00:00:01.000Well, good evening and welcome. If you've got internet access, you may have spent part of the weekend looking at horrifying violent images from Europe, particularly from France and its capital city, Paris, where protests turned, as they so often do, into riots and then chaos and stores burning and people assaulted and mobs of black clad, apparently young people with face masks running through the streets, setting things on fire, basically just hellish chaos.
00:00:29.980you wouldn't want in your hometown. And in the days since, there's been a lot of analysis over
00:00:35.420what this is and what it means for France and Europe, and honestly, for the United States and
00:00:40.700the rest of the West. And it does mean something, and we'll tell you what we think it means in just
00:00:44.500a minute. But before we get to that, before we get to the analysis and superimposing our worldview
00:00:50.380on a world event, just to the facts of it, because those are real too. So the riots you're watching
00:00:58.060in france were originally organized and maybe even conceived as protests and the organizers
00:01:04.300were not just fringe groups but they were all kinds of different groups including the country's
00:01:08.940largest labor union which is hardly fringe in france labor unions are still powerful so
00:01:13.820they are stakeholders they may be crazy but they're not nihilistic they don't want to burn it
00:01:18.460all down because well they live off gdp like everybody else in the nation of france and so
00:01:26.060So they began as protests specifically about France's education system and the lack of
00:01:33.380funding and the poor state of its schools, supposedly, which, honestly, not having checked,
00:33:05.800of course do you know anything about Passamaquoddy history no do you care of course not why not
00:33:14.360because you don't have to because the Passamaquoddy's have been replaced that's not self
00:33:19.660flagellation that's not oh we committed genocide though there's a case for that it's merely a
00:33:26.240straightforward observation about the nature of replacement and when the old is replaced over time
00:33:32.500it's not mourned any more than people are in the end no one visits their grave in the end no one
00:33:37.540remembers their history why would they any more than we celebrate the milestones of Assyrian
00:33:42.920history we don't the reason it's worth noting all of this is because it's happening right in front
00:33:47.420of us and it's again not the product of a conventional war Europe didn't get invaded
00:33:53.280and conquered in fact we're still told Europe was somehow liberated back 80 years ago hard to see
00:33:59.540how that's true now in any case it is no less an act of war simply because it happened over time
00:34:06.560in much more subtle and hidden ways and it did happen and we're going to read some of the numbers
00:34:11.900now not to be pedantic or boring but just to show you kind of the scope of this so here's a list of
00:34:16.460European cities and as we said the numbers in France are a little bit hard to guess at because
00:34:22.200they're not officially available having been banned in 1978 when immigration really started
00:34:28.520in earnest but they are available in other countries so here's i think the second biggest
00:34:33.440french-speaking city in europe which would be brussels belgium 1955 so 10 years after the end
00:34:39.400of the war brussels was 95 european 95 which shouldn't surprise you it's a european city it's
00:34:46.960ancient european city brussels is now 21 european 21 95 to 21 well that's pretty amazing london
00:34:57.1601955, 97% English, European, white. Today, 36%. 97 to 36%. Amsterdam, 98%, now 40%. Minority.
00:35:10.900Berlin, 98% 1955, 10 years after losing the war. Today, 57%. Vienna, 95%, 55. Today, 51%. Barely a
00:35:21.980majority. Stockholm, Sweden, a little kind of out of the fray up in Scandinavia, that big peninsula
00:35:26.380up there to the West. Scandinavia, kind of not in the heart of things, right? Even Stockholm,
00:35:32.960big city. 1955, not surprisingly, Stockholm, Sweden was 97% Swedish. Today it's 65%. And
00:35:40.300other cities in Sweden, Malmo most famously, are minority Swedish. So you may think that's great.
