The Tucker Carlson Show - October 22, 2026


Paris Burns as the Great Replacement Reaches Its Inevitable Conclusion

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00:00:01.000 Well, good evening and welcome. If you've got internet access, you may have spent part of the weekend looking at horrifying violent images from Europe, particularly from France and its capital city, Paris, where protests turned, as they so often do, into riots and then chaos and stores burning and people assaulted and mobs of black clad, apparently young people with face masks running through the streets, setting things on fire, basically just hellish chaos.
00:00:29.980 you wouldn't want in your hometown. And in the days since, there's been a lot of analysis over
00:00:35.420 what this is and what it means for France and Europe, and honestly, for the United States and
00:00:40.700 the rest of the West. And it does mean something, and we'll tell you what we think it means in just
00:00:44.500 a minute. But before we get to that, before we get to the analysis and superimposing our worldview
00:00:50.380 on a world event, just to the facts of it, because those are real too. So the riots you're watching
00:00:58.060 in france were originally organized and maybe even conceived as protests and the organizers
00:01:04.300 were not just fringe groups but they were all kinds of different groups including the country's
00:01:08.940 largest labor union which is hardly fringe in france labor unions are still powerful so
00:01:13.820 they are stakeholders they may be crazy but they're not nihilistic they don't want to burn it
00:01:18.460 all down because well they live off gdp like everybody else in the nation of france and so
00:01:26.060 So they began as protests specifically about France's education system and the lack of
00:01:33.380 funding and the poor state of its schools, supposedly, which, honestly, not having checked,
00:01:38.240 we can believe.
00:01:40.000 But really, they were protests against the nature of the French economy.
00:01:45.080 And we know this because that's what they said they were, but also because almost simultaneously
00:01:50.860 protests of a similar nature broke out across Europe in a whole bunch of different countries.
00:01:55.240 Italy and Belgium and Serbia even Albania had similar protests and all of them though they
00:02:02.980 call themselves different things were basically expressions of outrage against the one thing that
00:02:08.780 unifies all of those countries and maybe every western country which is the boomer economy
00:02:12.600 these are all economies in which the majority of wealth is held by people who are much older
00:02:18.520 and a vanishingly small and in fact diminishing percentage of wealth household wealth is held by
00:02:26.260 young people and that's not necessarily natural hasn't always been that way but it is that way
00:02:33.040 now and a big percentage of these economies particularly the french economy is absorbed
00:02:38.820 by payments to retirees so something like 30 of the entire french education budget
00:02:45.520 goes not to teaching or schools or lunches, but to the retirement of retired teachers. Teachers
00:02:51.900 should no longer teach there. Now they signed up and signed on the dotted line to terms that,
00:02:58.560 you know, are still in place. Like no one's arguing that their pension should be taken away
00:03:04.740 from them. On the other hand, when you get to a system where 30% of your education expenditure
00:03:10.800 is really retirement fees,
00:03:15.380 that's not working correctly.
00:03:18.600 That's dysfunctional.
00:03:19.900 That can't last.
00:03:21.260 In fact, what you're really doing
00:03:22.840 is shafting the next generation.
00:03:25.000 And they are.
00:03:25.820 And again, not just in France,
00:03:27.160 all through Europe,
00:03:27.760 and by the way, all through the West,
00:03:30.120 including in this country.
00:03:32.200 So in the United States,
00:03:33.460 we have a boomer economy too.
00:03:35.320 The majority of household wealth
00:03:36.580 is held by boomers,
00:03:37.840 people born between 46 and 65.
00:03:40.800 the post-war generation the generation of woodstock the generation of the civil rights movement
00:03:45.720 the generation of basically every defining fact of modern life those people the ones who can't
00:03:51.080 stop talking about themselves celebrating themselves in the end we shouldn't be surprised
00:03:56.160 to learn that they turned out to be on average not all of them but as a group the greediest and
00:04:01.420 selfish most selfish generation really in american history so they own the majority of household
00:04:07.040 wealth and no one's saying it's ill-gotten or they stole it or anything but it's just a fact
00:04:10.640 they have the majority and people under 40 have about 6.5 percent of total household wealth in
00:04:17.380 the united states not under 20 these aren't kids these are under 40 so these are almost middle-aged
00:04:23.740 adults themselves and so it shouldn't surprise you that the median aimed for first time home
00:04:28.900 buying in this country is 40 and that's because not that houses have gone out of style or people
00:04:37.080 don't want to own their own place they do as much as they ever have which is a lot that's because
00:04:42.100 they can't afford it because all the money is tied up in an older generation or a couple generations
00:04:49.060 the fox news viewer generation the boomers and it's also probably not a surprise that every
00:04:56.220 president we've had since 1992 with one exception joe biden they've all been boomers all of them
00:05:06.060 so we live in a boomer culture it's going away not quickly enough but we definitely live in a
00:05:12.540 boomer economy and when you have an economy like that of course people who are left out of it
00:05:18.220 who feel unfairly excluded by it are going to be mad and in the current world they have even more
00:05:27.340 reason to be mad not simply because they don't have the money that older people do but because
00:05:31.260 older people just don't care and that's obvious in every public opinion poll on the subject if
00:05:35.380 you were to ask boomers and this has happened a lot in a public opinion poll what do you think
00:05:40.260 of this arrangement they will tell you well this is money that we deserve in fact there was a
00:05:45.520 recent poll in the united states of boomers who again hold the majority of the household wealth
00:05:51.640 in the country and they were asked would you support higher taxes on young people people
00:05:58.920 under 40 the ones who own 6.5 percent of household wealth in america in order to keep your social
00:06:04.660 security benefits going now keep in mind this is the richest segment of the population talking
00:06:09.660 about the poorest segment of the population and 89 of them said oh yeah of course i would
00:06:13.980 yeah this is our money we deserve it the woodstock generation deserves its social security
00:06:18.320 and if that means i don't know moving the median home buying age to 50 well sorry
00:06:24.620 and again it probably shouldn't surprise you that the generation that has never stopped talking
00:06:32.660 about itself would have these attitudes but they're ugly attitudes and again they're on display
00:06:37.660 everywhere you see them in our ruling class you see elderly billionaires whose motivating impulse
00:06:43.660 is to make more money. Well, if you're a billionaire, particularly a billionaire, say,
00:06:47.360 over 60, let's say you're an 80-year-old billionaire, and your main goal is to make
00:06:52.780 more money, you have to ask, like, what is that? Make more money for what? You're a billionaire.
00:06:58.980 Why do you care about making money in your 80s? Maybe you think you're going to live forever
00:07:03.260 thanks to Neuralink or something, but probably not. Maybe it's just a disease. Maybe it's
00:07:09.740 something called greed. Maybe it's an unfillable void, like lust or gluttony. Maybe it's just a
00:07:17.600 very recognizable character defect, in fact, a sin. And maybe it's infected everybody in charge
00:07:23.840 in the West. Possible. In any case, that's the perception. And young people are mad about it.
00:07:30.560 And so, again, you probably shouldn't be surprised if that's the system you have,
00:07:35.980 that at some point you're going to get protests. And whenever you have lots of young people
00:07:39.500 gathered, those protests are apt to become violent. And they did across Europe, but particularly in
00:07:44.560 France for reasons that we'll describe in a minute. But first, to video of the protests
00:07:48.520 we're talking about. Here's a montage.
00:08:09.500 He's the same person and he takes the night and withì„  from long to win.
00:08:30.500 Please leave your dåke s.
00:08:37.500 if you haven't seen that tape you may have thought to yourself when you heard there were
00:08:54.800 riots in france or big demonstrations in france that got out of control you may have dismissed it
00:08:59.300 in your own mind as something you have heard before because of course you have heard it before
00:09:03.000 The French are always protesting.
00:09:04.980 The French love to protest, often for reasons the non-French mind can barely comprehend.
00:09:10.520 There's some sort of theoretical reason we need to take to the streets.
00:09:13.520 And they've been doing this for a very long time.
00:09:15.700 Well, hundreds of years, of course.
00:09:16.980 The French Revolution began this way.
00:09:19.040 But there's something a little different about these protests.
00:09:22.640 One, they were legitimately chaotic.
00:09:25.240 These were not yellow vests on tractors going down the Champs-Élysées, demanding more attention
00:09:30.660 to French agriculture or something.
00:09:32.140 That seemed fine.
00:09:33.000 and very french these seem like protests that were from the beginning riots which is to say
00:09:39.240 they were not organized they were chaotic and they were violent and they were taking place
00:09:43.640 in central paris which is not only the capital of the country and has been for more than a thousand
00:09:50.120 years but is really the center of the country in a way americans may find hard to understand
00:09:55.480 there's no american city that represents to france what paris does to france you wouldn't
00:10:01.480 want new york to go away but if it did it wouldn't take with it the soul of america it would be our
00:10:06.520 biggest city that's sad in some ways it's already gone and that is sad but it's not like america
00:10:12.120 ceases to exist paris is really the core of france it's in the center of france and it's
00:10:17.880 in the center of the french mind but it's also or was for centuries anyway the center of western
00:10:25.160 culture. France. I mean, Fashion Week in Paris. Everybody goes to Paris. It's another way of
00:10:32.140 saying that the scenes you're watching are unfolding in places you probably have been
00:10:36.600 personally. Many Americans have, even ones who don't travel very much. They want to go to Paris.
00:10:42.660 And of course, the French authorities know that. Of course, they know that because France doesn't
00:10:47.980 really have much of an economy anymore. They make weapons and they make high-end consumer goods.
00:10:53.740 France itself is a high-end consumer good, really, if you think about it.
00:10:58.640 And so to allow that kind of chaos and violence in recognizable places in front of landmarks
00:11:05.800 in downtown Paris, pretty wild thing to allow, if you think about it, where were the French
00:11:11.620 authorities?
00:11:13.180 Well, this is something else you should know about France.
00:11:15.220 The French authorities are not maybe quite as incompetent as you may assume they are.
00:11:19.240 If you get your news about France from the Simpsons and imagine the French are fundamentally
00:11:23.500 cheese-eating surrender monkeys, kind of buffoonish and absurd and full of themselves,
00:11:27.480 and baguettes and galois and all the rest, and of course all of that's true and they
00:11:33.100 work about 20 hours a week and cliché, cliché, cliché, cliché, cliché, you may not know
00:11:38.360 that there are parts of the French state which are ruthlessly and famously efficient, and
00:11:43.560 that would include their internal security services.
00:11:46.460 French intelligence is not a joke.
00:11:48.840 And anyone familiar with the topic will tell you that.
00:11:51.080 French intelligence assassinates as many people as any other intelligence service.
00:11:55.460 Maybe more, probably more.
00:11:58.000 France's nuclear weapons.
00:11:59.600 And if you talk to anyone in the nuclear weapons business,
00:12:01.880 they will tell you that of all nations in Europe,
00:12:03.760 France is by far considered the most likely to use those nuclear weapons.
00:12:09.060 Lots of countries have been protested by, say, Greenpeace.
00:12:12.140 But it was only France that blew up a Greenpeace ship in Auckland Harbor in 1985
00:12:17.340 called the Rainbow Warrior.
00:12:19.580 They sunk it right to the bottom of the harbor
00:12:21.280 with limpet mines and killed a guy on board.
00:12:24.000 Britain didn't do that.
00:12:25.020 Spain didn't do that.
00:12:26.700 France is kind of a serious place.
00:12:28.260 It was only a couple of years ago
00:12:29.640 that France grabbed Pavel Durov,
00:12:32.800 the guy who owns Telegram,
00:12:34.420 the social media app, the messaging app.
00:12:36.960 And they were mad that they didn't have a back door
00:12:39.460 into Telegram.
00:12:42.020 And so they just arrested him at an airport
00:12:44.040 where he was refueling.
00:12:45.120 And they held him for over a year in France.
00:12:47.340 They didn't ask anybody's permission.
00:12:48.500 They just did it.
00:12:50.300 Well, that's disgusting, of course.
00:12:52.480 Authoritarian, obviously, but that's the way they are.
00:12:56.960 And if you doubt that, read any account of the Algerian Wars of the 1950s,
00:13:01.840 where the French colonial authorities tried to crack down on
00:13:05.400 separatist independence movements in North Africa.
00:13:08.060 They were tough and brutal and decisive.
00:13:11.840 and so it's only worth noting that to say that if the French authorities wanted to crack down
00:13:19.200 on these protests at the very beginning well they certainly could have they have the technology for
00:13:24.100 sure they have the will and they have the personnel it's like the most functional part
00:13:29.000 of the French state is its internal security services but they didn't in fact the French
00:13:34.740 president Emmanuel Macron was at a it's hard to believe we're not making this up but we're not
00:13:39.980 he was at a Celine Dion concert when this all happened. Literally. I mean, like, that just,
00:13:45.780 that had to be scripted. That can't be real, speaking of The Simpsons. But he was. He was a
00:13:49.140 Celine Dion concert. As a half a million people, and they knew this was going to happen, gathered
00:13:54.060 in central Paris in anger. So what is that? Why would they allow? Of course, we don't have an
00:14:00.120 answer for that, other than, to note the obvious, which is they've been allowing this kind of thing
00:14:05.660 for 40 or 50 years, probably since De Gaulle. And we know that because we've been to Paris
00:14:12.040 recently, and it's filthy. And it's filled with people from other countries making a mess. It's
00:14:16.260 covered in graffiti. And everyone can see that. So what you're watching now probably is just the
00:14:23.960 most obvious expression of what has been happening for decades, which is the implosion of a nation
00:14:28.900 overseen by its own authorities. They know what's happening. You can't allow graffiti in your
00:14:34.760 downtown for decades without having the whole thing fall apart. The broken windows theory is
00:14:40.020 real. Minor displays of disorder lead to greater displays of disorder, which leads to chaos and
00:14:46.840 collapse. That's just the nature of life in this world, and everybody knows it intuitively.
00:14:52.140 And that's why functional cities like Tokyo or Moscow or Abu Dhabi or pick one, there are a lot,
00:14:56.400 Singapore, they don't allow that. But France does and serially does, which is to say lots of French
00:15:03.100 leaders over many many years have allowed their country to degrade which suggests over time that
00:15:08.540 that's kind of what they wanted or being paid to allow or whatever but it's not an accident
00:15:12.340 so we probably shouldn't be surprised that the French authorities sat back and watched their
00:15:18.280 own capital city burn which they have so those were kind of the newsreel clips just to give you
00:15:27.080 an overview. Here is a much tighter shot on an individual facing the mob. This is the street
00:15:33.500 level view of the riots in Paris this weekend. Watch.
00:15:57.080 well what is that that doesn't look like a protest against education funding or a boomer
00:16:11.260 economy both of which seem pretty legitimate actually the economy is ridiculous in the way
00:16:17.100 that it's structured and everybody knows that and if young people are poor it doesn't work by
00:16:20.720 definition so it's okay to protest it but that wasn't protest that was looting and that was
00:16:26.380 roughing up some woman now apparently that woman we have read is some sort of left-wing activist
00:16:32.360 or fashion icon or something and people are saying that she deserved to get roughed up by the mob
00:16:36.880 okay no she didn't actually no matter what her views are no one deserves that no one deserves
00:16:41.820 to be intimidated by people in black masks in their own city that's awful and more than awful
00:16:47.160 of course you're watching the collapse of a civilization of civil society that's what that is
00:16:52.920 even people with stupid political views are allowed to have the expectation they can walk
00:16:57.700 down the street without being tossed around by rioters you can never allow that okay so that's
00:17:04.940 the first thing you notice this is really bad no matter how you feel about the protest or the
00:17:10.900 politics of it or whatever that's the first thing the second thing you notice is not many people in
00:17:15.180 that video seem to be very french at all the girl who's getting roughed up is obviously french
00:17:20.680 kind of pretty French. You know, their women famously are. But most other people seem to be
00:17:27.320 non-French, non-European. And no one really wants to say that. It's considered bad to say that. But
00:17:33.400 why is it bad to say that? It's obvious and it's meaningful. And it also reflects a reality that
00:17:38.820 cannot be avoided by anyone who visits Paris or any other European capital these days, which is
00:17:43.960 these cities don't seem very European because the majority of the people you see in the street are
00:17:48.740 not from Europe, and you know that, sorry, by looking at them. So people in the United States
00:17:55.060 have notices, and because we're in such a politically polarized time, and because there's
00:17:58.840 so much lying, and everyone's working out some agenda, usually has to do with the faraway Middle
00:18:03.400 Eastern conflict, people are motivated to make polemical points on the basis of clips like that.
00:18:08.660 And the one that you're hearing a lot is that, well, the Muslims took over Paris. And there's
00:18:14.140 definitely some truth in that. France had a bunch of different colonies in North Africa, which are
00:18:18.040 Muslim countries. And after they gave up those colonies, as a lot of colonial powers did, they
00:18:22.300 allowed people from those countries to move to France for the cheap labor. And that turned out
00:18:28.480 to be a pretty bad deal over time, both for the French economy and for France itself, for the
00:18:32.980 culture, for everything about France. But it's also true that that's not the whole story.
00:18:38.780 So people are using this to tell you that Muslims are bad. And well, of course, any Muslim who's
00:18:44.020 behaving like that is bad. But if you look carefully, it's not just Muslims, actually.
00:18:49.460 Paris is a little different from other European cities in that there is a huge population
00:18:54.120 of sub-Saharan Africans. Not North Africans, sub-Saharan Africans. And they're there for a
00:19:00.760 simple reason, which is that they speak French. There are more than 20 countries in Africa that
00:19:04.960 are French-speaking. A lot of them are former French colonies, and the people there speak
00:19:08.240 French. And when they show up in mainland Europe and speak French, and no one else does,
00:19:12.780 if you're in frankfurt and you speak french you probably want to get to paris where other people
00:19:17.200 speak french and so france has an awful lot of sub-saharan africans living in it particularly
00:19:23.540 in paris and it's very noticeable not noticeable in a bigoted way but there is a difference and
00:19:28.760 anyone who tells you there's no difference between people from different countries hasn't
00:19:32.560 been to other countries there's a massive difference and so you hear on american television
00:19:38.540 this is a Muslim invasion. Okay. But it's also a little more simple than that.
