The Tucker Carlson Show - August 13, 2026


The Truth About the Inflation Crisis and the Psychopaths Lying to You About It


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00:00:00.000 And some of the deepest political analysis is the most simple, the most straightforward.
00:00:05.940 People who note obvious truths sometimes trigger the most profound thoughts in the rest of us.
00:00:11.000 So with that in mind, it is not criticism to say that the following tweet was one of the most simple and obvious and yet meaningful in a long time.
00:00:18.900 This is from last week on the Twitter app, X, on your phone.
00:00:23.700 And it's from Matt Walsh of The Daily Wire.
00:00:25.940 And here's the totality of what he wrote.
00:00:27.280 Here's the whole tweet.
00:00:28.020 and see if you agree or disagree. Grocery prices are insane. They're still rising.
00:00:35.660 Addressing this problem should be the number one priority of every elected leader.
00:00:39.900 End the stupid foreign wars and focus on this issue. It's one of the main reasons
00:00:44.520 socialists are gaining power. So we can go through line by line and assess the veracity
00:00:50.940 of each one of them, but it's just obvious looking at that every single word of that is true. Yes,
00:00:55.620 grocery prices are rising. They're insane. Who hasn't gone to the grocery store in the last year
00:01:01.040 and said, whew, really? 200 bucks? You know, I didn't fill my cart. They're higher than they
00:01:06.300 were. Now, there are all kinds of measures of inflation, famously the Consumer Product Index,
00:01:11.360 the CPI. And a lot of them are skewed, some intentionally skewed, designed to hide the
00:01:17.140 truth rather than illuminate it. But you don't need to consult any of them to get to what's
00:01:22.760 actually happening, all you got to do is buy the things that you've always bought, a tube of
00:01:25.960 Crest toothpaste, a jar of Skippy peanut butter, whatever's in your cart every week is more
00:01:30.440 expensive than it was a year ago, two years ago, certainly more than it was five years ago.
00:01:35.140 There is inflation in real terms, whether or not the government admits it, whether or not our
00:01:39.120 political leaders want to own up to it or claim much reserved responsibility for it. Because yes,
00:01:43.720 it's not organic. It's their fault, but it's real. You know, it's real. So why is this a problem?
00:01:48.500 Well, it's a problem because for a lot of people, it makes it hard to live here.
00:01:52.760 The United States is suddenly an expensive country.
00:01:56.980 If you've lived here your whole life,
00:01:58.780 you probably have, for the most of your life,
00:02:01.120 thought of it as a rich country.
00:02:02.900 But an expensive country,
00:02:04.880 that's the kind of place you go on vacation.
00:02:07.260 That's Monaco or Barcelona.
00:02:09.860 That's Tokyo.
00:02:10.800 That's some place you take your family
00:02:12.180 and then get home and say,
00:02:13.920 whew, I don't have to pay those prices every day.
00:02:15.740 Well, suddenly you live in that country.
00:02:17.080 You live in an expensive country
00:02:19.360 where people are worried about having enough money
00:02:22.100 to pay the basic bills.
00:02:24.460 Housing, food, insurance, medical, cars.
00:02:30.940 It's all much more expensive than it was.
00:02:33.880 Then he goes on to say,
00:02:34.960 stop these stupid foreign wars
00:02:36.740 and focus on this issue.
00:02:38.260 Well, that's obvious.
00:02:40.200 Why wouldn't you want to do that?
00:02:42.240 Now, why would you want to do that?
00:02:43.400 Well, because in a democracy,
00:02:44.440 your job, if you're a leader,
00:02:46.100 is to represent the people who elected you,
00:02:48.580 which is to say,
00:02:49.140 to take their concerns to Washington
00:02:50.980 and try and do something about them, fix their problems.
00:02:54.180 That's why you're there.
00:02:55.340 That's the whole purpose of our government.
00:02:57.080 It doesn't exist to serve itself, much less a foreign country.
00:03:00.600 It exists to serve its population.
00:03:02.900 That's literally the whole point.
00:03:05.160 There is no other point.
00:03:07.640 And so if people across the country of all parties
00:03:10.500 are saying grocery prices are insane,
00:03:13.480 then you should probably think long and hard
00:03:14.840 about what to do about that, if you can.
00:03:17.480 And there's no poll taken in the last year
00:03:19.600 that shows that people are more concerned
00:03:21.000 about the Iranian nuclear program
00:03:22.820 or Islamic Jihad or some Muslim group far away
00:03:26.540 than they are about the price of Skippy peanut butter.
00:03:28.640 There's no poll that shows that
00:03:30.080 because the majority doesn't feel that way.
00:03:32.320 And why would it?
00:03:33.460 Who cares about Islamic Jihad?
00:03:35.620 Honestly, who really cares
00:03:37.040 about the Iranian nuclear program?
00:03:39.120 Not compared to your ability to live here
00:03:41.380 or remain solvent through an illness
00:03:45.000 or send your kids to school
00:03:46.180 or even go on vacation.
00:03:49.600 Those are the real concerns that people have.
00:03:51.440 And why wouldn't they be?
00:03:53.420 And then the final line, the reason socialists are succeeding, and they are, says Matt Walsh,
00:04:00.360 is because the people in charge, which would be Republicans at this point, are ignoring
00:04:04.580 these issues.
00:04:06.960 He's blaming inattention by our leaders for the rise of socialism.
00:04:12.140 Is that a controversial thing to say?
00:04:14.100 Is that untrue?
00:04:15.460 Of course, it's entirely true.
00:04:17.080 And it's always been true.
00:04:19.600 There has always been a movement for socialism, however defined, in the United States,
00:04:26.400 certainly since the mass migration of the turn of the last century.
00:04:29.720 There has been a vibrant socialist movement, small but active.
00:04:33.960 And one of the aims of both parties, and they both agree on this, is to keep it at bay.
00:04:37.500 Now, how do you do that?
00:04:39.100 Well, mostly not with force, by stealing the issues.
00:04:43.020 So the claim that socialists make is we care about you.
00:04:46.860 And we want to make sure you have enough money to live here without worrying unduly.
00:04:50.660 That's the core claim.
00:04:52.500 And they may be against Thanksgiving and for transgenderism or whatever insane idea they're
00:04:57.200 for, and a lot of them are for those ideas.
00:04:59.020 But their fundamental pitch is an economic pitch, and the pitch itself is not crazy.
00:05:04.000 Their solutions may not work, but the pitch they make to voters is very straightforward.
00:05:09.060 And anybody can understand it.
00:05:10.320 You don't have to be a socialist to agree.
00:05:12.120 I'm certainly not a socialist.
00:05:13.880 But why wouldn't I want leaders who care what Skippy peanut butter costs?
00:05:17.080 Well, of course I would.
00:05:18.680 And this has been recognized forever.
00:05:21.920 A chicken in every pot.
00:05:23.400 That was the promise of the Herbert Hoover for President campaign in 1928.
00:05:27.960 His supporters said, elect Herbert Hoover and there'll be a chicken in every pot.
00:05:32.420 In other words, we'll lower the price of Doritos with Skippy peanut butter.
00:05:35.840 Now, he made that claim one year before the Great Depression,
00:05:39.080 made it a lot harder to put a chicken in every pot.
00:05:41.640 But even before the Depression, Hoover supporters knew, just like any awake person would know,
00:05:48.380 that economic concerns are the core concerns of voters and ignore them at your peril.
00:05:52.620 And by the way, there was a socialist candidate that year in 1928, Norman Thomas, who by modern
00:05:58.880 standards was totally moderate. By the way, he was a Presbyterian minister. He was kind of a wet
00:06:03.740 liberal. He was hardly a transgender activist or an anti-white hater or anything like that.
00:06:09.840 He didn't want to ban Thanksgiving,
00:06:11.560 but he wanted to make sure
00:06:13.060 that people's material needs were met.
00:06:15.020 And that's not a crazy goal.
00:06:16.720 So to keep him from getting into power,
00:06:19.000 people like him,
00:06:21.100 the Hoover campaign promised
00:06:22.220 that they would pay attention to food prices.
00:06:24.820 Doesn't mean that they were tools of socialism.
00:06:29.300 Actually meant they were opponents of socialism
00:06:31.200 because they knew that if they didn't pay attention,
00:06:34.260 you could conceivably get a socialist.
00:06:38.120 Norman Thomas didn't do very well that year,
00:06:39.980 probably because Herbert Hoover took the threat seriously.
00:06:43.880 So this is not a new idea at all.
00:06:47.100 It's the oldest idea because it's the most obvious idea.
00:06:49.620 If you don't attend to people's actual concerns,
00:06:53.340 they will go elsewhere.
00:06:54.920 And in a purportedly democratic system,
00:06:56.820 they have a whole range of options, by the way,
00:06:59.320 most of which we haven't been presented with
00:07:00.840 in recent history,
00:07:01.920 but it could get pretty radical here.
00:07:03.300 Why wouldn't it?
00:07:04.800 And so you probably shouldn't ignore those concerns.
00:07:08.320 That's all Matt Walsh was trying to say.
00:07:10.120 He works at the Daily Wire.
00:07:11.120 He's not a wild-eyed radical.
00:07:12.960 But you would have thought he was reading the Communist Manifesto on air and burning
00:07:17.860 an American flag, given the response from his fellow conservatives, other elements of
00:07:23.240 the MAGA coalition.
00:07:25.760 Rather than just, well, ignoring him, if you disagree with someone, you always have the
00:07:29.360 option to just ignore him.
00:07:31.040 Didn't hear what you said.
00:07:31.800 Sorry.