00:35:47.340You may think it's terrible. It almost kind of doesn't matter what you think. You will spend
00:35:52.060all day in fact you'll spend the rest of your life trying to find a corollary in world history
00:35:57.300nothing like this has ever happened before that we know of certainly since the pyramids you have
00:36:03.980never seen a replacement on this scale and this precisely targeted it is only and we would dare
00:36:12.680anybody to refute this with numbers and not just hysteria about white supremacy
00:36:16.480it is only the majority white cities and countries that have turned over in population nothing like
00:36:24.900this has happened in africa or asia or the middle east it has happened only in nations with a white
00:36:31.000majority and they no longer are a white majority and at this pace very soon in fact within our
00:36:36.560lifetimes there will not be a single white majority nation in the world other than russia
00:36:41.860and that's of course assuming that russia isn't destroyed in the current war and it raises the
00:36:47.060question about the motives behind this current work is it possible that the fact that russia
00:36:51.320is the last big majority white country in the world does that play a role in the hatred that
00:36:56.100many feel for it we don't know just throwing that out there but it's not a crazy thing to ask
00:37:00.580given that this is a universal fact across the globe from australia to ottawa from canberra to
00:37:09.840ottawa that majority white nations either are no longer majority white or are moving so quickly
00:37:16.380to minority white status that there will be none left in 20 years and that would include by the
00:37:22.740way even iceland the tiny frozen country settled by vikings a thousand years ago which until
00:37:31.640recently had one of the most homogenous populations in the world in fact so homogenous that
00:37:39.700Icelanders famously did a lot of genealogy before getting married because the chances your neighbor
00:37:44.140was your cousin were pretty darn high even Iceland all of a sudden is struggling with
00:37:49.920immigration unwanted immigration there's never been evidence that the majority of Icelanders
00:37:55.040wanted immigration but they were bullied from the outside and you can read about it in some detail
00:37:59.860if you're interested how exactly that happened but it did happen to the point that immigration
00:38:04.580is if you talk to anyone who lives in Iceland one of the big issues in that country and it's
00:38:09.080jail population reflects that. What was an orderly, homogenous, prosperous country still is in a lot
00:38:15.540of ways, but becoming much less so very quickly thanks to mass migration that they didn't want.
00:38:21.220It's almost like, in fact, it's not almost like, it is a fact that they were targeted because they
00:38:26.080were too white. Now, what is that? Well, it's not an act of love. It's the opposite. It's an act of
00:38:34.400hate. And if it was an act of love, if the principle held universally that diversity is our
00:38:39.500strength, that it's good for you to have a country that has no working majority of anybody, certainly
00:38:44.280not a white majority. But if it was just always good to be diverse, then there would be well
00:38:49.500consistent, in fact, equal and consistent pressure on every nation in the world to adopt the same
00:38:55.540standard. And the United Nations and the Soros organizations and the Democratic Party of the
00:39:02.120United States and every green party on the planet would be working in concert to do to the rest of
00:39:07.240the world what they have done to the white world. And that is to mix it up a little bit.
00:39:12.900Why is China 99% Han Chinese? Why is India all Indian? Why is Burkina Faso all African?
00:39:21.580Those countries must be weak. But of course, that hasn't happened. It is only white countries that
00:39:26.980have been targeted. And so the onus is not on people who notice it to explain what that is.
00:39:32.240The onus is on the people who did it to explain why they did it and to tell the rest of us why
00:39:37.720this isn't hate. Because it so clearly is. You don't act this way to people you love. And of
00:39:44.760course, countries that are cherished and loved by their leaders and their supporters don't have
00:39:50.460this. That would include China. It would include Israel, which has fought many wars over demographics.
00:39:54.800In fact, is fighting currently on seven fronts over the question of demographics.
00:40:00.360And you can revile that in the behavior of the Israeli military, and of course we have.
00:40:06.520But it doesn't change the fact that at its root, Israel's struggle is over demographics.
00:40:12.680They would like their country to be filled with people like them, and they're willing to fight for it, or at least they're willing to use the U.S. military to fight for it.
00:40:20.460And that's not an attack, it's just an observation, but it's almost never made.
00:40:24.800because of course the obligation is for white countries to diversify but everyone else to do
00:40:29.120exactly what they want and why is that and why does no one ask that question but even if you're
00:40:35.800in favor of that you would have to look at what is happening in paris even if you hated the french
00:40:41.020if you hated whites you would have to look at that as sad is rioting ever good is chaos ever good
00:40:48.260you see the video of the blonde girl getting hassled by men in masks pushed around
00:40:52.280a normal person would feel sympathy a normal person look at that and say oh i may not like
00:40:59.480the french or what i don't hate europe but gee that's tough i wouldn't want that in my town
00:41:04.600but that's not how people looked on it at all actually and here's one example here's the prime
00:41:10.280minister of israel benjamin netanyahu asked in a recent interview in just the last few days
00:41:14.380you saw what's happening in france what do you make of it and here's his response
00:51:30.240if you create a system in which the majority of the wealth
00:51:32.920is held by people who are beyond their reproductive years
00:51:35.580and people 40 and under have 6.5% of the wealth,
00:51:39.120it's going to be a lot harder to start families
00:51:41.000and have kids right so and there are a lot of other problems the education system is terrible
00:51:46.520and drugs are rampant and a lot of problems in the United States but instead of fixing any of
00:51:51.700them or even mentioning them Chuck Schumer says our goal you can replay it our goal is to help
00:51:57.840the dreamers and all other undocumented in other words the people we care about are not the people
00:52:03.480who live here because they're white the people we care about are the people we're importing who are
00:52:08.140not so he was cheered by all the people around him the emerging coalition but that's an expression
00:52:17.660of deep hostility toward the people who live here not just a lack of caring not just ignoring
00:52:23.780this is mocking them as they die using their money and it's had a huge effect so we're going
00:52:33.160to do something that you're definitely not allowed to do which is read the census numbers
00:52:37.440Now, the census numbers are a product of the census, which is taken every 10 years, and it's taken because it's mandated in the Constitution. Now, why is that? Because the framers understood, as anybody who runs a country understands, that who lives within your borders is the single most important fact about your country.