00:19:43.940 It is the result of mass migration, in this case, from sub-Saharan Africa. And if you don't think
00:19:51.080 that matters, ask yourself, would you be willing to take your family on vacation in Marrakech,
00:19:55.820 Morocco? Probably. A lot of people do. Spend a lot of money doing it. Would you bring your family
00:20:02.660 on vacation to Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso? Probably not. And you probably wouldn't because it's a
00:20:09.300 dangerous place like almost every single city in sub-Saharan Africa outside of Cape Town. That's
00:20:14.300 just a fact. Now, why that's a fact, why that is a consistent fact across the continent, unknown,
00:20:21.460 and we're not going to speculate, but it is a fact. And so when you import a lot of people from
00:20:25.820 dangerous, chaotic places that have always been dangerous and always chaotic, that have no history
00:20:31.000 of stability. You're probably going to replicate the conditions they left over time if it's a big
00:20:37.280 enough group of people. And that's exactly what has happened in Paris. Now, the extent to which
00:20:42.660 it's happened, we don't know, because in 1978, the French government banned counting people within
00:20:48.280 the borders of France by race. That was 1978, which kind of happened to be the beginning of a
00:20:53.580 massive ramp up in immigration into France. Kind of weird. There were something like 11,000
00:20:59.860 immigrants admitted that year. There are now millions and millions and millions and hundreds
00:21:03.240 of thousands admitted every year still into France and a lot of them from sub-Saharan Africa.
00:21:09.360 So again, it's not to say that there aren't troublesome Muslim immigrants in France. Well,
00:21:13.940 of course there are those no-go zones you keep hearing about. But to make a clean and fast
00:21:18.760 polemical point about it, and then it also raised the question, how do these people get there?
00:21:24.580 How did they make it to France in the first place or any other European country or for that matter,
00:21:29.220 of the united states was it the muslim lobby that got them here or there in the united states in
00:21:36.220 2001 on the eve of 9-11 there were about a million muslims in the entire country 320 million people
00:21:43.680 probably in the u.s then and there were about a million muslims there are now about six million
00:21:48.220 muslims after 9-11 and the lesson of 9-11 we're told is that 19 arrows with box cutters committed
00:21:55.700 the greatest act of terrorism in american history muslims are bad and yet somehow we got an extra
00:21:59.880 five million muslims in 25 years was it the muslim lobby that did that how did that happen it might
00:22:04.960 be worth finding out in fact we definitely should find out and we need to find out what happened to
00:22:09.840 europe because this is the effect of it not because all the people who came are bad a lot of them
00:22:16.220 aren't bad doubtless because most people aren't bad but if you move a huge population of completely
00:22:23.180 different people into your ancient country, you are going to have conflict. And it almost doesn't
00:22:29.020 matter what the population is. What matters most is its size, but that is always and everywhere
00:22:37.800 a recipe for disunion. And if you're bringing people in from violent countries where they
00:22:42.960 express disagreements with, say, machetes, you're going to get machete attacks. And of course,
00:22:46.660 all these european capitals have so this was never the plan and if you raise this question which
00:22:53.660 you're not invited to ever but if you dare to you will hear that the people who are you're watching
00:23:00.020 on the screen are every bit as french as anybody else but of course that's demonstrably untrue
00:23:04.140 it's not true in any sense they are not the historic french population
00:23:08.060 they don't share a common history with the rest of the french nation and there was a time not
00:23:16.180 that long ago when people could just say that out loud, that there was a balance in any society
00:23:20.960 between the willingness to welcome people from the outside and the obligation to keep a stable
00:23:27.840 population, an obligation not simply to your ancestors but to your grandchildren. Don't change
00:23:32.500 the country overnight. It's not your right to do that. And in fact, it was Charles de Gaulle who
00:23:37.060 was not any kind of lunatic or whatever. He was in fact the founder of the modern French state,
00:23:42.480 the fifth republic who made that point in 1959 in fact we have the quote and it might be worth
00:23:47.320 reading it because when you first hear this it might be sort of titillatingly fringe but if you
00:23:53.100 think about it it's entirely reasonable and decent and it represented the majority public opinion in
00:23:58.680 1959 and we would bet that no one would ever poll it it represents the majority opinion in every
00:24:04.140 country on the globe at this point in history here's the quote it is very good that there are
00:24:11.860 yellow Frenchmen, black Frenchmen, brown Frenchmen. They prove that France is open to all races and
00:24:17.680 that she is a universal mission. All right. But it is good on condition that they remain a small
00:24:23.460 minority. Otherwise, France would no longer be France. We are, after all, primarily a European
00:24:29.720 people of the white race, Greek and Latin culture, and the Christian religion.
00:24:36.620 So if you find yourself in a place where saying something like that is controversial or hateful,
00:24:41.340 And by the way, if you do say something like that, if you ever dared to, you would be immediately
00:24:44.580 attacked by the Anti-Defamation League as a supremacist of some kind.
00:24:49.440 Evil.
00:24:51.460 But if you come to a place where that happens and people take the attack seriously, where
00:24:55.740 you're not allowed to acknowledge that different people behave, at least on the margins, differently,
00:25:02.640 they may have identical value in the eyes of God, and we believe they do, each imbued
00:25:07.500 with a soul.
00:25:08.060 You can't kill them or mistreat them.
00:25:10.840 But you also are under no obligation to mix them all up and pretend that it's a coherent country,
00:25:16.140 because that's not how things work or ever have. And in fact, it's an act of great hostility to do
00:25:21.760 that to a nation. And as we'll show you in a minute, it has been done to the nation of France
00:25:26.380 and to the surrounding nations and to every country in the West, but no other country,
00:25:32.000 which is kind of interesting. Well, in any case, at this point, we're not exactly sure what
00:25:36.000 percentage of the french population or the population of paris is non-white but it's huge
00:25:42.140 it's obviously huge in fact it's so big and this is also part of an inevitable process that there
00:25:48.300 are elements of the french political system who are no longer complaining about it but instead
00:25:52.780 embracing it in fact the leader of the french left who will be facing off to in the coming
00:25:58.500 elections in france to vie for the presidency he'll likely lose but said recently that he doesn't want
00:26:05.420 France to be French, he would rather it be Creole. And he described this process of changing historic
00:26:13.340 France into something new and different and less white as, and we're quoting now, the Great
00:26:19.620 Replacement, which made us laugh. Only the French dare say the obvious out loud, because of course
00:26:25.920 the term the Great Replacement is totally verboten in the United States. It's considered a racist or
00:26:30.580 somehow anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. The idea that the populations of white countries are being
00:26:36.880 intentionally turned non-white. The countries when you were a kid that had white majorities
00:26:41.700 no longer do, and that that's not organic, it's not an accident, someone decided to do that,
00:26:45.980 which is of course true. Obviously, none of this happens by accident. Nobody actually wants this,
00:26:52.540 but it happens nonetheless. And you're not allowed to note it, or else you're the criminal,
00:26:57.820 which is a kind of consistent theme in the modern world you catch someone doing something wrong
00:27:02.120 committing genocide in gaza for example and noting that they're committing a crime makes you the
00:27:07.500 criminal shut up you're a hater no i'm not the one who's killing people i'm not the one who's
00:27:11.820 replacing historic indigenous populations with foreigners against the will of the population
00:27:16.920 which is to say in violation of the precepts of democracy and decency i'm not the one committing
00:27:22.380 war crimes in europe but that's not kind of how it works right now you say it you're the bad guy
00:27:28.720 but at this point it's so obvious and it's so obviously non-hateful to note what is right in
00:27:36.460 front of your face or to cite census numbers that why not just say it and why not also straighten
00:27:42.120 out the kind of moral hierarchy here the people who note what's happening are not the bad guys
00:27:47.400 the people who are doing it are the bad guys the people who commit the crimes are the ones who
00:27:52.320 should hang their heads in shame, not the ones who object to those crimes. And make no mistake,
00:27:56.760 this is a crime. And one of the reasons it's a crime, and this is really no one's fault,
00:28:03.460 it's just kind of the nature of it, is that once you change the population of a country,
00:28:09.040 the new population will want that country. It will believe and have reason to believe,
00:28:13.660 by the way, that this is their country too. And by country, we mean not simply the
00:28:18.320 infrastructure of the country or the economic machinery of the country, we mean the culture
00:28:22.900 of the country. And that would include the history of the country. So people want to look out their
00:28:29.420 door and say, you know, my ancestors had a role in building all of this. There's a continuity
00:28:33.100 to my life, which is limited. I was preceded by my parents and grandparents and on back to the
00:28:39.760 generations, and I will be followed by my children and grandchildren, et cetera. I am part of a
00:28:44.040 continuum. That's the most human desire to want that. This is why people visit or used to visit
00:28:49.220 their ancestors' graves before somehow we were all convinced to incinerate them and toss them
00:28:53.800 into the wind and pretend they never existed in the first place. That's called cremation,
00:28:57.100 which is now the overwhelming choice of white Americans. But most cultures, even in the United
00:29:01.420 States, still stick to the old ways. And they do it for a really obvious reason. This is my country,
00:29:08.680 and I want my people buried in its earth and I want to visit them and in so doing I establish
00:29:14.820 a connection between my life and theirs and the lives to follow. History not simply matters because
00:29:21.180 we can learn lessons from it though of course it does because the cliche is true it repeats itself
00:29:26.700 but history is important because it roots us in something larger than ourselves which is the whole
00:29:33.280 scope of time and the human experience it has significance to our lives it has form to our
00:29:38.900 lives meaning to our lives and so we want it and any group that is a majority in a country
00:29:45.480 will demand it and we'll take it and we'll rewrite the history of course to reflect our
00:29:50.940 own beliefs and our own aspirations to highlight our own wounds if you want to know who runs a
00:29:58.060 country, it's often said, ask who you can't criticize. But a maybe more accurate way to
00:30:04.400 measure who's in charge is to ask who's in charge of history? Who gets to make sense of the past,
00:30:11.020 an endless number of details? Who gets to assemble them into recognizable form and draw
00:30:15.040 lessons from it? Those who control history control the present, obviously. And so the mark that you
00:30:23.140 have reached a point where you no longer have the same culture is when history starts to be
00:30:29.300 destroyed when mobs say i don't know tear down the statues to your ancestors or your ancestors
00:30:34.300 heroes or when as just happened in france the mob in the name of protesting school funding
00:30:41.040 starts torching old buildings watch this i've been based in france quite a long time and this
00:30:48.960 the first time i've seen a town hall deliberately set alight this is a very beautiful building dates
00:30:55.440 back to the 1800s and the people of lumage are very proud of this building they say it's one of
00:30:59.680 the most attractive and all day fire crews there's still some smoldering here fire crews have been
00:31:04.720 going inside checking out what the conditions are of the walls whether there's a chance that they
00:31:08.640 might actually collapse and at the moment they just don't know what you need to know is that
00:31:13.280 there were actually some police cars just next to the building when the mob came in the police
00:31:17.840 Police cars were set alight and there were some police officers right there in front
00:31:21.480 and they were overwhelmed as the mob came in and set alight at this building.
00:31:25.440 There was even marriages being celebrated in this building on the first floor
00:31:29.060 just a few hours before the arsonist struck.
00:31:31.180 You need to know that there are hundreds of people here on the walls behind me
00:31:34.580 who've been watching all day and they've been telling me they're shocked, scared,
00:31:38.600 and don't understand why this happened.
00:31:42.740 So to any normal person, certainly a normal European,
00:31:45.460 that is more than an act of vandalism. It's an atrocity, and it's intentional. Torching a
00:31:51.060 building like that, of course, doesn't raise school funding, doesn't change the economy to
00:31:56.220 the advantage of young people. It's an act of desecration meant to erase the past in order to
00:32:01.740 build a new future along lines that immigrants decide. So that's exactly what that is. And in
00:32:10.020 that sense, it's an act of war. But more even than an act of war, it's a kind of foreshadowing of
00:32:19.580 the future, a future in which Europe does not at all belong to the people you thought live there,
00:32:28.120 the people whose ancestors built it, everything about it, including that building. It will belong
00:32:32.520 to a new set of people who will be, by definition, and it's not their fault, it's just the truth,
00:32:36.980 totally disconnected from the history of Europe,
00:32:40.040 the history you grew up reading about,
00:32:41.260 the history that in fact defines our lives
00:32:42.860 even here in the United States to this day.
00:32:45.380 The history of Europe is central
00:32:46.540 to the history of the United States
00:32:47.900 and New Zealand and Australia and Canada
00:32:50.220 and the entire Western world.
00:32:52.360 Of course, that's our history.
00:32:54.660 But when the population changes,
00:32:56.380 that history will be replaced
00:32:58.260 in the same way that Lakota or Hopi
00:33:00.740 or any other Native American history
00:33:04.240 was completely erased.
00:33:05.800 of course do you know anything about Passamaquoddy history no do you care of course not why not
00:33:14.360 because you don't have to because the Passamaquoddy's have been replaced that's not self
00:33:19.660 flagellation that's not oh we committed genocide though there's a case for that it's merely a
00:33:26.240 straightforward observation about the nature of replacement and when the old is replaced over time
00:33:32.500 it's not mourned any more than people are in the end no one visits their grave in the end no one
00:33:37.540 remembers their history why would they any more than we celebrate the milestones of Assyrian
00:33:42.920 history we don't the reason it's worth noting all of this is because it's happening right in front
00:33:47.420 of us and it's again not the product of a conventional war Europe didn't get invaded
00:33:53.280 and conquered in fact we're still told Europe was somehow liberated back 80 years ago hard to see
00:33:59.540 how that's true now in any case it is no less an act of war simply because it happened over time
00:34:06.560 in much more subtle and hidden ways and it did happen and we're going to read some of the numbers
00:34:11.900 now not to be pedantic or boring but just to show you kind of the scope of this so here's a list of
00:34:16.460 European cities and as we said the numbers in France are a little bit hard to guess at because
00:34:22.200 they're not officially available having been banned in 1978 when immigration really started
00:34:28.520 in earnest but they are available in other countries so here's i think the second biggest
00:34:33.440 french-speaking city in europe which would be brussels belgium 1955 so 10 years after the end
00:34:39.400 of the war brussels was 95 european 95 which shouldn't surprise you it's a european city it's
00:34:46.960 ancient european city brussels is now 21 european 21 95 to 21 well that's pretty amazing london
00:34:57.160 1955, 97% English, European, white. Today, 36%. 97 to 36%. Amsterdam, 98%, now 40%. Minority.
00:35:10.900 Berlin, 98% 1955, 10 years after losing the war. Today, 57%. Vienna, 95%, 55. Today, 51%. Barely a
00:35:21.980 majority. Stockholm, Sweden, a little kind of out of the fray up in Scandinavia, that big peninsula
00:35:26.380 up there to the West. Scandinavia, kind of not in the heart of things, right? Even Stockholm,
00:35:32.960 big city. 1955, not surprisingly, Stockholm, Sweden was 97% Swedish. Today it's 65%. And
00:35:40.300 other cities in Sweden, Malmo most famously, are minority Swedish. So you may think that's great.
00:35:47.340 You may think it's terrible. It almost kind of doesn't matter what you think. You will spend
00:35:52.060 all day in fact you'll spend the rest of your life trying to find a corollary in world history
00:35:57.300 nothing like this has ever happened before that we know of certainly since the pyramids you have
00:36:03.980 never seen a replacement on this scale and this precisely targeted it is only and we would dare
00:36:12.680 anybody to refute this with numbers and not just hysteria about white supremacy
00:36:16.480 it is only the majority white cities and countries that have turned over in population nothing like
00:36:24.900 this has happened in africa or asia or the middle east it has happened only in nations with a white
00:36:31.000 majority and they no longer are a white majority and at this pace very soon in fact within our
00:36:36.560 lifetimes there will not be a single white majority nation in the world other than russia
00:36:41.860 and that's of course assuming that russia isn't destroyed in the current war and it raises the
00:36:47.060 question about the motives behind this current work is it possible that the fact that russia
00:36:51.320 is the last big majority white country in the world does that play a role in the hatred that
00:36:56.100 many feel for it we don't know just throwing that out there but it's not a crazy thing to ask
00:37:00.580 given that this is a universal fact across the globe from australia to ottawa from canberra to
00:37:09.840 ottawa that majority white nations either are no longer majority white or are moving so quickly
00:37:16.380 to minority white status that there will be none left in 20 years and that would include by the
00:37:22.740 way even iceland the tiny frozen country settled by vikings a thousand years ago which until
00:37:31.640 recently had one of the most homogenous populations in the world in fact so homogenous that
00:37:39.700 Icelanders famously did a lot of genealogy before getting married because the chances your neighbor
00:37:44.140 was your cousin were pretty darn high even Iceland all of a sudden is struggling with
00:37:49.920 immigration unwanted immigration there's never been evidence that the majority of Icelanders
00:37:55.040 wanted immigration but they were bullied from the outside and you can read about it in some detail
00:37:59.860 if you're interested how exactly that happened but it did happen to the point that immigration
00:38:04.580 is if you talk to anyone who lives in Iceland one of the big issues in that country and it's
00:38:09.080 jail population reflects that. What was an orderly, homogenous, prosperous country still is in a lot
00:38:15.540 of ways, but becoming much less so very quickly thanks to mass migration that they didn't want.
00:38:21.220 It's almost like, in fact, it's not almost like, it is a fact that they were targeted because they
00:38:26.080 were too white. Now, what is that? Well, it's not an act of love. It's the opposite. It's an act of
00:38:34.400 hate. And if it was an act of love, if the principle held universally that diversity is our
00:38:39.500 strength, that it's good for you to have a country that has no working majority of anybody, certainly
00:38:44.280 not a white majority. But if it was just always good to be diverse, then there would be well
00:38:49.500 consistent, in fact, equal and consistent pressure on every nation in the world to adopt the same
00:38:55.540 standard. And the United Nations and the Soros organizations and the Democratic Party of the
00:39:02.120 United States and every green party on the planet would be working in concert to do to the rest of
00:39:07.240 the world what they have done to the white world. And that is to mix it up a little bit.
00:39:12.900 Why is China 99% Han Chinese? Why is India all Indian? Why is Burkina Faso all African?
00:39:21.580 Those countries must be weak. But of course, that hasn't happened. It is only white countries that
00:39:26.980 have been targeted. And so the onus is not on people who notice it to explain what that is.
00:39:32.240 The onus is on the people who did it to explain why they did it and to tell the rest of us why
00:39:37.720 this isn't hate. Because it so clearly is. You don't act this way to people you love. And of
00:39:44.760 course, countries that are cherished and loved by their leaders and their supporters don't have
00:39:50.460 this. That would include China. It would include Israel, which has fought many wars over demographics.
00:39:54.800 In fact, is fighting currently on seven fronts over the question of demographics.
00:40:00.360 And you can revile that in the behavior of the Israeli military, and of course we have.