00:07:32.040 rather than just ignoring him or maybe even smarter paying lip service to agreement yeah
00:07:39.240 no matt walsh makes a smart point like people people care what their groceries cost normal
00:07:43.180 people care maybe you even find out what groceries cost and then play a more elaborate role and oh i
00:07:50.140 was at the grocery yesterday and boy prices are high we're going to do something about that
00:07:53.740 you would think they would do that but that's the opposite of what they did and by they i mean
00:08:01.320 the neocons, the people who are in charge of the Trump administration, not the people who
00:08:05.620 came in with Trump, but the people who somehow took control of the Trump administration and
00:08:09.740 turned it in a totally different direction from the one most of us voted for. Those people
00:08:14.500 attacked Matt Walsh, and not just Matt Walsh, but the idea that it is legitimate, that it's allowed,
00:08:22.460 that it's within bounds to complain about food prices. What's wrong with you?
00:08:26.940 complaining about food prices?
00:08:32.580 We're going to play you a clip from someone
00:08:34.400 from whom we try to play a lot of clips.
00:08:36.840 It's Ben Shapiro.
00:08:37.760 We're going to play it in just a sec,
00:08:38.620 but before we do, just a caveat.
00:08:40.320 We're not playing this to suggest
00:08:42.160 that Ben Shapiro was like a shaper of history,
00:08:45.560 a mover in American politics.
00:08:47.480 He's not.
00:08:49.060 He's an employee like most everybody else.
00:08:51.560 He's doing what he's told.
00:08:52.620 He represents larger interests, obviously.
00:08:54.780 So why bother to replay and then rebut something that Ben Shapiro said?
00:09:02.060 Well, in an effort to speak to the people who put him up to it.
00:09:05.680 So the whole point of Ben Shapiro, and there is a point to Ben Shapiro.
00:09:09.640 This is not like some organic phenomenon.
00:09:11.320 Like Ben Shapiro was just so charming and brilliant that he somehow got into Harvard
00:09:14.340 Law School and then eyebrows and all emerged as a social media titan.
00:09:18.120 No, of course not.
00:09:20.260 Ben Shapiro had a deal with Facebook.
00:09:21.900 You know, a deal no one else got.
00:09:25.240 And so the point of Ben Shapiro was,
00:09:27.180 here's a way to send a very specific message
00:09:30.500 to outline and sell a very specific worldview
00:09:33.320 to young people.
00:09:35.360 Ben Shapiro is an old person's idea of a young person.
00:09:39.080 He is a spokesman for a group of older people
00:09:43.640 aimed at younger people.
00:09:45.180 I have an idea.
00:09:46.460 Let's get Ben Shapiro.
00:09:47.700 This guy, Ben Shapiro, he's brilliant.
00:09:49.280 He's a really promising young kid.
00:09:50.840 and we'll get him to sell free market economics
00:09:53.860 and a robust Reaganite forum policy to the young folks.
00:09:57.880 And by the way, it kind of worked for a while
00:09:59.840 thanks to the trans movement,
00:10:00.980 which you suspect they also kind of concocted
00:10:03.060 this same group, but whatever, wherever that came from.
00:10:07.320 For a while, Ben Shapiro seemed like
00:10:09.120 he was on the side of common sense
00:10:10.200 and he's for free speech
00:10:11.060 and he's against the trans lunacy, et cetera, et cetera.
00:10:13.900 But always from day one,
00:10:16.280 the point was Ben Shapiro is going to sell
00:10:19.220 this very specific version of economics, not capitalism, bears no resemblance to anything
00:10:27.200 Adam Smith advocated for, but the kind of modern American monopoly arrangement where
00:10:34.220 six companies can behave like countries, have sovereignty, unlike our own nation, and control
00:10:41.320 every part of your life through debt, which is kind of broad but fairly accurate definition
00:10:47.160 of our current economic system.
00:10:49.000 So sell that and then sell the even harder to pitch idea that it's unpatriotic to oppose
00:10:57.920 wars for Israel.
00:10:59.540 Like, first of all, it's obviously anti-Semitic.
00:11:01.600 I mean, it's just an expression of hate if you don't want to regime change some country
00:11:05.360 you can't find on a map.
00:11:06.480 Obviously, you're a bigot.
00:11:07.280 You're basically a Nazi.
00:11:08.840 In fact, you must be for Hitler.
00:11:10.180 You probably are opposed to the Second World War, too.
00:11:12.840 You probably have problems with Churchill.
00:11:14.040 it's literally immoral to oppose ben shapiro's employers foreign policy but it's also un-american
00:11:25.420 like this country was founded to fight wars for israel that's why we're here
00:11:29.160 i mean our founder said explicitly america exists as a judeo-christian country to support
00:11:35.820 israel okay so whatever whatever prime minister of that country wants we're doing i mean that's
00:11:41.360 why we're here. So if you're against it, you don't believe in America. You're against America. Why
00:11:46.480 don't you just leave? Maybe we'll revoke your green card. Oh, don't I have a green card? We'll
00:11:49.460 strip of your citizenship. And that's what ICE exists to do now. In any case, you should know
00:11:55.140 watching this that these are not just Ben Shapiro's opinions. They said he actually has opinions. Who
00:11:59.360 knows? But these are the opinions of the people who prop up Ben Shapiro, who created Ben Shapiro.
00:12:04.600 And this is what they think. This is the argument they sincerely believe apparently is going to
00:12:10.740 appeal to young people who are worried about the price of burritos. Watch this. Unfortunately,
00:12:16.560 this has become the mode for a lot of young people. Why can't I afford what my parents
00:12:20.040 could afford when they were my age? Spoiler alert, when it comes to groceries, you can.
00:12:24.200 And in areas, by the way, for housing, where deregulation has been the rule, you still can.
00:12:29.160 In fact, you have today more restaurant options, your food costs less of your disposable income,
00:12:34.520 and it is probably significantly better. Here in the United States of America, we are fatter,
00:12:38.700 richer, have nicer houses, nicer cars, and the food we eat is much, much better than it was
00:12:43.320 for our parents in general. Our parents probably would have considered a 450 burrito at Del Taco
00:12:49.020 a gourmet meal. Your parents would have considered a 450 taco at Del Taco a deal because your parents
00:12:57.280 were proles. They were pathetic. They were disgusting people and anything was enough for
00:13:03.460 them. You don't want to use the term goyslop, but it does seem kind of appropriate in this
00:13:07.720 specific instance, they would be grateful for a Del Taco. What are you complaining about?
00:13:15.300 It's hilarious, but it's the first sign that really does catch your attention. He says it
00:13:19.980 is fashionable, this mode among young people to complain that life is more expensive than it was
00:13:25.940 for their parents. So here you have this whole new generation, this entitled, fat, lazy, tattooed,
00:13:31.760 drug addicted, screen mesmerized generation that has no idea what's good for itself, but is all
00:13:39.220 about entitlement, whining and entitlement. And the main thing they think they're entitled to
00:13:44.240 is a life as good as the life their parents led. Who gave them that idea?
00:13:50.380 Of course, that used to be, I think it was referred to euphemistically as the American dream.
00:13:55.340 And the American dream was the idea that your children might have a better life than you had.
00:14:00.320 And yes, not just spiritually, but materially.
00:14:03.460 They might have the things that you wanted, but couldn't have.
00:14:06.100 That's why you work hard to give them opportunities.
00:14:09.200 But Ben Shapiro was telling you, what?
00:14:11.620 We never said that.
00:14:13.540 Who told you that was a real promise?
00:14:16.540 How dare you want what your parents had?
00:14:19.500 Who do you think you are?
00:14:21.680 Eat your Del Taco and be happy.
00:14:24.340 $4.50 for a Del Taco?
00:14:26.160 What a deal.
00:14:27.380 And you know how we know it's a good deal?
00:14:28.760 You know how you know America's thriving?
00:14:30.320 because it's fatter. By the way, if you live in China during one of the recent famines during
00:14:37.420 the Cultural Revolution, obesity was a sign of affluence. But of course, we don't live in China
00:14:43.760 during a famine. We live in late stage empire in the United States where obesity is not a sign of
00:14:49.840 affluence, but instead a sign of discouragement and poverty. That's the truth. It's a sign most
00:14:55.280 of the time of sadness, not of a thyroid condition, but of depression. So people who are depressed
00:15:01.320 get fat. So if you want to know how your population is doing, measure their BMI.
00:15:07.820 So a little weird for Ben Shapiro to say, we're doing great, we're fat. But what is actually going
00:15:14.880 on here is what is happening across our society on so many different issues, which is a rewriting
00:15:21.740 of history in real time. You just saw something happen. You saw, I don't know, let's just pick
00:15:26.580 an example. Israel pushed Donald Trump into a war that hurts the United States that we cannot
00:15:30.760 possibly win. There's all downside for us, but potentially upside for Israel. That would be the
00:15:34.780 war with Iran, the regime change war that no one in America supported. And you watch that happen
00:15:40.620 at the end of February of this year. But within days, they were telling you, what? Are you an
00:15:43.960 anti-Semite? That didn't happen. Israel didn't push Trump to war with Iran. Were you saying
00:15:49.800 Trump has no agency?
00:15:50.760 Are you saying Trump's weak?
00:15:52.720 Well, obviously, Trump is weak.
00:15:54.840 That's why he allowed the Israelis to push him to war.
00:15:57.100 I mean, who doesn't know that?
00:15:59.240 Of course he's weak.
00:16:01.320 But it doesn't matter weak or strong.
00:16:03.580 That's what happened.
00:16:04.960 And they admitted it happened.
00:16:06.400 And we saw it happen.
00:16:07.540 And anyone who paid any attention at all had no doubt at all, because it was true, that
00:16:11.200 that's what happened.
