outside 0.77
00:57:20.320 the veteran community
00:57:20.940 it's the world
00:57:22.980 I think
00:57:23.320 you've been one
00:57:24.320 of the only people
00:57:24.780 I've ever heard say
00:57:25.300 before that we're
00:57:25.980 in a suicide epidemic
00:57:27.300 of proportions
00:57:28.700 that the world
00:57:29.680 has never seen before
00:57:30.380 and no one talks about it
00:57:31.760 and so
00:57:33.060 There's nothing sadder
00:57:33.960 than suicide
00:57:34.620 There's nothing
00:57:35.500 I mean it leaves
00:57:36.020 a wake of destruction
00:57:36.940 they say one in three children were apparent to commit suicide or do it as well so it's a
00:57:40.160 generational and you see that i've seen that yeah and so you know um for me you know i there's a lot
00:57:46.800 of things i did in my own recovery uh after my suicide attempt uh but nothing has been more
00:57:51.400 profound for me than restoration of my faith through a relationship with jesus and uh you
00:57:54.380 met steve toth you've had him on the show um steve toth um sat across from me just like we're sitting
00:57:59.020 across now and had written a plan of how to fix my life i slid it over to him he didn't even read
00:58:02.860 it because he's really impatient man and he just told me he said uh this plan doesn't have anything
00:58:07.220 to do with relationship with christ i'm not gonna help waste your time i'm not gonna let you waste
00:58:09.980 mine and in that moment i tried everything i've been on medications i've been through counseling
00:58:13.780 i've been through all these different things and even had rebounded professionally successfully i
00:58:18.220 started went back to my you know kind of i've been a martial artist since i was five years old i went
00:58:24.280 back to just fighting full-time and teaching jiu-jitsu and i was very successful in that
00:58:27.640 three years I came home but all those things that I did nothing had helped me get well and so I knew
00:58:33.800 I tried everything and nothing had worked so we have a saying at my foundation now of what you're
00:58:37.540 doing isn't working why not try something different and so in that moment I made a decision to just
00:58:41.240 surrender my life to Jesus didn't really know what it meant but beyond the decision for about a year
00:58:45.240 Steve Toth discipled me and uh and and led me to a place of realization of well of finding restoration
00:58:53.560 finding hope and finding purpose moving forward and that purpose really manifested for me and
00:58:57.980 god just put a deep burden of heart to help others and uh and i think we talked about it earlier but
00:59:01.960 i i uh that burdened me to help others and pay that forward and that manifested in the founding
00:59:06.540 of mighty oaks foundation in 2011 and uh since then you know god's just really blessed the
00:59:11.520 organization we've been able to serve about 800,000 active duty service members between 700
00:59:16.740 800,000 active duty service members in our resiliency program and we have a recovery program
00:59:21.440 for active service members, veterans, first responders, and their families.
00:59:25.920 And we do about, I think this year we'll do about $10 million a year
00:59:28.180 in programming for free to all of those groups, including travel.
00:59:31.660 And it's just been amazing to just, you know, the story of Mighty Oaks is
00:59:35.440 I fell down, someone helped me, I turned around and helped the next person,
00:59:39.060 the next person up to the next person.
00:59:40.260 And for 16 years it's been going on and thousands and thousands of lives
00:59:43.780 have been impacted.
00:59:44.840 And it's been an amazing thing to be part of.
00:59:47.760 How do you save someone from himself?