00:40:06.520 But it doesn't change the fact that at its root, Israel's struggle is over demographics.
00:40:12.680 They would like their country to be filled with people like them, and they're willing to fight for it, or at least they're willing to use the U.S. military to fight for it.
00:40:20.460 And that's not an attack, it's just an observation, but it's almost never made.
00:40:24.800 because of course the obligation is for white countries to diversify but everyone else to do
00:40:29.120 exactly what they want and why is that and why does no one ask that question but even if you're
00:40:35.800 in favor of that you would have to look at what is happening in paris even if you hated the french
00:40:41.020 if you hated whites you would have to look at that as sad is rioting ever good is chaos ever good
00:40:48.260 you see the video of the blonde girl getting hassled by men in masks pushed around
00:40:52.280 a normal person would feel sympathy a normal person look at that and say oh i may not like
00:40:59.480 the french or what i don't hate europe but gee that's tough i wouldn't want that in my town
00:41:04.600 but that's not how people looked on it at all actually and here's one example here's the prime
00:41:10.280 minister of israel benjamin netanyahu asked in a recent interview in just the last few days
00:41:14.380 you saw what's happening in france what do you make of it and here's his response
00:41:18.900 Macron called me on October 7th.
00:41:21.900 What did he say?
00:41:22.900 He said, you know, we have to work for an immediate ceasefire and to solve this by diplomacy.
00:41:29.900 And I said, no. No, Emmanuel.
00:41:32.900 It's not going to be solved by diplomacy.
00:41:34.900 These are monsters. These are neo-Nazis.
00:41:37.900 You don't solve a problem of the SS, as I told the German chancellor who came here, with diplomacy.
00:41:45.900 You destroy them.
00:41:48.120 And I said to him this.
00:41:49.580 I said, you know, Hamas is like ISIS.
00:41:54.020 In fact, it's worse in some respects than ISIS, even worse than ISIS.
00:41:57.960 And let me tell you, if we don't stop Hamas here, you'll see them on the streets of Paris.
00:42:03.340 And that's exactly what is happening right now.
00:42:05.440 Do you think Emmanuel Macron has learned his lesson today, seeing what's happening in France?
00:42:11.340 Well, I think the French people see what's happening in the streets of France.
00:42:15.360 And probably will, as it looks like, it could foster a change in the political makeup of France.
00:42:26.700 It's an amazing clip that should be saved for future generations to savor and learn from.
00:42:31.780 So the first thing you notice is how the prime minister of Israel immediately makes it about himself.
00:42:36.100 So France is literally burning.
00:42:37.740 Paris is burning.
00:42:38.580 Dallas, he's an international person.
00:42:40.280 He's been to Paris.
00:42:40.960 and it's a city that the world has loved for hundreds of years, maybe more than it deserves.
00:42:45.900 But in any case, it is Paris. It's not your average city. It's not Tucson or Tel Aviv,
00:42:49.840 for that matter. It's a great global city. And it's on fire. And so rather than extend any
00:42:56.480 sympathy at all, you have the Israeli prime minister making it immediately about himself.
00:43:00.800 Well, Macron called me about Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, and Hamas is on the street. Hamas is not on the
00:43:05.460 streets. What? It had nothing at all to do with Israel, we think. But here the guy is talking
00:43:14.520 about himself. And then he is expressing something. You watch the tape again if you're
00:43:19.820 checking this out on your phone. Rewind that. Pretty obvious that he's taking some satisfaction
00:43:25.800 in the fact that Paris is burning. And it's not the first time that the Israeli Prime Minister or
00:43:30.700 other leaders, including in the United States, certainly in our neocon community,
00:43:34.340 have taken pleasure in the destruction of europe when the invasion of spain from north africa
00:43:42.180 accelerated a few weeks ago you saw the same reaction well they deserve it they criticize
00:43:47.640 what we're doing in gaza they deserve it they deserve it your average spaniard deserves to
00:43:53.800 have his country destroyed that chick outside the store in paris deserves to get roughed up by a mob
00:43:58.380 because macron wanted a negotiated settlement to the gaza conflict really are you saying that he
00:44:03.180 is saying that. And as he says it, you can feel what is absolutely real, what he has expressed
00:44:08.280 in public before, which is hostility to Europe and Europeans. Now, where does that come from?
00:44:15.240 We're not even going to speculate. We don't know. We don't have to say where it comes from,
00:44:19.000 by the way. We don't have to guess. All we have to do is show that it's real. That hatred,
00:44:25.880 that coldness, that contempt, that delight in the suffering of Europeans is everywhere.
00:44:31.820 it's everywhere including in our country ask yourself in this moment of resurgent tribalism
00:44:40.560 in the united states and we should note parenthetically that mass migration causes
00:44:44.100 tribalism if you're over 50 and you grew up in the united states unless you grew up in some
00:44:48.140 inner city scenario like philadelphia or new york or something you probably didn't think of yourself
00:44:52.160 in terms of your ethnicity you were just like an american most americans actually had that
00:44:56.080 experience believe it or not i'm an american in fact people were hesitant even to name their
00:45:02.960 ancestry again if you're in some big eastern city yeah the italians and the polacks and you know
00:45:08.060 famously west side story stuff but most americans certainly in the sunbelt in the emerging states
00:45:13.380 the growing states did not identify themselves by their race or their ethnicity because tribalism
00:45:19.380 despite the propaganda you doubtless heard was not the defining fact of american life but it
00:45:25.960 is becoming the defining fact of American life, as it always does through mass migration. When
00:45:32.060 there's no working majority of anything, people retreat to their tribes, and their compassion
00:45:37.800 evaporates, their suspicion grows, always and everywhere. But in the United States,
00:45:45.640 it is also true that one form of tribalism is not only banned, legally banned, probably,
00:45:53.680 is it a crime to be a white supremacist whatever that is to be aware of your whiteness
00:45:58.640 probably talk about it enough and you're definitely going to get surveilled by the
00:46:04.960 federal government but more than that more than that it is the one ethnicity that is not only
00:46:13.440 okay to discriminate against but to openly hate and to call for genocide against now how do we
00:46:19.640 know that? Well, just from the reading lists at our leading universities. And every single one of
00:46:26.200 them has a roster of books dedicated to calling for killing white people. Oh, that's an overstatement,
00:46:32.280 is it? Is it? White fragility, white rage. These are books about how the concept of whiteness,
00:46:41.480 when they've sort of tried to elide the genocide accusation by making about whiteness, inventing
00:46:47.600 a new term but basically these are attacks on white people if they were attacks on jewishness
00:46:51.900 or blackness chineseness they would be called rightly what they are which is attacks on a people
00:46:57.360 for characteristics they were born with and they're everywhere here's our favorite just
00:47:03.620 because it's hilarious ever this is like the most amusing thing ever is a book by professor
00:47:08.820 professor jonathan metzel of vanderbilt university called dying of whiteness how the politics of
00:47:15.420 racial resentment is killing America's heartland and what's hilarious about it
00:47:22.420 is that the American heartland is dying of course but probably not because it's too white
00:47:29.680 or too aware of being white it's also possible the Sackler family pumping opioids into Appalachia
00:47:37.200 killing hundreds of thousands of Americans in the heartland had some role in its dying
00:47:41.860 were the guys who offshored all the jobs to Asia
00:47:45.240 in order to take a quick hit.
00:47:47.240 That may have had some role in it, maybe.
00:47:50.960 But according to Professor Jonathan Metzl
00:47:53.220 of Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee,
00:47:54.980 it's their whiteness, too much whiteness.
00:47:58.780 Now, again, you don't have to be white or love whites
00:48:01.740 or it doesn't even matter.
00:48:04.200 Who treats another group like that?
00:48:06.660 Who talks like that about other human beings?
00:48:09.200 well only people with genocidal intent that's the language of hate and of course they've
00:48:17.040 constructed this kind of amazing system where pointing out the hate is itself hate and there
00:48:21.800 are a lot of non-profits dedicated to enforcing these absurd completely 180 degree inverted rules
00:48:28.440 and one of them of course is the ADL the anti-defamation league which would defend
00:48:34.340 professor metzl to the end and attack anyone who criticizes professor metzl's obviously
00:48:40.100 genocidal intent whiteness is killing people being white is a crime would attack those people as the
00:48:47.340 criminals and the haters but no this is silly it's obvious now that this kind of language that
00:48:54.980 this ideology is the actual threat how would you rate them the shred of sharia law which we're not
00:49:01.540 for by the way as an Episcopalian not for Sharia law okay but to the average American
00:49:08.280 the threat of anti-white hysteria and hate that results in your kid not getting into college or
00:49:15.600 getting a job or the threat of Sharia law which is I don't know are we on the verge of getting
00:49:21.360 Sharia law probably not don't want it hope we don't get it but that's not coming anytime soon
00:49:29.000 the anti-white stuff is already here and yet no one ever mentions it why is that it's almost like
00:49:36.100 there's a conspiracy of silence to prevent us from noticing the most obvious thing around us
00:49:41.240 which is that our country has totally changed in the same way the rest of the previously white
00:49:47.260 world has changed and it's not an accident it's on purpose and it is somehow a crime to talk about
00:49:55.660 it? No thanks, because clearly we can see where it winds up, which is with conflict. And it would
00:50:04.920 wind up that way in any country in which the demographics changed this dramatically against
00:50:09.860 the will of the population, obviously. So you have to kind of wonder
00:50:17.360 how this happened in this country and this hate posing as concern has been allowed to kind of
00:50:27.420 continue for all these years specifically since 1965 when the immigration law changed
00:50:32.440 and those changes were specifically designed to make the country less white
00:50:36.680 how has this been allowed to continue without anybody saying anything about it
00:50:41.240 how was for example chuck schumer who is the head democrat in the senate allowed to say things
00:50:47.260 like this without being challenged. Watch. Now more than ever, we're short of workers.
00:50:54.700 We have a population that is not reproducing it on its own with the same level that it used to.
00:51:01.780 The only way we're going to have a great future in America is if we welcome and embrace immigrants,
00:51:07.120 the dreamers and all of them, because our ultimate goal is to help the dreamers,
00:51:11.540 but get a path to citizenship for all 11 million
00:51:14.460 or however many undocumented there are here.
00:51:18.860 Okay, I mean, it just says it.
00:51:22.480 So he correctly identifies the problems.
00:51:24.840 The birth rate is falling off a cliff.
00:51:27.100 That's not a surprise to anybody
00:51:30.240 if you create a system in which the majority of the wealth
00:51:32.920 is held by people who are beyond their reproductive years
00:51:35.580 and people 40 and under have 6.5% of the wealth,
00:51:39.120 it's going to be a lot harder to start families
00:51:41.000 and have kids right so and there are a lot of other problems the education system is terrible
00:51:46.520 and drugs are rampant and a lot of problems in the United States but instead of fixing any of
00:51:51.700 them or even mentioning them Chuck Schumer says our goal you can replay it our goal is to help
00:51:57.840 the dreamers and all other undocumented in other words the people we care about are not the people
00:52:03.480 who live here because they're white the people we care about are the people we're importing who are
00:52:08.140 not so he was cheered by all the people around him the emerging coalition but that's an expression
00:52:17.660 of deep hostility toward the people who live here not just a lack of caring not just ignoring
00:52:23.780 this is mocking them as they die using their money and it's had a huge effect so we're going
00:52:33.160 to do something that you're definitely not allowed to do which is read the census numbers
00:52:37.440 Now, the census numbers are a product of the census, which is taken every 10 years, and it's taken because it's mandated in the Constitution. Now, why is that? Because the framers understood, as anybody who runs a country understands, that who lives within your borders is the single most important fact about your country.
00:52:55.100 who lives there is the most important fact because people are always the most important variable
00:53:00.900 in any equation so in order to find out who lives here they mandated and we still do it
00:53:08.160 a census a nationwide census find out who lives here in the census every 10 years and those
00:53:12.840 numbers which are federal numbers available on the internet tell an amazing story but an even
00:53:21.740 greater story is that no one feels free to read those numbers so again if you reach a place where
00:53:28.960 the adl slanders you and you may get debanked by jp morgan chase for reading federal census numbers
00:53:37.600 then you know that something unhealthy is going on here that's not good at all but whatever here
00:53:45.000 are the numbers. So in 1955, New York City, believe it or not, was 90% white. New York City,
00:53:53.700 our biggest city, 10 million people, 90% white. Today, it's 31% white. Chicago was 85% white.
00:53:59.580 Today, it's 32% white. Los Angeles in 1955 was 93% white. Today, it's 28% white. So what do you get
00:54:09.780 when you add all that up you get a non-white country which is despite what you may hear
00:54:16.840 what we already have the three biggest cities in the united states are overwhelmingly non-white
00:54:25.100 in fact there is not a single city in the united states of size that is majority white anymore
00:54:31.760 now again you could say that's great or it's terrible
00:54:35.400 but you first have to answer the question how did that happen nothing like that has
00:54:42.960 ever happened to any country ever how did that happen our three biggest states are in order
00:54:51.960 by population california texas and florida all of them are majority non-white california is like 32
00:54:59.380 percent white texas is in the 40s so and those three states together just those three states
00:55:06.580 not including the other 47 or about 100 million people all told out of a country of 350 so that's
00:55:12.440 the country right there of our cities and cities define a nation of our cities and look this up if
00:55:21.160 you don't believe it there is not a single city in the united states of size that has a white
00:55:27.100 majority not one not one out of all of our cities there's not one city over a million for sure in
00:55:34.580 fact our biggest city i think this is right the biggest city in the united states that's still
00:55:38.020 majority white is boise idaho which is about what 280 000 something like that it's under 300 000
00:55:44.420 that's our biggest majority white city and in 1955 los angeles was 93 white doesn't make you
00:55:52.220 a white supremacist to note that. All demographers know it. They probably talk about it in private.
00:55:59.440 Like, what the hell is that? And it's our turn to ask, what the hell is that? Because
00:56:05.100 is it better? First of all, even if it is better, it wasn't wanted. There was never a referendum
00:56:12.660 on this. And whenever people have been allowed to vote on immigration, in the last couple of
00:56:18.000 presidential campaigns they have been because trump ran on immigration they overwhelmingly vote
00:56:22.440 the majority votes against it they don't want this and by the way not just white people there
00:56:27.000 are a lot of non-white people who don't want new waves of immigrants but all of this the point is
00:56:31.960 was imposed on the american population against its will but not just the american population
00:56:38.780 that's the amazing thing so france and we're all like france has been taken over by immigrants
00:56:42.460 Well, France is about, we think, about 13% foreign-born.
00:56:46.700 That's not as high as the United States.
00:56:48.500 Not even close.
00:56:49.260 Now, our official number, 16%, could be way higher than that
00:56:51.780 because we don't know who lives here
00:56:53.080 because despite all our advanced technology and flock cameras,
00:56:56.220 the federal government hasn't gotten around to figuring out
00:56:58.060 how many people live here.
00:57:00.320 They probably know, but they won't tell us.
00:57:02.240 And it seems very clear there are tens of millions,
00:57:07.140 tens and tens and tens of millions of people here illegally,
00:57:10.300 mostly from third world countries so that's the united states but that's also true in australia
00:57:16.460 which is about 32 percent foreign born 32 percent have you been to australia recently we have
00:57:21.940 doesn't look like the australia that outback steakhouse told you about it's completely it's
00:57:27.620 completely different country maybe it'll be way better or maybe not but how did that happen how
00:57:33.720 that happened to new zealand how that happened to canada which will soon be non-white in its
00:57:39.140 majority. We need to find out how that happened. One thing we know for certain is that it happened
00:57:46.220 with the complicity of those governments. None of this was imposed on any of these governments
00:57:50.560 by force. The leaders of every one of those countries, every white country in the world
00:57:56.780 other than Russia, played along with this. But what was the motive? And instinct tells you it
00:58:03.860 has something to do with the post-war consensus after World War II, which really is our secular
00:58:08.760 religion. Good defeated evil. Order was restored. And by the way, good did defeat evil. Britain was
00:58:16.960 and the US are a lot better than Nazi Germany, for sure. Hitler was bad, of course. But the
00:58:22.920 consensus is a little bit deeper than that. And part of the consensus appears to be that majority
00:58:28.100 white countries are a threat to the world and inherently immoral, therefore we have to get rid
00:58:32.520 of them. And the result is that we have. And the result of that is Paris. And so before we take a
00:58:42.740 single further step down this road, it might be nice to get a clear accounting of the mechanism
00:58:48.620 by which something that none of these populations wanted was imposed on them. And it would be
00:58:54.000 especially gratifying to see the perpetrators of this crime held to account for it, punished for
00:59:00.380 because it is a crime, one of the greatest crimes ever committed. But in the meantime, a lot of
00:59:06.060 people, certainly our leadership class, has no idea that it happened or are unwilling to acknowledge
00:59:10.580 it, don't care. There's a kind of boomer mindlessness about it, a kind of everything
00:59:16.520 will be fine because it always is about it. And that would extend, unfortunately, to our current
00:59:21.660 president here in the United States, the man who was elected twice on the promise to shut the
00:59:26.040 borders and deport the people who are not americans who are living here even that guy somehow all of
00:59:32.760 a sudden is telling us we need more foreigners in a country that has changed beyond recognition in
00:59:38.360 the past 50 years so here's donald trump excitedly chattering about changing the population still
00:59:44.600 more look i've always been in favor of students coming in from other countries that includes china
00:59:50.480 and we have 500,000 Chinese students coming in.
00:59:55.580 I've always been in favor of it.
00:59:57.700 Does it mean that you have to watch people?
01:00:02.340 Yeah, you have to watch students,
01:00:03.800 but you have to watch other people also.
01:00:05.740 I've always been strongly in favor of it.
01:00:07.660 I think it's a great thing.
01:00:08.780 It's also, it's good for our schools.
01:00:10.960 It's good for, I think it's good for our country.
01:00:12.880 I'm also in favor of having them stay.
01:00:15.860 I'm in favor of having them stay.
01:00:17.560 Now, just again, with the caveat that applies to all people, since people are fundamentally
01:00:21.820 just people, good and bad, probably tons of great people in the hundreds of thousands
01:00:27.400 of Chinese students that he's talking about.
01:00:29.700 But that's not really the point.
01:00:31.440 Whether they're great people, they're not American people.
01:00:34.420 And America has too many people here who are not American people.
01:00:37.340 And as a result, the country is becoming fragile and disunified and volatile, and its history
01:00:42.380 is being rewritten.