00:16:12.060 Israel pushed Trump to war with Iran.
00:16:14.600 It's not like there were critical American interests at stake.
00:16:16.980 There weren't.
00:16:18.140 There are now.
00:16:20.400 But what's interesting is that almost immediately after,
00:16:23.640 every big news organization in the United States
00:16:25.480 started telling you what you just saw
00:16:27.700 is not what you just saw.
00:16:28.960 And if you thought you just saw that,
00:16:30.260 the problem is you.
00:16:31.760 There's something wrong with your brain
00:16:33.080 and with your heart.
00:16:34.540 You're a hater.
00:16:35.820 You must hate Jews.
00:16:37.600 Well, no, we don't hate Jews at all.
00:16:41.760 But that just happened.
00:16:42.980 Shut up.
00:16:44.540 And by the way, we haven't seen polling on it,
00:16:46.860 but it's probably been pretty successful.
00:16:47.940 If you scream at people long enough and persistently enough and tell them lies consistently enough, after a while, they kind of give up and believe those lies.
00:17:01.980 You can change the collective memory about an event pretty quickly after that event occurred.
00:17:07.880 And then you can encode it forever in what we used to call the history books and we now afford to as AI, which is our collective consciousness.
00:17:15.120 And forever after, something that didn't happen will be recorded as historical truth.
00:17:22.820 That can happen.
00:17:24.000 We're watching it right now.
00:17:26.220 So one of the things that Ben Shapiro's employers are trying to tell you is that actually your
00:17:31.020 life is way better than previous generations.
00:17:33.440 You've got it so good, you don't know how good you've got it.
00:17:37.000 And if you can't see that, the problem is you.
00:17:39.380 So stop complaining, bitch, you little whiner.
00:17:43.400 Get to work.
00:17:45.900 Retirement?
00:17:46.940 What?
00:17:47.800 That's for ungrateful people.
00:17:49.660 Get back to work.
00:17:51.220 Eat your Del Taco.
00:17:52.660 They're only 450.
00:17:54.100 Your parents would have been grateful for a 450 Del Taco.
00:17:58.180 Getting out after 18 hours in the spinning mill.
00:18:00.760 They were only nine years old.
00:18:02.080 They didn't have Del Taco then.
00:18:04.400 That's what they're trying to tell you your parents' generation lived through.
00:18:07.880 But did it?
00:18:10.640 You know, we could make a detailed case based on the statistics,
00:18:14.160 which are still publicly available from, say, two generations ago.
00:18:17.600 Let's just pick the biggest generation in American history, the baby boom.
00:18:20.900 And we could tell you everything about their lives.
00:18:23.120 You know the average age at which people had babies?
00:18:30.080 And let's just pick a year.
00:18:31.280 I'll pick the year I was born, 1969.
00:18:33.720 Women had babies in the United States on average at the age of 20.
00:18:36.440 20 years old.
00:18:38.340 How'd they do that?
00:18:39.600 How could you afford a baby at 20?
00:18:42.960 You can't afford a baby at 20.
00:18:45.180 Childcare is so expensive.
00:18:47.100 Do you know how much it costs to hire someone
00:18:48.520 from Central America to watch your child
00:18:50.280 while you work as a bank teller?
00:18:52.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:18:53.400 That couldn't have happened.
00:18:54.540 Oh, but it did.
00:18:56.760 It did happen.
00:18:58.580 And it's provable.
00:19:00.080 But maybe a more telling picture
00:19:05.080 of what life was like in,
00:19:07.760 let's just pick that same year, 1969,
00:19:09.420 is an actual picture from 1969.
00:19:12.140 Let's pick the biggest event that year in the United States, certainly the most celebrated
00:19:17.720 and lovingly cataloged event, not simply of that year, the summer of 1969, the same year
00:19:22.820 as the moon landing, but of that entire generation, the baby boom, the famous baby boom that everyone
00:19:27.540 loves to despise, and for good reason.
00:19:29.560 People born between 1946 and 1964, right smack in the middle, 1969 was the year of the Woodstock
00:19:35.180 Music Festival in Woodstock, New York.
00:19:36.820 and numbers kind of vary about how many people went 400,000 600,000 hundreds of thousands
00:19:44.060 of americans went to that event and there are a lot of pictures of it and they're all on the
00:19:49.160 internet we've got a couple not great pictures of it but take 10 minutes tonight and look at
00:19:54.600 the pictures not of the performers sly and the family stone and the grateful dead and richie
00:19:58.140 havens and all the rest most of them long dead but take a look at the crowd there it is right
00:20:03.920 there. That's the crowd at Woodstock. Now that's a far away shot. So you kind of get a sense of
00:20:10.180 the scale of it, but you kind of get a sense of the demographic composition of it. So 1969,
00:20:14.940 this country was about 90% white, 89, 88, 89% white, about 10 or 11% black. And interestingly,
00:20:24.320 or maybe not surprisingly, the crowd at this massive end is about that. It was probably a
00:20:27.800 little more than 90% white, maybe 95% white, but then it was at least 5% black. So it was,
00:20:33.660 on some basic level, representative of the American population, 90% white, 10% black.
00:20:39.900 But zoom in a little bit. What do you notice? That's not a great shot. They're more on the
00:20:47.080 internet and you should definitely look them up, but those are shirtless people.
00:20:52.140 And if you look carefully and they're leaned over, the first thing you notice, what's the
00:20:58.020 first thing you notice? Well, the complexion of the skin, again, 90% white. But after that,
00:21:03.460 the first thing you notice is you can see the ribs on almost every single person at that event.
00:21:07.740 These are thin fit people with muscle definition and not a single hint of what we call now a love
00:21:13.660 handle. These are people like triathletes. And this is a broad cross section. In fact,
00:21:20.080 it's probably not even the healthiest cross section of American society in 1969. These
00:21:24.540 were the drug users of 1969. These were the party people. They're sleeping outside for three days in
00:21:30.280 a field in upstate New York. I mean, these are not probably the captain of every track team
00:21:36.280 on the Eastern Seaboard. These are like the stoners. And yet even the stoners in 1969 looked
00:21:44.320 well, fit, trim, and happy. Of course, they were dippy and they had stupid ideas and they were
00:21:50.340 running around naked in the field. And it doesn't sound entirely bad, but they were misguided and
00:21:56.560 dumb and probably had opinions that were maybe even malicious. But they certainly looked happy.
00:22:05.100 They looked cheerful. They looked like they thought the future was going to be great,
00:22:09.500 better than today. They had not been lectured by their leaders to be grateful for a Del Taco.
00:22:15.340 In fact, they weren't eating Del Tacos. And you can tell by the way they look.
00:22:20.620 And so you can't look at those pictures, and thousands more like them on the internet,
00:22:25.140 of this country before this era that we're living in now
00:22:29.180 and say the people are better off.
00:22:32.020 They're gravely worse off.
00:22:34.020 And you can see it in their faces and in their tattoos
00:22:36.480 and in their piercings and in their demeanor.
00:22:38.700 And they're not all failing, of course.
00:22:42.400 They're amazing young people who are bright-eyed
00:22:44.480 and hopeful, optimistic, on it, so impressive.
00:22:49.340 But you can't say they're more confident about their future
00:22:52.620 than their parents were because they're not.
00:22:54.780 and the right not to be.
00:22:56.660 So if you cared about them,
00:22:58.400 you would consider that a tragedy.
00:23:01.800 As a matter of public policy,
00:23:03.140 you would consider it a disaster.
00:23:04.420 It's exactly the opposite
00:23:05.340 of what you're charged with doing.
00:23:07.600 Your job, if you run the American government
00:23:10.460 or if you seek to influence
00:23:11.620 the running of the American government,
00:23:12.780 your job is really simple.
00:23:14.100 Help the people thrive.
00:23:15.220 That's it.
00:23:16.800 And by the way, once again,
00:23:17.860 if you don't do it, someone else will.
00:23:19.980 Maybe someone with an economic program
00:23:21.260 that doesn't work.
00:23:22.480 Maybe someone with deep racial animus
00:23:24.400 that's going to split the country along racial lines.
00:23:26.480 Maybe someone who hates white people
00:23:27.480 or thinks that men can become women or something crazy.
00:23:30.660 That person's going to win anyway.
00:23:32.840 Why?
00:23:33.760 One reason.
00:23:35.000 Because he at least pretends to care
00:23:37.640 about the people who live here.
00:23:40.100 And not just their material well-being,
00:23:43.760 but their spiritual well-being.
00:23:46.340 Are they happy?
00:23:48.020 Can you imagine four or 500,000 American 18-year-olds
00:23:53.300 plucked at random from cities across the country in a field this summer, this month, August,
00:23:59.960 57 years after Woodstock, can you imagine what they would look like with their shirts off?
00:24:04.480 Which is not to make fun of their lumpy physiques. That happens to a lot of us over time.
00:24:09.740 But can you imagine what their faces would look like? Would they look as cheerful as the kids you
00:24:15.860 see in the pictures of Woodstock? You hope so. Probably not. So maybe the last thing they need
00:24:22.720 is to be lectured by people who are clearly the beneficiaries of unearned privilege,
00:24:28.280 like Ben Shapiro, who somehow got into Harvard Law School, despite a middling IQ.
00:24:34.480 How did that happen? Never asked. People like that have no standing at all to lecture the rest
00:24:41.920 of America's young people about whether or not they complain about their clearly declining
00:24:48.840 standard of living and their future prospects. They have no standing at all, but they do it
00:24:53.980 anyway. Now, why do they do it? Well, there are two reasons they do it. First, because they feel
00:24:59.560 it. Now, the second Matt Wall sent that tweet out, there was a chorus of people making exactly
00:25:05.940 the same noise as Ben Shapiro made. Shut up. Burritos are enough for you. A $20 burrito is
00:25:13.120 a good deal. Eat your burrito and be quiet. Eat your burrito and be happy. No chalupas for you.
