Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene
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Since Joe Biden became president, the U.S. government has spent hundreds of billions of dollars fighting an undeclared war against Russia . The net effect has been in part to send at least $75 billion to the government of Ukraine to fight this war on our behalf as a proxy . Two years in, the war is still going. The population of Ukraine has been decimated. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have died. And the country itself is a mess .
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Since Joe Biden became president, the U.S. government has spent hundreds of billions
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of dollars fighting an undeclared war against Russia. No one in all of that time has explained
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really the purpose of this war, why it would benefit the United States or the world. Clearly,
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at least some policymakers are motivated by ethnic and religious hatreds. That's probably
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part of the real reason. But officially, no one has told us why we are doing this. But the net effect
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has been in part to send at least $75 billion to the government of Ukraine to fight this war on our
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behalf as a proxy. And it's not working. Two years in, the war is still going. The population of
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Ukraine has been decimated. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have died. And the country itself
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is a mess. It's been wrecked, as countries are in war. Russia is a far bigger country. It's got 100
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million more people in far deeper industrial capacity. Ukraine can't win. Everybody knows
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that. Around the world, people are very clear on that. There's not one informed person outside the
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United States who thinks that somehow Ukraine is going to beat Russia, because it's not.
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But that is almost never said in the United States. In fact, on cable news, they tell you day after day,
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Russia is going to lose any moment now. Here's a selection.
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And we do begin with breaking news. Win, win, win. It's a war appearing in U.S. official statements
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in new ways. And more than ever, when it comes to Ukraine, Ukraine can win. Ukraine is winning.
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But let's not lose sight of how much Russia is losing in this war. Ukraine is winning. This is a
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tough fight. And it's not a foregone conclusion that Ukraine will win in the end. But right now,
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Ukraine is winning. And that's an important message for the world to see.
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Russia is losing this war. They are suffering horrifying casualties, the likes of which
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they have not seen since World War II and for very little gain.
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But right now, I think it's fair to say Ukraine has the upper hand. Ukraine is winning its war
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thanks to the enormous support we and others have provided. And we need to keep the pressure on Putin.
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President Zelensky described the time as the beginning of the end of the war.
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Well, I think it's clear that Ukraine is winning.
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It's just Barry McCaffrey. They're liars and buffoons. And again, if you're looking at all of
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this coverage from outside the United States, you're laughing bitterly. This is the leader of the world?
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People who blithely tell lies, provable lies like that, that results in the deaths of hundreds of
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thousands of people and feel no guilt or shame as they do it? This is the beginning of the end of
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Russia, right? That last clip was from a year and a half ago, and they knew it was a lie then, and they know it
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even more now. But that has not stopped the push for you, the American taxpayer, in the middle of the
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total collapse of your own country, in the middle of an invasion by the rest of the world, tens of millions of
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foreigners coming here illegally. That has not stopped the press on the U.S. Congress to send still more
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to the government of Ukraine, another 60 billion. Nobody is for this. The overwhelming majority of
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American voters are opposed to it. Certainly the overwhelming majority of Republican voters
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are against it. The majority of Republican members of Congress have said they're against it.
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But the leaders of the Republican Party and, of course, the Democratic Party are completely for
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it. Here's the top Republican in the United States Senate, Mitch McConnell, the disgraced Mitch McConnell
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of Kentucky, saying that as he spends his final months in the U.S. Senate before retiring, his main goal
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is to send billions more to the doomed government and illegitimate government, anti-democratic government
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of Ukraine, and hurting any fellow Republican who doesn't agree with him. Here's Mitch McConnell.
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I finally thought it was time to go in a different direction. But I'm not leaving the Senate. And I'm
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particularly involved in actually fighting back against the isolationist movement in my own party and
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some in the other as well. And the symbol of that lately is, are we going to help Ukraine or not?
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Are we going to help Ukraine or not? Hundreds of billions of dollars, U.S. dollars spent fighting
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this war against Russia, which is not working at a time when our own country is becoming in parts
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literally impoverished. So history will record Mitch McConnell for what he is, an evil fool.
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But Mitch McConnell is leaving. The amazing thing is the people who might replace him have exactly
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the same views. Meanwhile, Zelensky, the leader of Ukraine, a country that canceled its elections,
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doesn't have freedom of speech or religion, is destroying a Christian denomination,
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this so-called democracy across the world. Zelensky is telling American media that actually
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the United States has not done enough for him. And so he is doing all he can behind the scenes to lobby
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our leaders and our media companies. Zelensky, by the way, Newsflash, is directly in touch with
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the owners of American, some owners of American media companies to massage their coverage of this
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story. But that he's been trying to lobby the new speaker of the House, Mike Johnson of Louisiana,
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Last month, you said, if we have American support, we will win. If we don't have American support,
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we will lose. It's true. Simple as that. Ukraine will lose. But it's not simple. Yeah. Yes, of course,
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we will lose. Not one day. Of course, we will lose some of our territories and it says, but totally,
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it, it, it, it, it, it, it. Для нас це буде великий виклик. Як потім повертати все? Бо це великі жертви
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повертати. Повертати території, це втрачати людей. Люди, якщо чесно, важливіше.