01:00:43.040 and all of that will continue at accelerating pace unless we slow it way down. But in the
01:00:48.540 mindless boomer mind, it's fine. It's fine. They're great people. This is not what the population of
01:00:56.760 these countries want. They have never wanted it. They've gotten it anyway. And it needs to stop.
01:01:03.980 And if there's one thing we can learn from what's happening in France right now,
01:01:07.480 it's that if you marry the economic stagnation of the boomer economy where only the people at
01:01:13.680 the very top seem to be getting along well and are hoarding the money because they're greed heads
01:01:19.320 if you marry that and the inevitable frustration that it engenders among young people with
01:01:27.660 mass migration which causes your society to be inherently chaotic the churn
01:01:33.500 prevents any kind of national identity from gelling if you combine those two things then
01:01:41.220 people can start burning things down things will get super super crazy you will destroy your country
01:01:46.800 if you do that and that's why smart countries don't do that and for all the lecturing that
01:01:53.160 we've received over the past 20 years about how diversity is our strength and immigrants built
01:01:57.720 this country and if we didn't have immigration we'd be nothing and then windy lectures from
01:02:02.340 some person about my parents came okay stop stop stop for all of that no one has asked the obvious
01:02:07.960 question which is is it true and if it is true then what does china's immigration policy look like
01:02:13.900 and that's especially relevant now because thanks to a totally deranged policy put in place by
01:02:21.460 previous generations of chinese leaders called the one child policy china has demographic problems
01:02:26.420 china was always you know sort of had an abundance of people maybe they would argue too many people
01:02:31.100 too many mouths to feed China now has the opposite problem it has and much has been written about
01:02:36.060 this an aging population and they're worried about that because Chinese leadership whatever
01:02:41.700 you think of them does think long term and they're serious people unlike the mindless boomers who run
01:02:46.840 our society and so you would think just logically if we don't have enough people we need more young
01:02:53.300 people that China would be importing people but China is doing exactly the opposite and you can't
01:02:58.920 argue with its success because china has the largest economy in the world and over the past 30
01:03:03.200 years the fastest growth rate of course china dominates global commerce so what they're doing
01:03:09.680 is working but what they're not doing is importing a lot of new workers despite the fact they might
01:03:15.080 be able to use some so the and you should look this up because it'll make you laugh the chinese
01:03:21.180 immigration rate is zero China gives out a thousand or two green cards permanent resident
01:03:28.660 status cards per year and no one is naturalized into Chinese citizenship ever China is Chinese
01:03:39.600 and weirdly the ADL does not have a problem with that nobody has a problem with that Chuck Schumer
01:03:45.020 does not have a problem with that he's not threatened by Chinese supremacism he doesn't
01:03:50.000 think that's inherently racist for the chinese or the indians who have exactly the same policies
01:03:54.820 or the israelis for that matter he's not threatened by those countries which are all to some extent
01:03:59.640 ethnostates it's only when white countries think about returning to the status quo of 60 years ago
01:04:08.580 that the alarms go off and people start getting surveilled and arrested
01:04:12.420 so the onus is on chuck schumer to explain what that is
01:04:16.060 what it is of course is insane and an act of warfare and cruelty against people who did
01:04:25.540 nothing wrong and this has all been predictable for well we'll just say thousands of years you
01:04:30.940 want to exit this on a quote from aristotle never quote aristotle but this quote is so amazing and
01:04:36.820 this was written 2300 years ago in his famous treatise politics and it's just so clear and
01:04:42.500 sensible that you sort of wonder what the rebuttal from the ADL might be here's Aristotle who by the
01:04:49.660 way was not American he was Greek and his view was this a lack of common dissent is also a cause of
01:05:00.340 revolution as long as the citizens do not share a similar outlook for a state does not emerge out
01:05:05.580 of a random population nor from a chance period of time it's not organic it doesn't it doesn't
01:05:10.620 just happen by accident people come together with people with whom they share fundamental
01:05:16.840 characteristics and beliefs hence those states who have admitted resident aliens and settlers
01:05:22.580 from abroad have mostly succumbed to factional strife yeah that's what's happening to france
01:05:31.160 and in the blm riots of five years ago you could see a foretaste of what might happen here unless
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01:08:19.380 with him yesterday for a conversation about the state of immigration in the United States
01:08:23.720 and what to do about it so that we don't become France. Here's that conversation.
01:08:28.780 Thanks a lot for doing this, Jason. So when people think of immigration, I think they think of unwanted people coming over their borders into their country, taking American jobs, changing the complexion of the country, whatever. That's how people envision immigration. So you just close the borders and it's done.
01:08:46.300 But there's a whole separate variety of legal immigration and one of the forms of it is called the H-1B visa program. And it turns out that's a really significant part of immigration, the immigration picture and a part of the problem. So would you just describe what it is? What is the H-1B program?
01:09:05.300 Yeah, so H-1B was, I mean, is something, H-1 visas existed as early as the 1950s.
01:09:13.600 They were for supposedly special or in particularly meritorious immigrants to come over to the
01:09:18.720 country.
01:09:19.120 Okay.
01:09:20.320 1990.
01:09:20.940 We don't have any of this category of workers.
01:09:23.280 We need them more important.
01:09:24.120 That's exactly right.
01:09:24.920 And so, and then in 1990, they signed something, they're split it out in law.
01:09:28.420 Bush signed it called the H-1B.
01:09:29.900 So the idea was for specialty occupations, right?
01:09:33.600 To your point.
01:09:34.200 Apparently, the American market cannot produce this very particular skill set in enough, and we're supposed to be right, in enough volume or it doesn't exist.
01:09:43.300 And so it was both temporary, tied to a specific individual, and for what they called specialty occupations.
01:09:51.720 And what kind of occupations would those be?
01:09:53.500 So it might have been anything from someone with tech skills, right? And like a lot of it was like about mechanical or other engineering skills and then IT or other development skills. And so out of the gate, okay, hey, we're moving into the digital world. Everybody's in kind of that 90s mindset. And those were the types of roles originally envisioned.
01:10:14.220 Learn to code. And these are people who already knew how to code. So we need to import them.
01:10:17.960 Exactly.
01:10:19.220 Huh. How big a program was it at the beginning?
01:10:21.720 So when it started out, the caps were much smaller. The caps are how many that the government shall issue on an annual basis. And I think it started out at only 20,000 or so out of the gate. And then, and I may have this wrong, I think then expanded to 40,000. Right now we are at 85,000 a year.
01:10:38.260 and we are at another,
01:10:42.100 there's a group that's called cap-exempt universities,
01:10:45.800 nonprofit research institutions,
01:10:47.460 government-affiliated research institutes.
01:10:49.420 That might be another 45, 55, 60,000 every year.
01:10:55.080 So the overall population right now
01:10:57.780 of people who are here on an H-1Bs,
01:11:00.120 the government hasn't done a total count in a while,
01:11:03.140 but it's estimated to be north of 700,000 people.
01:11:06.720 The government hasn't done a count.
01:11:07.680 So they run the program, they bring people in, and then they don't keep track of how many there are.
01:11:12.180 Correct. Or like what I'll say, running total of those.
01:11:15.120 And so what I tell people is if this was originally a specific human being certified to do a specific job for this skill set that apparently the American system does not produce, what it has now become is essentially just a foreign mobile labor workforce, right?
01:11:33.040 And the output of that very, very clearly is the depression of wages for Americans.
01:11:40.900 So over the history of that program, let's just say from 1990 when H1B was created, the estimate is it's above 3 million people overall have been on those visas over the history of that program.
01:11:52.280 And so that impact on all the things that, right, we think about family formation for Americans, right? The ability to grow your way up, right? So not just here's the 700,000 people who are displacing Americans right now. But what about 10 years ago, that person would be moving into middle management, right?
01:12:14.700 That is a good salary, let's say with computer development or computer science.
01:12:23.080 That's a house in the suburbs for an American.
01:12:26.060 That is kids in soccer.
01:12:27.940 So when I think about the program, I don't just think about the individual numbers, but I think about the effect of now a generation of displacement.
01:12:37.040 So the conversation about immigration has changed dramatically.
01:12:43.200 So in 1924, the United States basically ended immigration into the country after decades of historically high levels of immigration, mostly from Eastern and Southern Europe.
01:12:54.180 And there was a sense that the country's getting volatile and we need just a holding pattern for a minute for things to settle, people to assimilate, the country to become united again.
01:13:04.080 And that lasted until 1965 when Emmanuel Seller passed his famous Hart Seller Act.
01:13:10.940 And the country changed completely.
01:13:12.600 But the point is the pressure to stop immigration in 1924 came from home labor unions, because immigration was understood as a tool that employers use to depress the value of labor, because if you've got more of something, it's worth less, right?
01:13:28.760 Supply and demand.
01:13:30.260 Then the conversation became, and it kind of still is about race.
01:13:35.120 And it was like, well, if you're against immigration, you're a racist.
01:13:38.620 and that was used that slur was used as cover by employers to continue doing what they've always
01:13:45.600 done which is to disempower labor right but there's nothing you could kind of say because
01:13:52.820 you were a racist and the labor unions which are irrelevant now and also complicit in this
01:13:57.580 went along with it yeah am i missing it no and i and the evidence of that is in a system that
01:14:04.560 started again for this temporary supposed need for individual position A or B, right? And the
01:14:12.220 vice president talked about this. He said, all of these, H-1B, all these other programs are just a
01:14:16.320 pathway to permanent residence. That's all that they are, right? And so if the answer was, hey,
01:14:20.480 I had this individual finite need as a company because I can't find it here and I'm willing to
01:14:24.820 maybe down the road invest in growing Americans who can do that, that would be one thing. But
01:14:29.440 the reality of the program is you get here. There are student visa statuses that allow people to
01:14:34.860 work. You've got the H-1B and they all flow into that eventual permanent status. What is the
01:14:39.820 evidence of that? About a year ago, they took a survey of FHA-backed mortgages, right? And this
01:14:46.920 is, people think about this in terms of North Texas, where we've seen this dramatic change.
01:14:50.640 One in every 17 FHA-backed mortgages issued in this country two years ago was to someone here
01:14:57.680 on a temporary status was to a foreigner here on a temporary status why would fha federally backed
01:15:04.180 be giving taxpayer guaranteed mortgages to foreigners because they knew that they were
01:15:10.880 going to be here because they knew the program right was never really temporary but why would
01:15:17.680 for sure yeah but why would the other side of the federal government fha be doing this for people
01:15:26.300 who are not American citizens
01:15:27.460 when American citizens can't buy homes.
01:15:29.340 Yeah, I don't think there is any good reason.
01:15:32.360 But fortunately, this administration has stopped that
01:15:34.940 and taken that down to zero
01:15:35.960 as of, I think, May or March, 2025.
01:15:39.340 And so the way that I look at that too, right?
01:15:41.580 So if you think about FHA in particular,
01:15:44.200 it's insidious because that is how you get your starter home.
01:15:48.840 And so every time we think about this now,
01:15:51.440 and this is to your point, right?
01:15:52.400 In 1924, we came to this realization as a country.
01:15:54.720 it is where i think we're at the beginning of that movement maybe we're 100 years right maybe
01:16:00.140 we're two years behind schedule but what the american people i think are waking up to is that
01:16:04.980 term racist doesn't keep them quiet as much anymore right that the great well of um the great
01:16:12.120 well of of well-being for foreigners uh is running out understanding that the asylum program
01:16:20.560 has been completely run through with fraud and is illegitimate like we are catching up to
01:16:25.840 um the moment in terms of recognizing that we're going to have to put americans first in some
01:16:32.740 realistic capacity and so like when you think about right all of the places that the business
01:16:38.480 community is is going to push for these things they they here's a lobby that doesn't want to
01:16:42.880 curb illegal immigration here's another lobby that just wants the agricultural workers right
01:16:48.160 Here are the tech guys that don't want to curb H-1B.
01:16:52.320 I just think that like what they have to recognize is,
01:16:56.080 or let me put that more simply.
01:16:57.440 They just need to read the room.
01:16:58.580 Like this movement is coming.
01:17:00.780 The restrictionist movement, I think, is going to continue.
01:17:03.620 There's a new justification for continuing it.
01:17:06.100 So I do think there's a recognition that people are just,
01:17:09.580 the idea that I complain about being mistreated
01:17:12.520 and I'm the bad guy for complaining about being mistreated.
01:17:15.220 My kids can't get into college.
01:17:16.220 My kids can't get jobs.
01:17:17.020 shut up racist like i think that's kind of over shut up anti-semite or whatever they're calling
01:17:20.760 you yep now the justification is well it's of course we need it for tech and that's a national
01:17:27.260 security question like we're literally going to get nuked unless we keep silicon valley supplied
01:17:34.060 with h1bs from india yeah i mean they're kind of making that case right yeah but i i think there's
01:17:40.240 been enough progress like the way that i would suggest it is uh what we've seen is moving against
01:17:46.440 the program. I mean, they just suspended Microsoft from the PERM program, right? Which is the ability
01:17:53.140 to recommend for green cards as well as Adobe. And, you know, there's been these, what I'll call
01:17:58.540 like other investigations that are coming forward under something called Project Firewall that was
01:18:03.360 announced by the Department of Labor. Like for an administration that is, you know, big tech was
01:18:09.520 part of that coalition coming in in 2024. These are real moves that are happening in terms of
01:18:15.460 reigning in this program or at least pushing it back towards what it was originally meant
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01:19:30.700 So that's, well, that's certainly gratifying to hear.
01:19:38.200 H1B admittance into the country, are they taking jobs that Americans can't do?
01:19:44.320 Like practically speaking?
01:19:45.780 No.
01:19:46.300 And here's the way to think about that, right?
01:19:49.220 So there are levels of, the way the H1B program is administered, there are levels within any occupation.
01:19:56.300 So we'll just stick with software developer because we've been using that, right?
01:19:58.380 So there's levels one, two, three, and four.
01:20:00.700 and four being the highest. And it's theoretically tied to different occupation skill and amount of
01:20:06.680 responsibility, one being the lowest. And then those are tied to a prevailing wage. It's a
01:20:10.740 percentile thing. The vast majority of the H-1B applications are at those bottom two layers of
01:20:18.560 the experience route, right? So everything we hear, the example, I think the vice president
01:20:22.600 used this example of, you know, it's an American accountant being replaced, making 60K a year,
01:20:30.180 being replaced by an Indian accountant making 45k a year. Like the program was largely concentrated
01:20:36.760 at those lower ends of the wage scale. And so the idea that those were skill sets that could
01:20:43.940 not be replicated here, in my opinion, that fiction has revealed itself as no longer being
01:20:50.060 the case. And the reality of it is that's every program that eventually succumbs to institutional
01:20:56.720 capture over time. The idea that, you know, hey, a program that was originally meant to be for
01:21:02.940 specific specialty field is now a function of labor depression. It's a way to keep wages low.
01:21:10.000 Let me suggest to, right, so there's the program PERM, which is where you move over to get the
01:21:15.340 green cards. The answer there is you're supposed to have, you're supposed to prove that you tried
01:21:21.420 to hire Americans. And everybody knows that that's been, it's not really happening, right? And they
01:21:26.200 put ads, these companies will put ads in ethnic newspapers and all these things. But people are
01:21:30.240 shocked that that's happening. And my point is, no, the purpose of the system is to get foreign
01:21:35.500 labor over here to serve as cheap labor for these companies. Of course, that check is not well
01:21:42.140 manufactured. It would defeat the purpose of the program, which was to bring people over here to
01:21:46.600 do these jobs. And so when I think about like H-1B as a labor depression mechanism, there have been
01:21:53.180 a variety of studies right and and to be fair some studies say hey the overall boon economic growth
01:22:00.140 balances itself out in some other way maybe that exists but the average h1b worker i saw
01:22:08.220 a recent statistic that was makes 19 000 less than an american doing a comparable job
01:22:14.940 and there are others that say it's about ten thousand dollars less so you have two things
01:22:19.180 happening. You have a program that is now concentrated at the lower end of the labor scale
01:22:23.980 for jobs that are clearly by no real stretch of the imagination specialty. And then you also have
01:22:32.420 them being paid less despite the prevailing wage rules. And that undercuts the ability
01:22:39.340 of Americans in those same jobs to advocate more effectively for increases.
01:22:43.920 so these are not like we're not importing nuclear engineers correct right yep so once people are
01:22:56.600 here so let's say i own a business in the united states and i'm importing people on visas foreigners
01:23:03.320 um on visas how many of those visas do i get well if you are there's a couple different types
01:23:11.900 So if you are looking at H-1B, you can apply for as many as you want.
01:23:19.040 And again, they issue 85,000 or so a year.
01:23:21.960 And then there's a bunch of existing ones where if someone is here on an H-1B status,
01:23:26.860 they can transfer to a new employer.
01:23:28.480 So you can collect another one that way.
01:23:30.380 And it doesn't count against your cap.
01:23:33.340 But the way to think about what you were talking about is the employers want to bring these
01:23:37.180 folks on.
01:23:37.780 It's really just a supply chain of cheap foreign labor.
01:23:40.420 It starts at the university level. There's something called the curricular practical training. It is the right for a student here on an F1 visa to work in the United States while they are an undergrad, while they are a student, right?
01:23:55.500 And the program we can talk about is extremely corrupt, but here's an easy way to think about it.
01:24:02.860 You are a university.
01:24:04.780 You advertise this ability to eventually work as part of the way you get students here.
01:24:09.880 That employer hires that foreign student.
01:24:13.100 It's no visa.
01:24:13.900 It's just a status that exists as a subfunction of your F1.
01:24:17.680 That employer gets to hire that student and not pay FICA taxes on that student, 7.65%.
01:24:23.900 So they are immediately cheaper.
01:24:25.500 than hiring an American student for that job.
01:24:28.280 The foreign student themselves does not pay FICA taxes.
01:24:32.920 So they are taking home more of their paycheck
01:24:35.500 than the American student working directly next to them.
01:24:39.240 What?
01:24:39.440 Yeah.
01:24:40.020 And then you're the university.
01:24:42.560 You get to charge that full freight tuition
01:24:46.600 to that foreign student
01:24:47.880 that our universities have become so addicted to.
01:24:50.700 And so that is the beginning of a supply chain
01:24:52.800 of foreign labor.
01:24:53.600 Why does the-
01:24:54.500 That is totally crazy.
01:24:56.540 They don't have to pay FICA,
01:24:57.520 which for people at the low end of the labor scale
01:24:59.880 is often higher than your income taxes.
01:25:02.460 Correct.
01:25:03.020 Your FICA taxes are higher than your federal taxes.
01:25:05.540 Yep.