00:52:55.100who lives there is the most important fact because people are always the most important variable
00:53:00.900in any equation so in order to find out who lives here they mandated and we still do it
00:53:08.160a census a nationwide census find out who lives here in the census every 10 years and those
00:53:12.840numbers which are federal numbers available on the internet tell an amazing story but an even
00:53:21.740greater story is that no one feels free to read those numbers so again if you reach a place where
00:53:28.960the adl slanders you and you may get debanked by jp morgan chase for reading federal census numbers
00:53:37.600then you know that something unhealthy is going on here that's not good at all but whatever here
00:53:45.000are the numbers. So in 1955, New York City, believe it or not, was 90% white. New York City,
00:53:53.700our biggest city, 10 million people, 90% white. Today, it's 31% white. Chicago was 85% white.
00:53:59.580Today, it's 32% white. Los Angeles in 1955 was 93% white. Today, it's 28% white. So what do you get
00:54:09.780when you add all that up you get a non-white country which is despite what you may hear
00:54:16.840what we already have the three biggest cities in the united states are overwhelmingly non-white
00:54:25.100in fact there is not a single city in the united states of size that is majority white anymore
00:54:31.760now again you could say that's great or it's terrible
00:54:35.400but you first have to answer the question how did that happen nothing like that has
00:54:42.960ever happened to any country ever how did that happen our three biggest states are in order
00:54:51.960by population california texas and florida all of them are majority non-white california is like 32
00:54:59.380percent white texas is in the 40s so and those three states together just those three states
00:55:06.580not including the other 47 or about 100 million people all told out of a country of 350 so that's
00:55:12.440the country right there of our cities and cities define a nation of our cities and look this up if
00:55:21.160you don't believe it there is not a single city in the united states of size that has a white
00:55:27.100majority not one not one out of all of our cities there's not one city over a million for sure in
00:55:34.580fact our biggest city i think this is right the biggest city in the united states that's still
00:55:38.020majority white is boise idaho which is about what 280 000 something like that it's under 300 000
00:55:44.420that's our biggest majority white city and in 1955 los angeles was 93 white doesn't make you
00:55:52.220a white supremacist to note that. All demographers know it. They probably talk about it in private.
00:55:59.440Like, what the hell is that? And it's our turn to ask, what the hell is that? Because
00:56:05.100is it better? First of all, even if it is better, it wasn't wanted. There was never a referendum
00:56:12.660on this. And whenever people have been allowed to vote on immigration, in the last couple of
00:56:18.000presidential campaigns they have been because trump ran on immigration they overwhelmingly vote
00:56:22.440the majority votes against it they don't want this and by the way not just white people there
00:56:27.000are a lot of non-white people who don't want new waves of immigrants but all of this the point is
00:56:31.960was imposed on the american population against its will but not just the american population
00:56:38.780that's the amazing thing so france and we're all like france has been taken over by immigrants
00:56:42.460Well, France is about, we think, about 13% foreign-born.
00:56:46.700That's not as high as the United States.
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01:08:19.380with him yesterday for a conversation about the state of immigration in the United States
01:08:23.720and what to do about it so that we don't become France. Here's that conversation.
01:08:28.780Thanks a lot for doing this, Jason. So when people think of immigration, I think they think of unwanted people coming over their borders into their country, taking American jobs, changing the complexion of the country, whatever. That's how people envision immigration. So you just close the borders and it's done.
01:08:46.300But there's a whole separate variety of legal immigration and one of the forms of it is called the H-1B visa program. And it turns out that's a really significant part of immigration, the immigration picture and a part of the problem. So would you just describe what it is? What is the H-1B program?
01:09:05.300Yeah, so H-1B was, I mean, is something, H-1 visas existed as early as the 1950s.
01:09:13.600They were for supposedly special or in particularly meritorious immigrants to come over to the
01:09:34.200Apparently, the American market cannot produce this very particular skill set in enough, and we're supposed to be right, in enough volume or it doesn't exist.
01:09:43.300And so it was both temporary, tied to a specific individual, and for what they called specialty occupations.
01:09:51.720And what kind of occupations would those be?