00:59:49.660 um i think i think when we deal with people that are because most of the you you know the perfect
00:59:56.500 it's it's very self-destructive tendencies uh because of shame guilt uh sense of abandonment
01:00:04.920 sense of failure all these different things that people deal with you have to save them from
01:00:07.820 themselves and and i think i think the biggest thing is is on a peer level coming on a peer
01:00:12.580 level and and being able to connect with someone a peer level peer level support is is there's
01:00:17.400 nothing like it uh anybody that's dealt with addictions knows that only an only someone that
01:00:22.800 only an addict can help an addict right and in the veteran community a therapist or a counselor
01:00:27.720 while they're great and they have their purpose nothing replaces another veteran said no another
01:00:32.420 veteran being hey i know i know where you are right now because i am you i was there and i
01:00:37.600 don't have it figured out yet but i know the direction i'm heading and and i could help you
01:00:40.940 come along with me and we could do it together there's nothing that replaces that and so being
01:00:45.500 able to sit across from someone at a peer level and help them and, and, and, and let them lead
01:00:50.960 them to taking responsibility for themselves. Cause most of us, even those of us that don't
01:00:55.720 think we're victims, cause I would never label myself as a victim. But when you really look at
01:00:59.100 these situations, most of the time we put ourselves in a state of victimhood. We're like,
01:01:03.500 I'm behaving this way because this happened to me. This person did this to me, this circumstance
01:01:07.360 did this to me. And so even, even though something else or X another person or external
01:01:13.180 circumstances maybe 99 of the problem if you own 1 of it you can own 100 of that 1 and take
01:01:20.240 responsibility for your situation and make a decision to move forward and uh and and again
01:01:25.520 that happens best on a on a peer level uh there's there's nothing that a therapist or counselor or
01:01:31.200 spouse could tell one of these veterans struggling in a way that one of our one of our one of our
01:01:37.420 team leaders at mighty oaks on a peer level could tell them and it's just been it's worked i mean
01:01:41.880 know and people like have really been you know kind of blown away especially military leaders
01:01:47.040 of what we do at mighty oaks how it works so well like what are you guys doing like that's so special
01:01:51.000 and what are you doing the six days that we have in our initial intensive and it's like it's not
01:01:55.440 really six days or you know six months or it's it's one moment the moment that a man or woman
01:02:00.420 makes the decision to get out of their own way and align their life to live their life the way
01:02:04.580 they were created to live and and that that that moment happens and uh and this epiphany goes off
01:02:09.460 And then beyond that goes discipleship and teaching them how to live that out.
01:02:13.400 And that's where we bring the table for them.
01:02:16.960 It's just amazing to watch happen.
01:02:18.380 But yeah, it goes back to saving them from themselves, to lead them to take responsibility
01:02:22.260 and align their lives, which I believe the way to align your lives biblically, the way
01:02:26.700 you were created to live.
01:02:28.760 And by the way, Mighty Oaks is a Christian program, but it's not really an evangelical
01:02:32.380 program.
01:02:32.880 But half the people that come to Mighty Oaks are not Christians.
01:02:36.240 A lot of them are agnostic.
01:02:37.260 We've been at Satanists come to a program.
01:02:38.740 we have all kinds of people come to our program, but we, regardless of where they are, we teach
01:02:43.560 them how to live the way we believe that the Bible intended us to live. And so we teach them
01:02:48.840 biblical principles of living. And the result of that has been evangelical because many of them
01:02:52.900 realize, oh, that's a much better way of living and align their lives with that. We had this
01:02:57.740 amazing story of this, we had this guy show up, someone sent him there. He didn't really know
01:03:02.080 what he was getting into. He gets there and we're giving the brief and they realize this is a
01:03:04.900 Christian program. And he comes to us at the end, he says, he goes, Hey, like, I didn't realize
01:03:08.560 this is a christian program it's probably not the place for me he's got six six six tattoo
01:03:12.040 across his neck another satanic tattoo on his arm he's like he's like hey we were just like hey you
01:03:16.840 don't have to believe what we believe we you're more welcome we'd love you to stay here you're
01:03:20.380 gonna have a great time like we're not gonna preach you all week he's like no i do believe
01:03:23.540 what you believe i'm just an opposite team i'm a deacon in this satanic church and how is that
01:03:28.220 working for him pretty well he stayed well it wasn't it obviously wasn't working well for him
01:03:32.060 because he was at our program right but but he stayed and at the end of the week not a lot of
01:03:36.160 success stories well it's a success at the end because he gives his life to christ and now he's
01:03:40.460 a missionary doing missionary work in africa somewhere really yeah so it's like he didn't
01:03:44.880 come for the evangelical side of it but when you realize my life's a mess but there is actually a