01:25:07.240 And so the idea is they're here temporarily
01:25:08.820 so they don't have to, in those student...
01:25:10.680 But why would you give an advantage
01:25:12.120 to non-citizens in the labor market?
01:25:14.440 Yeah, well, because everybody involved...
01:25:18.020 Two answers.
01:25:18.800 The easier one is because our Congress is...
01:25:21.120 And even though that program's not in statute,
01:25:22.440 but our Congress is, you know, bought by interests who are addicted to cheap labor.
01:25:27.300 But the easier answer, why does that program exist the way it does,
01:25:30.460 is because every incentive points at it continuing.
01:25:33.520 The university benefits, the foreign student benefits, and the company benefits.
01:25:38.160 There's no institution in American life that's more corrupt than the universities.
01:25:41.680 Correct.
01:25:42.080 It's the medieval church.
01:25:43.020 Yeah.
01:25:43.420 It's the sodomy in the pews.
01:25:44.540 You know, it's like totally corrupt.
01:25:46.180 Yeah.
01:25:46.700 And not only that, the universities get the J-1 visas, which I think Vance called out,
01:25:50.320 which is exchange visas that are issued.
01:25:53.900 And so then they employ these postdoc
01:25:56.580 and these researchers.
01:25:57.920 And so they can have those individuals.
01:26:00.100 Then they have the curricular training program.
01:26:02.060 I'm sorry, the curricular practical training.
01:26:04.420 All that they're finding is ways
01:26:06.780 to not employ Americans.
01:26:08.660 And everybody you talk to who works at a university
01:26:10.540 over the past 15 or 20 years
01:26:11.960 has talked about the cultural change
01:26:13.460 just within the actual working for the administration
01:26:16.820 because they've been able to so successfully depress
01:26:19.960 wages here. So then there's another program, if I can keep going, called the Optional Practical
01:26:25.900 Training. This is generally for people who have now graduated. So you come over here, you're on
01:26:32.280 CPT. Now you graduate. You, again, no visa issued yet. This is pre-H1B, can work for 12 months.
01:26:41.380 If you're STEM, you can have a 24-month extension. So you graduate from college,
01:26:48.080 You get that first job. Let's say it's a great paying job. It's $1,000 a year. You're still not
01:26:55.780 paying FICA. So to an employer who's picking from college graduates, there are about 2 million of
01:27:04.100 those every year. We issued 290,000 of these OPT registrations this year. So of our 2 million
01:27:14.060 graduates, and there's another maybe 800 or a million of associate degrees, but let's just say
01:27:18.820 the pool is 2 million, 290,000 foreign graduates authorized to work in the United States just
01:27:24.940 last calendar year competing against our American graduates. You could take a mad scientist and tell
01:27:32.680 them, come up with a program to maximally disadvantage American students, who you mentioned
01:27:39.000 earlier we told go learn to code move your way up this economic value chain this is like this is
01:27:44.160 what they would come up with so that company is again saving 7.65 out of the gate the foreign
01:27:50.180 student is taking home more of their paycheck than the american student and the university has
01:27:54.380 gotten to advertise this as part of their package to attract again additional foreign students at
01:27:59.800 for full freight so the whole point of the universities i thought was to exist as the
01:28:07.540 engine of advancement for ambitious smart americans that was i thought that was the
01:28:12.200 whole point of the gi bill and the whole point of the meritocracy that we built post-war
01:28:15.900 was we use standardized testing to identify the smart ambitious people we funnel them into these
01:28:20.540 universities and they've worked their way up the ladder to manage our country and our empire
01:28:25.620 yep and that was all lie turns out people feel this intuitively by the way i think they do but
01:28:31.880 you're describing the mechanics of it which are really dark yeah so how hard would it be to end
01:28:36.640 that. So that program, as a lot of folks know who have been keyed in, and I think Senator Eric
01:28:41.820 Schmidt's been involved here, that program is not prescribed in statute. It is something that
01:28:48.700 exists via DHS regulation. So what the administration has done is, and I follow this
01:28:55.840 stuff not because I'm affiliated with them, but just because I am just a restrictionist immigration
01:29:01.100 sort of fan and there's been a lot of movement. What they have done is announced as a regulation
01:29:10.340 a fee. And a lot of folks may be familiar, there's a $100,000 fee and we can talk about that imposed
01:29:17.460 last year via presidential proclamation for H-1B and it got struck down. It was in effect last
01:29:22.400 cap season. The OPT fee is being proposed now through like the formal notice and comment
01:29:28.000 program, et cetera, et cetera. And they're proposing that for every single one of those
01:29:34.540 issued, the university, not the employer, the university will have to pay $70,000.
01:29:40.300 And then for anybody where they want to exercise the 24-month extension for the graduate,
01:29:45.660 I'm sorry, for the STEM graduate, it's another $30,000. And so the idea here is to say to the
01:29:52.480 universities, you no longer have a chance to, if you're going to use this as a recruiting
01:29:58.140 mechanism, which is really what it is. And again, everybody in that little circle benefits.
01:30:02.700 That investment needs to be worth you paying $70,000, whether you pass that on to the employer,
01:30:07.800 you find another way to recoup it. And then what I think the administration probably learned from
01:30:12.260 is what happens if they can't collect that fee? And so essentially in the regulation,
01:30:19.840 what they wrote is, if we are unable to collect this fee due to lawsuit or injunction or any other
01:30:26.940 court action, it will harm our ability to effectively administer the program given the
01:30:34.700 risk of fraud that has been discovered at various points in the program. And then the administration
01:30:39.220 will retain the right to kill the entire OPT program. And so it's a smart way that they've
01:30:45.520 written it to kind of last. When you look at some of the term one stuff that got struck down kind of
01:30:49.340 at the end of Trump's term one.
01:30:51.340 A lot of what they're building now around
01:30:53.700 reforming these processes,
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01:32:10.240 So people on the internet went crazy a couple of weeks ago
01:32:14.000 in their photographs,
01:32:14.900 the University of Texas
01:32:15.640 at Austin online.
01:32:17.240 And it's like, wait,
01:32:17.820 a lot of the people
01:32:18.340 in the picture,
01:32:20.140 it wasn't just that
01:32:21.360 they weren't white.
01:32:22.060 They clearly were not
01:32:22.820 from this country at all.
01:32:24.320 And people said,
01:32:25.240 well, wait a second,
01:32:25.820 this is a public university
01:32:26.760 that we support
01:32:28.340 with our tax dollars,
01:32:29.980 state and federal.
01:32:32.080 And why is it filled with people
01:32:34.360 who aren't from the United States?
01:32:35.960 And the answer,
01:32:36.820 as always,
01:32:37.640 was shut up racist,
01:32:39.320 including from all the Republicans
01:32:40.540 in the Texas delegation
01:32:41.640 who I hope will all lose soon.
01:32:44.000 along with their democratic friends.
01:32:45.860 But anyway, I think that's a real question.
01:32:49.980 These are for us, these universities, we pay for them.
01:32:53.180 We built them, they're ours.
01:32:55.000 Why are they being maintained for the rest of the world?
01:32:59.160 Like, how did that happen?
01:33:00.260 Yeah, well, I mean, I look-
01:33:01.480 Your kids can't get in,
01:33:03.080 but people from other countries can.
01:33:04.780 Like, what is that?
01:33:05.460 Yeah, I look at it in two different lenses
01:33:08.120 and I'll answer that a little more specifically.
01:33:09.980 So one, I'd see the universities as BlackRock,
01:33:12.860 as these other, they are entirely institutionally captured.
01:33:16.740 Half of them, not the public ones as much,
01:33:18.400 but have endowments that insulate them
01:33:19.900 from any real pressure.
01:33:22.040 Which are not taxed.
01:33:23.100 Correct, right?
01:33:24.200 So they get-
01:33:25.200 How are their endowments not taxed?
01:33:26.880 I don't know.
01:33:27.660 Think about that.
01:33:28.460 Non-tax endowments, J-1 visa so that they can have-
01:33:31.980 You get taxed?
01:33:32.840 I sure do.
01:33:33.800 Oh, okay.
01:33:34.880 J-1 visas so that they can bring over
01:33:36.820 these postdoc researchers, underpay them.
01:33:38.680 No pretense even of a prevailing wage,
01:33:41.060 of pretending to hire an American.
01:33:42.120 None of that exists in the J-1 program. And then the CPT program, Curricular Practical Training
01:33:48.740 for Undergrad Labor. No pretense that they had to hire an American, no prevailing wage. None of
01:33:54.440 these controls are built into a lot of these other visas. And so the universities are as ruthless
01:34:00.780 as any caricature we have of a private equity firm or any of these other things. And they have
01:34:06.760 moved away from serving the American people. And what I sense, like, so last week I went and talked
01:34:12.460 to the Texas Young Republicans group and they were fired up. And the week before I was in
01:34:18.320 Knoxville, I talked to a group of young Republicans there. They understand very intuitively and are
01:34:24.380 speaking explicitly about the fact that these institutions are no longer for them. They
01:34:28.900 understand entirely that they're going to have to build from scratch, right? And so there is both
01:34:34.060 that what i'll call the tech bro model i got to go start my own thing but that feels devoid of
01:34:39.340 meaning to to a lot of them and so what i what i see is there is a need the young men understand
01:34:47.020 that the universities uh have no stake in their future well hate them exactly and and teach people
01:34:54.460 that that hate is the right thing i remember that when i was in in undergrad and and hearing from
01:34:59.180 people uh i remember literally uh i was on a college i was in i went to penn state and um i
01:35:05.460 didn't know uh about all of that antagonism necessarily and somebody i knew for a very
01:35:12.660 long time said well of course you would think that way you're a white male and i i like blanched i
01:35:19.360 didn't know that that was i didn't know that we were dividing ourselves that way and so i i remember
01:35:24.960 the beginning of that culture sort of right back then but so what i've learned from these young men
01:35:30.280 that i've been and it's not just an attitude it's it's encoded in admission standards correct like
01:35:35.860 people are it's jim crow at scale but with the federal government backing at this time not just
01:35:42.140 the government of mississippi and georgia that is correct yeah no i'm highly aware it's still in
01:35:46.560 place, by the way, amazingly. But I don't understand why that's allowed to continue.
01:35:55.860 Yeah. I don't have a good answer for that. Here's the way that I look at it, right?
01:35:59.960 I believe that we're at the beginning of this kind of realignment or awakening that we have.
01:36:05.080 And I mean that like, let me see if I can express this outside of the partisan binary,
01:36:09.400 because I'm still, I was in DC and I'm plugged into X and I drink the Kool-Aid sometimes.
01:36:14.160 we are in the beginning we are the beginning of a realignment where i in my brain these things
01:36:20.820 seem obvious to me but i realized that like we haven't actually won the argument yet um and so
01:36:27.320 all of the things we go wait a second why did we just tolerate that for 30 years you kind of shake
01:36:32.020 yourself out of that stupor but we're at the very beginning of that and so the realignment that i
01:36:36.840 have when you when you notice something like that that is obviously corrupt and obviously
01:36:40.000 Why would we permit that? The old incentive structures that were there are still exerting influence, right? Or from a pure electoral perspective, 2024, it was a big tent that got the president across the stage. There are inherent pressures built into that.
01:36:56.880 And so where I'm going with that is the way that the realignment, I think, will happen is we are further into the era of populism, but not anywhere near the crest.
01:37:10.600 And the American people are starting to look around and recognize that, like, if they do not loudly demand that they are put first, all of these things will persist into perpetuity.
01:37:22.460 So the media loves to scare the crap out of you with reporting about crises.
01:37:26.860 Some are fake.
01:37:28.420 Some are not fake, which is real.
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01:37:57.380 So how can you prepare for whatever is coming
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01:38:43.380 Well, yeah, and they'll accelerate
01:38:44.880 And like multiculturalism is not possible.
01:38:48.920 It's never existed anywhere at any time.
01:38:50.800 There's always one culture.
01:38:52.600 It may be multiracial, even multireligious.
01:38:57.260 That's all possible.
01:38:58.460 Multicultural is not possible.
01:38:59.900 There's a dominant culture
01:39:01.040 and every other culture is subsumed into it
01:39:03.780 or destroyed, period.
01:39:05.060 That's just the way people are.
01:39:06.940 So, you know, someone's in,
01:39:09.880 a culture is in charge.
01:39:10.840 You have a culture.
01:39:11.660 and uh so you either assert yours because you think it's worth saving or you lose it period
01:39:17.160 and it's not the same as race but whatever no i i strongly agree with you i also wonder like
01:39:26.360 can i just ask you about ai because i think it's connected to this
01:39:30.040 so ai is you know the the hope of the american economy and the biggest companies in the country
01:39:37.880 are all in. They're leveraged for, I mean, they just put everything into AI. AI doesn't produce
01:39:43.460 a ton of revenue, but the hope is that it'll be the great driver of revenue in the American
01:39:49.040 economy. Where's that money coming from? That money is effectively the future of American
01:39:54.780 young people. They won't have jobs and that savings is the revenue that these companies
01:40:01.000 we're banking on, right?
01:40:02.740 It's a labor-saving technology.
01:40:05.380 That's what it is.
01:40:06.580 So I don't understand
01:40:08.080 how you could import anybody
01:40:10.340 into your country on an H-1B
01:40:12.480 or any other kind of visa,
01:40:14.380 legal or illegal,
01:40:15.560 with that looming on the horizon.
01:40:17.660 Like, what the hell is going...
01:40:19.140 Is no one noticing this?
01:40:21.000 Nobody's going to have a job,
01:40:22.060 but we're still importing people?
01:40:22.940 Like, what are they going to do?
01:40:24.520 Yeah, and I think that that is...
01:40:26.500 When you look at some of the actions
01:40:27.520 that have been taken
01:40:28.120 by the administration,
01:40:29.660 and i'll name a couple here in a second the goal right now what they've achieved is to move at
01:40:36.100 least that visa program in particular h1b back up the labor chain right and away from the the jobs
01:40:41.480 that let's say let's suggest are more likely to be swept away by that but let me answer that more
01:40:46.060 broadly because i don't want to cheat on my answer is what we're seeing right now is i think the
01:40:51.120 american people are waking up to that and to my point recognizing that nobody will advocate for
01:40:55.100 it might like right politicians are a function of the overton window that the culture presents for
01:40:59.000 them. And so, like, if you look at what Brandon Gill is introducing in Congress, what Crane or
01:41:06.860 Self or Chip Roy, there is an H-1B reform bill. It doesn't go far enough, but it's the first
01:41:11.500 major thing in many years. I think we're at the beginning of a realignment where the American
01:41:15.920 people are saying, like, you will either put us first or we will be displaced. There's no longer
01:41:21.160 an in-between. Or I use a phrase, we will have mass deportation or we will have mass importation.
01:41:26.560 there's no longer a third option available to us. Our political opponents, and by that I'm not
01:41:32.380 presuming, I say our, typically I'm talking to Republican groups, I say our political opponents
01:41:38.120 have decided that for us because they are committed to the wholesale industrial importation of
01:41:42.340 people into this country. So we will have one of those too. So when I think about like AI,
01:41:49.080 if it's going to start to move its way up that value chain with these replicable tasks, et cetera,
01:41:54.100 right i think about what the administration did in in i'll call it the first year uh so h1b you
01:42:01.240 have all of these uh uh lottery tickets right and so and then that's how they pull to get to the uh
01:42:07.040 the 85 000 cap so there there is a a system in place where you submit that and it used to be
01:42:14.540 more robust but essentially what you do is you put in someone's name their passport information
01:42:18.340 We need this employee because they have this irreplicable skill set, you know, all out of the same countries.
01:42:25.120 Right.
01:42:25.780 And then we put a $100,000 fee.
01:42:28.940 It was via presidential proclamation currently blocked by the courts.
01:42:33.120 So $100,000 for any of these to be awarded to a company.
01:42:37.940 So that company now has to decide, am I willing to spend $100,000 to have this person for three years?
01:42:44.020 And by the way, H-1B is for three years.
01:42:45.560 It always gets extended for the next three.
01:42:47.000 and then most of the time then it gets turned into what's called perm and so a green card
01:42:52.140 application so you get essentially it's to infinity is what it really means but the company
01:42:56.500 has to decide that um and what we found is that and that was for new it was for a company to bring
01:43:03.740 over somebody new into the country to have an h1b um uh visa issued to them uh and what we found is
01:43:11.540 that nobody was really willing to pay that. 700 positions overall, that's all that were filled
01:43:19.560 under this new $100,000 fee that was in effect in the last what's called cap season or lottery
01:43:25.300 season. And I'll talk in a minute about where all those folks went to. But there was a second thing
01:43:30.660 that was initiated, right? And it was called the wage-weighted lottery system. So if you are a
01:43:36.160 level one, which is, let's say, within that software developer skillset, you are someone
01:43:41.100 towards the lower end of that experience level
01:43:42.740 and skillset, et cetera.
01:43:44.100 You have to be paid at the 17th percentile
01:43:47.660 of that entire occupation.
01:43:50.500 And then there's different prevailing wage levels.
01:43:53.260 Well, that's where all the outsourcers were coming in.
01:43:56.380 They were sweeping up at level one and level two
01:43:59.060 and displacing again Americans for jobs
01:44:00.920 that were clearly in no way specialized.
01:44:03.480 Vance's accountant example.
01:44:05.440 So what the administration did is said,
01:44:06.700 well, level one is now worth one lottery entry.
01:44:10.220 A level two is worth two.
01:44:11.680 A level three is worth three.
01:44:12.680 A level four is worth four.
01:44:14.300 So they drastically changed the scale
01:44:16.380 of how these will be awarded,
01:44:19.300 saying if you have a level three or a level four,
01:44:23.360 theoretically work that you could argue is more specialized
01:44:25.640 or at least is not displacing people
01:44:28.780 who are on a more vulnerable end of the labor scale.
01:44:33.020 And it worked, but not maybe as much as we wanted to,
01:44:36.120 but it drove the percentage of those up
01:44:38.700 towards those level three and four by 20 or 30%.
01:44:42.420 So not a perfect fix, but real progress.
01:44:46.200 And then what happened, I mentioned the $100,000 fee
01:44:48.540 because that one got some media attention.
01:44:53.340 Companies weren't willing to pay
01:44:55.620 to bring somebody new in at that cost
01:44:57.120 because it defeats the entire purpose of the outsourcers
01:44:59.880 whose job it is is just to traffic in these lower end jobs.
01:45:03.980 So one that's become somewhat infamous,
01:45:06.420 they're based in New Jersey, is called Cognizant.