01:09:53.500So it might have been anything from someone with tech skills, right? And like a lot of it was like about mechanical or other engineering skills and then IT or other development skills. And so out of the gate, okay, hey, we're moving into the digital world. Everybody's in kind of that 90s mindset. And those were the types of roles originally envisioned.
01:10:14.220Learn to code. And these are people who already knew how to code. So we need to import them.
01:10:19.220Huh. How big a program was it at the beginning?
01:10:21.720So when it started out, the caps were much smaller. The caps are how many that the government shall issue on an annual basis. And I think it started out at only 20,000 or so out of the gate. And then, and I may have this wrong, I think then expanded to 40,000. Right now we are at 85,000 a year.
01:11:07.680So they run the program, they bring people in, and then they don't keep track of how many there are.
01:11:12.180Correct. Or like what I'll say, running total of those.
01:11:15.120And so what I tell people is if this was originally a specific human being certified to do a specific job for this skill set that apparently the American system does not produce, what it has now become is essentially just a foreign mobile labor workforce, right?
01:11:33.040And the output of that very, very clearly is the depression of wages for Americans.
01:11:40.900So over the history of that program, let's just say from 1990 when H1B was created, the estimate is it's above 3 million people overall have been on those visas over the history of that program.
01:11:52.280And so that impact on all the things that, right, we think about family formation for Americans, right? The ability to grow your way up, right? So not just here's the 700,000 people who are displacing Americans right now. But what about 10 years ago, that person would be moving into middle management, right?
01:12:14.700That is a good salary, let's say with computer development or computer science.
01:12:23.080That's a house in the suburbs for an American.
01:12:27.940So when I think about the program, I don't just think about the individual numbers, but I think about the effect of now a generation of displacement.
01:12:37.040So the conversation about immigration has changed dramatically.
01:12:43.200So in 1924, the United States basically ended immigration into the country after decades of historically high levels of immigration, mostly from Eastern and Southern Europe.
01:12:54.180And there was a sense that the country's getting volatile and we need just a holding pattern for a minute for things to settle, people to assimilate, the country to become united again.
01:13:04.080And that lasted until 1965 when Emmanuel Seller passed his famous Hart Seller Act.
01:13:12.600But the point is the pressure to stop immigration in 1924 came from home labor unions, because immigration was understood as a tool that employers use to depress the value of labor, because if you've got more of something, it's worth less, right?
01:23:37.780It's really just a supply chain of cheap foreign labor.
01:23:40.420It starts at the university level. There's something called the curricular practical training. It is the right for a student here on an F1 visa to work in the United States while they are an undergrad, while they are a student, right?
01:23:55.500And the program we can talk about is extremely corrupt, but here's an easy way to think about it.
01:33:42.120None of that exists in the J-1 program. And then the CPT program, Curricular Practical Training
01:33:48.740for Undergrad Labor. No pretense that they had to hire an American, no prevailing wage. None of
01:33:54.440these controls are built into a lot of these other visas. And so the universities are as ruthless
01:34:00.780as any caricature we have of a private equity firm or any of these other things. And they have
01:34:06.760moved away from serving the American people. And what I sense, like, so last week I went and talked
01:34:12.460to the Texas Young Republicans group and they were fired up. And the week before I was in
01:34:18.320Knoxville, I talked to a group of young Republicans there. They understand very intuitively and are
01:34:24.380speaking explicitly about the fact that these institutions are no longer for them. They
01:34:28.900understand entirely that they're going to have to build from scratch, right? And so there is both
01:34:34.060that what i'll call the tech bro model i got to go start my own thing but that feels devoid of
01:34:39.340meaning to to a lot of them and so what i what i see is there is a need the young men understand
01:34:47.020that the universities uh have no stake in their future well hate them exactly and and teach people
01:34:54.460that that hate is the right thing i remember that when i was in in undergrad and and hearing from
01:34:59.180people uh i remember literally uh i was on a college i was in i went to penn state and um i
01:35:05.460didn't know uh about all of that antagonism necessarily and somebody i knew for a very
01:35:12.660long time said well of course you would think that way you're a white male and i i like blanched i
01:35:19.360didn't know that that was i didn't know that we were dividing ourselves that way and so i i remember
01:35:24.960the beginning of that culture sort of right back then but so what i've learned from these young men
01:35:30.280that i've been and it's not just an attitude it's it's encoded in admission standards correct like
01:35:35.860people are it's jim crow at scale but with the federal government backing at this time not just
01:35:42.140the government of mississippi and georgia that is correct yeah no i'm highly aware it's still in
01:35:46.560place, by the way, amazingly. But I don't understand why that's allowed to continue.