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And Charlie joins us now from Kyiv. Charlie, we know that President Zelensky spoke with Speaker of the House Mike Johnson
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on Thursday. What did he tell you that his message was to U.S. lawmakers?
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Well, John, in his words, he said that $60 billion aid package should have been approved
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yesterday. Oh, it should have been approved yesterday. Well, apparently he's successfully
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made that case to Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, who has said the second the congressional
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recess ends, his number one priority at a moment when the U.S. is being invaded will be to send that
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$60 billion to Ukraine, possibly as a loan, not that, of course, anyone expects Ukraine will ever
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repay or be grateful for that money. They're not grateful now. So we sent a message to the Speaker
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of the House and asked him to come on and explain why, when the majority of the Republicans he
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represents, both the voters and members of Congress, opposes why he would join with Democrats to do the
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one thing that Americans don't think we should do, which is send another $60 billion to pay the
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pensions of Ukrainian bureaucrats and fund a doomed war. Why are you for that? And of course,
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he hasn't responded. We also sent multiple requests to Zelensky himself for an interview
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to explain his position. Of course, he ignored that as well. There's not a lot we can do,
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but one person who actually serves in the U.S. Congress and who is saying the truth about this
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question out loud is a member from Georgia called Marjorie Taylor Greene, and she joins us now to
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explain what she's doing in the face of this insanity. Congresswoman, thank you so much for coming on.
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Do we mischaracterize any of that? Thank you for having me.
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Do you think? I mean, from an outsider's perspective, it seems like Mike Johnson is
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working, the Speaker of the House, the Republican Speaker of the House, the supposed conservative,
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is working with the Biden administration to put the priorities of Ukraine above the priorities of
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the United States and to do something that his own voters don't want him to do. Is that true,
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do you think? Yeah, that's absolutely true, Tucker, because the details of the foreign aid package
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that we're going to be voting on next week when we go back to Washington, we're reading about the
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details in the news. Let me tell you something. Not one Republican member of our conference that I
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have spoken to has any idea what is in this foreign aid package that's going to give $60 billion
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to Ukraine, and that is even the leadership offices. They haven't heard from Mike Johnson on
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the details. We're reading about it in the news the same way the American people are,
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and it's outrageous. When you saw Zelensky right there on that interview talking about,
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oh, we're going to lose territory. Oh, we really need this money. This $60 billion should have been
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approved yesterday. Let me tell you, we are losing our country to the illegal invasion that's
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happening every single day at our southern border, and I am so pissed off about it because the American
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people are pissed off about it. And while our so-called Republican Speaker of the House
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is only working with Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and Ukraine First Mitch McConnell and
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the White House and Jake Sullivan, who he talks to on the phone all the time, we are angry, and people
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have had it. We don't want $60 billion to go to Ukraine because as we slept last night, Tucker,
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we just went $40 billion more into debt, and that's because the interest in our debt is so huge,
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and our debt is so massive. This is happening while we sleep every single night. So no,
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we don't want to send $60 billion to Ukraine. We want to put our country first. It's time to care
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about America. So, I mean, is it true, do you think, that the Republican Speaker would bring this up at
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when your recess ends and get it passed without the majority of Republicans but with Democrats?
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Yeah. Yeah, because that's what he's planning to do. Here's what I've been told. Well, first off,
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let's go back, Tucker. The last vote that we had on any Ukraine funding was on September 28th of 2023.
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That was only months ago. And that vote, only 101 Republicans voted yes for $300 million. $300
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million to go to Ukraine. And that was because I pitched an enormous fit and said, take this money
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out of our Department of Defense. We should not be funding a foreign war in order to fund our military.
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That's completely wrong. And our military, their mission, as stated on their website,
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is to put our national security first. It's all about our national security. Fighting a proxy war
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with Russia in Ukraine, which is a non-NATO member nation, is not protecting America's national
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security interest. It doesn't protect the United States of America. As a matter of fact,
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that pushes us closer and closer to World War III. So we had that vote on September 28th, 2023,
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117 Republicans voted no. That was the majority of the majority. Every single Democrat voted yes.
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Every single one. They had zero Democrats vote no. Our Republican Speaker of the House is planning
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to suspend the rules next week. He is planning to not put this bill through the Rules Committee.
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He's not going to allow us to do any amendments. Amendments are our way of changing a bill.
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Amendments are our way of putting our district's interest, who we represent. That's our job title,
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representative. It's our way of changing a bill. Mike Johnson is going to tie our hands behind our
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backs and not allow us to do that. As he brings that bill to the floor, every Democrat will vote
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for it. And a small portion of Republicans, less than the majority, will vote for it as well.