01:45:08.700 Cognizant's number of H-1B applications that kept season declined 100%.
01:45:13.020 TCS, I think it was, Tata Consultancy Services, 97%.
01:45:17.700 Like it just, it discouraged them from trying to take advantage of that lower end of the labor market.
01:45:23.880 And, but these things got filled, right?
01:45:27.860 We still filled 85,000.
01:45:29.380 So where did they come from?
01:45:30.640 They came from largely the existing student population that I mentioned earlier.
01:45:35.680 OPT, those graduates who are already here on an F-1 visa, they can transfer to an H-1P.
01:45:43.080 And so that's how they filled all those jobs, the majority of them. And so what the administration
01:45:49.080 is now doing, so, but I would argue by the way, that that in itself was still a public good. Here's
01:45:54.020 why. Because we did not at least by tens of thousands increase the size of the foreign
01:45:58.500 labor pool that's competing with American workers, right? So here's what the administration then is
01:46:03.280 doing, I think this was in September, they are now recommending a new fee. And this one is through
01:46:09.280 the notice and comment period, all the right regulatory stuff, boxes are being checked.
01:46:13.620 And so they said, okay, we estimate that this costs federal agencies and departments about
01:46:18.080 8.8 billion a year to run the program, to administer the program or costs to the government,
01:46:24.380 whatever that was. We're going to divide that by 85,000 and we're going to charge companies
01:46:29.000 $103,000 for every single H-1B awarded, not just new people coming in, but anything that
01:46:37.820 fills that cap to include people who are on the student side. And so the idea here is we're going
01:46:44.220 to limit the amount of new foreign labor coming in under this mechanism, which does exist in
01:46:49.560 statute. And then we are going to limit the main feeder of individuals who are here from students
01:46:55.800 that feed into the H-1B,
01:46:59.180 and then companies can decide,
01:47:00.680 do they have a truly special or truly unique person?
01:47:02.900 Why don't they just shut it down?
01:47:03.920 Well, I want that too, and quite frankly-
01:47:05.760 I mean, what is this?
01:47:06.540 Yeah, well, the argument I think is,
01:47:09.260 and Vance said the same thing.
01:47:10.240 He goes, if it was up to me,
01:47:11.040 I would just shut it down right now.
01:47:12.080 Who is it up to?
01:47:13.080 Right now, H-1B is in statute,
01:47:15.960 and it literally says,
01:47:17.700 shall issue up to the cap.
01:47:19.480 So it's not an argument.
01:47:21.140 I want the whole-
01:47:21.480 You could just say no.
01:47:22.920 I mean, no one else obeys the law around immigration.
01:47:25.800 The illegal aliens don't.
01:47:27.200 You try to deport them and all these NGOs, Soros-funded NGOs, stage a riot.
01:47:33.700 It's like, okay, the only people obeying the rules are the people who are getting shafted.
01:47:40.380 Yeah, and I explicitly make the argument as it relates to illegal immigration that we're going to have to be willing to defy the courts because illegal immigration is at this point so clearly the purview of the executive, right, or what we'll call immigration enforcement.
01:47:54.520 and Barack Obama guaranteed that
01:47:56.060 with DACA and DAPA
01:47:56.920 and we've just seen that demonstrated right now.
01:47:58.620 Oh, I know.
01:47:59.420 My argument is
01:48:00.520 we are at the beginning of the movement
01:48:02.280 as it relates to legal immigration
01:48:04.240 of people waking up to what needs to happen
01:48:06.880 and that this program you could argue
01:48:08.840 is still what I would call
01:48:10.800 within the scope of our normal politics, right?
01:48:13.840 That the legislature owns this,
01:48:16.860 the administration is working
01:48:17.960 within the boundaries that it can to limit it.
01:48:22.160 Let me give one quick example,
01:48:23.540 But I want to get back to that broader point about legal versus illegal because I was actually going to highlight that disconnect that I have here.
01:48:29.540 I think it's justifiable is the other thing, too, is people can hop.
01:48:33.600 You get here on H-1B, you can hop between employers, right?
01:48:36.400 So the whole thing feels like a scam set up to screw American young people.
01:48:41.540 That's the way it looks to me.
01:48:42.760 Yeah, the way to think about it, right, is the whole point is for these companies to have a cheap foreign labor force.
01:48:48.500 It is to pay a deli salary in Dallas.
01:48:50.980 That's all that this is.
01:48:52.240 And so all of the mechanisms-
01:48:53.120 That'd be fine if our young people were thriving,
01:48:55.300 but they're increasingly radical.
01:48:57.100 All they get is like a lecture.
01:48:58.360 Stop being so radical.
01:48:59.740 Yep.
01:49:00.060 You're watching X too much.
01:49:01.460 It's like, well, maybe they're radical for a reason.
01:49:03.480 Happy people are not radical.
01:49:04.780 Correct.
01:49:05.100 They're moderate.
01:49:05.920 Correct.
01:49:06.320 And what I've always said,
01:49:07.400 and this is about folks on the left and the right,
01:49:08.880 is when someone tells you what they believe,
01:49:11.100 just believe what they just told you, right?
01:49:12.980 And so when I talk to young men who are like,
01:49:17.380 your generation needs to handle this,
01:49:20.160 or we're prepared, right?
01:49:21.440 like those things i believe them i believed bernie sanders when he called for a political
01:49:26.680 revolution i believe dsa members when they say they want to essentially dismantle the constitution
01:49:31.660 so what i tell people is what i describe as the mechanics and each of those individually are
01:49:38.300 surprising they are not surprising when you realize the whole purpose of it is just to get
01:49:42.160 a giant foreign cheap labor force here i mentioned it's about 700 000 right now in the country
01:49:47.000 overall may be higher for H-1B. And OPT itself is 290,000. So you're talking to at least a million
01:49:52.460 people in our country who are here competing against Americans for jobs, the vast majority
01:49:58.780 of which are not specialized in any real capacity. What I also tell people is, even if all those
01:50:07.080 people were not explicitly taking American jobs, the point is they are depressing the wages for
01:50:12.660 everybody, not just the individual software developer who got laid off at 32, forced to
01:50:18.020 train his replacement and now can't find a job, right? And that family is destroyed. They're
01:50:22.120 depressing the wages for everybody. Well, and they're also changing everyone's
01:50:26.820 attitudes. Like our schools are terrible. Even our good schools are absurd. They're not real.
01:50:31.880 And everyone knows that. And so we just rely on other countries to invest in their young people.
01:50:37.840 We think that India does a better job with STEM than we do, which is probably true.
01:50:42.320 So we just let India educate them and then bring them in.
01:50:46.900 So, okay, but there's no incentive to fix our schools for our young people.
01:50:51.640 When was the last time you heard any rich liberal talk about our schools?
01:50:54.840 They don't care about our schools anymore.
01:50:56.160 They used to care about it.
01:50:56.800 Remember, rich liberal ladies would be like, our schools?
01:50:59.260 Well, okay, that's a fair point.
01:51:01.080 They never mention our schools anymore because they don't care,
01:51:03.720 because they don't have to care.
01:51:05.100 Does that make sense?
01:51:05.900 No, it does.
01:51:06.220 there's no investment in our young people even beyond just the wages because there doesn't need
01:51:11.080 to be yeah and and if you think about it like the when i think about the left or liberals let me
01:51:15.820 frame it that way i go it used to at least be that there were articulable elements of a program that
01:51:21.380 i could identify exactly yeah and and now the whether or not they worked we could at least
01:51:25.460 like at least they had head start which like suggested head start was designed to raise the
01:51:29.820 iq of urban children that's why it started you can look it up 1965 and that was a real problem
01:51:35.920 and the IQ of urban kids was too low
01:51:38.280 to participate in our economy.
01:51:39.420 That's real.
01:51:40.020 It's still true.
01:51:41.420 But it didn't work.
01:51:42.820 So then they're just like,
01:51:43.300 we're just going to ignore it
01:51:44.240 and we'll support other people from South Asia.
01:51:47.240 But that's not actually an answer
01:51:49.240 to the problem that still exists.
01:51:51.040 Yeah, and think about Chuck Schumer
01:51:53.140 a couple weeks ago just laid it out there, right?
01:51:54.980 And it's funny because the liberals,
01:51:57.340 they're very explicit sometimes
01:51:59.360 about the fact that they just want to bring everybody in.
01:52:01.600 And then other times they realize,
01:52:02.480 oh, we shouldn't say that out loud, right?
01:52:03.640 It was demographics, right?
01:52:04.820 You get that.
01:52:05.120 But Schumer said, we have to bring these people in because there are communities where people aren't having enough children and we need the economic right. And France makes that same argument. And I say, so there is no proposal to give people hope or to invest in economic policies that would aid in family formation or to just do any of those things.
01:52:22.580 exactly and and my argument is like our my political opponents have have embraced a
01:52:29.300 post-nationalism that like it is hard for us to understand that that era is now here i i used to
01:52:34.700 um hard to say what era that that like that a significant non-minor percentage of of the
01:52:41.240 american population of our fellow citizens have embraced uh a globalist mindset have explicitly
01:52:47.360 cast allegiance with with foreigners like i remember i used to draw um which is to say they
01:52:52.160 they don't care at all about their countrymen at all correct oh i mean they find the idea of
01:52:56.920 nationalism itself right uh yeah but it's one of those ideas that's impulse is not even an idea
01:53:02.840 if it's dressed up as progressive forward-thinking inclusive when in fact its core is hate
01:53:09.920 and resentment of their fellow americans like they're disappointed in their fellow americans
01:53:16.140 they hate them no one hates them more than chuck schumer of course no one and he said it many many
01:53:21.020 times but but it's a common view and then they're like no no this is progressive it's like you don't
01:53:26.360 even care about the people living down the street from you that's called hatred actually and and if
01:53:30.620 you think about it this way right so we talked about here's the tech here's here's where the
01:53:34.620 tech money is here's where the here's where the chuck schumers are and i say okay so you don't
01:53:40.660 want to train us and you don't have any plan at any other phase of people's lives to make it better
01:53:46.220 And I just go, what is going to have to happen when we say, you just kind of have, like, why aren't we enough?
01:53:54.420 Why are you not okay just with the people who are here?
01:53:58.200 Can we endeavor to make their lives better?
01:54:00.240 And so, like, to me, that is what the realignment is going to be.
01:54:02.820 No, but we can monitor them.
01:54:04.400 And then the tech that we're getting is what, like, flock cameras.
01:54:07.400 And you can't have a wife, but she can have, like, an AI chatbot and more realistic pornography and Kratom at the convenience store.
01:54:14.760 it's like none of this it's there's i don't see the upside at all like where is the upside yeah
01:54:21.500 well and there isn't and it's and it's not sustainable right all of the every element
01:54:25.880 of that modern life that you talked about right it is a it is a a cope for the next thing that
01:54:31.620 you have to cope with for the next thing yet like none of it is sustainable and so but they're not
01:54:35.840 even promising a beautiful future they're not even bothering to lie to me yeah right promise
01:54:40.100 me, Eden, anyway, even if you're going to deliver me the Bedford Stuyvesant, at least tell me it's
01:54:45.140 going to be great, but they don't even care. No, but I think for the Chuck Schumers, what they
01:54:48.540 offer is the thing that they are signaling to, the thing that he is signaling to his base is that you
01:54:54.960 can, you know, forget about that old school version of people. You can come up here and be
01:55:01.060 one of the shiny, right, shiny, happy people. If you think about his party as a deal between the
01:55:06.080 super, super elite and the dependent class below them. And they've abandoned kind of everybody in
01:55:12.000 the middle. And the way that I think about that is like- Don't you think they're playing with fire
01:55:16.040 with this? They're going to make people super radical. They are making people super, I can feel
01:55:21.780 it. Yes. I mean, all my spidey senses are alert to this and people are getting radical. The risk
01:55:26.380 that they are, the risk is they are by failing to be that responsive, right? We had an election in
01:55:33.940 2024 for the first time in a long time i participated in that there we go right there
01:55:38.480 was a night of decision that hadn't happened in a while right um and and the goal was we're gonna
01:55:45.300 get rid of everybody all legal aliens are going home here's what we're gonna do and if that if
01:55:50.400 we can't deliver on that if if if and and i'll make an argument right that when we saw our fellow
01:55:57.100 citizens take to the streets, endeavor to physically obstruct federal law enforcement
01:56:03.720 from enforcing law at scale in different cities. If that is sufficient, if the street veto is
01:56:11.680 sufficient for the federal government not to follow through and execute on that policy.
01:56:15.680 You mean mob rule?
01:56:17.260 Right, right. It's what we saw, right? We saw people abandoning, essentially rejecting the
01:56:22.140 results of the election in any practical sense and saying, we refuse to allow the federal
01:56:25.580 government to exercise authority here as it relates to immigration, which was like the key
01:56:29.460 issue, right, in the entire election, then the government loses legitimacy. Forget about a far
01:56:35.000 off census argument or a Democrat, like that lack of responsiveness is the legitimacy crisis
01:56:41.460 that things start to unravel much, much faster than we think. But I mean, we've lived with this
01:56:48.780 for decades the sanctuary city is defiance of federal law eisenhower sent the 101st airborne
01:56:59.820 to central high school in little rock in 1957 because they were defying federal law court order
01:57:03.600 brown versus board of education three years before and i'm principal you just can't allow that or else
01:57:08.560 is this really a country no it's not right but we've been allowing that for i don't know 40 years
01:57:15.900 something like that we're just i don't know tucson doesn't want to participate in the right
01:57:19.600 in federal law like what and everyone's allowed that so at this point can you actually enforce
01:57:25.980 federal law nationally well and we don't know right the doesn't seem like it yeah where we are
01:57:31.440 is at a at a precarious point which is right and forget about we live in an era of political
01:57:35.920 assassinations all those other things right i i we i think i'm saying that i think our political
01:57:40.300 union is straining at its boundaries, but the great test of the immediate term is does federal
01:57:46.900 law apply across the land or not? And if you think about that, the need, the test, the exercise
01:57:56.520 before us is can we recapture American sovereignty? And there is no way to do that that doesn't
01:58:02.560 involve sacrifice or great national effort. And the answer is we just don't know yet. And so you
01:58:08.560 said, well, hey, we let this happen for 40 years. And every American is in some way implicit. We
01:58:16.420 allowed this kind of permanent underclass of people to exist here. But if us saying it isn't
01:58:25.480 enough, isn't enough, I'm sorry, if us saying it's enough isn't enough, then we have a problem.
01:58:30.960 I was talking to a few friends and I said, look, I don't need to look down on Indians or Haitians or Somalis.
01:58:41.340 The reason these people have to go home is because we fucking said so.
01:58:45.140 And if that isn't enough, then the government is right.
01:58:49.180 Exactly.
01:58:49.700 But very literally, to your point, whose country is it?
01:58:53.380 We have a, the, the, I think about the phrase replacement theory. Okay. And, and, and I said
01:59:03.280 to somebody recently, I said, well, Republicans have to stop using the phrase replacement theory.
01:59:08.460 And they agreed with me, but not for the reason. And I said, oh, yes, of course we can't get tied
01:59:11.880 up. And I said, no, no, no. The Ugandan born mayor of New York city called for the end of federal
01:59:17.460 immigration enforcement in the largest city in our country. That's not theoretical anymore.
01:59:23.380 right chuck schumer's telling we have census numbers every 10 years and so anyone who calls
01:59:29.260 it a theory exactly is participating in a lie it's not a theory yes look at the numbers i was
01:59:35.060 born in 1969 let's just plot it out from 1969 has the population of the country in 1969 been
01:59:41.380 replaced by a new population what percentage of people living in the united states say had an
01:59:45.980 ancestor in the civil war right so anyway maybe you think that's great maybe you think it's
01:59:51.840 terrible maybe i don't know who whatever you think of it to deny that it happened is a lie
01:59:56.500 and so like let's not participate in lies how's that yeah and also like you the most important
02:00:01.260 part here you said whose country is it right the the reality is the control of it who will end up
02:00:08.100 owning it is right now up for grabs let me let me suggest why i'm arguing it that way
02:00:13.380 uh aoc or or some other uh you know uh what i will call someone who is unlikely to be more
02:00:21.040 moderate than Joe Biden, may have the presidency in 26, 27 months. Does anybody believe that
02:00:28.420 any of the 3 million or so outstanding asylum cases will be adjudicated under
02:00:33.760 them? Of course not. Biden, they were given a six-year out court date, a work permit,
02:00:41.260 and a free ID. It was a pretense, right? It was abuse of the system for their goal. Again,
02:00:47.080 They've gone under the law. So none of those people, if a Democrat comes to office, none of those cases will ever be heard. And I don't think anybody rationally thinks that they will be. They'll be mass adjudicated. Okay. So that happens. Everybody who's here, what it means to be an illegal alien, they are deliberately blurring it, right?
02:01:06.620 Kathy Hochul, the governor, said this is a working man, right, when there was someone who was shot all these things.
02:01:12.500 So all of the rights and privileges that were unique to your citizenship, right, are being distributed at a state-by-state level.
02:01:20.720 I think the high watermark recently, because I used to talk about the ability for illegal aliens to vote in municipal elections, and that to me is just so alarming.
02:01:27.920 And here's all the benefits that they can sign up for.
02:01:30.120 But in Illinois, you can be a police officer.
02:01:33.800 You can even, I think, be a deputy sheriff if you're an illegal alien.
02:01:36.460 You could get arrested by an illegal alien right now as an American citizen in Illinois.
02:01:40.620 And the courts have walked back some of this, but they're not going to save us.
02:01:44.360 So my point is what it means to even be an illegal alien, they are deliberately blurring
02:01:49.320 that, right?
02:01:50.080 And so if we have two years, my planning horizon, that's why I think, right, our politics can
02:01:55.680 handle the legal immigration issue that I've been advocating for for a long time for it
02:02:00.380 to be seized.
02:02:00.780 I think our politics will get there.
02:02:02.080 But illegal immigration, our political opponents have so abandoned the law that what we will have to then resort to to get this done will itself have to involve those types of compromises.
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02:02:26.780 yeah i mean i can't overstate the bitterness i feel when i hear all of that because
02:02:35.460 you know we just wasted it all for war with iran it's really it's the it's the most bitter thing
02:02:43.920 i have ever seen in my entire life that's how i feel about it but anyway sorry well can i jump in
02:02:49.980 So what I tell people, so I'm arguing in reasonably public areas that we need to hire 250,000 people after the midterms and build what's called a civilian deportation corps.