01:35:55.860Yeah. I don't have a good answer for that. Here's the way that I look at it, right?
01:35:59.960I believe that we're at the beginning of this kind of realignment or awakening that we have.
01:36:05.080And I mean that like, let me see if I can express this outside of the partisan binary,
01:36:09.400because I'm still, I was in DC and I'm plugged into X and I drink the Kool-Aid sometimes.
01:36:14.160we are in the beginning we are the beginning of a realignment where i in my brain these things
01:36:20.820seem obvious to me but i realized that like we haven't actually won the argument yet um and so
01:36:27.320all of the things we go wait a second why did we just tolerate that for 30 years you kind of shake
01:36:32.020yourself out of that stupor but we're at the very beginning of that and so the realignment that i
01:36:36.840have when you when you notice something like that that is obviously corrupt and obviously
01:36:40.000Why would we permit that? The old incentive structures that were there are still exerting influence, right? Or from a pure electoral perspective, 2024, it was a big tent that got the president across the stage. There are inherent pressures built into that.
01:36:56.880And so where I'm going with that is the way that the realignment, I think, will happen is we are further into the era of populism, but not anywhere near the crest.
01:37:10.600And the American people are starting to look around and recognize that, like, if they do not loudly demand that they are put first, all of these things will persist into perpetuity.
01:37:22.460So the media loves to scare the crap out of you with reporting about crises.
01:47:27.200You try to deport them and all these NGOs, Soros-funded NGOs, stage a riot.
01:47:33.700It's like, okay, the only people obeying the rules are the people who are getting shafted.
01:47:40.380Yeah, and I explicitly make the argument as it relates to illegal immigration that we're going to have to be willing to defy the courts because illegal immigration is at this point so clearly the purview of the executive, right, or what we'll call immigration enforcement.
01:48:23.540But I want to get back to that broader point about legal versus illegal because I was actually going to highlight that disconnect that I have here.
01:48:29.540I think it's justifiable is the other thing, too, is people can hop.
01:48:33.600You get here on H-1B, you can hop between employers, right?
01:48:36.400So the whole thing feels like a scam set up to screw American young people.
01:52:05.120But Schumer said, we have to bring these people in because there are communities where people aren't having enough children and we need the economic right. And France makes that same argument. And I say, so there is no proposal to give people hope or to invest in economic policies that would aid in family formation or to just do any of those things.
01:52:22.580exactly and and my argument is like our my political opponents have have embraced a
01:52:29.300post-nationalism that like it is hard for us to understand that that era is now here i i used to
01:52:34.700um hard to say what era that that like that a significant non-minor percentage of of the
01:52:41.240american population of our fellow citizens have embraced uh a globalist mindset have explicitly
01:52:47.360cast allegiance with with foreigners like i remember i used to draw um which is to say they
01:52:52.160they don't care at all about their countrymen at all correct oh i mean they find the idea of
01:52:56.920nationalism itself right uh yeah but it's one of those ideas that's impulse is not even an idea
01:53:02.840if it's dressed up as progressive forward-thinking inclusive when in fact its core is hate
01:53:09.920and resentment of their fellow americans like they're disappointed in their fellow americans
01:53:16.140they hate them no one hates them more than chuck schumer of course no one and he said it many many
01:53:21.020times but but it's a common view and then they're like no no this is progressive it's like you don't
01:53:26.360even care about the people living down the street from you that's called hatred actually and and if
01:53:30.620you think about it this way right so we talked about here's the tech here's here's where the
01:53:34.620tech money is here's where the here's where the chuck schumers are and i say okay so you don't
01:53:40.660want to train us and you don't have any plan at any other phase of people's lives to make it better
01:53:46.220And I just go, what is going to have to happen when we say, you just kind of have, like, why aren't we enough?
01:53:54.420Why are you not okay just with the people who are here?
01:53:58.200Can we endeavor to make their lives better?
01:54:00.240And so, like, to me, that is what the realignment is going to be.
01:58:49.700But very literally, to your point, whose country is it?
01:58:53.380We have a, the, the, I think about the phrase replacement theory. Okay. And, and, and I said
01:59:03.280to somebody recently, I said, well, Republicans have to stop using the phrase replacement theory.
01:59:08.460And they agreed with me, but not for the reason. And I said, oh, yes, of course we can't get tied
01:59:11.880up. And I said, no, no, no. The Ugandan born mayor of New York city called for the end of federal
01:59:17.460immigration enforcement in the largest city in our country. That's not theoretical anymore.