00:25:19.580 So there was that.
00:25:22.260 So it's clearly coordinated.
00:25:25.800 But it's not just coordination that gets us to a talking point like that.
00:25:30.240 There was deep feeling behind it.
00:25:32.240 And that feeling was contempt.
00:25:34.440 That was loathing of the people complaining.
00:25:39.120 That was loathing of the population.
00:25:40.840 And that is part and parcel of this whole program.
00:25:42.860 And this ultimately is the reason that the neocon worldview is a cancerous worldview.
00:25:50.400 Not simply because it's wrong about which countries we ought to invade, which leaders
00:25:54.860 we ought to topple, which democracies we ought to erect in countries whose languages we don't
00:25:59.040 speak.
00:25:59.400 Okay, it's obviously all wrong, but that's not the worst thing about it.
00:26:03.600 The worst thing about it is not just its inattention to the fortunes of actual Americans,
00:26:08.680 it's hostility, it's hatred of Americans. Because there's no other way to describe
00:26:16.000 the kind of feelings that could get you to give a lecture like the one Ben Shapiro gave.
00:26:20.680 If someone you loved turned to you and said, man, I'm overwhelmed by the cost of food.
00:26:27.000 If you love that person, you might ultimately explain, well, maybe you're buying the wrong
00:26:31.420 food and I have a solution for you. But would your first impulse be to tell the person to
00:26:36.580 shut up and be grateful for a burrito from Del Taco? Probably not. That's the way you speak to
00:26:42.360 people you hate, who you resent, whose degradation pleases you. That was the most revealing moment
00:26:50.880 because it showed you the true motive of Ben Shapiro and people like Ben Shapiro.
00:26:56.600 They don't like you. And if they did, they wouldn't talk like that to you.
00:27:00.720 They would show compassion, but they don't ever. It shouldn't surprise you, by the way.
00:27:06.380 anyone pushing for a war like the war with Iran clearly hates you, clearly, no matter what they
00:27:11.180 say. And keep in mind that every attack on your interests always comes guised as a liberation
00:27:16.440 movement. We're going to liberate you, liberate you from the fear you doubtless feel from Islamic
00:27:20.280 jihad. You're probably worrying about Hezbollah a lot. What? No. Hezbollah what? You worry a lot
00:27:25.340 about Hezbollah, but we're going to save you from that. You know, the Iran nuclear program is a
00:27:28.340 massive threat. Oh, where's Iran? It is. Trust me, they've killed thousands of Americans. What? Who?
00:27:33.960 shut up, they have. And so they tell you, of course, that whatever they're doing is to save
00:27:40.380 you from something you probably didn't feel a threat from before, like, I don't know, marriage
00:27:44.980 or cheap food. Think of all the liberation movements, decent schools, safe neighborhoods.
00:27:51.020 We're going to liberate you from that in the name of civil rights. Oh, yeah. We're going to liberate
00:27:54.620 you from marriage. It's really a prison. Yeah, big prison. We're going to set you alone in an
00:27:59.620 by yourself with your cat. You can order your food online. We've got 450 burritos. You're
00:28:04.600 going to feel a lot better. You're going to be free finally. Okay. So of course you say that
00:28:10.140 because that's kind of what liars tell you. Whatever they're doing to hurt you is actually
00:28:14.840 in your interest. No, it's medicine. Just take it. You won't get COVID. But behind the lie is what?
00:28:23.200 Why would you lie to someone like that? Why would you tell them that? Why would you tell them
00:28:27.000 what's killing them is saving them because you hate them. Obviously. Now, the question of food
00:28:32.420 prices, something so fundamental, something every single human being deals with because everybody
00:28:36.340 has to eat. It's out in the open. It's all revealed. You can lecture me about the Iranian
00:28:42.180 nuclear program or the threat of Hezbollah. But if you're lecturing about food prices at my grocery
00:28:47.460 store, you clearly hate me. And they clearly do. You should know that. And as if we need more
00:28:53.420 evidence? Well, here's Mark Levin. On the internet, something very weird happened last week, and I was
00:28:59.580 watching this, the price of a burrito. Now, I'm not really into burritos. Every now and then, I'll go
00:29:05.120 to Taco Bell, and I'll have one or two. Pretty cheap, if you ask me. That is the price. Now, all
00:29:10.560 that said, this debate was about affordability. Now, he doesn't have to pay $20 for a burrito.
00:29:17.820 you can make it for a lot less. But I'm thinking, what the hell has happened to our society?
00:29:24.460 Where is our can-do-it mentality? We sit here with a war in Iran against an enemy that has
00:29:32.620 killed thousands of Americans, maimed thousands of Americans. I remember a time when America would
00:29:36.960 say, let's go. Let's destroy that country, destroy that government. You don't get to kill thousands
00:29:43.720 of our fellow citizens, military
00:29:45.640 or civilians. You don't get to try
00:29:47.780 to assassinate our president. You
00:29:49.700 don't get to threaten us
00:29:51.540 with potential nuclear weapons either.
00:29:54.040 Now it's a debate.
00:29:55.580 Should we take him out, shouldn't we? Are you
00:29:57.580 a neocon or a warmonger?
00:29:59.780 Is this a war of choice?
00:30:02.660 We don't even have
00:30:03.600 a draft.
00:30:05.140 Would a draft even work with young people
00:30:07.660 today? I wonder, could we even fight
00:30:09.640 World War II today?
00:30:11.420 We're whining about a dollar
00:30:12.860 of gasoline. 12 percent of the United States population served in the military during World
00:30:21.120 War II. Over 16 million Americans joined the armed forces out of a total national population
00:30:27.280 of about 130 million people. Roughly one out of every eight Americans wore a uniform. We don't
00:30:33.780 have that today. And people are still whining and complaining. It's getting embarrassing to
00:30:39.760 be perfectly honest with you.
00:30:41.720 It's embarrassing.
00:30:43.620 Your unwillingness, your reluctance, your hesitation in the face of fighting for Israel,
00:30:48.360 it's just embarrassing.
00:30:49.320 It's disgusting.
00:30:51.580 Huge percentage of Americans served during World War II.
00:30:54.100 Of course, they had no choice because there was a draft.
00:30:56.100 Why aren't they serving now?
00:30:58.300 Well, that's a question actually Mark Levin ought to ask himself, a man who didn't serve,
00:31:02.620 who could be serving now, by the way, could be on the front lines in Kiev, or for that
00:31:06.900 matter in the Gulf, but isn't.
00:31:09.760 But why aren't Americans serving 80 years after the great victory of World War II?
00:31:17.180 Well, I don't know.
00:31:18.400 Maybe they look around at the country that won that war, and they ask the obvious question.
00:31:25.220 Is this what a victorious country looks like?
00:31:28.660 If we won, why are we living like this?
00:31:32.280 If we won, why aren't things getting better?
00:31:34.160 Why are they getting worse?
00:31:34.980 Why are we so in debt?
00:31:35.880 Why does the federal government spend $7 trillion a year, but only takes in $5 trillion in tax
00:31:40.140 revenue?
00:31:41.140 What's the plan there?
00:31:42.140 How do we get there?
00:31:43.540 This is what victory looks like?
00:31:45.540 Just for fun sometime, you ought to fly from Kennedy Airport in New York to Narita Airport
00:31:50.040 in Tokyo.
00:31:50.820 Spend a day wandering around New York.
00:31:52.520 Do the whole city.
00:31:53.920 How about just Manhattan?
00:31:54.620 Just Washington Heights to Tribeca.
00:31:56.780 Just walk it.
00:31:57.420 You can do it.
00:31:57.920 It's not very long.
00:31:58.980 It's a day walk.
00:32:00.500 And then go to Tokyo, one of the biggest cities in the world.
00:32:02.960 Now, Tokyo is the city that lost.
00:32:05.020 Actually, we dropped two nuclear weapons on Japan, so they really lost.
00:32:09.740 We actually vaporized them, all their kids, too.
00:32:13.020 No country's ever lost like Japan lost in the summer of 1945.
00:32:18.560 But walk around Tokyo after a day of walking around New York.
00:32:22.100 Which city looks like it lost a war?
00:32:25.260 It's not Tokyo.
00:32:27.420 So in order to convince people to go die for a cause,
00:32:31.740 probably you should convince them the cause is worth dying for.
00:32:34.360 But which cause has been worth dying for? Honestly, dying, like actually dying. Or
00:32:39.340 how about getting your face blown off? How about your ears melted off your head? Losing all your
00:32:43.920 fingers? How about having your genitals shredded? What cause is worth that? Well, if it's worth it,
00:32:51.800 tell me how. Tell me how it's worth it because we don't speak German. A lot of Americans don't
00:32:56.860 speak English at this point. These are tired and stupid, in fact, nonsensical talking points,
00:33:03.220 but they're also more than that.
00:33:05.480 They're deeply insulting.
00:33:07.820 You are lecturing a population
00:33:09.920 that you personally have taken advantage of
00:33:12.120 whose total destruction you have overseen
00:33:16.240 and you've done nothing to stop it.
00:33:18.020 You did nothing when the Sacklers flooded Appalachia,
00:33:22.580 the part of the country that disproportionately
00:33:24.120 fought the wars that you called for
00:33:26.000 and destroyed them with opioids.
00:33:29.100 You said nothing.