01:03:51.600 handbook i just haven't read it and applied it to my life when i do you know it tends to work out
01:03:56.400 better so these are all people who have worked for the u.s government at one point yeah well i mean
01:04:01.540 we do first responders as well so local government as well yeah and they've all been gravely damaged
01:04:06.800 by it and the governments local and federal have no real answer and i've been i've been on the hill
01:04:14.180 quite some time you know and and uh at the va and you know it's still this day i've done i've done
01:04:18.900 so much with the va and uh even was the chairman of office faith-based programs for veteran affairs
01:04:24.000 under president trump and and they still have not conceded to to making programs like muddy oaks
01:04:29.320 available uh institutionally through the government they use us but they won't make it
01:04:35.520 available they definitely use you um it's been 20 years since people started saying out loud
01:04:42.220 hey the va when you show up at the va and you're damaged physically or psychologically from serving
01:04:47.560 your country in a war zone they just hand you a bunch of pills and a lot of those pills are
01:04:53.360 killing people that was 20 years ago people started saying that and they're still doing it
01:04:58.420 still doing it look at when a when a veteran comes and expresses symptoms of like anxiety
01:05:02.920 depression uh like they don't even they don't do a simple blood work test to see if their
01:05:08.580 their cortisol levels were spiked and their home and their hormones level pushed down the
01:05:12.200 testosterone is pushed down they just automatically give them ssri it could be a very temporary thing
01:05:16.300 that could be solved if they just look at the blood work but they just instant ssri and by the
01:05:20.800 way when you get put on an ssri unless you choose at some point to have intervention into that
01:05:25.600 process it's for life like you don't just get off of an ssri after you've been on it for a period of
01:05:30.640 time you have to i mean it takes quite some time to be able to wean yourself off of an ssri it's
01:05:34.780 so mind altering or uh altering to your your your body your system so it's and we don't even have
01:05:41.720 guidelines yet from hhs on weaning from ssris there's been basically i mean there are people
01:05:47.220 now uh one of whom is a good friend of mine who are working on that but we still don't have them
01:05:52.400 And it's been, I don't know, it's been 30 years at least that we've known that SSRIs have horrible side effects.
01:05:57.400 When I got off and I weaned off for about a year, it took another year before I would feel like my brain was vibrating.
01:06:05.420 How long were you on them?
01:06:07.140 Probably like 10 years.
01:06:09.260 What were the side effects?
01:06:11.260 I mean, I think the side effects were numbing.
01:06:14.540 Like I felt very emotionally numb.
01:06:16.540 And I would really be in conflict with this because I've always been a very like compassionate person.
01:06:21.660 have empathy and compassion i felt like just numb uh all the time you felt less empathy and
01:06:26.100 compassion for other people very much so yeah really yeah and you noticed it i noticed it yeah
01:06:30.720 it's very much out of character for me and i and when i say what 10 years like i was on and off i
01:06:34.760 get off i get off and i'd and i'd and i feel like i had to go back on because i'd have you know
01:06:39.420 feeling anxiety ramping up and i was terrified of panic attacks uh so so scariest that's scary
01:06:44.900 that's the fear of panic attacks would push me back on and and so eventually you know i was able
01:06:50.040 to finally get off but even as after i was completely off for like a year i still felt
01:06:54.280 this like vibrating like a my brain was vibrating uh from and which i i attributed to a symptom of
01:07:01.280 getting off of ssris and this is pretty common that people talk about the same
01:07:06.140 type of physiological feeling if ssris worked the suicide rate would be going down
01:07:12.160 but they don't they i think they go up right in fact one of the warnings on the ssri ssris is
01:07:18.400 it increases suicide ideations.
01:07:20.700 So if this is a drug that we give people who are suicidal,
01:07:23.600 but it increases the chance they'll kill themselves,
01:07:25.980 like, what is that?
01:07:26.920 What's the point, right?
01:07:28.080 Right, yeah.
01:07:29.460 So speaking of government misdeeds,
01:07:31.180 I want to end on this
01:07:31.940 because I think it's really, really interesting.
01:07:33.760 So there have been, I mean,
01:07:35.660 for my whole life in journalism,
01:07:37.300 35 years I've gotten letters from people
01:07:39.080 I assumed were schizophrenics saying something. 0.98
01:07:41.280 They all say the same thing.
01:07:42.460 The government is sending me messages in my brain
01:07:45.180 and telling me what to think.
01:07:47.180 And I've never one time taken that seriously.
01:07:50.820 It's my favorite episode on Shadow Figures.
01:07:52.320 Should I take it seriously?
01:07:53.600 You absolutely should.
01:07:54.640 So in episode seven of Shadow Figures,
01:07:57.440 as you make the, we're making this show,
01:08:00.860 I thought, I looked at what we were doing
01:08:02.640 and I'm like, this is the one that I'm like,
01:08:04.340 we're going to waste money and waste time in doing this.
01:08:07.320 And it was the most compelling like thing
01:08:09.560 to me personally of the show.