01:59:23.380right chuck schumer's telling we have census numbers every 10 years and so anyone who calls
01:59:29.260it a theory exactly is participating in a lie it's not a theory yes look at the numbers i was
01:59:35.060born in 1969 let's just plot it out from 1969 has the population of the country in 1969 been
01:59:41.380replaced by a new population what percentage of people living in the united states say had an
01:59:45.980ancestor in the civil war right so anyway maybe you think that's great maybe you think it's
01:59:51.840terrible maybe i don't know who whatever you think of it to deny that it happened is a lie
01:59:56.500and so like let's not participate in lies how's that yeah and also like you the most important
02:00:01.260part here you said whose country is it right the the reality is the control of it who will end up
02:00:08.100owning it is right now up for grabs let me let me suggest why i'm arguing it that way
02:00:13.380uh aoc or or some other uh you know uh what i will call someone who is unlikely to be more
02:00:21.040moderate than Joe Biden, may have the presidency in 26, 27 months. Does anybody believe that
02:00:28.420any of the 3 million or so outstanding asylum cases will be adjudicated under
02:00:33.760them? Of course not. Biden, they were given a six-year out court date, a work permit,
02:00:41.260and a free ID. It was a pretense, right? It was abuse of the system for their goal. Again,
02:00:47.080They've gone under the law. So none of those people, if a Democrat comes to office, none of those cases will ever be heard. And I don't think anybody rationally thinks that they will be. They'll be mass adjudicated. Okay. So that happens. Everybody who's here, what it means to be an illegal alien, they are deliberately blurring it, right?
02:01:06.620Kathy Hochul, the governor, said this is a working man, right, when there was someone who was shot all these things.
02:01:12.500So all of the rights and privileges that were unique to your citizenship, right, are being distributed at a state-by-state level.
02:01:20.720I think the high watermark recently, because I used to talk about the ability for illegal aliens to vote in municipal elections, and that to me is just so alarming.
02:01:27.920And here's all the benefits that they can sign up for.
02:01:30.120But in Illinois, you can be a police officer.
02:01:33.800You can even, I think, be a deputy sheriff if you're an illegal alien.
02:01:36.460You could get arrested by an illegal alien right now as an American citizen in Illinois.
02:01:40.620And the courts have walked back some of this, but they're not going to save us.
02:01:44.360So my point is what it means to even be an illegal alien, they are deliberately blurring
02:02:02.080But illegal immigration, our political opponents have so abandoned the law that what we will have to then resort to to get this done will itself have to involve those types of compromises.
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02:02:26.780yeah i mean i can't overstate the bitterness i feel when i hear all of that because
02:02:35.460you know we just wasted it all for war with iran it's really it's the it's the most bitter thing
02:02:43.920i have ever seen in my entire life that's how i feel about it but anyway sorry well can i jump in
02:02:49.980So what I tell people, so I'm arguing in reasonably public areas that we need to hire 250,000 people after the midterms and build what's called a civilian deportation corps.
02:03:05.000And I'm not here to give a full pitch on that.
02:03:07.140But what I mean is I have to believe we can still do it in the next two years.
02:03:10.520I have to believe that we will not hand the country back over to a Democrat without this problem acted upon significantly.
02:03:19.360because if we do it the the definition forget about the sense the definition of citizenship
02:03:26.040will splinter beyond repair all of those individual rights that are being granted to
02:03:30.780legal aliens across the country are strengthening into a real right now parallel rights regime
02:03:36.820and so to your point whose country is it it might not be ours if that happens oh i of course if you
02:03:42.500feel that way all of that splintering and you add uh you know a newsom or an aoc who adds another
02:03:48.58010 or 15 million people back in or in, how do we recover that? If the unitary definite
02:03:56.680citizenship splinters, there is no good path forward as a country and nor do we really have
02:04:02.500a model for that. We don't know what to do. I think Americans don't know what to do with that
02:04:07.320information right now. And so what I think is there is a path forward. And what I hope is it
02:04:13.200will become more clear as the prospect of handing that power back over comes into sharper relief.
02:04:18.580And the answer is we stop seeing the American people as a political audience to be abided by
02:04:23.300or to be placated. And we say the reestablishment of our sovereignty is going to be exceptionally
02:04:28.720painful. We need you to be part of doing it. And so the linear expansion of traditional
02:04:36.100enforcement capacity, all the capacity building that was here is good, but the numbers were never
02:04:40.380going to get close to where we needed them to. It's just DHS literally, it can't do it on its
02:04:44.620own. And so what I say is we bring the American people along on this journey and we say, help us
02:04:49.660from a logistics capacity, pick up an extra shift as a nurse. Let's go door to door. We know where
02:04:54.640these illegal aliens are. Even the ones that didn't come across, we could buy two dozen individual
02:05:00.520commercial database indicators. And I want to directly communicate with these people,
02:05:06.840shatter the illusion to them that they've seen the high water market enforcement,
02:05:09.780text them send them dms we know who you are we're going to be at the post office
02:05:14.800why don't you go after the employers um i think we should but i don't actually think that will
02:05:19.380be sufficient on its own really uh yeah i think i think what right now what we're seeing uh are
02:05:25.200all necessary pieces of what i think will be an insufficient pie here's why so so and by the way
02:05:29.420worksite enforcement would be probably the individual single biggest leverage than we
02:05:32.640could do um it would it would it would remove that incentive but we could remove that person's job
02:06:08.840And so my argument is the physical removal of millions of people is unavoidable.