00:33:29.880 you said nothing when this country was invaded and its trillion dollar military didn't stop that
00:33:36.300 invasion and for you to lecture the rest of the nation about a can-do attitude what do you make
00:33:42.380 my freaking burritos then it's too much and then to cap it off with the lie that you and every
00:33:49.780 other person in media is now repeating that iran is trying to assassinate president trump
00:33:53.620 As a statement of fact, that is not true.
00:33:56.380 So they're now telling us that Donald Trump was the target of an assassination attempt
00:34:02.280 by a guy with a man pad, a surface terror missile,
00:34:04.920 inside the security perimeter in Ankara, Turkey, during the NATO summit.
00:34:10.080 That's not true.
00:34:11.400 That's factually untrue.
00:34:12.940 And they'll lie about it.
00:34:13.660 Oh, you don't have the intel.
00:34:14.600 Well, you know, actually, some of us have called around.
00:34:16.440 Untrue.
00:34:17.720 So why are they reporting that?
00:34:19.340 Well, of course, like so much that you read and see on television or on the internet,
00:34:26.720 it is the product of a propaganda campaign designed to change the course of events on
00:34:33.600 the ground.
00:34:34.620 A propaganda campaign designed to convince Donald Trump that he has to restart major
00:34:41.120 combat operations against Iran because they're trying to kill him personally.
00:34:45.240 And so they tell him, as they have been for more than a year, ever since the butler shooting
00:34:48.920 Ron did it. You need to get in a separate aircraft. You need to be moved on the tarmac
00:34:53.920 inside a drink cart because they're going to assassinate you at any second.
00:34:58.020 And why are they telling Trump that? Who apparently believes it. It's not true,
00:35:01.580 by the way. That is a lie. They're telling him that because they think that if they can make
00:35:07.440 it personal, that Trump will have a stake, an emotional stake in continuing this war against
00:35:12.680 Iran, which the United States to restate cannot win. How do we know we can't win it? Because we
00:35:16.860 haven't been able to open the Strait of Hormuz, despite having a fleet of vessels that can't even
00:35:23.300 approach the Iranian coast. So rather than pausing and ask, why are we spending $1.5 trillion a year
00:35:29.940 on a defense budget or now a war budget that is unable to beat what we were told is a second rate
00:35:35.760 or third rate military, a third world country run by primitives who murder gays by throwing
00:35:39.820 them off the roof? And we can't even open a piece of water so 20% of the world's energy can flow
00:35:44.140 through? How's our military doing? Shut up. Not one moment of reflection or self-awareness even.
00:35:53.280 Not one moment of asking the obvious questions about our own failures,
00:35:57.440 failures that the rest of us paid for, have gone into debt for. One of the reasons you can't buy
00:36:02.760 a cheap burrito unless Mark Levin makes one for you, and we hope he will. We hope he has that
00:36:09.660 can-do attitude that gets him in your kitchen, rolling you a burrito for free. But in the event
00:36:14.760 he doesn't do that, it's going to cost you more than it used to to buy a burrito. Why?
00:36:18.460 Because the country's too in debt. Why? Well, the main driver of debt, foreign wars. That's a fact.
00:36:24.800 The main driver of debt, foreign wars, our discretionary budget, it all goes to war.
00:36:28.780 Wars we don't win. Wars that are being waged, not because the public wants them, but because
00:36:33.340 Mark Levin is calling for them on behalf of the interests of a foreign country. That's a fact.
00:36:38.800 And to continue that, they're now laying this lie,
00:36:41.840 this head trip on the president.
00:36:42.980 Oh, they're trying to assassinate you in the tarmac.
00:36:44.540 Better get in the drink cart and sneak on to another aircraft.
00:36:48.320 And a lot of Americans are just like believing it
00:36:50.360 because they're telling him that.
00:36:51.520 Oh, Mark Levin, you're assassinating the president.
00:36:53.080 Okay, killed thousands of Americans.
00:36:54.640 Okay.
00:36:56.560 You must've missed that part
00:36:57.680 where they were sending opioids into Appalachia.
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00:41:46.820 So there's no one we can think of
00:41:48.860 who's got a clearer handle on this
00:41:51.060 or a more longitudinal view gained over many years
00:41:53.500 beginning at the Treasury Department on this question
00:41:55.680 than Catherine Austin Fitz.
00:41:57.920 And she joins us now to explain why burritos are 20 bucks.
00:42:02.200 Catherine Austin Fitz.
00:42:03.980 Catherine Austin Fitz, thank you so much for doing this.
00:42:06.940 I have a lot of questions.
00:42:07.960 I'll keep them short.
00:42:08.740 Are we experiencing inflation in the United States, do you believe?
00:42:13.880 Yes, we are experiencing inflation, and there is a reasonable chance that the inflation,
00:42:20.740 at least the increase in household goods, is going to get much, much worse.
00:42:24.940 Why?
00:42:27.040 So it is because we've been going through a restructuring of the economy for many decades.
00:42:33.320 This has been building for many decades.
00:42:36.060 One, we start off with a model where we have a debt-based currency, and that debt-basing forces huge expenses that you don't have to have.
00:42:46.960 That's number one.
00:42:48.160 But number two, we've run our fiscal economy in ways that I would describe as a financial coup d'etat.
00:42:55.300 and as we've we've pulled resources out of the economy we have consolidated ownership and control
00:43:04.140 in a way that uh forces expenses or it lowers the income for the general population and it
00:43:10.980 raises their expenses and this has been a intentional consolidation of ownership and
00:43:17.720 control and now you're seeing the results that result in people being squeezed in a variety of
00:43:24.820 ways. So I'm describing a change in the financial model, the centralization of power and economic
00:43:32.700 control. And it involves many different things throughout the economy. But the important thing
00:43:37.980 to understand is it was a plan, it's intentional. And if you look at where we are, it's going to
00:43:43.700 take many, many things to change it. Because it comes with tremendous and explosive changes in
00:43:53.200 technology, which can be used to create great prosperity, but can also be used to consolidate
00:43:59.120 control in a way that benefit the few and destroy the many. So as I hear your big picture description
00:44:05.920 of this transition through which we're moving, the first thought that comes to mind is, boy,
00:44:12.280 that sounds a little bit like what happened after the Soviet Union collapsed in the summer of 1991,
00:44:18.080 and all of a sudden Russians woke up 10 years later and all state industries were owned by
00:44:22.060 a small group of people. That's kind of what it sounds like.
00:44:27.400 Well, if you generally, I mean, I'm grossly oversimplifying, but if you look at the people
00:44:31.740 who did what's called the Rape of Russia, it's a similar group. And I'll give you a story. I was in
00:44:38.740 the city of London making a presentation in 2001, and I've been asked to speak about what I call
00:44:44.860 piratization in the United States, the consolidation of the real estate and housing
00:44:50.020 market so i'd been the assistant secretary of housing and i gave the presentation and two
00:44:55.140 presentations followed one by ann williamson who had been covering russia for the wall street
00:45:01.180 journal during the rape of russia and she got up and gave a presentation and then john laughlin
00:45:06.340 who's a remarkable british commentator now in paris stood up and did the same on what had
00:45:13.120 happened in eastern europe and the three of us went into shock as did many of the investors in
00:45:18.720 the room because we realized it was the same firms, the same law firms, the same intelligence
00:45:24.940 agencies. And what they were doing in Eastern Europe and in Russia and in the United States
00:45:31.080 was a very similar game. We have a big presentation called Plunder. But they were
00:45:36.720 basically going in and plundering. And it was one plan. It wasn't three different plans or three
00:45:43.060 different groups. It was a process of consolidation of the economies in all three places.
00:45:51.060 And basically a privatization of the nation's resources.
00:45:55.900 Well, here's the thing. Privatization, Tucker, is when I transfer an asset or involve
00:46:02.520 corporations in a service at a market price. Piratization is when I transfer an asset to
00:46:10.700 a private party at 10 cents on the dollar. Yes. So at a below market price. And what we've been
00:46:16.360 watching by and large around the world is piratization, not privatization or plunder.
00:46:22.960 They're alluding. And thank you for that distinction because it seems important.
00:46:27.540 So it's not simply a matter. So I think many of us on the right were sold on the idea that
00:46:32.780 government is inefficient, which is an easy case to make because it's true. And in order to make
00:46:38.620 the system the government more efficient we need to privatize things and the public benefits and
00:46:45.340 the market rules apply and so it's fair and transparent it just works better that that is
00:46:51.220 the case i think that free market economists made throughout the 80s and 90s so it's so funny i wrote
00:46:57.560 i wrote a piece about um uh this sort of piratization at the time and it later became
00:47:05.320 an online book i wrote called dylan reed in the aristocracy of stock profits and when i first
00:47:10.100 sent it to the i was working with this firm in london um the head of research just started
00:47:16.220 laughing and he said i've always believed that government is inefficient and the solution is to
00:47:21.700 bring in more private you know more private capacity needs that i'm reading this and what i
00:47:27.380 realize is you know what is going on and some private guys are just using the government to
00:47:33.580 pay themselves huge and hideous profits above market in a way that's destroying markets.
00:47:40.120 So we have these public-private partnerships that involve huge corruption, huge grift,
00:47:46.060 and aren't productive at all.
00:47:47.720 But the spin they use is what you just described.
00:47:51.440 Boy, it's a very effective argument.
00:47:53.520 It certainly fooled me.
00:47:55.760 It definitely fooled me.
00:47:57.680 So how does that trend that you just described cause inflation?