02:03:05.000 And I'm not here to give a full pitch on that.
02:03:07.140 But what I mean is I have to believe we can still do it in the next two years.
02:03:10.520 I have to believe that we will not hand the country back over to a Democrat without this problem acted upon significantly.
02:03:19.360 because if we do it the the definition forget about the sense the definition of citizenship
02:03:26.040 will splinter beyond repair all of those individual rights that are being granted to
02:03:30.780 legal aliens across the country are strengthening into a real right now parallel rights regime
02:03:36.820 and so to your point whose country is it it might not be ours if that happens oh i of course if you
02:03:42.500 feel that way all of that splintering and you add uh you know a newsom or an aoc who adds another
02:03:48.580 10 or 15 million people back in or in, how do we recover that? If the unitary definite
02:03:56.680 citizenship splinters, there is no good path forward as a country and nor do we really have
02:04:02.500 a model for that. We don't know what to do. I think Americans don't know what to do with that
02:04:07.320 information right now. And so what I think is there is a path forward. And what I hope is it
02:04:13.200 will become more clear as the prospect of handing that power back over comes into sharper relief.
02:04:18.580 And the answer is we stop seeing the American people as a political audience to be abided by
02:04:23.300 or to be placated. And we say the reestablishment of our sovereignty is going to be exceptionally
02:04:28.720 painful. We need you to be part of doing it. And so the linear expansion of traditional
02:04:36.100 enforcement capacity, all the capacity building that was here is good, but the numbers were never
02:04:40.380 going to get close to where we needed them to. It's just DHS literally, it can't do it on its
02:04:44.620 own. And so what I say is we bring the American people along on this journey and we say, help us
02:04:49.660 from a logistics capacity, pick up an extra shift as a nurse. Let's go door to door. We know where
02:04:54.640 these illegal aliens are. Even the ones that didn't come across, we could buy two dozen individual
02:05:00.520 commercial database indicators. And I want to directly communicate with these people,
02:05:06.840 shatter the illusion to them that they've seen the high water market enforcement,
02:05:09.780 text them send them dms we know who you are we're going to be at the post office
02:05:14.800 why don't you go after the employers um i think we should but i don't actually think that will
02:05:19.380 be sufficient on its own really uh yeah i think i think what right now what we're seeing uh are
02:05:25.200 all necessary pieces of what i think will be an insufficient pie here's why so so and by the way
02:05:29.420 worksite enforcement would be probably the individual single biggest leverage than we
02:05:32.640 could do um it would it would it would remove that incentive but we could remove that person's job
02:05:39.580 and we could cut them off
02:05:41.400 from certain federal benefits,
02:05:43.080 but they probably still qualify
02:05:44.940 for three other state benefits
02:05:46.180 and a county benefit
02:05:47.000 and the nonprofit down the street
02:05:48.200 that's helping them.
02:05:50.380 And Sierra Leone isn't going to become
02:05:52.260 that much more attractive to them
02:05:54.000 just because we've cut off
02:05:54.880 some of those things
02:05:55.460 or Haiti or pick your country.
02:05:58.500 So in my opinion,
02:06:00.240 we're going to have to,
02:06:02.360 and again, you sense that
02:06:03.700 if you get through the next 27 months
02:06:05.540 and a Democrat wins,
02:06:06.980 you're never going anywhere.
02:06:08.100 Everybody knows that.
02:06:08.840 And so my argument is the physical removal of millions of people is unavoidable.
02:06:16.240 And the sooner we get serious about doing that at scale, both in terms of building that physical infrastructure, but also in communicating that we're going to build it, the more chance we have of people voluntarily leaving and leaving in these other ways, that will be less disruptive.
02:06:29.200 But I think if we do this the way that I want us to, which is to hire all these people, it is to bring the American people along, but also because it won't get done any other way.
02:06:43.920 If there isn't enough support for this, that 250,000 Americans sign up, we were never going to survive it politically anyway.
02:06:52.500 The model of doing it the way that it's happening now isn't going to marshal that support.
02:06:57.420 There's some smart things you could do communications-wise to sustain the Overton window, but we're not actually asking enough of the American people in terms of having them help kind of deliver on this mandate.
02:07:09.020 Well, they tried something like that with ICE. How'd that go?
02:07:12.820 Well, I think what ICE actually accomplished is very few agencies have done anything at that scale in 20 years.
02:07:20.160 Did public support for deportation go up or down? It went down.
02:07:23.060 It did. And it's remained fairly steady. But my argument is this. What I'm saying is the DHS alone approach is part of it. What I want ICE to do, and there's serious hardworking people right there working until 10 p.m. every night and dealing with all the threats and all the vitriol, I want them to keep enforcing at the scale that they are.
02:07:44.620 and my argument is that exact model cannot be the only face of the effort i'm talking about a
02:07:53.240 civic effort right that enlists americans to do this so did did public support go up or down it
02:07:57.840 went down and and then stabilized and has remained relatively there or a little bit higher but um
02:08:03.900 what i'm saying is don't just think of the american people from a poll numbers perspective
02:08:07.820 bring them into this physically bring them in can i ask though so the ice effort i mean i think
02:08:12.700 Most people, even most Democrats, are like, no, a country should have control of its borders.
02:08:18.040 I mean, what's a country?
02:08:19.160 It's a physical place that has territorial integrity.
02:08:23.040 And that's a non-controversial point.
02:08:27.120 Now, how you go about it, whether you're humane in doing it, there's a lot of subjective elements here.
02:08:32.340 But conceptually, people are for this.
02:08:34.100 it didn't work because there were massive organized violent efforts to prevent it that
02:08:42.060 were paid for not by grassroots support from americans but by a small number of rich people
02:08:47.820 who are totally committed to the status quo the soros ngo world okay that's a criminal enterprise
02:08:55.640 that is thwarting federal law and there have been no arrests of any of those people just as there
02:09:02.820 was never one arrest of anyone who funded the destruction of the midwest during the blm riots
02:09:07.160 so like what why is that different from a drug cartel or the mafia or any organized criminal
02:09:15.000 organization that's like hurting my country but there's been no effort to hold any of those groups
02:09:19.340 to account yeah i think there's two things i think i don't think america knows how to
02:09:23.720 what happened in minneapolis was the single largest um anti-federal uprising in you know
02:09:29.940 I don't know, decades, as long as I've been alive, right?
02:09:31.860 Let's just say since the Civil War, since Fort Sumter, because it seems that way.
02:09:35.200 Right, and so my argument is no one knows what to do with that yet.
02:09:39.780 We have RICO statutes, don't we?
02:09:41.580 Yeah, but I just mean, literally, I'm talking more about people don't know how to process that information.
02:09:47.020 Here's an example I tell people, right?
02:09:49.360 There's still a significant number of American people think that it was that Minneapolis, that we were treated there because of protests.
02:09:58.800 Like, and so what I tell people is a protester doesn't stalk a federal agent at an airport,
02:10:04.720 feed their license plate to a source in the local PD, I don't know, go to their hotel
02:10:09.440 and break windows and then threaten their wives on Facebook.
02:10:11.820 Exactly.
02:10:12.120 It was, right.
02:10:12.920 So we don't yet know, what I'm saying is as a country, we are waking up to figuring out
02:10:18.100 how to deal with that.
02:10:20.440 So you're naming the mechanism.
02:10:21.140 Yeah, but the DOJ exists to deal with that and they haven't, they ignored it.
02:10:24.080 And that's what I find so baffling.
02:10:26.020 It's like, it wasn't that a bunch of rich white housewives like, I feel sorry for the
02:10:30.880 illegals.
02:10:31.300 I'm going to go out and stalk ICE agents at an airport Marriott.
02:10:35.480 That's not what happened.
02:10:36.580 It's an organized group paid to do this from outside of the state, flew in there to do
02:10:42.020 it.
02:10:42.760 It's like, who paid for that and why?
02:10:44.600 And why can't we know?
02:10:45.460 And why aren't they indicted?
02:10:47.080 But they're not.
02:10:47.920 So like, why?
02:10:49.080 Yeah.
02:10:49.360 I don't know.
02:10:51.540 Where the way that I kind of process it, and I really mean that, I don't know.
02:10:56.020 The way that I kind of process this all is there was anti-ice violence starting back in 2013, 2014.
02:11:04.780 People forget that.
02:11:05.560 And there were-
02:11:06.600 Right.
02:11:06.840 And then people physically endeavoring to prevent federal law enforcement back then.
02:11:10.860 And some of them were, they would just chain themselves to the tires of a bus taking people to a detention facility.
02:11:16.920 And then we had Occupy and all those things back then.
02:11:19.880 And then BLM happened and then we had the, you know, the 2024 protests and people blocking roads to JFK or different pieces.
02:11:33.540 What we don't know how to grapple with yet is that one of like the two major political parties in our country has a street arm.
02:11:40.200 And like what the, I just think the right doesn't understand how to apply power in the same capacity.
02:11:45.560 and so when what we have is the de facto reality that we're not doing mass deportation anywhere
02:11:55.160 near the scale that we need to and a significant reason is because there will be violence that
02:12:01.800 american citizens will physically obstruct federal law enforcement at scale in defense
02:12:07.040 of non-citizens i just think like that is a hard thing for people to adjust i couldn't agree with
02:12:12.800 you more and i'm grateful that you're saying this out loud i would just add that that violence comes
02:12:18.700 from organized paid militia with a leadership structure and a funding structure that is
02:12:26.400 discoverable and you know you had the numbers in new york for 90 years you had heroin trade in new
02:12:35.260 york you had prostitution new york had loan sharking in new york and all it was ended with
02:12:40.320 the recode statute by the FBI.
02:12:42.400 They took it down the five mafia families in New York.
02:12:44.980 Like they figured out, where's this coming from?
02:12:47.100 Well, there's an organized criminal group that's doing it.
02:12:49.060 Let's just take them out.
02:12:50.580 But that's what we're seeing here.
02:12:53.200 But there has been no effort.
02:12:54.900 I just think it's one of the weirdest things
02:12:56.460 I've ever seen in my life.
02:12:57.980 It's fair.
02:12:58.800 You know, one of the things I think about too,
02:13:00.740 related to that is we've got a,
02:13:04.200 we've got, we talked about the border a second ago.
02:13:08.000 And I'm saying this to answer what you're talking about.
02:13:10.320 everybody agrees that we should have a strong border okay yeah the the reality is like when
02:13:16.100 the next when the next mass importation wave happens under the next democrat i think they're
02:13:22.880 going to be smart enough to uh avoid the images of caravans right so what are they going to do
02:13:29.160 they're just going to fly everybody of course over and what are we going to do like i'm sorry
02:13:34.160 and i keep saying we i'm used to addressing these right-wing audiences i ask people i say well what
02:13:38.180 is our model for that? How do we organize against that? I remember illegal aliens sleeping on the
02:13:43.340 linoleum floors of Logan Airport. I remember the NGO volunteer, NGO playword for government
02:13:48.520 contractor that happens to be left wing, right? In the vest escorting an illegal alien through
02:13:55.300 the line while all of us waited. So are we going to go challenge those people physically? Are we
02:13:59.820 to form human change around them. Like we don't know what to do against what I will call kind of
02:14:08.700 the unlawful or sublawful actions of the left as relates to these pieces. And so my argument,
02:14:15.420 what you're talking about is clearly something that should happen. My argument is the only
02:14:20.260 approach and the one that, by the way, keeps government legitimacy is to marshal the state
02:14:24.640 in an aggressive capacity and just enforce the law. And what I mean by that is we hire a couple
02:14:32.460 hundred thousand people. We go to all 630 commercial weigh stations. We post up at post
02:14:39.320 offices. We build the 50 city infrastructure that Joe Biden built to mass import people into this
02:14:43.680 country at industrial scale very successfully. Proof that the capacity can exist when the will
02:14:48.960 is there um and we start to enforce this and there will be those protests there will be
02:14:56.480 limited elements of political violence but what starts out as outrageous i think can become
02:15:01.760 ordinary and so the function of your federal government the legitimate state-directed function
02:15:06.060 of your federal government um enforcing a mandate that it was delivered by the people like if we
02:15:10.940 can't do that anymore like i guess when i said i have faith that this will eventually happen
02:15:15.480 it is because i i'm not willing to uh contemplate what will happen if if the if we can't do that
02:15:21.960 anymore because it will yeah so the solution is to hire a quarter million americans to enforce
02:15:30.280 immigration law do you arm them not generally so here's what i want is it isn't just to hire them
02:15:38.300 it is to say that we are you going to mobilize as a country for this or or it's not going to happen
02:15:41.960 right and and and i think europe europeans that i talked to are starting to have that same
02:15:47.960 understanding and both also the the ability to mobilize is the evidence that there would be the
02:15:52.900 political will those things are are right there so what i want to do is is the enforcement um
02:15:59.700 agencies keep doing what they're doing we build a meta layer of infrastructure to relieve and
02:16:05.300 support them. We have 49,000 commercial or charter buses in the country. We have something called the
02:16:12.360 Civil Reserve Air Fleet that can be activated. We have DOD planes. We have the logistics capability
02:16:18.460 and we have people around the country who can deploy that skill set. The tougher part, to your
02:16:24.040 point though, isn't just that logistics is again a function of will and dollars and time, is how do
02:16:30.640 you come in contact, let's say ICE gets to that vaunted 3,000 arrests a day that we hear about.
02:16:38.300 And let's say that we even converted those to removals. That would still, even if that was
02:16:43.420 applied for four years full, would still maybe only be 30% of who just Joe Biden brought in.
02:16:49.020 So there has to be a way to scale whether or not the way that I recommend it is the right one.
02:16:53.580 Doing this at scale is a new and different thing than what's occurring right now. And again,
02:16:58.300 despite the really significant work happening in enforcement right now.
02:17:03.860 So how do you make contact with these people?
02:17:06.580 I think that a lot of it can be civilian contact.
02:17:11.260 Hey, we know who you are.
02:17:13.000 Hey, come exercise your right to self-removal.
02:17:15.620 Hey, here's a piece of certified mail.
02:17:17.760 Sign it.
02:17:18.800 But at some point, there will have to be a greater force
02:17:24.020 that comes in enforcement contact
02:17:26.860 with the illegal alien population
02:17:28.340 if we're going to do this at scale.
02:17:29.760 So you can deputize people through DOJ.
02:17:33.140 And again, of course, that comes with risk.
02:17:35.900 You can, DHS can deputize,
02:17:38.340 and that doesn't,
02:17:39.420 DOJ's deputization authority
02:17:40.680 does not confer immigration enforcement authority.
02:17:43.340 DHS can deputize people,
02:17:45.300 but they have to be existing federal employees.
02:17:48.020 So what I'm working to do right now
02:17:49.500 is just mix and match all of these authorities
02:17:51.200 to somehow build towards enough daily contact
02:17:54.780 with illegal aliens
02:17:55.620 that their removal at scale is possible.
02:17:58.840 And so that is a new and different infrastructure
02:18:01.500 than what exists right now.
02:18:03.460 What do you think the incoming Democratic president,
02:18:05.980 assuming a Democrat wins in 28,
02:18:07.600 would think if there were a quarter million Americans
02:18:10.000 out there trying to enforce federal immigration law?
02:18:15.300 Like, what would they think of that?
02:18:16.920 Yeah, they would say there's an army on our streets.
02:18:20.860 it's not loyal to me
02:18:21.860 that I don't command
02:18:22.760 that's dangerous
02:18:23.740 that's how they think
02:18:25.880 I mean
02:18:26.440 look how they treated
02:18:27.460 January 6th
02:18:28.300 was obviously set up
02:18:29.100 right clearly
02:18:29.740 but they still put
02:18:31.480 over a thousand people
02:18:32.600 in prison
02:18:33.120 they were scared of like
02:18:34.360 elderly diabetic
02:18:35.780 grandmothers
02:18:36.600 yeah
02:18:37.340 how do you think
02:18:37.960 they'd feel about
02:18:38.440 a quarter million
02:18:39.100 young people on the street
02:18:40.480 well not good
02:18:41.020 they already tell us that
02:18:41.940 not good
02:18:42.500 they tell ICE
02:18:43.580 they already say ICE
02:18:44.620 is an invading army
02:18:45.560 they say that
02:18:46.500 they're illegitimate
02:18:47.120 they say that
02:18:47.640 they're lawless
02:18:48.200 so we have to
02:18:49.980 just accept that
02:18:50.860 we will either use the federal government and its powers in a way that the left is very comfortable
02:18:55.820 with and the right is still catching up to. And by the way, to your point, employing lots of the
02:19:01.380 underemployed young men and women of our country to a cause, which is who are we? We can do that
02:19:08.240 or we can accept that we do not have a response to the lawlessness of the other side. And that
02:19:15.880 ties to your point which is uh like what january 6 also did with a thousand prosecutions is it
02:19:23.060 killed any semblance of a of of a right-wing street movement of of any protests right of
02:19:28.540 any mass gatherings um that was the point of it right and so there is no like we do not have
02:19:35.600 any other mechanisms which by the way is is is okay we can use the legitimate mechanisms of the
02:19:41.160 federal government and we employ a couple hundred thousand young men and women to a cause that is
02:19:46.840 significant we've done this at scale before the civilian conservation corps i think in the 1930s
02:19:51.700 hired 275 000 people in four months and and just say do you know who ran it no general douglas
02:20:00.200 macarthur ran it really was the largest mobilization in american history yeah fantastic
02:20:05.220 and so and so think about could we be marshaled to that cause it seems crazy right now but i don't
02:20:10.320 think it will, the more that we see what's happening in Paris, or in France, the more
02:20:14.840 that we see, right, the perspective of someone who will come in and industrial scale move
02:20:19.080 another 10 million people into the country. And so my argument is we can either marshal
02:20:23.760 ourselves for that or we are out of other options, really.
02:20:29.460 Is there any way to apply pressure to the current government to just kind of do what
02:20:35.040 it said it was going to do? Well, in my opinion, there is no extension of current capability that
02:20:42.140 gets us there. It has to be something. We got two years left. It has to be something at much
02:20:46.580 greater scale, just from a raw capabilities perspective. I'll give you an example. So
02:20:51.080 one of the successes is the extension of something called the 287G program, right? It's bringing the
02:20:55.980 sheriffs on for immigration enforcement. And sheriffs are one of the greatest tools you can
02:21:00.240 have. They know their neighborhood, right, et cetera. They're all patriotic. They take that.