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And this isn't a Republican Speaker we have right now. This is a Democrat Speaker of the House
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because there is zero daylight between what Nancy Pelosi did last Congress and what Mike Johnson is
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doing now is our so-called Republican Speaker of the House.
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It's just an amazing thing to see. Will he take a call from you?
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I'm planning to speak with him on Friday, and I'm very much looking forward to that.
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It's just interesting that he's talking, and a lot of people in the media are talking.
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We haven't been able to talk to, but to Zelensky, who's a foreigner with his own interests,
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of course, but not an American and certainly not, we hope, a voter in this country. But all these
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people take calls from Zelensky and are swayed by him. Is it a little weird to see an American
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Speaker of the House pay closer attention to a foreign leader or a number of different foreign
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leaders than he would to his own voters and colleagues in the House and our legislative body?
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Yeah, absolutely, especially considering Mike Johnson has completely changed his character in a
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matter of about five months after he has become Speaker of the House. Mike Johnson is a Christian.
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He called himself a conservative, always has been. He's a Republican member. But yet here we are
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after the minibus was passed just almost two weeks ago in Washington. And now with the $60 billion
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going to a war in Ukraine that Americans, 70 percent of Americans do not support it. That's the most
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recent polling, 70 percent of Americans. And the majority of our majority of Republicans do not support
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funding Ukraine. People want to see a peace deal in Ukraine, not murdering more Ukrainians and more
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Russians. This needs to end. But no, Mike Johnson has made a complete departure of who he is and what
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he stands for. And to the point where people are literally asking, is he blackmailed? What is wrong with
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him? Because he's completely disconnected with what we want.
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I have no idea. I can't comprehend, Tucker, what radically changes a man. I mean, if we break down
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the second part of basically an omnibus, let's break that down. So Mike Johnson is pro-life. In the
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second part of the omnibus, just less than two weeks ago, he funded full-term abortion clinics,
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full-term abortion clinics. He funded the trans agenda on children. I mean, how does that even
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happen from a Christian conservative Republican speaker? He did nothing for the southern border,
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did nothing to secure the border. And this comes on the heels of Lake and Riley being brutally
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murdered. This came on the heels of a video that was running on loop on social media where illegal
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aliens had rushed our border, ran over Texas National Guard, ran over border patrol agents in order to
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invade our country. These were military-aged men, by the way. He did nothing to secure a border. It's
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the number one issue in the world. He completely changed who he was, funded the FBI, gave him a
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brand new building, fully funded the Department of Justice that is persecuting everyone on the right
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and actually targeting our presidential candidate for election this year, literally trying to put him
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in jail the rest of his life. We don't know who Mike Johnson is anymore. So there's no, I can't comprehend it.
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Well, I have noticed just from living in Washington for so long that a lot of the top decision makers
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are lying about their personal lives and there's something, you know, really amiss there. And I would
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definitely say Mitch McConnell would be among those. And there does seem to be a connection
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between the creepiness of your personal life and the deception around your personal life
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and your willingness to vote with the other side. I mean, have you noticed this at all?
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Absolutely. And I think it's something that the American people are extremely aware of because none
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of it makes sense. How do you become Speaker of the House? And let's look at that. It's basically like
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there's Establishment Washington runs like a company. We could call it The Firm. Well,
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Mike Johnson just got promoted to senior partner at The Firm because he has been obeying their every
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single demand. He funded the military. He funded the military industrial complex and everything that
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they want done. He funded Biden's open border invasion. He funded the Green New Deal, the climate
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agenda. He funded full term abortion clinics, the trans agenda on kids. He funded every single
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thing that the firm stands for and what they're trying to push on the rest of the world. This is
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the agenda for the rest of the world. And they are not, they're not hiding it one single bit. We saw
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the White House declare Easter trans day of visibility, which is the biggest insult slap in the face
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to Christians all over our country. And that's the majority of Americans. They are not hiding it.
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How did Christian conservative Mike Johnson go from being a Christian conservative, voting that way,
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legislating that way, to the Speaker of the House that actually funds that agenda? I mean,
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what in the world happens? And you can't help but to question, what do they have on him? Is he being
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blackmailed? What would make this man do this? And I would argue there's something wrong because every
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single time I hear him open his mouth, he's complaining about how tired he is and talking
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about how he only gets three hours of sleep at night. Tucker, let me tell you something.