00:48:01.980 so so for example and and there are thousands of different examples but one of the things that
00:48:09.960 drive prices up is when you have consolidation into monopolies or duopolies and so if the
00:48:15.840 department of justice is simply not enforcing um antitrust you're going to get consolidation
00:48:23.060 and monopoly pricing um the best example of course is the bailouts so according to the
00:48:28.060 Levy Institute, there were $29 trillion on the bailouts. And what did we see? We saw a group of
00:48:35.260 financial institutions engage in massive mortgage fraud and financial fraud. As a result, we had
00:48:41.420 $29 trillion of bailings, which does run up the debt quite a certain amount. And then what
00:48:49.100 happens? They get the benefit of more access to the federal credit, all sorts of special
00:48:54.820 dispensations. And coming out of the financial crisis, they have a major, much bigger market
00:49:01.180 share, right? And so not only did they get $29 trillion of bailouts, but suddenly they shifted
00:49:09.200 their market share up dramatically in a way that gives them monopoly pricing power. Okay. And so,
00:49:16.380 you know, and that was combined, for example, in the financial area with changing the laws in
00:49:21.560 79 80 to allow essentially usury so so for example when i as i told you i i went from a process of
00:49:33.540 being a multi-millionaire to having a very rich cash flow every month to having to live on two
00:49:37.360 thousand dollars a month and run my and bring down my companies and run my companies with that
00:49:42.400 on the two thousand dollars and and when things are really desperate i used to always get a credit
00:49:47.820 card in the mail from J.P. Morgan Chase for $300 with a $50 sign-up fee and then 30% interest rate.
00:49:58.360 And it was, you're in the corner, you know, according to the Department of Justice,
00:50:02.860 you have to be in Washington in two days, and suddenly you magically get this credit card,
00:50:07.680 which will finance your trip for 50% interest rates when you combine in the fee.
00:50:12.400 So this is when you were being assailed, prosecuted by the Department of Justice
00:50:17.120 after you left government yourself?
00:50:18.740 Yeah, so I had a company, Hamilton Securities Group,
00:50:22.140 which was working as the lead financial advisor
00:50:24.380 to the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
00:50:27.400 And we were essentially responsible
00:50:30.040 for making sure portfolio strategy was done properly
00:50:33.540 as well as doing loan sales.
00:50:35.380 And we were essentially stopping money
00:50:38.100 from disappearing out of the back door of HUD.
00:50:41.460 And so to get rid of us, we were targeted in this process.
00:50:45.200 And interestingly enough, after they did get rid of us and the public officials we were working with, suddenly massive amounts of money started disappearing from the HUD financial systems.
00:50:58.600 And, you know, it's typical in government.
00:51:01.020 You've got to get the honest people out if you're going to grift in a major, major way.
00:51:05.040 And that's what happened anyway.
00:51:06.780 But we had 18 audits and investigations, 12 tracks of litigation, a smear campaign and physical harassment.
00:51:13.940 And the goal, of course, was to catch us doing something, was to prove that we had done something wrong.
00:51:22.020 And it got very, it went on for a long time because they could never prove anything.
00:51:27.540 And they tried to falsify documentation.
00:51:30.080 We caught them, you know, and then it turned into a very long process.
00:51:35.260 So, and ultimately we won the big litigation.
00:51:37.740 So we were able to win.
00:51:39.160 And one of the reasons I refused to settle and insisted on going to, you know, because they try and keep you out of court.
00:51:44.840 I couldn't get into court.
00:51:47.060 It really started in 95.
00:51:48.760 I couldn't get into court on the main case until 2004.
00:51:54.220 So, you know, so they try and keep you out of court because, of course, they have no evidence of any wrongdoing.
00:51:59.440 And it's very funny, Tucker.
00:52:00.580 I wish I had a video of it on the three times they canceled on the eve of trial.
00:52:06.300 So my lawyers were the most overprepared people in the world.
00:52:08.980 they were being paid by the insurance company and so we got to the final uh the first day of the
00:52:14.840 final trial and i wouldn't settle and i kept you know insisting and they constantly i was poisoned
00:52:20.540 many times when i wouldn't settle because they wanted to sort of exhaust me anyway i come in on
00:52:25.900 on the last trial on the first day and and essentially the other side has nothing they
00:52:32.820 have absolutely nothing and all the lawyers on the other side are fighting it's the whistleblower
00:52:37.900 attorney and the Department of Justice attorney and the HUD attorney. They're all fighting.
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00:55:51.540 and you're trying to run everything,
00:55:53.340 your life and business on $2,000 a month,
00:55:55.520 you're getting credit card offers from JPMorgan Chase.
00:55:59.820 And that's kind of a metaphor
00:56:01.560 for how the entire economy works, right?
00:56:05.880 It's people profiting off desperation.
00:56:10.040 So I live in, one of the first things I did
00:56:13.480 is I sold my big mansion in Washington
00:56:15.680 and bought a country home in Hickory Valley, Tennessee.
00:56:19.260 And I moved to Hickory Valley, Tennessee.
00:56:20.820 I have cousins who are cotton farmers in Hickory Valley, Tennessee.
00:56:24.280 And I moved to Hickory Valley, Tennessee, because I knew that the cost of living was much, much lower.
00:56:30.140 And so the county I live in in Tennessee has a per capita income of $24,000 a year.
00:56:38.080 Yeah, very, very low income.
00:56:40.600 And one of the things, as soon as I moved there, what I realized is we were targeted for predatory lending by all the big banks and lenders.
00:56:50.380 And so one of the ways I used to entertain myself, you know, I was trained on Wall Street
00:56:54.140 and I was trained by the top, some of the best lawyers on Wall Street, how to negotiate.
00:56:59.180 It was really fun for me because I would pick up the phone and they would just assume I
00:57:03.860 was another person with $24,000 a year income, which, you know, in $2,000 a month that was.
00:57:11.040 And so I would start to ask them about their offers and negotiate with them.
00:57:16.240 And I learned all their tricks.
00:57:17.420 and what was amazing to me is is the people in my county were targeted by some of the smartest
00:57:23.660 legal stratagems i've ever dealt with in my life you know but it was it was war it was a financial
00:57:30.860 onslaught of trying to trick people into debt of course debt is one of the greatest ways you can
00:57:36.160 destroy a family's finances addiction and debt and if you look at the targeting of american
00:57:42.120 communities during that period, they were specifically targeted with both addiction
00:57:47.820 and debt. And it was an onslaught. And I got to learn a lot about it living there.
00:57:53.560 What do you think the purpose was? Why would any American want to destroy an American community and
00:57:59.600 kill people and enslave them with debt?
00:58:01.980 so if i want to change the economy and i want to change it from a democratic republic
00:58:12.060 to a um essentially an oligarchy then what i need to do is i need to um consolidate wealth
00:58:23.700 and i need to reduce the general population to a group of people who are much easier to control so
00:58:30.260 Let me go back. In 1995, there was an effort made by the people who I would describe as leading the financial system to try and put the country on a financially sound basis. And it failed and ended up at the end of 1995 in a three-week shutdown of the government. I don't know if you remember that.
00:58:49.740 It was during the Clinton administration. And it was described to me by the president of the
00:58:56.500 largest pension fund in the country several years later. He said, you don't understand,
00:59:00.900 they've given up. They've given up on the country and they're moving all the money out starting in
00:59:04.980 the fall. And that was when the $21 trillion started to go missing, compounded by the $29
00:59:11.740 trillion that went out on the bailouts. I think what happened was when they failed to achieve a
00:59:18.140 real fiscal, a fiscally responsible approach to the federal balance sheet that they decided to
00:59:26.820 do two things. One, they decided to do a financial coup in a process where instead of the bankers
00:59:35.300 just running monetary policy, they could then run fiscal policy. And I think the second thing
00:59:41.200 they decided to do is if you can't balance the budget with financial responsibility, you can
00:59:46.960 balance the budget by lowering life expectancy so if you if you can't fund the pension and
00:59:54.700 retirement system with enough money to meet your obligations you can meet your obligations by
01:00:01.560 lowering life expectancy and i think a conscious decision was made to do that that literally right
01:00:09.060 after the budget deal sort of busted, two decisions were made. One was to approve OxyContin
01:00:17.640 and open the pill mills. The second was all sorts of policies that permitted HUD and other mortgage
01:00:25.940 predatory lending. And that happened right as they also made the decision to do the private prisons
01:00:32.520 and they kept flooding the neighborhoods with drugs. And if you look at the combination of
01:00:37.220 the pill mills, the predatory lending, narcotics trafficking coming in. Again, this is all covered
01:00:42.960 in my online book. You know, it dramatically started to steadily reduce life expectancy,
01:00:49.680 particularly in the lower income groups. And I knew it was coming. One of the reasons I kept
01:00:55.400 talking with everybody about the missing money is I knew that it would hit the middle income groups.
01:01:00.580 It was just a matter of time. And I remember I always tell the story of talking to Dr. Mark
01:01:06.520 Skidmore, who had worked with me on the missing money. We were sitting, I was sitting in a car
01:01:11.520 in Bolivar, Tennessee. I was doing errands. And he kept saying to me, why do you keep bringing up
01:01:16.900 all the money that's going missing from the federal government? Why don't you give up on this?
01:01:21.700 And I said, don't you understand, Mark, if we don't do something about this,
01:01:25.660 they're going to take radical steps of lowering life expectancy. And that was in 2018. And of
01:01:31.700 course, you know, COVID hit in 2020. And what did we get? We got a whole series of actions that
01:01:38.400 continued to lower life expectancy, but this time in the middle and upper middle-class groups.