02:06:16.240And the sooner we get serious about doing that at scale, both in terms of building that physical infrastructure, but also in communicating that we're going to build it, the more chance we have of people voluntarily leaving and leaving in these other ways, that will be less disruptive.
02:06:29.200But I think if we do this the way that I want us to, which is to hire all these people, it is to bring the American people along, but also because it won't get done any other way.
02:06:43.920If there isn't enough support for this, that 250,000 Americans sign up, we were never going to survive it politically anyway.
02:06:52.500The model of doing it the way that it's happening now isn't going to marshal that support.
02:06:57.420There's some smart things you could do communications-wise to sustain the Overton window, but we're not actually asking enough of the American people in terms of having them help kind of deliver on this mandate.
02:07:09.020Well, they tried something like that with ICE. How'd that go?
02:07:12.820Well, I think what ICE actually accomplished is very few agencies have done anything at that scale in 20 years.
02:07:20.160Did public support for deportation go up or down? It went down.
02:07:23.060It did. And it's remained fairly steady. But my argument is this. What I'm saying is the DHS alone approach is part of it. What I want ICE to do, and there's serious hardworking people right there working until 10 p.m. every night and dealing with all the threats and all the vitriol, I want them to keep enforcing at the scale that they are.
02:07:44.620and my argument is that exact model cannot be the only face of the effort i'm talking about a
02:07:53.240civic effort right that enlists americans to do this so did did public support go up or down it
02:07:57.840went down and and then stabilized and has remained relatively there or a little bit higher but um
02:08:03.900what i'm saying is don't just think of the american people from a poll numbers perspective
02:08:07.820bring them into this physically bring them in can i ask though so the ice effort i mean i think
02:08:12.700Most people, even most Democrats, are like, no, a country should have control of its borders.
02:22:44.940And they're going to look at whether or not you as a company have had recent layoffs.
02:22:49.160So there are things happening on the legal immigration side, and to include the suspensions that we talked about and some other things, they're going to use equal opportunity law to sue companies for discriminating against national origin if they only have H-1B.
02:23:02.880I believe that the boundaries of our normal politics can handle that. And I believe that Joe Biden broke them over here and that a decade and a half of clear executive branch sovereignty over immigration enforcement broke that. And that the litmus test for 2028 is two things.
02:23:21.340If you are a Republican anywhere, county, state, national, mass deportation is your
02:23:27.340litmus test, real in the millions mass deportation.
02:23:29.900But two, the idea that we would hand over three million unadjudicated or two and a half
02:23:35.700million or 2.4 million unadjudicated asylum cases, the majority of which right now were
02:23:41.400people who were coached to do this under Joe Biden, right, is a non-starter.
02:25:35.260And so what they did is they attacked the rules.
02:25:36.720here's how we played the game right so this institution that's been around for hundreds
02:25:41.100of years is now has to be changed is antiquated etc and my argument is that the results to that
02:25:47.260were too slow and then our opponents innovated and they said okay a democracy is both the kratos the
02:25:53.720rules the state container and then it's also the demos who we are and i think the innovation is
02:25:59.500they realize that then they could just do that they change who gets to decide in the first place
02:26:03.600and when you recognize that the like like you said what joe biden did is one of the most aggressive
02:26:11.720i mean it's the most consequential policy decision in a very very long time that is the reason for
02:26:17.840it it was a deliberate social and demographic engineering move at industrial scale at brutal
02:26:23.400scale drowned children in the rio grande handing off kids to sponsors they barely knew well what
02:26:28.880would justify that the goal was to move people in here as fast as they hear nobody wants a white
02:26:34.080population they're hard to deal with they're demanding they have their rights but but also
02:26:38.100like it is that i i think legitimately it's two things they they reject national sovereignty
02:26:42.780and like i i when i i used to um have that they weren't moving people from south korea in here
02:26:47.740they're moving people from the poorest countries on the planet here yeah well i just think they
02:26:51.540could i think they can get them there that you're going to have a never-ending well of those folks
02:26:57.680in my opinion right this is a if you think about for 100 years or however long the goal of
02:27:04.520international communism the goal of these these old uh belief systems isn't just the economic
02:27:11.760system it is the global nature of it these are people who reject national sovereignty right and
02:27:17.220so if you have a population here who does not subscribe to that that again the depth and
02:27:23.940depth and breadth of that change is not going to take here. What they've realized is they can
02:27:28.380change the who. And that's how you get a New York City mayor who is explicitly, DSA is explicitly
02:27:37.560revolutionary, born in Uganda, who can win. And a poll a month out shows that people who were
02:27:45.660actually born in New York City were some absurd percentage against him and he can win anyway.