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And you know this too. I have worked my ass off like at times in my life where I'm training for
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triathlons, training for major competitions, working full time, raising three children. And at those times
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in my life, I was still able to get seven or eight hours of sleep, busy as can be. There's something wrong
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with your conscience if you're only getting three hours of sleep at night and you're tired all the
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time. And it's because you are, you are going against your, who you are. You're going against
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your inner self. You're going against the person that you are, but you're turning into something
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else. And, and I think something is seriously wrong, not only with him, but many other people
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in Washington, DC. Man, I think that's such a deep, that's such a deep point. And thank you for
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making that. And to the, and look, I try not to invoke people's religious faith. I feel like it's
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personal, kind of not my business, but Mike Johnson has talked a lot about his faith as a, as a, as a
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Christian. And he says that it informs all of his decisions. So with that in mind, here he is
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funding a government in Ukraine that's putting priests in jail, putting, literally putting priests
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in jail, banning a Christian denomination, you know, sending the army in to close churches.
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And he's also funding a war in Gaza that's killing Christians and blowing up Christian churches.
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So how can a Christian be in favor of using U.S. tax dollars to kill and imprison other Christians?
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Yeah, you can't be, it's called a hypocrisy is what that's called. That's that, that is completely
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against every, every tenant of our Christian faith. It's against what the Bible says. You know,
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if we went to biblical principles, Tucker, biblical principles teach us to not be in debt because we
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are slaves to our debtor. But yet this morning when Americans woke up, they found themselves
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$34.6 trillion in debt, and it went up $40 billion while they slept. So that's, that is
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completely against our Christian faith, against our, our principles that the Bible teaches us.
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But to fund the murder every single day, to fund a war, to pay for it, to continue it, to advise it,
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to have our CIA on the ground over there running that war in Ukraine against Russia, nuclear armed
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Russia. This is beyond this. You can't even call yourself a Christian if that's what you're doing.
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That is a complete departure from anything that is Christian. And I would argue funding wars all over
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the world is a complete departure because here's the truth. They lie to us every single day, Tucker,
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telling us that Vladimir Putin and Russia is going to continue and march across Europe and take over
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Europe. That is a complete lie because that is not what we are seeing with our eyes. And that is not
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what history, recent history is showing us. And that is not the statements of Vladimir Putin and Russia.
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That is not what they are saying they want to do.
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Yeah. I mean, like they care about Europe. They blew up their natural gas pipeline.
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They impoverished Europe. They destroyed the economy of Europe, Mike Johnson and his friends.
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So last question, is this actually going to happen? Will this funding go through with Mike Johnson leading
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Yes. Everything that I've seen, everyone that I've talked to is this is happening next week.
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He's going to suspend the rules. He's going to bring it to the floor for a vote. Every Democrat is going
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to wear their blue and yellow lapel pins and flags and scarves, and they're going to vote to fund that.
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And we're going to have, you know, a percentage of our Republicans that actually support it will vote
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to fund it. And it will pass in the House. It will pass in the House. It'll go to the Senate.
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Mitch McConnell will line up his little Senate soldiers and they will vote for it. And Chuck
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Schumer can't wait to pass it because, I mean, because Ukraine is everything, right? Ukraine is
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everything. Murdering an entire generation of Ukrainian men is the most important thing that
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they can do. And yeah, they'll pass it. And then Joe Biden will sign it into law.
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Yeah. Shutting down churches. Well, that's their agenda anyway. Is there any way to stop it?
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If the American people, if the American people, let me tell you something, Tucker,
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and I can't make this point loud enough. The American people can stop our government.
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They can. When they decide that it's important enough for them, when they realize that within
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10 years, in 10 years, CBO has projected that we will be approximately $55 trillion in debt
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at the current spending levels. If everything stays the same, we're going to be $55 trillion
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in debt in 10 years. We are going to implode. If the American people finally decide they're tired of
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illegal aliens murdering them, they're tired of illegal aliens squatting in their homes,
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they're tired of illegal alien men raping children and raping women. Yeah. If the American people
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finally have had enough and say, no, they can stop it. And let me tell you, Tucker, if the American
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people say enough of sending money to foreign wars and foreign aid and funding the murder of people
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in foreign countries and countries we can't even find on a map most of the time. Yeah. If the American
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people say they've had enough of that and they're able to engage in this and stop spending all their
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money on all their hobbies and being disconnected and refusing to look at the serious situation that
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we're living in right now. Oh yeah. The American people have far more power than I have. And I'm
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a member of Congress. If they literally hold our government accountable and stand up and say enough
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of this. And I think they should throw out every single elected official. I'm not kidding. Every one
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of us should be thrown out. This government is a failure to the American people. And I'm angry about
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it, Tucker, because I'm a mom, my adult children and that generation and your kids and our grandchildren
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at the current current rate right now, they'll never be able to afford a home. They have no
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strong financial future and they are going to be living and raising their own children in a country
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whose government has screwed all of us over. And that is the flat out honest truth, Tucker. And so,
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yeah, the American people could stop it if they really want to. I hope that lion roars. I will say
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Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene of the state of Georgia. Thank you so much for that. Good luck.