01:01:46.500 It's so obvious to me that reducing population, either through shortening their lives or
01:01:52.360 preventing them from being born in the first place, I mean, that's official U.S. policy,
01:01:55.620 of course right abortion euthanasia drugs um but i i've always sort of wondered why
01:02:03.680 and and do you think it's because that's the only way to get the country solvent
01:02:09.240 so i think it's a combination of things first of all you have um again we have this explosive
01:02:16.720 new technology and i think you have a lot of people in the leadership who believe first of
01:02:21.800 It's very difficult to manage people, particularly if they get their hands on this technology.
01:02:26.480 But they also believe they're going to live for a long, long time.
01:02:31.060 You know, Jared Kushner, when he left the first Trump administration, did a podcast and said, I'm the first generation to live forever, the last generation to, you know, not live forever.
01:02:41.640 Sean Parker, one of the co-founders of Facebook, said, I'm a billionaire, so I'm going to live to 145.
01:02:47.500 If the oligarchs are going to live to 145, one of the things they know is not everybody can do that
01:02:53.480 or you're going to have an environmental problem, right?
01:02:56.820 Right.
01:02:57.600 So part of it is that.
01:02:59.360 But I also think with robotics and automation, they think they don't need a lot of people.
01:03:04.420 A lot of people are hard to manage.
01:03:06.600 Now, if you look at what they're doing to build a control grid,
01:03:12.300 Clearly, they think if they can accomplish that, it's going to make it much easier to manage a lot of people.
01:03:19.520 But frankly, they don't necessarily want them around.
01:03:22.540 They don't need them.
01:03:24.160 And so I do believe that many of them feel they would be much better off with much lower populations.
01:03:31.700 I think that's obviously true.
01:03:33.860 May I ask, though, about what role a global war would play in that?
01:03:38.360 So, like, on the one hand, obviously, war reduces population.
01:03:41.320 And if you wanted to clear the Ukrainians out of Ukraine, leaving only the resources and Indian immigrants, you would do what they are doing.
01:03:49.620 I get it.
01:03:50.740 But once you start pushing up against the possibility of a nuclear exchange, a total war, a global war, then don't you, and which they are doing, knowingly, and I don't know if it's reckless or intentional or what exactly it is, but they know that we're moving toward global war and they're not slowing down.
01:04:07.020 The Trump administration and all the people who support it.
01:04:10.600 Right.
01:04:10.700 Don't you kind of risk your own plans by doing that? That seems very much like a dice roll.
01:04:18.860 So there are a couple of theories. I think there's some people who, you know, do want to bring on Armageddon. That's a cultural and religious cross-section of some of the people involved.
01:04:31.260 But the other thing is, if you've been responsible for the dollar system and you know how dangerous an improper or a difficult unraveling of the dollar system could be for most of the countries around the world,
01:04:50.840 You know how an unraveling could kill and hurt and maim.
01:04:57.960 Then you will go to extreme lengths and kill many, many people to avoid that.
01:05:04.320 And part of it is, if you're used to having power, you do not want to convert to a meritocracy.
01:05:09.840 I mean, the way to solve, you know, I told you, I just told you the thing you just did on How to Save America, I think it's one of the best things you've ever done.
01:05:19.440 And if, in theory, we all woke up tomorrow and followed your 10 principles of, you know, in our own lives, in our own family, in our own community, we could see an unbelievably explosive wealth creation.
01:05:33.780 I mean, one of the things I want to stress is tyranny is very, very wasteful.
01:05:38.000 And the potential for wealth explosion, if we could somehow, you know, behave like we were an advanced civilization, is an extraordinary opportunity.
01:05:45.900 But it's going to result in a meritocracy.
01:05:49.440 And if you look at the people running things, they have no interest in competing in a meritocracy because they're going to lose, right?
01:05:57.960 Yeah.
01:05:58.160 And the nature of their situation is, you know, when people in their situation lose, they get killed and their families get killed.
01:06:06.360 So, you know, they are at the point where they would do control.
01:06:10.120 I remember one group telling me about a group during the 80s when Iran-Contra was really getting out of hand, talking about they had started to make plans about dropping a suit, you know, exploding a suitcase nuke in the middle of Chicago, you know, just to distract.
01:06:27.460 Remember, one of the goals of war is to control the domestic population. And we are now approaching a time where whether whether you get that you have a war, you get the control grid, controlling the domestic population is getting is going to be very difficult.
01:06:47.540 So won't won't that control grid make it easier?
01:06:53.500 yeah if they can get it if they can put it into place so i mean let's look at what they're hoping
01:07:02.000 to do what they're hoping to do first of all is to use stable coins and digital tokens to bring
01:07:10.160 four billion people around the world and and this is the retail market into the treasury market and
01:07:16.740 into the U.S. stock and bond market and literally take the U.S. market share, for example, in the
01:07:24.280 stock market up from 70 percent to 90 percent of the global stock market. So they're hoping to
01:07:31.240 essentially tender for all the citizens in the world and bring them into our financial system.
01:07:38.200 You know, what they've said is we're going to do 24-7 trading on the global stock markets
01:07:43.560 using digital tokens and we're going to offer 20 times margin you know everybody right now is really
01:07:49.200 worried about we're in a bubble if you look at the tools that are being amassed to bubble using
01:07:55.220 crypto i mean arguably if they succeed and i'm not saying that they will but if they do it'll
01:08:01.600 be the biggest bubble i've ever seen and i've lived through a lot of bubbles so um you know
01:08:07.400 you bring another 4 billion people into the U.S. currency, the U.S. bond market, the U.S. stock
01:08:13.740 market, you know, and you do it with 24-7 trading with 20 times margin, it's going to be extraordinary
01:08:21.020 because those are networks you can also pump out more debt on, right? So now what's interesting is
01:08:27.940 the Clarity Act, it appears, is not going to pass this year, which was one of the sort of legal
01:08:34.200 infrastructures they wanted to do this so i find the sort of the potential crash and burn this fall
01:08:41.580 of the clarity act to be quite remarkable okay so so they think through these mechanisms they
01:08:48.240 have tools that can consider this wave and this bubble going forward now if you look at what they
01:08:56.660 want to do, what they want to do is put on your currency, your bank deposits, and your stocks and
01:09:04.740 bonds, what I call a manual, an automatic third lock. Do you know what a third lock is? No.
01:09:11.340 Okay. Let me describe this. If you and I do a transaction and I want to buy a Tucker Carlson
01:09:18.260 hat and you want to sell it to me, I give you cash, I get the hat. That's a two lock transaction.
01:09:24.420 You have a lock. I have a lock. If one of us says no, it can't happen. Okay. Let's say we have
01:09:31.440 money in the bank and I want to buy the hat. I'm going to transfer money. I'll do an ACH to you
01:09:37.600 for the cost of the hat. The bank has rules from the treasury department. It has sanctions. It has
01:09:43.240 to know your customer rules. It has other regulations and it has the ability to intercede
01:09:48.400 and stop the transaction for those reasons okay and and that's a sort of what i call a manual
01:09:55.140 third lock so they the bank gets a third lock implementing the government regulations um and
01:10:01.440 so if you look at what happened to the truckers in canada they had all not all but most of the
01:10:08.660 banks exercised that manual third lock under the direction of the government what the government
01:10:14.140 wants to do and and what the treasury and the central banks want is they want an automatic
01:10:19.500 third lock so you don't have to go through the bank and not only can you apply sanctions and
01:10:25.520 know your customer and money laundering laws you can apply a full-blown social credit system
01:10:30.880 right so i can make up a hugely complex rule system for tucker and his kids and his grandkids
01:10:40.520 I can customize it for each one of you
01:10:44.060 and I can give you incentives
01:10:46.080 and I can give you rules
01:10:47.580 and unless you do exactly what I say
01:10:50.580 I can turn off your money
01:10:52.340 or I can apply negative interest rates to your money
01:10:56.160 or positive interest rates
01:10:57.700 I can raise your taxes
01:10:59.620 without anybody having any say about it
01:11:01.760 so let me give you an example
01:11:02.980 go back to the pandemic
01:11:04.140 if I say you're locked down
01:11:07.020 and you and your family can't leave your house
01:11:08.980 your money won't work outside your house if I have an all-digital system with an automatic
01:11:14.920 third lock. And let's say I freeze your bank account. You can't go to your bank and talk to
01:11:20.560 them. It's above their head. They won't be implementing it. That's what the data centers
01:11:27.720 are for. That's what the AI is for, at least in North America. The goal of that, because if you
01:11:35.060 look at spatial control it involves uh tremendous data because of the videos and the cameras and
01:11:42.960 you've got lots of video footage but then you can imagine financial transactions all over the world
01:11:47.740 if they're going to bring four billion customers from around the world into the dollar markets or
01:11:52.880 the our stock market that's a huge amount of data for spatial and financial control
01:11:58.220 and and but with ai what is ai great at ai is fabulous at processing enormous amounts of
01:12:04.600 mathematical information which is most of the information the data we're talking about and so
01:12:11.140 if they can put a manual third lock in a social credit system for every individual
01:12:15.440 and and and essentially automate the whole process with ai then then they have the ability in fact
01:12:23.440 to control many many people now here's the question why would four billion people want to
01:12:30.400 come into that system it's very interesting the secretary of the treasury during the as i think
01:12:36.120 about a month or two ago said uh you know they'd seized a billion dollar of iranian wallets and he
01:12:42.520 was bragging about how easy it was to do it and i thought well you know i'm not sure if you're
01:12:47.200 going to go out and try and persuade four billion people to come into our markets that you really
01:12:52.600 want to have them realize that we can seize their wallets with that kind of speed and ease
01:12:59.940 No, that would be a disincentive to participation.
01:13:02.680 There's no doubt about it.
01:13:04.080 I think so.
01:13:06.120 May I ask you, just since we're on markets
01:13:08.720 and I don't want to get sidetracked,
01:13:10.400 but I think you might be able to answer this.