01:08:10.920 So we looked at a Project Bluebeam scenario,
01:08:13.820 which Project Bluebeam would be deceiving mankind
01:08:16.200 into maybe like a fake alien invasion or something to bring everyone together to gain control of a
01:08:21.120 population of people and so there's many things that many scenarios so we what's one thing that
01:08:25.120 we could test to see if we could do and see let's test to see if we could put voices into people's
01:08:29.880 minds and so we got this sound expert to come on this show as our shadow figure well he's he came
01:08:35.800 on as a subject matter expert and uh and and he had radio shack level equipment not a government
01:08:41.080 budget and we built a ultrasonic sound laser and to put voices into your mind just like uh if you
01:08:49.400 ever use the shock like bone connecting devices yes without the physical touch there it would be
01:08:55.200 done through a sound wave and so you could do one person because you could point to one person two
01:09:02.340 people three a group of people you could do whatever you could but so the for the experiment
01:09:06.560 we want to bring in people that we thought we would be hard to deceive so we brought in
01:09:09.980 two police officers and we told them that they were that would do where we're doing a telepathy
01:09:14.260 experiment so we lied to them they thought they believed we were doing a telepathy experience we
01:09:18.000 wanted to see if we could convince them that we were actually doing telepathy but we're using
01:09:21.520 mechanical a mechanical weapon sound weapon and so we were able to convince them of that both
01:09:27.320 of that and and what did you do so we we uh we put them in a separate room yes and we we
01:09:36.600 made we had them writing down between them uh a thought and then we would uh we would tell them
01:09:44.200 what that thought was because we had someone witnessing it that we were communicating through
01:09:47.740 the sound the sound to and then we and then once we convinced them of that then we put them we put
01:09:52.880 them in the in this chair with their partner next to them so that the partner could see that nothing 0.52
01:09:57.140 was strange was happening and we shot the laser at them so we had this one female police officer
01:10:03.420 we shot the laser at her talking to her, but her partner couldn't hear it. So he's like,
01:10:07.660 I don't hear anything. She's like, I hear something. You hear that? And he's like,
01:10:10.260 I don't hear anything. And she's like, am I crazy? She was, I mean, it made me feel bad
01:10:13.640 because we actually freaked her out pretty bad. And so we were able to talk, to communicate with
01:10:17.960 her. And it's just, it feels like it's in your mind. I had it done to me when we did it. It feels
01:10:22.620 like it's in your mind. And now you could also do your own voice. I can record your voice. I got
01:10:27.380 your voice everywhere. Your voice, you know, Tucker Carlson's voice is everywhere on the
01:10:30.440 internet i could take your voice put it in a system and and program the words and and in your
01:10:35.480 own voice put in your head or i can make a voice of god and and and now you're hearing this maybe
01:10:39.980 one time maybe over every day we give little whispers and convince you somebody like you if
01:10:44.760 we could really convince you know you have a big audience you're affluent like we could
01:10:47.580 really sway a population by controlling voices for putting the voices in your head what are the
01:10:52.700 mechanics of it so it's it's it's a high frequency uh can't get the specifics but it's a high
01:11:00.360 frequency ultrasonic uh kind of laser that shoots out this uh ultrasonic sound and it's vibration
01:11:09.880 so it comes out so much if you imagine that shock uh bone conductor yeah that vibrates but it's
01:11:15.280 actually doing it through the the sound so vibration that sound so it works the same way
01:11:19.740 but you're not hearing it through your ears you're hearing it inside your head okay so you
01:11:23.180 don't perceive it as a voice you perceive it as something that's taking place inside your head
01:11:27.080 inside your head yep so it's not like you turn to find out where it came no no no it's not like
01:11:31.940 that it kind of like it almost feels audible because you hear it audibly but you hear it
01:11:36.660 audibly in your head uh not in not through your ear canal because it's not coming through your
01:11:41.820 canal it's coming through at what distance can you do this uh he you could do it at least he
01:11:47.080 said with equipment we had we could do at least 200 yards we were doing it at 200 yards yeah we
01:11:51.000 were doing it we were doing at about 25 yards in the tests but he said with his equipment you could