02:27:51.160And I think that they've seen that in some UK elections where the distinction, where the gap between, say, two years previous or whatever it was, was well within the margins of, and they would switch back over, was well within the margins of the people who had been naturalized and able to vote in that time.
02:28:08.080And so, to me, these are the same old foes.
02:28:44.300And then if you think about this too, like-
02:28:45.800They're on the globalist side now, just so you know.
02:28:47.720And if you think about this too, like the Kyoto Protocols
02:28:50.160back in 98. We all rejected. And so what I'm saying is what people don't understand is the
02:28:55.360actual manifestation of that is now happening. And that there is, our politics is now much more
02:29:01.580crude. It is going to be a foreign tinge socialism or it is going to be federal law prevails and
02:29:06.380national sovereignty prevails and that there's going to be very painful choices that we have
02:29:11.760to make as a country as we sort that out. And the reason it's going to be painful is because we know
02:29:16.880that people will, you know, physically endeavor to prevent federal law from being enforced.
02:29:22.920Yeah. I mean, you either have it or you don't, you know, and, and it doesn't seem like we have it
02:29:29.280at all. Yeah. My argument is American sovereignty has been pierced and, and, and, and the job of,
02:29:34.580of, of us now is to figure out can it be put back together and to paint a realistic path for that.
02:29:41.040And part of the reason I suggest we need to bring so many people into this effort, into that type of national mobilization, is if we just think of them as bystanders, we'll fail.
02:29:56.060The federal government can do communications at times effectively.
02:30:01.360See something, say something way back in the day, or those color-coded terror things from way back in the day.
02:30:06.400That is not to endorse or not endorse any of those programs. It is to say we could be communicating much more effectively at scale, both to American people, what the cost of this is, what's coming down the pike, what is going to be required if we're actually going to do deportation or remigration, which is going to be mainstreamed in the US and Europe, but also to communicate to the legal aliens directly.
02:32:13.520So when they do background checks for tenants, right?
02:32:18.360It's three major companies that process those. Like, that's commercial data we can buy and reach the vast majority of the illegal alien population who aren't, what people use the phrase, in the shadows, for example. So that's what I want to do. But yes, much more broadly, what I'm asking for is us to use federal power as aggressively as we just watched Democrats do when they build a 50-city infrastructure, right?
02:32:42.300and and and but but and to be even more explicit like to then be legally creative and how we do
02:32:48.360that too in ways that have gone beyond what we have and so um there was a program called the chnv
02:32:54.200program cuba haiti nicaragua venezuela right hey there's an emergency at the border so now we have
02:32:59.420to fly people in um at one point they were flying in 30 000 people a month on that program
02:33:34.920250 15 i'm sorry at the peak more people at one point in new york city there is at a single point
02:33:42.640in 2023 so i'm not saying persistent than ice has had in its custody at one time at any given
02:33:47.440point in the next past two years so the scale at which democrats were willing to wield this power
02:33:52.420right with the courts just rubber stamping it all and and get it they did walk certain things back
02:33:59.100But like, is still something we're not approaching yet. And so what I ask is like, where is that pioneering legal strategies related to immigration that CHNV was? Where's that proposal that bold? Where is that function of logistics at scale that will get millions of people out?
02:34:19.080we know that the federal government is capable that they just did it in the reverse direction
02:34:23.040four years ago and so what we have to figure out though is like well no one's done it this way
02:34:28.100before how does that work and to your point all of these mechanisms want to build right all of
02:34:33.220these legal innovations the the when the opponents come back in power they will have it but the sole
02:34:37.940metric that i believe will be the most impactful for the american people at the end of all of this
02:34:42.400discussion is did we remove millions of people or not that to me will impact every other element
02:34:48.300of the quality of life discussion that we have.
02:37:05.240And I think it's because the reason it is that version, the globalist version, is because they have abandoned, they find the working class distasteful, right?
02:37:13.960And so my argument is a little bit simpler in that what we can do, what we're at the beginning of doing is marshalling this pro-American coalition.
02:37:24.140And there is, it is just explicitly a pro-foreign one.