01:13:12.800 I'm baffled by the behavior of various commodities markets.
01:13:18.240 Since this war began,
01:13:20.060 they've moved in the opposite direction
01:13:22.160 from what you would expect if supply and demand was real.
01:13:24.260 So let's just start with oil prices.
01:13:26.700 Brent crude, we'll use that as a measure.
01:13:28.960 they've not gone straight up
01:13:32.140 and they've kind of gone up and down,
01:13:33.440 but not very up and in some cases down.
01:13:36.780 And I think we can say part of that
01:13:38.740 is because China decided to stop its energy imports,
01:13:42.700 which is bizarre behavior.
01:13:44.660 And then gold has also, I mean,
01:13:48.180 since this spring has dropped $1,000 an ounce
01:13:50.840 at exactly the moment when the US dollar
01:13:53.060 is clearly headed to a much weaker position.
01:13:56.480 So that doesn't make any sense at all.
01:13:58.120 is it possible no that makes a that makes a lot it does tell me how so yeah so let's look at oil
01:14:04.280 first so the chinese have done a remarkable job of just cutting their imports in half
01:14:09.080 and um to me there's not a lot of reliable information about we know they've built a lot
01:14:15.980 of nuclear capacity and renewable capacity they say the last time i looked they say they're not
01:14:22.460 using their oil reserves which are significant is my understanding but um you know it's hard to
01:14:28.940 believe they haven't the japanese had a fair amount of oil reserves they've run down their reserves
01:14:33.700 my understanding is our reserves are now below the amount you know that threatens the whole
01:14:40.000 infrastructure of the of the strategic reserve which is frightening but we've run our reserves
01:14:45.660 down tremendously so so part of what's been happening in the oil market is i suspect that the
01:14:52.460 the shorting and the and the things they do to manage the price if manage the price down but
01:14:57.300 that's combined with enormous relief of pressure on the market because of what the chinese did
01:15:03.680 and because of ours and the japanese strategic reserve now um but if you look at the u.s strategy
01:15:09.700 the u.s strategy is designed to replace the petrodollar with what some people call the
01:15:15.580 petrogas dollar and between bottlenecking the trade routes and and sabotaging energy capacity
01:15:23.200 all over the world they're trying to build a much bigger market share for u.s lng remember we're a
01:15:30.420 net exporter now and if you look at how much lng for example we're selling into asia you know
01:15:36.560 our our oil and gas industry is making a lot of money now the question is now that the war is
01:15:44.420 continuing and we don't have the japanese and u.s reserves to run down a lot there's a real
01:15:50.900 expectation that the price could continue to go higher now here's the other thing tucker when you
01:15:57.240 shut down when you do what's been done to the global economy since um since february you create
01:16:05.140 a lot of inflation deflation because you you know you are shutting down i call this covid 2.0
01:16:11.560 you're wiping out a lot of little guys and again it consolidates into the big guys but but this is
01:16:18.680 very depressing for the global economy right and that's deflationary now let me let me talk about
01:16:25.080 gold you know ever since i started covering gold in say 2000 and on whenever there's a war kind of
01:16:33.600 situation you see gold drop it's very typical and one of the reasons is people get short and they
01:16:40.680 have to sell their gold but the other is people want liquidity so they you know they go into
01:16:46.080 treasuries they go into the short-term bond market even if the dollar is weak so so they're
01:16:52.300 looking to go to cash so to speak and and and you'll see them leave gold so it doesn't surprise
01:16:58.940 me that probably a lot of people in the gulf area and globally needed to sell gold but gold's in a
01:17:05.540 long-term bull market. And this is just, you know, this is the normal volatility of gold in these
01:17:11.480 kinds of situations. May I ask, why would China slash its oil imports and import as much gold as
01:17:18.520 it has, which is a lot? Why is China importing gold and not buying oil? That is an excellent
01:17:22.820 question. And I don't know why. I suspect they think they have the nuclear and renewable and
01:17:33.280 other capacity to do that for some period of time um i mean clearly venezuela you know cut them
01:17:41.380 and clearly the situation has cut them um but i think that's a big question mark and one of the
01:17:48.560 questions one of the reasons might be you know they understood that it was very important to
01:17:54.680 to you know let that steve out they're helping the global economy tremendously
01:18:00.200 if if the price was running up you know where where many people thought it would go the pain
01:18:07.620 in the global economy would be absolutely enormous yeah i mean you could easily see seven dollar
01:18:13.320 a gallon gasoline in the u.s and but it i guess what i'm saying is it seems like
01:18:20.860 the chinese government has done the trump administration a huge favor by keeping things
01:18:28.300 kind of status quo when they wouldn't normally be. Yes, that is absolutely correct. And if you
01:18:35.600 look at who's purchasing what in Asia, the U.S. is clearly making a lot of money exporting LNG to
01:18:45.000 Asia. So, you know, this is, I mean, this has been very, very good for the U.S. oil and gas
01:18:54.140 industry. So my last question has to do with attitudes, and I'm confused by this, and you
01:19:01.060 may have an answer. So consumer prices have risen. Inflation is real. It's the product of long-term
01:19:08.640 changes, the ones you just described, but it's also the product of this war of choice begun at
01:19:12.720 the end of February. That's all. It's obvious. Anybody can understand it without an economics
01:19:17.780 degree prices of food have gone up that's detectable to everybody because everybody eats
01:19:25.200 somebody notes this the other day and says gee whiz you know twenty dollar burritos are a lot
01:19:31.700 and immediately the same people many of them who advocated for this war of choice
01:19:36.960 attack anyone who complains about rising food prices and what i see there is like pure contempt
01:19:45.880 if not hatred for ordinary people.
01:19:48.400 Like what else could explain that kind of response?
01:19:51.420 But I also see a kind of crazy recklessness
01:19:53.900 because normally in a functioning society
01:19:57.060 with normal motives,
01:19:59.920 the people in charge, the rich people,
01:20:02.440 don't make fun of the poor people
01:20:03.840 for overpaying for food because that's dangerous.
01:20:06.280 Like they could rise up and bite you
01:20:07.600 if you keep mocking them.
01:20:09.380 The let them eat cake thing
01:20:10.840 doesn't work as a long-term strategy.
01:20:12.900 Why are they doing that?
01:20:13.880 why are they showing contempt for the population so i think they think the best defense is a good
01:20:19.640 offense and and they're attacking people for lazy being lazy or not working and they describe how
01:20:27.320 they made it to where they are and right you know it it's simply um it's simply what psychopaths do
01:20:37.260 yes i mean here's the thing and and i'll just be blunt one of the one of the things uh you know we
01:20:45.400 had many people on our network all excited about the new administration and they they participated
01:20:50.500 in maha groups and worked very hard to do everything they could to get washington to
01:20:56.360 change its policies and one of the great things about watching what has happened because it's in
01:21:02.180 in most respects it's completely gone the other way is it's proved beyond a shadow of a doubt
01:21:07.720 that there is a bipartisan commitment to depopulation it's extraordinary yeah um we had
01:21:14.360 a wonderful uh uh scientist on the other day who uh has been very instrumental in trying to stop
01:21:22.500 the liability shield for pesticides and she got to the end of the show and you could see she was
01:21:28.220 frustrated she's very careful scientist very thorough and she said um so she she really
01:21:34.600 wanted to get her point across she said you have to understand that if this liability shield
01:21:39.980 happens and they do what they say they're going to do if they get it i consider that as a scientist
01:21:46.380 to be an extinction level event given the impact on female fertility you know it was it was a
01:21:55.280 showstopper and so if you look at the policies coming through the sausage factory in Washington
01:22:02.660 these are these are intentional policies to depopulate an enormous effort has been made
01:22:09.300 for almost my entire lifetime to come up with any strategy that can obfuscate or stop people
01:22:16.680 from seeing the obvious and something marvelous is happening Tucker and what is marvelous and
01:22:22.580 It's the first time in my lifetime I've seen it that people are finally saying, oh, you know, they really do.
01:22:31.300 They really are trying to kill us.
01:22:34.060 And that's very freeing because once you know it, you know to get as far away from them as possible and protect yourself.
01:22:41.860 and the thing that's very healthy about it and one of the reasons I loved your
01:22:46.460 you know 10 principles to save America real solutions come when we let go when we let go
01:22:55.340 of hoping that there's some way we can go into that machinery and turn it around it's not going
01:23:00.520 to work so we need to leave we need to get away from the diseased animal and go do things that
01:23:07.460 can work and if enough of us do that what is possible is absolutely fantastic the little
01:23:13.460 secret here is if you look at that machinery it is so destructive of wealth at the state and local
01:23:20.600 level that if we could begin to reverse it even five percent or ten percent you don't need everybody
01:23:27.140 the possibilities are enormous particularly with the blessing of new technology so it doesn't have
01:23:34.700 to it doesn't have to go bad here it can be transformative but what it requires is we've
01:23:41.180 got to stop hoping you know that the people who would you know attack you for a 20 burrito
01:23:48.720 i mean seriously can anybody take ben shapiro seriously ever again no so we need to laugh
01:23:56.520 we need to laugh we need to just laugh and turn it off right it's a joke he's not serious
01:24:03.960 he's not relevant
01:24:05.860 that is the most
01:24:08.100 that's the most hopeful thing I've heard in a long time
01:24:10.400 Catherine Austin Fitz
01:24:11.580 no I think you have obviously
01:24:14.240 deep knowledge but also a beautiful perspective
01:24:15.980 so thank you very much for sharing it
01:24:17.980 thank you Tucker you have a great day
01:24:20.120 you too thank you