02:21:02.840 both. But so they've expanded that dramatically. But even that accounts for under a thousand
02:21:10.940 arrests a day, maybe 500. If we're going to do mass deportation in the millions, this is just,
02:21:15.720 it is entirely different enterprise. And so what my sort of going around and talking to folks about
02:21:22.720 that part is much simpler. The only thing that I want to do is start to like kind of do that trial
02:21:29.260 balloon thing you know what i mean where i just go if we're not thinking along these lines
02:21:33.620 then the degree of national mobilization required uh um then we're not going to get there right
02:21:41.680 like that's that's where i'm trying to go on on on the on the promises as it relates to legal
02:21:48.020 immigration i want h1b council i want i called for an immigration moratorium five years ago
02:21:52.800 is there are real things that are happening.
02:21:57.760 You know, some of the things we talked about,
02:21:59.760 the wage way to the lottery,
02:22:00.960 there's other stuff coming down the pike
02:22:02.820 that's been introduced.
02:22:06.580 For example, let me give a quick example
02:22:08.360 I want to get back to is
02:22:09.800 we see all those advertisements
02:22:12.580 in a small ethnic newspaper
02:22:14.480 or somewhere very obscure when an American wants,
02:22:17.000 when a company doesn't want to hire an American,
02:22:18.440 but they have to meet that circumstance for a green card.
02:22:22.180 Well, there's a rule.
02:22:23.300 I haven't read it.
02:22:24.540 But that is, I think, under White House Review right now that is saying, no, you actually
02:22:27.700 have to try to have hired an American first.
02:22:30.280 Like, if you advertise this job on LinkedIn for foreigners, it had to have been previously
02:22:36.020 advertised for Americans.
02:22:37.500 LinkedIn, same with Indeed.
02:22:38.680 Or for H-1B, there's no longer deference to extensions.
02:22:42.700 It is a brand new investigation.
02:22:44.940 And they're going to look at whether or not you as a company have had recent layoffs.
02:22:49.160 So there are things happening on the legal immigration side, and to include the suspensions that we talked about and some other things, they're going to use equal opportunity law to sue companies for discriminating against national origin if they only have H-1B.
02:23:02.880 I believe that the boundaries of our normal politics can handle that. And I believe that Joe Biden broke them over here and that a decade and a half of clear executive branch sovereignty over immigration enforcement broke that. And that the litmus test for 2028 is two things.
02:23:21.340 If you are a Republican anywhere, county, state, national, mass deportation is your
02:23:27.340 litmus test, real in the millions mass deportation.
02:23:29.900 But two, the idea that we would hand over three million unadjudicated or two and a half
02:23:35.700 million or 2.4 million unadjudicated asylum cases, the majority of which right now were
02:23:41.400 people who were coached to do this under Joe Biden, right, is a non-starter.
02:23:46.460 You can't, we can't do that.
02:23:48.120 So my goal is to start to speak those things into ether
02:23:51.180 and eventually make them, you know, the limits to us.
02:23:54.300 Can I ask you a meta question?
02:23:55.960 Sure.
02:23:56.680 You keep referring correctly to what happened between 2020 and 2024,
02:24:01.480 which was like one of the biggest changes in our lifetime.
02:24:04.000 Didn't get enough attention.
02:24:05.600 The total transformation of the American population by Joe Biden
02:24:09.520 and his cabinet secretaries.
02:24:13.560 What was the motive there?
02:24:14.900 i'm not buying that this was just like lower wages no because a lot of these people were
02:24:20.080 indigent and had no skills and actually didn't fit into our labor market yeah oh no uh what was
02:24:26.380 the point why would you do that because your entire political project uh depends on whole
02:24:31.920 scale social and demographic engineering and let me be very explicit about why it is because they
02:24:36.080 believe in a different or an alien form of government and so the way that i the way that
02:24:39.980 i sort of explained this to people previously as i say you know i remember when um george w bush in
02:24:46.420 2000 uh right one down floor and and the the the thing was now all of a sudden the electoral college
02:24:53.320 was the problem right it was antiquated or whatever all the problems with work and then
02:24:58.960 you know years later some legislation didn't pass uh for for liberals and the proportional
02:25:06.720 representation in the Senate is now, you know, an antiquated relic, right?
02:25:09.740 Can't have a Senate.
02:25:10.480 We've got too few states.
02:25:12.060 And the Supreme Court's too small.
02:25:13.320 Right.
02:25:13.580 And the only way to save the court is to pack it, right?
02:25:15.600 Right.
02:25:16.020 So what I think happened is our political opponents, like the actual left, the DSA left,
02:25:23.760 which is the Senate, what they recognized, I think, is that their political program does
02:25:28.040 not have the depth and breadth of support.
02:25:31.280 And this was, I'm talking in the past, did not have the depth or breadth of support to
02:25:34.760 be enacted.
02:25:35.260 And so what they did is they attacked the rules.
02:25:36.720 here's how we played the game right so this institution that's been around for hundreds
02:25:41.100 of years is now has to be changed is antiquated etc and my argument is that the results to that
02:25:47.260 were too slow and then our opponents innovated and they said okay a democracy is both the kratos the
02:25:53.720 rules the state container and then it's also the demos who we are and i think the innovation is
02:25:59.500 they realize that then they could just do that they change who gets to decide in the first place
02:26:03.600 and when you recognize that the like like you said what joe biden did is one of the most aggressive
02:26:11.720 i mean it's the most consequential policy decision in a very very long time that is the reason for
02:26:17.840 it it was a deliberate social and demographic engineering move at industrial scale at brutal
02:26:23.400 scale drowned children in the rio grande handing off kids to sponsors they barely knew well what
02:26:28.880 would justify that the goal was to move people in here as fast as they hear nobody wants a white
02:26:34.080 population they're hard to deal with they're demanding they have their rights but but also
02:26:38.100 like it is that i i think legitimately it's two things they they reject national sovereignty
02:26:42.780 and like i i when i i used to um have that they weren't moving people from south korea in here
02:26:47.740 they're moving people from the poorest countries on the planet here yeah well i just think they
02:26:51.540 could i think they can get them there that you're going to have a never-ending well of those folks
02:26:57.680 in my opinion right this is a if you think about for 100 years or however long the goal of
02:27:04.520 international communism the goal of these these old uh belief systems isn't just the economic
02:27:11.760 system it is the global nature of it these are people who reject national sovereignty right and
02:27:17.220 so if you have a population here who does not subscribe to that that again the depth and
02:27:23.940 depth and breadth of that change is not going to take here. What they've realized is they can
02:27:28.380 change the who. And that's how you get a New York City mayor who is explicitly, DSA is explicitly
02:27:37.560 revolutionary, born in Uganda, who can win. And a poll a month out shows that people who were
02:27:45.660 actually born in New York City were some absurd percentage against him and he can win anyway.
02:27:51.160 And I think that they've seen that in some UK elections where the distinction, where the gap between, say, two years previous or whatever it was, was well within the margins of, and they would switch back over, was well within the margins of the people who had been naturalized and able to vote in that time.
02:28:08.080 And so, to me, these are the same old foes.
02:28:11.160 It is a socialist globalism, right?
02:28:14.520 And I remember I used to deliver pizza when I was young, driving around in a little old car.
02:28:20.060 Me too.
02:28:20.360 And I would listen to, yeah, and I would listen to like-
02:28:21.900 Great gig.
02:28:22.340 Yeah, and I would listen to, and I knew the neighborhoods
02:28:24.400 where the tips were good, so I applied to.
02:28:27.600 So I remember I'd listen to like Glenn Beck
02:28:30.280 and I think it was Mark Levine back, whoever those guys were.
02:28:32.920 And they would warn about the globalists.
02:28:35.060 This globalism, they reject sovereignty.
02:28:37.040 And even back then-
02:28:37.780 Mark Levine and Glenn Beck were warning about the globalists?
02:28:40.600 Yeah, way back in the day, right?
02:28:42.260 And then-
02:28:42.880 That's before they joined the team.
02:28:44.300 And then if you think about this too, like-
02:28:45.800 They're on the globalist side now, just so you know.
02:28:47.720 And if you think about this too, like the Kyoto Protocols
02:28:50.160 back in 98. We all rejected. And so what I'm saying is what people don't understand is the
02:28:55.360 actual manifestation of that is now happening. And that there is, our politics is now much more
02:29:01.580 crude. It is going to be a foreign tinge socialism or it is going to be federal law prevails and
02:29:06.380 national sovereignty prevails and that there's going to be very painful choices that we have
02:29:11.760 to make as a country as we sort that out. And the reason it's going to be painful is because we know
02:29:16.880 that people will, you know, physically endeavor to prevent federal law from being enforced.
02:29:22.920 Yeah. I mean, you either have it or you don't, you know, and, and it doesn't seem like we have it
02:29:29.280 at all. Yeah. My argument is American sovereignty has been pierced and, and, and, and the job of,
02:29:34.580 of, of us now is to figure out can it be put back together and to paint a realistic path for that.
02:29:41.040 And part of the reason I suggest we need to bring so many people into this effort, into that type of national mobilization, is if we just think of them as bystanders, we'll fail.
02:29:56.060 The federal government can do communications at times effectively.
02:30:01.360 See something, say something way back in the day, or those color-coded terror things from way back in the day.
02:30:06.400 That is not to endorse or not endorse any of those programs. It is to say we could be communicating much more effectively at scale, both to American people, what the cost of this is, what's coming down the pike, what is going to be required if we're actually going to do deportation or remigration, which is going to be mainstreamed in the US and Europe, but also to communicate to the legal aliens directly.
02:30:28.180 We can text them.
02:30:28.980 Like, we live in a technological era now where we can communicate to them at scale.
02:30:33.740 We could have billboards that say, hey, let's say you're in Houston.
02:30:38.460 Guatemala City is Tuesdays and Thursdays at noon.
02:30:40.920 Just show up at the airport.
02:30:41.700 Like, there are ways that we can do this.
02:30:45.440 So here's one meta-concern that I have is that you notice that under the Biden administration,
02:30:52.180 the federal agencies that flooded the country with illegal aliens were built not by biden but
02:31:00.140 a lot of them were built by bush dhs specifically um you know republican president built that
02:31:07.020 and so because leadership of our system changes perennially like what you build can be used by
02:31:15.460 people with a totally different program so if you're building data centers if you're building
02:31:19.960 a digital control grid,
02:31:21.500 which we are,
02:31:22.800 without any brakes on it at all,
02:31:25.380 why would that not be used
02:31:26.400 by the next administration
02:31:27.500 to surveil and control
02:31:30.100 anyone who opposes their agenda?
02:31:32.680 All of it will be.
02:31:33.980 All of the power
02:31:34.720 that we're talking about
02:31:35.840 will be marshaled by both sides.
02:31:37.720 And again, I'm not calling
02:31:39.320 for a huge government-run
02:31:41.640 surveillance program.
02:31:44.000 What I'm suggesting is...
02:31:44.820 Oh, I don't think you are.
02:31:45.540 Yeah, yeah.
02:31:46.420 I'm just saying, no, no, no,
02:31:47.260 but I don't mean surveillance
02:31:48.100 of wrongdoers.
02:31:49.100 Like, flock cameras are great because they're to prevent child abduction.
02:31:54.020 Okay, now.
02:31:54.660 But why wouldn't they be used against American citizens who just want sovereignty and borders?
02:32:00.140 Very well, maybe, right?
02:32:01.580 My argument is what we need to do for illegal aliens who are not subject to those same protections
02:32:07.140 is use the basic amount of information available to any, like, firm bidding on internet advertising
02:32:12.300 or to a credit agency, right?
02:32:13.520 So when they do background checks for tenants, right?
02:32:18.360 It's three major companies that process those. Like, that's commercial data we can buy and reach the vast majority of the illegal alien population who aren't, what people use the phrase, in the shadows, for example. So that's what I want to do. But yes, much more broadly, what I'm asking for is us to use federal power as aggressively as we just watched Democrats do when they build a 50-city infrastructure, right?
02:32:42.300 and and and but but and to be even more explicit like to then be legally creative and how we do
02:32:48.360 that too in ways that have gone beyond what we have and so um there was a program called the chnv
02:32:54.200 program cuba haiti nicaragua venezuela right hey there's an emergency at the border so now we have
02:32:59.420 to fly people in um at one point they were flying in 30 000 people a month on that program
02:33:07.020 That probably gets close to
02:33:09.000 or is a little bit under a single month
02:33:11.200 of best removals by ICE.
02:33:13.120 And maybe ICE was closer to 40,000.
02:33:15.200 I'm just talking in terms of scale here.
02:33:17.500 New York City in 2023
02:33:19.660 had about 215, quote unquote,
02:33:22.600 migrant shelters operating.
02:33:24.260 That's when you would see stories
02:33:25.240 about like homeless people being displaced,
02:33:26.940 literally being displaced
02:33:27.780 because these shelters were taking on illegal aliens.
02:33:32.020 Well, and hotels that tourists stayed in
02:33:34.000 were taking over.
02:33:34.620 Exactly.
02:33:34.920 250 15 i'm sorry at the peak more people at one point in new york city there is at a single point
02:33:42.640 in 2023 so i'm not saying persistent than ice has had in its custody at one time at any given
02:33:47.440 point in the next past two years so the scale at which democrats were willing to wield this power
02:33:52.420 right with the courts just rubber stamping it all and and get it they did walk certain things back
02:33:59.100 But like, is still something we're not approaching yet. And so what I ask is like, where is that pioneering legal strategies related to immigration that CHNV was? Where's that proposal that bold? Where is that function of logistics at scale that will get millions of people out?
02:34:19.080 we know that the federal government is capable that they just did it in the reverse direction
02:34:23.040 four years ago and so what we have to figure out though is like well no one's done it this way
02:34:28.100 before how does that work and to your point all of these mechanisms want to build right all of
02:34:33.220 these legal innovations the the when the opponents come back in power they will have it but the sole
02:34:37.940 metric that i believe will be the most impactful for the american people at the end of all of this
02:34:42.400 discussion is did we remove millions of people or not that to me will impact every other element
02:34:48.300 of the quality of life discussion that we have.
02:34:50.960 And that is why I think our politics
02:34:52.580 are inherently moving in that direction.
02:34:56.360 Like if there are two waves of,
02:34:58.640 yeah, if there are two waves of populism,
02:35:01.000 one of those, the one on the right,
02:35:04.440 that has showed at times in fits and starts
02:35:07.580 that it can capture a multi-class,
02:35:11.620 you know, multiracial, et cetera, coalition.
02:35:14.320 That one versus the one on the left,
02:35:16.040 which is moving into explicit socialism
02:35:17.840 and revolution, one of those involves continuing to bring in millions of foreigners to displace
02:35:23.220 American workers and one doesn't. And that one over here might have a chance to win.
02:35:26.980 And so like that to me, this is the political program. It is, we are moving towards an era in
02:35:31.880 which we need to prevent people from coming to this country. And we need to physically remove
02:35:36.280 the folks who are here because the former, I don't think, survives without the latter.
02:35:41.620 Last question. There, as noted at the outset, the original restrictionist movement was blue
02:35:47.460 collar democrats because they were the ones hurt by it it was the factory owners who were for it
02:35:51.760 it was the factory workers who opposed it is there any such constituency in the democratic party left
02:35:59.060 yeah i think i think uh i think this realignment will include bringing a bunch of those folks over
02:36:05.120 we all remember sanders was against exactly right and and i tell people i uh 80 percent of my
02:36:10.040 immigration policy is barack obama 2008 or bernie sanders 2003 right it is so so what i think is
02:36:16.180 That is the way that we can knife through this other emerging coalition of socialism.
02:36:21.840 It is to peel off the people who recognize that there is going to be one side that will put Americans first.
02:36:28.740 And again, we're in the process of that happening and building this out.
02:36:31.200 Like I said, we're at the beginning of this movement.
02:36:32.800 But yeah, we can split people off.
02:36:34.300 Because, I mean, there's no reason that the AOC, Momdani, kind of rich kid, I went to
02:36:41.620 Bowdoin variety of socialism, which is really just globalism, actually, that that should
02:36:49.580 prevail.
02:36:50.620 If you're going to have left-wing politics, at least it should be pro-American politics.
02:36:55.620 Yeah.
02:36:56.080 We've seen that before.
02:36:57.240 We've had that before.
02:36:58.320 So I don't understand why they get the entire other half of the political system.
02:37:04.300 Yeah, I agree.
02:37:05.240 And I think it's because the reason it is that version, the globalist version, is because they have abandoned, they find the working class distasteful, right?
02:37:13.300 Exactly.
02:37:13.960 And so my argument is a little bit simpler in that what we can do, what we're at the beginning of doing is marshalling this pro-American coalition.
02:37:24.140 And there is, it is just explicitly a pro-foreign one.
02:37:27.120 I don't know why.
02:37:28.220 I just know that they've abandoned.
02:37:28.780 Lindsey Graham and Momdani actually, despite a lot of pretending, agree on the basic issues.
02:37:36.820 Yeah.
02:37:37.440 Sorry, they do.
02:37:38.780 Yeah, I understand.
02:37:39.900 And so here's a way to frame that though, right?
02:37:42.220 So that is the shaking that off, shaking that consensus off, right?
02:37:45.860 It's something everybody's talked about for 10 years.
02:37:47.340 We're in the process of that happening.
02:37:49.280 And that is work that has to be continued.
02:37:52.240 And what I tell people is it stinks.
02:37:53.780 like i a lot of my friends that i talk to say when i go back to dc we presume we've won this
02:37:59.240 argument and i say well there's all this work still to carry it forward and the opposite of
02:38:03.360 becoming unvigilant is literally a four inch ten socialism but what i tell people is like
02:38:08.440 when we actually articulate that we're going to put american workers first you cannot lose that
02:38:16.240 and so what i tell like the business class or or the tech guys is like just read the room
02:38:21.960 you're you've gotten away with when we lived in an era where amazon employees were urinating in
02:38:27.160 bottles at their workstations there was time for things to swing back and so in right now we are
02:38:32.980 in a pitch battle it seems like a pitch battle and after the midterms there's going to be a push
02:38:36.500 for amnesty but we're in a pitch battle between what i would call the business class and the and
02:38:41.100 and the base or whatever the right the working class element of it is the business class is
02:38:45.460 going to lose this one is it it is inevitable all of our politics are trending in this direction
02:38:50.660 the american people are are moving towards demanding that they're put first their great
02:38:55.500 well of of of uh well-being for foreigners is is running out and like i i just i see that we will
02:39:03.060 be victorious man i hope you're right jason thank you very much thanks for having me i see that we
02:39:09.880 will be victorious i think so i really believe it i have to thank you thanks
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