01:11:55.940 do it like now now again this is radio shack level equipment imagine what a government could do does
01:12:01.560 the government use this of course they do if we if we were able to do it of course they they have
01:12:05.920 the ability to do that i have no evidence of that um but why wouldn't we at first i was at first i
01:12:12.620 was like this this is incredible and then i thought for a second i'm like this is terrifying
01:12:17.760 the level of influence that you could have over an individual or a group of people or mass group
01:12:23.820 of people develop to do that is it's terrifying well yeah it's one thing to convince someone it's
01:12:28.720 another thing to control someone to the point where he thinks he thought of it himself yeah
01:12:33.060 like that's true conviction makes someone go crazy you could drive someone nuts doing this and then
01:12:38.420 they'd write me letters and my my text is public so it's like they probably text me all the time
01:12:43.080 yeah so yeah it was it was of all the episodes we've done uh that one that's our episode seven
01:12:48.800 which you know probably we call it project blue beam episode it was it was so you're doing all
01:12:54.760 these episodes and you're learning about every single story that you investigate but we don't
01:13:01.360 have conclusive answers to any of this do you think that at some point we will do you think
01:13:07.220 that in the end this will all be revealed like what's your personal view of that well i mean i
01:13:11.500 think in end of the age you know beyond this life everything will be revealed to us but uh
01:13:17.160 in our lifetime on this earth i don't think so i think this could be you know there's so much
01:13:21.980 obstruction to truth uh i think there's as many things that we we're going to continue to be
01:13:27.060 hidden to us uh from us to the end of this age um i certainly want to keep digging uh we we did
01:13:34.280 we did shadow figures, uh, uh, it's our first, first season. I, there's so much more I want to
01:13:39.160 do. I want to go, you know, to Turkey and look at the megalithic sites there. I want to go to
01:13:43.500 Egypt and, and Antarctica and, and, uh, I want to find out, is there a wall in Antarctica? I want
01:13:48.540 to, what's the black pyramid? There's so many things I want, I want to do. There's a black 0.97
01:13:51.560 pyramid in Antarctica. Yes. It's, uh, it's, it's, it looks like the tip of this pyramid. It's, uh,
01:13:57.400 and, and it's in, well, this is on Google maps. What's that? This is on Google maps. I think you
01:14:02.720 You can look it up.
01:14:03.420 Yeah, you can look it up.
01:14:04.360 And it's, boy, it is that no one's allowed to go there.
01:14:07.320 So we want to go there.
01:14:08.360 Says who?
01:14:09.360 Says all the, I mean, there's multiple governments of the world control Antarctica and prohibit permission to go there.
01:14:14.880 Why?
01:14:15.840 No one knows.
01:14:16.600 But why, you know, why can't we go?
01:14:18.780 Who cares if you go across a piece of ice?
01:14:21.340 Yeah, what are they going to do about it?
01:14:22.320 What's in Antarctica that, that, what's in Antarctica that, again, back to what we said earlier, if somebody's trying to stop you from accessing something, it's probably because of some answers there.
01:14:32.720 Well, certainly the truth is the only thing that ever gets suppressed.
01:14:36.200 That's right.
01:14:36.660 They don't care about misinformation.
01:14:37.940 They care about information.
01:14:39.180 Yeah.
01:14:39.500 So, I mean, the Black Pyramid has other things in Antarctica I'd love to see.
01:14:43.200 I mean, the guys at Pyramids have so many mysteries to them.
01:14:45.820 There's a lot that doing this season.
01:14:49.120 I mean, each of these episodes, we don't have any, we don't come, just a spoiler alert,
01:14:53.400 we don't get a conclusive evidence of anything in these episodes.
01:14:56.080 We test a theory in each one.
01:14:58.540 And so there's lots of unanswered questions.
01:15:00.520 And I certainly want to, you know, want those answers.
01:15:04.480 Man.
01:15:05.780 Chad, thank you for doing this.
01:15:06.940 Thanks for the episodes.
01:15:08.260 And thank you for this conversation.
01:15:09.400 Oh, thanks so much, Tucker.
01:15:10.320 Thanks for partnering with us in this.
01:15:12.180 I love it.
01:15:13.400 Amazing to get this out to the people.
01:15:14.600 I am curious.
01:15:15.460 And I just want to keep reminding myself and say out loud, I don't know the answer to any question, really, or many questions.
01:15:22.400 But I think it's worth pursuing the truth regardless.
01:15:25.340 That's right.
01:15:26.600 Thank you.
01:15:27.280 Thank you.
01:15:30.100 We'll be right back.